November 24, 2025 • 35 mins
SPOILERS: Do not listen to this episode until you have listened to "That Thing We Found" Parts 1-5
In this BTB (Behind the Blunders) our hosts discuss the entire one-shot campaign and Wylie answers questions about the one-shot inspiration as well as some of the behind the DM Screen secrets that were not revealed during the campaign.
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Wylie (00:33):
It was a whole week ago that we wrapped up our one shot
that turned into five episodes.
It was gonna be three, itturned into five.
Um this was my first timeactually DMing for all of you
guys.
So what did you think?
How did it go?
Did you like the adventure?
Mimir (00:49):
I quit.
No, I'm just kidding.
Uh no, I had a blast.
I had a I honestly did.
Um, I think the mysteriousnessof it was a lot of fun.
Um it was good uh descriptorsand characters were a lot of fun
to play with.
Yeah.
Um, I really enjoyed that.
I could picture each of thecharacters.
Um, not because I I don't thinkI have we didn't have art.
(01:12):
I don't know if we did or not.
Oh, I just didn't pay attentionto the art.
Um, but I could picture in mybrain what uh Pyra looks like.
Um Pyra, Apira, Pyra lookslike.
Um, and so that was a lot offun.
It was just cool to interactwith each of those characters,
and each of them had like asignificance almost, uh, and
that was really fun.
Brad (01:31):
I enjoyed a lot of your NPC's voices, they were really
good.
They were they were a lot offun.
Wylie (01:36):
I really liked um when you called the staff meeting.
Yeah, I think it was an episodein episode five when we had a
staff meeting in the kitchen.
Mimir (01:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Wylie (01:44):
That was so fun.
Also, really hard, really fun.
Mimir (01:48):
Yeah, well, I I came up with that idea because I I just
got done with the staff meetingthat like that Tuesday, I think,
is when uh before we recordedthat Tuesday.
And I was just thinking, howfunny would it be to have a
staff meeting in the in thegame?
Like in D D.
Like, I I just think that'sthat's the funniest thing to my
brain.
And so I was like, Well, youknow, that's what he would do to
(02:10):
be like, all right, make surewe're all on the same page, and
then I just ran it as my bossdid, so I was just like, Yeah,
okay, is there any notes?
And then I went through eachcharacter and I skipped over
somebody on purpose, which wasreally funny, and things like
that.
So, yeah, yeah.
Brad (02:27):
Oh man.
Actually, I remember in thatone I had the arcane sickness or
whatever, and and I I had to Ipicked a random you had to pick
a random inadimate object andyou had to speak for them.
So that's why I was always likeI see uh I was like, I'll I'll
I'll check with the frying pans,and like I speak for the frying
pans, and we we say yes.
(02:48):
Like, that's why it was alwayslike
Mimir (02:50):
that's so funny.
Those in Jared's brain waslike, you know what?
I'm just gonna let it happen.
Kipo (02:56):
You know, like Jared was like, I don't want to deal with
the So mine for that last onewas uh you walk into a room and
you forget what you're doingwhere you are.
Mimir (03:08):
I had nothing happen to me, and so I like saved
perfectly and so I was just likeI was just there and I was just
like running the step, and Ifeel like honestly, our staff
meetings probably go the same.
Like at some point in time, Ifeel like there's it's just the
same.
Yeah.
Wylie (03:27):
Yeah.
I felt bad throwing theArcanium sickness on you guys,
Brad (03:30):
But honestly, it was a lot of fun.
It kind of made me just startstop to think like, how do how
in the world do I do this?
But I don't know, it's a funchallenge.
Wylie (03:39):
You guys had like such great characters that already
had such wonderfully developedpersonalities.
I felt bad throwing likesomething else into the mix that
you had to manage.
But I did some initially I wasjust doing the Arcadium sickness
at random, and then I kind oftried to match it up with
something that would be kind offunny, like particularly for
your character.
Like it would be so Alan forhim just to forget what
Room he was in.
Kipo (03:59):
Exactly.
I mean, it wasn't he alreadydid that to start with, so the
sickness really didn't.
Wylie (04:02):
It was just amplifying his own normal neuroses.
Brad (04:05):
So the other one I had if if you didn't pick up on it was
the uh when I was like, whokeeps farting?
Yeah, it's it was because uhGordon was farting but didn't
know he was farting constantly.
And so he was just but healways thought it was someone
else doing it, so
Mimir (04:22):
um mine was uh repeated behavior, was my first one, and
so I kept on touching um what'shis name?
The little guy Java.
Yeah, Java.
I was like, You're a hero, youlike you're a hero, and so I and
then he just latched on tothat.
I was like, Oh, this is gonnaend up bad for me in the future.
Brad (04:39):
I love that Java became almost like, hey, I'm the hero
here, you know?
Mimir (04:44):
So it's all at the end, yeah.
It's not that was his sickness,but I think it's just his case.
Brad (04:50):
It's like the sometimes where you're like, Yeah, you
want to encourage people, butsometimes people take it too far
and they're like, Oh, it'slike, whoa, whoa, whoa, I wasn't
trying to encourage you thatmuch.
Wylie (05:00):
No, he just needed he didn't one little thing to get
him going, and then he was like,Yeah, I could do great things,
guys.
I'm not limited.
It was fun.
Yeah, I I had to cut, I didn'teven when I started this
campaign and was planning it, Ium was inspired by the 1980s
movie The Thing.
So I don't know if any of youguys, I don't think any of you
(05:21):
guys caught on, but I had to dosome stuff to kind of mix it up
and make it like morefunctional, you know, for
gameplay and stuff.
And um at first I was like, howam I gonna let someone know?
Because I decided the playersare gonna have the option to be
able to be taken over.
Yeah.
Not the option, you don'treally get a choice, but when
you get a nat one, you have nochoice.
Mimir (05:40):
Yeah.
Well, I was gonna yeah, I wasgonna mention that, but finish
what you're gonna say.
Wylie (05:43):
Yeah, so for the mechanic, I was like, if I just
straight up start messagingsomebody, it's gonna be really
obvious.
So I had to come up with like areason of why you guys would be
sending me private roles andwhy we'd be doing messaging
anyways.
So that's where the arcaniumsickness came in, because it
wasn't even gonna be a part ofthe campaign and it was just a
cover for ultimately when youwere gonna get taken over by
(06:03):
this kind of body snatchingcreature.
Um, and the rules with the bodysnatching were you had to roll
below a 10 on your constitutionsave and you had to be alone
because I wasn't gonna make it asituation where someone would
witness you getting taken overbecause I really wanted it to
turn into an among us situationwhere you were just like, who
but that it definitely turned tothat?
Mimir (06:25):
And that at some point, well, so I rolled a natural one
for the audience.
Uh I think at some point you'llsee it.
But I and I'm known for that,like in in D D uh my ten years
of playing now.
Always, yeah, I always rolledin the worst possible time.
Um and so I I was rolling, itwas funny because when I was
(06:46):
bad, I was rolling really good.
Wylie (06:48):
And um Yeah, when you became evil, you went so evil so
fast.
Mimir (06:53):
I I was like, oh, I love this.
I love this idea of like oh,and I was like, my because so
he's a mastermind rogue.
So he was like, oh,strategically, this will make
sense, and like every my brainwas like, okay, how do I because
I also DM um in my like othergames and stuff, so I love
playing the bad guy, love beingthe like uh NPCs, and so like,
(07:16):
oh, this is my turn to like justkind of go ham on these two
guys.
Um and Kippo's played in mycampaigns before, so it's
actually super fun.
Yeah, um, but I was like, ooh,what can I do to Brad too?
Um, and so um I think youmessaged me and you were like,
okay, you your objective is toget everybody alone.
And so we had that staffmeeting, and I was like, Well,
(07:38):
what would make sense foreverybody in this scenario?
And I think the the thing thatwould make sense is like, oh,
we're gonna come around with thedog and like check everybody
out because I had that ideaearlier and I said it, and then
everybody was like, kind of giveme weird looks because they're
like, Well, we're a party, butit's like, oh, I don't want a
metagame.
I felt like was I don't knowwhat your guys' thoughts were on
(08:00):
that.
What was your guys' thoughts?
Brad (08:02):
I I was kind of like, all right, that's weird because I
felt like we had somewhat of aplan of what we were gonna do
next, and then it was like,Well, let's let's everybody go
to their own things and stuff,and I was like, Okay, and then
but the moment that I knewsomething was really up, and I
was like, something's happened,is whenever I opened the window,
and then you yeah, and then youyou could you climb up, you
(08:24):
close it, and you were juststaring at me as you did it, and
I was like, That's not normal.
Kipo (08:30):
It channeled Alan too much.
I don't remember thathappening.
Mimir (08:33):
Well, yeah, what happened, what happened was
like, oh, the alien was like, Ithink that's its greatest fear,
is like, oh, okay, cold gettingin.
And so I think it wouldinstinctively just do that.
Sorry for snapping.
Uh instinctively doing that.
Um yeah.
Wylie (08:47):
So the meta behind it was um the cold slows down the
alien, and if it's out in thecold for too long, it completely
incapacitates it.
Mimir (08:54):
Yeah.
Wylie (08:55):
So that's why you didn't get all of the people from the
other base coming to you becausethe dogs were gone, they
wouldn't be able to get therefast enough.
The one wizard who chased thedogs had the fly spell.
And so he was able to get therefaster.
He was able to keep up with thedog and get there before he
froze.
And I think the the generalcharacters would have had some
knowledge that there's anotherbase and stuff, and he was
(09:17):
basically just chasing the dogthough to stop him.
So that's kind of how the firstum alien arrived at your base
was because of that spell.
Um, but that's also why he wasreally easy to defeat because he
had been out in the cold andwas weakened and had also they
there'd even been a whole battlegoing on at the other base, so
with acid and all that kind ofstuff.
Brad (09:35):
Well, yeah.
Oh, so somebody else was fiokay, then that's right.
Because you got the at thetime.
Because we got the little uh Cbasically C D, whatever it is,
the little lotus, theHolocoaster.
Yeah.
That was saying, like, hey,this is happening.
Wylie (09:48):
Yeah.
Yeah, when you eventually gotthat that little tidbit of
knowledge.
Brad (09:51):
But it's like the order to blow up the other big thing.
Wylie (09:54):
They did say you have to destroy it.
They didn't give you a lot ofother options to and we didn't
end up having time to figure outhow to save them.
Brad (10:01):
I would have been a mini-series.
Wylie (10:05):
But you turned so fast because I sent you the the info
about like, hey, your yourcharacter's been changed, and
immediately I remember you saidsomething about like we
shouldn't go anywhere alone.
Mimir (10:16):
Yeah.
Wylie (10:16):
And I thought you were metagaming to warn them like to
stick together, but you werereally trying to get them to
come alone with you.
Mimir (10:22):
Exactly.
Wylie (10:23):
And so after when you like totally went anyway, like
murder happened.
Mimir (10:27):
Yeah, well, my I don't know if you cut that uh or not
and cut those.
Kipo (10:31):
I caught nothing.
You cut until you were on topof me when I was waking up.
I think my jaw dropped whenyou're like, um, I did you know
40 something points of damage.
And so my first thought waslike, did you like had something
else going on and you werebecause um Bo Bo was with you.
(10:55):
I was like, oh, maybe you likehad something happen to you and
you just did this big likeexplosive spell, and so I took
some like damage from that, butno, you were yeah, no,
Brad (11:06):
I literally I saw it happening and I was like, oh no,
but I was like, there's nothinglike my character is not there,
I can't do it.
Nope.
Mimir (11:14):
Literally, the worst person is the a rogue
mastermind, you know, person tobe taken over.
The the smart he has like a 17,you know, intelligence and
things like that.
And so I was just like, there'sno there's no limit.
And then you said that, hey,this is your stats, which is
great because I was I literallyalmost assassinated you.
Kipo (11:34):
Like full out, yeah.
Mimir (11:35):
I was gonna do all non-lethal and then just take
over your body then right, butum, yeah, it was uh knowing that
my character wasn't I think Ithink a little bit was like um
uh Jared almost leaned into itof like, oh, they don't listen
to me anyway.
Like, and I think that is alittle bit of like why at first
(11:57):
he was that and he was like, Oh,okay, like hey, you guys are
gonna listen to me.
And like it's almost likemanipulating his brain of like,
hey, this is what oh, they don'tlisten to you, just take over
that, you know, take over themand things like that.
Wylie (12:11):
Um be safer if I control them.
Mimir (12:14):
Exactly.
Everybody will listen to you ifyou're the if you're the one,
you know,
Wylie (12:17):
if you're the puppet master.
Mimir (12:18):
Yeah, exactly.
And so that's kind of where Iwas at uh with him.
And then I think he went hewent super um of like, oh, uh
because another thing is like2v1ing a rogue as easy as can
be, you know.
Uh the rogue is only deadlywhen they have stealth on their
side.
And so the second I I didn'thave stealth, it was kind of all
(12:40):
over for me.
But uh that initial, I wasreally happy.
Um I know I know people couldhear me uh hear me smile through
the airphones.
Brad (12:48):
Absolutely love. "Java" *creepy voice*
Mimir (12:51):
Well, with the axe situation when they're breaking
down the door, um and oh and theshining.
Yeah, and the shining.
Yeah.
And I gave Sloane a look andshe was like, whoa.
Yeah.
Across the table.
Yeah.
Wylie (13:10):
That's great.
You're reading a weird echo.
Kipo (13:12):
I'm hearing uh is it your water bottle?
Wylie (13:15):
Maybe I'll move it.
Kipo (13:18):
Yeah, you know that like when you hit a pitch and then
yeah, whatever that doesn't payfor that.
Yeah.
Mimir (13:23):
There was um a Mastermind Rogue creature that I wanted to
use.
Oh, is it still doing it?
Yeah.
It's you hit a certain note.
Oh.
Where is it?
Is it in here?
Mastermind rogue.
Oh, there it is.
Is it over here?
Mastermind.
(13:46):
Uh do it again.
Uh I hear it.
I know Master Mind Rogue.
Oh, what's it?
I hear it over here.
Is it that?
Yeah, I got it.
Is it all of our metal mindrogue?
Kipo (14:01):
No, it's still over here.
Wylie (14:03):
It's a little better, I think.
Kipo (14:06):
Oh! It might be the metal down here.
Wylie (14:13):
We haven't noticed that before.
Kipo (14:14):
Never noticed it before.
Yeah.
Weird.
And you've always had thatwater bottle.
Wylie (14:18):
Yeah.
I mean, it was sitting herelast time.
Kipo (14:20):
I just don't want it to be picked up on the mic, but I I
don't think it will.
Wylie (14:24):
Yeah.
Kipo (14:24):
Yeah, I should be fine.
Wylie (14:25):
Just don't just don't go.
Kipo (14:27):
Don't go.
Mimir (14:29):
Um anyway, a uh mastermind rogue feature that I
can copy them their uhabilities, uh like their voices
and stuff, I would love to do atsome point.
Um I didn't get to do that.
Um I was going to do it with uhif I got kicked uh a certain
(14:52):
place, but um yeah, that's kindof that's one of the features
that I would love to use, but Inever got to.
Yeah.
Um because I love themastermind rogue.
Wylie (15:02):
And I just didn't expect you to go like I should have
sent you the stats immediately,but I just I didn't think that
you'd be so eager to kill therest of the PC's.
And as a DM, I was like, oh no.
This could be a TPK right here.
Because Alan and Gordon werenot engaged in the campaign.
Mimir (15:26):
It was really good.
Wylie (15:27):
They were so fun characters, but I was like, it's
gonna be real hard to get outof here.
Mimir (15:31):
I think there was a point in time where you guys were
texting each other, and you guyswere like, What do we do?
Yeah, literally.
Just like sat there for likeminutes.
Brad (15:39):
Um, actually, okay, actually, behind that, one of
the things um Kipo was trying tostart a chat, and it literally
was not working.
Oh, so that was the longesttime where we're like talking,
like trying to like like, hey,it's not working.
That's what it was.
Kipo (15:55):
Because we were sitting there, we're like I was
preoccupied trying to figure outour yeah, what we were gonna
do.
Yes, yeah.
Brad (16:02):
And so we were trying to figure out and he and it made me
laugh because Mimir's justlike, oh man, I want to know
what they're trying.
And we're literally, we're notsaying anything to each other
other than why is it notworking?
Why is the chat not working?
Yeah, it wasn't anything, itwasn't anything to do with it.
Mimir (16:19):
When you guys did something, you guys just walked.
And I was like, What could theythen like think?
Like, do they have like a spellon them or something?
I was like, I don't like at onepoint I wanted to grab all the
chickens and have a chickenarmy, but I just couldn't roll
high enough.
I was like most of ourmessaging, I was like, I want
(16:40):
this.
This would be the greatestthing of my life.
Walk towards the kitchen and belike, you're the one that's
like eating us to Ram Shield anduh couldn't couldn't do it.
Wylie (16:50):
I'm pretty sure I sent you the message roll for
chickens.
Yeah, exactly.
Kipo (16:54):
For chickens, yeah, it was very funny.
Wylie (16:56):
And I love the chickens.
I love the one that ended upbeing all creepy when you guys
are just coming through thebiosphere at the point.
Brad (17:03):
Yeah, yeah.
It's funny.
Uh you had sent me the thingbefore, like, hey, you should
name the chickens.
I was like, oh yeah, I shoulddo that.
Totally forgot about it.
And then you're in like, yeah,Gordon like has named the
chickens.
I was like, oh shoot.
Uh Betty Sue.
Yep, Betty Sue.
And then I was all good thing.
And then finally I was like,Hank.
Wylie (17:21):
Hank.
Brad (17:22):
There's Hank.
Yep.
Wylie (17:23):
Hank was perfect.
Brad (17:26):
Rip.
Mimir (17:26):
Rip Hank.
R-I-P-Hank.
I'm the new Hank.
Um, but yeah, it was a lot offun.
Good.
It was uh really funny havingBo Jangles um run around and
just while you guys were gone,just like closing windows.
I feel like at some point hehad no more windows, but he's
(17:48):
like, there's gotta be windows.
It's just like that was theonly order that I gave him
because I was like, oh, he'llcircle back around.
And he never did it.
And I was like, dang.
Brad (17:58):
He just goes, he's on top of the biosphere, trying to
like, where are the winds?
Like, I don't know how to closethese.
Yeah, that was oh man, that wasgood.
Mimir (18:09):
Um, favorite NPC though, pyra pyra for sure.
Okay.
Wylie (18:12):
Well, you guys spent the most time with her because you
took her to the other base withyou and stuff, so she was really
fun to play.
Brad (18:18):
I'll say her her and Java were very useful in the story.
Yeah, I know.
Or gnar classic gnar.
Classic gnar.
Yeah.
Just, you know, got abducted.
Um I thought it was interestingthough, how like a lot, like I
I was so confused whenever wegot to the other base, and I was
(18:38):
like, what's going on?
What is happening, you know?
Wylie (18:42):
The mystery.
Yeah, when you guys got there.
Yeah, so the listeners couldn'tsee it, but I had the whole all
the rooms of the base werecovered up with um just a
graphic, so they couldn't seewhat was in the different rooms
and stuff, and then as we openedthem up, they got to find the
different clues and stuff alongthe way and and see pictures of
our acid lab and of the I don'tknow if we got one of the ice
(19:02):
lab with the big ice cube in itand stuff.
And yeah.
And of the cool, the cool bladethat we came up with and stuff.
Mimir (19:08):
So I was trying, yeah.
Yeah.
They were immune to fire, so myblade didn't do extra damage,
but it did extra damage toyou guys.
So yeah.
That was that was really fun todo that.
Um there was a point where Iwent full like security, like
notebook out, and then had afull security thing where I was
(19:29):
like drawing lines and stuff,not in real life, but in the
game.
And I feel like at some point Iwhat did I I oh I I I showed uh
Kipo and I was like, I thinkthe people turned into jelly.
Yeah.
And then I think is that whathappened?
I'm yeah, I'm a little stilllike, are were they jelly or
(19:49):
were they just leaving jellybehind them?
Wylie (19:52):
The jelly was the byproduct of the of the creature
from the caverns coming ofgetting connected with them and
then like taking over andmelding its own cells with their
cells.
So I had to leave some clues,and I didn't want it to be too
gory or anything, so I had toleave some clues, and then you
guys decided to eat it, whichwas so funny.
Okay, hold on.
Brad (20:12):
But that was literally under the arcane sickness.
I know, and I was wanting to doit anyway.
I mean, I probably would have,
Kipo (20:19):
but but not as much.
Brad (20:21):
But but for Gordon, it was like he can't stop eating.
That's why he had all thesnacks and everything.
It was eating everything.
And then it said even eatingthings that are not food.
And so when I saw the jelly, Iwas like, well, he would
probably be like, I'm gonna tryit.
Wylie (20:37):
You know, um, you can do what go to the movies and you
can watch the movies where theyserve you food that goes along
with the movie.
Maybe we should create atasting menu for our episodes.
Brad (20:47):
Fireweed jelly.
Wylie (20:48):
There's some fireweed jelly, there's um, there's like
a what it was it jambalaya, orwhat did you make in the end?
Gumbo.
Gumbo.
Um yeah, so there's I thinkthere is food in every episode
that you know there's the trailsnacks that you ate on the way.
Brad (21:03):
I do, I do, I do have family recipe of gumbo, so yeah.
Nice.
Wylie (21:06):
We could totally make a tasting menu.
So the listeners could couldsnack along.
That would be so funny.
Mimir (21:15):
Um really good though.
Wylie (21:16):
I I like the mystery.
Yeah, the mystery was reallygood.
Brad (21:20):
Actually, I do have a question.
The okay.
Uh shoot, what's his name?
Aggro?
Alright.
So he died.
We put him in the shed.
Mimir (21:32):
And then he got turned to jelly, right?
Or got vacuumed up.
Wylie (21:36):
So you guys didn't ever get to witness this, but when um
the like the alien cells uhweren't destroyed.
So his body was dead, but thealien cells weren't destroyed,
so they could separate out andgo and like become they would be
kind of more like a like alittle like mushroom character,
like um, they had the ability toseparate from the body because
(21:58):
it wasn't burnt in acid.
So as long as it hadn't beenfully destroyed in acid, it
would sprout off legs and limbsand stuff.
And you've got I don't know ifyou witnessed it.
Um yeah.
So back at Istid Jokul, if youhad opened up the vacuum that
was there, Hoover, you wouldhave found a hand that was
(22:18):
Aggro's hand that had sproutedlegs.
Mimir (22:21):
So at some point in the battle, we would have probably
attacked them at that point.
Wylie (22:26):
Yeah, probably would have at tacked the whole base
Mimir (22:30):
That's really interesting.
Wylie (22:32):
Yeah, so that that would have kind of revealed the dead
body parts can still like beanimated and still be a threat
because it's just that these uhmushroom creatures are melding
their DNA with yours and they'rereplicating your DNA, and so
until like the whole you knowgroup is destroyed with acid,
it's still functional.
So did Aggro leave, I guess, inthat yeah, so so that would
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have the Aggro lost his handbefore he was fully like taken
over.
Gotcha, gotcha, and then thevacuum got the hand, and then
Aggro eventually was fully takenover and he left to chase the
dog.
Brad (23:08):
Right.
But whenever he got to ourshed, where did he go?
Because we all we saw wasjelly.
Wylie (23:13):
Yeah, so he took over Nar.
Brad (23:16):
Took over who?
Nar.
Wylie (23:18):
Yeah.
When you guys came back, Narhad already been taken over.
So I rolled for the NPCs whileyou guys were gone.
Mimir (23:25):
Best person to be taken over.
Wylie (23:26):
It was, it was.
Honestly, yeah, best person.
And I kind of wanted I wantedto make sure that not everybody
would be taken over because atthis point I really needed Java
to tell you guys about theinfinite gulp.
Brad (23:36):
Right.
i love that.
Mimir (23:37):
Yeah, that we didn't know about that.
Wylie (23:39):
And he definitely would not reveal that if he was taken
over.
So I was like, well, it makessense that Java, he's like, he
was inspired, he's gonna followyour directions, he's gonna keep
the lab locked, he's gonnafollow procedure.
Brad (23:49):
I meant to pick up some kvas for you guys to try.
Mimir (23:53):
See, the interesting part when I I I just want to circle
back.
When I was taking over, I wasgoing between Java or uh Pyra
was the two that I wanted to youwanted to take.
And I couldn't decide which,but then I read that this was
immune to fire, and so I waslike, Pyra is the obvious option
in that brain.
After you, obviously.
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You know.
Wylie (24:15):
But you did take over Bojangles.
Mimir (24:17):
I did take over Bojangles.
Wylie (24:19):
Yeah.
So that was one of the initialso immediately he's like, Okay,
I go for bull bojangles, andthen he rolled and you won.
So you took over Bojangles, andyeah, he had you had to do a
Brad (24:30):
So when and where did that happen?
Kipo (24:31):
Dog kennels?
Mimir (24:32):
Yeah, on the way to the dog kennel way to be.
On the way to the I'll go getthe dog real quick.
And then I was like
Wylie (24:42):
And you went into the dog kennels and the dog was
barking, and you kind of coveredit with it was a Bojangles
thing.
Yeah.
Because it was barking at well,I because you think you had
taken Bojangles by that point,but it was barking at both of
you.
Mimir (24:53):
Yeah.
Wylie (24:53):
But but it could have looked like it was just
Bojangles because you bothentered together.
Mimir (24:57):
Yep.
Yeah.
Wylie (24:59):
So then you kind of gave up on the dog plot, you know.
Mimir (25:02):
Well, yeah, I well, because I didn't need it was a
good help, yeah.
I it was gonna only worsen me.
Um yeah.
Yeah, it was it was fun.
Uh I I like being bad uh PvP uma little bit.
Um, and then it was good thatyou guys figured out everything
and just left us, you know.
Kipo (25:20):
I'm just called I could get away.
Yeah, yeah.
It was great.
Mimir (25:23):
That was a great reading of spells.
Kipo (25:25):
I can't believe I picked yeah, picking those spells, uh
they all were great for uh forAlan having um gaseous form to
get away from you, and then alsohad acid splash as a cantrip.
That's huge for this campaign.
Should we have should I don'tthink I use it much, but I I had
it.
Mimir (25:45):
Well, yeah, because I took the jug.
Yeah, as for the So I took theother acid, and then the other
acid person that's who I wasgoing for is and then there was
a defense against that.
Yep.
Kipo (25:56):
It was good, crazy.
It was a good time.
Wylie (26:00):
It was fun trying to figure out how to trickle all
the clues in and not make it toomuch, not too many red herrings
and stuff.
Brad (26:07):
There were so many moments where I was like, what is
happening?
Yeah, how do I figure this out?
Mimir (26:11):
It was such a intense moment in the basement of Jokul,
I believe.
In the cavern.
We were walking back and theywere like circling us.
And I remember you stood in theway of one of them.
Um, and there was like a umsituation where I was like, Oh,
like I said out loud, I waslike, oh, this is a perfect
moment for a trap to happen.
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Like an And I'm by myself,you're and then you're in the
front, you know.
And it was like
Kipo (26:38):
Did they think Alan was one of them because he could
just start walking on the walls?
Wylie (26:42):
Um that wasn't that wasn't my mindset.
That wouldn't make sense.
That's really funny.
At that point, you guys wereagreeing to help them.
Mimir (26:48):
Yeah.
Wylie (26:49):
So they they just didn't have it, if we found that hand,
I think we would have hadenough.
Mimir (26:54):
Where was the hand exactly in the vacuum?
Yeah, in their vacuum.
Wylie (26:57):
In their vacuum.
Mimir (26:58):
Yeah, we just didn't have enough clues, like we didn't
put all the clues together oflike I thought I thought it
because I mentioned in one ofthe videos or the videos, the
episodes, yeah, episode uhbehind the scenes, um, where it
was like that Star Trek episode.
Remember?
You did, yeah.
Yeah, you did say that.
And I was like, okay, I'm onthe case, you know, I'm working
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it.
But then I was like, I have I iit just went cold of like I
feel like we could fight them,but then I was like, I don't
want to kill like if they werejust actual dumb people, you
know.
Kipo (27:31):
It was a time constraint for the storm that really would
have spent way more time thereif we didn't have that in the
back of our minds.
Mimir (27:40):
We even split up and uh rooms together.
Wylie (27:45):
And I I do remember right after you saw the vacuum for
the first time, you did saysomething about empty the tank.
Yeah, but you guys didn'tactually do it.
Oh yeah so because then youwould have found the hand early
on before you had been down inthe caverns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And initially I wasn't evengonna make there be any staff
left at the base.
Yeah, but at that point we werekind of running into it was
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gonna be an awkward length ofepisodes.
Um, so yeah, originally,because just because we had a
split between record weekendsand stuff, um, I ended up making
a whole staff, and they had alittle bit of a snow white and
seven dwarfs vibe too.
Kipo (28:19):
Um I'm glad you did that so that we could just blow them
up in the last episode.
Mimir (28:24):
Yeah, ended wonderfully.
Even though you guys could haveprobably clearly have saved
them, um, but it you know,because you saved everybody at
the end anyway, but then youwent and blew them up anyway.
So it was just like it was justhad to be done.
It was a cool like mini heistand stuff like that, too, that
you guys did.
Wylie (28:41):
Yeah, the mini heist was fun.
I mean the the epic moment whenyou guys turn in the
jet-powered sled to leave.
I just the the whole likecinematics of that just came
together so perfectly.
Brad (28:53):
It went to the body.
There was a small part of methat wanted Gordon just to be
like, do we look cool?
Kipo (28:58):
Is this cool?
I wish Jenny could see this.
Mimir (29:04):
I um it was cool also just like sitting back because I
was just tied up at that point,sitting back and just enjoying
the story, like just listeningand watching you guys uh play
DD, which was a lot of fun.
So I was like, cool, I'm justhanging out now.
You know, I'm off therecording.
Wylie (29:21):
Yeah, uh initially I was kind of thinking with all the
tension that you guys might getup out of the cavern and cave it
in behind you and trap themdown there because you did have
Pyra with you, but it it waslike they let them come up with
you, so the tension was justlike and I as a DM, the tension
was like, oh no, I'm gonna haveto like pilot all of these NPCs
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now and like this whole battle,and I did not have full
character sheets for each ofthem or anything.
Kipo (29:49):
He struggled against one mushroom for 30 minutes in the
left.
Oh my gosh.
Mimir (29:56):
Is that why he cut off his hand?
Um because that's what I Ithought.
Wylie (30:00):
Aggro would have cut his hand.
So Aggro was not taken.
He was like he was fightingoff.
Yeah.
Mimir (30:06):
And did one like stick onto his hand and so he cut
that's what I imagined happenedof like because I almost did the
same thing to my own hand whenit was on me.
And I was like, oh no, youknow?
Wylie (30:16):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
It was that that would makesense as a battle wound.
Mimir (30:22):
Yeah.
It was really cool.
I enjoyed it.
Wylie (30:25):
Yeah, and then one of them had a funky leg.
Mimir (30:26):
Yeah.
Wylie (30:27):
Because he had been he had been absorbed by the jelly
cube.
He had lost his foot becausethe acid had eaten through when
he was a normal human.
And then when he didn't have afoot.
And so when the mushroom tookhim over, it was a funky shaped
foot because he was like notsure how to regrow it and it was
like a fake one.
Mimir (30:45):
We almost plugged that too because there was like a
moment where it was like that.
And I was like, oh, but then Iwas like, what is it?
Is it not?
Like I felt like it wasconceivable for them to just
have a like prosthetic foot.
Right?
And I was like, all right,well, okay.
And then you caught the chefthing.
Brad (31:02):
Yeah, that that just stuck out.
Mimir (31:04):
If we had enough time, I think we would have snuck back
in.
Like we would have done yourinvisible plan that we talked
about.
Kipo (31:09):
And then I wonder if they would have talked or if because
they were just kind of braindead, they would have just like
not said anything and justwalked around like because they
were just hanging in the rightcavern.
Like, what else do they have todo?
There's no real tasks.
They're just like
Wylie (31:22):
yeah, because they wouldn't normally communicate
via speech, as you know, as muchas they probably
Kipo (31:27):
would have been in there and Alan would have just saw
them just like not talking toeach other.
And that would have been Imean, that would have been weird
that they're not talking toeach other.
Mimir (31:35):
So one of my favorite quit quotes though, uh from
Hoodwinked, it's like, you can'tarrest somebody from be for
being weird.
And they call it what a movie.
He goes, Oh, well, uh, you knowthat weird guy, and he's like,
You mean the one in the cage?
He's like, Yeah, we shouldprobably let him go.
And I I was thinking that quotewhen we were in that moment, I
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was like, I can't just kill thisguy because he's weird.
Kipo (31:59):
It's not a good enough situation.
I love that movie.
Oh, so good.
I love that movie too.
Mimir (32:06):
Um, yeah, it was good.
Oh, it was fun.
Uh good wrap-up.
I felt like everything wasclean and stuff.
Kipo (32:13):
Yeah.
Mimir (32:13):
Um, Pyra got to explode the base.
That's their rate.
Kipo (32:18):
It's always good to make the NPCs happy.
Wylie (32:20):
Yeah.
Fulfill their dreams.
Mimir (32:22):
It was satisfying too.
Um, I felt like that we wereall closer, you know.
Everybody got what they wanted.
Um, I think at that very end, Iwould say that you would have
gotten your all your spice.
Brad (32:33):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Wylie (32:35):
Jared's now seen what real danger looks like.
Brad (32:38):
It's like, I think this is fine.
Mimir (32:40):
Well, and I love the idea that you go back to retiring,
and then I also go back toretiring.
I was like, I'm done, you know?
Kipo (32:48):
And then Gordon just walks off into the distance.
You wake up back intoconsciousness, uh, covered in
acid, just going, Yeah, exactly.
Mimir (32:59):
That'll be the rest of my life.
Yeah.
Wylie (33:01):
You can never eat Jello.
Mimir (33:02):
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's the idea of uh Gordonwalking out at the very end, and
then he accidentally circlesback and he's like, Oh, this is
where I live.
Yeah, yeah.
Brad (33:16):
He's just live, he's very, he's very cyclical, you know.
He just like always comes back.
It's like, yeah, this is thisis my house.
Wylie (33:22):
Yeah.
Brad (33:23):
Uh it's great though.
Wylie (33:24):
Yeah, it was really fun.
I really, really love thecharacters you guys made.
It was it just it was a blast.
I'm gonna miss them when we doour main campaign, but I'm very
confident that you new newcharacters are gonna be just as
fun.
Kipo (33:38):
Let me tell you, I'm just you wait listeners.
Mimir (33:40):
Hey, I'm gonna make somebody cry.
That's my job.
Oh, and that's whether oflaughter or seriousness.
And that's honestly, you guyscould it'll be a win either way.
Yeah, yeah.
Wylie (33:54):
Well, that'll be yeah.
Looking forward to thecampaign.
It's gonna be super, super fun.
And maybe someday we'll have tocome back and revisit these
characters.
Maybe we'll come up withanother side story for them or
something.
Mimir (34:04):
I'll definitely have an idea for one-off for them.
So well, good.
Wylie (34:07):
Yeah, maybe you can DM that one.
That would be fun.
Mimir (34:10):
You can play Pyra.
Wylie (34:11):
Y eah, I could play Pyra full time.
That would be so fun.
Brad (34:13):
That'd be awesome.
Kipo (34:14):
Jared's retired.
Yeah, Jared's number that wefound.
It's it's it's visiting Alan inthe retirement.
Mimir (34:22):
You have to find Alan.
He's a very high-level wizardnow.
Brad (34:30):
That's awesome.
Yep.
Wylie (34:32):
Okay.
Well, thank you guys forplaying and sticking with me
through the first campaign thatI DM'd for you guys.
It was a lot of fun.
And uh, let's let's get torecording season one.
Kipo (34:42):
Yeah, let's do it.
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It was a whole week ago that we wrapped up our one shot
that turned into five episodes.
It was gonna be three, itturned into five.
Um this was my first timeactually DMing for all of you
guys.
So what did you think?
How did it go?
Did you like the adventure?
Mimir (00:49):
I quit.
No, I'm just kidding.
Uh no, I had a blast.
I had a I honestly did.
Um, I think the mysteriousnessof it was a lot of fun.
Um it was good uh descriptorsand characters were a lot of fun
to play with.
Yeah.
Um, I really enjoyed that.
I could picture each of thecharacters.
Um, not because I I don't thinkI have we didn't have art.
(01:12):
I don't know if we did or not.
Oh, I just didn't pay attentionto the art.
Um, but I could picture in mybrain what uh Pyra looks like.
Um Pyra, Apira, Pyra lookslike.
Um, and so that was a lot offun.
It was just cool to interactwith each of those characters,
and each of them had like asignificance almost, uh, and
that was really fun.
Brad (01:31):
I enjoyed a lot of your NPC's voices, they were really
good.
They were they were a lot offun.
Wylie (01:36):
I really liked um when you called the staff meeting.
Yeah, I think it was an episodein episode five when we had a
staff meeting in the kitchen.
Mimir (01:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Wylie (01:44):
That was so fun.
Also, really hard, really fun.
Mimir (01:48):
Yeah, well, I I came up with that idea because I I just
got done with the staff meetingthat like that Tuesday, I think,
is when uh before we recordedthat Tuesday.
And I was just thinking, howfunny would it be to have a
staff meeting in the in thegame?
Like in D D.
Like, I I just think that'sthat's the funniest thing to my
brain.
And so I was like, Well, youknow, that's what he would do to
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be like, all right, make surewe're all on the same page, and
then I just ran it as my bossdid, so I was just like, Yeah,
okay, is there any notes?
And then I went through eachcharacter and I skipped over
somebody on purpose, which wasreally funny, and things like
that.
So, yeah, yeah.
Brad (02:27):
Oh man.
Actually, I remember in thatone I had the arcane sickness or
whatever, and and I I had to Ipicked a random you had to pick
a random inadimate object andyou had to speak for them.
So that's why I was always likeI see uh I was like, I'll I'll
I'll check with the frying pans,and like I speak for the frying
pans, and we we say yes.
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Like, that's why it was alwayslike
Mimir (02:50):
that's so funny.
Those in Jared's brain waslike, you know what?
I'm just gonna let it happen.
Kipo (02:56):
You know, like Jared was like, I don't want to deal with
the So mine for that last onewas uh you walk into a room and
you forget what you're doingwhere you are.
Mimir (03:08):
I had nothing happen to me, and so I like saved
perfectly and so I was just likeI was just there and I was just
like running the step, and Ifeel like honestly, our staff
meetings probably go the same.
Like at some point in time, Ifeel like there's it's just the
same.
Yeah.
Wylie (03:27):
Yeah.
I felt bad throwing theArcanium sickness on you guys,
Brad (03:30):
But honestly, it was a lot of fun.
It kind of made me just startstop to think like, how do how
in the world do I do this?
But I don't know, it's a funchallenge.
Wylie (03:39):
You guys had like such great characters that already
had such wonderfully developedpersonalities.
I felt bad throwing likesomething else into the mix that
you had to manage.
But I did some initially I wasjust doing the Arcadium sickness
at random, and then I kind oftried to match it up with
something that would be kind offunny, like particularly for
your character.
Like it would be so Alan forhim just to forget what
Room he was in.
Kipo (03:59):
Exactly.
I mean, it wasn't he alreadydid that to start with, so the
sickness really didn't.
Wylie (04:02):
It was just amplifying his own normal neuroses.
Brad (04:05):
So the other one I had if if you didn't pick up on it was
the uh when I was like, whokeeps farting?
Yeah, it's it was because uhGordon was farting but didn't
know he was farting constantly.
And so he was just but healways thought it was someone
else doing it, so
Mimir (04:22):
um mine was uh repeated behavior, was my first one, and
so I kept on touching um what'shis name?
The little guy Java.
Yeah, Java.
I was like, You're a hero, youlike you're a hero, and so I and
then he just latched on tothat.
I was like, Oh, this is gonnaend up bad for me in the future.
Brad (04:39):
I love that Java became almost like, hey, I'm the hero
here, you know?
Mimir (04:44):
So it's all at the end, yeah.
It's not that was his sickness,but I think it's just his case.
Brad (04:50):
It's like the sometimes where you're like, Yeah, you
want to encourage people, butsometimes people take it too far
and they're like, Oh, it'slike, whoa, whoa, whoa, I wasn't
trying to encourage you thatmuch.
Wylie (05:00):
No, he just needed he didn't one little thing to get
him going, and then he was like,Yeah, I could do great things,
guys.
I'm not limited.
It was fun.
Yeah, I I had to cut, I didn'teven when I started this
campaign and was planning it, Ium was inspired by the 1980s
movie The Thing.
So I don't know if any of youguys, I don't think any of you
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guys caught on, but I had to dosome stuff to kind of mix it up
and make it like morefunctional, you know, for
gameplay and stuff.
And um at first I was like, howam I gonna let someone know?
Because I decided the playersare gonna have the option to be
able to be taken over.
Yeah.
Not the option, you don'treally get a choice, but when
you get a nat one, you have nochoice.
Mimir (05:40):
Yeah.
Well, I was gonna yeah, I wasgonna mention that, but finish
what you're gonna say.
Wylie (05:43):
Yeah, so for the mechanic, I was like, if I just
straight up start messagingsomebody, it's gonna be really
obvious.
So I had to come up with like areason of why you guys would be
sending me private roles andwhy we'd be doing messaging
anyways.
So that's where the arcaniumsickness came in, because it
wasn't even gonna be a part ofthe campaign and it was just a
cover for ultimately when youwere gonna get taken over by
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this kind of body snatchingcreature.
Um, and the rules with the bodysnatching were you had to roll
below a 10 on your constitutionsave and you had to be alone
because I wasn't gonna make it asituation where someone would
witness you getting taken overbecause I really wanted it to
turn into an among us situationwhere you were just like, who
but that it definitely turned tothat?
Mimir (06:25):
And that at some point, well, so I rolled a natural one
for the audience.
Uh I think at some point you'llsee it.
But I and I'm known for that,like in in D D uh my ten years
of playing now.
Always, yeah, I always rolledin the worst possible time.
Um and so I I was rolling, itwas funny because when I was
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bad, I was rolling really good.
Wylie (06:48):
And um Yeah, when you became evil, you went so evil so
fast.
Mimir (06:53):
I I was like, oh, I love this.
I love this idea of like oh,and I was like, my because so
he's a mastermind rogue.
So he was like, oh,strategically, this will make
sense, and like every my brainwas like, okay, how do I because
I also DM um in my like othergames and stuff, so I love
playing the bad guy, love beingthe like uh NPCs, and so like,
(07:16):
oh, this is my turn to like justkind of go ham on these two
guys.
Um and Kippo's played in mycampaigns before, so it's
actually super fun.
Yeah, um, but I was like, ooh,what can I do to Brad too?
Um, and so um I think youmessaged me and you were like,
okay, you your objective is toget everybody alone.
And so we had that staffmeeting, and I was like, Well,
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what would make sense foreverybody in this scenario?
And I think the the thing thatwould make sense is like, oh,
we're gonna come around with thedog and like check everybody
out because I had that ideaearlier and I said it, and then
everybody was like, kind of giveme weird looks because they're
like, Well, we're a party, butit's like, oh, I don't want a
metagame.
I felt like was I don't knowwhat your guys' thoughts were on
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that.
What was your guys' thoughts?
Brad (08:02):
I I was kind of like, all right, that's weird because I
felt like we had somewhat of aplan of what we were gonna do
next, and then it was like,Well, let's let's everybody go
to their own things and stuff,and I was like, Okay, and then
but the moment that I knewsomething was really up, and I
was like, something's happened,is whenever I opened the window,
and then you yeah, and then youyou could you climb up, you
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close it, and you were juststaring at me as you did it, and
I was like, That's not normal.
Kipo (08:30):
It channeled Alan too much.
I don't remember thathappening.
Mimir (08:33):
Well, yeah, what happened, what happened was
like, oh, the alien was like, Ithink that's its greatest fear,
is like, oh, okay, cold gettingin.
And so I think it wouldinstinctively just do that.
Sorry for snapping.
Uh instinctively doing that.
Um yeah.
Wylie (08:47):
So the meta behind it was um the cold slows down the
alien, and if it's out in thecold for too long, it completely
incapacitates it.
Mimir (08:54):
Yeah.
Wylie (08:55):
So that's why you didn't get all of the people from the
other base coming to you becausethe dogs were gone, they
wouldn't be able to get therefast enough.
The one wizard who chased thedogs had the fly spell.
And so he was able to get therefaster.
He was able to keep up with thedog and get there before he
froze.
And I think the the generalcharacters would have had some
knowledge that there's anotherbase and stuff, and he was
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basically just chasing the dogthough to stop him.
So that's kind of how the firstum alien arrived at your base
was because of that spell.
Um, but that's also why he wasreally easy to defeat because he
had been out in the cold andwas weakened and had also they
there'd even been a whole battlegoing on at the other base, so
with acid and all that kind ofstuff.
Brad (09:35):
Well, yeah.
Oh, so somebody else was fiokay, then that's right.
Because you got the at thetime.
Because we got the little uh Cbasically C D, whatever it is,
the little lotus, theHolocoaster.
Yeah.
That was saying, like, hey,this is happening.
Wylie (09:48):
Yeah.
Yeah, when you eventually gotthat that little tidbit of
knowledge.
Brad (09:51):
But it's like the order to blow up the other big thing.
Wylie (09:54):
They did say you have to destroy it.
They didn't give you a lot ofother options to and we didn't
end up having time to figure outhow to save them.
Brad (10:01):
I would have been a mini-series.
Wylie (10:05):
But you turned so fast because I sent you the the info
about like, hey, your yourcharacter's been changed, and
immediately I remember you saidsomething about like we
shouldn't go anywhere alone.
Mimir (10:16):
Yeah.
Wylie (10:16):
And I thought you were metagaming to warn them like to
stick together, but you werereally trying to get them to
come alone with you.
Mimir (10:22):
Exactly.
Wylie (10:23):
And so after when you like totally went anyway, like
murder happened.
Mimir (10:27):
Yeah, well, my I don't know if you cut that uh or not
and cut those.
Kipo (10:31):
I caught nothing.
You cut until you were on topof me when I was waking up.
I think my jaw dropped whenyou're like, um, I did you know
40 something points of damage.
And so my first thought waslike, did you like had something
else going on and you werebecause um Bo Bo was with you.
(10:55):
I was like, oh, maybe you likehad something happen to you and
you just did this big likeexplosive spell, and so I took
some like damage from that, butno, you were yeah, no,
Brad (11:06):
I literally I saw it happening and I was like, oh no,
but I was like, there's nothinglike my character is not there,
I can't do it.
Nope.
Mimir (11:14):
Literally, the worst person is the a rogue
mastermind, you know, person tobe taken over.
The the smart he has like a 17,you know, intelligence and
things like that.
And so I was just like, there'sno there's no limit.
And then you said that, hey,this is your stats, which is
great because I was I literallyalmost assassinated you.
Kipo (11:34):
Like full out, yeah.
Mimir (11:35):
I was gonna do all non-lethal and then just take
over your body then right, butum, yeah, it was uh knowing that
my character wasn't I think Ithink a little bit was like um
uh Jared almost leaned into itof like, oh, they don't listen
to me anyway.
Like, and I think that is alittle bit of like why at first
(11:57):
he was that and he was like, Oh,okay, like hey, you guys are
gonna listen to me.
And like it's almost likemanipulating his brain of like,
hey, this is what oh, they don'tlisten to you, just take over
that, you know, take over themand things like that.
Wylie (12:11):
Um be safer if I control them.
Mimir (12:14):
Exactly.
Everybody will listen to you ifyou're the if you're the one,
you know,
Wylie (12:17):
if you're the puppet master.
Mimir (12:18):
Yeah, exactly.
And so that's kind of where Iwas at uh with him.
And then I think he went hewent super um of like, oh, uh
because another thing is like2v1ing a rogue as easy as can
be, you know.
Uh the rogue is only deadlywhen they have stealth on their
side.
And so the second I I didn'thave stealth, it was kind of all
(12:40):
over for me.
But uh that initial, I wasreally happy.
Um I know I know people couldhear me uh hear me smile through
the airphones.
Brad (12:48):
Absolutely love. "Java" *creepy voice*
Mimir (12:51):
Well, with the axe situation when they're breaking
down the door, um and oh and theshining.
Yeah, and the shining.
Yeah.
And I gave Sloane a look andshe was like, whoa.
Yeah.
Across the table.
Yeah.
Wylie (13:10):
That's great.
You're reading a weird echo.
Kipo (13:12):
I'm hearing uh is it your water bottle?
Wylie (13:15):
Maybe I'll move it.
Kipo (13:18):
Yeah, you know that like when you hit a pitch and then
yeah, whatever that doesn't payfor that.
Yeah.
Mimir (13:23):
There was um a Mastermind Rogue creature that I wanted to
use.
Oh, is it still doing it?
Yeah.
It's you hit a certain note.
Oh.
Where is it?
Is it in here?
Mastermind rogue.
Oh, there it is.
Is it over here?
Mastermind.
(13:46):
Uh do it again.
Uh I hear it.
I know Master Mind Rogue.
Oh, what's it?
I hear it over here.
Is it that?
Yeah, I got it.
Is it all of our metal mindrogue?
Kipo (14:01):
No, it's still over here.
Wylie (14:03):
It's a little better, I think.
Kipo (14:06):
Oh! It might be the metal down here.
Wylie (14:13):
We haven't noticed that before.
Kipo (14:14):
Never noticed it before.
Yeah.
Weird.
And you've always had thatwater bottle.
Wylie (14:18):
Yeah.
I mean, it was sitting herelast time.
Kipo (14:20):
I just don't want it to be picked up on the mic, but I I
don't think it will.
Wylie (14:24):
Yeah.
Kipo (14:24):
Yeah, I should be fine.
Wylie (14:25):
Just don't just don't go.
Kipo (14:27):
Don't go.
Mimir (14:29):
Um anyway, a uh mastermind rogue feature that I
can copy them their uhabilities, uh like their voices
and stuff, I would love to do atsome point.
Um I didn't get to do that.
Um I was going to do it with uhif I got kicked uh a certain
(14:52):
place, but um yeah, that's kindof that's one of the features
that I would love to use, but Inever got to.
Yeah.
Um because I love themastermind rogue.
Wylie (15:02):
And I just didn't expect you to go like I should have
sent you the stats immediately,but I just I didn't think that
you'd be so eager to kill therest of the PC's.
And as a DM, I was like, oh no.
This could be a TPK right here.
Because Alan and Gordon werenot engaged in the campaign.
Mimir (15:26):
It was really good.
Wylie (15:27):
They were so fun characters, but I was like, it's
gonna be real hard to get outof here.
Mimir (15:31):
I think there was a point in time where you guys were
texting each other, and you guyswere like, What do we do?
Yeah, literally.
Just like sat there for likeminutes.
Brad (15:39):
Um, actually, okay, actually, behind that, one of
the things um Kipo was trying tostart a chat, and it literally
was not working.
Oh, so that was the longesttime where we're like talking,
like trying to like like, hey,it's not working.
That's what it was.
Kipo (15:55):
Because we were sitting there, we're like I was
preoccupied trying to figure outour yeah, what we were gonna
do.
Yes, yeah.
Brad (16:02):
And so we were trying to figure out and he and it made me
laugh because Mimir's justlike, oh man, I want to know
what they're trying.
And we're literally, we're notsaying anything to each other
other than why is it notworking?
Why is the chat not working?
Yeah, it wasn't anything, itwasn't anything to do with it.
Mimir (16:19):
When you guys did something, you guys just walked.
And I was like, What could theythen like think?
Like, do they have like a spellon them or something?
I was like, I don't like at onepoint I wanted to grab all the
chickens and have a chickenarmy, but I just couldn't roll
high enough.
I was like most of ourmessaging, I was like, I want
(16:40):
this.
This would be the greatestthing of my life.
Walk towards the kitchen and belike, you're the one that's
like eating us to Ram Shield anduh couldn't couldn't do it.
Wylie (16:50):
I'm pretty sure I sent you the message roll for
chickens.
Yeah, exactly.
Kipo (16:54):
For chickens, yeah, it was very funny.
Wylie (16:56):
And I love the chickens.
I love the one that ended upbeing all creepy when you guys
are just coming through thebiosphere at the point.
Brad (17:03):
Yeah, yeah.
It's funny.
Uh you had sent me the thingbefore, like, hey, you should
name the chickens.
I was like, oh yeah, I shoulddo that.
Totally forgot about it.
And then you're in like, yeah,Gordon like has named the
chickens.
I was like, oh shoot.
Uh Betty Sue.
Yep, Betty Sue.
And then I was all good thing.
And then finally I was like,Hank.
Wylie (17:21):
Hank.
Brad (17:22):
There's Hank.
Yep.
Wylie (17:23):
Hank was perfect.
Brad (17:26):
Rip.
Mimir (17:26):
Rip Hank.
R-I-P-Hank.
I'm the new Hank.
Um, but yeah, it was a lot offun.
Good.
It was uh really funny havingBo Jangles um run around and
just while you guys were gone,just like closing windows.
I feel like at some point hehad no more windows, but he's
(17:48):
like, there's gotta be windows.
It's just like that was theonly order that I gave him
because I was like, oh, he'llcircle back around.
And he never did it.
And I was like, dang.
Brad (17:58):
He just goes, he's on top of the biosphere, trying to
like, where are the winds?
Like, I don't know how to closethese.
Yeah, that was oh man, that wasgood.
Mimir (18:09):
Um, favorite NPC though, pyra pyra for sure.
Okay.
Wylie (18:12):
Well, you guys spent the most time with her because you
took her to the other base withyou and stuff, so she was really
fun to play.
Brad (18:18):
I'll say her her and Java were very useful in the story.
Yeah, I know.
Or gnar classic gnar.
Classic gnar.
Yeah.
Just, you know, got abducted.
Um I thought it was interestingthough, how like a lot, like I
I was so confused whenever wegot to the other base, and I was
(18:38):
like, what's going on?
What is happening, you know?
Wylie (18:42):
The mystery.
Yeah, when you guys got there.
Yeah, so the listeners couldn'tsee it, but I had the whole all
the rooms of the base werecovered up with um just a
graphic, so they couldn't seewhat was in the different rooms
and stuff, and then as we openedthem up, they got to find the
different clues and stuff alongthe way and and see pictures of
our acid lab and of the I don'tknow if we got one of the ice
(19:02):
lab with the big ice cube in itand stuff.
And yeah.
And of the cool, the cool bladethat we came up with and stuff.
Mimir (19:08):
So I was trying, yeah.
Yeah.
They were immune to fire, so myblade didn't do extra damage,
but it did extra damage toyou guys.
So yeah.
That was that was really fun todo that.
Um there was a point where Iwent full like security, like
notebook out, and then had afull security thing where I was
(19:29):
like drawing lines and stuff,not in real life, but in the
game.
And I feel like at some point Iwhat did I I oh I I I showed uh
Kipo and I was like, I thinkthe people turned into jelly.
Yeah.
And then I think is that whathappened?
I'm yeah, I'm a little stilllike, are were they jelly or
(19:49):
were they just leaving jellybehind them?
Wylie (19:52):
The jelly was the byproduct of the of the creature
from the caverns coming ofgetting connected with them and
then like taking over andmelding its own cells with their
cells.
So I had to leave some clues,and I didn't want it to be too
gory or anything, so I had toleave some clues, and then you
guys decided to eat it, whichwas so funny.
Okay, hold on.
Brad (20:12):
But that was literally under the arcane sickness.
I know, and I was wanting to doit anyway.
I mean, I probably would have,
Kipo (20:19):
but but not as much.
Brad (20:21):
But but for Gordon, it was like he can't stop eating.
That's why he had all thesnacks and everything.
It was eating everything.
And then it said even eatingthings that are not food.
And so when I saw the jelly, Iwas like, well, he would
probably be like, I'm gonna tryit.
Wylie (20:37):
You know, um, you can do what go to the movies and you
can watch the movies where theyserve you food that goes along
with the movie.
Maybe we should create atasting menu for our episodes.
Brad (20:47):
Fireweed jelly.
Wylie (20:48):
There's some fireweed jelly, there's um, there's like
a what it was it jambalaya, orwhat did you make in the end?
Gumbo.
Gumbo.
Um yeah, so there's I thinkthere is food in every episode
that you know there's the trailsnacks that you ate on the way.
Brad (21:03):
I do, I do, I do have family recipe of gumbo, so yeah.
Nice.
Wylie (21:06):
We could totally make a tasting menu.
So the listeners could couldsnack along.
That would be so funny.
Mimir (21:15):
Um really good though.
Wylie (21:16):
I I like the mystery.
Yeah, the mystery was reallygood.
Brad (21:20):
Actually, I do have a question.
The okay.
Uh shoot, what's his name?
Aggro?
Alright.
So he died.
We put him in the shed.
Mimir (21:32):
And then he got turned to jelly, right?
Or got vacuumed up.
Wylie (21:36):
So you guys didn't ever get to witness this, but when um
the like the alien cells uhweren't destroyed.
So his body was dead, but thealien cells weren't destroyed,
so they could separate out andgo and like become they would be
kind of more like a like alittle like mushroom character,
like um, they had the ability toseparate from the body because
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it wasn't burnt in acid.
So as long as it hadn't beenfully destroyed in acid, it
would sprout off legs and limbsand stuff.
And you've got I don't know ifyou witnessed it.
Um yeah.
So back at Istid Jokul, if youhad opened up the vacuum that
was there, Hoover, you wouldhave found a hand that was
(22:18):
Aggro's hand that had sproutedlegs.
Mimir (22:21):
So at some point in the battle, we would have probably
attacked them at that point.
Wylie (22:26):
Yeah, probably would have at tacked the whole base
Mimir (22:30):
That's really interesting.
Wylie (22:32):
Yeah, so that that would have kind of revealed the dead
body parts can still like beanimated and still be a threat
because it's just that these uhmushroom creatures are melding
their DNA with yours and they'rereplicating your DNA, and so
until like the whole you knowgroup is destroyed with acid,
it's still functional.
So did Aggro leave, I guess, inthat yeah, so so that would
(22:55):
have the Aggro lost his handbefore he was fully like taken
over.
Gotcha, gotcha, and then thevacuum got the hand, and then
Aggro eventually was fully takenover and he left to chase the
dog.
Brad (23:08):
Right.
But whenever he got to ourshed, where did he go?
Because we all we saw wasjelly.
Wylie (23:13):
Yeah, so he took over Nar.
Brad (23:16):
Took over who?
Nar.
Wylie (23:18):
Yeah.
When you guys came back, Narhad already been taken over.
So I rolled for the NPCs whileyou guys were gone.
Mimir (23:25):
Best person to be taken over.
Wylie (23:26):
It was, it was.
Honestly, yeah, best person.
And I kind of wanted I wantedto make sure that not everybody
would be taken over because atthis point I really needed Java
to tell you guys about theinfinite gulp.
Brad (23:36):
Right.
i love that.
Mimir (23:37):
Yeah, that we didn't know about that.
Wylie (23:39):
And he definitely would not reveal that if he was taken
over.
So I was like, well, it makessense that Java, he's like, he
was inspired, he's gonna followyour directions, he's gonna keep
the lab locked, he's gonnafollow procedure.
Brad (23:49):
I meant to pick up some kvas for you guys to try.
Mimir (23:53):
See, the interesting part when I I I just want to circle
back.
When I was taking over, I wasgoing between Java or uh Pyra
was the two that I wanted to youwanted to take.
And I couldn't decide which,but then I read that this was
immune to fire, and so I waslike, Pyra is the obvious option
in that brain.
After you, obviously.
(24:14):
You know.
Wylie (24:15):
But you did take over Bojangles.
Mimir (24:17):
I did take over Bojangles.
Wylie (24:19):
Yeah.
So that was one of the initialso immediately he's like, Okay,
I go for bull bojangles, andthen he rolled and you won.
So you took over Bojangles, andyeah, he had you had to do a
Brad (24:30):
So when and where did that happen?
Kipo (24:31):
Dog kennels?
Mimir (24:32):
Yeah, on the way to the dog kennel way to be.
On the way to the I'll go getthe dog real quick.
And then I was like
Wylie (24:42):
And you went into the dog kennels and the dog was
barking, and you kind of coveredit with it was a Bojangles
thing.
Yeah.
Because it was barking at well,I because you think you had
taken Bojangles by that point,but it was barking at both of
you.
Mimir (24:53):
Yeah.
Wylie (24:53):
But but it could have looked like it was just
Bojangles because you bothentered together.
Mimir (24:57):
Yep.
Yeah.
Wylie (24:59):
So then you kind of gave up on the dog plot, you know.
Mimir (25:02):
Well, yeah, I well, because I didn't need it was a
good help, yeah.
I it was gonna only worsen me.
Um yeah.
Yeah, it was it was fun.
Uh I I like being bad uh PvP uma little bit.
Um, and then it was good thatyou guys figured out everything
and just left us, you know.
Kipo (25:20):
I'm just called I could get away.
Yeah, yeah.
It was great.
Mimir (25:23):
That was a great reading of spells.
Kipo (25:25):
I can't believe I picked yeah, picking those spells, uh
they all were great for uh forAlan having um gaseous form to
get away from you, and then alsohad acid splash as a cantrip.
That's huge for this campaign.
Should we have should I don'tthink I use it much, but I I had
it.
Mimir (25:45):
Well, yeah, because I took the jug.
Yeah, as for the So I took theother acid, and then the other
acid person that's who I wasgoing for is and then there was
a defense against that.
Yep.
Kipo (25:56):
It was good, crazy.
It was a good time.
Wylie (26:00):
It was fun trying to figure out how to trickle all
the clues in and not make it toomuch, not too many red herrings
and stuff.
Brad (26:07):
There were so many moments where I was like, what is
happening?
Yeah, how do I figure this out?
Mimir (26:11):
It was such a intense moment in the basement of Jokul,
I believe.
In the cavern.
We were walking back and theywere like circling us.
And I remember you stood in theway of one of them.
Um, and there was like a umsituation where I was like, Oh,
like I said out loud, I waslike, oh, this is a perfect
moment for a trap to happen.
(26:32):
Like an And I'm by myself,you're and then you're in the
front, you know.
And it was like
Kipo (26:38):
Did they think Alan was one of them because he could
just start walking on the walls?
Wylie (26:42):
Um that wasn't that wasn't my mindset.
That wouldn't make sense.
That's really funny.
At that point, you guys wereagreeing to help them.
Mimir (26:48):
Yeah.
Wylie (26:49):
So they they just didn't have it, if we found that hand,
I think we would have hadenough.
Mimir (26:54):
Where was the hand exactly in the vacuum?
Yeah, in their vacuum.
Wylie (26:57):
In their vacuum.
Mimir (26:58):
Yeah, we just didn't have enough clues, like we didn't
put all the clues together oflike I thought I thought it
because I mentioned in one ofthe videos or the videos, the
episodes, yeah, episode uhbehind the scenes, um, where it
was like that Star Trek episode.
Remember?
You did, yeah.
Yeah, you did say that.
And I was like, okay, I'm onthe case, you know, I'm working
(27:19):
it.
But then I was like, I have I iit just went cold of like I
feel like we could fight them,but then I was like, I don't
want to kill like if they werejust actual dumb people, you
know.
Kipo (27:31):
It was a time constraint for the storm that really would
have spent way more time thereif we didn't have that in the
back of our minds.
Mimir (27:40):
We even split up and uh rooms together.
Wylie (27:45):
And I I do remember right after you saw the vacuum for
the first time, you did saysomething about empty the tank.
Yeah, but you guys didn'tactually do it.
Oh yeah so because then youwould have found the hand early
on before you had been down inthe caverns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And initially I wasn't evengonna make there be any staff
left at the base.
Yeah, but at that point we werekind of running into it was
(28:06):
gonna be an awkward length ofepisodes.
Um, so yeah, originally,because just because we had a
split between record weekendsand stuff, um, I ended up making
a whole staff, and they had alittle bit of a snow white and
seven dwarfs vibe too.
Kipo (28:19):
Um I'm glad you did that so that we could just blow them
up in the last episode.
Mimir (28:24):
Yeah, ended wonderfully.
Even though you guys could haveprobably clearly have saved
them, um, but it you know,because you saved everybody at
the end anyway, but then youwent and blew them up anyway.
So it was just like it was justhad to be done.
It was a cool like mini heistand stuff like that, too, that
you guys did.
Wylie (28:41):
Yeah, the mini heist was fun.
I mean the the epic moment whenyou guys turn in the
jet-powered sled to leave.
I just the the whole likecinematics of that just came
together so perfectly.
Brad (28:53):
It went to the body.
There was a small part of methat wanted Gordon just to be
like, do we look cool?
Kipo (28:58):
Is this cool?
I wish Jenny could see this.
Mimir (29:04):
I um it was cool also just like sitting back because I
was just tied up at that point,sitting back and just enjoying
the story, like just listeningand watching you guys uh play
DD, which was a lot of fun.
So I was like, cool, I'm justhanging out now.
You know, I'm off therecording.
Wylie (29:21):
Yeah, uh initially I was kind of thinking with all the
tension that you guys might getup out of the cavern and cave it
in behind you and trap themdown there because you did have
Pyra with you, but it it waslike they let them come up with
you, so the tension was justlike and I as a DM, the tension
was like, oh no, I'm gonna haveto like pilot all of these NPCs
(29:44):
now and like this whole battle,and I did not have full
character sheets for each ofthem or anything.
Kipo (29:49):
He struggled against one mushroom for 30 minutes in the
left.
Oh my gosh.
Mimir (29:56):
Is that why he cut off his hand?
Um because that's what I Ithought.
Wylie (30:00):
Aggro would have cut his hand.
So Aggro was not taken.
He was like he was fightingoff.
Yeah.
Mimir (30:06):
And did one like stick onto his hand and so he cut
that's what I imagined happenedof like because I almost did the
same thing to my own hand whenit was on me.
And I was like, oh no, youknow?
Wylie (30:16):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
It was that that would makesense as a battle wound.
Mimir (30:22):
Yeah.
It was really cool.
I enjoyed it.
Wylie (30:25):
Yeah, and then one of them had a funky leg.
Mimir (30:26):
Yeah.
Wylie (30:27):
Because he had been he had been absorbed by the jelly
cube.
He had lost his foot becausethe acid had eaten through when
he was a normal human.
And then when he didn't have afoot.
And so when the mushroom tookhim over, it was a funky shaped
foot because he was like notsure how to regrow it and it was
like a fake one.
Mimir (30:45):
We almost plugged that too because there was like a
moment where it was like that.
And I was like, oh, but then Iwas like, what is it?
Is it not?
Like I felt like it wasconceivable for them to just
have a like prosthetic foot.
Right?
And I was like, all right,well, okay.
And then you caught the chefthing.
Brad (31:02):
Yeah, that that just stuck out.
Mimir (31:04):
If we had enough time, I think we would have snuck back
in.
Like we would have done yourinvisible plan that we talked
about.
Kipo (31:09):
And then I wonder if they would have talked or if because
they were just kind of braindead, they would have just like
not said anything and justwalked around like because they
were just hanging in the rightcavern.
Like, what else do they have todo?
There's no real tasks.
They're just like
Wylie (31:22):
yeah, because they wouldn't normally communicate
via speech, as you know, as muchas they probably
Kipo (31:27):
would have been in there and Alan would have just saw
them just like not talking toeach other.
And that would have been Imean, that would have been weird
that they're not talking toeach other.
Mimir (31:35):
So one of my favorite quit quotes though, uh from
Hoodwinked, it's like, you can'tarrest somebody from be for
being weird.
And they call it what a movie.
He goes, Oh, well, uh, you knowthat weird guy, and he's like,
You mean the one in the cage?
He's like, Yeah, we shouldprobably let him go.
And I I was thinking that quotewhen we were in that moment, I
(31:56):
was like, I can't just kill thisguy because he's weird.
Kipo (31:59):
It's not a good enough situation.
I love that movie.
Oh, so good.
I love that movie too.
Mimir (32:06):
Um, yeah, it was good.
Oh, it was fun.
Uh good wrap-up.
I felt like everything wasclean and stuff.
Kipo (32:13):
Yeah.
Mimir (32:13):
Um, Pyra got to explode the base.
That's their rate.
Kipo (32:18):
It's always good to make the NPCs happy.
Wylie (32:20):
Yeah.
Fulfill their dreams.
Mimir (32:22):
It was satisfying too.
Um, I felt like that we wereall closer, you know.
Everybody got what they wanted.
Um, I think at that very end, Iwould say that you would have
gotten your all your spice.
Brad (32:33):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Wylie (32:35):
Jared's now seen what real danger looks like.
Brad (32:38):
It's like, I think this is fine.
Mimir (32:40):
Well, and I love the idea that you go back to retiring,
and then I also go back toretiring.
I was like, I'm done, you know?
Kipo (32:48):
And then Gordon just walks off into the distance.
You wake up back intoconsciousness, uh, covered in
acid, just going, Yeah, exactly.
Mimir (32:59):
That'll be the rest of my life.
Yeah.
Wylie (33:01):
You can never eat Jello.
Mimir (33:02):
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's the idea of uh Gordonwalking out at the very end, and
then he accidentally circlesback and he's like, Oh, this is
where I live.
Yeah, yeah.
Brad (33:16):
He's just live, he's very, he's very cyclical, you know.
He just like always comes back.
It's like, yeah, this is thisis my house.
Wylie (33:22):
Yeah.
Brad (33:23):
Uh it's great though.
Wylie (33:24):
Yeah, it was really fun.
I really, really love thecharacters you guys made.
It was it just it was a blast.
I'm gonna miss them when we doour main campaign, but I'm very
confident that you new newcharacters are gonna be just as
fun.
Kipo (33:38):
Let me tell you, I'm just you wait listeners.
Mimir (33:40):
Hey, I'm gonna make somebody cry.
That's my job.
Oh, and that's whether oflaughter or seriousness.
And that's honestly, you guyscould it'll be a win either way.
Yeah, yeah.
Wylie (33:54):
Well, that'll be yeah.
Looking forward to thecampaign.
It's gonna be super, super fun.
And maybe someday we'll have tocome back and revisit these
characters.
Maybe we'll come up withanother side story for them or
something.
Mimir (34:04):
I'll definitely have an idea for one-off for them.
So well, good.
Wylie (34:07):
Yeah, maybe you can DM that one.
That would be fun.
Mimir (34:10):
You can play Pyra.
Wylie (34:11):
Y eah, I could play Pyra full time.
That would be so fun.
Brad (34:13):
That'd be awesome.
Kipo (34:14):
Jared's retired.
Yeah, Jared's number that wefound.
It's it's it's visiting Alan inthe retirement.
Mimir (34:22):
You have to find Alan.
He's a very high-level wizardnow.
Brad (34:30):
That's awesome.
Yep.
Wylie (34:32):
Okay.
Well, thank you guys forplaying and sticking with me
through the first campaign thatI DM'd for you guys.
It was a lot of fun.
And uh, let's let's get torecording season one.
Kipo (34:42):
Yeah, let's do it.
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