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Today on Bold Steps weekend, Mark Jobe gives us a
glimpse into the moments that define and change our destiny.
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There are some of you that God has brought you
today for a defining moment, and there's some of you
that are making choices right now that will determine whether
that defining moment. Whether you're ready for it or whether
you miss it, you don't want to miss God's defining moments.
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Welcome to Bold Steps Weekend with Mark Jobe. Mark is
senior pastor of New Life Community Church in Chicago and
president of Moody Bible Institute. I'm Wayne Shepherd. While Mark
was starting a new series today, you're going to be
talking about changes. So why don't you set us up
where we're headed?
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Yeah, we're talking about a defining moment today and changes.
And I'm excited about Mark chapter five, because this is
a story about a man in crisis. We've had a
lot of crisis lately, and so we can identify this
is a man in crisis that makes a decision that
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was critical for him and his family. That led to
a defining moment.
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All right. As you mentioned, we're in Mark chapter five.
Here's Mark Jobe with a message he's titled Before Your Moment.
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Last week, last Sunday, I was preaching in a town
in New Zealand, which is a far, far away place.
27 hours to get to New Zealand. 13 hour flight
from San Francisco to Auckland, which is in the North Island.
13 hours on the plane. I was going crazy. But
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you know, there's something about New Zealand. They drive on
the wrong side of the street. I rented a car
because I because I had to travel from one side
of the island to the other. And I said, honey
to my wife, are you okay with me driving? She said, no.
I said, babe, you know, we always say babe when
we're trying to get our way. Babe. Trust me, I
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got this handled. And you know, the truth of it
is I got to. Driving. And I found myself just
forcing myself to be on the other side of the road.
Because they drive on the other side, and the steering
wheel is on the wrong side of the car, and
the turn signal is where the windshield wiper should be.
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So I kept turning on the windshield wiper when I
was trying to turn, and turning on the turn signal
when I was trying to turn the windshield wipers on.
And it was really challenging. You had to focus. It
was really, really hard to drive that way. But I
drove a long time. But here's the thing before you
reach a major turn, you have to prepare for a
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major turn because if you're not ready, you miss missed
the turn. And because I was distracted, because I was
driving on this side of the street, because I was
trying to focus and have a GPS. And my wife
was talking over here, and people seem to be going
on the wrong way. There was a couple times that
I missed major turns that I should not have missed,
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and it took me way roundabout to try to get
where I should have been because I missed the moment.
I missed the moment. Every time you miss a moment
in life, you're going to have to circle back. Sometimes
a very long road. Circle back. Some moments we could
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never recover. I want to talk to you about not
missing the moment. I believe there are moments in life
that define us. I believe that there's the before and
after certain moments. There are critical moments in life that
change your destiny. There are times in life that if
you miss it, it's going to be a long road
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around to get to where you should have been years ago.
There are defining moments in our life, and I believe
that to make sure that we don't miss those defining moments,
there's usually a series of choices that were making before
that moment comes. There are some of you today that
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are preparing for a defining moment. There are some of
you that God has brought you today for a defining moment.
And there's some of you that are making choices right
now that will determine whether that defining moment. Whether you're
ready for it or whether you miss it, you don't
want to miss God's defining moments. If you look at
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Mark chapter five, there's a story of a man with
a daughter who's sick. The man's name is Jairus. He's
a ruler in the synagogue. He was in charge of
the spiritual services, coordinating the services. He was in charge
of the synagogue, which in the Jewish culture is equivalent
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to what a church would be in our culture. So
he was a religious man around scripture, around religious things
all the time, but he encountered a crisis. You know,
there's nothing like a crisis to take the religiosity out
of us. How about it? We can be religious, which
is pretty passive. But when there's a crisis, we can
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get very spiritual. There's a difference between being religious and spiritual.
Spirituality means a relationship with God. Where we're earnest, where
we seek him, where we press in. This man had
a crisis. His 12 year old daughter. Yeah. The love
of his life. His little girl was not just sniffling
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with a cough. It wasn't the flu. She had come
down with an illness that he knew this was so
serious that she had a very short time to live.
He was afraid for her life. He knew that if
unless there was divine intervention that this little girl was dead.
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So I pick up in verse 21 of Mark chapter five.
It says, when Jesus had again crossed over by the
boat to the other side of the lake, a large
crowd gathered around him while he was by the lake. Uh,
people flocked to Jesus because Jesus had just cast a
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demon out of a man that was running around naked
living in the cemetery. Sounds like a horror flick and
terrorizing people. Jesus healed the blind. He said words like
people had never heard before. He talked about love. When
others talked about judgment, he spoke about God. He demonstrated power.
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He touched people hearts and he touched people's bodies like
no one they had ever seen before. So the critics,
the dysfunctional, the broken, the needy, the sick, they flock
to Jesus. Some were just curious. Some were desperate. Some
were inquisitive. But he gathered a crowd. And the Bible
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says when the crowd was all gathered around him, Jairus
made his way through the crowd. And he got to Jesus.
And it tells us in verse 22, then one of
the synagogue rulers named Jairus came there. Seeing Jesus, he
fell at his feet. And he pleaded earnestly with him,
my little daughter is dying. Please come. Put your hands
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on her so that she may be healed and live.
And so Jesus went with him. If you're taking notes,
I want you to jot this down. Write this Before
our defining moment. If you're going to prepare for your
defining moment, you have to make a choice. Three choices.
Number one, you need to choose where you will turn
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for a breakthrough. See, before the turn comes, you have
to choose what lane to get in before the crisis comes.
You need to choose who do you put your trust
in before a defining moment hits your life? You have
to ask yourself, where will I turn in crisis? Who
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do I really trust? Where will I go? Who am
I looking to? Where is my confidence in this man
had decided that Jesus would be his choice. And so
not only did he experience a crisis, but I want
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you to notice that he got himself into the presence
of Jesus. He left his house. He ran to her.
Jesus was. He found Jesus, pushed through the crowd, got
in front of him, crying and weeping. Got on his
knees before Jesus pleaded with Jesus and said, Jesus, I
have a need. He came to the presence of Jesus.
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He humbled himself in the presence of Jesus. He declared
his need that he had in front of Jesus, and
he trusted that Jesus would respond. Can I tell you something?
There's nothing more powerful than the presence of God. Now
God is omniscient. He's everywhere all the time. You can
go to the toughest neighborhood in Chicago, and God is there.
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You can go to the fanciest cathedral in Europe, and
God is there. You can go to the most seemingly
godforsaken desert island, and yet God is there. However, there
are certain places and certain times where you sense and
feel the manifest presence of God. There's something about coming
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together in a gathering like this that the Bible says
in the New Testament that we're 2 or 3 gathered
together in the name of Jesus, that he is present
among them. There's something about gathering in a place like
this where we gather, not in the name of a man,
not in the name of a church, not in the
name of a religion. We gather here in Jesus name.
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Jesus the Christ, the son of the living God, who's
always been and who always will be. Who is God?
From the beginning, the very essence of God, not created
but always been God the Father, God the Son, and
God the Holy Spirit. John says, in the beginning was
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the word, and the word was with God, and the
word was God. And that word became incarnate and dwelt
among us. Jesus, I'm talking about not a good Messiah,
not a great teacher, not a civil rights leader, not
a a a sage with wisdom. I'm talking about the
Son of God. God himself, deity made man incarnate. That's
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the essence of Christianity. Some people stumble on the fact
that Jesus was all God. But if you are going
to be a follower of Christ, if you're going to
be a Christian as defined in Scripture, you will have
to embrace that Jesus was all God and all man
died on a cross, made a way so that you
and I can have access to God the Father. Number two,
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not only do you need to choose where you're going
to turn, you need to choose what voice you're going
to listen to. I want you to notice that Jairus
was hurrying Jesus up. Come. My daughter is sick. Come.
It's an emergency. Jesus, This is urgent. And as Jesus
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walks with them towards his house, there's an interruption. A
woman that has hemorrhaging reaches out and touches the garment
of Jesus. And Jesus stops and said, hey, who touched me?
There's an interruption. He stops, and then he has a dialogue.
He's looking for the woman all the time. Jairus knows
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that his daughter is dying all the time. Jairus knows
that he has an urgency, that he needs a miracle.
But as he waits for his miracle, someone else gets
their miracle. Has that ever happened to you?
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You're listening to Bold Steps Weekend with Mark Jobe. Before
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to support your spiritual growth. Now, let's return to the
second half of today's message with Mark Jobe, titled Before
Your Moment.
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Has it ever felt like God is late? Has that
ever felt to you that other people are getting a breakthrough?
That other people are having their prayers answered? that other
people seem like, hey, it happened to them and you
keep hearing the story. It's like always the bridesmaid, but
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never the bride. And sometimes we get to the point
where we start saying, hey, what about my turn? God,
I took a number. He cut in line. Hey, I've
been a Christian longer than him, and he gets that
answer to prayer. I remember when my wife and I
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were trying to get pregnant with our, which we now
know is our daughter. We didn't know back then. Six
years into our marriage and we were happy when other
people got pregnant. Super excited. But I remember my wife
starting to feel, hey, when is it my turn? And
we talked to a teenage girl that didn't want to
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get pregnant, and she was pregnant. And my wife would say,
what about my turn? What about our turn? Mark, why,
why why are we waiting so long? I think every
person in this auditorium has had times in their life
where they felt like someone else got a miracle, someone
else got a breakthrough, someone else experienced healing. But you're
still waiting in line. Waiting in line for God to
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show up at your house while you're still waiting. Jairus
was waiting, interrupted by someone else's miracle. And then I
want you to notice what happens in verse 32. It
says this and write this down. If you're taking notes
before your moment, not only must you choose where to turn,
you must choose the voice you will listen to. And
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Jesus kept looking around to see who had done it.
It says, and then he finally healed this woman. And
after he healed this woman, it says in verse 35,
while Jesus was still speaking, what was he saying? Jesus
was saying, woman or daughter, your faith has healed you.
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Go in peace and be freed from your suffering. While
he was still saying those words, a servant from the
house of Jairus came to Jairus. While Jesus was speaking
words of healing, a servant from the house of Jairus came,
and he said and whispered into the ruler's ear, your
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daughter is dead. Don't bother the master. It's over. How
many of you know that we have two voices in
our head? The voice of Jesus is saying, daughter, you
are free, you are healed. And the voice of the
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servant who says, your daughter is dead. Don't worry. Don't
bother the master. There's not a person in this auditorium
that doesn't have the two voices. And I'm not saying
you're schizophrenic. Some of you here more than 2 or
3 voices. We got a separate group for that. That's another.
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That's another conversation. But I'm talking about the good and
the bad. I'm talking about the fear and the faith.
I'm talking about the Holy Spirit and some other spirit.
I'm talking about the voice that tells you, hey, there's
hope for your life. God has a purpose and a
plan for your life. You have a destiny. You have
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a gifting God. You have a call. And the other
voice that says into your ear you will amount to nothing.
There's no hope for you. You might as well give
it up. And in the darkest moment that voice sometimes
has told you, you might as well end it. There
is no hope. There you'll be alone the rest of
your life. There is no future. There's a dark tunnel.
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Do you want to be in this pain? I'm talking
to someone here because what I know is that for
out of the ten people here have had suicidal thoughts.
I'm talking about the voice in the middle of a
marriage crisis. The voice that speaks in your heart, that says,
stay with her. She's your wife. Things can change. There's hope.
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She can turn around. The fire can be started again.
You committed to her. Think about your children. Think about
the future. What can happen? And the other voice that says.
I'm done with this. I want to be happy. I
need someone else. It'll never change. It will always be
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this way. I'm just going to give up. I'm talking
about the two voices. The voice of faith. And the
voice of fear. Here's what I've discovered with the two voices.
And sometimes those voices talk to us at the same
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And how many of you know it's hard to listen
to two voices at the same time? Let me just
illustrate that for you. I'm gonna get to two. I'm
gonna get a volunteer here. Come on, come on, come on.
Help me out. Yolanda. Come here. Help me out. I'm
gonna put you in the middle. I got two women
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with loud voices. No, no, I mean, I got two
women that can speak up. So you're going to be
the voice of faith. You're going to be the voice
of fear. Okay? All right, I want you to get
a little further away. Get a little further away. Get
a little further away. Okay, now I know, I know
you like her. I know you encourage her, but you're
going to just speak positive faith, what God has called
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you to be. And you're going to be the voice
of the enemy. Just like what she just just darkness
and failure and that. And I want you to get
a little further away, get a little further away, get
a little further away, a little further away. Now, I
want you to start speaking to her. Come on, start
speaking to her out loud at the same time. Louder, girls,
I know you can get louder. I know you can
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get louder. Come on. Louder, louder! Yolanda, I heard you
scream before. Come on. Louder, louder! I know you can
get loud. I know you have an attitude.
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Did you get it?
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Yeah. Two voices, two voices. Two voices going on here. Okay, okay. Pause.
Great job. Is it hard to listen to voices?
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Very hard.
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It's hard because your mind is going back and forth.
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What's wrong? I'm wrong. He's right. No. Yeah.
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I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you
what happens. The trick to listening to two voices is
whatever voice you lean into, do whatever you do. And again,
do it again. Come on. You start it up, start
it up. Come on, start it up. Come on, negativity.
Now I want you to move over here. Move over,
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move over closer. Move over closer. Move over closer. Put
your ear to what she's saying. Put your ear to
what she's saying. Yeah. Give it up for these ladies.
Come on, let's give it up. Well, I know you
want to be positive, I know that. Hey, here's what
I want to say. Go ahead. You can be seated now.
Thank you. Ladies. Here's what I want to say. Listen,
we all live in that world. You can't silence. You
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can't silence the voice of the enemy. You can't silence
the voice of fear and doubt and defeat and failure.
But you can choose what voice you lean into. You
can choose what voice you start leaning into. What voice
you start listening to. And listen right now, as I
talk today in this worship service, some of you are
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struggling with the other voice, battling with the other voice.
The voice of the spirit is speaking to your heart,
giving you a destiny of purpose, awakening you. and some
of you are fighting with those two voices. And today,
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this is what Jesus said to the man that was
struggling with the two voices. He said two things I
want you to do listen what he says. He says
Jesus told the synagogue ruler, don't be afraid. Just believe.
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Learning to discern the Spirit's voice of purpose from the
enemy's voice of defeat. That's the takeaway today from Mark
Jobe here on Bold Steps Weekend. You can learn more
about Mark, our teacher and this ministry when you go
online to Bold Steps.
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Hey Wayne, we're so blessed to have.
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Both Doctor Gary Chapman and Ron deal with us today
to talk about their collaboration in a book called Building
Love Together in Blended Families.
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Gary, you are known worldwide for the five love languages.
So what made you want to specifically address blended families
with this book.
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Well, you know, my motivation really came from Ron because
he has invested years and years working with blended families,
and I've worked with a few myself through the years.
And I realized that love, emotional love, you know, meeting
that need plays a huge role in the success of
blended families.
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So Ron, working with the five love languages in this book.
Pretty special, huh?
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Oh my goodness. It was marvelous to collaborate with Gary.
And you know, the reason we did it is because
there are nuances to every family structure and taking the
five love languages and just blanketly applying them to blended families.
Or we can think of foster families, adoptive families. There's
some nuances there, and we had to speak to those
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so that they would work on behalf of families, rather
than inadvertently causing some difficulty within them.
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Well, I just want to say, as a pastor in
the city of Chicago, thank you for writing this book
because there are so many blended families that I deal
with in the pastoral ministry. This is going to be
a gift to so many people.
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