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November 8, 2020 24 mins

This episode is about the importance of being able to style Kids hair when building a clientele.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, welcome to blue leaf connections, where we talk
all things, cosmetology, barber,and aesthetics tonight.
Pretty much Blueleaf connectionsis where we bridge the gap
between the student and thelicensed professional.
So tonight I am actually doing alive podcast.
this is the second live podcast.
The, my guest tonight isLaffarah Shaw.

(00:26):
I just wanted to talk toLaffarah about one of her
niches, one of the things thatshe really loves to do, and
while we're talking about it,we're going to relate it pretty
much to the student becauseBlueleaf connections is about
bridging the gap between thestudent and the licensed

(00:47):
professional.
Then at towards the end of thepodcast.
If you guys have any questions,we will be answering questions.
Um, any comments just, um, chimein.
So Laffarah, I've been workingwith you for awhile and you have
a passion for kids, AKA littlepeople.

(01:09):
How do you connect so well withkids?
Um,

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I connect well with kids because I have a, a very
high tolerance for them.
Um, in order to work with kids,you do have to have a very high
tolerance for them because theylike to move.
They're thirsty.
They got to go to the bathroom.
They, um, they just, everythingin the world happens in that

(01:35):
chair.
So if you don't have a hightolerance for, what's going to
go down, when those kids sit inyour chair, I don't think you
should be a kid stylist, butbeing a kid stylists do not work
for all stylists, but it doeswork for me.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay.
What's what's the youngest ageof what's the youngest age you
styled.
And tell me a little bit abouthow she was, or he was

Speaker 2 (02:01):
what is the age the youngest you styled, I want to
say is two, but there arelimitations to styling.
The two year olds.
I can't style all two year oldsbecause not all two year old
sits still, but I have sowed asyoung as t wo sitting still.
And, u m, it wasn't the bestexperience, but it wasn't the

(02:25):
worst either.
And when I say best and worst, I, I don't mean that like in a
bad way, I just mean, u m, I hadto really know how to handle
that child while doing theirhair.
Because again, that child moveda little, that child cried a
little a nd that child, u h, youknow, did a lot of things, but

(02:46):
we got through it and I was goodwith it because, u h, I was able
to calm the child down by, y ouk now, giving them breaks as
needed or telling them how cutethey were g oing t o look when
it was done or you things likethat.
So you just g otta have a, you gotta know what you're doing when
dealing with these kids.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay.
So you just laid out 10 20 tipsabout dealing with kids.
Can you give just like aspecific golden nugget tip to a
new stylist or a student who hasa kid in their chair?

(03:25):
What's something that you'vedone.
That was a sure thing help thathelped get you through that
service that you can share.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Um, I sometimes keep candy on my station because kids
love candy.
So you keep candy on thestation.
You're going to offer the kidcandy if they're crying or
something to drink, or maybehave the parents that bring, um,
you know, their tablets orsomething like that.
Uh, it's a few different thingsyou can do to keep that child

(03:57):
under control as much as youcan.
But, um,

Speaker 1 (04:00):
So candy, is it lollipops?
Lollipops, lollipops.
Okay.
I'll keep that in mind.
I'll keep that in mind.
What, um, when you do kids overthe past year, uh, years, I've
noticed that once you get thekid, you kind of secure the mom

(04:23):
or the odds.
So where's your strategy andlike, okay, I'm going to start
doing kids.
And I know if I do kids, I'llget the mom, I'll get the aunt,
I'll get the family because youhave a lot of families.
Whereas do you know somestylists just only do the mom?
Like I do a lot of moms.
I don't per se do kids.
I like kids.
We love kids and beliefs align,but when it's someone better at

(04:46):
the salon who does kids, Igenerally pass them over to
someone who I know that has abackground with kids.
So has it helped you maintain orget the full family band doing
kids?
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah.
I do a lot of families.
Uh, I didn't really go in andtaking the child thinking, Oh,
I'm going to get thegrandmother, the mother, the
sister, brother.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
It ended up I that.
Okay.
What's one of the biggestchallenges that you've had when
doing a kid like to made youthink, maybe I don't know if I'm
gonna do kids anymore.
Has that ever happened?
Really?
Okay.
Um,

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Let me tell you a little story.
One time I had a child sit in mychair and it started out good,
but the child cried and criedand cried, and I did everything
I could to calm the child down,but, um, it, nothing worked for
the child.
So eventually to keep the childout of distress and to keep me,

(05:47):
uh, from the child, not likingme.
Um, that's important.
You want the, I want the kid tolike me.
I want the kid to be comfortablearound me.
Um, because when they know thatthey are comfortable and that
you care, they tend to do alittle bit better, but this
child, for some reason, just shewouldn't give.
So, uh, the parent had to end uptaking the child and, and I do

(06:11):
that child today.
She is older now.
She loves me and she cannotbelieve she did that to me, but
it's okay.
She was a child, she was a baby.
She was like two and it happens.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay.
So can you share with, I guessour audience and share what
maybe a student, one of yourbiggest highlights since you've
been a hairstylist?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Um, the biggest highlight,

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well, can I give some background on you before you
answer that question?
Okay.
So when I, I met L'Affaire whatthree different times, two
different times.
So I've known L'Affaire for awhile.
Lavera has, was in what?
Early childhood education foralmost 20 years, 15, 16 years.
So you have a background withdealing with kids.

(07:07):
So it's like you have apsychology going on knowing how
to really move when that kidmoves to the left, to the right,
knowing how to really pacifythat kid because 16 years being
in education, you know, somethings.
So with that being said, she wasin education for 16 years and
she has always had a gift and apassion of making people,

(07:29):
pretty, making kids pretty, um,doing hair, making them smile,
taking pictures, just loving onpeople and kids.
Cause she really loves the kidsI do.
So she's had a long, she's hadtwo long careers.
A lot of people only have onecareer.
She's had two long careers.
So the highlight and becoming astylist.

(07:52):
Can you share that?
Because you know, sometimespeople forget what the highlight
is.
They forget why they want it todo this.
And can you remind us or tell ussomething?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Um, I love, love, love working with kids.
And a lot of people don'tunderstand it just because of,
uh, I guess the patients youhave to have for them.
But, um, I love working withkids.
It, I like making them prettyand handsome boy or girl or
whatever.

(08:23):
Um, I like knowing that theytrust me, they love me.
They know that they're in goodhands when they're with me.
And at the end, I love the hugsand kisses that they give me.
I really do.
It makes me feel like, um, thatthey trust me.
And when you feel like someonetrusts you, it's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yes it is.
Because not only is the parenttrusting you with that child's
hair, they're trusting you withtheir child.
Right?
So that, that says, it says alot.
So I will say Laffarah isamazing with kids.
One of her niches is she doesthe kids and the family just

(09:04):
really falls and they want herto do their hair as well.
So she has a lot of families.
So speaking of families, Ithought we could make this
podcast a little bitinteresting.
We talked about it earlier.
We have kids.
Yeah.
You got a kid and we definitelyhave, can I got two kids, so
let's bring them in and see whatthey're going to say.
Why are we going along?

(09:26):
Um, Gary yell, you guys.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Hey, Hey, Hey.
Be at T and J BT and J.
That's sounds like a peanutbutter and jelly sandwich.
BT and Jay, can I get you guysto come in?
So this is like, it's really,really tight.
Wait, wait.
So let me get B and T to crawlunder the table.

(09:48):
This way, Jay, you come here,come here.
Can I get you guys to come in?
So we're going to get in real.
Hold on top right here.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Let me, let me come out and I'mletting you and Jane come down
this way.
Oh Jesus.
Okay.
Okay.

(10:08):
Here's one.
Oh, wait, wait, what are wedoing?
We're going to, um, we're goingto talk to y'all wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
I got it.
Come on over you guys.

(10:29):
This is where you gotta sit,right?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yes, you can see.
So basically

Speaker 3 (10:36):
You don't, you're not going to sit.
Okay.
Oh, y'all want me, I bring thekids and why don't we bring the
kids in?
Um, I'm unsure.
Are you all, let me I'll.
Hold on.
We got it.
It's good.
But what I do every day, hightolerance, I think he wanted to

(10:59):
sit on this lap

Speaker 1 (11:01):
So he could see.
So you guys come in,

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Let's introduce our kids.
Okay.
So this is William Williams sayhi.
Okay.
So if I stopped the live video,um, and abruptly, you know why
William is six.
This is basket.
What's up.
And what's your real name?

(11:29):
Um, let me get you to sit back.
And this one is mine.
This is JJ.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Hi guys.
Hi.
Y'all I am nine years old and Iam fourth grade.
I'm doing very well.
Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Okay.
But we didn't ask you all[inaudible] okay.
Okay.
So I want to ask a question andI want everyone to answer at one
time.
Jay is going to be first.
Jay, Jay, sit up.
My question to you is do mamaright now.
Okay?
Okay.

(12:03):
All right.
How is it being the son of ahairstylist?
I like it.
Okay.
Well, why do you like it?

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Because she does all this stuff.
So that way she could hold downfor me, hold down for me and my
sisters hold down for that houseso that we were able to have a
roof to live under.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Man.
That was a good answer.
That's a good, good answer.
Okay.
So Morel, how is it being theson of a hairstylist?
It feels good because, um, she,because I love, because I just
got my here, but it's kind ofsad because that's what you got

(12:42):
to answer.
The question.
You a son of a hairstylist.
Do you get sad?
Because I'm at work.
Sometimes you get like, how doyou feel?
Like, does it make you feelhappy or you feel happy because
she got her own business.
And she's talking about a yearto you guys, so it can help you
Dyson students.
And she's a really good mom.

(13:04):
Oh, that's the best good.
Now I need you to, to answerthis question, like a big guy.
How does it feel?
Being the son of a hairstylistwall?
She does it every time makespodcasters.
And when she does hair, she justbreaks us a lot of money.

(13:36):
Okay.
I think your answer is longenough.
That's[inaudible] Oh, you gotsome more?
Okay.
Finish it.
Hurry up Sandra, about her aswhen she makes the here, look at
let's look into speak louder.
When I'm at the hair as what isit?
Pretty as pretty and stuff.

(13:58):
Um, we, we get a lot of money.
Okay.
Well that's the mouth.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, he's not, he didn't meanit.
He just loves you.
So you like being, everybody'swatching you guys, you know
that?
I have a question.
Okay, go ahead.
Let's question.
How did you know mr.

(14:18):
Farah?
I guess it's go for everybody.
We're going to start with Jay.
Jay.
How, how good do you think I amat doing hair and be honest.
Like totally honest.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
You're good because you do mine and you y'all both
went to hair school.
So y'all kinda know how to doit.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Jay, are you talking about me too?
Like, just call be good.
We kind of know what we doing.
Okay.
I like that.
So when you think of your hair,your hair,

Speaker 5 (14:41):
I think it's good because I remember when it was
really short and ever sinceyou've been doing my hair, it's
been growing.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah.
I promise.
I didn't tell him to say that,but his hair grow.
I grow

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Here.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Do you have the little girl?
Like, this is something that wereally did.
Um, we didn't rehearse.
No, because I really think itmight've.
I don't know how it came out.
I just said, Hey, just call himout here at the fair.
Let's see.
What's going to go.
So I'm going to get you guys toslide back under.
Tell everybody you got some elseyou want to say about, Oh, well

(15:17):
we'll do that on another podcaston your hair.
Okay.
Put that down.
Put that down.
No, it's not.
We're going to get your podcastsbefore they go.
Let them know what salon theymake.
Everybody in the rural need tocome to[inaudible] okay.

(15:47):
Be careful.
Y'all don't be so loud.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
So what about the high toleranceyou have to have now?
How are you feeling?
That's why when people call, Isay, hold on the phones for you.
It's a mom and she hasthree-year-old twins.

(16:09):
And you say, I can get you.
And she's so humble when doingthe kids.
She never tells me no.
When I hand her that phone.
Oh my God.
Somebody say my hands is full.
My hands are full.
Oh my gosh.
Yes they are.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
They are.
We work.
We got this.
We worked hard.
And um, everything that is givenwe deserve, I think so too.
We have long, we worked longdays.
What's your thanks.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
So this is what you're going to hear in the
background.
You're going to continue to hearthe kids.
I'm sweating real.
I'm sweating a lot.
Y'all gotta take my glasses off.
So, Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
This is everyday though.
This is, this is everyday.
Well, this is everyday in yourchair.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 (17:03):
We just experienced right now.
Uh, but it's not three at once.
It's just one.
Sometimes it feels like three atone, but it's like that in your
chair.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Okay.
Cause, um, I'm okay with it.
I love the kids.
They love me.
And um, I hear it all in mychair.
You know, they tell me they

Speaker 3 (17:21):
I'll tell you too much.
They do

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Sometimes.
Okay.
I'm going to tell you sometimesthey love me.
Sometimes they hate me.
Sometimes they like my hair.
Sometimes they're like, ms.
LA, are you going to wear yourhair like that today?
I'm like, I came to work likethis, right?
They love me.
We have a ball in the chairthough.
The kids love me and the kidstell the truth.
They, Oh my God.
They tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Tell too much of the truth.
Oh goodness.
Well, pretty much putting thisepisode together,

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Moving forward with going live.
The purpose of this episodes isso you can get our perspective
of being a hairstylist andseeing the benefits of doing
kids and getting the wholefamily it's for some people,

(18:11):
which is for the Farrah and somepeople it's, you know, it's,
it's not for, but that's herniche.
And I want to say just aboutevery client that sits in her
chair, she does the, you do thewhole family.
I do the whole family.
Even when it comes with the, thefootball player, the high school
football players, the moms, yourelax, you color, you braid, you

(18:35):
twist.
So you do a lot of athletes andyou do a lot of their moms, or
you do a lot of kids whostarting off with dreads.
She starts dreads off.
So she does a lot.
So if you get that type, like ifit's something that you really
want to do, um, that could be aniche.
And instead of, you know, Ialways say every client that you

(18:56):
do, depending on yourdemographics, you're going to
make a thousand to$1,500 a yearoff of each client.
So she's getting a family offour and just one pot.
So multiply that by four.
And then all the families youhave, I'm not trying to tell
your business.
Okay, but this is, but this it's.

(19:18):
So the young stylists and thestudents can kind of have a
perspective of, you know, whenyou put dollar amount to
something, it makes sensesometimes.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
And um, I will say doing hair, it's, uh, it's a
really great career to be in.
Um, if, if you love it and, butyou have to have a passion for
it and to make great money, likeon any job, you can make great
money, but doing anything, doinganything.
But when you are in the industryof doing hair, you have to

(19:48):
really put yourself out therebecause this is your business.
Nobody, if nobody else don't doit, you have to do it.
I know you guys see me postingpictures all the time of me, my
kid, my hair.
Um, but that's what you have todo.
And this is where the students,you gotta post, post post.
And, um, that's how I got, well,that's my experience.

(20:09):
I post a lot.
I wear a shirt that says myname.
I send my kid to school with theshirt on, with my style's Baila
Farrah.
And, uh, I get business.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
It works, it doesn't work.
And it makes a difference.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
It makes a difference.
So to all the students, you, ifyou are in the, a student that
is really wanting to do hair,um, go for it.
It's a lot of money there to bemade.
Go for it.
Be consistent, be passionate, bepassionate, be the best you that
you can be.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
And if you need help and you need a mentor, call me
on welfare and we can give youtips.
We'll Def, that's what thispodcast is all about.
I'm pretty sure she has adifferent perspective than I
have.
And my perspective is differentthan ours.
I'm so happy.
You guys

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Are watching what'd you do kids.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
I, um, I have a couple of kids.
That's like, I'm like, why wouldyou ask me that?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
What, how you feel about, because you have a lot of
sizes that will, and you have alot of status that won't, and
it's not a good or a bad thing.
It just is what it is.
You know, I like

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Giving the stylist and the salon that I'm at, who
does the best job.
If you didn't work there and akid wanted their hair done.
Absolutely.
I would do it.
And I would do my very best.
But because who is that?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Ms.
Alexander.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to interrupt, butI see she put, you guys make me
wish I had finished.
I had my glasses on.
I'm so sorry.
I love doing hair.
You definitely have to love it.
Um,

Speaker 1 (21:43):
That's my bestie.
She should finish

Speaker 2 (21:45):
You still, you still can finish.
I don't know your bestie, butI'm just reading your comment
and you should finish.
Go, go for it.
You can do it.
Um, if you love it, like yousay, you do, and I'm just, I'm
reading and I'm squinting.
I'm so sorry.
I can't see.
But, um, real Alexander, I thinkyou should go for it.

(22:05):
If you have any questions, callyour best friend or I can be
your best friend.
You can be your best call me too.
I can't take her, but you can dothis real Alexander that just
caught my eye down.
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
It's never too late.
What was I saying?
I forgot because I just cut youoff asking me about if I do
kids.
And I say, what I like to do atthe salon is if it's something
that I know someone at thatsalon does better, then I give
it to them.
So I know you do kids better.
So I give it to you.
So why would I keep somethingfor myself when I know that
you've mastered it and you coulddo a better go back, go back.

(22:42):
Sorry.
We're almost done.
You guys

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Got to know how to do those kids.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I wish you wouldn't move to Jacksonville.
That'd be great.
That would be so great.
So

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Do you want to add anything?
Um, no, I don't think so.
I just want people to know that,um, I do kids, but if you are a
stylist that don't do kids, it'snot a big deal.
Um, everything is not foreverybody.
So I like kids.
Not that the other stylistsdon't like kids, but, um, it's

(23:17):
just not for everybody.
It's not for everyone.
And some days I don't, I have mydays where I'm like, I need a
break from him because I'm awoman, but that's okay.
Um, I'm human and I take mybreak and then I'll be ready to
go full force again for the nextfew months with them.
So with that being said, bringyour kids to me.
Um, I love on the kids.
They love on me and,

Speaker 1 (23:38):
And we'll make it happen.
That's all right.
Well, we're going to sign off.
Thank you guys for joining blueconnections.
My name is Tamika Morgan, myspecial guests.
L'Affaire Shaw.
We both work at Blueleaf salon.
Blueleaf connection.
It bridges the gap between thestudent and the licensed
professional.

(23:59):
Thank you.
You guys have a good night.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
[inaudible] how good was my answer?
Your answer.
Y'all get back.
Don't touch the phone.
Let me see the lines I wrote.

(24:32):
I started sweating then mymouth.
I said, Oh God, I, I, my breathand Snick, I need a peppermint.
My mouth started getting dry.
You guys want, you wantsomething to eat?
Yes, ma'am.
I'm not tonight.
We're gonna go.
We're gonna go.
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