September 4, 2025 • 52 mins
We now turn our attention to Vanderbilt with the specter of last year's opener still blazed in our memory banks. Will the Hokies get right against their second SEC opponent of the early 2025 season or will Diego Pavia and Company work some magic in Blacksburg?
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As we get into know the enemy, it is the Vanderbilt Commodores.
They're coming in want to know after a 45 three win versus the
mighty Charleston Southern. Yes, I do say that
sarcastically. So, yeah.
But you know, we we the best thing about doing this is kind
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of reintroducing yourself to guys because a lot of the
players they had last year are still here this year.
And let's just talk about it's Tim Beck, Jerry kills offense.
Best thing is this year we got tape on we have tape of what
they're probably going to do unlike last year, although you
thought we know we're don't do. But obviously when you're
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talking about Vanderbilt, you got to talk about what is he
like 32 now? He keeps applying for years of
eligibility and they keep randomeligibility.
I'm I'm trying to be a joker here, but Diego Pavia, you know,
guy burned us last year, got us on numerous things started off
hot this year against VFCS foe throwing for 275 and three
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touchdowns. But you know, if you don't know
his game, Brian Talley, I don't know which one are y'all going
to talk about him? But y'all go ahead and kind of
get that little high level stuffon him and Sheldon kick in
anything you got. Yeah.
I mean, we know Diego Pavia, man, he's a dual threat
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quarterback. He's got that that that moxie in
the pocket, that pocket presence.
He's what you call a gamer. He's not really physically
imposing, but he makes plays, especially with his legs.
We saw him a lot last year, you know, running kind of a triple
option look out of the shotgun down in Nashville.
That really, really gave us a ton of problems and we couldn't
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get off the field consistently and it ultimately bit us in the
end there at the end of the gameas well.
Tell me what you got. He's just probably just a
nightmare because he's just a football player.
I mean, he's a good quarterback,but you know, when you watch him
play, he's not scared of anything, not not too big, but
you know, he he's going to go get it.
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You know, he's making people miss in the open field.
You know, he's very heady when he gets along that sideline.
He knows right when to take thatstep out.
So you hit him late and he makesthe he makes throws.
You know, he's got some players over there.
We'll talk about a couple of them here in just a minute, but
definitely, definitely going to be we'll have our hands full.
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But I say all that to say different type of quarterback
than Sellers, but he's not better than sellers.
Sellers is not, you know, I don't think he's as good as they
hype him up to be. I don't know if he's the number
one player that like they saying, but different type of
quarterback. But I don't think if we can keep
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sellers in the pocket a little bit, we can kind of keep Pavi in
there. So I'm hoping that we've done
some things at him that he hadn't seen.
Shove. You got anything on him?
Yeah, last year he had the 4th best PFF grade when throwing
from a clean pocket, which is considered one of the more
predictive and stable stats for for evaluating quarterback play
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is pocket, you know, pocket presence.
The other quarterbacks on that list, Cam Board, Jackson, Dart
Shooter, Sanders, all above him.And then Tyler Show, Will Howard
and Tommy Castellanos for the next 3.
So that's a list of really good quarterbacks, almost all NFL
guys or guys that will be in theFL pretty soon.
So he is a he's a very calm and imposing presence when he's
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thrown from the pocket. Yes, he is all righty.
And who does he like to throw to?
Well, the guy's 64. He's like 245.
Talk about Eli stores. He absolutely torched us last
year. This year already starting hot 4
for 86 against Charleston Southern last weekend.
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Did not have a touchdown, but averaging 21 1/2, 21 1/2 per
reception. And if you go back to the game
last year against us, he put up similar numbers.
He led them in receiving yards against Vt last year, it was
only two for 46, but everybody else was held in check pretty
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much. I think the next guy was like at
30. So he is that guy now.
Tally, You played it. You've seen him play.
Obviously you've seen him play, you know, in person.
You probably watch the Alabama in the Texas game last year.
He's a he's a match up nightmare.
He's a match up nightmare. Not because he's like he's not
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like super technical on routes. So he's not going to, you know,
Juke you to get open like you see a good wide receiver do.
But he just has he's like an NFLtight end, you know what I'm
saying? One of those hybrid tight ends
that's too fast for certain people to guard him and too big
for other people to guard him. So he uses his body to get where
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he wants to go and he can high point the ball with that big
frame. So he's a, he's a nightmare to
deal with. We have some people that can
deal with him. That's why we play the game.
But he's a he, he's going, he's going to be fun to watch.
Man, I, I pay attention to tightends all the time and he's one
of those. He's one of those, but like
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Notre Dame, Penn State type tight ends, you know what I'm
saying? Just kind of they should be a
wide receiver, but they're so big because I don't see him
doing a whole bunch like in the running game where he's just
mauling people. You can block a little bit, but
he's out there to catch the ballso.
Yeah, I mean, he's the guy that went to New Mexico State as a
quarterback, so very much a Logan Thomas transition type
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guy. Yeah, just did it, you know, in
college before he got to the NFL, You know, he's got that
similar type skill set. Just a a a body can make a play,
like I said, like Tally you said, but not very technical,
isn't a great blocker. He does.
He's not going to do a ton from a blocking standpoint, but he's
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he's just a playmaker. Yeah, 100% and it showed in last
year. You know, I mean, the the really
big game last year is he, I mean, he didn't torch us, but he
made a couple big plays for us on us last year.
His big game last year. Go look at the Alabama tape.
He crushed them. He crushed them last year.
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And I know hopefully everything's going on with
Alabama stays because I'm sure Tally's having a nice laugh this
week down in his home state withsome of those fans.
But yeah, we lost Shelton. I don't know what Shelton had.
Shelton, did you get? Did you have anything on Stowers
before we move on? Nope.
Nothing. Nothing on Stowers.
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OK, let's talk Cedric Alexander,another one of the guys we saw
last year. It looks like he is their lead
back again for the second straight year.
Just 83 yards on on 12 carries on Saturday against Charleston
Southern. But you know, last year right at
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800 yards total from scrimmage. So we definitely have some pass
catching ability. Anything else, Brian, just kind
of reviewing your notes on it from last year and maybe looking
a little bit this year? Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that
last year, you know, he he was healthy start of the year, kind
of faded as the year went on with some injuries and had some
problems with that was a little less effective, a little less
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explosive. But sounds like he's healthy,
rounded into form. You know, when he's in form, he
does a good job of making the first person miss and he does
have some explosiveness where you can hit the long one on you.
So that's that's one thing We'regoing to have to make sure that
we're we're keeping him in checkthere.
And you know, when we look at a team that was struggling with
some missed tackles, we want to make sure that we're tackling
sure on him in the backfield. He's a good athlete, man.
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He made a catch in that, in thatwhatever whoever they just
played Charleston Southern, Yeah.
Pretty much. Yeah, he made a a hell of a
catch for a touchdown. I believe he's just he's a great
athlete. You know, it's it's fun to watch
him play, You know, not a fan ofVanderbilt, but I'm a fan of
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good football. And to watch him, watch him do
some of the things he's done andthen seeing him live last year,
you got to go hit him, you got to go hit him.
You can't you can't come up and and play around if you want to
get him to the ground. So again, I think that we have
the defense to do it. It just comes down to what the
game plan looks like and do we want it.
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I think Virginia Tech is one of those one of those teams schools
that should always have an underdog mindset no matter what
It feels like. You know all we're we're seven
point favorite. They should.
The coaches should just instill it in their in their team that
you're on the everybody should. Always feel disrespected.
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Always should feel disrespected.Man.
This team embarrassed you last year, you know, you went down
that of their house and people was falling out and fainting and
all type of junk and they had half the stadium closed down
because it was raggedy. Whatever.
Had it still closed down they they still have an open up the
end zone. And listen to freaking country
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music walking in there and walking out.
Hey, ain't done wrong with country music.
I hate country music. I don't want to.
I don't want to hear Luke Bryan,Brian Luke, Dennis the Menace,
whatever their names is. I want to.
I want, I want to hear Inner Sandman.
How about that coming to Blacksburg, you hear Inner
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Sandman and I want the team to go out and feel disrespected and
go win. And I ain't talking about a
three hour stomach ache. I just want you to go.
I want to be able to get up going.
To get a cigar and a whiskey. And and just be rambling in the
pantry for chips and not worriedabout that play because we
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already up, you know, 21 points and I ain't worried about them,
man, go make a statement. That's what I want.
You to do if. Somebody let Luke Bryan know
it's on site when Tally sees him.
And. Then you know when you go to,
you know when you go to Nashville, all of their bars are
named after somebody country. They like, oh, this is this is
Blake Shelton's place. I'll be like, what kind of food
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they got in there. I don't care about Blake
Shelton's pretty cool. Now.
I ain't talking to talk about itabout that, but I don't care
about all that stuff. I'm trying to get up here to see
this game. So we want to hear in a Sandman.
That's what we want to hear. Get that?
Country music. There you go all right, one last
piece wanted to talk about theiroffensive line.
You know looks like they had a set 5 going out there again,
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they were playing like tally youjoking?
Literally, I think Charleston Southern was the worst FCS team
last year, So it literally was they were playing school for the
blind. But something I was listening to
and it caught my eye. Excuse me, it caught my ear was
they feel some of their fans, some of their podcasters feel
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that they really do not have a true tackle on the team.
It's just a bunch of guards. But with what they do, it makes
sense, right? They're running a lot of option.
They need to get guys up field. But the one thing that caught my
eye stat wise against CharlestonSouthern, not a good FCS vote.
They have three offensive holding penalties.
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That says something because, Brian, when there's an offensive
holding penalty, what does that usually mean to happen to the
offensive lineman? You're either getting beat or
the refs on some bullshit. And I think at a 28 nothing
game, I don't think the ref was on bullshit.
So Brian, anything with any of these guys?
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Shelton, anything, 'cause I I'llbe honest, I watched a couple
highlights, but it's like, can Ireally watch this?
Can I get anything out of it? No.
Yeah, I mean, there there's someton that jumps out.
You know, you kind of highlighted it, right, with, you
know, this is going to be a an option focus offense.
You don't need a true tackle outthere.
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I mean, there this is still a team that's going to be dropping
back. But because of the way they run
the football and the way they use that, that rushing attack,
you're going to have some built in buffer for a pass rush
because of that, except in obvious situations, right.
So, you know, you don't need a true like blind side NFL caliber
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tackle out there. But I, I, they, they do a pretty
good job of, of what they do well in that option game.
I'm, I'm interested to see if wecan do well on those first and
second downs and we get them into those more obvious passing
situations, how we're able to exploit them.
But with with not having, you know, really traditional tackles
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on that, on that off the line. Shown anything on the old line
from your statistical point of view.
No, I think anything I'll you can give me back in a SEC.
I'm looking up some stuff. All righty.
Well, that's the offense, I mean, and we and we know what
they are. We all saw it on tape last year.
We just got to be better this year because last year The thing
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is, and we'll all sit here and say it, defense didn't play
great last year, but we still should have won the fucking
game. That's that's it.
Like the defense didn't play great.
The offense didn't play great for 1/2 I'd.
Say 3/4. I ain't, I'm, I'm not going to
give you a half because they were parts of the second-half
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where they just disappeared at times, you know, like at the
end. All right, let's go over to
defense. Big story on defense.
Can I can I say something about offense while we go?
Absolutely, Sir. That's what we're here for.
If if Chance Fitzgerald comes toBlacksburg and has a legacy
game, I'm going to lose my mind.OK.
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I'm going to lose my He'd betternot even have a catch.
He didn't have a catch against Charleston Southern, right?
He comes back to black if he comes to Blacksburg and I hear
his name called. No disrespect to the kid, but
I'm just saying one planet Tech,he ain't playing that game if he
comes back. Because see, that's what we
normally do. We usually give people who ain't
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the caliber to have a legacy game.
We let him have a legacy game todo from Syracuse last year.
I don't even know his name. Fucking catching balls all on
us. A kid from Duke probably never
caught a football a day in his life.
Had a 93 yard bomb the first play.
You know different. Nick Harbour doing it.
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Nick, you know he's a good player.
NFLNFL guy, right? If y'all let Chance Fitzgerald
come to Blacksburg and head top you, I'm on nut top you.
There you go everybody. If I get that, if I get that,
no, he did not have the catch against Charleston Southern.
He did not have a catch against Charleston Southern.
So there is that. Sean, if you got anything on
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offense, we'll let you kick backin here.
I want to click over the defenseand talk about kind of a kind of
a big story. Last year.
Big story was Parkley was tryingto save his job.
Parkley took over the defense and they played pretty well last
year, pretty solid all the way Vanderbilt standards.
But he has decided to turn that over and he is turning it over
to a guy by the name of Steve Gregory.
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Well, Steve Gregory is a former Patriot and he was on staff last
year, He was a consultant last year at Vanderbilt.
He had been in the NFL since 2018, various various positions
with the Lions, the Dolphins forabout 6 years there.
But he's turned the keys over tohim.
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And the one thing if you if y'all noticed and it kind of was
pointed out, he likes to be a little bit more aggressive.
Where if you've known Clark Lee like a Notre Dame and where he's
coached, Clark Lee is a more buttoned up approach.
Very, do what you do, stay in your zones and we're going to
win the game. This guy's a little bit
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different. So saying all that, Brian, let's
take a look at a few of these players here and I know you and
Tally got a couple guys highlighted who you want to
start with. Let's start with CJ Hurd, man, I
feel like he is the the biggest playmaker on their defense.
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He's a very sure tackler, big high motor guy and when you look
at the back end of that defense,he's really the quarterback of
that defense. He's their leader.
He's the undisputed leader on the defense.
So he's really the biggest difference maker that they have
on that side of the ball. Yeah, and he came in as a
transfer from FAU and 80 plus tackles last year there.
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Didn't play much, but found the ball in the air against
Charleston's southern 4th pick. So he's already making his voice
heard there. And again, it's it's it's why
you why you, you love the Portaland why you hate the portal.
Because in the old days he was just played at FAU.
He would have never made his wayup.
So yeah, tally who you got you want to talk about here?
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Mulan's brother? Was it Elan?
I don't even know where you're from.
I ain't going to try to pronounce that last name, But D
Taco. D Taco didn't play in the first
game, right? We didn't.
Get it in the. First grain, but they they talk
a lot about him. Supposed to be a monster in the
middle. Hopefully we don't see him.
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I don't care if we don't see him, but bro is.
Big Man 667-3312, something likethat.
It's a big dude, man. He's a big son of a bitch.
Yeah. So we going to have to get him
off the line. You know, we're going to have to
do some stuff to create some space so we can move.
But again, I don't think that he's going to be more talented
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than what we've seen this past week.
And this is what I'll say just about the team in general.
No disrespect to Vanderbilt. A lot of talk about Vanderbilt
last year, right? I know they're trying to build a
program. How many games did they win?
Did they win six games? They did.
They won six games. They're Virginia Tech, you know
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what I'm saying? They a lot of people was, but
I'm saying a lot of times peoplelast year were talking about
them like because they beat Alabama.
This ain't the same Alabama as when Nick was there.
So no disrespect to Randy. They beat us, they beat Alabama,
but they still only won six games.
It's true. We've got to go in and punish
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teams like this. Just go in and play.
Go in and do what you do. Don't go in with this
conservative shit. If you can get these receivers
one-on-one like South Carolina was playing us, they can beat
their they can beat their corners.
Let them go beat them. Karen.
I'm going to say this about Karen too.
Before we get to the end of this, I was going to talk a
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little bit about it on keys to win.
If I'm a coach, I'm not a coach,but if I'm a coach in that
locker room or somebody recruiting or, you know, one of
them young ladies who help with whatever they do.
I will pull Karen to the side and say, listen, man, this is
what you need to do. You ain't going to the NFL.
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This is just what I would say. I don't know if he's going to
the NFL or not. You ain't going to the NFL.
Just get that through your head and think about this.
You just need to focus on being the best Virginia Tech
quarterback that ever there everwas, right?
You may not be, but that's what you need to focus on.
You need to be the guy probably like, what's the Texas
quarterback that just left Quinn?
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Yours, right, Yours. Be the guy that gives Virginia
Tech back. You go out and you win eight
games this year. You can come to Blacksburg and
do whatever you want to do. You're always going to have a
great name in Blacksburg just because of what you did this
year. You ain't got no more years.
If you got to run, go run. If you got to throw, go throw.
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Go back to the bowl game when itwas raining.
I don't know how many rushing yards Kyron had.
And I'm not saying we need to run him like that, but I got so
fucking tired of him. And the commentators say, oh,
they don't want him to take hitslike that.
He ain't no he know what he doing it like.
He's been playing football a long time.
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He's about the size of sellers. They weren't saying sellers
taking hits. Sellers was getting crushed too.
With a he's a strong guy. He's able to get up.
Kyron can do that too. And he got.
It he's not some injury prone kid.
That's, I get it. Y'all are frustrated.
Everybody's frustrated because not y'all, but I'm saying the
chat, the fans, because I've heard people say, you know,
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Kyron is this and that Kyron gives us the best chance to win.
Kyron just has to go out and beat Kyron.
If you got to go and get 10 yards and get out of bounds, go
do that. If you got to go get 5 yards and
get down, stop going head first,slide and make them hit you and
get 15 more yards. Play this game smart.
Go out and be the best Virginia Tech quarterback that you can be
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and let the chips fall where they may because there may be
some more inspirations. That may be some NFL in there.
But we got to for Kyrie to get to the next level, he's got to
win eight games. He's got to turn some heads with
the fan base, with the people who are watching him because
right now he's an afterthought, you know what I'm saying?
When he's playing other, they'regoing to talk about Diego Pavia
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more than they talk about Kyrie $10,000 more and he's at your
house. When we played at Miami last
year, he was pissed off and he went into that game and you
could tell that he wanted to show that he was the same
caliber as as, as, as Cam Ward. Not saying that he is he's his
own quarterback, but I'm saying he should go into every game
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pissed off and say I'm going to get disrespected.
I got to go out and earn every bit of respect I got to get.
So if I got to run this motherfucker 50 times a day for
us to win, that's what I'm goingto do.
Because if you go back and look at MM was probably the best to
do it at Virginia Tech, he wouldhave 100 yards passing and 100
yards rushing. If that's what he had to do to
win. Just saying I'm off my soapbox.
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I'm a let it go he. Won't let it go, Shelton I'm I'm
going to wrap this up a little early.
I'm going to hit one more playerand then we're going to get into
keys because tally Cali, I'm assuming you read some stuff and
it just set y'all anything offensively, defensively,
statistically that is or data wise jumping out to say if we're
going to beat them or if they'regoing to, if they're going to do
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the unthinkable, it's this. Yeah, not really because you
know, they they had some high PFF graders like mouse capers,
one of their they're edge guys, third highest graded SEC player
right now. But again, only one opponent.
It was really bad. So I don't know how much to make
of that. But I would say look at some of
the analytics. They're they're pretty balanced
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overall offensively and defensively, you know, top 45 in
both, you know, both metrics. So I don't know, I mean, they're
they're kind of a little, a little bit maybe what Vt was
last year, just kind of good, good on both sides of the ball,
but not like a lead. So yeah, I just, I, I don't know
what to make of them yet, just based on the small sample size
and the fact that they, they haven't really played anyone,
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anyone of notes. Got it.
All right, one last thing to know, Brian, I'm going to just
jump through this. Langston Patterson, he's their
leading tackler. He got 10 tackles on us last
year. Basically, motor guy, all that
fun stuff. Langston Patterson, let's get to
the keys here. Brian, I'm going to let you
lead. I'm going to let Tally get his
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breath here. But Brian, what's your key to
this game? You need to score points on
offense. And I mean literally we didn't
score any points on offense of the the special team scored.
You know, they kick, they kick some field goals.
We got a safety, but we didn't score offensive points.
So you got to do that first. That's the first thing you got
to do if you want to beat Vanderbilt is actually score
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offensive points. So go out there and do that.
Let the let's, as Tally said, let the chips fall where they
may. Shelton, what about you?
What's the key for the Hokies this week?
Yeah, I would say contain Pavia,keep him in the pocket I
mentioned you know his his pocket numbers.
First of all, you want to you want to pressure him obviously,
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but he had 276 scramble yards last year for Vanderbilt, 8
rushing touchdowns, of course, one that came against Virginia
Tech. So you got to limit him there
and just try to get as much pressure on him as you can
because if you let him sit in the pocket all day, he is going
to make you. Pay for it.
All right? I'm going to go to me next
because Tally lets you close it out for me.
I'm going to pull up the wife's little comment here.
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Make him pay, make Pavia pay. Be a goon.
Be the assholes. You know what hit him?
Swimming, if you get a 15, make him pay.
He's got moxie, he's got will. But it's like anybody that's
ever been punched, you get keep getting punched and keep getting
hurt. A lot of times you lose that
energy to keep going forward. You see it in boxing matches,
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fights, UFC fights all the time.Somebody keeps sticking you and
keep hurting you. It's like I I got to do
something different here. Make him pay.
Whether it's in the pocket or when he scrambles, make him pay.
Good things will happen. Tally.
I'm going to keep saying it, offense has to take the layups,
man, and you got to make them. You know, if it's a 5 yard play
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there, I'm not putting it all onthe quarterback, all on the
receivers, all in the line. It's as a whole.
If it's a 5 yard pass, let's, let's, let's get the five yard
pass. You know, if there's a 10 yard
scramble, take the 10 yard scramble.
Kind of like what you said, Curtis, and what Dwight's saying
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in the in the chat. I mean, you got to go out and
have a little bit of asshole to you, man.
You got to go out and you got tofeel again.
I hate that. I don't want nobody to think
that I'm putting this all on ourquarterback, but I got a lot of
faith in Karen drones, right? And just for him, you know, he's
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AI. Don't think that we are.
I don't think that we have anything else in the well that
is as good as him right now. Maybe coming up, maybe some of
the youngsters, I don't know. But if they were, if they were,
if they could be on the field for us to win, they'd be on
that. So I need him to I need him to
go out and feel disrespected. Like I said, they're coming to
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your house that that you're going to hear a lot about Diego
Pavia, another six and six quarterback.
You know what I'm saying, that that ain't one shit that
everybody's going to talk about how great he is.
All Karen got to go out and do is take the layups and put some
down points on the board. Go some points.
Score some points. All right, let's get our
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predictions in here. Shelton, I'm going to start
with. You yes.
So my prediction I, I, I, my brain says that pive is going to
light Vt up, which I think is probably true.
However, I do think Vt is going to find a way to get a win.
I think it will be the first onescore victory for the Hokies in
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three years. I'll say I'll say 27 to 21 US
high score, but I do think the Hokies will will find a way to
get a win and get that power fornon conference losing streak off
their backs for the first time in eight years.
Please please. It was in the chat somebody had
It's eight years to the day, West Virginia at FedEx Field
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back in 2017, Brian. Brian's got a y'all if y'all
didn't pay attention last week, Brian's got.
Brian's got a vendetta right now.
Yeah man, I I'm going to commit to the bit at this point.
I got to see us take care of AP4opponent before I'm going to
move off of this. I've got us losing A1 score game
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to Vandy 3027. Jesus Christ.
Well, he said he's going to do it, he said.
Until they proved him wrong. He's got to.
I don't blame him. You.
Got to show me you can take careof business against a Power 4
out of conference at home, man. And I haven't seen it.
So I need to see it. And until I do, that's what I'm
going to have there. You go tally.
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What about you? I want to go with Brian, but I
can't do it, man. I just can't.
I can't say it. You know what I'm saying?
Even if I thank it and believe it, I can't say that.
So I got to say I'm leaning moretowards the shelf, but I think
it's going to be more like a 10 point win.
I'd be too nervous to say we winin A1 score game.
So I'm going to say I'm going tosay a 10.10 point victory.
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I don't know how how deep we go into that, that scoring scoring
thing. And I just want to hit on what
Andre Andre says here. Just curious, is Drones really
better or does NIL have something to do with him
starting? Sometimes the NIL does have to
do what people starting. Our coach is on the hot seat.
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That seat is hot. It fucking feeling like his ass
is feeling like pins and needlesare sticking it right now.
If somebody else is better, they're going in the game.
If he goes out and he ain't goodenough, somebody else is going
in that game. That's just my feeling.
If he doesn't have a good practice, like if you don't,
somebody else would already be in.
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So I think drones is the best. That's just my of of what we
have. So that's just my assessment.
I could be wrong. But back to what you asked
Curtis. We going to win by 10 points.
Win by 10 points. I I am going to go 3123.
Technically that is A1 score game, one score game, but I
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think it's one of those things where like the the faith I have
in the defense right now is I I put up 23 and the way I'm seeing
this in my head, they're gettingto 23 would like a score with
one minute left to go. Like like they had to drive the
whole field in the fourth quarter and they finally punched
it in and you know, they have todo it on side.
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We recover game over, we kneel on it.
So by 8, I think we all hope it's this score though, so we
can all be. I know Brian's going to come
over to the house Saturday night.
We're going to have some drinks,eat some food, watch a game.
So, yeah, but throw your predictions because again, I'm
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going to say this and I and I and I said I was going to say at
the beginning of the program, but I decided, hold on.
I think this is the biggest gamefor Brent Pryor because if you
lose this one, there's going to be a lot of people.
I'm not saying they're not goingto tune in, but like you, you
can't be the guy you started O 1-2.
You lost a home game. Like you've got to win this game
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because as you look at the schedule, you win this game and
you start touting out everything, right?
You could win quite a few in a row going into October, but if
you don't win this one, there wego.
It's going it's going to get ugly.
They're. Going to get ahead potentially,
I don't know, fast, maybe like come November fast.
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But was you? On was you on X after this last
game? You get, you know it's going to.
Get ugly off, Yeah, Whether the whether the the win loss record
gets ugly or not, it's going to get ugly behind the scenes.
That's what I'm saying. Well, the whole thing is and,
and, and I made this point to a guy at work today.
Y'all ready for it? Brent Pride has two years left
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on his contract. Two years because he had a six
year contract. First of all, this guy get fired
because we ain't going to be allowed.
Brian, you said at the beginningback a couple weeks ago if we
ain't fired by mid-october, you are not getting a new football
coach next year. The second thing is going to be
the buy. If you fire him this year, this
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year and you got to pay 26 and 27 and then you got to pay, you
better have $30 million. Whit's already screaming to the
board, I need more money. If you fire Pry after this year,
better come up with $30 million because that's going to be his
buyout, plus to pay a whole new coaching staff at the rack rate
what we're doing now so everybody can scream and bitch
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and we need to fire him. And I might agree with you, but
I look logically at things. We ain't got $30 million just to
piss down and say you fired, We're going to get a new coach.
We're bringing Chucky in. That's what I've heard.
Then, then then it. Better be about 220 million
because he ain't going to go forthe $5,000,000 a year.
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Right they're. Going to be about 8 1/2 to 9.
There we go. That's my thing.
Do the math and when the math don't math y'all go.
Have to deal with Brent Frye next year.
We can be out on him at this year and we can still talk about
these guys and beating. Happy for our players but he
going to be there next. Year.
Look, if it gets bad, bad. Then again, the chips will fall,
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we'll get fired in mid-october and everything will happen.
But. But it ain't gonna get bad bad
till November. Well, now if you, if, if you, if
you are, oh, this bad, bad. If you only have two wins and
it's the middle of October, that's when it gets bad, bad.
But the whole thing is you got to get rid of wit first.
That's what I'm saying. That's when you fire wit like
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you've If you know that bad in mid-october, you're firing wit
so you can hire a new coach. Urban Meyer ain't coming here.
Android ain't even putting that up there.
What he said Urban Meyer. He said.
Urban Meyer, you going to get onhis ass?
We got a better chance of getting Michael Meyer than Urban
Meyer. That's what I say all.
Right, as usual, it's always fun.
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We also had our big screeners coming up.
If somebody rode with Tally lastweek, you ought to made yourself
some money. Alone, dog.
Brian, Brian, you damn it, we will run it up here.
Current records will be showed every week.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Because I'm. It wasn't a good week for me.
It wasn't a good week for. Me wasn't a good week.
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Me and Shelton, we're just average players here.
We're just doing things. And you know, this is a weird
slate week because there's one big, big game out there, but
there's a lot of other intriguing games, like
intriguing, some rivalry games, but just intriguing games.
I went with the Big 1, though. It will be right over there on
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Saturday night as the Hokies take the big screen behind me as
Michigan and Underwood, who did not look like a freshman on
Saturday, go in to Bootersuna Country playing Oklahoma.
Oklahoma laying 5 1/2. I'm going to go Oklahoma here.
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More for the home field advantage than anything and for
the fact that Brent Venables is on the hot seat.
We we talked about Brent Pry on the hot seat.
Oklahoma got the money to fire their coach, buy them out and go
higher than you coach. I think Oklahoma wins this one
good game. I think it's going to be a good
game, like a touchdown win for them, which covers the 5 1/2
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Shelton. Yeah, I'm going to go oh, you.
I think they're I think they're better than people think.
And I also think it's kind of similar to a similar situation
to Vt where you got a coach under a lot of pressure to win.
So I think they'll get kind of a, you know, sort of a a much
needed win relative to you to kind of kind of where they're at
as a program against, against Michigan at home.
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Tally. We going Michigan, baby.
We going Michigan because they keep coming in Virginia taking
players. And that player was.
That player was right above hereon the Friday night and the
truth is he lost to the high school local and they ain't good
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at football. So and I know Luisa is a smaller
school Brian, but still if you got the number 4 running back in
the whatever he is in the country and you can't beat
Godwin. Well, you still got to block.
It's true like. At the end of the day, like if,
if you're not blocking that, that running backs only going to
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be able to do so much. Hey, we didn't block this.
We didn't block for certain running backs in the 2000 and
they still got like 1000 yards so.
Yeah, but it's relative, man. Like the the gaps in high
school, they swing real big. It's not like a bad offensive
line in college is only marginally worse than an average
offensive line. So it can get a little crazy
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there. But yeah, I've got Michigan
here. I like what they look like so
far. I I saw the the Brent Venables
thing getting passed around. I came back through.
I was like, all right, hang on, hang on.
Oh my. God.
Those players are just lucky that they didn't catch odds with
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each other while they while thatwas said, because ain't no way
they would have made it at that press conference without Don
anyway. That's what I got.
I got Michigan here. He's got Michigan.
Let's go next. What game?
Oh UVANC, tally your game. Yeah, 2 opponents.
We got it. We got to see this year.
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Not saying I like either one, but I got UVA winning this one.
UVA takes you from that. OK, OK.
I've got State winning this one.I I think these two teams aren't
that much different on paper andI don't think that NC State's
going to run away with this one.I think it is going to be about
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A1 score game, but I think they're at least going to cover
that 2 1/2 at home. I think State covers the 2 1/2.
State unfortunately had to play ECU, who was in their Super Bowl
last weekend or last Thursday night.
We know how that goes with the with the G5 opponents.
And clearly Coastal is one of those places that it's set up to
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get rated every of the year. Like seriously, because it's
going to be kids who can't get into certain schools or lower
two stars who are athletic. They're going to go to Coastal.
They're going to do something freaky and it's going to be
like, I know he ain't playing because he hurt Braden Bennett
or that D line kid or those other kids.
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I think that's what I'm going tosay.
Coastal is next year, Coastal will be good.
Then the year after that, they'll lose everybody and suck
ass again. NC State by 10.
Yeah, I'll, I'll take, I will take NC State, I think.
I think you guys do for a stinker and I like them at home.
UVA is due for a stinker. They've done a lot of that in
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the last like, half decades. Yeah, Shelton, you are up next.
Yes, I went with the appropriately named game El
Asico between Iowa and Iowa State.
The the nickname derived it derived from the horrid lack of
offense that always happens in this game.
But we should do see some cool defensive and special teams
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plays. So in this game, Iowa State -3
1/2 I will take the Cyclones. Bam Talley.
I'm going to Iowa State. I've only watched them play.
I haven't watched Iowa play. And not saying they were great,
but I like what I seen out of them, so I'm going to take Iowa
State. Brian Siegler.
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I'm going to Iowa here. There's not really any reason
here. I'm just vibes.
I, I, I think I was going to be come to play with this one and
I'm not sure exactly what we canexpect there.
So I'll take the I'll take the Hawkeyes here.
He will take the Hawkeyes. I am going to take the Cyclones
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by 3 1/2. I think they're set up to make
another good run this year. The game overseas against Kansas
State, by the way, over under. Anybody want to guess what it is
for this one? 34 1/2 I was.
Going to say 2028. It's over 40 this year, y'all,
It's 41 1/2. So clearly Brian and Tally are
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going to call their bookie and say they ain't scoring 40
points. You seen these two teams play.
Hammer the under. Hammer the under.
So there, that is last but not least.
Brian, where are you going? We're going to Louisville, man.
We're we got the good old Jamie Dukes heading down there to
Louisville, taking on the Cardinals.
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Cardinals 13 1/2 favorite at home there at that's a little
too rich for my blood. JMU is definitely, I think going
to be the best team in the Sunbelt this year.
I think this may be one of the more talented teams they've had
in the last few years. I think they're going to make
this a close one. I think it's going to be about a
10 point loss for the Dukes, butI'll I'll take JMU here.
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I'm going to go oppo of you and not so fast.
I if anything, Jeff Braun can score points and anytime he
plays like AG5 school, it feels like he can just put up points.
I'm I'm, I think, I think it's, it's one of those where it's,
it's like it's 10 as we go into the fourth quarter and then they
hit The Jets and win by 17. OK, I was.
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Going to say if this was 14 in the hook would you have bit?
14 in the hook would have been tough.
I'll ask you to pick another game.
Game. I.
Can't do this, Sheldon. Who you got?
Yeah, I definitely think Lowell's going to win.
I'd say probably by ten. I thought it was kind of an
abnormally large spread. But again, trust Vegas.
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Vegas always knows. I just, I just think Jimmy will
do just quite enough to cover. I'm going Louisville and Brian
said they're going to win by 10.Why not win by four more 14?
That's all I. Think oh man.
So there are all of our picks for big screeners a lot of other
good games to keep an eye on on Saturday.
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I know we're not playing on thisyear.
Illinois Duke could be tricky. Illinois is like ranked in the
top ten probably for the first time in maybe 15-16 years.
When what Juice. Remember Juice Wells?
Was that his name? Juice Wells took him to the Rose
Bowl years ago. Boston College.
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Juice Williams. Juice Williams, How did I say
wells? I got it on there.
Jews. Wells was the wide receiver.
It was at South Carolina, then went to Old Hiss last year.
He is all over it, all over it, all my fruit.
So boys, y'all got anything elsey'all want to add before we wrap
this up on this wonderful Wednesday night?
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Fuck country music and beat bandy is it?
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Music.
As we get into know the enemy, it is the Vanderbilt Commodores.
They're coming in want to know after a 45 three win versus the
mighty Charleston Southern. Yes, I do say that
sarcastically. So, yeah.
But you know, we we the best thing about doing this is kind
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of reintroducing yourself to guys because a lot of the
players they had last year are still here this year.
And let's just talk about it's Tim Beck, Jerry kills offense.
Best thing is this year we got tape on we have tape of what
they're probably going to do unlike last year, although you
thought we know we're don't do. But obviously when you're
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talking about Vanderbilt, you got to talk about what is he
like 32 now? He keeps applying for years of
eligibility and they keep randomeligibility.
I'm I'm trying to be a joker here, but Diego Pavia, you know,
guy burned us last year, got us on numerous things started off
hot this year against VFCS foe throwing for 275 and three
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touchdowns. But you know, if you don't know
his game, Brian Talley, I don't know which one are y'all going
to talk about him? But y'all go ahead and kind of
get that little high level stuffon him and Sheldon kick in
anything you got. Yeah.
I mean, we know Diego Pavia, man, he's a dual threat
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quarterback. He's got that that that moxie in
the pocket, that pocket presence.
He's what you call a gamer. He's not really physically
imposing, but he makes plays, especially with his legs.
We saw him a lot last year, you know, running kind of a triple
option look out of the shotgun down in Nashville.
That really, really gave us a ton of problems and we couldn't
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get off the field consistently and it ultimately bit us in the
end there at the end of the gameas well.
Tell me what you got. He's just probably just a
nightmare because he's just a football player.
I mean, he's a good quarterback,but you know, when you watch him
play, he's not scared of anything, not not too big, but
you know, he he's going to go get it.
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You know, he's making people miss in the open field.
You know, he's very heady when he gets along that sideline.
He knows right when to take thatstep out.
So you hit him late and he makesthe he makes throws.
You know, he's got some players over there.
We'll talk about a couple of them here in just a minute, but
definitely, definitely going to be we'll have our hands full.
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But I say all that to say different type of quarterback
than Sellers, but he's not better than sellers.
Sellers is not, you know, I don't think he's as good as they
hype him up to be. I don't know if he's the number
one player that like they saying, but different type of
quarterback. But I don't think if we can keep
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sellers in the pocket a little bit, we can kind of keep Pavi in
there. So I'm hoping that we've done
some things at him that he hadn't seen.
Shove. You got anything on him?
Yeah, last year he had the 4th best PFF grade when throwing
from a clean pocket, which is considered one of the more
predictive and stable stats for for evaluating quarterback play
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is pocket, you know, pocket presence.
The other quarterbacks on that list, Cam Board, Jackson, Dart
Shooter, Sanders, all above him.And then Tyler Show, Will Howard
and Tommy Castellanos for the next 3.
So that's a list of really good quarterbacks, almost all NFL
guys or guys that will be in theFL pretty soon.
So he is a he's a very calm and imposing presence when he's
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thrown from the pocket. Yes, he is all righty.
And who does he like to throw to?
Well, the guy's 64. He's like 245.
Talk about Eli stores. He absolutely torched us last
year. This year already starting hot 4
for 86 against Charleston Southern last weekend.
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Did not have a touchdown, but averaging 21 1/2, 21 1/2 per
reception. And if you go back to the game
last year against us, he put up similar numbers.
He led them in receiving yards against Vt last year, it was
only two for 46, but everybody else was held in check pretty
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much. I think the next guy was like at
30. So he is that guy now.
Tally, You played it. You've seen him play.
Obviously you've seen him play, you know, in person.
You probably watch the Alabama in the Texas game last year.
He's a he's a match up nightmare.
He's a match up nightmare. Not because he's like he's not
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like super technical on routes. So he's not going to, you know,
Juke you to get open like you see a good wide receiver do.
But he just has he's like an NFLtight end, you know what I'm
saying? One of those hybrid tight ends
that's too fast for certain people to guard him and too big
for other people to guard him. So he uses his body to get where
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he wants to go and he can high point the ball with that big
frame. So he's a, he's a nightmare to
deal with. We have some people that can
deal with him. That's why we play the game.
But he's a he, he's going, he's going to be fun to watch.
Man, I, I pay attention to tightends all the time and he's one
of those. He's one of those, but like
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Notre Dame, Penn State type tight ends, you know what I'm
saying? Just kind of they should be a
wide receiver, but they're so big because I don't see him
doing a whole bunch like in the running game where he's just
mauling people. You can block a little bit, but
he's out there to catch the ballso.
Yeah, I mean, he's the guy that went to New Mexico State as a
quarterback, so very much a Logan Thomas transition type
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guy. Yeah, just did it, you know, in
college before he got to the NFL, You know, he's got that
similar type skill set. Just a a a body can make a play,
like I said, like Tally you said, but not very technical,
isn't a great blocker. He does.
He's not going to do a ton from a blocking standpoint, but he's
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he's just a playmaker. Yeah, 100% and it showed in last
year. You know, I mean, the the really
big game last year is he, I mean, he didn't torch us, but he
made a couple big plays for us on us last year.
His big game last year. Go look at the Alabama tape.
He crushed them. He crushed them last year.
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And I know hopefully everything's going on with
Alabama stays because I'm sure Tally's having a nice laugh this
week down in his home state withsome of those fans.
But yeah, we lost Shelton. I don't know what Shelton had.
Shelton, did you get? Did you have anything on Stowers
before we move on? Nope.
Nothing. Nothing on Stowers.
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OK, let's talk Cedric Alexander,another one of the guys we saw
last year. It looks like he is their lead
back again for the second straight year.
Just 83 yards on on 12 carries on Saturday against Charleston
Southern. But you know, last year right at
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800 yards total from scrimmage. So we definitely have some pass
catching ability. Anything else, Brian, just kind
of reviewing your notes on it from last year and maybe looking
a little bit this year? Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that
last year, you know, he he was healthy start of the year, kind
of faded as the year went on with some injuries and had some
problems with that was a little less effective, a little less
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explosive. But sounds like he's healthy,
rounded into form. You know, when he's in form, he
does a good job of making the first person miss and he does
have some explosiveness where you can hit the long one on you.
So that's that's one thing We'regoing to have to make sure that
we're we're keeping him in checkthere.
And you know, when we look at a team that was struggling with
some missed tackles, we want to make sure that we're tackling
sure on him in the backfield. He's a good athlete, man.
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He made a catch in that, in thatwhatever whoever they just
played Charleston Southern, Yeah.
Pretty much. Yeah, he made a a hell of a
catch for a touchdown. I believe he's just he's a great
athlete. You know, it's it's fun to watch
him play, You know, not a fan ofVanderbilt, but I'm a fan of
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good football. And to watch him, watch him do
some of the things he's done andthen seeing him live last year,
you got to go hit him, you got to go hit him.
You can't you can't come up and and play around if you want to
get him to the ground. So again, I think that we have
the defense to do it. It just comes down to what the
game plan looks like and do we want it.
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I think Virginia Tech is one of those one of those teams schools
that should always have an underdog mindset no matter what
It feels like. You know all we're we're seven
point favorite. They should.
The coaches should just instill it in their in their team that
you're on the everybody should. Always feel disrespected.
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Always should feel disrespected.Man.
This team embarrassed you last year, you know, you went down
that of their house and people was falling out and fainting and
all type of junk and they had half the stadium closed down
because it was raggedy. Whatever.
Had it still closed down they they still have an open up the
end zone. And listen to freaking country
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music walking in there and walking out.
Hey, ain't done wrong with country music.
I hate country music. I don't want to.
I don't want to hear Luke Bryan,Brian Luke, Dennis the Menace,
whatever their names is. I want to.
I want, I want to hear Inner Sandman.
How about that coming to Blacksburg, you hear Inner
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Sandman and I want the team to go out and feel disrespected and
go win. And I ain't talking about a
three hour stomach ache. I just want you to go.
I want to be able to get up going.
To get a cigar and a whiskey. And and just be rambling in the
pantry for chips and not worriedabout that play because we
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already up, you know, 21 points and I ain't worried about them,
man, go make a statement. That's what I want.
You to do if. Somebody let Luke Bryan know
it's on site when Tally sees him.
And. Then you know when you go to,
you know when you go to Nashville, all of their bars are
named after somebody country. They like, oh, this is this is
Blake Shelton's place. I'll be like, what kind of food
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they got in there. I don't care about Blake
Shelton's pretty cool. Now.
I ain't talking to talk about itabout that, but I don't care
about all that stuff. I'm trying to get up here to see
this game. So we want to hear in a Sandman.
That's what we want to hear. Get that?
Country music. There you go all right, one last
piece wanted to talk about theiroffensive line.
You know looks like they had a set 5 going out there again,
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they were playing like tally youjoking?
Literally, I think Charleston Southern was the worst FCS team
last year, So it literally was they were playing school for the
blind. But something I was listening to
and it caught my eye. Excuse me, it caught my ear was
they feel some of their fans, some of their podcasters feel
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that they really do not have a true tackle on the team.
It's just a bunch of guards. But with what they do, it makes
sense, right? They're running a lot of option.
They need to get guys up field. But the one thing that caught my
eye stat wise against CharlestonSouthern, not a good FCS vote.
They have three offensive holding penalties.
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That says something because, Brian, when there's an offensive
holding penalty, what does that usually mean to happen to the
offensive lineman? You're either getting beat or
the refs on some bullshit. And I think at a 28 nothing
game, I don't think the ref was on bullshit.
So Brian, anything with any of these guys?
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Shelton, anything, 'cause I I'llbe honest, I watched a couple
highlights, but it's like, can Ireally watch this?
Can I get anything out of it? No.
Yeah, I mean, there there's someton that jumps out.
You know, you kind of highlighted it, right, with, you
know, this is going to be a an option focus offense.
You don't need a true tackle outthere.
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I mean, there this is still a team that's going to be dropping
back. But because of the way they run
the football and the way they use that, that rushing attack,
you're going to have some built in buffer for a pass rush
because of that, except in obvious situations, right.
So, you know, you don't need a true like blind side NFL caliber
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tackle out there. But I, I, they, they do a pretty
good job of, of what they do well in that option game.
I'm, I'm interested to see if wecan do well on those first and
second downs and we get them into those more obvious passing
situations, how we're able to exploit them.
But with with not having, you know, really traditional tackles
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on that, on that off the line. Shown anything on the old line
from your statistical point of view.
No, I think anything I'll you can give me back in a SEC.
I'm looking up some stuff. All righty.
Well, that's the offense, I mean, and we and we know what
they are. We all saw it on tape last year.
We just got to be better this year because last year The thing
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is, and we'll all sit here and say it, defense didn't play
great last year, but we still should have won the fucking
game. That's that's it.
Like the defense didn't play great.
The offense didn't play great for 1/2 I'd.
Say 3/4. I ain't, I'm, I'm not going to
give you a half because they were parts of the second-half
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where they just disappeared at times, you know, like at the
end. All right, let's go over to
defense. Big story on defense.
Can I can I say something about offense while we go?
Absolutely, Sir. That's what we're here for.
If if Chance Fitzgerald comes toBlacksburg and has a legacy
game, I'm going to lose my mind.OK.
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I'm going to lose my He'd betternot even have a catch.
He didn't have a catch against Charleston Southern, right?
He comes back to black if he comes to Blacksburg and I hear
his name called. No disrespect to the kid, but
I'm just saying one planet Tech,he ain't playing that game if he
comes back. Because see, that's what we
normally do. We usually give people who ain't
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the caliber to have a legacy game.
We let him have a legacy game todo from Syracuse last year.
I don't even know his name. Fucking catching balls all on
us. A kid from Duke probably never
caught a football a day in his life.
Had a 93 yard bomb the first play.
You know different. Nick Harbour doing it.
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Nick, you know he's a good player.
NFLNFL guy, right? If y'all let Chance Fitzgerald
come to Blacksburg and head top you, I'm on nut top you.
There you go everybody. If I get that, if I get that,
no, he did not have the catch against Charleston Southern.
He did not have a catch against Charleston Southern.
So there is that. Sean, if you got anything on
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offense, we'll let you kick backin here.
I want to click over the defenseand talk about kind of a kind of
a big story. Last year.
Big story was Parkley was tryingto save his job.
Parkley took over the defense and they played pretty well last
year, pretty solid all the way Vanderbilt standards.
But he has decided to turn that over and he is turning it over
to a guy by the name of Steve Gregory.
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Well, Steve Gregory is a former Patriot and he was on staff last
year, He was a consultant last year at Vanderbilt.
He had been in the NFL since 2018, various various positions
with the Lions, the Dolphins forabout 6 years there.
But he's turned the keys over tohim.
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And the one thing if you if y'all noticed and it kind of was
pointed out, he likes to be a little bit more aggressive.
Where if you've known Clark Lee like a Notre Dame and where he's
coached, Clark Lee is a more buttoned up approach.
Very, do what you do, stay in your zones and we're going to
win the game. This guy's a little bit
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different. So saying all that, Brian, let's
take a look at a few of these players here and I know you and
Tally got a couple guys highlighted who you want to
start with. Let's start with CJ Hurd, man, I
feel like he is the the biggest playmaker on their defense.
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He's a very sure tackler, big high motor guy and when you look
at the back end of that defense,he's really the quarterback of
that defense. He's their leader.
He's the undisputed leader on the defense.
So he's really the biggest difference maker that they have
on that side of the ball. Yeah, and he came in as a
transfer from FAU and 80 plus tackles last year there.
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Didn't play much, but found the ball in the air against
Charleston's southern 4th pick. So he's already making his voice
heard there. And again, it's it's it's why
you why you, you love the Portaland why you hate the portal.
Because in the old days he was just played at FAU.
He would have never made his wayup.
So yeah, tally who you got you want to talk about here?
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Mulan's brother? Was it Elan?
I don't even know where you're from.
I ain't going to try to pronounce that last name, But D
Taco. D Taco didn't play in the first
game, right? We didn't.
Get it in the. First grain, but they they talk
a lot about him. Supposed to be a monster in the
middle. Hopefully we don't see him.
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I don't care if we don't see him, but bro is.
Big Man 667-3312, something likethat.
It's a big dude, man. He's a big son of a bitch.
Yeah. So we going to have to get him
off the line. You know, we're going to have to
do some stuff to create some space so we can move.
But again, I don't think that he's going to be more talented
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than what we've seen this past week.
And this is what I'll say just about the team in general.
No disrespect to Vanderbilt. A lot of talk about Vanderbilt
last year, right? I know they're trying to build a
program. How many games did they win?
Did they win six games? They did.
They won six games. They're Virginia Tech, you know
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what I'm saying? They a lot of people was, but
I'm saying a lot of times peoplelast year were talking about
them like because they beat Alabama.
This ain't the same Alabama as when Nick was there.
So no disrespect to Randy. They beat us, they beat Alabama,
but they still only won six games.
It's true. We've got to go in and punish
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teams like this. Just go in and play.
Go in and do what you do. Don't go in with this
conservative shit. If you can get these receivers
one-on-one like South Carolina was playing us, they can beat
their they can beat their corners.
Let them go beat them. Karen.
I'm going to say this about Karen too.
Before we get to the end of this, I was going to talk a
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little bit about it on keys to win.
If I'm a coach, I'm not a coach,but if I'm a coach in that
locker room or somebody recruiting or, you know, one of
them young ladies who help with whatever they do.
I will pull Karen to the side and say, listen, man, this is
what you need to do. You ain't going to the NFL.
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This is just what I would say. I don't know if he's going to
the NFL or not. You ain't going to the NFL.
Just get that through your head and think about this.
You just need to focus on being the best Virginia Tech
quarterback that ever there everwas, right?
You may not be, but that's what you need to focus on.
You need to be the guy probably like, what's the Texas
quarterback that just left Quinn?
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Yours, right, Yours. Be the guy that gives Virginia
Tech back. You go out and you win eight
games this year. You can come to Blacksburg and
do whatever you want to do. You're always going to have a
great name in Blacksburg just because of what you did this
year. You ain't got no more years.
If you got to run, go run. If you got to throw, go throw.
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Go back to the bowl game when itwas raining.
I don't know how many rushing yards Kyron had.
And I'm not saying we need to run him like that, but I got so
fucking tired of him. And the commentators say, oh,
they don't want him to take hitslike that.
He ain't no he know what he doing it like.
He's been playing football a long time.
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He's about the size of sellers. They weren't saying sellers
taking hits. Sellers was getting crushed too.
With a he's a strong guy. He's able to get up.
Kyron can do that too. And he got.
It he's not some injury prone kid.
That's, I get it. Y'all are frustrated.
Everybody's frustrated because not y'all, but I'm saying the
chat, the fans, because I've heard people say, you know,
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Kyron is this and that Kyron gives us the best chance to win.
Kyron just has to go out and beat Kyron.
If you got to go and get 10 yards and get out of bounds, go
do that. If you got to go get 5 yards and
get down, stop going head first,slide and make them hit you and
get 15 more yards. Play this game smart.
Go out and be the best Virginia Tech quarterback that you can be
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and let the chips fall where they may because there may be
some more inspirations. That may be some NFL in there.
But we got to for Kyrie to get to the next level, he's got to
win eight games. He's got to turn some heads with
the fan base, with the people who are watching him because
right now he's an afterthought, you know what I'm saying?
When he's playing other, they'regoing to talk about Diego Pavia
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more than they talk about Kyrie $10,000 more and he's at your
house. When we played at Miami last
year, he was pissed off and he went into that game and you
could tell that he wanted to show that he was the same
caliber as as, as, as Cam Ward. Not saying that he is he's his
own quarterback, but I'm saying he should go into every game
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pissed off and say I'm going to get disrespected.
I got to go out and earn every bit of respect I got to get.
So if I got to run this motherfucker 50 times a day for
us to win, that's what I'm goingto do.
Because if you go back and look at MM was probably the best to
do it at Virginia Tech, he wouldhave 100 yards passing and 100
yards rushing. If that's what he had to do to
win. Just saying I'm off my soapbox.
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I'm a let it go he. Won't let it go, Shelton I'm I'm
going to wrap this up a little early.
I'm going to hit one more playerand then we're going to get into
keys because tally Cali, I'm assuming you read some stuff and
it just set y'all anything offensively, defensively,
statistically that is or data wise jumping out to say if we're
going to beat them or if they'regoing to, if they're going to do
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the unthinkable, it's this. Yeah, not really because you
know, they they had some high PFF graders like mouse capers,
one of their they're edge guys, third highest graded SEC player
right now. But again, only one opponent.
It was really bad. So I don't know how much to make
of that. But I would say look at some of
the analytics. They're they're pretty balanced
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overall offensively and defensively, you know, top 45 in
both, you know, both metrics. So I don't know, I mean, they're
they're kind of a little, a little bit maybe what Vt was
last year, just kind of good, good on both sides of the ball,
but not like a lead. So yeah, I just, I, I don't know
what to make of them yet, just based on the small sample size
and the fact that they, they haven't really played anyone,
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anyone of notes. Got it.
All right, one last thing to know, Brian, I'm going to just
jump through this. Langston Patterson, he's their
leading tackler. He got 10 tackles on us last
year. Basically, motor guy, all that
fun stuff. Langston Patterson, let's get to
the keys here. Brian, I'm going to let you
lead. I'm going to let Tally get his
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breath here. But Brian, what's your key to
this game? You need to score points on
offense. And I mean literally we didn't
score any points on offense of the the special team scored.
You know, they kick, they kick some field goals.
We got a safety, but we didn't score offensive points.
So you got to do that first. That's the first thing you got
to do if you want to beat Vanderbilt is actually score
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offensive points. So go out there and do that.
Let the let's, as Tally said, let the chips fall where they
may. Shelton, what about you?
What's the key for the Hokies this week?
Yeah, I would say contain Pavia,keep him in the pocket I
mentioned you know his his pocket numbers.
First of all, you want to you want to pressure him obviously,
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but he had 276 scramble yards last year for Vanderbilt, 8
rushing touchdowns, of course, one that came against Virginia
Tech. So you got to limit him there
and just try to get as much pressure on him as you can
because if you let him sit in the pocket all day, he is going
to make you. Pay for it.
All right? I'm going to go to me next
because Tally lets you close it out for me.
I'm going to pull up the wife's little comment here.
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Make him pay, make Pavia pay. Be a goon.
Be the assholes. You know what hit him?
Swimming, if you get a 15, make him pay.
He's got moxie, he's got will. But it's like anybody that's
ever been punched, you get keep getting punched and keep getting
hurt. A lot of times you lose that
energy to keep going forward. You see it in boxing matches,
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fights, UFC fights all the time.Somebody keeps sticking you and
keep hurting you. It's like I I got to do
something different here. Make him pay.
Whether it's in the pocket or when he scrambles, make him pay.
Good things will happen. Tally.
I'm going to keep saying it, offense has to take the layups,
man, and you got to make them. You know, if it's a 5 yard play
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there, I'm not putting it all onthe quarterback, all on the
receivers, all in the line. It's as a whole.
If it's a 5 yard pass, let's, let's, let's get the five yard
pass. You know, if there's a 10 yard
scramble, take the 10 yard scramble.
Kind of like what you said, Curtis, and what Dwight's saying
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in the in the chat. I mean, you got to go out and
have a little bit of asshole to you, man.
You got to go out and you got tofeel again.
I hate that. I don't want nobody to think
that I'm putting this all on ourquarterback, but I got a lot of
faith in Karen drones, right? And just for him, you know, he's
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AI. Don't think that we are.
I don't think that we have anything else in the well that
is as good as him right now. Maybe coming up, maybe some of
the youngsters, I don't know. But if they were, if they were,
if they could be on the field for us to win, they'd be on
that. So I need him to I need him to
go out and feel disrespected. Like I said, they're coming to
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your house that that you're going to hear a lot about Diego
Pavia, another six and six quarterback.
You know what I'm saying, that that ain't one shit that
everybody's going to talk about how great he is.
All Karen got to go out and do is take the layups and put some
down points on the board. Go some points.
Score some points. All right, let's get our
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predictions in here. Shelton, I'm going to start
with. You yes.
So my prediction I, I, I, my brain says that pive is going to
light Vt up, which I think is probably true.
However, I do think Vt is going to find a way to get a win.
I think it will be the first onescore victory for the Hokies in
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three years. I'll say I'll say 27 to 21 US
high score, but I do think the Hokies will will find a way to
get a win and get that power fornon conference losing streak off
their backs for the first time in eight years.
Please please. It was in the chat somebody had
It's eight years to the day, West Virginia at FedEx Field
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back in 2017, Brian. Brian's got a y'all if y'all
didn't pay attention last week, Brian's got.
Brian's got a vendetta right now.
Yeah man, I I'm going to commit to the bit at this point.
I got to see us take care of AP4opponent before I'm going to
move off of this. I've got us losing A1 score game
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to Vandy 3027. Jesus Christ.
Well, he said he's going to do it, he said.
Until they proved him wrong. He's got to.
I don't blame him. You.
Got to show me you can take careof business against a Power 4
out of conference at home, man. And I haven't seen it.
So I need to see it. And until I do, that's what I'm
going to have there. You go tally.
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What about you? I want to go with Brian, but I
can't do it, man. I just can't.
I can't say it. You know what I'm saying?
Even if I thank it and believe it, I can't say that.
So I got to say I'm leaning moretowards the shelf, but I think
it's going to be more like a 10 point win.
I'd be too nervous to say we winin A1 score game.
So I'm going to say I'm going tosay a 10.10 point victory.
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I don't know how how deep we go into that, that scoring scoring
thing. And I just want to hit on what
Andre Andre says here. Just curious, is Drones really
better or does NIL have something to do with him
starting? Sometimes the NIL does have to
do what people starting. Our coach is on the hot seat.
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That seat is hot. It fucking feeling like his ass
is feeling like pins and needlesare sticking it right now.
If somebody else is better, they're going in the game.
If he goes out and he ain't goodenough, somebody else is going
in that game. That's just my feeling.
If he doesn't have a good practice, like if you don't,
somebody else would already be in.
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So I think drones is the best. That's just my of of what we
have. So that's just my assessment.
I could be wrong. But back to what you asked
Curtis. We going to win by 10 points.
Win by 10 points. I I am going to go 3123.
Technically that is A1 score game, one score game, but I
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think it's one of those things where like the the faith I have
in the defense right now is I I put up 23 and the way I'm seeing
this in my head, they're gettingto 23 would like a score with
one minute left to go. Like like they had to drive the
whole field in the fourth quarter and they finally punched
it in and you know, they have todo it on side.
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We recover game over, we kneel on it.
So by 8, I think we all hope it's this score though, so we
can all be. I know Brian's going to come
over to the house Saturday night.
We're going to have some drinks,eat some food, watch a game.
So, yeah, but throw your predictions because again, I'm
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going to say this and I and I and I said I was going to say at
the beginning of the program, but I decided, hold on.
I think this is the biggest gamefor Brent Pryor because if you
lose this one, there's going to be a lot of people.
I'm not saying they're not goingto tune in, but like you, you
can't be the guy you started O 1-2.
You lost a home game. Like you've got to win this game
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because as you look at the schedule, you win this game and
you start touting out everything, right?
You could win quite a few in a row going into October, but if
you don't win this one, there wego.
It's going it's going to get ugly.
They're. Going to get ahead potentially,
I don't know, fast, maybe like come November fast.
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But was you? On was you on X after this last
game? You get, you know it's going to.
Get ugly off, Yeah, Whether the whether the the win loss record
gets ugly or not, it's going to get ugly behind the scenes.
That's what I'm saying. Well, the whole thing is and,
and, and I made this point to a guy at work today.
Y'all ready for it? Brent Pride has two years left
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on his contract. Two years because he had a six
year contract. First of all, this guy get fired
because we ain't going to be allowed.
Brian, you said at the beginningback a couple weeks ago if we
ain't fired by mid-october, you are not getting a new football
coach next year. The second thing is going to be
the buy. If you fire him this year, this
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year and you got to pay 26 and 27 and then you got to pay, you
better have $30 million. Whit's already screaming to the
board, I need more money. If you fire Pry after this year,
better come up with $30 million because that's going to be his
buyout, plus to pay a whole new coaching staff at the rack rate
what we're doing now so everybody can scream and bitch
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and we need to fire him. And I might agree with you, but
I look logically at things. We ain't got $30 million just to
piss down and say you fired, We're going to get a new coach.
We're bringing Chucky in. That's what I've heard.
Then, then then it. Better be about 220 million
because he ain't going to go forthe $5,000,000 a year.
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Right they're. Going to be about 8 1/2 to 9.
There we go. That's my thing.
Do the math and when the math don't math y'all go.
Have to deal with Brent Frye next year.
We can be out on him at this year and we can still talk about
these guys and beating. Happy for our players but he
going to be there next. Year.
Look, if it gets bad, bad. Then again, the chips will fall,
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we'll get fired in mid-october and everything will happen.
But. But it ain't gonna get bad bad
till November. Well, now if you, if, if you, if
you are, oh, this bad, bad. If you only have two wins and
it's the middle of October, that's when it gets bad, bad.
But the whole thing is you got to get rid of wit first.
That's what I'm saying. That's when you fire wit like
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you've If you know that bad in mid-october, you're firing wit
so you can hire a new coach. Urban Meyer ain't coming here.
Android ain't even putting that up there.
What he said Urban Meyer. He said.
Urban Meyer, you going to get onhis ass?
We got a better chance of getting Michael Meyer than Urban
Meyer. That's what I say all.
Right, as usual, it's always fun.
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We also had our big screeners coming up.
If somebody rode with Tally lastweek, you ought to made yourself
some money. Alone, dog.
Brian, Brian, you damn it, we will run it up here.
Current records will be showed every week.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Because I'm. It wasn't a good week for me.
It wasn't a good week for. Me wasn't a good week.
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Me and Shelton, we're just average players here.
We're just doing things. And you know, this is a weird
slate week because there's one big, big game out there, but
there's a lot of other intriguing games, like
intriguing, some rivalry games, but just intriguing games.
I went with the Big 1, though. It will be right over there on
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Saturday night as the Hokies take the big screen behind me as
Michigan and Underwood, who did not look like a freshman on
Saturday, go in to Bootersuna Country playing Oklahoma.
Oklahoma laying 5 1/2. I'm going to go Oklahoma here.
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More for the home field advantage than anything and for
the fact that Brent Venables is on the hot seat.
We we talked about Brent Pry on the hot seat.
Oklahoma got the money to fire their coach, buy them out and go
higher than you coach. I think Oklahoma wins this one
good game. I think it's going to be a good
game, like a touchdown win for them, which covers the 5 1/2
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Shelton. Yeah, I'm going to go oh, you.
I think they're I think they're better than people think.
And I also think it's kind of similar to a similar situation
to Vt where you got a coach under a lot of pressure to win.
So I think they'll get kind of a, you know, sort of a a much
needed win relative to you to kind of kind of where they're at
as a program against, against Michigan at home.
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Tally. We going Michigan, baby.
We going Michigan because they keep coming in Virginia taking
players. And that player was.
That player was right above hereon the Friday night and the
truth is he lost to the high school local and they ain't good
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at football. So and I know Luisa is a smaller
school Brian, but still if you got the number 4 running back in
the whatever he is in the country and you can't beat
Godwin. Well, you still got to block.
It's true like. At the end of the day, like if,
if you're not blocking that, that running backs only going to
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be able to do so much. Hey, we didn't block this.
We didn't block for certain running backs in the 2000 and
they still got like 1000 yards so.
Yeah, but it's relative, man. Like the the gaps in high
school, they swing real big. It's not like a bad offensive
line in college is only marginally worse than an average
offensive line. So it can get a little crazy
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there. But yeah, I've got Michigan
here. I like what they look like so
far. I I saw the the Brent Venables
thing getting passed around. I came back through.
I was like, all right, hang on, hang on.
Oh my. God.
Those players are just lucky that they didn't catch odds with
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each other while they while thatwas said, because ain't no way
they would have made it at that press conference without Don
anyway. That's what I got.
I got Michigan here. He's got Michigan.
Let's go next. What game?
Oh UVANC, tally your game. Yeah, 2 opponents.
We got it. We got to see this year.
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Not saying I like either one, but I got UVA winning this one.
UVA takes you from that. OK, OK.
I've got State winning this one.I I think these two teams aren't
that much different on paper andI don't think that NC State's
going to run away with this one.I think it is going to be about
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A1 score game, but I think they're at least going to cover
that 2 1/2 at home. I think State covers the 2 1/2.
State unfortunately had to play ECU, who was in their Super Bowl
last weekend or last Thursday night.
We know how that goes with the with the G5 opponents.
And clearly Coastal is one of those places that it's set up to
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get rated every of the year. Like seriously, because it's
going to be kids who can't get into certain schools or lower
two stars who are athletic. They're going to go to Coastal.
They're going to do something freaky and it's going to be
like, I know he ain't playing because he hurt Braden Bennett
or that D line kid or those other kids.
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I think that's what I'm going tosay.
Coastal is next year, Coastal will be good.
Then the year after that, they'll lose everybody and suck
ass again. NC State by 10.
Yeah, I'll, I'll take, I will take NC State, I think.
I think you guys do for a stinker and I like them at home.
UVA is due for a stinker. They've done a lot of that in
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the last like, half decades. Yeah, Shelton, you are up next.
Yes, I went with the appropriately named game El
Asico between Iowa and Iowa State.
The the nickname derived it derived from the horrid lack of
offense that always happens in this game.
But we should do see some cool defensive and special teams
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plays. So in this game, Iowa State -3
1/2 I will take the Cyclones. Bam Talley.
I'm going to Iowa State. I've only watched them play.
I haven't watched Iowa play. And not saying they were great,
but I like what I seen out of them, so I'm going to take Iowa
State. Brian Siegler.
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I'm going to Iowa here. There's not really any reason
here. I'm just vibes.
I, I, I think I was going to be come to play with this one and
I'm not sure exactly what we canexpect there.
So I'll take the I'll take the Hawkeyes here.
He will take the Hawkeyes. I am going to take the Cyclones
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by 3 1/2. I think they're set up to make
another good run this year. The game overseas against Kansas
State, by the way, over under. Anybody want to guess what it is
for this one? 34 1/2 I was.
Going to say 2028. It's over 40 this year, y'all,
It's 41 1/2. So clearly Brian and Tally are
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going to call their bookie and say they ain't scoring 40
points. You seen these two teams play.
Hammer the under. Hammer the under.
So there, that is last but not least.
Brian, where are you going? We're going to Louisville, man.
We're we got the good old Jamie Dukes heading down there to
Louisville, taking on the Cardinals.
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Cardinals 13 1/2 favorite at home there at that's a little
too rich for my blood. JMU is definitely, I think going
to be the best team in the Sunbelt this year.
I think this may be one of the more talented teams they've had
in the last few years. I think they're going to make
this a close one. I think it's going to be about a
10 point loss for the Dukes, butI'll I'll take JMU here.
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I'm going to go oppo of you and not so fast.
I if anything, Jeff Braun can score points and anytime he
plays like AG5 school, it feels like he can just put up points.
I'm I'm, I think, I think it's, it's one of those where it's,
it's like it's 10 as we go into the fourth quarter and then they
hit The Jets and win by 17. OK, I was.
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Going to say if this was 14 in the hook would you have bit?
14 in the hook would have been tough.
I'll ask you to pick another game.
Game. I.
Can't do this, Sheldon. Who you got?
Yeah, I definitely think Lowell's going to win.
I'd say probably by ten. I thought it was kind of an
abnormally large spread. But again, trust Vegas.
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Vegas always knows. I just, I just think Jimmy will
do just quite enough to cover. I'm going Louisville and Brian
said they're going to win by 10.Why not win by four more 14?
That's all I. Think oh man.
So there are all of our picks for big screeners a lot of other
good games to keep an eye on on Saturday.
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I know we're not playing on thisyear.
Illinois Duke could be tricky. Illinois is like ranked in the
top ten probably for the first time in maybe 15-16 years.
When what Juice. Remember Juice Wells?
Was that his name? Juice Wells took him to the Rose
Bowl years ago. Boston College.
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Juice Williams. Juice Williams, How did I say
wells? I got it on there.
Jews. Wells was the wide receiver.
It was at South Carolina, then went to Old Hiss last year.
He is all over it, all over it, all my fruit.
So boys, y'all got anything elsey'all want to add before we wrap
this up on this wonderful Wednesday night?
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Fuck country music and beat bandy is it?
All right, with that, that wrapsup this episode of the Boundary
Corner Podcast, brought to you by Counts Family Pharmacy in
Blacksburg and Moments on the More in Lexington.
I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Seclan.
Jonathan Talley. And I'm Shelton Moss.
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