Breaking Out of the Matrix with Bruce Lipton

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Stem cell biologist and quantum physics expert, Bruce Lipton, joins me on this episode of the Body Literacy Podcast. Bruce walks us through how subconscious programming creates disease states of the body and mind and how we can empower ourselves to energetically rewire ourselves for health, happiness, and, as he puts it, Heaven on Earth.

As Bruce guides us through quantum physics and human consciousness, you'll be captivated by the idea that our minds have the power to extend beyond the physical realm to manifest our reality. Love, as Bruce explains, isn't just a feeling but a biological state that can have profound effects on our health and relationships. Ever considered how your cells are like a community that's constantly renewing itself? This conversation unveils the stunning parallels between cellular biology and human interaction.

The importance of balance in relationships and self-love is brought to light through an examination of atomic behavior, driving home the message that inner harmony is essential to healthy connections.

You can find Bruce online at https://www.brucelipton.com where he shares his programs and upcoming events and speaking engagements.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
In the movie the Matrix.
What's the premise of the movie?
Everybody is programmed.
That's a fact of life.
Your life was programmed.
In the first seven years yourbrain, operating in theta,
downloaded what you observed.
Your brain was like a videorecorder.

(00:20):
It turns out 60% or more of theprograms you download in that
first seven years aredisempowering, self-sabotaging
and limiting beliefs.
But in the movie you could takea red pill and get out of the
program.
Now comes the biggest questionof all how to change those

(00:42):
programs if you don't like theones you're living.
The biggest question of all howto change those programs if you
don't like the ones you'reliving.
There's no gene that causescancer.
How much of disease is actuallyconnected to genes?
Less than 1%.
We have to change the way weare living on the planet at this

(01:03):
very moment.
That civilization as we know ittoday is going to collapse.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
All right, welcome to the show, Bruce.
I'm so excited to have you ontoday.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I am just as excited as you are.
Even more so, you know, becauseyour audience to me is a very
important audience.
These people out there, all ofyou wonderful people, are
cultural creatives seeking someanswers that are not in the box,
that are necessary at this timeof craziness.
And I just want to emphasizethat this time of craziness is
not actually crazy.

(01:35):
It's anticipated, expected whywe're in an evolutionary
upheaval and this upheaval meanswe're changing civilization or
hoping to change civilization.
And there's a simple reason.
I love it because the math isthis simple that if we want to
keep civilization operating justthe way it is at this minute,

(01:55):
just say okay, just everybody,continue.
It takes 1.6 planet Earth toprovide the resources for
today's civilization.
Well, there's a serious problemright there with the math 1.6
planets we only have one.
Where are we getting the extraresources for that extra 0.6

(02:16):
planet?
And the answer is we'redestroying the environment in
the process of pillaging nature.
At this point, nasa scientistshave told us in a factual
understanding, that civilizationas we know it today is going to
collapse.
And it didn't say collapse, itsaid irreversible collapse.

(02:37):
If you understand the meaning,it says we can't go back to the
way we're doing today, becausethe way we're living today is
causing a problem that we'refacing right now.
So there's an evolution, andthe evolution says we have to
change the way we are living onthe planet at this very moment
and understanding who we are andmaybe finally getting back to

(02:59):
the reality that people havelost sight of, reality that
people have lost sight of.
We are nature.
We came from nature.
We can only exist becausenature exists, because that was
the environment we evolved in.
As we're destroying nature,it's threatening the human
population.
But let me a very importantpoint.
Civilizations have been herebefore and have collapsed.

(03:22):
It doesn't mean that all thepeople go, but the way we live
on the planet will changeprofoundly in order for us to
survive and the followers onthis dear station, with our dear
Jennifer up here, is that weare going to change and we now
have to look at what are thenecessary things we need to do

(03:46):
to move into the future andthrive into that future.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Well, you know, and I think you know, the funny thing
is science is supposed to bethe study of nature and it seems
to have evolved into man'squest to dominate nature.
And it seems like the more wego on that path, the further we
get from nature and the worsethings get.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes, obviously, because it's always that simple
question How's that working out?
How are we doing here?
I say well, the web of life iscollapsing because of human
behavior.
And it says we are the sourceof the problem.
First of all, let's understand.
Nature is a garden, and what Imean by a garden is that in a

(04:29):
garden, all the species live inharmony.
That's what a garden is about.
So the idea of a garden iscooperation.
And yet we've designed a worldwhere the primary motivation is
competition, and I go.
Well, that's where the problemcomes from Competing.
No, we're supposed to be livingin harmony with, and we're

(04:52):
failing to do that, and this isaffecting us in so many
different ways, from agricultureto medicine and everything it
says.
Wait, maybe our behavior has tobe reconsidered, and in fact,
this is so necessary in sciencebecause there's a renaissance.
I go what do you mean?
I said a change in thefundamental nature of what
science, and especially medicine, is all about.

(05:14):
I go, what do you mean?
I go well, basically, ourbelief systems have been way off
, out of balance and we have tocome back in.
So the garden?
The garden is cooperation.
We're living in competition.
Well, the first thing is wehave to change that
understanding and we're in theprocess right now of doing that.
And you look around and go well, look at all the chaos.

(05:35):
I go.
Well, here's a simple fact.
So I don't want people to beafraid.
What do you mean afraid?
I say well, civilization iscollapsing.
A lot of people are like oh myGod, the sky is falling and I go
no, you don't understand what'sgoing on here.
What's going on right now is wehave to change the nature of
civilization.

(05:56):
And we cannot fix the existenceof the way we live.
Why?
Because that's the cause of theproblem.
No matter how many band-aidsyou want to put on the world to
try to fix it, it doesn't workand therefore we have to
actually move into a change.
So I said well, what does thatmean?
I said, well, the currentcivilization, by evolutionary

(06:17):
understanding, has to collapseand build a new version of
civilization.
Buckminster Fuller was afuturist who told us very simply
don't go into the system andfight the system.
Step outside the system, builda new system and then the people
will come to the new system.

(06:37):
Well, that's actually happening,especially in regard to
medicine.
Think about it.
How long ago was it we startedto move from conventional
allopathic into complementary orintegrated medicine?
I say well, that's a profounddifference.
I say why?
Because the old story is genescontrol your life.

(06:57):
You're a physical machine andif it's not working right, we
need to do some physicaladjustment, give you some drugs
and things like that.
And basically now we're turningwait a minute.
That was based on an old idea ofphysics called Newtonian
physics.
I go.
You know, we all heard that Igo.
What's profound Newtonianphysics?

(07:17):
The universe is divided intotwo separate realms matter and
energy and they don't interactwith each other.
So what was made out of matteris affected by matter.
What is ever made out of energyis affected by energy.
I say so what?
And I said well, when we lookat a human body, it's matter.
I said so what does that mean?
Conventional understanding theonly way you can repair matter

(07:41):
was other matter.
Right, I go, what's othermatter?
I go the pharmaceutical companythey make physical drugs for
your physical body.
I go, that was cool, exceptthat whole understanding of
physics is completely wrong.
I go what do you mean?
Because matter is an illusion.
Oh, now, that's Lipton's crazy.

(08:02):
I'm sitting here on my ownplace, sitting on a chair,
looking at a screen.
I live in a room and I, what doyou mean?
It's not matter, I can see itall I matter.
I go, that's an illusion.
I love it.
Einstein's quote is reality ismerely an illusion, albeit a
persistent one.

(08:23):
And the point about that iswhat?
And I say what's the differencebetween the physics that we
were just talking, newtonian,and the new physics, quantum?
And I said well, I'll tell youwhat the difference is.
When we look at matter, we talkabout atoms.
And then when we say atoms, oh,they're made out of smaller
particles, which are protons,neutrons, electrons and all that

(08:44):
stuff.
And then we just found matterto be smaller and smaller.
But when the reality came in,that well, what's at the bottom
of all of it?
What's the bottom?
You take that atom fully apart,you take that electron or
proton apart and you find quarks.
I go, oh, yes, well, there'ssmaller particles.
I go, yeah, but where do youtake those apart?
There's nothing physical insidean atom.

(09:08):
An atom is an energy vortex,like a tornado of energy.
And the idea.
I say, so what about it?
I say, well, energy isinvisible, folks, number one,
and that everything is energy,number two, so that means
everything interacts witheverything?
I go, yes, it does.
And what we left out of thestory is the most important part

(09:29):
of the new physics.
I say, what is it?
The new physics talks aboutenergy.
Everything is energy.
We're in energy fields, and Igo so what are energy fields?
I say, well, these arebroadcast energies.
Everything is energy.
I go so what?
Well, then, everything isconnected to each other.
In other words, the body isenergy and it's affected by

(09:51):
energy.
Right, you go, oh, energy,what's energy?
That's invisible forces.
Okay, let's clear up a point,because obviously I look at your
beautiful face, I look at mine.
Oh, mine's not as beautiful andsome hair could be good.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
But I think you're doing all right.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
The difference is simply this I see you, you see
me, I see a physical worldbehind me and all this stuff
like that.
And then I say, well, if energyis invisible, then how could I
see you?
And that's really a goodquestion starting.
And the answer is and I say itand I love it because when I say
it to the audience they allgiggle.
I say no, this is a fact.

(10:29):
I say you can see me becausethe lights are on.
No, no, you don't get it.
I'll tell you why you don't getit.
Light are photons of energy, andso you're being bombarded with
a photon array of sunlight orinterior light.
Your light photons are hittingyou and so you're being
bombarded with a photon array ofsunlight or interior light.
Your light photons are hittingyou and I go.
But you're an energy body.

(10:51):
I go, yeah, so what?
And I say photons are deflectedback.
When they hit your body,they're reflected back.
So when you're looking at me orthe beautiful woman I'm next to
over here, recognize this.
Without light, you can't see us.
With light, you see us, notbecause you see us, but because

(11:11):
the veneer of photons boom,hitting me are being pushed back
to you and you see a layer ofphotons.
I say, what's under that layerof photons?
They say, well, that'sinvisible energy matter, body, a
body is invisible.
I go oh, come on.
I go.
Hey wait, you know whathappened with the new physics?
We had new scan systems CATscans, mri scans, positron scans

(11:34):
.
I go.
So what I said?
Well, they visualize the body.
You can actually look rightthrough the body and see stuff.
I go well, let's start with apremise that we have to
understand.
These devices do not see light,they only read energy but,
energy is invisible, yeah, butan energy scan can be visualized

(11:54):
by translating back into lightagain.
So when you see a scan of ahuman body with a CAT scan, oh
yeah, there's the lungs, theliver, the bones, the muscles,
blah, blah, blah.
You lungs, the liver, the bones, the muscles, blah, blah, blah.
You're not looking at anythingphysical.
The scan doesn't see physical,it only sees energy.
So this is what you really looklike You're an energy field

(12:16):
which is invisible, but thephotons of light actually
illuminate that energy field byreflecting back.
Okay, so we have to understandthat.
And I go.
So why is this important?
Well, what do we talk aboutenergy?
Well, there's two kinds ofenergy Waves that just go on and
on and on, like broadcast waves, okay, but there's some

(12:37):
energies that spin like atornado.
And I say, oh, there's twodifferent versions waves or
spinning.
Well, the spinning ones, like atornado, actually have a force
to them that you can feel.
I said what do you mean?
Well, look, a tornado, you seeit, because it's got all the
dirt and dust and that column ofdirt and dust that's going
through space.

(12:58):
I go the tornado is not thedirt and dust, the tornado is
the force invisible, right, Ifyou filter out the dirt and dust
of a tornado, it's invisible.
I go, but it might be invisible.
But try and drive your carthrough a tornado and the answer
is there's no way that's goingto happen because the tornado

(13:19):
force is so great it will liftup your car and throw it away.
Right, Wait, there's a force.
Yeah, you try and push on thetornado, it pushes back.
Right, you push on an atom, itpushes back, yeah.
So I say well, how can I besitting in a chair right here,
when a chair is made out ofenergy and I'm made out of

(13:41):
energy, why don't I just fallthrough?
And the answer is this theatoms that make up a chair, all
atoms, nanotornadoes but youcollectively take all the atoms
making up the chair and there'sa force strong enough that when
you sit on that chair, the forceof the atoms, the little
tornadoes, the force of them,holds you up.

(14:04):
If you touch something and youfeel physical, it's only because
whatever you were just touchingwas made out of atoms, and
atoms are energy fields,vortexes.
So when you push on the wall,it feels very solid.
I said, yeah, but if you takeit apart, they're atoms.
If you take those apart.
They're only energy.
So let me give a quote, and ifyou get this quote, this is so

(14:28):
fundamental to everything in ourworld and it comes from Albert
Einstein, so I'm going to quotethe good guy here.
And the quote is the field isthe sole governing agency of the
particle.
Let me go.
The field, oh, the invisibleenergy.
Okay, is the sole governingagency of the particle.

(14:50):
What's the particle?
Another form of energy, it's adifferent energy.
Okay, so the invisible fieldsare shaping what we see as the
visible field.
Okay, and you go.
Okay, I'll give you an example.
I use it in my lecture.
If you take a piece of iron andyou file it down, you get a
pile of iron dust Iron filings,they're called.

(15:13):
You put those iron filings in asalt shaker, you sprinkle them
on a piece of paper and you geta pile of iron filings, just
random pile.
Every time you do it, randompile.
Iron filings, just random pile.
Every time you do it, randompile.
But if you put a magnetunderneath that paper and then
you sprinkle the iron filings,it's not random anymore, it's in

(15:36):
that beautiful array called themagnetic field.
I say so, what's the difference,with or without the magnet?
I say, well, there's no field.
That's random.
But when I have a field, I'veorganized the matter.
I go oh, isn't that the quote?
I go, yeah, the field is thesole governing agency of matter.

(16:00):
Well, we're a matter, but we'regoverned by our fields.
I say, what fields are there?
I say, well, there's all kindsof fields, but maybe perhaps the
one we should talk about, themost important one, is your mind
, is a broadcast of fields,right?
Well, yeah, put wires on aperson's head, eeg
electrocephalograph.
I could read your brain action.
Well, brain action iselectromagnetic fields.
That's what the brain does.

(16:21):
Neurons fire no, they fire,they're generating electric
fields.
That's what the brain does.
Neurons fire no, they fire,they're generating electric
fields.
That's what firing is all about.
So I could read your brainactivity by putting wires up
here, by conducting the electricfields to the skin, and I could
read your brain activity.
Everybody goes, yeah, inside myhead, all of this energy is
going on.
Then I go aha, in addition toelectromagnetic acet graph, the

(16:46):
EEG with wires on your head.
I could read your brain functionwith another probe.
And I go what do you mean?
I said the probe is out here.
I said what is the reading?
It's calledmagnetoencephalograph, not
electroencephalograph.
It reads the magnetic fields, Igo.
So why is that important?
Because it reads brain activity, I go yeah, but why is that
important?

(17:06):
The probe is out here, right?
So logically, let's concludesomething your thoughts are not
contained in your head.
Your brain is a tuning fork.
Right it sends out vibrations,but vibrations interact with
vibrations.
So what does that mean?

(17:26):
Your brain is generating afield and the field is the sole
governing agency of matter.
Your brain is governing thematerial expression of your body
, you change the electromagneticfields, you change the
consciousness and you change thebody.
Well, this is physics, I go.
Well, let me emphasize itbefore I make a jump.

(17:47):
And the emphasis is this themost valid, truthful of all the
sciences that we know on earthtoday is quantum physics.
Most predictive of all thesciences, I go.
So why is that important?
You ready?
Principle number one from 1927to today the mind is the creator

(18:09):
of our life experiences,exactly.
And all of a sudden it sayswell, if your life experiences
aren't that happy, where do youwant to go?
Look for where the problem is.
And the answer is oh, theproblem is Quantum physics.
The problem started here.
Newtonian physics oh, theproblem started out there.
Right, exactly.

(18:30):
People walking around saying, oh, my life is interfered with by
these and this and these people,and they're all interfering
with me and I go.
You are a creator.
You allow them to interferewith you, with your creation.
Right right, interfere with youwith your creation, right, right

(18:51):
, uh, let's summarize this formy, my audience here, for a
simple thing, because mostpeople have seen the movie the
matrix.
Yeah, I go.
Oh, if you go to the videostore when I used to have them,
uh, you say where's the matrix?
I say, oh, it's in sciencefiction.
And I go, okay, today's videostore, if we had had them.
I say where's the matrix?
It's in documentaries.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Right, what do you mean?
Documentaries?
Exactly, I go why?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Because what's the premise of the movie?
The premise of the movie iseverybody is programmed.
Yeah, well, that's science,folks.
Why your life was programmed inthe first seven years of your
life?
Because your brain was actingin a state of hypnosis in

(19:32):
childhood time.
I say why?
Because how is an infant tolearn the rules of living in a
family and the rules of livingin the community?
I say what do you mean?
I say well, there's thousandsof rules you have to live by.
You can't make up your ownrules for life.
So I say, well, how do youlearn the rules?
I say, well, there's thousandsof rules you have to live by.
You can't make up your ownrules for life, right?
So I said, well, how do youlearn the rules?
I said well, if you're an infant, you can't go to school, can't
read the book.
How do you know?

(19:54):
Right, nature created the firstseven years of your life where
your brain is not at the levelof consciousness.
Your brain has a lowervibration putting those wires on
your head, eeg.
The lower vibration is calledtheta.
It's just below consciousness.
And I said, well, what is theta?
Well, I say it's characterizedby imagination.

(20:14):
I go.
That's why kids under sevenreadily mix the imaginary world
and the real world and make itone.
I said what do you mean?
I said, well, I'm sure Jennifer, maybe, when she was young, had
tea.
I said what do you mean?
Oh well, we poured the tea.
Nothing into the cup, nothing,we drank nothing.

(20:37):
It was the best tea we ever had.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Exactly Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Or if you're one of those that were riding on a
broom and saying this is a horse, and I say in your mind Theta,
it is a horse, it's imaginationbecoming real.
Now your mom says give me thebroom.
And you look at her like whatare you talking about?
Why, because in that moment itis not a broom.

(21:06):
In theta imagination it hasbecome a horse.
Okay, so first, seven years,theta oh, I didn't tell you this
.
Oh, theta is hypnosis.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
And I go.
So why is that important?
I said, well, how do you thinkyou learn to be a member of a
family and how you learned tolive in this world out here?
And I said, in the first sevenyears your brain, operating in
theta, downloaded what youobserved.
Your brain was like a videorecorder.
It looks at your mom, your dad,records the video of their

(21:41):
behavior into your hard drive,subconscious and it becomes a
program.
And this is a program ofbehavior that you learn by
observing from other people.
So where'd you get yourbehavior from?
Not from you.
You got it from your parents,family and community in the
first seven years of downloading.
And this controls your life.

(22:03):
I go.
Why?
My conscious mind?
That's the creative one that'sme, that's spirit, that makes me
individual, subconsciousdatabase, hard drive programs.
Why can't I run my life?
In my conscious mind I say,well, you can, but you don't
Right, why don't I?

(22:24):
Science has recognized that theconscious mind, of course, does
two different things.
It could look out your eyes.
Pretend you're a vehicle andyour body is driving down the
street.
Your eyes are looking out thewindshield and your conscious
mind got the hands on the wheel.
And where is the conscious mindgoing Wherever you want it to
go Wishes and desires.
That's great.
But then part two consciousmind's other function, thinking.

(22:48):
Okay, hey, virginia, today isTuesday.
You want to tell me what you'redoing on Thursday.
Now, I don't believe she hasthat written right in front of
her right now, but, jennifer,you could probably tell me what
you're going to do on Thursdayafter what.
Thinking about it, right Well,thinking, I said where's that?
I said where'd you get theanswer of what you're doing on

(23:10):
Thursday?
Oh, I thought.
I said where's the thoughtInside?
I said wait a minute.
If I'm driving the vehicle andI start thinking, then I'm not
looking out the window, becausenow my consciousness is looking
for what am I doing on Thursday?
Right, well, you actually dothis.
And if you've been driving thecar for a while not a beginner,

(23:32):
guess what?
When you start thinking, areyou looking at the windshield of
your vehicle, the real vehicle,the driving vehicle?
I say no, when you're thinking,you're still looking inside.
I go.
Then who's driving the car?
I go.
Driving the car is a program.
You learn how to drive a car.
So if I want to drive a car, Idon't have to do it manually, I

(23:53):
can push programs.
Subconscious, subconsciousdrives the car.
Now he goes.
Why is this so relevant?
And the answer is thatscientists have recognized that
virtually everybody thinks about95% of the day.
So what?
Well, if you're thinking,you're not looking out the

(24:15):
window for your life, right?
I say well, that doesn't meanyou're just standing there like
dumbfounded.
You're still doing, walking,talking, driving, whatever I go.
Why?
Because the subconsciousprograms you learn how to do the
repetitive things that you knowhow to do.
So when you are thinking, yourlife is not controlled by your

(24:36):
creative conscious mind, whichis inside, looking.
Your life is controlled by theprograms.
Yeah, but I said, but where'dyou get the programs from Other
people?
Then all of a sudden, I say, ohmy God, when I am thinking, my
subconscious programs areplaying.
And the point about it is thiswhen we are thinking, we're not

(24:57):
observing our own behavior,right.
So I say, why is that important?
Because it turns out 60% ormore of the programs you
download in that first sevenyears are disempowering,
self-sabotaging and limitingbeliefs.
Yeah, and then all of a suddenI say, well then is your life

(25:17):
run by your conscious, creativemind?
I say, no, it's run by theprogram.
Right, right, personal story,true, okay, my father and mother
had a very dysfunctionalrelationship.
But I'm a kid and I'mdownloading my father's behavior
.
What do you think I downloaded?
I say what was the consequence?

(25:39):
I said I couldn't get arelationship off the ground for
40 plus years.
I go why not?
Because once I got into arelationship and my father's
programming because I wasthinking and my father's
behavior came out.
My partner didn't see mythinking.
My partner saw my program andthat program, being

(26:00):
dysfunctional, is like okay,bruce, see you around.
Why?
Because I didn't see that thebehavior I was playing was not
creating a relationship, it wasdestroying relationships.
Okay, so then I say so what wasthe point?
95% of my life was coming fromprogramming.
I didn't see it.
All I knew is I couldn't get arelationship.

(26:22):
It turns out that wasprogramming.
Okay, and I go.
So why is this relevant?
I say so, guess what?
Hey, the movie the Matrix isthat You're all programming.
I go yeah, well, that's a factof life, right, and I love this
part.
You're ready for this part?
This is cool.
But in the movie you could takea red pill and get out of the
program, exactly.

(26:43):
I go guess what?
Almost everybody out here rightnow.
Every one of you out here hastaken that red pill at one time
and got out of the program withthe most amazing experience.
Exactly I said when was thatScience has recognized?
When you fall in love, you stopthinking.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Then you stay present .
Yeah, I mean it makes logic.
You stop thinking, then youstay present.
I mean it makes logic.
If you've been looking forsomebody your whole life and
they show up, why would you bethinking back here and not being
here?
So when you fall in love, youstop thinking.
I go, yeah, but what does thatmean?
You ready, here it goes.
Well, then you're not engagingthe program.
I go yeah, that's true.
I say then what's controllingyour life?

(27:25):
I say the conscious mind.
It's not thinking.
I say isn't that the mind withcreativity, wishes and desires?
I go yes.
And so what do you thinkhappened?
You fell in love and youcreated the honeymoon?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yep, and I will say so most people know that are
most familiar, I think, withyour book the Biology of Belief,
which is amazing, but theHoneymoon Effect was actually
the first book of yours that Iread in.
My marriage was troubled atthat point in time and my mom
introduced me to it and it wasjust like this light bulb moment

(27:59):
of understanding how ourrelationships with other people
impact our own physical healtheven and what like an eye opener
that was.
Can you tell us like what arethe dynamics of the energy and
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Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, well, let's just talk about this.
Based on some research I did 50years ago and I was cloning
stem cells.
So, very quickly a stem cellit's another name for embryonic
cell the moment before you wereborn.
If I did a histological look atsome cells and I said, oh,
that's an embryo cell, if Iwaited a minute after you were

(30:37):
born, did the same thing andlooked at the same cell, I'd say
, oh, that's a stem cell.
So basically I say, why?
Because your body is made outof 50 trillion cells.
You say, oh, I'm a singleentity.
I am Bruce.
I go yeah, but Bruce is acommunity of 50 trillion cells.
And I say the cells are theliving entity.
Bruce, by definition, is acommunity of living cells.

(31:00):
Yeah, I go.
So what?
So I say, well, guess what?
While we've been talking, everysecond we lost up to 3 million
cells.
I go what?
Yeah, 3 million cells die aboutevery second, 1 to 3 million.
I go.
So what's the point?
I say how long can you live ifyou keep losing 3 million cells

(31:21):
every second?
I go well, you would die, thatwould be true, but you're still
here.
I say, well, how come?
I said because every time youlose a cell.
A stem cell replaces the deadcell.
So you stay at the same level.
I'm losing 3 million, I'mmaking 3 million.
Where Stem cells?
So what are stem cells?
Embryonic cells, so what?

(31:42):
So here's what I did.
So this changes the world forme and then led to a whole new
understanding of biology andhealth.
I said what was it?
I put one stem cell in a Petridish.
That's called cloning.
I said why?
Because that cell divides every10 or 12 hours.
So I got one cell and then 10,12 hours later, two cells, 10 to

(32:02):
12 hours later, four cells andit doubles.
And it doubles At the end ofthe week.
My culture dish started with onecell but now has 30,000 cells
in it.
I go so what's unique?
I say well, they all came fromone parent.
I have 30,000 geneticallyidentical cells.
We grow cells in somethingcalled culture medium and I'm

(32:25):
going to come back to thisbecause this is the ultimate
secret of life, but I'll give itto you simply.
First, I say I grow cells inculture medium in the lab.
Culture medium is whatLaboratory version of blood,
that's what cells live in theblood.
I say okay.
So I say I make the culturemedium recipe, but I can change
a couple of the ingredients,which I did.

(32:45):
So I take the dish 30,000genetically identical cells,
split them into three dishes.
Okay, I said what's thedifference?
Well, all dishes geneticallythe same, but I make a slight
chemical difference in theculture, medium, the fluid in
which the cells live.
So I have three differentculture medium, abc.

(33:06):
So I say, in dish one,environment A, the cells form
muscle.
In dish two, slightly differentenvironment B, the cells form
bone.
And in dish three, slightlydifferent environment, and the
cells form fat cells.
Well, I was teaching medicalstudents genes control life.

(33:27):
And then in the lab, what didthe cells just show me?
Think of what it just said thefate of the cell was not
determined by the genes.
They all had the same genes.
It was determined by theenvironment that was selecting
the gene activity.
I go then genes didn't control.
I say no, that's a false beliefwe've carried for 50 years.

(33:51):
Somebody once said genes turnon and turn off.
I go what is a gene?
It's a blueprint to make aprotein.
We have 100,000 proteins and weneed blueprints to replace them
, because proteins break down.
They're what give you yourbiology the proteins.

(34:12):
So you have to replace theproteins.
Well, you need a blueprint.
That's called a gene.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
It's a blueprint, so why am I emphasizing?
Go into an architect's officeand she's working on a blueprint
.
You ask her hey, is yourblueprint on or off?
She would look at you like, hey, man, what are you crazy?
It's a blueprint.
There's no on and off to ablueprint.
Jeans do not turn on and off.

(34:42):
Jeans are red or not red.
Who's the reader?
I go not the genes, the mind.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
The mind sends chemistry to the cells in the
blood.
Oh, here it comes.
My research was cells in aplastic dish with culture medium
.
You are a skin covered Petridish.
Yeah, you got 50 trillion cellsunder your skin and they have

(35:15):
the original culture mediumblood.
And I go does it make adifference if the cells in the
plastic dish or the skin dish?
I go, nope, it's stillcontrolled by the environment.
In the case of the body, it'sthe blood.
So I say so the chemistry ofthe blood was the chemistry of
the culture medium.
I go yeah, now comes aninteresting fact the brain's the

(35:37):
chemist.
Yeah, it determines whatchemistry is going to be in the
body and which, you know whichgenes are going to be activated.
Now comes the biggest questionof all that blows everything out
of the water.
So what chemistry should thebrain put into the blood?
And it turns out you ready.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Whatever picture you hold in your mind, the brain's
job is to translate that pictureinto complementary chemistry
that matches the picture.
So if I have a picture of love,I release great chemistry,
dopamine, pleasure.
That's why we love to be inlove.
Pleasure, oxytocin, bonding toyour lover, growth hormone oh,

(36:23):
what does that do?
It says what it does itenhances our growth, right.
So I say, a picture of lovegives you pleasure and vitality.
When people fall in love, theyglow.
Oh, look how in love they are,see how healthy they are.
I go.
That's not an accident, that'schemistry, right.
I go so what I say well, wait,what if I have a picture of fear
?
I go.
So what I say well, wait, whatif I have a picture of fear, I

(36:45):
go.
You don't release lovechemistry In fear, you release
stress chemistry.
Stress chemistry like cortisolor factors that inhibit your
immune system I go.
Why?
Because that takes a differentresponse than love and therefore
you change the function of thebody by which chemistry you just

(37:06):
released into the body In love,I'm in growth, in fear, I'm in
protection.
I say that you can't be in bothat the same time.
Why?
Growth is open, assimilate.
You want food, eat it.
You want love, take it in.
Protection is not open.

(37:26):
Protection is close it off,roll it off, keep me away.
I say, well, growth is open andprotection is closed.
You can't be in growth andprotection at the same time.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Right, and how has that dynamic of either being in
growth or protection, or love orfear, how has that played out,
do you think, especially inrecent years?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
in terms of people's health.
Yeah well, let's give a verysimple thing.
There's something called thebiological imperative.
People go what the hell is that?
Oh, it's the drive to survive.
Biologists know it exists, butthey have never been able to
pinpoint.

(38:12):
Where is it, this drive?
Well, here's the problem.
Bacteria have this drive.
I go.
What do you mean?
You try to kill a bacterium.
It's not going to go.
Oh, okay, kill me.
No, the bacterium is going todo everything to try and stay
alive.
What drives that?
The biological imperative?
We now know it's an energyfield that does that.

(38:35):
But let's just go back andrecognize, just say what it is.
We are driven to survive If weare threatened.
The mechanism of the body is toengage protection, unconsciously
.
It has nothing to do with you.
Let's engage some protection.
No, you're in fear.
It's going to engage protection.
Okay, so I go.

(38:56):
So why is it doing it?
I said well, the chemistry ofthe body puts you into
protection, I go.
So what does that mean?
It shuts off growth and itshuts off the immune system.
I go.
Well, that's protection to walloff things.
But why should it shut off theimmune system?
I go.
Well, let me give you the wholestory right here very quickly,

(39:17):
if I can, and that is simplythis In a resting state where we
are now very happy and I cansee Jennifer's dreaming in a
restful state right now, and Icould see Jennifer's dreaming in
a restful state right now I go.
This is really cool Because inthat state the body is being
encouraged to take care ofitself and replenish the
resources, repair damage.
I said what part of my body istaking care of my health and my

(39:39):
vitality?
I said the gut, why, this iswhere the organs are.
We're bringing nutrition in.
Why this is where the organsare.
We're bringing nutrition in.
Take out waste product, fixeverything here.
So okay, here's the littlesecret.
It's very important.
Every bodily function takesenergy.
I said where do you get theenergy from?
I said, ah, the blood carriesthe energy.

(40:02):
All the building blocks, theenergy, it's oxygen, food.
It's all in the blood.
So I say, wherever the blood is, then those organs are being
given energy to do their job.
So here's the story Right now,in a resting state, where do you
think your blood is?
It's in your gut, all theorgans here.

(40:24):
And I say, yeah, that'smaintaining all my functions.
But what happens if thesaber-toothed tiger is chasing
me.
I need to get him protection.
I say yeah, but protection?
What organs do I need toprotect myself?
A pancreas, a gallbladder?
No, arms and legs.
I need to be able to run, fightor flight.

(40:45):
So I say, oh well, most of theblood is here in the gut.
So in the textbook it says whenstress hormones are released
into the body, the blood ispreferentially sent to the arms
and legs to encourage whatEnergy to run.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, to survive rather than thrive.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
How did you get the blood from the gut to the arms
and legs?
Stress hormones shut the bloodvessels in the gut.
When they squeeze the bloodvessels in the gut, the blood is
pushed to the arms and legs.
So the moment you're in fearwhich is a stress you can
actually feel the blood vesselsdoing it.

(41:27):
Why it's called queasy.
I feel queasy or I feelbutterflies in my stomach.
I say what's that Fluttering ofthe blood vessels squeezing
like this?
Okay, you can feel it and yourblood now getting out to your
arms and legs.
Well, what about your gut?
I said, well, it's off duty,why it has no energy right now.

(41:48):
But the muscles are, they'reready to go, run from that saber
tooth tiger Right.
Okay.
So I say, well that.
So all of a sudden I say what'sthe first thing of stress?
It shuts down the maintenanceof the body and pushes the blood
to the arms and legs.
Number two you have an immunesystem.
Yeah, that protects me from thethreats on the inside.
The adrenal system protects mefrom that damn saber-toothed

(42:10):
tiger on the outside.
Let's put a situation you havea bacterial infection, you could
be having a case of diarrheacoming and you're being chased
by a saber-toothed tiger.
How do you want to split theenergy?
How much should I fight thosebacteria and how much should I
put the blood in the arms andlegs to run away from the tiger?

(42:33):
No brainer folks, the hell withthe bacteria.
If the tiger catches you, thebacteria is not your problem
anymore, you know.
So what's the point?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Stress, hormones, and I think we're seeing like so
much gut dysfunction and itsrelationship to these chronic
disease states.
That's right, like this shouldbe like very obvious to all
doctors and everybody in themedical field, but it seems like
you know that's getting lost intranslation and the stress
hormones shut off the immunesystem to conserve the energy.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Because look when you were sick.
Sometimes you're so sick youdon't have the energy to get out
of bed.
Ha ha, that means when theimmune system is really working,
it uses so much energy that youmay not get out of bed.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
So if I'm being chased by a saber-toothed tiger,
I don't need to energize my gut, right, I need to run.
So the immune system is shutdown by stress hormones.
And I want to show you howimportant it is.
When doctors want to transplantan organ from person A and put
it into person B, they don'twant the recipient's immune

(43:42):
system to reject the organ whenthey put it in there.
They give the recipient stresshormones before the operation
because that inhibits the immunesystem, so that the graft is
not going to be immediatelyrejected.
So they use stress hormones toshut off the immune system.

(44:05):
So I say two things have justhappened One, I shut down the
growth and maintenance of thebody and fear.
Number two, I shut off theimmune system and fear, and fear
causes you to make responsereal fast.
Well, conscious thinking, theone that thinks, is slow
compared to reaction.
I say conscious thinking isfrom the conscious mind,

(44:28):
reaction is from the programmedsubconscious mind.
So guess what, when I'm in astate of fear, I need to make
reaction responses, not thinking.
I need to go, not thinking,okay.
So the stress hormones, rememberI said they shut the blood
vessels in the gut Yep, andsqueeze the blood vessels in the

(44:50):
forebrain shut, why?
I don't need the blood toenergize thinking.
I need the blood to go back tothe hindbrain to energize
reaction, right?
So guess what?
We also become less intelligentwhen we're in fear, right?
So what's the result?
Three things.
Number one you shut down growthand maintenance of the body.

(45:11):
Number two you shut off theimmune system.
Number three you shut offconscious creativity.
These are results of stresshormones.
Okay, yeah, in the field wealways put disease.
Oh, there's something wrongwith the mechanism, oh, your
organs aren't working right,your genes are not working right
.
And I say, well, how much ofdisease is actually connected to

(45:35):
genes Ready?
Less than 1%, right?
Less than 1% of all illness onthis planet has anything to do
with defective genes.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
And what role do you think?
I mean?
The Human Genome Project was,you know, a fascinating
discovery and revelation inscience, but at the same time,
what role did that play increating this victim
consciousness around people'shealth?

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Well, the first thing of victim consciousness is if
you inherited the gene, you'vealso inherited the problem.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Okay, and therefore, when we look at things that run
in families cancer, diabetes,heart conditions we oh, they're
running in the family.
What's passed?
When we run in the family tothe offspring, the genes are
passed.
Oh, well then cancer must begenes and heart disease must be

(46:37):
genes and diabetes must be genes.
No, folks, it turns out it'sprogramming that has passed from
generation to generation.
That first seven years, becausethis sets your biology and your
behavior.
If you have a misprogram, thenyou have misfunction in your

(46:57):
life.
That's a consequence of that.
Okay, so I said you know what?
Let's start with this premisethat people just like don't know
.
I'll tell you right now.
You know what.
Let's start with this premisethat people just like don't know
.
I'll tell you right now there'sno gene that causes cancer.
What do you mean?
I've got the oncogenes breastcancer gene.
Oh, my God, I go.
They don't cause cancer,they're correlated with cancer.

(47:17):
Right, I go.
What do you mean?
I said the cause wasn't thegene, the cause was the behavior
that was dysfunctional thatthen activated the gene.
I go, what do you mean?
So let's give a simple.
You get this understanding.
It changes everything.
You ready?
Yeah, they were looking at whatis the fate of a child, a baby,

(47:39):
an infant, adopted into afamily where there's cancer
running in the family.
The adopted child is going toget the same family cancer.
I go yeah but the adopted childhas totally different genetics.
I go aha.
What was the point?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
The culture medium was the same.
The culture medium was exactlyit.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
What is passed to the child, what is downloaded to
the child.
That behavior is what controlsthe genes.
It's called epigenetics.
It's the revolution Genetics.
You're a victim, why you didn'tpick the genes.
As far as you know, you can'tchange them if you don't like
them, and then they turn on andoff by themselves.
You're under the control ofgenes.

(48:21):
You're a victim.
Epigenetics epi above Skin,epidermis.
What does it mean?
Just below the skin layercalled dermis?
What is skin Just above thedermis?
Epidermis?
Epi means above.
Epigenetics means control abovethe genes.
I go.
What is it?
The brain consciousness?

(48:43):
I go.
How does it do it?
I said we just described it,but I'll remind you.
The brain takes your thoughts,turns them into complementary
chemistry in the blood, whichthen goes to 20, 50 trillion
cells okay and regulates theirgenetics.
It's called epigenetics controlabove the gene.

(49:06):
It's a revolution Geneticsvictim, epigenetics master, why?
You're the one that controlsthe chemistry of the growth
medium.

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Speaker 1 (50:24):
And all of a sudden it says well then, stop being a
victim and start understandingyou are the one that controls
your health.
I go through what?
Through your consciousness.
I go where's the problem?
90% or more, which it is, ofdisease at this moment in the
world's healthcare crisis, 90%is all stress.

(50:46):
All stress related Stress isgenerated by your consciousness.
So all of a sudden, I go well,then I'm creating it.
I go well, look, when was thewhole idea of stress evolving?
Oh, 100,000, 200,000 years ago.
And I go well, what were weafraid of?
The saber toothtoothed tiger?

(51:08):
What else?
Are you afraid of the monkey?
No, are you afraid of theearthworm?
No, you're afraid of thesaber-toothed.
Yes, I say so what?
When did you use your stress?
Response Very limited, therewere very few things to be
afraid of.
But I say so, you're beingchased by a saber-toothed tiger.

(51:28):
I say okay, so how long do Istay in stress Until I escape?
I say how long will it take?
Five minutes, 10 minutes?
If you can run fast enough andget out of the way, then what?
Well, once you avoided thesaber-toothed tiger, you're no
longer in stress.
Oh, so stress was just you fora little period of time and then

(51:48):
shut off.
Today, stress is 24, 7, 365.
You live in stress every minuteI go.
So what's the result?
You are flooding yourself withstress hormones which do what?
Shut down your health andvitality and do what?
Manifest disease.
And all of a sudden it's like,oh my God.
And do what?
Manifest disease.

(52:09):
And all of a sudden it's like,oh my God, I've been programmed
to be a victim, but in truth Iam the one that controls the
genetic expression of my cellsand epigenetics is profoundly
important because it revealsnumber one you can have a mutant
gene, but with environmentalcontrol you can cover up that
mutation and live normal.
But the one I need to emphasize, please, the most is this you

(52:33):
can have a healthy gene and in astress environment, cause it to
read as a mutated gene andthat's where cancer comes from.
There's no gene that causes thecancer, it's the experiences of
life that activate the cancer.
So when people talk aboutbreast cancer, it's the OMA.

(52:54):
You know, when a woman getsthat diagnosis, with the belief
system of genes controlling life, that's what she was programmed
with.
She said, oh my God, I got thecancer gene.
I said what's the picture?
Cancer.
I said get that picture out ofyour mind, because the function
of the mind is to take thepicture and turn it into
chemistry which can generate thecancer.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
And how important do you think, or what impact do you
think, the role of language hason all of this?
Because when we talk about thewar on cancer, or waging a
battle in your body or takingantibiotics or antidepressants,
there's so much anti-lifeverbiage that goes into these
disease processes.
The war, the war.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, okay, the idea is, let's go back to the
environment.
I said the environment is agarden.
A garden is cooperation.
There is no war in the gardenuntil people got in the garden.
Then we just started to destroythe garden because what?
We were the only ones not inharmony with nature and we

(53:58):
thought we can control nature.
I always relate that to saying,well, how are we doing with
controlling nature?
I say we're facing anextinction that we are causing,
so maybe we're not doing thatgood and it's time for us to
recognize harmony, not war, iswhat life is all about.
And yet we've turned our lifeinto a series of battles of all

(54:18):
different kinds.
Life is a struggle oh wait,isn't that Darwin?
Yeah, life is a competition forsurvival and the struggle for
life Competition, no, no, it'scooperation.
Ooh, we were doing the wrongthing.
I go Right the wrong way, andthis is the wake-up call in the

(54:41):
evolution that you'reexperiencing outside in the
world.
Right now, the world's in astate of chaos.
Why it's not sustainable.
We have to create a new way,and the new way has to conform
to the garden, because we arethe garden.
We came into the garden, notfrom outside.
Dropped into the garden.

(55:02):
Genesis, you know, like oh, godcreated the garden and then he
threw some people in there.
No, no, we came from the garden, we've come on top of it.
So the idea of dominating thegarden humans can control it and
I say our efforts are reallyvery interesting, because with
all the controls we're enacting,we're killing ourselves by

(55:24):
destroying the environment, why,if the environment doesn't
exist, we can't exist, right?
So the wake-up call is when areyou going to start learning to
live in harmony with the world?
Rather than telling the worldwhat you want, it's time for us
to understand what the worldwants of us.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
And every organism that was added to the garden
from day one.
When you add an organism to thegarden, that organism interacts
with the garden.
It takes nutrients out of thegarden, puts waste into the
garden.
I say so what's the point?
I said, well, you can't justhave one organism, won't work.
So the idea is first, we onlyhad plants, I, I go.

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So what I say?
Oh, plants are interesting,they take in carbon dioxide and
they release oxygen.
Oh, cool, so I go.
So why is that important?
Well, when there were onlyplants here, the oxygen levels
of the atmosphere got so high.
There were spontaneous fireswith lightning strikes, boom,

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oxygen, too much oxygen.
We, there was no balance.
So we went from plants.
What did we do?
Animals, I go.
What was the result?
Well, they took the oxygen inand put out the carbon dioxide.
The plants took the carbondioxide and put out the oxygen.
Balance we were in balance andthat's what life is all about.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
On that note, can you tell us what does the periodic
table have to teach us about theworld we live in, as well as
love?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I love that because I know you read the book called
the Honeymoon.
Effect and it comes down verysimply.
It simply says this Look at theperiodic table of elements, 110
or 16 or some number like that.
All of the chemicals in thatperiodic table interact with
each other to make chemistry,molecules, interactions of

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elements.
Okay, except one column on thefar right side of the chart.
It's called the noble gasesHelium, argon, xenon, krypton
strange names.
They don't make chemistry.
You don't find like argon,sulfate or helium carbonate, no,

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a whole series of elements thatdon't make chemistry.
I go, why not?
Because there's somethingunique about that atom and this
molecular structure, atomicstructure.
I go what Atoms have?
Protons in the nucleus, whichare positive, and electrons
which run around the outside,which are negative.

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And there's a number of protons, the number of electrons
outside which are negative, andthere's a number of protons, the
number of electrons.
But when the electrons arerunning around the outside, we
call that a shell, that it'srunning like in a shell.
But shells have certain numbers.
There are shells with twoelectrons filled, then there are
eight.
You need eight to fill theshell.
I say, well, what if you haveseven?

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I say a seven electron doesn'tfill the shell.
So I say what?
Well, it's spinning.
All atoms are tornadoes.
But now they're not spinning inbalance because it's short an
electron and so it wobbles as itspins.
I say so what it's not livingin balance?
But if it's not living inbalance, then it's not energy

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efficient.
What it's not living in balance, but if it's not living in
balance, then it's not energyefficient.
So what will an atom do?
An atom will find another atomwith the opposite problem, an
atom that has only one electronin the outer shell.
And I say well, this one hasseven, this one has one, but if
the two of them come togetherthey share their electrons.
But if the two of them cometogether, they share their

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electrons, then they have eightin the outer shell and they're
balanced.
So chemistry is driven by theidea to balance the spin to make
sure the electrons are in thefull shell.
Well, what about atoms thatalready have a full shell?
Oh, those are called the noblegases.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Do they wobble when they spin?
Nope, they spin in perfectbalance.
Why?
Yeah, they have the exactnumber of electrons necessary to
spin in balance.
Do they need to hook up withanother atom to balance?
I say, nope, they spin on theirown.
Yeah, they balance pretty damngood, yeah.
At first I thought, wow, poornoble gases.

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They don't make relationships.
I go, but they do under certaincircumstances.
I say what is it?
When a noble gas is bombardedwith photons, it will activate
the energy of that atom to ahigh vibe.
And what's it going to do withthe high vibe?
It's going to hook up withanother noble gas.

(01:00:09):
They don't make chemistry.
I say when they're in high vibethey come together.
We'd normally talk aboutchemicals.
When they come together liketwo different chemicals, say
dimer, meaning two elements.
I say, well, what happens whenone gas, one noble gas, hooks up
with another noble gas?

(01:00:29):
It's called not a dimer, it isa dimer, yeah, but it's called
an excitomer.
Oh, I thought what does thatmean?
Because when they come togetherin that combination, they give
off light.
They give off light, theyenlightened lasers.
The light from a laser comesfrom noble gas, excitomers.

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And so I say what about ourrelationships with people?
I say almost all of us comewith missing electrons.
Most of us are not spending inperfect balance.
We have disharmony in our lives.
I say disharmony, you're not inbalance and that's codependency
.
But we do become in balance,right, well.
Disharmony you're not inbalance, and that's codependency
.
You become in balance, right?
Well then your life is like anoble gas you don't need anybody
.
I'm spitting perfectly well,but if I get excited or

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enlightened, I'll hook up withother noble gas and together
we'll create the laser light.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
And that's what a relationship, when it's working.
A laser light relationship is arelationship that gives off
light and energy to others.
This is when you find true loveis when you are in balance.
And I have to say, are we inbalance?
And I'm going to give you ananswer that's profoundly

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important when it comes to this.
It says if I do muscle testing,which is a way of reading your
subconscious program, and westart with a statement I love
myself, 80 to 90% of all peoplewill not test positive for I
love myself, I go.

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So why is that important?
I say well, if you don't loveyourself, then you're not
spinning in balance.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
And we have to learn to love ourselves.
Because when you learn to loveyourself, then you're open to
receive love from other people.
But if you don't love yourselfand somebody says I love you,
then you look at them and go,hey, what's wrong with you?
I know I'm not lovable.
What do you think I'm notlovable?
I don't care what you say.
And then you'll chase them awayand then there won't be

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somebody there.
Then you'll proudly say, see,I'm not lovable, there's nobody
here, Self-fulfilling prophecy.
So what does it mean?
Let's bring harmony to theworld.
Why?
Because that's what evolutionis all about.
Learn to live in balance withnature and stop pillaging mother
nature, if I use the harshestword, stop raping mother nature,

(01:02:58):
right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
And we're destroying her.
We have to learn to live inharmony.
But I say, if you have to learnto live in harmony, then first
you have to learn to live inharmony.
In the old days most of youhave my young friend over on the
other screen right here shewasn't around in those old days.
This was way long time ago, thehippy-dippy days.
I go what was happening in thehippy-dippy days?

(01:03:22):
And they say well, there was astatement that we need to know
right now.
And it says before you go outand change the world, take care
of your own backyard.
And that we need to know justas much today as we did 60 or
more years ago.
Why?
Because if we're not living inharmony and balance, how do you
expect the rest of the world todo it?

(01:03:42):
To follow you?
No, it's not going to work.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I personally know this.
Why?
Because when I understood themolecular mechanisms of
something called epigenetics andhow it works and I was so
excited because it takes us fromvictim to mastery and I wanted
the people to understand how tomaster your life I would go give
a lecture and I would say thisis a molecular mechanism, this
is how you create the mostfabulous life.

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And then the audience wouldlook at me and go you know,
lipton, for a guy who says youknow this, your life doesn't
look that good.
Oh my God, I was talking thetalk, I was giving the knowledge
, I wasn't walking the walk, Iwasn't using it in my own life.
What value was my message?

(01:04:29):
None, why.
Well, if it was so good, lipton, why does your life look so bad
?
And all of a sudden.
It's like I stopped lecturingand I said I'm either going to
apply this stuff and it's eithergoing to work or it's not going
to work.
If it works, I'm going to goback out there and tell them.
If it's not going to work, I'llbe quiet and just sneak out of
here.
What was the point?

(01:04:50):
It was only in the shortesttime that, applying the
knowledge that I'm talking aboutto my own life, my life changed
Within days.
It was different, and I go.
So what?
Well, how's my life today?
Well, you're looking at BruceNoble Gas.
Why?

(01:05:11):
Because once I corrected theimbalances of my programming,
all of a sudden I was in balanceand harmony.
And guess what?
I needed to do that before Icould find a relationship.
That's why, it took me over 40years to find Margaret.
But guess what?
Margaret and I together arenoble gases and together we spin

(01:05:33):
in harmony.
And in that harmony and givingoff light, guess what?
We live heaven on earth.
That's a true story.
Why?
Because, we are the creators,but we're creating from balance,
not from imbalance.
Right, because creating fromimbalance generates imbalance.
Yeah, oh, that's where theproblem comes from.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Exactly, and those are the most amazing
relationships when you have twopeople come together who already
complete themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
That's the way it will work best.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
You know.
And then let me explain well,how come people have the
honeymoon and then 50% ofmarriages end in divorce?
And I'll tell you exactly why.
Because in the honeymoon youdon't play programs.
Yeah, you are creating.
But once you start thinking, wow, you have a job, you have
responsibilities, things you gotto do, you start thinking then

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where's the behavior coming from?
The conscious, creative mind,the heaven on earth wishes and
desires?
Uh-uh, it comes from thesubconscious program.
I go yeah, but if you havedysfunction in there, then who's
going to see that dysfunction?
Not you, you're thinking.
Who sees it?
Your partner, because when thebehavior starts coming out,
that's not you.

(01:06:47):
I love this response from mostpeople a partner who just sees
the programming of their partnerfor the first time.
They go who are you?
Where did that come from?
And the person who has justcreated the problem says what
are you talking about?
They go they didn't see theprogram.

(01:07:08):
You saw the program.
And so when we startrelationships, we started with
everybody's creative wishes anddesires manifesting.
But over time it could be aweek, it could be a month, it
could be a year Over time thethinking process will bring up
programs that are dysfunctionalinto the relationship and

(01:07:32):
there's a point where 50% ofmarriages cannot stand that
dysfunction.
And then divorce.
So I say so, why is the divorcerate high?
Because people don't knowthey're playing programs that
are self-sabotaging, becausethey're the ones that can't see
it.
Let me close with this picture.
It's the same picture.
I've talked to my audiences for40 years now, I guess, since

(01:07:56):
1980s.
I say you have a friend, youknow your friend's behavior very
well and you happen to knowyour friend's parent.
And one day you see your friendhas the same behavior as their
parents.
So you've got to offer it.
You know it's like hey, bill,you're just like your dad, right

(01:08:16):
Back away from Bill.
I know what Bill's response isand you know because you've
experienced that I said what wasit?
Bill's going to say how can youcompare me to my dad?
I'm nothing like my dad, I go.
Everyone else sees a Bill, likehis dad.
Who's the one that can't see it?
Bill, yeah, why?
Well, he only plays the programhe got from his dad when he's

(01:08:39):
thinking so he's the one thatcan't see it, but everybody else
does Right.
And that leads us in aconclusion for the average
person to walk away from anincident going I'm a victim.
Those people out there createdthis problem.
That person did this, thisperson did that, blah, blah,
blah and walk away withoutrecognizing they were the ones

(01:09:00):
that initiated the problem withtheir behavior, that they didn't
see the bill we're all, billEvery one of us is.
See Right, the bill we're allbill.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Every one of us is bill Right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
We're all playing programs 95% of the day.
Are the programs supporting youor not supporting you?
When did you get the programs?
It started before you were born.
Last trimester of pregnancy iswhen the brain started
downloading behavior RightThrough age seven.
So I said well, what are yourprograms?
They go, um, I go.
No, you weren't there when theprograms were installed.

(01:09:33):
I'll give you an example Tellme the program three months
before you were born.
Come on, I don't know what thehell.
Okay, you were born.
You live a whole year from zeroto one.
What programs did you get then?
No, I don't have it, I don'tknow.
Oh wait wait another.
You were programmed anotherwhole year from one to two.
How many programs you got whenyou were one and a half?

(01:09:58):
No, I don't know what theprogram is.
Okay, Around two to three,about three, you might start to
remember some behaviors, Somememories come back.
But you can't tell me thefundamental programs that
happened before birth right upthrough age three.
I said so, why is that aproblem?
I said you don't know yourprogram.

(01:10:18):
I go oh my God.
I said no, you don't know yourpersonal program.
But then I'm going to give youthe answer.
The answer is simply this youready, 95% of your life is
coming from the program.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Your life is a printout of your behavioral
programs.
So let's summarize it and it'svery simple the things you like
that come into your life.
They come in because you have aprogram to acknowledge those
things.
But and this is the one, wakeup people, the things that you

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want and desire, but youstruggle.
You struggle to manifest them.
I'm working hard, I'm sweatingover it, I'm putting a lot of
effort in it.
I'm going to make it happen.
Why are you working so hard?
The answer is whatever thatdestination you're seeking and
you're struggling to get, it'snot because nature won't give it
to you, it's because yourprogram doesn't support that

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destination.
And you're going to try andoverride the program.
That's working 95% of the dayand the processor of the
subconscious is a million timesmore processing power than the
conscious.
Simple mathematics your life iscontrolled 95% of the day with a
processor that's a milliontimes greater than the conscious

(01:11:37):
processor.
What's the point?
Hey, we're creating this.
I go.
Oh, that sounds novel.
I go.
No, guess what?
Quantum physics, day one themind is the creator.
I go.
Biology, epigenetics andquantum physics emphasize the

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total truth.
We are spiritual entities in aphysical body manifesting a life
experience.
We're not just victims of lifeexperience.
We are participants in creatinglife experiences.
Well, if you don't like thelife experiences, you can
struggle all your life trying tocome over those programs, or

(01:12:23):
you can rewrite the program andthen not worry about it anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
And the resolution is rewriting your subconscious
programs, because that's wherethe freedom comes from, that's
where the balance comes into,that noble gas that you can be,
and when you are that noble gas,you know what.
You don't even need arelationship, right, noble gases

(01:12:50):
are happy with their lives justthe way they are.
But if another noble gas comesin, there's a great opportunity
to share a life of harmony,beauty and love, and that's what
real love is all about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
And I feel like at this point in time, we're seeing
a lot of the noble gasesfinding each other and the way
the internet and the world ofsocial media and the desire for
people to come together tocreate that community.
Well, that's the evolution.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Community is the evolution we have been living
based on the individual.
Darwin's is competition,survival of the fittest.
I go.
Who's that?
It's well, I want it to be me.
I don't care about you.
And all of a sudden we live ina world where everybody's
looking out for their ownbenefit and not looking at the
benefit of other people.
And who cares about them?
I care about me.
That's Darwin.

(01:13:43):
I go.
That's anti-evolution, becauseevolution is community garden.
Come together.
So we're in a state of undoing asystem that's not sustainable
with the idea of building asystem that is sustainable.
And that's why I am honored tobe here with this young woman,

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for a good reason, because youin the audience are the
participants of a futurecivilization of harmony and love
and peace and health.
All that comes at one same time, absolutely.
Love is all the same,absolutely, and so that's why
I'm so glad I'm here.
That's why I'm so glad I'm here.
I want you to know very simply.

(01:14:27):
Conclusion at this moment, surfthe web, watch the news, look
out the window.
The world's in a state of chaos.
Don't be afraid.
You know when you should beafraid.
If there is no chaos, right,because if there's no chaos,
everybody's going to continuedoing what they're doing and

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then we're going to die outwithin 20 years or something,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
so I mean, it's actually a good sign that we're
moving beyond the fear-basedevolution that Darwin defined
into this consciousnessexpansion, love-based evolution
that's happening now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Yeah, I just want to add this because I love it.
Yeah, this is not a newevolution idea.
Yeah, this is an evolution ideathat preceded Darwin by 50
years.
The first scientific theory ofevolution did not come from
Darwin.
It came from a French guy,jean-baptiste de Lamarck Lamarck
.
Who's Lamarck?

(01:15:28):
Well, I don't know who'sLamarck.
Well then, damn right I'm goingto find out who Lamarck is.
He wrote the first theory ofevolution as a scientific
principle.
But what was the differencebetween him and Darwin?
Darwin's emphasis is based oncompetition, you know, survival
of the fittest.
Lamarck's theory of evolutionhad a completely different

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understanding.
It's survival of those thatlive in harmony with a system,
he said look, animals and plantsjust don't form anywhere.
A polar bear is not in Africa,it's in the Arctic.
Roses are not in the Arctic,they're in the temperate zone.
What's the point?

(01:16:11):
Organisms and environment are ina lockstep interaction.
That's what was recognized inthe first theory.
So all of a sudden I say, oh soliving in harmony with the
environment is what engagessurvival.
I go a hundred percent and wehave to adjust.
But we are living in a worldthat we say well, we don't like
the environment, We'll make whatwe want.
I go.
You can't do that.

(01:16:35):
If you understand the future ofour evolution, it's in Lamarck
evolution.
It's called living in harmonywith the environment.
And epigenetics is what?
How the environment isperceived, and adjust your
genetics so you can live in thatharmony.
That's what epigenetics is allabout.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
I love it.
I love it.
This has been an amazingconversation.
I'm so grateful that we wereable to connect and make this
happen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Me too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Yeah, where if people want to find out?
I mean, most people know whoyou are and you're not hard to
find, but if they want toconnect with you online, where
can they find?

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
you.
I wish they would, becauseonline I offer everything.
Online.
There are audio, video, written.
All this informationdownloadable, okay.
Written.
All this informationdownloadable, okay.
And how to change thoseprograms If you don't like the
ones you're living.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
That's available free online, bruceliptoncom.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Wonderful, wonderful.
Well, bruce, thank you so muchfor joining us.
This was great and I think ouraudience is going to get a lot
out of this and help create thatcommunity that we were talking
about of noble gases that arejust going to go out and get
excited with other noble gases.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
That's what the whole idea is.
That's why I'm so glad to behere.
I like talking with you, but Ilove talking to this community
because I know people in thiscommunity are thinking okay,
what are we going to do becausesomething's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
And I hope some of the words I said could help make
a pathway for you to notsurvive but thrive into the
future.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
I appreciate it, thank you.