Know the Enemy - Georgia Tech

This week we're back to preview the upcoming trip to Atlanta to face the thirteenth ranked Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. We also Tell the Truth about a disasterfest of a Homecoming for the Hokies as they fell 30-23 to Wake. We wrap as always by giving you our Big Screener picks for the weekend.

Episode Transcript

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rhythm. Wonderful ways to soothe the
soul after a crushing the feet. Oh man, I got to throw this one
up real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Probably. And the Hokies do have another
15 yard penalty, yes. Yes, we do.
It's. Literally as any Anytime we say
a line, the Hokies just got another personal foul or.

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It led to a touch. Some sort of dumbass.
Penalty. It led to a touchdown.
We will hit that later. But Tally, you shaking your
head, you ain't saying anything.What you doing man?
Man, it ain't nothing to say, man.
You know, we fought a coach. We know what we in for.
It was bad Saturday, you know, I'll just start by saying the

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guys that are playing are playing hard and I know we'll
touch on some stuff later on 100.
Percent. But tonight, before we get into
that, as always, we are going toget to know the enemy with a
funny son of a bitch already. I'm going to say we were talking
before he jumped on. He made me laugh numerous times,

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tried to make me feel better onetime.
I don't know if that's going to work right now, that's going to
work right now. But anyway, hey, wreck talk.
Put him on the line, put him in the video chat.
He is our Georgia Tech guy. How's it going?
Love the headband by the way. You had to put the headband on.
I was sweating with anticipationto get on here.

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So I played pickleball with the Clemson fan Pigskin Pete, and I
thought, hey, put the headband on, man.
Like, look, I know about misery.No one knows misery like rec
talk. And when you have a channel,
people don't realize how low thelows are, right?
Because you'll be doing a live stream.
Everyone is hate watching you. So you go from like 100 people

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to 300 that are just there to trash you.
And that is the life of YouTube,I guess.
But yeah, how you guys doing? Yeah.
Man, right now I'm trying to figure out exactly to what
degree that I get to be a hater for the rest of the season.
Because when when you got a teamlike Virginia, Texas, like at

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some point you're just trying tolike pick people in the college
sports world. Who am I going to hate on?
So I can feel a little bit better about my situation.
And you brought up a good one just before we jumped on here.
Oh. God, yeah.
What you. All saying you were like listen
y'all ain't. You're not blue to Bill with
North Carolina. I mean that he doesn't have a

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Blue 2. Sponsorship is a crime against
humanity in and of itself. Two different people have tried
to make documentaries on this complete shit show that is Tar
Heel Nation and both have been canceled.
One because of his 23 year old girlfriend.
I mean this. Who could have seen that this
wasn't going to work out? The man that hadn't coached
college football. And this is true.

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I'm not even making this up. I'm a certified ball knower.
I couldn't have wrote that by myself.
That's all the way over there. I'm all the way over here.
He hasn't coached college football since before we landed
on the moon. These guys are addicted to
hiring geriatric patients that parade around as head coaches.
So I don't know. I mean, at least you're do you
are doing better than that you. Know what?

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It could always be worse. We can all we can always we can
always be a little bit further in the cellar.
It's, it's it's just one of those things that's frustrating
the the time in college footballthat this is happening to
Virginia Tech seems to be not not the best time, but hopefully

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we can get things get the ship righted with with some new, new
staff coming in here and things like that.
But. We got, we got to put this up.
For right now. Man, that, that guy right there,
man. My, it's like my dad told me
because I, you know, I was an idiot, girl.
I still am an idiot. My dad, you said, boy, there's
something bad wrong with you, you know, and he just kind of

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stopped having anything to do with me for a minute.
There's something bad wrong withJeff Collins.
In fact, I saw on your message boards before he went to North
Carolina, you, some of your fanswere tossed around hiring them
as DC. You called me before you hired
Jeff Collins. We'll do that.
Well, let's get into it because we got to talk about your team.

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And as these two teams get readyto meet down in downtown Atlanta
Saturday afternoon, 3:00 will you be in attendance?
Yeah, I'll be there. I'll be in Atlanta.
I'll be. In fact, we gifted some tickets,
so I'm going to go around. There's a guy that's an idiot
that sat behind me the other during the Clemson game and
yelled for the backup quarterback to come in.

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So I'm going to go tell him, give him the old what's there,
Fred? But I'll be there.
Nice. Tally, did you decide?
I know you've been playing with driving over from Huntsville.
Are you going to go? Yeah, still on the fence.
I don't know just yet. We'll know for sure tomorrow.
I don't. Know we're talking about it.

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It's only a 2 hour drive, so he just wakes up that morning.
He wants to go, He'll drive and find a ticket.
I'll let it go. There you go.
You need a. Ticket go to the strip club.
Go to the strip. Club over there.
I've got 4 tickets now if you want one.
Well, me and my wife was going to go, so I may need, I do.

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I may need to, yeah. I will talk with you a little
bit after the show for sure. Yeah, they, they're closing down
all the, all the gentlemen's establishments we like, but I, I
will find some for you. Look up Claremont Lounge.
That's where we'll end up going with.
The two meetings of the Live from the Boundary Corner podcast

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and Rec Talk go downtown Atlanta.
There has to be photos of this tally, so please, please I'm.
Going to tell you right now there ain't going to be no
pickleball playing. I got I got one good thrust in
me and then I'm done. I.
Fall out under no pressure you admitting this live on the
Internet for everybody the. Pickleball is done.

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Yeah, man. Well, it's like Vegas, you know,
I won't tell nobody. I mean, if you don't so.
Let's pull this back in. I don't know how I'm I'm
cracking up over here. Yeah, so Virginia football.
Well, let's talk about y'all man, because I'm, I'm, I'm going
to start on offense because goodLord almighty Haynes King.

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You know what tally you said? Say what you said a few weeks
ago about Haynes King and why you loved him so much, about how
he's. Playing tough.
He's a tough motherfucker, man. Like he just wants to win.
If I was our coach or whoever isrunning the team out every week,
I would put videos of Hayes Kingon the screen and say Kyron,

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either you do that or you got tocome sit down, buddy.
He is running the ball. If he has any opening, he is
running the ball and they don't want to hit him.
I don't even know how big the kid is, but I do know that
defense don't want to hit him after about two quarters.
So may not be the conventional way to use a quarterback.

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But he is a Georgia Tech legend by how he plays football.
Got to love him man. Yeah, man.
So, so rectal, what are you feeling this year?
Any different? I mean, part of all he, he is
playing unbelievable. He is like what Tally just said.
He is playing. Like in five years, when he

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walks back in the stadium, it's going to be like, there's the
God. Holy fucking shit.
It's Haynes King. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that walks in a room.
His wiener's been there for 10 minutes already.
You know, he's one of them type guys.
And here's the thing, Haynes King is a phenomenal player and
I might catch shit from my own fan base.

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He's not really a quarterback like he does throw and he has
had serious injury issues. He's just, he's a certified ball
player. He's just a ball player.
He's a tough son of a gun. You don't really know what
you're getting with them. Sometimes, though, like, you
know, we did lose against Georgia last year.
But I mean, he had like 400 yards of offense against Georgia

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by himself, won the game againstColorado, spotting them three
turnovers by himself. But like then we just refused to
play for 1/2 against Wake Forestfor some reason.
So I don't know, like my thing with Haynes is like he's never
going to be 100% healthy. Like he's going to be something

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but maybe is 80% now is Max. It's like in NCAA 26 y'all play
that he you don't know how red he is.
Sometimes it's just like the sunjust burning there.
But now he's a good one. And you know, we have a really
good backup, too, if we do have to use them.

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And Aaron Philo broke Trevor Lawrence's record in Georgia and
high school. You got some good supporting
cast members and Jamal Haynes and Malachi Hosley at running
back. One guy you probably don't know
about is a guy named Isaiah Canyon.
That's a place wide receiver. He's he's a OK now.
Go ahead and roll on him becauseit was one of the guys we wanted

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to talk about was Isaiah Canyon.And I mean kid, I mean y'all got
him straight out of high school.What second year?
True sophomore. Already.
This year, man. He probably would have played
before now. He tore his labrum his senior
year in high school. But he's just big.
Like, as bad as Clemson is rightnow, like their defense has that

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probably at least five guys are going to get drafted off their
defense. And he was dragged.
All of them. He was dragging them.
He's 64, probably 2-10, something like that.
We haven't used them quite as much.
Eric Rivers, he was all American.
That came out of FIU that we kind of swapped with.
We lost Eric Singleton, junior to Auburn.

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So offensively, like if we hit on all cylinders, like we got
guys that can play. I think we're first in the
conference and sacks allowed. We've given up the least amount
of sacks. Y'all.
Are like top 15 in the country and sacks allowed.
Y'all are unbelievable. Yeah, and part of that is an
artifact of the offense that we run.
You know, I'm not saying we havethe best offensive line in the

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country. Miami might might have that.
But yeah, the the problems for Georgia Tech are going to be
defensively. There are definitely things you
could exploit on us defensively.Well.
Let me Well, you probably ain't going to have to worry about it
much this week. I'll go ahead and tell you.
Let me throw one other name out there on office because you

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mentioned him, but I want to askhow important it is this year is
Malachi Hosley because Haynes was here last year and Hanes had
a great season. How much, how important is it
for what y'all do to have that basically third runner on the
field that can do whatever he wants whenever he wants?
Because if you ask me, watching all the games, we know what

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Hanes is going to do. We know what Hanes is going to
do. But when you have that third guy
and it's like, you know what? We still can do.
We can still run it right at youwith our third guy, and he's
just as damn good as these firsttwo.
Yeah, that's not just a Georgia Tech thing.
I mean, every team in the country's got to have three
running backs that can go and you're going to, you're going to
have three. Well, you need to, if you're

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going to have sustained success,you need 3 running backs and go.
One of them's going to get banged up at a minimum for any
team throughout the season. But yeah, Jamal hangs.
He actually pulled something, I don't know how serious it is in
warm ups before. Wait.
So we'll see. He didn't have a good game last
week, but Malachi Hosley, the guy that came out of Penn, I
think he's from Roswell, GA or something like that, Roswell

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Alpharetta. He he's a guy that as soon as
they put like pads on it, practice like he just started
running by people. He's not big, but he's really
important. And then you get into we get
like Chad Alexander back, Trollane Maddox, some other guys
that you know, can distribute that load because you can't just
bang Jamal Haynes for, you know,all game.

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You know, you got to, you got totake some weight off his
shoulders. Yeah, I mean.
Yeah, and you, like you said, you got a, you got 2 running
backs there that can, can make alittle bit of noise for you.
Let's pull back a little bit andtalk about the offensive
coordinator, Buster Faulkner. When it when it, when it comes
to scheme and game plan. Like what does he bring to the

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table? I know you know, he's a
coordinator. He also coaches tight ends for
y'all right? So what?
What's his? What's his biggest yeah benefit
that he brings to the team from a scheme standpoint?
So he so it is interesting usually your OC is your
quarterbacks coach at almost every school.
We have Chris Winky, though, on staff that's really good with

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quarterbacks. Buster.
One thing that he does like and if you watch Georgia Tech at
all, almost every play has motion in it lot of motion to
get as much information from thedefense as you can like the guys
running with the slot to the other side of the field.
All right, they're probably in man right.
He also does a lot of very, I don't know if innovative is the

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right word. He does a lot of interesting
things in the run game, like he'll pull a tight end and
tackle on a play on like a quarterback power or something.
So Buster is very good at tailoring to the strengths of
his teammate. The way he uses Haynes King is
ideal for the most part. Like, yeah, you're going to you
might stuff some of this power option stuff situationally, but

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he's going to find a way to to get Haynes King is his rushing
yards. And then you know, some
interesting past concepts on theback end of it, right, Like
throwing it, throwing it deep todamn.
I can't remember his name now. We just talked about a big 6
foot 4 kid, Isaiah Canyon, right, stretching, stretching
the field and then and then running it back on the

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quarterback power. So I think he calls, you know, a
really good game for the most part.
Didn't didn't really show against weight last week.
But I mean, look, Buster's one of the most popular names and
and coaching hires right now andhe was last season as well.
Nice. Any anything else on offense?

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Anybody else on offense we have not mentioned that jumps out to
you? You've mentioned a bunch of
names. I mean, I wanted to talk about
Haines King, obviously Jamal Haines and Hosley and he threw
up Canyon. And I was like, well, as there's
a guy I wanted to hear about andnow I'm hearing, well, he's 64,
he's 215. He ragdolls defensive backs,
yes. Yeah, I mean, I guess the the

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only other thing I'll say, and Idon't even know what to to make
of this is in more than one press conference, Brent Key
said. Yet, you know, the more hurt
Haynes King is, the better he plays, which has been true.
It was true way, you know, it was true.
Like as soon as he starts pulling this dumb and ass
routine, he'd ends up running for 45 yard touchdown or

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something. So take make that what you will.
It seems like he just got that gamer button.
Like as soon as he is in those crunch time situations he makes
the most of it and just gets gets the job done.
It's what Tally has said numerous times.
There are certain guys, they're never going to make it pro.
Now you're in the area of college football, right?

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You can make a shit ton of moneyand you can submit your
legendary status. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Look at Tim Tebow. He he was never going to be an
NFL starting quarterback for anylength of time.
He's one of the greatest collegefootball players ever, though.
Yep. Yep, not a lot.
Let's flip over to defense for alittle while here and I want to

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make something completely didn'tknow until I started doing my
research this week. You guys flipped DC's Tyler
Santucci, Georgia Tech after oneyear after coming over from Duke
and Elko's tree comes to y'all has a solid season.
Well, first of all, maybe he wasn't a solid because he went
up to Baltimore and their defense is absolutely shit right

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now and he's in linebackers coach up there.
So maybe it's him, maybe it's not.
But y'all go hire Blake Giddy and his safeties coach up at
Texas basically for their deep run last year.
And he'd been there with Sarkeesian for the last three
years. What difference you're seeing on
the defensive side of the ball this year, just with Gideon, or
is it more, you know what, he steadied the ship and we're

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still rolling? So Brent Keys had more defensive
coordinators than years than he's been head coach at wards
attack. So we we brought over or we kept
Andrew Thacker, who was a Collins hire for whatever
reason. Now I get why our defense was
the cornerstone of Keys interim year.

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He basically assaulted him on the sideline of the Bowling
Green loss and then we fire him,promote Kevin Sharer to DC, fire
both of them. So he had two DC's in the same
year. Then you talked about it.
We bring in Santucci, who I didn't even learn his name until
he was already gone. I thought his name was Santucci
and he was really good, though he came from Duke.

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He was a linebacker's coach. Our linebacker play had been
atrocious up to that point. Blake Gideon came in, which was
really exciting for us as Tech fans because we're we're really
good or most of our defensive talents in the defensive
backroom. Blake Gideon played defensive
back when he was at Texas. They had one of the best pass

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defenses in the country as far as what I've seen from him and
and he's never called plays before too.
So there there is some learning curve in this for him.
Really. The Georgia Tech defense has
been been but don't break and they've been really good at
times like turning the ball overthree straight possessions to
start a game. I don't know that I've ever seen
that I was melting down, especially because I bet

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Colorado fans I would drink a 40year old Coke if they won that
game and I was like, Oh my God, I might have to drink a 40 year
old Coke. But they gave up three points
off those 3 turnovers. I mean a point, a turnover is
pretty good. They have been lit up.
The The thing is we don't have apass rush right now.
We have to be near last. I think we're 16th in the

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conference and sacks. So, you know, we've got to be a
little more creative with how wedrop stunts and blitz, blitz
packages. But as far as what I've seen
from Blake Guinea, if you look at the rankings, right, 65th in
total defense, it's been bend but don't break.
OK, All right. And I mean, that's kind of the

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same style that we try to play, but we've been breaking a whole
lot so. Oh yeah?
Well, that would just be break. It wouldn't be.
It would be No, it's, it's bend and then break and then crumble.
Yeah, it's, it's the whole 9 yards there.
Let's flip over to. The you're right, you're you're
you're 15, not 16. Both 2.
The two of the North Carolina schools are worse than y'all

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would getting sacks when we played already.
Yeah, we got. Blue to build.
Blue to build. All right, so yeah, let's let's
flip it over though. So we got, we got these, we we
learned here about the the new DCA little bit.
Let's talk about that defensive line.
I'll let you jump in with a couple guys that you like.
I know we had kind of circled Jordan Vandenberg as kind of

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being the guy on the interior there, but is there anybody else
you want to talk about and let let the fans know about on the
Georgia Tech defensive line? Yeah, Vandenberg's good.
He came from Penn, like squats, like 600 something pounds or
something. You know, he's really the leader
on the defensive front. We lost a ton last year on the
defensive front. In fact, he's the only one
that's really played any meaningful snaps.

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It's returning this year as opposed to last year.
The old money from Texas Tech took Rommelo height.
They seem to be doing fantastic right now.
Another one. This is interesting, a kilo
stone. He's also a defensive tackle
left Georgia Tech to go to Ole mess and now he's transferred
back to Georgia Tech No, it was in consecutive season so one

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season he left to get Ole mess played down there next season he
came back to play for Georgia Tech.
He's been really good for us he's I want to say he's been
banged up. I know he's had to come out of
games sporadically. King season says Gideon has done
solid through five games for a guy who is a first time play
collar. But bad for how much we paid
him. Well I don't know man.

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What are we paying him like 800,000 a year?
I mean the the highest paid coordinators are defensive
coordinators. I think there's ADC that makes
over 3 million or something. That's it's it's Knowles of Penn
State. We know because he was going to
get paid for 1.8 million by us if he hadn't fucking went on
that run with Ohio State. There you go.
Yeah. Yeah, see.

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Yeah, I mean where we're weak onthat defensive front is at the
end and that's where if you wantto be really strong on defense
and you could pick one position to be really good at, it would
be a defensive end. I mean the the less you have to
cover, the better, right. You don't have to be that great
and in your defensive backfield if you can get to the
quarterback and that's great of problems for us.

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Like Wake was able to just run simple go routes, split, you
know, Wake was running cover 2 and split the safety and corner
at the boundary multiple, multiple times.
We just weren't able to get there.
So some work to be desired for sure on the defensive front,
which again is making over a million a year, OK.

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Still don't matter like. That's the one we had to make.
But now I'm just going to say the main person that everybody
sees or in my opinion, it kind of jumps off the page on your
defense is your linebacker. I mean, it looks like he's out
of a horror film. Face paint everywhere, got the
big cowboy collar. I mean, how has he been playing

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this year and and what do you think about him?
He's been playing well. I mean, he is a menace as far as
run stops concerned like and andjust like open field tackle and
getting a guy on the ground really good Blitzen.
But he can be exposed in coverage.
You know, anytime I see him matched up on the slot with
somebody, 'cause, look, usually your slot receivers, your

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fastest receiver, like a smallerfast receiver, He he gets
exposed a lot. That happened last year.
It's happened a few times this year.
But Efford, I mean, look, any any dude that wears a cowboy
collar and I didn't even know they made those anymore.
I I mean, I didn't see anyone wear that until he did.
Yeah. So I mean, you got something
going on. Hey, real quick, there's another

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linebacker. I I've kind of noticed a couple
times he transferred over from Oregon State and he's, he's
great and pretty high in PFF andall categories tackling
coverage. And that's Melvin Jordan the
4th. Where is he lining up?
Like is he primarily weak side or is he playing like some of
the outside linebacker? I'll be honest with you, I'm not

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sure I would assume he he's outside.
He seems like a more athletic guy like him.
We have three more athletic linebackers in like EJ Lightsley
that came in from UGA last year,Melvin Jordan came in this year
and then a guy named Jackson Hamilton that came in from
Louisville. And we've, we, we, we do a
pretty good job at rotating situationally those guys in like

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if we, you know, they bring out four wide receivers, we're
probably going to bring E Ford off and put Jordan in or EJ
Lightsley in. OK.
So he's he's more of a coverage oriented linebacker.
Maybe, I don't know. I'll be honest with you, I
haven't paid that much attentionto it.
I've been oogling over Haines King and and stuff like that.
As you should, as you should. We went to last one, Brian.

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Yeah. I mean your secondary, I know
you talked about there was some,you know some problems there as
you as Wake was coming in, especially the inability to get
get pressure on there and you know some coverage breakdowns.
But you know, we kind of circledAmari Harvey cornerback, but
want you to talk about him a little bit, maybe some of the
other guys in that secondary that have been some some
playmakers for you. Yeah, Mari Harvey's good.

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I didn't really know how good hewas until I I played NCAA 26 and
that he scored like 14 points a game as a defensive back.
But now he's been good this season, really good in coverage
together as a ton of experience,which is which is needed.
Another guy that I'm really highon is a guy named Clayton
Powley. We in the past we've been so bad

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at linebacker, like more toward his sophomore year that he had
to play linebacker. So he's a big, you know, £200
plus safety. We actually interviewed him on
the channel his freshman year. He came out of Westlake, which
is where Cam Newton came out of in Georgia.
So that they're a football factor.
We've got a few kids out of there, but Clayton Powley really

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good at at being a run stopper out of safety.
Just just reading the reading the offense and knowing where to
be on the field. I mean, hell, probably more than
half of playing defense is just knowing what spot you need to
get in. Yeah.
Oh, A. 100% being at the right. Spot doing the show lady, sorry.

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So so going into this game Saturday, obviously y'all are I
mean. What?
This might be the first. Time ever in this series with
Y'all and us going back to 2004 that anybody's ever been this
big of a favor in this game. I think it's it was 14 1/2 is
where it started. I am not sure where it is right
now. It's a lot.
Of points. That is a shit ton of points,

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but where is your? I mean, is there, is there a
concern as you're looking through your team through the
lens of, OK, we're undefeated, top 18 in the country, we're
leading the ACC. Is there any fear right now?
Like we're going to fuck this up?
Where are you standing going into this game?

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Yeah, I mean, look, do I think there's only 12 teams in the
country better than Georgia Tech?
No. No, I don't.
Georgia Tech has the benefit of a very easy schedule this year.
I mean, you look at their wins, where is the big quality win
you'd say for Georgia Tech? They don't have one.
You thought Clemson, maybe. But Clemson, you know, you can't

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get out of their own way. Can't you know they can only
beat Troy in North Carolina, which is not a great resume.
And yeah, I'm I'm certainly scared.
Like never bet. Georgia Tech is a favorite.
First of all, I hate sports betting.
And I in fact, years ago I told my dad like, I think I'm going
to take Ole mess on the money line over Alabama.

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This what he told me this for all you guys listening, he said
well, I guess if you're tired ofgiving your ex-wife all your
money, you can give the rest of the bookie.
All right, so don't don't bet onsports.
These guys know what they're doing and if you have to bet
don't bet tech as a favorite. Go watch last week against
weight Tech's a team that plays to the level of talent that is

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across from them. Like they'll they'll go beat
Miami last year, you know, and then lose to Virginia Tech.
You know, not to crap on Virginia Tech, but you'd think
if you can take care of Miami, you should have been able to
take care of Virginia Tech. And we had injury issues and all
that. I get it.
I they kept showing a stat during the weight game.
He's like 9 and one nine and oneagainst ranked ACC opponents

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after that win and 9 is 8 against unranked ACC opponents.
So we it's almost like he holds stuff back for teams that, you
know, that are these big marqueematchups that I hope that's not
like a a thing that continues with them.
But this is the exact type of game that Georgia Tech stumbles

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in. And it's been a little while
since we beat y'all. When was the last time we beat
Virginia Tech 21? You beat us in 2021.
That was first, first season we I think that was A1 score.
Hold on, I'm 90 since years A1 score loss.

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Yeah, when when you. Said the stuff with the with all
when he said the stuff with likeholding back for the good teams.
I I was getting Fuente vibes foryeah, the hokey fans.
I was like, OK, well, because Fuente always, you know, put out
a good team, even you win or lose.
It was a good game against the quality opponents and, you know,
you turn around and lose a bunchof games you had no business

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losing. And yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's wild. It might have been 2022.
It was his interim year, I thinkbecause we didn't play the year
before last and you beat us lastyear.
That was that was when we had Pyron who ended up transferring
out and broke the collarbone andwhatnot.
But yeah. I think Pyron came in in the

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game. Y'all beat us too though.
Yeah, we started Gibson, who I call cinder block feet and he he
transferred to Georgia State andand lost that that competition.
So, yeah, but yeah, no, this this game does scare me.
The only silver lining for me isit's in Atlanta.
Like I, you know, no matter how down Virginia Tech might be, I

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mean, I think Blacksburg can be a tough place to play.
Always laugh. So what it what's your big key
this week? I know what you said to play the
level of competition. What's the one thing if you say
if I look at this, if if I get blackout and drunk pass out,
forget what happened Saturday and if I wake up, there's one
stat line I'm looking and said if we did that, then we won the
game. Combined rushing yards of Jamal

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Haines and Haines King. If I knew that number, I would
tell you if it's above 160, I would say 99 times out of 100,
Georgia Tech's going to win thatgame.
And that's that's not just a Virginia Tech thing.
If Georgia Tech can get their rushing yards in, they tend to
beat whoever they're playing. Got it, Tyler.
Anything else you want to ask Mr. Rick?

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Talk here tonight, Sir. No, man.
I mean, he's giving us a lot of information.
He's he's the blow. He's been very nice to us today.
So I mean, I appreciate him being on it.
And Red. Stomped on our grave or
anything. Told us we were better than UNC.
I mean, what else can you ask for?
Well y'all don't do. Having three touchdowns, almost

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running. Y'all don't do dumb stuff like
other fan bases do, like lose everything that's good about
your team and say you're going to be better this year.
Like, I don't know, Colorado. Or hire a bunch of people that
have never coached before and say because they were good NFL
players, that's going to mean something.
Yeah, I mean, I hadn't done any of that.
Right. Hey man, we're checking all the

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boxes. Then I.
Was going to go ahead and get a.Fucking coach.
Natty incoming. Hey, oh God, don't we wish?
Don't we wish? Well, listen, Rick talk, dude.
We talked with you last year. If you were fun then, you're fun
now, Tally. Tally is going to hook up with
you. Because if Tally comes to

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Georgia Tech and y'all go to theClaremont Club and do all this
stuff, I want pictures because Ihad a feeling it's going to be
one of those nights. Y'all don't.
Remember, you should look up Claremont.
You're not going to want to. You're going to want pictures.
You're. Not going to want to look up
Claremont. My own it's you don't even go
there for gratification. You go there for entertainment.
OK, this is, I mean, what would the dive bar equivalent of of

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the titty club be? I don't know.
That's what it is though, OK. All right, all right.
The dive bar equivalent of the titty.
Club, just just. Write that down.
Just write well. Listen man, we appreciate you
taking a little bit of your timethis evening.
Talk with us on Georgia Tech, Give us a little background.
Tell everybody where they can find you in.

(35:26):
When will you be going live to talk about this game from
y'all's perspective? Yes, you can find me.
Just search Rec Talk on YouTube.I'll be there talking trash
about someone. I just did a video on old
Bluetooth Bill and how I told you that wasn't going to work
out and people didn't want to listen to me.
And I've been more right about North Carolina than their own
fans for the past three years. You can find me on Twitter.

(35:49):
Yeah, man, you can find me on Twitter at Rec under score Talk.
Because some porn bot hacked my other account so I lost that
one. As far as when I'll be going
live, I don't know. Probably at some point that
night. I usually will stream the like
the late late game that night. So like whatever the 1030 game
is. I did convert to Mormonism in

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exchange for a win against Wake Forest.
I I converted to Christianity earlier in a previous season and
so my soul is pretty cheap. It ended up working out.
Explain how we beat weight down 20 to 3.
So usually BYU plays at 10:30 and I'll stream them.
They are not playing. Are the referees Mormons?

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Is that is that what's going on?Well.
First of all, I wouldn't question the power of Joseph
Smith on the stream like that. I mean, you're welcome to, but
that's the only thing I can accredit it to.
So you're converted to Catholicism Next time you'll
play Notre Dame. I would know, first of all,
first of all, Notre Dame, you got Jesus overlooking your

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stadium. When was the last time they they
went to a natty last night and win it.
They hadn't even won a postseason game prior to that
since, I don't know, Lou Holtz was there or something.
So it's a little suspicious to me.
Oh God. I love it I love it Rick talk
great talking with you man. We hope that we continue to play
y'all so we can bring you on every year for 40 minutes so

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unfiltered entertainment. Take care of yourself and
appreciate it man. What?
By the way, UNC evidently just made a statement about Bill
Belichick. I got it up here.
This is from the UNC athletic department.
I am fully committed to the UNC football program, to UNC
football in the building here. Bill Belichick, Coach Belichick

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has the full support of the Department of Athletics and
University. Bubba Cunningham.
Therefore, after they lose and get squirrel stomped this
weekend, he's going to get fired.
It's a guarantee now. If you got to make a statement,
you got the full support. You don't have the full support.
Yeah, if you have to come out and make a statement like, hey,

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you know, his girlfriend is not actually coaching the team and,
you know, he isn't actually asking for concession money
before the games, it's not a good look, man.
I mean, I don't. Can you imagine watching Jeff
Collins coach at Georgia Tech and say I want that, I think and
hiring them. I mean, these guys are addicted

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to paying buyouts like some crackhead over here in downtown
Atlanta. I ain't never seen nothing like
it. They ought to.
Just do sports betting the they would lose less money just
flipping a coin on the spread than than their buyouts.
They're paying coaches anyway. Talk to you guys later.
Appreciate it man, have a good one.
Appreciate it. Oh my God, deep breath here.

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You know what? They may feel a little bit
better for the next few minutes at least before we get over.
Don't. You can keep looking at you can
keep looking at UNC stuff and understand that the man who made

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that statement's name is Bubba and laugh at that.
Bubba. Bubba Cunningham.
Bubba Cunningham Oh my God. Alrighty, well, I think we don't
have shovel tonight, so we're going to roll on and let's just
talk about Saturday and let's tell the truth because you know,

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versus Wake Forest, there's a 30to 23 loss.
And what went well? Well, right now we aren't UNC,
we aren't Oklahoma State. I was going to say we aren't
UCLA, but God damn it, look whatthey went out and did on
Saturday afternoon. Yeah, man.
It's but y'all, y'all bronze oweme 30 years, Tal, You've owe me

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about five years now. I'm a pretty optimistic
individual, right? Pretty optimistic.
Positive. Yeah.
I can't find shit on Saturday that went well and it won't just
because we lost there. Was a lot.
There was a lot like that. Yeah, I mean, the best thing you
could say is like the running game in the first half was

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decent. Not not spectacular, but not
awful. We went away from it too much.
Kyron still threw more than he needed to, for for as
inefficient as we were passing the football, we still threw the
ball way too many times. Good tally.

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Agreed. Agreed.
No, I think the only thing I cansay that went well was the kids
that are getting in the game areplaying hard.
And I don't see people that are in the game quitting.
You know, we're just taking tonsof plays off.
I think they're playing hard. I just think we're not a good
team. I mean, that's, that's, that's

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all I can say about. I mean, we, we got some people
that are playing that probably shouldn't be playing, but I feel
like that 90% of the kids that are getting in the game are
playing hard. So that's what I will say about
what went well. Not much.
Well, the only thing is, and this is what I get any more
pissed off about and I'm going to go Randy here for a second.

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What pisses me off is I couldn'tfind a damn thing in my opinion
that went well and we lost about7 points.
I I could not find anything likeI'm trying to say what did we do
good? What, what, what, what, what do
we do good? I don't see anything that went
well. Watch most of the games.
Well, Curtis, we can go to flip the flip the pivot to the next

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thing and say what went bad and it'll tell you why you lost by 7
after you couldn't find that much.
Number one we'll start with is fucking penalties.
That's what went bad. Penalties went horrible.
Man penalty penalties are what are what are they doing?
So the the problem that I'm seeing with the penalties, like

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penalties are penalties like you're going to get penalties in
the game. We're getting penalties
absolutely kills, drives it. It either takes points off the
board or gives them points to goon the board, gets us out of
field goal rate. Like we get penalties at times.
We cannot afford to get penalties all the time, all the

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time. How many drives it was?
I was trying to do the count 17 points right rough in the past.
Seven more. I killed 17 roughing the passers
extended the drive. They would have had to punt or
go forward on like 4th and sevenunsportsmanlike that would have
ended the drive. 7 special teamsover to center.

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Although I I was going to bust you whole, but then it was like
I looked at where that they onlythrew that damn flag because
they missed a field goal and they he had it slightly shoulder
over to center. That's the only reason they
threw it. If he makes it, they don't throw
the flag. So but that's 17 points and when

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you lose a game by 7, you just want to throw shit like that
because it's like take all that off the board, it's a 10 point
win. Yeah, I think we had one more,
though somewhere. I can't remember what it was.
I could not bring myself to go back and watch any of that game
because it was so bad, like how I felt.
But I feel like it was one more thing that we did, extended a

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drive for them or something thatwe hit somebody.
Is that it right there? No.
That's the rough of the passer, Brian.
What else? What else went bad on Saturday?
Because I'm going to try to findit.
Because I found the rough of thepasser.
I'll find the other ones in a second here.

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I mean, you know, the, the second bugaboo on top of the
penalties is not finishing drives, man.
We're, we're getting historically bad in terms of
getting in the red zone and not being able to, to get a
touchdown in the process. We're kicking too many field

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goals. We're, we're, we're, we're
letting drives fizzle at the wrong times, whether it be
because of those penalties or because of bad execution or, you
know, inconsistent play call. There's just, there's so many
reasons that we're just fizzlingout when we get in the red zone.
And you know, some of that's on Kyron, some of that's on, you
know, other areas of the of the offense.

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But at the end of the day, if you're not scoring touchdowns
when you drive the field, you'refalling behind, man.
You can't leave that many pointson the field consistently and
expect to win football games. Jordan Bass ran somebody over in
the second day or two. I don't know if it led to
points, but. I think, I think I know what
you're talking about like that was API and I do think it, I

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think it ended up in a field goal.
So that would have been another three points.
Can I say this defensively though?
Y'all, if you want to go to NCAAstats, guess who's dead last in
red zone defense. And I'm talking about dead
fucking last. I'm talking about tied with the

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most opportunities and literallycannot stop a score inside 20
yards. That's us dead last.
Well, we can't score inside of the 20 either, Curtis.
Yeah, another thing that went bad.
We're we're bad in in the red zone both ways and it hurts.
It hurts. Because Saturday, you look at

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John Loves field goal, what werethey like, 31?
Yeah. 313334 Yeah, You start doing that math, it's like, wait
a second, that means you were like snapping that ball.
It's about a six yard snap, right?
Y'all both played 6 yards. That means you were.
Inside your 15 three times. The last one you were inside the

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tent. That was the IBM.
Can't push the ball in. And I, and you know what I got
to, I got to throw a disclaimer out there because I said
something about Murray and I didn't mean to talk about him,
even though, you know, I got to come back and give my man an

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apology. I haven't really watched him.
I finally he jumped off the the page this past game.
But I think whoever what he's #9right.
Yeah. IBM is number 9.
So the other corner of safety that's been playing is he #8 no,
not 8, that's Christian Ellis. Whatever number was the one that

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wasn't turning his head, I thinkit was Brown.
Caleb Brown. Yeah, Brown's not.
Playing right now. Yeah, I know.
But I'm saying in in the first couple of games, in the early.
Season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. That's who I was thinking Murray
was. I got to, I got to tell my man
Murray that hey, man, I apologize.
Didn't mean to come at you thinking about Breon Murray.

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It was actually Brown that was screwing up.
But anyway, yeah, we are still had.
Murray gave us a good, you know,IBM had gave us a good
opportunity to go score some points, get a pick, trying to
get to the end zone. When he didn't get to the end
zone, Curtis text me and say we ain't going to score, we're
about to kick. I did text you that when he
didn't get in. 33 plays later, 3plays later, what happens?

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We kicking a foot? The field goal from the fucking
10. Wait a second, didn't we get a
penalty too on that drive to back this up a couple yards,
yes. We did.
We got a couple on. On 3rd and it was like third and
one or third and two or something, we get a penalty,
takes us back to like the seven or eight.
Curtis if the drive started withfirst down, we got a penalty on
it. That's bad.

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That's bad. That's bad.
Pitiful, Brian, what about this?Because we we mentioned Congress
play, we talked about that a little bit more, but and I don't
think Hasbro's won't get fixed this year.
No, I mean, you know, some of the elements that we we were
expecting to have have are no longer in the game, two of them

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in particular. And they're not going to be
coming back. They are off the roster and it's
hard to absorb that type of lossand expected to be consistent
because even the guys behind it,if they Got Talent, they you
know, there's a reason they're behind there.
They may not be ready for one reason or another.
And we just can't we can't get after the passer.

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And that was already a problem because we were still working in
a somewhat inexperienced secondary behind Dante Lovett,
who is also no longer playing onthis on this football team.
So you have a bad combination ofa lack of pass rush and a
secondary, particularly a cornerback group that is pretty

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inexperienced, and it's startingto show.
And you know when you add into that Christian Ellis being out
this game, that that that put them in even deeper bind.
So you're not a lot of good. And now, and I'm going to say
this and make people mad, we're O and three at home.

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O and three and unless you beat Cal in three weeks, 2 weeks, 2
weeks, there's not going to be ahome win this year.
Yeah. There's not going to be a home
win this year. That is just being brutally
honest. Barring a miracle.

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Barring a miracle, you ain't being Louisville.
You ain't, we ain't being Miami.So be prepared for that Friday
night game. Better be the Super Bowl for the
kids. All right, I'm going to go with
my what did anything happen thatwe weren't prepared for?
Me and Tali sat here and I confidence and said we're not

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winning this game. But for me, my thought was Damon
Claiborne is going to run over us.
He's going to have 120 yards, 2 touchdowns.
All the kids from King William going down there to watch him
are going to see it. Well, he gets hurt.
They don't have a running game. He goes for 29 yards.
We keep them to 90 yards on the ground.

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You tell me we kept that team to90 yards on the ground.
It was like, well, we won the game.
Like now, you lost and they scored 30.
Where did those points come from?
Points come from. They couldn't.
Win the ball, but it goes back if you can't, if you can't pass
rush and you got inexperienced cover guys.

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Even those ducks that were getting thrown out of the
backfield there were getting home.
You dropped at least three interceptions that I saw.
Just not good, man. Just not good.
And again, there's no disrespectto the coaches.
No, I mean no disrespect to the kids that's playing, but it's
like you fired your head coach because he wasn't getting it

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done. And you've had, I think we've
had four or five defensive starters that have been out
that's not playing or, you know,leaving and maybe 6 or 7, two
deep guys. I mean, you almost got to hold
you've. You've lost almost half of your
two deep in one way or another between guys that are Portland

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and guys that are injured. Yeah, right.
So it's like it's never an excuse.
You definitely want to go and win a game, but for me, I'm
like, I'm still watching, I'm still getting upset when we
don't win. But realistically, taking a step
back, looking at things, I'm like, man, these kids, right?
They can't win. They can't win together.
They don't know how to win. I mean, you've been under a
coaching staff that doesn't knowhow to win and now you got kids

(51:53):
that don't know how to win. You know, they just, they don't.
But again, we can talk a little bit.
We ain't going to stay on that long, but we can talk a little
bit about the landscape of college football and coaching.
It's coming up. I think Curtis messaged me
earlier today and said we ain't got to talk about it now.
But if. Yeah, he said, we ain't got to

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talk about it now. But if you had one person that
you're looking at as head coach,who would it be?
And I thought about it because Ithrow different names out to
Curtis all the time, sometimes playing, sometimes, you know,
just bouncing it off to see whathe says.
And then I was thinking to myself, really, I don't know.
I really do not know because I really feel like any name that

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you throw out, it's going to be a a crab in a bucket in four
more weeks because it's going tobe some coaches, more coaches
get fired. It's going to be more coaches
get shuffled. So it's like who who do you look
at? Somebody put Jimbo in the in the
in the chat again. We going to answer all the

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coaching things, but I, I don't know.
I don't know how I feel about it.
Well, we're not answering that for two reasons, because next
week we have to talk about this game and all y'all who have been
willing to talk about coaching for the last month, next week's
going to be a week because we'regoing to let you come on and you
going to put your face on screenand you don't say who you want

(53:19):
to be The next head coach. College book of the Virginia
Tech opies I've got. Mark it down.
Mark it down. Save the coach.
Batter for next week. We are thinking it's Monday
because we've got things going on all our lives that where it
ain't going to be a Tuesday. Wednesday.
Bryan, by the way, you didn't respond.
Is Monday good next week? For you, Monday is great.
Monday next week we're going to talk about the Georgia Tech

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game. Maybe something good.
I highly doubt it, but bring whoyou think you want the head
coach to be. Why did I say give you all a few
weeks? Everybody was all over John
Summerall's ass. I want the Tulane coach.
He looked like shit against Ole Miss, didn't he?
Anybody talked about him anymore.
But why not? Why don't you go with him?

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He's a good coach. Now he looks like crap.
Somebody saying James Franklin, you got somebody in mind?
You're going to come here and you're going to see it live on
there and it's going to be recorded.
So if you say something, really something stupid, everybody in
the world that watches our program is going to know and
we're going to reveal ours too. We're going to reveal our tally.

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You got five days, you got 5 days.
Think about who you want, who you want, and you can make it
realistic, unrealistic. So that's next week.
This is what I'll ask though. This is what I'll ask the the
chat when you come next weekend to talk about your coaches.
At least give us some backgroundon why you picking this coach,

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why you think they'll be good. Give us something.
Don't just come in here and say Nick Saban.
It can be unrealistic, but at least give us something.
Hey, I think Saban could come in.
He could build a program up. He may do it for two years.
Take it on as a, you know, take it on as a as a project.
He's from West Virginia. Have some kind of substance
behind it if you're going to popon.

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I get it, man. We'll run a space just to talk
crap. So when we get on air and we
want to do some talking, still don't mind talking crap, but I
just want a little bit of substance.
If you're going to come on, giveme a little bit of reason why
you pick that person. What you what you're feeling.
Somebody said James Franklin. I'm hearing James Franklin's
buyout is $50 million. OK.

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It's probably not going to be James Franklin.
So Pat Fitzgerald. Me selling out, hey, I want to
say this because you said it about bringing the sauce.
The last time we did this, people would have got on,
brought the sauce. Y'all brought it that that was
one reason when this happened, Ididn't want to do it right then
because you need to see how things matriculate.

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You need to see other coaches being fired.
You need to figure out OK, who'swho's a realistic option.
And next week we're going to be about a month and a half out
from when it's going to be announced.
It's not going to be beforehand.The only way it's going to be
beforehand is if it's a coach not coaching right now.
That's the one let's do for him.All right, last piece what we
can do better moving forward andI'm going to throw this to

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Brian. First tally you go second all.
Right. We love Kyron.
We've interviewed him. He is a hell of a young man,
nice as he can be, plays hard. But should there be a
quarterback change before some point this season?
This for me. This is you first, then Tally

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can chime in. At this point, I say yes,
because at, at this point we know what Kyron is and what he
isn't. We, we've, we've seen enough
tape at this point where I don'tthink we're all of a sudden
going to see a different football player roll out there
next week. Now what what he does is that he

(56:57):
does have games where he is playing confidently and can can
play a notch up. But the issue that we have has
always been consistency. And we haven't found the recipe
to to to get him to a point where he can play his best

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consistently. And I think at this point, it's
probably better served for us tofigure out what we have behind
him, regardless of who the next coach is, because there's going
to be conversations of who you can keep, who you can pay, all
these things. And you got two guys behind him.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Both of them have remaining

(57:40):
eligibility. So I'd at least want to see what
they have. I'd like to see what they can do
with the roster that's remainingfor this team because obviously
they don't have they're they're not coming into this like Kyron
where where they've, they've worked with some of these guys
for, you know, a couple years atthis point.
And you know, they, they're, they're coming in fresh.

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I'd like to see what they can dowith some of the talent that's
already on the roster because weknow Kyron's not going to be
here next year one way or the other.
So. Now, Kyron's a senior SO.
Yeah, exactly. So he's not going to be here one
way or the other. Exactly.
So at at the end of the day, I'dlike to, I'd like to see some
new blood in there and just see,see what if that can bring a

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little bit of a spark to the offense.
Yeah, no, definitely. Even if you just doing it for a
series or a couple of plays and trying to throw some different
wrinkles in. I mean, you got to do something.
You got to try to go win some games.
You got to go try to, you know, give some kids the opportunity
because everybody's, you know, vying for a position, whether

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it's at Virginia Tech or if it'sat William and Mary, you know,
whatever. If they're thinking about
transferring to, I will say if I'm the coach and I'm leaving
Kyron in, I'm not. He's not passing the ball 30 * a
game or 25 * a game. I think his sweet spot for me
passing the ball is probably 15 to 20 * a game.

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And guess what you're going to be doing on those other plays?
You're going to be running it. You got to, you got to.
I mean, if you're going to look right now, Hanes King has 108
pass attempts, 74 completions for 758 yards.
Again, that schedule has been easy, but still, you still got

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to go out and win the games. You know he's got 3. 100 he's
got 3 touchdown passes. Yeah, he's not, he's not, he's
not a passing. He's not a like like, Rick Talk
said. He's not really a quarterback,
you know, He's a football player.
He just goes out and does what needs to be done to win the
game. Now Kyron, on the other hand,
almost has 100 more pass attempts than him, you know, and

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that's great. We're not getting anywhere with
this crazy. Not at all, and I know.
They got an extra 197. Still.
Yeah, and I'm with y'all on thisand I think it's more for the
fact of for wrangle and pop thananything.
And I don't care who plays and who doesn't.
Or both of them play. You got to be fair to those
guys, they came here, they expected to be backups and then

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expect to compete in the future for the job If, and you don't
know if they're going to be ableto stay here or not, right?
You don't, You don't because we don't know who the coach is yet.
At least get them some game filmand everybody's like, well what
about winning the game y'all? We ain't doing.

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It we ain't doing it. We ain't five and one in
struggling. We're two and four.
It's it's one of those things where at some point, you know,
I'm not saying cut losses, but you need to look at up and down
the roster, like what's happening on defense with like
Chambers and Robinson playing over young older guys, JoJo Crim
playing over some older guys, a couple different Brett Clatter

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Brawl's playing a couple older guys.
Well, eventually you've just gotto be to the young guys.
Like, listen, go out there and play because if you're not here
next year, at least you've got, you know, 5000 snaps of game
film where you can go show somebody.
Hey listen, this is what I am. Yeah.
Let me ask you this because I mean, we're, we're getting to a
point now where just doing the math and looking at the schedule

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and I know the schedule is what it is, but when you look at it,
you don't see a a lot of wins left on this on the schedule.
So the one goal that potentiallyis still on the table is highly
unlikely, which would be making a bowl game, right?
So that's highly unlikely at this point.
So the next best thing is to getthe guys that have remaining

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eligibility a whole lot of snapsor as many snaps as you can get
them. I I, I don't necessarily like
you want to win the game. Yes, you want to go out there
and put your best out there. Yes, every week, but at the same
time you want to see what you have because this we're playing
the long game at this point. Not that this season doesn't
matter anymore, but the outcomesof this season matter a whole

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lot less than what's coming in 2026 and in the future. 100% All
right, So real quick, I mean, we, we talked with Rhett talk.
Y'all got a key for this week? A key, A key.
What's the key to a if if the hope if we're sitting here next

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Monday before we'd go into coachtalk and we're like holy bleep,
we did it. How do we do with Brian Siegel?
What's the key? The the key is going to be when
they get inside the 20, you force them to kick for three,
and when we get inside the 20, we're scoring touchdowns because
we've been awful in both directions.
If we do that with any degree ofcompetence, we'll at least make

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that a game. Haynes King's health and us
having somebody having a God game and like Stewart had
against North Carolina State, that's the two things.
Somebody having a crazy game, running the ball because it's
not going to happen in the past.And then and then the receiving

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yards and Haynes King. I don't want nobody to get
injured. I'm just saying how Haynes King
plays and like Rick Talk said, it's a lot of times where, you
know, he could get banged up a little bit.
So his health and thus running. But he also plays better when

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he's when he's nicked. So if he's going to get nicked,
he's got to get nicked enough toget out the game.
Yeah, if you if you've asked. Me how to win this game, He
needs to pass the ball like 40 times.
If Hank's Kings passed the ball 40 times, then we have a shot

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because that tells me we stopped.
We slowed them down enough running and we did what Brian
said. We scored a couple touchdowns
inside the red zone. So now they're like, all right,
we got to pass the ball. 40 times if he throws it 40 times,
then that that's what I'm sayingthe rails, well, that's what I'm
saying his. Highest this year is 28.

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That was against Clemson. But what I'm saying is if he has
to pass that much again, that was a three-point win against
Clemson. If he has to pass that much,
that's our only chance. If you tell me he's at like 18,
Oh God. It's going to be it's they
going, they going to easily cover, easily cover 14, Yeah.

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Because, because at that point if like Wreck talk was talking
about, you look at the, the Russian attack, they're, they're
going to be easily over that, that 160 mark that he was
talking about, there'll be somewhere north of 200 in those
rushing yards if he's only throwing 18 times. 100% All
righty, Brian, I, I put on there, let's talk about the
portal. Fuck the portal.

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We'll talk about the portal nextweek and we got a little more
time. Fuck that portal.
Fuck the portal right now. Next week, let's get
predictions. Is anybody predicting to win?
I'm not. No.
Dally. No.
I mean, I'm, I'm respectable. I'm tempted to to say Georgia
Tech covers Georgia. No I think I think Virginia Tech

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would cover it. May be a 14 point game.
It was a 14 1/2 last we checked.It was.
Hold on. That's what it opened at.
Let me see where it's at now. Hold on, let me get to my out
here. That indicates how much it's
going. To be, they'll RIP my heart out
and lose by, you know, 14 pointsor 10 points or something crazy
like that. 14 1/2 Fourteen and ahalf Fourteen and a half 14 1/2

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Is it? 10 to 14 point game is what I
think Georgia Tech's winning. 10to 14 Georgia Tech Good point
here by King season. He did throw 42 times in a game
they should have lost. That was against Wake.
They're 42 times. All right, well, let's get to
it, Brian. Let's look at our gambling picks
because, you know, why not? We ain't got much else to do.

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Why not? So.
We're looking like the Hokies out here, man, What the hell?
All right, well, Tally and Tallyand Shelton could come back to
500 this week. I'm truly looking like the
Hokies. We not coming back.
I know I'm not. So how did how did I go?
Actually 500 last week. That was unexpected.

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If you bet with me last week forthe first time since I think
week 1, you would have at least broke even. 100% who knows
Brian, you went all, you went a couple of sideways ones and it
works sometimes. I think you took you took UVA,
that was 1, you took UVA and what was your other one?

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Hold on. Blank and Jafferdin hang on a.
Minute averdin here, where is it?
I got it wrote down somewhere. Miami Miami saved you the two
biggest rival puts Brian in 500 last week.
Well, this week, by the way, we,we, we talked about it when we

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were chatting. Tal, I think you said it or
maybe Brian, y'all said one of y'all said it.
Like, holy shit, there's a bunchof good games this weekend.
A ton of good. Games, yeah.
At least what, four or five? Ranked versus ranked.
Yeah, right, Four or five rankedversus ranked couple, 5 huge
rivalry games. And I'll start it off and I am
going to the biggest rivalry game this weekend at the Texas

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State Fair in the Cotton Bowl, the Red River Shootout.
You ever call it a rivalry? You're not a fucking college
football saying go away, go away.
I wish I could change my bet based on the news that literally
broke an hour ago and I sent youall the message.
Like damn it, John Matee is now questionable to play.

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John Matee is Oklahoma's quarterback who's been balling
this season before he fucked up his thumb, but we.
Did you take Texas? I'll go ahead play.
Texas, I think, because if Mateewasn't going to play, I think
Texas had a chance to win this game.
I'll have to stick with it because that's what you know,
when we when when we make our picks at the time it's time to
make the picks. That was my knowledge.

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Texas 1 1/2. Please don't let Matique play.
Y'all can beat Texas by a point without Jon Matique playing and
still get a win. Texas.
Sheldon Rd. letter right along with you there bud.
Tally you. Texas.

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And even without the informationon quarterback, I went OU here I
think. That you did.
I thought it was going to be a scraper by OU.
Regardless, I I haven't liked what I've seen from Texas at all
this year so far so. They trash.
They do, right? They're trash.
I mean, they got stomped in the swamp by the Florida team.
So yeah. All right, next game is who's up

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next, Sally. Hi, Lee.
I'm definitely going to be a LSUfan for this game.
I hope they win by 40 points because I'm a hater and one of
the things I want to hate on is South Carolina.
But I am taking South Carolina in this this point spread just

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because I want LSU to do that. And unless you that defense
hadn't looked that great to me. I mean, offense, the office
hadn't looked that great to me, so I don't think they're going
to score enough points to beat them by 10 points.
Yeah, when we were when we were doing the picks for this and,
and and Tally dropped his and I was like, you know, he gave his

(01:09:57):
justification. I was like, OK, so we're we're
in full hate mode at at this point that that's all we have to
cling on to for the rest of the season is being haters.
And I'll, it's fun. As depressing as it is, it's at
least a little fun to hate on that.
But I think South Carolina's going to keep this one close
enough to to cover there. But I do think LSU takes the

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victory, so I'll take South Carolina as well.
I'm going to take South Carolinaas well, but for for another
reason. A no Smyers out Garrett.
No Smyers not playing anymore this year.
He's done done. Yep.
And I think 9 1/2, and by all means, I mean South Carolina

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could have been in Missouri the other week.
South Carolina could easily be 4and one right now.
I think they cover and I think they got a chance to like pull
off a massive upset down in Death Valley.
I mean, I mean, because if you shame the first thing you throw
is just throw the line like theyain't got a starting

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quarterback. And they say they're going to be
just about 10 points. Yeah.
Shelton, I think he rode along with us.
That is a across the board. That's a BCP suite baby.
Yep, next is Shelton's pick. Not here.
BYU, Arizona. Arizona, the unranked team at

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home getting the 1 1/2 points. An 8:00 game out of 1030 game by
the way. So this will not be rec talks
game of the week that he live streaming.
But Sheldon, what did he say? What did Sheldon say?
Sheldon's riding with Zona Tally.
I'm riding with Zona as well. B Ron All.

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Right. Not so fast, guys.
I'm gonna go with this. I'm gonna go with the Mormons,
man. We had we had them come up
earlier. Might as well ride with them,
baby. All right.
I'm going Arizona too, and here's why.
Unranked team. Y'all know who BYU is playing
next week? Who we got?
They play in Utah in the Holy War.

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Their mind is not going to be onplay in Arizona.
Their mind is going to be playing Utah at Utah next week.
They are going to stumble, lose their undefeated record before
they go to the Holy War. Arizona plus 1 1/2.
Ryan, where's our last stop on this wonderful trip?

(01:12:32):
Oh, you know where we're going. Eugene, OR.
Yes, Sir, yes Sir. This is probably the marquee
matchup of the week. I was kind of fighting back and
forth on this one, even with that line.
But ultimately where I landed isI think it's going to be about a
touchdown victory for Oregon. That hook was a little too much

(01:12:56):
for me. I think Oregon's going to roll
them. I don't think I think I would
have taken this at 9:00 or 9 1/2.
Oregon rolls up there. Indiana crashes back to earth.
They're truly first. We saw what happened last year.
They beat shit out of everybody.Then they had to play a big boy
and they got thumped. They going to get thumped again.

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Yeah, I got to go Oregon. I can't really.
I can't really choose any Indiana games.
I think it was Jason last year. Was it Jason or Robbie J?
Jason, that would throw. Throw some in there, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, it was.
Robbie, Robbie was a hater. He's like, he's like anytime

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Indiana's on here go against them because they don't win the
big games. So Robbie's who I'm talking
about then? Yeah.
So Robbie said there was pretenders last year, not saying
they're pretenders this year. I just need to see more for me
to put them on the on the win column, on the on the spread
all. Right, so there it is.
There's all our big screeners. A little short episode this week

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because I do believe in next Monday we're going to probably
go a full 2 hours easy. 2 hours because we'll talk about the
Georgia Tech start. Jumping on start talking about
the coaching. It's going, it's going to go a
little bit bad. So there's some new folks in
here, Brian. Just tell them what will happen
next week so they're prepared. Yeah, so next week, what we're

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going to do, we're going to have, we're going, you know,
recap what happened with GeorgiaTech.
We'll, we'll, we'll break that down.
And at some point in the episode, I will drop the link to
join the stream as people, you know, click the link.
They'll come into the the green room there and we'll try to work
you on as, as quick as we can. Try to come in, make your .2 to

(01:14:47):
3 minutes, something like that. Try to try to be succinct, get
your point across, but but definitely, as Tally said
earlier, come with come with some, some credentials, some
backup as as far as the reasoning and and all that.
Don't just, you know, throw names at a wall and say, all
right, see you later. Exactly.
All right. With that being said, Tally, we

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turn it in early tonight. Let's get some sleep, boys.
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