February 29, 2024 • 33 mins
2/29/24
Botch Job Society
Episode 1 - Easel-ly Hilarious: Painting Self-Portraits
Have you ever wondered about the beauty hidden within life's missteps, or how a brushstroke of failure could lead to a masterpiece of experience? That's where we take you in our latest adventure. As we rekindle our connection after three years apart, we're not holding back any details. Our new narrative is a celebration of the flops and fumbles that shape us, whether it’s in the realm of personal endeavors or the world’s most infamous botched inventions and entertainment fiascos.
Then, join us as we attempt to capture each other's essence in portrait form, laughing at our own expense. No teleprompters, no scripts, just raw, candid creation. We're rolling out the palette for episodes splashed with color and character, and we want you to be a part of the painting. So, grab your easel, or just a cozy spot, and tune in for a symphony of stories where every misstep is a note in our collective song.
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[0:00] Intro
[13:54] Painting Self-Portraits
[26:14] Reveal and Outro
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Chris (00:01):
Botch Job Society is produced by Rock Opera Studios.
Oh crap, sorry you alright overthere?
Ramero (00:10):
No, oh gosh, okay, that's fine, did you mess up big
?
Chris (00:15):
time it was just a big wad of paint that I was not
expecting to be there.
Just do a dollop this one here.
Let me tell you like he's afailure.
Can you see how maybe it wouldhave been a failure?
(00:45):
I never know how to start thesethings.
Ramero (01:00):
Yeah, you just kind of got to.
Chris (01:01):
Yeah.
Ramero (01:02):
I think you should just fade out of black, and we're
just already talking.
Chris (01:07):
In mid-sentence.
In mid-sentence they just comein and they're like oh hey,
there they are.
Oh, didn't see you there Likeyou just walked into the room.
Ramero (01:14):
You know we were already talking and they just walked in
.
Chris (01:17):
I mean that's a perfect place to start.
So, hi, how's it going?
It's been too long.
Ramero (01:23):
It has been very long, it's been almost three years.
Yeah, wow, welcome back.
Chris (01:30):
Yeah, welcome back to Useable.
Ramero (01:32):
It's good to be back, yeah.
Chris (01:34):
It's going to take a bit to get back into the Swing of
things.
Yeah, the rhythm we're fairlygood at, sort of you know we
could go.
Ramero (01:44):
It's like riding a bike.
Chris (01:45):
Yeah, we could go months without seeing each other and
then, once we're together, thenit's like, exactly, the magic is
back.
So what have you been up tothese last couple of years?
Suffering.
Ramero (01:56):
Sorry, working, really Just working, and loving life,
or trying to at least.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's nothing really majorover here.
What about you?
Chris (02:07):
It's been a lot going on, been traveling, a bunch and new
job and I mean that's, I think,the biggest thing that changed
since last time because, when weleft off for non-experts.
I graduated, and that was thebig reason why we kind of
stopped was lack of Grad school.
Ramero (02:27):
It's real busy yeah.
Chris (02:30):
Well, it's lack of equipment now, because now I
don't have the school to provideme Right, just do everything
for us Right.
So yeah, but then also theprevious job I had was not very
good and so I got a new one andyeah, just kind of improving my
life in small ways.
Ramero (02:46):
There you go, there you go.
Yeah, I mean that's the onlybig change.
I got a new job like the end of2021.
Been there ever since.
Yeah, yeah, so that's good,it's about it.
Chris (02:58):
It's sort of Cut my hair.
Oh yeah, it looks nice thoughI'm gonna get off.
Ramero (03:03):
grew it back, cut it down again a little bit.
Chris (03:06):
Yeah.
Ramero (03:07):
Small changes.
Chris (03:07):
Yeah, I think that's a terrible.
We're not very good examplesfor this show because we're
excelling way too much.
We need to Pump the brakes alittle bit.
Can you get in a car crash onthe way home?
Ramero (03:24):
I did that actually last year.
Yeah, somebody hit me a yearago, like last summer.
Yeah, I've had four cars maybein four years because of
different activities.
Chris (03:36):
So I think I'm on pace, I think I'm doing okay.
Ramero (03:40):
No more car crashes Right Please.
Chris (03:44):
Well, real quick, why don't we just sort of talk about
what this show is gonna be?
Yeah, because we've decidedit's sort of a it's within the
non-expert cinematic universe.
Ramero (03:55):
Yeah, exactly we're gonna branch out.
Yeah, it's gonna be huge.
Chris (03:59):
It's under that sort of branding, but different from
what we did before.
Right, we're not talking aboutpop culture, we're not talking
about news.
Yeah, we're written, itWouldn't that be ironic where
the first couple episodes issomething completely different,
and then we're just like Slowthe transition back into the
same old thing.
Ramero (04:16):
Why don't we just go back to what we were doing?
Maybe we'll do both yeah wecould.
Chris (04:21):
I mean, there are a lot of failures in the media right
now.
Is this true?
Fingers crossed, yeah, but no,this show is a bit more hands-on
, a bit more doing stuff, whichI think will be way more fun for
us at least.
I don't know about peoplewatching if they really care All
(04:41):
12 of our viewers willthoroughly enjoy what we're
doing, I'm sure of it.
But yeah, on this new show, thisspin-off, we are Exploring the
idea of failure, what it meansto fail in various ways, not
only showcasing our own failuresin the things that we do, but
(05:02):
talking about other failures,you know, kind of famous ones
like products or inventions thatdidn't really take off, movies
that have failed.
So lots of room to explore Jinxyou owe me a soda.
Yeah, there's a lot of thingsout there that we can talk about
(05:24):
.
Go get that.
Go make that happen.
Ramero (05:27):
Yeah, so we'll have some interesting stuff for sure to
cover and do our own takes onthem occasionally.
Chris (05:34):
So, as we are going into this new show, that means new
socials and new website.
The nice thing about this goaround is that all of our
socials are the exact same thing, so there's no.
What was the Twitter one again?
The same exact thing across allplatforms At BotchJob Society
(05:55):
across everything.
So just search for that andyou'll be able to find us.
We'll be posting on, we'll bedoing Instagram, we'll be doing
Facebook, we'll be doing X orTwitter.
Ramero (06:08):
We'll never call it X.
Chris (06:10):
Never, never use.
Ramero (06:13):
Not my Twitter, yeah, exactly.
Chris (06:16):
Threads which.
I'm still trying to figure outI'm not sure what the platform
is.
Ramero (06:23):
It's just something else that Mark wanted to be able to
say he did Because you scrollInstagram.
Chris (06:27):
Look guys, look.
Yeah, it's okay.
Ramero (06:30):
I made Twitter 2.0 and every time you scroll Facebook
or Instagram, I'm going to keeplinking.
Chris (06:35):
what's it called?
Ramero (06:37):
Threads I don't care, mark.
I'm here for Instagram.
Leave me alone.
Chris (06:41):
So threads, TikTok and obviously YouTube so yes we're
everywhere, like before.
We're everywhere, but peopleseem to be confused as to where
they can find us.
Ramero (06:54):
They won't have that confusion anymore, because it's
all the same name.
Chris (06:57):
All the same, I got in there early.
You're going to find everything.
I got in there early to makesure that it wasn't taken.
Ramero (07:04):
It's rough.
You've got to keep changinglike pod podcast I know, Like
small things I purposefully leftoff podcast because I feel like
that is always the problem.
Chris (07:14):
But, also I wanted to make sure that it was a name
that was unique but also was notalready taken, so that was the
trouble with that, Anyway.
So yeah, we are everywhere.
Check us out on all thosesocials and you can go to our
website, which isbotshopsocietycom Pretty much
(07:34):
one stop shop for everything.
Ramero (07:35):
Yeah, everything's there .
Chris (07:37):
All the episodes will show up there and read more
about us.
Yeah, background info.
We'll have merch on there aswell.
So if you want to wear a shirtand maybe one person stop you
and say what are?
Ramero (07:49):
you wearing.
What's that?
Chris (07:51):
Oh, this old thing, it's the botshop society, and then
there's your window to explain.
So yeah, so check those out.
For anybody who hasn't watchedus before, just give a quick
sort of bio of you.
Ramero (08:10):
Yeah, you go first.
Okay, Thanks, I'm more of acloser.
Chris (08:14):
You know I'm the opener of, you're the closer, gotcha
Well it's hard to talk aboutmyself without sort of
explaining why we are a thing,let's start from the top.
Went to college together andwe're doing radio and TV a lot
(08:38):
and sort of naturally had thisrapport and this friendship and
we wanted to immortalize it inaudio format.
Ramero (08:46):
Yeah, which is what I think our senior year we had
like three or four classestogether on top of working
together.
Chris (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like we were seeing each other
too much.
Ramero (08:54):
Yeah, at this point, you might as well channel it
somewhere.
Chris (08:57):
We would record the podcast.
We have nothing to talk about.
We've seen each other a week.
Ramero (09:01):
How are you?
Well, you saw me today, rightYesterday, you know exactly.
Chris (09:07):
But you had just background in radio and TV and
so this sort of naturally feltlike something that we would
excel in and I would say we'repretty successful.
I think we need to marketourselves a little bit better,
yeah.
Ramero (09:23):
It's hard getting off the ground.
Chris (09:26):
Yeah.
Ramero (09:27):
You can get your friends to buy in, but growing.
Chris (09:30):
Right, it can be a bluff.
It's when that one strangerthat listens and you're like you
know we, finally I got one.
Ramero (09:37):
Yeah, that's how we felt when we had like random viewers
in.
Chris (09:40):
Yeah, like Germany.
Yeah Like how did you find us?
Ramero (09:44):
I'm glad you enjoy it.
But Right, who are?
Chris (09:47):
you.
So, yeah, that's I mean, mybackground is just mostly film
and editing and that's, you know, that's what I do.
So Thank you for all your hardwork, you're welcome.
Ramero (09:59):
Yeah, I mean, like you said, we just kind of overlapped
a lot.
You were more into the filmside of things.
I was super radio TV, butobviously in the TV studio
you're going to be around people.
We worked in the TV studiotogether at school and shared
all the same classes.
If it wasn't at the same time,it was somewhat overlapping, you
(10:21):
know.
Chris (10:21):
So so that was our short bio, yeah, discussing who we are
and why we are not qualified tobe doing this.
So for this episode I don'tknow if I, I guess I'll explain.
So for this, for this wholepodcast, my idea was that we
(10:46):
would have sort of threecategories of episodes to give
it a bit of variety.
We would have hands-on oneswhere we attempt to do things
and obviously the expectationthat we will fail.
Yeah, the other is more of atalking one, where we talk about
, like I said, failed productsor just things in general in
history that have are famous for, you know, being blunders.
Ramero (11:08):
Being bad, yeah, and then you see, Madam Whip.
Anyway, carry on Funny.
You should bring that up.
Chris (11:14):
The next category would be like bad movies.
Yeah, and I think the ideabehind that would be we would
actually sit down and watch thewhole movie and react to it in
real time.
Some real tooth pullers outthere.
Yeah, I know, that's what I'm.
I have a list of ones that I'mlike.
I haven't seen it, but I'veheard that's bad.
Yeah, I cannot wait to see howbad it is.
Yeah.
Ramero (11:34):
Yeah.
Chris (11:34):
So for this episode it's going to be more hands-on,
because I thought that wouldmake sense as our, as our debut.
We do something a bit moreinteresting, Of course.
So we sort of had he's gettingready.
Ramero (11:46):
He's thinking about it, he's getting ready.
Chris (11:49):
So for this one, we had the idea of trying to do some
self-portraits of each otherpainting self-portraits.
I feel like I have a harderchallenge than you do because of
your skin tone.
I feel like anything that Iproduce will just come off as a
racist caricature.
Ramero (12:09):
He's drawing me in blackface, just so we're clear.
It's going to look like ablackface portrait during the
month of February.
Chris (12:15):
I know Exactly, yeah, so Lightly, I will get you canceled
.
Ramero (12:21):
Yeah.
Chris (12:21):
I'm totally expecting it.
Ramero (12:22):
I won't be here next week.
It'll be so many else.
Chris (12:27):
So yeah, we're going to try to do some self-portraits.
So real quick do you have anyexperience with painting before.
Ramero (12:36):
I'm not an expert at it.
I'm okay, I'm an okay painteron occasion, but I don't know
Right.
As far as the portrait goes,I'm not sure.
Chris (12:47):
Well, not to make you feel bad, but I do have an
example of my work, so I thinkyou might be up for it.
Although do you notice onething about this that will be a
particular challenge for metoday.
Ramero (13:02):
Is the fact that you didn't have to do any real
details.
To a face you just yeah.
There's no real face.
Chris (13:09):
You're gonna paint the canvas brown and just give me
eyes and some lips and be likealright, we're good, it's, it's
you from really close up.
If you were to just get reallyclose to you, this is totally
you.
Ramero (13:20):
I started to bring a painting of my own that I did
recently.
Chris (13:22):
Oh yeah, you should have, you should.
I'm glad I didn't know, okay itwas nice, but you know well
again.
This may be just a one-offwhere I'm like I'm so good and
then today it's like terrible.
So we'll see, yeah, we'll lockin it's on.
Ramero (13:37):
You got a deal.
Paint you so good.
I Don't know, we'll see.
I'm interested to see how itturns out.
It's gonna be funny regardless,though.
Yeah Right, all right, are youready?
Chris (14:00):
No, I'm already feeling.
This is why your failure yeah.
Ramero (14:05):
Okay, guys.
So to walk you through this alittle bit, we're staring
intimately to each other's eyesas we get a rough outline of
what it is we're gonna paint,right now, this is really hard
because I don't want to be likeinsensitive, yeah, but I also
want to be accurate.
Chris (14:21):
You're gonna make my head really big.
Ramero (14:24):
It's accurate, it's fine , okay, no it's, it's fine, the
head's gonna be big.
Okay, I respect it and expectit.
Chris (14:33):
So do you remember?
Do you have any like memoriesof Painting in school?
Ramero (14:38):
Yeah, our class was my favorite class growing up.
Chris (14:41):
Okay, did your school have the like that weird art
teacher that Was super likeeccentric, yes, and sort of not
like a witchy?
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like into dragons and stuff.
Sure, like a beach, more like,yeah, no, I actually I still
remember my art teacher.
Ramero (14:59):
Her name was miss McNeil .
Miss McNeil was really sweetand a Very good teacher and she
actually ended up getting intopolitics later in life.
Oh.
So around the time we were inhigh school I started seeing a
Like Signs with her name on it.
Like vote her for XYZ.
I'm like weird.
Oh my, that's miss McNeil.
(15:21):
And I bumped into her, you know,years later.
Yeah, thankfully, most of myteachers remember me when I see
them again and and at least agood way, yeah, and not in a
like, oh god, here he comes away.
Very thankful for that.
But yeah, I had a great artteacher and At one point in life
I did want to do like art stuff, mm-hmm.
(15:42):
But in my mind I'm like I don'tknow if there's really an
avenue to make a living for that.
Yeah, so maybe I shouldn't Betoo invested in pursuing it, you
know.
Chris (15:54):
What about you?
I knew I wasn't really good atdrawing.
Yeah, I Tried, but I feel likewhat I saw in my head was never
translated to the canvas, well,ever and that's, I think, was
one of the things.
I'm making your smile like theJoker.
(16:14):
Oh, one of the things goinginto film was I knew that I did
not want to do cinematographybecause I knew that I was not
good.
Ramero (16:24):
Like translating yeah.
Chris (16:32):
Hey, mine's not gonna be any better.
Ramero (16:33):
Yeah, this is gonna be really funny actually.
Chris (16:36):
I'm trying to do like your series, you know, like the
your serious face, that you do.
Now See if I can, if I canactually do it, I Think that
would be better than a smile,because the smiles just gonna
look yeah.
Yeah, I'm also trying not tolike make your lips like
caricature, like huge it's hardto draw like facial features.
Ramero (16:59):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, it's like either nosesand lips look really tiny or
they look cartoonishly big.
Yeah, and I don't want to makeit seem like you're six flags
and you just paid me to makethis like crazy middle of them
all.
Yeah, it's like I also don'twant your lips to look like Real
tiny didn't wipe you the lip.
No, this is a.
(17:21):
This is this is gonna be aninteresting, you're done.
Chris (17:25):
I'm done sketching.
You're so good.
It's a rough sketch, it's not.
It's it's not very good.
Ramero (17:30):
What would you say?
I think they artistically sinceI wasn't necessarily one of
your strong suits.
You remember any like projectsthat you were really proud of
how they came out.
Chris (17:41):
Whether in school or outside school, one that I
definitely remember, that Iactually enjoy.
I had a good time with this one.
We did Sounds make sense likeknowing me, but it was like
weaving Okay we would have to dolike yarn weaving.
Okay, I was really good at itbecause I could make like little
designs in the in the weavingand that was like really the
(18:04):
only good thing that I was ableto do.
Everything else was kind ofterrible.
I just I was not again, couldnot translate what was in my
head onto yeah canvas orwhatever.
Ramero (18:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think that sometimes one of the hardest
things and that's part of thereason why, for a long time, I
kind of stopped doing artsystuff is because I just felt
like I would sometimes strugglewith the same thing.
Yeah, like I see it, and itmakes sense here, but once I try
to get it out, it's like whatthe hell is this?
I Think I had ceramics in highschool, okay, and my was fun
(18:45):
final project I Made a toiletbowl monster.
I'll have to show you a pictureof it at some point.
Maybe we can post it on thesocials.
But yeah it.
It originally was gonna be likeone of those you don't remember
when we were in high school wehad those like stupid, the
original memes, like the why youso means that I like the dumb
ones.
So it was gonna be like one ofthose like a bus of it, like the
(19:08):
neck and then the head.
Okay, and then halfway upthrough the head process, when I
had like the dome, like bottomhalf of the face, I was like you
know what, I'm just gonna makea slab and cut it like odd long.
I just turn this into a toilet.
So there's a the lid andthere's teeth coming down from
the lid and two little eyes uptop and then the flush handle at
the back.
That's funny toilet monster,very, very stupid.
(19:32):
But I was proud of that project.
I was like you know what youdid good kid.
Yeah, it did good.
I Made your face incrediblyslender.
Chris (19:42):
Yeah, I'm also realizing.
I don't know how quicklyacrylic paint dries, yeah, but I
don't know if I'm gonna be ableto paint on top of the other
parts.
Ramero (19:51):
Yeah.
Chris (19:52):
I guess we'll see.
I still have to figure out howto.
Ramero (19:54):
even For those of you out there if you paint or
haven't painted, consider how doyou paint a white person
Respectfully, like you only getwhite in the paint packet and
then you have to try to mix someother undertones to make an
(20:14):
actual skin adjacent tone color.
Chris (20:18):
This is way harder.
Not that I thought it was goingto be easy, no, but it's way
harder than I thought yeah.
Ramero (20:25):
I'm trying to.
Chris (20:28):
I almost don't even want to show you this, because I
think you're going to hate me.
Ramero (20:33):
I'm, I could never hate you.
Oh well, maybe no promises,it's a new day for everything.
Chris (20:44):
Yeah, guys, this will be the first and last episode.
Ramero (20:46):
Thank you for coming.
Chris (20:47):
Really appreciate your support.
So what happened to yourfriendship?
Ramero (20:51):
I made him look like Milk-Dud with eyes and he
decided he didn't want to speakto me anymore, and that was the
last time I saw him.
Chris (21:01):
Oh my gosh.
Ramero (21:05):
Okay, here's the thing.
I don't know if there's enoughwhite in the world that can
overcome how much like othercolors impact it.
You know what I mean.
Like I can't get away from pink.
Yeah, you might be a pink mantoday, that's.
You know what?
That's fine, let me see how canwe fix this.
(21:26):
Okay, well, at this point, yeah, I would just embrace it.
Chris (21:30):
You're pink, yeah, oh my gosh.
Okay, now it's turning into a,a character.
Ramero (21:38):
Essentially, chris is painting Martin Luther King over
there.
Any black man with lower hairand any type of facial hair,
you're going to come out lookinglike Martin Luther King.
Yeah, just be glad we're doingthis in 2024 and not 1964.
(21:59):
Oh gosh, yeah, I would havebeen pitch black.
With red lips, stupid eyes.
I would have looked terrible.
Chris (22:07):
How am I going to get your facial hair?
That's going to be difficult.
Ramero (22:11):
Get the skinniest brush you have.
Dip it in black, yeah.
And just give me some littleslight facial.
Oh, that was going to come outreally bad, just never mind, I'm
done talking about it.
Guys, update over here I don'tknow if Chris can see it from
(22:32):
his side.
I finally perfected white skin,at least as close as it'll get.
He's got some peach undertones.
If any of you listening orwatching are art savvy folks,
please feel free to give us somepointers on how you would have
(22:53):
not made this bad.
You can roast us.
Yeah, you can talk about howterrible is.
It's fine, I won't cry.
Yeah, I'm no stranger tointernet criticism, if you know.
Chris (23:03):
You know, should we do like a we should make up an
apology video so we can be likeall the other YouTubers.
Yeah, but like some forsomething stupid, right?
That doesn't make sense.
Ramero (23:15):
What would our apology video be?
Apologize for pretending that Iknow what I'm doing.
Chris (23:24):
And then fake cry.
But there's no tears.
Ramero (23:27):
Yeah, the thumbnail has to make it look like we're
crying.
Oh god, you're actually reallylike peach.
It's fine, it's gonna be fine.
It's fine, all right, we'regonna make it work.
(23:48):
See, chris took the approach ofpainting around where eyes
would be, which was probablysmarter.
You know, I like to live on theedge.
We're just gonna figuresomething out.
Chris (24:02):
I think eyes are probably the most difficult thing to do.
Very much, very much so Becauseto get them like, I feel like I
even need to like steady myhand to get the shape, because
it's so difficult to do eyes.
Ramero (24:18):
I concur, I concur.
Chris (24:22):
You need to leave.
Ramero (24:26):
You need to leave.
Also, if you don't already knowus or haven't watched us before
, a lot of our conversations endup degrading into random meme
references.
Well, that's fine.
Chris (24:40):
This is part of the process.
Also, if you're listening justlistening you can watch this
show.
You can see exactly what we'redoing.
You can see how these portraitsturn out.
You go to youtubecom slashbotch job sys.
I almost said non-experts.
Ramero (25:00):
We could link the two though.
Yeah, I think I will.
I think I will you find the oneand end up getting to the other
.
I also was nobody gonna tell mewhen my hand was blue.
How did it get blue, I don'tknow really, did it get on your
clothes?
And I'd for sure put my hand inmy pocket.
Oh boy.
Yeah, we're gonna start apatreon, if you want to buy me
(25:22):
some new sweatpants, I wouldgreatly appreciate it.
Chris (25:25):
We actually do have a patreon, oh yes.
Lots of this is a perfect segue, lots of good extra content.
If you want to monetarilysupport us Of course not a
requirement, but it is aIndication of how much you love
me.
It is an appreciated gesture tosupport us with your money.
(25:47):
Lots of different tier levels,so you don't have to contribute
a lot.
But if you also only want tocommit just a little bit or a
one time, oh crap, sorry you.
Alright, no, oh gosh, okay,that's fine, did you mess up big
?
time.
It was just a big wad of paintthat I was not expecting to be
(26:10):
there.
Let's do a dollop, a littledollop.
If you only want to support us,like as a one-off, that's
totally fine.
If you go to our website and goto the support tab, there will
be options there for you.
We'll take your money.
Ramero (26:27):
That's never been a question.
I'll always do that.
Chris (26:30):
But no for sure.
Definitely check out thepatreon and see if there's a
tier that you would like tosupport and if the perks are
worth it to you.
We will have lots ofinteresting things.
No matter what tier you go with, you will get your name on
screen at the end of eachepisode, so everybody will know
exactly who you are and that yousupport your two favorite
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people.
I'm doing your eyes, and Irealize that people's eyes are
not.
Yeah.
Ramero (26:59):
People's eyes.
You know the newscaster onFamily Guy and Ollie.
With the weather, it's raining.
Thanks, ollie, is that how I?
Chris (27:08):
look over there, big eyes Kind of.
Yeah, you look like me when Iwas on news.
Ramero (27:13):
Oh yeah those were good times, mm-hmm, were they this
afternoon?
Chris (27:17):
We did.
It was a robbery down in here.
Ramero (27:23):
Oh God, Fun times in the city.
Chris (27:27):
fun times Well, I think, I don't know we are better on
camera when we're not beingscripted.
Ramero (27:34):
Yeah, I mean, you know, like when I would be doing
anything for some of the otherprograms on TV, I'd never used
teleprompter, right, I wasalways an off the top of the
head guy.
Yeah, didn't write downquestions, didn't do.
I might do intro and outro.
Chris (27:50):
Yeah.
Ramero (27:51):
Other than that, I'm just talking.
Chris (27:52):
Yeah, well, it feels more natural too.
Ramero (27:54):
Yeah, that way.
I don't like having to likegaze into the camera when I'm
really reading and then it getsreally awkward if you're
watching me, because why is hestaring so deeply into my soul?
I like to just kind of do mything, yeah, and hopefully the
shots that are thrown in whileyou're hearing me talk make you
see that I'm just so good atpainting.
Chris (28:16):
Wonder if it would have been smarter to do a time limit.
Ramero (28:20):
Maybe, but we can always do a time skip, yeah, yeah,
like well, montage style, likeput this in 1.5 time and just
let it go.
Chris (28:32):
Wait, let's pretend like we're doing.
Let's pretend.
Ramero (28:36):
Let's pretend, let's pretend, let's pretend 90 day
wait, love journey and just keepmoving.
Chris (28:39):
Yeah.
Ramero (28:44):
Lili, lili, lili, lili, yeah, oh, my goodness, let's see
here.
Chris (28:49):
All right, I think I have completed your portrait,
sayonara.
Ramero (28:58):
It's over, I'm done, that's it, we're good.
Chris (29:04):
Well, I don't know if I'm more excited or anxious to
share them.
Shall we go?
Okay, so we finished ourportraits.
Ramero (29:15):
Yes To, I wouldn't say, satisfactory level but given the
time that we had, I think youknow it was very quick.
It was like a 10, 15 minutepaint sesh.
Chris (29:26):
But I think that the works.
Yeah, it's like we could havespent all day, oh yeah, and we
had a couple of times you gaveme another 30 minutes.
Shhh, smell it.
Ramero (29:36):
Remember that You'd be shocked.
No, okay For the time we had, Ithink it's good.
Okay, and now it's time for thegrand reveal.
Chris (29:42):
All right, and on the count of three One, two three.
Oh, that's not bad.
I really like that.
Oh my gosh, I actually reallylike yours.
I really like yours.
Ramero (29:56):
I like your stern demeanor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yourquick neck and t-shirt job,
because I was like, oh wait,it's a floating head.
Chris (30:05):
I like well, the eyes are a little spooky, but I actually
really like that.
I'm gonna hang that up, thankyou.
Thank you, I'm gonna hang it up.
Ramero (30:13):
I see what you meant now about the tired look.
Chris (30:16):
You also kind of don't have a nose.
Ramero (30:19):
Yeah, I see where it was and then I see how the color
issue came into play.
Chris (30:23):
And it drowned out the nose, not my best word, I like
it.
Ramero (30:27):
I like it.
I thought let's come togetherhere.
Chris (30:31):
We put it in front of her real face.
Ramero (30:32):
Yeah, these are great, Don't you think this looks like
me, Like you know, minus, youknow if I got some sleep.
Chris (30:40):
Oh hi, romero, Nothing changed, surprise.
When the eyes look as if it'sso like.
Ramero (30:47):
I'm just gonna just.
Chris (30:53):
Stares into your soul.
Ramero (30:55):
I'm not mad at this, though I'm not mad at yours
either.
I actually really like it.
Chris (30:58):
I think we did great.
You're way better than I am.
Ah well, I way better than I am.
Ramero (31:03):
Listen, it was I.
Like your beard.
Chris (31:07):
It's too chuel, come on really good, yeah, yeah, yours
is like nothing, no, but youknow.
Ramero (31:11):
I just recently cut my beard down a little bit, so I
got the stubble thing going.
Chris (31:15):
What it looks like is those like boy bands in the
2000s when they tried to havelike really stylized beards.
That's kind of what it lookslike.
I'm not mad at this though Fora quick artistic take.
Okay, oh, it worked.
Did we already fail at ourpodcast then?
Well, we didn't fail, becausewe failed at nevermind.
(31:37):
It's too meta, too meta, youwouldn't get it.
No, you wouldn't get it.
Ramero (31:43):
Well, the clip from the Joker, you wouldn't get it?
No, these are okay guys.
I think we did okay.
Chris (31:49):
Well, I mean, that was the first episode of a new
adventure.
That's the botch job society sofar.
Yeah, this is our firstinductees into the Hall of
Disfame.
Ramero (32:04):
The BHS Hall of Destain.
Yeah, destain, yeah, we needthese in a.
For a small fee, you canpurchase these paintings, and I
don't know why you'd wanna dothat.
But if you wanna pay me, I'lllet you.
We got a lot of stuff though.
Plan maybe more painting, a lotof stuff, some chef-like
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episodes.
Maybe it's gonna be fun.
So stay tuned for more, forsure, real quick.
Chris (32:32):
Just social medias, botch shop society across everything.
We also have a website,botchshopsocietycom.
If you go to the contact tabyou can leave us a voicemail.
We'll play your voicemail onthe show, so if you wanna be on
the show in some form then,that's the way to do it.
Ramero (32:48):
Uncle Harry, I'm counting on you.
Leave me a voicemail.
You've asked for this for yearsand we're back, so I fully
expect you to leave us avoicemail.
Chris (32:56):
I'm ready to hear it.
Ramero (32:57):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Thank you, guys.
We'll see you next time.
Chris (33:04):
Oh.
Botch Job Society is produced by Rock Opera Studios.
Oh crap, sorry you alright overthere?
Ramero (00:10):
No, oh gosh, okay, that's fine, did you mess up big
?
Chris (00:15):
time it was just a big wad of paint that I was not
expecting to be there.
Just do a dollop this one here.
Let me tell you like he's afailure.
Can you see how maybe it wouldhave been a failure?
(00:45):
I never know how to start thesethings.
Ramero (01:00):
Yeah, you just kind of got to.
Chris (01:01):
Yeah.
Ramero (01:02):
I think you should just fade out of black, and we're
just already talking.
Chris (01:07):
In mid-sentence.
In mid-sentence they just comein and they're like oh hey,
there they are.
Oh, didn't see you there Likeyou just walked into the room.
Ramero (01:14):
You know we were already talking and they just walked in
.
Chris (01:17):
I mean that's a perfect place to start.
So, hi, how's it going?
It's been too long.
Ramero (01:23):
It has been very long, it's been almost three years.
Yeah, wow, welcome back.
Chris (01:30):
Yeah, welcome back to Useable.
Ramero (01:32):
It's good to be back, yeah.
Chris (01:34):
It's going to take a bit to get back into the Swing of
things.
Yeah, the rhythm we're fairlygood at, sort of you know we
could go.
Ramero (01:44):
It's like riding a bike.
Chris (01:45):
Yeah, we could go months without seeing each other and
then, once we're together, thenit's like, exactly, the magic is
back.
So what have you been up tothese last couple of years?
Suffering.
Ramero (01:56):
Sorry, working, really Just working, and loving life,
or trying to at least.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's nothing really majorover here.
What about you?
Chris (02:07):
It's been a lot going on, been traveling, a bunch and new
job and I mean that's, I think,the biggest thing that changed
since last time because, when weleft off for non-experts.
I graduated, and that was thebig reason why we kind of
stopped was lack of Grad school.
Ramero (02:27):
It's real busy yeah.
Chris (02:30):
Well, it's lack of equipment now, because now I
don't have the school to provideme Right, just do everything
for us Right.
So yeah, but then also theprevious job I had was not very
good and so I got a new one andyeah, just kind of improving my
life in small ways.
Ramero (02:46):
There you go, there you go.
Yeah, I mean that's the onlybig change.
I got a new job like the end of2021.
Been there ever since.
Yeah, yeah, so that's good,it's about it.
Chris (02:58):
It's sort of Cut my hair.
Oh yeah, it looks nice thoughI'm gonna get off.
Ramero (03:03):
grew it back, cut it down again a little bit.
Chris (03:06):
Yeah.
Ramero (03:07):
Small changes.
Chris (03:07):
Yeah, I think that's a terrible.
We're not very good examplesfor this show because we're
excelling way too much.
We need to Pump the brakes alittle bit.
Can you get in a car crash onthe way home?
Ramero (03:24):
I did that actually last year.
Yeah, somebody hit me a yearago, like last summer.
Yeah, I've had four cars maybein four years because of
different activities.
Chris (03:36):
So I think I'm on pace, I think I'm doing okay.
Ramero (03:40):
No more car crashes Right Please.
Chris (03:44):
Well, real quick, why don't we just sort of talk about
what this show is gonna be?
Yeah, because we've decidedit's sort of a it's within the
non-expert cinematic universe.
Ramero (03:55):
Yeah, exactly we're gonna branch out.
Yeah, it's gonna be huge.
Chris (03:59):
It's under that sort of branding, but different from
what we did before.
Right, we're not talking aboutpop culture, we're not talking
about news.
Yeah, we're written, itWouldn't that be ironic where
the first couple episodes issomething completely different,
and then we're just like Slowthe transition back into the
same old thing.
Ramero (04:16):
Why don't we just go back to what we were doing?
Maybe we'll do both yeah wecould.
Chris (04:21):
I mean, there are a lot of failures in the media right
now.
Is this true?
Fingers crossed, yeah, but no,this show is a bit more hands-on
, a bit more doing stuff, whichI think will be way more fun for
us at least.
I don't know about peoplewatching if they really care All
(04:41):
12 of our viewers willthoroughly enjoy what we're
doing, I'm sure of it.
But yeah, on this new show, thisspin-off, we are Exploring the
idea of failure, what it meansto fail in various ways, not
only showcasing our own failuresin the things that we do, but
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talking about other failures,you know, kind of famous ones
like products or inventions thatdidn't really take off, movies
that have failed.
So lots of room to explore Jinxyou owe me a soda.
Yeah, there's a lot of thingsout there that we can talk about
(05:24):
.
Go get that.
Go make that happen.
Ramero (05:27):
Yeah, so we'll have some interesting stuff for sure to
cover and do our own takes onthem occasionally.
Chris (05:34):
So, as we are going into this new show, that means new
socials and new website.
The nice thing about this goaround is that all of our
socials are the exact same thing, so there's no.
What was the Twitter one again?
The same exact thing across allplatforms At BotchJob Society
(05:55):
across everything.
So just search for that andyou'll be able to find us.
We'll be posting on, we'll bedoing Instagram, we'll be doing
Facebook, we'll be doing X orTwitter.
Ramero (06:08):
We'll never call it X.
Chris (06:10):
Never, never use.
Ramero (06:13):
Not my Twitter, yeah, exactly.
Chris (06:16):
Threads which.
I'm still trying to figure outI'm not sure what the platform
is.
Ramero (06:23):
It's just something else that Mark wanted to be able to
say he did Because you scrollInstagram.
Chris (06:27):
Look guys, look.
Yeah, it's okay.
Ramero (06:30):
I made Twitter 2.0 and every time you scroll Facebook
or Instagram, I'm going to keeplinking.
Chris (06:35):
what's it called?
Ramero (06:37):
Threads I don't care, mark.
I'm here for Instagram.
Leave me alone.
Chris (06:41):
So threads, TikTok and obviously YouTube so yes we're
everywhere, like before.
We're everywhere, but peopleseem to be confused as to where
they can find us.
Ramero (06:54):
They won't have that confusion anymore, because it's
all the same name.
Chris (06:57):
All the same, I got in there early.
You're going to find everything.
I got in there early to makesure that it wasn't taken.
Ramero (07:04):
It's rough.
You've got to keep changinglike pod podcast I know, Like
small things I purposefully leftoff podcast because I feel like
that is always the problem.
Chris (07:14):
But, also I wanted to make sure that it was a name
that was unique but also was notalready taken, so that was the
trouble with that, Anyway.
So yeah, we are everywhere.
Check us out on all thosesocials and you can go to our
website, which isbotshopsocietycom Pretty much
(07:34):
one stop shop for everything.
Ramero (07:35):
Yeah, everything's there .
Chris (07:37):
All the episodes will show up there and read more
about us.
Yeah, background info.
We'll have merch on there aswell.
So if you want to wear a shirtand maybe one person stop you
and say what are?
Ramero (07:49):
you wearing.
What's that?
Chris (07:51):
Oh, this old thing, it's the botshop society, and then
there's your window to explain.
So yeah, so check those out.
For anybody who hasn't watchedus before, just give a quick
sort of bio of you.
Ramero (08:10):
Yeah, you go first.
Okay, Thanks, I'm more of acloser.
Chris (08:14):
You know I'm the opener of, you're the closer, gotcha
Well it's hard to talk aboutmyself without sort of
explaining why we are a thing,let's start from the top.
Went to college together andwe're doing radio and TV a lot
(08:38):
and sort of naturally had thisrapport and this friendship and
we wanted to immortalize it inaudio format.
Ramero (08:46):
Yeah, which is what I think our senior year we had
like three or four classestogether on top of working
together.
Chris (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like we were seeing each other
too much.
Ramero (08:54):
Yeah, at this point, you might as well channel it
somewhere.
Chris (08:57):
We would record the podcast.
We have nothing to talk about.
We've seen each other a week.
Ramero (09:01):
How are you?
Well, you saw me today, rightYesterday, you know exactly.
Chris (09:07):
But you had just background in radio and TV and
so this sort of naturally feltlike something that we would
excel in and I would say we'repretty successful.
I think we need to marketourselves a little bit better,
yeah.
Ramero (09:23):
It's hard getting off the ground.
Chris (09:26):
Yeah.
Ramero (09:27):
You can get your friends to buy in, but growing.
Chris (09:30):
Right, it can be a bluff.
It's when that one strangerthat listens and you're like you
know we, finally I got one.
Ramero (09:37):
Yeah, that's how we felt when we had like random viewers
in.
Chris (09:40):
Yeah, like Germany.
Yeah Like how did you find us?
Ramero (09:44):
I'm glad you enjoy it.
But Right, who are?
Chris (09:47):
you.
So, yeah, that's I mean, mybackground is just mostly film
and editing and that's, you know, that's what I do.
So Thank you for all your hardwork, you're welcome.
Ramero (09:59):
Yeah, I mean, like you said, we just kind of overlapped
a lot.
You were more into the filmside of things.
I was super radio TV, butobviously in the TV studio
you're going to be around people.
We worked in the TV studiotogether at school and shared
all the same classes.
If it wasn't at the same time,it was somewhat overlapping, you
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know.
Chris (10:21):
So so that was our short bio, yeah, discussing who we are
and why we are not qualified tobe doing this.
So for this episode I don'tknow if I, I guess I'll explain.
So for this, for this wholepodcast, my idea was that we
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would have sort of threecategories of episodes to give
it a bit of variety.
We would have hands-on oneswhere we attempt to do things
and obviously the expectationthat we will fail.
Yeah, the other is more of atalking one, where we talk about
, like I said, failed productsor just things in general in
history that have are famous for, you know, being blunders.
Ramero (11:08):
Being bad, yeah, and then you see, Madam Whip.
Anyway, carry on Funny.
You should bring that up.
Chris (11:14):
The next category would be like bad movies.
Yeah, and I think the ideabehind that would be we would
actually sit down and watch thewhole movie and react to it in
real time.
Some real tooth pullers outthere.
Yeah, I know, that's what I'm.
I have a list of ones that I'mlike.
I haven't seen it, but I'veheard that's bad.
Yeah, I cannot wait to see howbad it is.
Yeah.
Ramero (11:34):
Yeah.
Chris (11:34):
So for this episode it's going to be more hands-on,
because I thought that wouldmake sense as our, as our debut.
We do something a bit moreinteresting, Of course.
So we sort of had he's gettingready.
Ramero (11:46):
He's thinking about it, he's getting ready.
Chris (11:49):
So for this one, we had the idea of trying to do some
self-portraits of each otherpainting self-portraits.
I feel like I have a harderchallenge than you do because of
your skin tone.
I feel like anything that Iproduce will just come off as a
racist caricature.
Ramero (12:09):
He's drawing me in blackface, just so we're clear.
It's going to look like ablackface portrait during the
month of February.
Chris (12:15):
I know Exactly, yeah, so Lightly, I will get you canceled
.
Ramero (12:21):
Yeah.
Chris (12:21):
I'm totally expecting it.
Ramero (12:22):
I won't be here next week.
It'll be so many else.
Chris (12:27):
So yeah, we're going to try to do some self-portraits.
So real quick do you have anyexperience with painting before.
Ramero (12:36):
I'm not an expert at it.
I'm okay, I'm an okay painteron occasion, but I don't know
Right.
As far as the portrait goes,I'm not sure.
Chris (12:47):
Well, not to make you feel bad, but I do have an
example of my work, so I thinkyou might be up for it.
Although do you notice onething about this that will be a
particular challenge for metoday.
Ramero (13:02):
Is the fact that you didn't have to do any real
details.
To a face you just yeah.
There's no real face.
Chris (13:09):
You're gonna paint the canvas brown and just give me
eyes and some lips and be likealright, we're good, it's, it's
you from really close up.
If you were to just get reallyclose to you, this is totally
you.
Ramero (13:20):
I started to bring a painting of my own that I did
recently.
Chris (13:22):
Oh yeah, you should have, you should.
I'm glad I didn't know, okay itwas nice, but you know well
again.
This may be just a one-offwhere I'm like I'm so good and
then today it's like terrible.
So we'll see, yeah, we'll lockin it's on.
Ramero (13:37):
You got a deal.
Paint you so good.
I Don't know, we'll see.
I'm interested to see how itturns out.
It's gonna be funny regardless,though.
Yeah Right, all right, are youready?
Chris (14:00):
No, I'm already feeling.
This is why your failure yeah.
Ramero (14:05):
Okay, guys.
So to walk you through this alittle bit, we're staring
intimately to each other's eyesas we get a rough outline of
what it is we're gonna paint,right now, this is really hard
because I don't want to be likeinsensitive, yeah, but I also
want to be accurate.
Chris (14:21):
You're gonna make my head really big.
Ramero (14:24):
It's accurate, it's fine , okay, no it's, it's fine, the
head's gonna be big.
Okay, I respect it and expectit.
Chris (14:33):
So do you remember?
Do you have any like memoriesof Painting in school?
Ramero (14:38):
Yeah, our class was my favorite class growing up.
Chris (14:41):
Okay, did your school have the like that weird art
teacher that Was super likeeccentric, yes, and sort of not
like a witchy?
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like into dragons and stuff.
Sure, like a beach, more like,yeah, no, I actually I still
remember my art teacher.
Ramero (14:59):
Her name was miss McNeil .
Miss McNeil was really sweetand a Very good teacher and she
actually ended up getting intopolitics later in life.
Oh.
So around the time we were inhigh school I started seeing a
Like Signs with her name on it.
Like vote her for XYZ.
I'm like weird.
Oh my, that's miss McNeil.
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And I bumped into her, you know,years later.
Yeah, thankfully, most of myteachers remember me when I see
them again and and at least agood way, yeah, and not in a
like, oh god, here he comes away.
Very thankful for that.
But yeah, I had a great artteacher and At one point in life
I did want to do like art stuff, mm-hmm.
(15:42):
But in my mind I'm like I don'tknow if there's really an
avenue to make a living for that.
Yeah, so maybe I shouldn't Betoo invested in pursuing it, you
know.
Chris (15:54):
What about you?
I knew I wasn't really good atdrawing.
Yeah, I Tried, but I feel likewhat I saw in my head was never
translated to the canvas, well,ever and that's, I think, was
one of the things.
I'm making your smile like theJoker.
(16:14):
Oh, one of the things goinginto film was I knew that I did
not want to do cinematographybecause I knew that I was not
good.
Ramero (16:24):
Like translating yeah.
Chris (16:32):
Hey, mine's not gonna be any better.
Ramero (16:33):
Yeah, this is gonna be really funny actually.
Chris (16:36):
I'm trying to do like your series, you know, like the
your serious face, that you do.
Now See if I can, if I canactually do it, I Think that
would be better than a smile,because the smiles just gonna
look yeah.
Yeah, I'm also trying not tolike make your lips like
caricature, like huge it's hardto draw like facial features.
Ramero (16:59):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, it's like either nosesand lips look really tiny or
they look cartoonishly big.
Yeah, and I don't want to makeit seem like you're six flags
and you just paid me to makethis like crazy middle of them
all.
Yeah, it's like I also don'twant your lips to look like Real
tiny didn't wipe you the lip.
No, this is a.
(17:21):
This is this is gonna be aninteresting, you're done.
Chris (17:25):
I'm done sketching.
You're so good.
It's a rough sketch, it's not.
It's it's not very good.
Ramero (17:30):
What would you say?
I think they artistically sinceI wasn't necessarily one of
your strong suits.
You remember any like projectsthat you were really proud of
how they came out.
Chris (17:41):
Whether in school or outside school, one that I
definitely remember, that Iactually enjoy.
I had a good time with this one.
We did Sounds make sense likeknowing me, but it was like
weaving Okay we would have to dolike yarn weaving.
Okay, I was really good at itbecause I could make like little
designs in the in the weavingand that was like really the
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only good thing that I was ableto do.
Everything else was kind ofterrible.
I just I was not again, couldnot translate what was in my
head onto yeah canvas orwhatever.
Ramero (18:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think that sometimes one of the hardest
things and that's part of thereason why, for a long time, I
kind of stopped doing artsystuff is because I just felt
like I would sometimes strugglewith the same thing.
Yeah, like I see it, and itmakes sense here, but once I try
to get it out, it's like whatthe hell is this?
I Think I had ceramics in highschool, okay, and my was fun
(18:45):
final project I Made a toiletbowl monster.
I'll have to show you a pictureof it at some point.
Maybe we can post it on thesocials.
But yeah it.
It originally was gonna be likeone of those you don't remember
when we were in high school wehad those like stupid, the
original memes, like the why youso means that I like the dumb
ones.
So it was gonna be like one ofthose like a bus of it, like the
(19:08):
neck and then the head.
Okay, and then halfway upthrough the head process, when I
had like the dome, like bottomhalf of the face, I was like you
know what, I'm just gonna makea slab and cut it like odd long.
I just turn this into a toilet.
So there's a the lid andthere's teeth coming down from
the lid and two little eyes uptop and then the flush handle at
the back.
That's funny toilet monster,very, very stupid.
(19:32):
But I was proud of that project.
I was like you know what youdid good kid.
Yeah, it did good.
I Made your face incrediblyslender.
Chris (19:42):
Yeah, I'm also realizing.
I don't know how quicklyacrylic paint dries, yeah, but I
don't know if I'm gonna be ableto paint on top of the other
parts.
Ramero (19:51):
Yeah.
Chris (19:52):
I guess we'll see.
I still have to figure out howto.
Ramero (19:54):
even For those of you out there if you paint or
haven't painted, consider how doyou paint a white person
Respectfully, like you only getwhite in the paint packet and
then you have to try to mix someother undertones to make an
(20:14):
actual skin adjacent tone color.
Chris (20:18):
This is way harder.
Not that I thought it was goingto be easy, no, but it's way
harder than I thought yeah.
Ramero (20:25):
I'm trying to.
Chris (20:28):
I almost don't even want to show you this, because I
think you're going to hate me.
Ramero (20:33):
I'm, I could never hate you.
Oh well, maybe no promises,it's a new day for everything.
Chris (20:44):
Yeah, guys, this will be the first and last episode.
Ramero (20:46):
Thank you for coming.
Chris (20:47):
Really appreciate your support.
So what happened to yourfriendship?
Ramero (20:51):
I made him look like Milk-Dud with eyes and he
decided he didn't want to speakto me anymore, and that was the
last time I saw him.
Chris (21:01):
Oh my gosh.
Ramero (21:05):
Okay, here's the thing.
I don't know if there's enoughwhite in the world that can
overcome how much like othercolors impact it.
You know what I mean.
Like I can't get away from pink.
Yeah, you might be a pink mantoday, that's.
You know what?
That's fine, let me see how canwe fix this.
(21:26):
Okay, well, at this point, yeah, I would just embrace it.
Chris (21:30):
You're pink, yeah, oh my gosh.
Okay, now it's turning into a,a character.
Ramero (21:38):
Essentially, chris is painting Martin Luther King over
there.
Any black man with lower hairand any type of facial hair,
you're going to come out lookinglike Martin Luther King.
Yeah, just be glad we're doingthis in 2024 and not 1964.
(21:59):
Oh gosh, yeah, I would havebeen pitch black.
With red lips, stupid eyes.
I would have looked terrible.
Chris (22:07):
How am I going to get your facial hair?
That's going to be difficult.
Ramero (22:11):
Get the skinniest brush you have.
Dip it in black, yeah.
And just give me some littleslight facial.
Oh, that was going to come outreally bad, just never mind, I'm
done talking about it.
Guys, update over here I don'tknow if Chris can see it from
(22:32):
his side.
I finally perfected white skin,at least as close as it'll get.
He's got some peach undertones.
If any of you listening orwatching are art savvy folks,
please feel free to give us somepointers on how you would have
(22:53):
not made this bad.
You can roast us.
Yeah, you can talk about howterrible is.
It's fine, I won't cry.
Yeah, I'm no stranger tointernet criticism, if you know.
Chris (23:03):
You know, should we do like a we should make up an
apology video so we can be likeall the other YouTubers.
Yeah, but like some forsomething stupid, right?
That doesn't make sense.
Ramero (23:15):
What would our apology video be?
Apologize for pretending that Iknow what I'm doing.
Chris (23:24):
And then fake cry.
But there's no tears.
Ramero (23:27):
Yeah, the thumbnail has to make it look like we're
crying.
Oh god, you're actually reallylike peach.
It's fine, it's gonna be fine.
It's fine, all right, we'regonna make it work.
(23:48):
See, chris took the approach ofpainting around where eyes
would be, which was probablysmarter.
You know, I like to live on theedge.
We're just gonna figuresomething out.
Chris (24:02):
I think eyes are probably the most difficult thing to do.
Very much, very much so Becauseto get them like, I feel like I
even need to like steady myhand to get the shape, because
it's so difficult to do eyes.
Ramero (24:18):
I concur, I concur.
Chris (24:22):
You need to leave.
Ramero (24:26):
You need to leave.
Also, if you don't already knowus or haven't watched us before
, a lot of our conversations endup degrading into random meme
references.
Well, that's fine.
Chris (24:40):
This is part of the process.
Also, if you're listening justlistening you can watch this
show.
You can see exactly what we'redoing.
You can see how these portraitsturn out.
You go to youtubecom slashbotch job sys.
I almost said non-experts.
Ramero (25:00):
We could link the two though.
Yeah, I think I will.
I think I will you find the oneand end up getting to the other
.
I also was nobody gonna tell mewhen my hand was blue.
How did it get blue, I don'tknow really, did it get on your
clothes?
And I'd for sure put my hand inmy pocket.
Oh boy.
Yeah, we're gonna start apatreon, if you want to buy me
(25:22):
some new sweatpants, I wouldgreatly appreciate it.
Chris (25:25):
We actually do have a patreon, oh yes.
Lots of this is a perfect segue, lots of good extra content.
If you want to monetarilysupport us Of course not a
requirement, but it is aIndication of how much you love
me.
It is an appreciated gesture tosupport us with your money.
(25:47):
Lots of different tier levels,so you don't have to contribute
a lot.
But if you also only want tocommit just a little bit or a
one time, oh crap, sorry you.
Alright, no, oh gosh, okay,that's fine, did you mess up big
?
time.
It was just a big wad of paintthat I was not expecting to be
(26:10):
there.
Let's do a dollop, a littledollop.
If you only want to support us,like as a one-off, that's
totally fine.
If you go to our website and goto the support tab, there will
be options there for you.
We'll take your money.
Ramero (26:27):
That's never been a question.
I'll always do that.
Chris (26:30):
But no for sure.
Definitely check out thepatreon and see if there's a
tier that you would like tosupport and if the perks are
worth it to you.
We will have lots ofinteresting things.
No matter what tier you go with, you will get your name on
screen at the end of eachepisode, so everybody will know
exactly who you are and that yousupport your two favorite
(26:53):
people.
I'm doing your eyes, and Irealize that people's eyes are
not.
Yeah.
Ramero (26:59):
People's eyes.
You know the newscaster onFamily Guy and Ollie.
With the weather, it's raining.
Thanks, ollie, is that how I?
Chris (27:08):
look over there, big eyes Kind of.
Yeah, you look like me when Iwas on news.
Ramero (27:13):
Oh yeah those were good times, mm-hmm, were they this
afternoon?
Chris (27:17):
We did.
It was a robbery down in here.
Ramero (27:23):
Oh God, Fun times in the city.
Chris (27:27):
fun times Well, I think, I don't know we are better on
camera when we're not beingscripted.
Ramero (27:34):
Yeah, I mean, you know, like when I would be doing
anything for some of the otherprograms on TV, I'd never used
teleprompter, right, I wasalways an off the top of the
head guy.
Yeah, didn't write downquestions, didn't do.
I might do intro and outro.
Chris (27:50):
Yeah.
Ramero (27:51):
Other than that, I'm just talking.
Chris (27:52):
Yeah, well, it feels more natural too.
Ramero (27:54):
Yeah, that way.
I don't like having to likegaze into the camera when I'm
really reading and then it getsreally awkward if you're
watching me, because why is hestaring so deeply into my soul?
I like to just kind of do mything, yeah, and hopefully the
shots that are thrown in whileyou're hearing me talk make you
see that I'm just so good atpainting.
Chris (28:16):
Wonder if it would have been smarter to do a time limit.
Ramero (28:20):
Maybe, but we can always do a time skip, yeah, yeah,
like well, montage style, likeput this in 1.5 time and just
let it go.
Chris (28:32):
Wait, let's pretend like we're doing.
Let's pretend.
Ramero (28:36):
Let's pretend, let's pretend, let's pretend 90 day
wait, love journey and just keepmoving.
Chris (28:39):
Yeah.
Ramero (28:44):
Lili, lili, lili, lili, yeah, oh, my goodness, let's see
here.
Chris (28:49):
All right, I think I have completed your portrait,
sayonara.
Ramero (28:58):
It's over, I'm done, that's it, we're good.
Chris (29:04):
Well, I don't know if I'm more excited or anxious to
share them.
Shall we go?
Okay, so we finished ourportraits.
Ramero (29:15):
Yes To, I wouldn't say, satisfactory level but given the
time that we had, I think youknow it was very quick.
It was like a 10, 15 minutepaint sesh.
Chris (29:26):
But I think that the works.
Yeah, it's like we could havespent all day, oh yeah, and we
had a couple of times you gaveme another 30 minutes.
Shhh, smell it.
Ramero (29:36):
Remember that You'd be shocked.
No, okay For the time we had, Ithink it's good.
Okay, and now it's time for thegrand reveal.
Chris (29:42):
All right, and on the count of three One, two three.
Oh, that's not bad.
I really like that.
Oh my gosh, I actually reallylike yours.
I really like yours.
Ramero (29:56):
I like your stern demeanor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yourquick neck and t-shirt job,
because I was like, oh wait,it's a floating head.
Chris (30:05):
I like well, the eyes are a little spooky, but I actually
really like that.
I'm gonna hang that up, thankyou.
Thank you, I'm gonna hang it up.
Ramero (30:13):
I see what you meant now about the tired look.
Chris (30:16):
You also kind of don't have a nose.
Ramero (30:19):
Yeah, I see where it was and then I see how the color
issue came into play.
Chris (30:23):
And it drowned out the nose, not my best word, I like
it.
Ramero (30:27):
I like it.
I thought let's come togetherhere.
Chris (30:31):
We put it in front of her real face.
Ramero (30:32):
Yeah, these are great, Don't you think this looks like
me, Like you know, minus, youknow if I got some sleep.
Chris (30:40):
Oh hi, romero, Nothing changed, surprise.
When the eyes look as if it'sso like.
Ramero (30:47):
I'm just gonna just.
Chris (30:53):
Stares into your soul.
Ramero (30:55):
I'm not mad at this, though I'm not mad at yours
either.
I actually really like it.
Chris (30:58):
I think we did great.
You're way better than I am.
Ah well, I way better than I am.
Ramero (31:03):
Listen, it was I.
Like your beard.
Chris (31:07):
It's too chuel, come on really good, yeah, yeah, yours
is like nothing, no, but youknow.
Ramero (31:11):
I just recently cut my beard down a little bit, so I
got the stubble thing going.
Chris (31:15):
What it looks like is those like boy bands in the
2000s when they tried to havelike really stylized beards.
That's kind of what it lookslike.
I'm not mad at this though Fora quick artistic take.
Okay, oh, it worked.
Did we already fail at ourpodcast then?
Well, we didn't fail, becausewe failed at nevermind.
(31:37):
It's too meta, too meta, youwouldn't get it.
No, you wouldn't get it.
Ramero (31:43):
Well, the clip from the Joker, you wouldn't get it?
No, these are okay guys.
I think we did okay.
Chris (31:49):
Well, I mean, that was the first episode of a new
adventure.
That's the botch job society sofar.
Yeah, this is our firstinductees into the Hall of
Disfame.
Ramero (32:04):
The BHS Hall of Destain.
Yeah, destain, yeah, we needthese in a.
For a small fee, you canpurchase these paintings, and I
don't know why you'd wanna dothat.
But if you wanna pay me, I'lllet you.
We got a lot of stuff though.
Plan maybe more painting, a lotof stuff, some chef-like
(32:26):
episodes.
Maybe it's gonna be fun.
So stay tuned for more, forsure, real quick.
Chris (32:32):
Just social medias, botch shop society across everything.
We also have a website,botchshopsocietycom.
If you go to the contact tabyou can leave us a voicemail.
We'll play your voicemail onthe show, so if you wanna be on
the show in some form then,that's the way to do it.
Ramero (32:48):
Uncle Harry, I'm counting on you.
Leave me a voicemail.
You've asked for this for yearsand we're back, so I fully
expect you to leave us avoicemail.
Chris (32:56):
I'm ready to hear it.
Ramero (32:57):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Thank you, guys.
We'll see you next time.
Chris (33:04):
Oh.
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