Quiet Storm

The Hokies Spring Game was a cold and poorly attended exhibition. Now that we've had some time to digest what we saw live and in a tape delayed fashion let's talk about it. We break down what we learned on the scheme and position battle front and what sort of help this roster still needs before fall camp. We also touch on the Nico Iamaleava situation and talk about a plethora of Hokies that are looking to hear their name called at the NFL Draft.

Episode Transcript

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Now Miami wants to talk about it.
Several of these past plays in this last possession, the first
one took 11 seconds off the clock, 11 seconds.
It resulted in incompletion. They have not managed the clock
very well. But you you can say that to

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Jacory Harris, but if he can't find anybody open, he can't.
Find anybody open. Let me tell you what has become
open this crowd that makes the task of Al Golden and Jacory
Harris that much more difficult.You lose a little bit of your
composure and your focus and understanding of the down in the
distance in the game at this point.
Now they've got they cannot let the ball die inbound.

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Look at this. This is just spectacular.
These people are losing their mind.
This is beautiful. Virginia Tech has one defender

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waiting back at the 15 yard line.
Harris frozen underneath, caughtby Miller trying to stay alive.

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The clock is in zero and Miller is down.
It's over. Alonso.
Tweety made the tackle in Virginia Tech wins.

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I'll tell you what, if you like college football and you got to
watch this whole game, what elsecould you conceivably ask for?
It's one of the greatest games Iever saw.
Frank Beamer has joined us. Frank, just your typical
Saturday afternoon at Lane State.

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And welcome back to the BoundaryCorner podcast, a part of the
College Couple network along with my partners, Brian Siegler,
Jonathan Talley and Shelton Moss.
I am Curtis Wilson and we are brought to you by Doctor Jeremy
Counts down at the Counts FamilyPharmacy, your friendly
neighborhood pharmacy, three O 1S Main St. in Blacksburg.

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And y'all, we kicked it off right there with one of the most
unbelievable calls in college football, in my opinion, in the
last 20 years in honor of Mike Patrick, who passed away
yesterday because hey, Mike Patrick called so many Tech
games throughout the years, first of all.
But when that game happened and literally for some reason Al

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Golden decided to call a timeout, Mike delivered maybe
one of the best lines ever. And I don't know what to say.
I'll definitely miss him becauseto me, he was a voice of college
football, voice of the Hokies, voice of the College World
Series for years. And you know, take takes me back

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to a happier time as far as being a Hokie fan was.
Let's let's, let's run it back even further for some of our old
heads. Him and Joe Thais are back on
Sunday Night Football. Yeah, I mean that that was my
introduction to Mike Patrick. And then obviously you're
calling all those games for the Hokies, especially when we were

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winning some football games that'll have had a much better
clip than we are now. So rest in peace of that man.
Definitely a legend in the booth.
Definitely a legend man. Like I say, RRP definitely don't
want to over shadow what we're talking about because that's

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very serious. But when I watch that clip, you
know what I'm saying? And I see him like that's that's
college football, that's Virginia Tech football, you
know, like that's just electric.That's what you see.
That's not what our dumb ass fans talk about when we talk
about that fucking song. It's not the song, man.

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It's the the noise, it's the people, it's the atmosphere,
it's everything that Hokey Nation makes it.
Nothing wrong with the song. The song's good.
I don't hate the song, but that electric atmosphere is what
Hokey Nation is. And that's what people like
myself have grown to love, man. And then like I said, even with

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him, you know, commentating thatgame, just I, I remember
watching it, I wasn't there. I remember watching it on TV.
Like it's just, that's what college football is, man.
That's what gets you. That's what gets you going.
You know, I and I feel like sometimes put a, a tweet out.
I guess they're talking about college football, the video
game. I was going to have MSN man in

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it or they're talking about it being in there for the 26th
game. And I'm like, I don't care who's
blocking on our team this year. That's what I want to know.
Shelton, can I ask real quick, were you at that game back in 11
Miami? No, I was not the game.
So that was before I was really like a AVT fanatic.

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Were you? Grown back into.
Yeah, I was. I was.
I was. I was 13.
I think so, but I do remember watching that game and that was
one of those core even like as anon fan actor, that was one of
those core Vt memories. You're kind of just like
watching the screen and awe and like, man, this is awesome.
Like that's, you know, it's unfortunate we haven't had, you
know, memories like that. We're still kind of, you know,

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reminiscing on stuff that's so far back, but it's kind of it's
kind of become more part of likethe the lore as time has gone
on. Yeah, definitely any any Miami
game, man. Like I told people whenever we
started talking about who we would play in the future and
they was talking about teams that we took away and things
like that. Like I said, my first game in

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Lane Stadium was Virginia Tech versus Miami on a Thursday
night. So like Miami's probably that's
like that's one of my teams. If we play in Miami, I want to
be tuned in to that game. So goes back to this game blue
to the TV watching it, you know what I'm saying?
They come in weird high ranked team and.

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I think they were. Were they favored in that game
or something? It was, it was weird, like we
were getting. Disrespected.
Yeah. Yeah, there was definitely
something there. Yeah.
I think it was like, I know we were like kind of close together
in, in record and rank and it was like, all right, well.
I know Harris was getting a lot of hype and stuff, right?
Yeah, around that time. He always got hyped.

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We always shut his ass up too. Yeah.
So yeah, man, I just, I love theVirginia Tech Miami rivalry.
I'm calling it a rivalry. If y'all don't like it, it is
Kick rocks. It's a rock.
I love that rivalry, man. So listening to that starting to
show with that takes me back to happier times.
I'm still mad, but that takes meto happier times.

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There we go. All righty so.
Everybody the The theme for thisepisode is Tally is the old man
yelling at the cloud so. Get all the lawn get off of.
It get off get off but along with tally yelling at the lawn
Shelton who I'm not Sheldon you had been in my Sheldon's been
working his ass off for pretty much the last three months.

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He's back tonight. I like what Robbie said The
gang's back together tonight. We are going to go over spring
ball real quick. The spring game, our
observations from it with Brian being there and a couple other
folks and trying to watch a little pieces of the spring game
and read on things. And obviously we thought about
doing one last week, but last week was hell for all of us.

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Tally was finishing up baseball.I had multiple games in the
middle of the week. Brian had multiple things.
Shelton's always working in the middle of the week.
So the other thing we mentioned was wait a second y'all, the
transfer portal opens up so we can come up here and talk about
6 players like so and so looked really good in the portal the
next day. So that's another reason we got

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off. But we are going to hit it up
tonight. Talk a little bit about the
spring game this year. Finally, finally, finally we got
the version I wanted, Brian. We got offense versus defense,
which I have been screaming about for years and we got it
and it was a better game becauseyou saw ones versus ones even
though they weren't a lot of ones on the offensive side of

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the ball. We'll talk about that in a
little while. But Brian, just from being that
in person because it wasn't a game, but did you like that or
was it a little not enough people there to do it this year?
Do you remember it, Brad? I do remember it.
It's it's a cloudy memory, but I, I do remember it.

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It, you know what, I like the format better, but without your
two best quarterbacks, it kind of dulled what the high end of
that would look like. Because I don't think we saw,
even with a limited and a vanilla playbook, as many passes
or as a consistent passing game as we would have gotten if you

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would have had drones and pop Watson out there.
So I feel like we were kind of that kind of took away from the
full impact of that. And and, you know, just as far
as the atmosphere in general, I mean, I, I think, you know, a
lot of the fan base is feeling alittle bit like tally right now.
So there there wasn't as many people out there, at least not

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as many people that were willingto sit in 40° weather and watch
the Hokies play an exhibition game.
So the the vibes were a little little down this year, still
good, but not not quite where they had been, you know, last
last two to three years. But I think, like I said, I
think the format was good, but Ithink without your quarterbacks,
you kind of lost a little bit ofthe luster there.

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Yeah, without a doubt because obviously, well, first of all,
we've said it in the past and some people get pissed off Tally
in in Shelton, right? Some people are like, well, so
and so is not playing. Why is he not playing?
And we've screamed on this show like why do you want to go get
him hurt during the spring game?The season ain't till September,

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so when they said that, like youswitch your hands up and it's
like this sucks. I'd love to see him play, but we
get it right. Yeah, definitely.
I I don't know man, like so I guess most chat mostly I'll go
to the spring game, right. Put in the chat.
If you go to the spring game, most of if you have been like
most people, you don't go to thespring game really for the game.

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I mean, it's cool. You want to see some cool stuff
happen, but if you haven't been,I mean you going, you're going
for the for the vibes. It's a party, you know what I'm
saying? It's pre.
We we've been we've done the pregame show.
You know what I'm saying? You it's everybody's there.
It's like homecoming everybody. You you're meeting everybody.

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You get to eat with a couple of you guys.
Did we first meet at the did I did we finally meet face to face
at the spring game? Brian is that spring?
It was spring game. See, it's like been knowing
Brian for it feels like a decadeat least.
Like I thought he was. He could have been a Craigslist
killer. I don't know.

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He could have been fake. And I've been talking to this
guy and zooming him for 10 years.
But the spring game is what actually brought us together.
So the spring game is more than just the game now.
This year's game vibes are goingto be a little bit down just

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because of last season, things like that.
But like Brian said, I mean, it was cold out there.
I was saying it was just a bad day to have a spring game to get
everybody in town. So that's just, I think it's.
Going to end up being the coldest day in.
April it is. So it's been warm ever since.
It was warm the week before whenme and Brian were on the cruise

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y'all were getting. It was hot up here, wasn't it,
Shelton like the the, the last, the last few days of March, it
was like when we pulled back into Norfolk, it was 88°.
It was warm so. She she was cooking.
But let's go to it. Let's get to it.
Defense dominates 3721. We I was going to talk about
like each line what what a quarterback Karen was out, Pop

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didn't play. The only guy who got a lot of
reps is now in the portal. And so the only thing you can
maybe take from it is Keldon Ryan and AJ Brandt are big,
athletic looking dudes. Oh, there you go.
Well, Brian will be at that. I'll be back at it.
I'll be back at it. Holy shit.

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Me, my wife, my son will be there on on May 7th, so we're
ready. But though about the only thing
we can take with this from the quarterback room is those two
guys look athletically as advertised.
I mean that that's it. Can can we get anything else
from the quarterback room excepttheir their their potential

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floors and ceilings were higher than Davi Balfour.
That's why he's in the portal. I mean, that's basically what I
took away from it. You know, Davi definitely looked
the most polished from a passingstandpoint.
Obviously wasn't Rattle wasn't was a little more composed.
But I think when he's when you look at the athleticism and then

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you know, you look at the the size of brand combined with that
athleticism, you you definitely impressed.
And I think that they're lookinglong term at at those two guys
being who they're going to lean on from a long term perspective
at the quarterback spot. Yeah.
I mean, in in today's world, it's like if you aren't going to

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get on the field, you get in theportal.
You know what I'm saying? I mean, that's just what college
football is. So especially at the quarterback
position, you see somebody that comes in and you hear, you can
see, I mean, if you've been in any sports, somebody's got it,
they got it. If they've already started
overtaking you and you really want to get on the field or you

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really want to be somewhere where you can make a difference.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with hitting the portal, man.
I the portal is what it is. I know it needs some tweaking,
but for kids that need to get onthe field and, you know, need to
try to find a better situation for better situation for them,
like I'm cool with it. So no love lost for me, for

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anybody who who decides to do something for the future.
Except Tennessee's quarterback, but we'll talk about that later.
We will talk about that later. There's.
There's just, no, I mean, there's one, there's one
quarterback in the field at a time.
And I think, you know, it's a position where you, you want to,
you know, stack some bodies, butonce you find your guy, you're
going to come ride with him. Obviously that's Chiron, so you

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know my man out. And there he goes.
Well, the funny piece is we're sitting here, we talk about AJ
and Keldon and it's probably, I'm going to guess it's probably
going to be this time next year that in all likelihood, one of
them will probably go to the portal unless they unless
somebody jumps way up. And, and I mean, that's just
what it is nowadays. But so that's done quarterback.

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We know who the top two guys are.
We didn't get to see them, unfortunately, or we didn't get
to see them. We, we got to hear some comments
on how they looked and doing a few things, but we got to hold
that to ourselves. Let's go to the offensive line
because I think every single person, not only in this
podcast, but probably I would say 75 to 80% of Hokie Nation

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agrees. If we don't improve there, it'll
make a hill of beans a hill of shit.
If Kyron plays great, if we can run the ball like crazy with a
great running back wide received, make unbelievable
catches because the offensive line was below par last year and
this year's got to be better. Brian, I know you told me
starting 5. Johnny Garrett at left tackle,

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Lake Ganimet left guard, Kyle Altooner snapping center,
Ontavius Cunningham finally got to play with the ones at right
guard, and then obviously Thomasof Tomas Remack at right tackle.
OK, just straight up, I want to ask before I get to Brian

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Shelton and Tally. Y'all look at these guys on the
line. Do you automatically feel a
little bit better than last year?
Same or worse? Sheldon, you want to go or you
want me to go? You go.
So at the spring game last year,we did see Montavis Cunningham
get in the game, right? We did.
Was it a long screen or something?

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I've seen something happen with him run down field and make a A
block. At his size, that one play was
better than anything that two ofour starters did through the
whole year. So the fact that he couldn't get
on the field on a bad offensive line, something wasn't right.
You know, I just didn't understand it.

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So I think it was a little bit of a user error on the coach's
part. So I didn't feel like anything
we did was going to work. And, you know, Long story short,
those coaches are gone now. So, yeah, the people that we
have now, I feel it like it's going to be a upgrade at the
line, even if it's a slight upgrade.

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I just feel like that we will get some better play or we'll
move on to somebody else if we don't get better play, which is
what I don't feel we did last year.
Everybody knows this. We don't want to sound like a
broken record, but somebody messes up and sacks his own
quarterback. He stays in the game.
It's fucking dumb. So my opinion, think we'll be

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better there just for that. And I, I know the coaching is
better. Like I don't have to go into a
whole bunch of extra videos and talking and things like that.
That coach is better than the coach we had because of what
he's done. That's it.
Sheldon. Yeah.
I mean, I think, I think Remek alone kind of makes them better.

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And obviously with the coaching too, like I just, I mean, I as
as I've sort of reflected on last year, I think Needless to
say, we were not getting the most out of our potential under
Matt Moore's predecessor, to saythe least.
So I think, you know, but that you got some young guys come in

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this year. So it's like I, I think you're
muted curse, by the way. I think it'll be a situation
where they start off, you know, kind of slow and sort of figure
out, you know, just kind of whatyou know, how they how they play
together. And there'll be some growing
pains. But I think by the end of the
year, hopefully with good coaching, they'll kind of gel
together. But it's, it's going to take
some time just with with how much, how much you there is

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there. And again, that's what happens
when you ignore online recruiting for two years, which
is a conversation for another day.
But that's, that's what happened.
So we're stuck with it. Brian, you, you were, you were
there obviously taking a little mental notes, obviously having
people talk with give me, give me a couple guys what you saw,
what you like from each. Yeah, I was taking mental notes
during the game. That's you were taking.

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No, I mean, so looking at the game, looking back at the game,
you know, you got Johnny G, you got Ganem, you got Altoon or you
got Cunningham, you got Remac. I mean, Remac held a pretty good
in Pass Pro. You know, looking looking back
at the tape looked pretty good in the run game.
Gannon was still kind of up and down.

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I like some of what I saw. Had a couple whiffs that you
know, they're going to happen, but I'd like to see him clean
that up absolutely between now and fall.
Altoona lost control on a couplecombo blocks, but still held up
pretty well across the board, especially in Pass Pro.
I like him better in Pass Pro than what we had last year.

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We'll see if he's, you know, gotthat more, more mentality in the
in the trenches in the run. But I mean, he held up a little
bit better in pass Pro than the Moors did last year.
I'm interested to see how JohnnyGarrett holds up and left.
I think he did a pretty good jobin the spring game, but I don't
think there was a ton of interesting stuff thrown at him

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where where he may have had to make some decisions or there
needed to be some communication from the center or anything like
that. So I, I think it's still a wait
and see. I'm cautiously optimistic on the
offensive line, especially compared to last year.
I think this is a group that from a talent standpoint is
better than what we had last year.

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I just don't think that there's any single player on this line
as good as Xavier Chaplin. And that's my only concern
really at this point. I got you all right.
Who was the second group real quick?
So we saw Lynch, Nitta, Tommy Ricard, Bob Schick and Lucas

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Austin in that second. Group so and that leads into
this so the second group two of them are already in the portal
along with Webb Davidson, whose name you didn't see and I think
that says some Brian, we were talking.
You said you don't believe you ever recall seeing Brody
Meadows. So again, I'm going to tell
everybody who's hurt or nicked up.

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So but if you're telling me thisis just like the way I feel
about it. If you're telling me they have
told Bob Schick to kick rocks with the guy who has played as
much as he has over the last twoyears, then to me that's like a
new leaf turning over right? Because you know he can he's

(22:41):
solid in pass not the best in run, but he's a good body out
there when you need one. If you're telling me they, like
you need to go on you, you need to go on elsewhere, then that
says a lot to me. Also, Caleb Netta, who snapped
the balls in the bowl game, is gone.
It tells me Tommy Ricardo is probably looking a lot better
this time, too. Yeah, I.

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Think he was definitely nicked up at the bowl games.
I think some of that was an emergency situation and some of
that may have just been, you know, the, the, the current
situation we're dealing with andwanted to see what other guys
can do in, in, in that bowl game.
I don't know exactly what they were thinking for that but but.
All in all, we're we're tally Sheldon.

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Were either of y'all like shocked, especially with shit
when y'all when I sent y'all that tweet yesterday, it's like
Bob chicks in the portal where you you were shocked?
No, y'all weren't shocked. OK.
Nope, I was happy. Oh well.
Get them out of here. Get out of here.
Get on out of here. See, this is my thing.
If you're going to be sorry, at least be sorry with young guys.

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But I don't want to see old guysdoing the same thing.
Like if you were my age and you still making the same mistake,
you ain't going to take no old dog.
New tricks. Get the fuck on.
Get out. Like if you tell me you got a
line full of freshmen or freshmen and sophomore, they're
making a mistake and missing blocks.
Hey man, we might have to live with that.
That's growing pains. So that's like, I'm OK with

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that. Last year, 20.
Seven years old, still missing the combo block.
You ain't gonna ever make the combo block.
You're never going to get the combo block if you're missing it
at 2625. Like man, get a job.
Get. Your LinkedIn page, right?
Get that cover like get that cover letter going.
Get. That get that cover letter going

(24:31):
man, call you somebody. Chat your CV baby.
Man, ChatGPT it get you a resume, get your resume right so
you can and most of these I'm making jokes, but most of these
guys when they're that old, especially if you've been in
Virginia Tech, like you probablygot a good ass degree man, go
make some money. At this point, he's got at least
two I. Know a lot of people in Alabama

(24:52):
that's got this walking around and driving around with Virginia
Tech tags that I know don't watch a lick of football because
they're Virginia Tech grads and they are engineers and they are
their grass probably looks perfect because they go out
there and cut it with like freaking scissors and stuff like
that. And they're probably rich
because they make so much money and with their engineering

(25:14):
degree, go make you some money, man.
You ain't going to be good at football.
Every now and then they'll call you and say, hey, we need you to
come back and lead the cheer going into the fourth quarter.
Come do that. Let's go, Hokies, get the fuck
off the field. That's the only time you need to
be on the field. You don't ever need to put a
helmet on. So no disrespect to the people

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who left. Hey, what?
We, we, we got a tally deep cut here from Jim.
I I like this. We got a tally deep cut, you
know. Oh, yeah.
You know this about the Internet.
Man, I see that. Man.
My internet's been. You know what?
My internet's been doing better,too.
I'm happy. We know it has.
We've lost you. I was gonna say I don't think
y'all lost me since I went to Google Fiber.
Man, I'm giving Google Fiber a shout out.
If y'all are with AT&T, ditch them and go to Google Fiber.

(26:01):
Google Fiber, man, they, they put me, they put me two routers
in here. Extender, whatever you call it,
man. We've been we've been good to
go. Not a sponsor but y'all could
be. If you know Google, give us a,
give us a. Call.
Come on man, give us the call. Well, let's keep rolling and got
a off the offensive line a little bit, but staying with it.

(26:21):
This is like the transition point, Brian.
We know and we talked about it acouple times over the last few
months about Matt Moore's scheme.
It's some outside, it's his own kind of going on the outside.
It's gap inside. Did you see that and did you
like what it did on the inside? Yeah.
You know, what they're doing is they're mixing up a lot of that

(26:42):
kind of split zone with with thecounter.
So you got the H back in there and sometimes they're going
across, sometimes they're they're wall and they're kicking
back out away from the run. So there's a lot of different
things that they're doing with that that tight end, that H back
that gives them a lot of opportunities both inside and

(27:03):
outside. But we're going to see a lot
more pulling in this system inside.
I mean, you know, power and variations of power are going to
be kind of the bread and butter of the insider run for this
team. Y'all know what I did, man, for
like 15 minutes and didn't mean to do it.
I was going through my day at work, you know, YouTube just so

(27:27):
happened pops up. I pull up a video of Steven
People's highlights from whatever year that was. 2018
maybe. Sounds right.
Yeah. Our line was like Steven Peebles
was going to get you like 5 yards like he wasn't Tooting or
nothing like that. But I was watching the online
during that and it's on YouTube.I think it was like a 10 or 12

(27:51):
minute highlight video of StevenPeebles shot at the Steven
Peebles hard, hard nosed football player.
But the offensive line getting like four and five yards, just
that, you know, punching the ball in and stuff.
I'm like, man, what has this been?
We ain't even got a line to do this.
And this wasn't even good, you know what I'm saying?
Like that wasn't even like a oneof the best lines.

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But at the same time, just, you just look at the physicality and
things like that. It's much different than what
we've seen. So I'm I'm I'm very interested
and excited to see what more cando and what he brings to the
table, because like I said, I mean, he's a he's a proven
coach. Like I'm going to be mad no
matter what just because that's what I want to be right now

(28:35):
until I see something. But I do know that I will say
the coaching staff that we have,I feel like is better at just
about every facet than we were last year probably.
But this is probably Brent Prizebest coaching staff in my mind.
So, you know, as a whole. So I'm, I'm interested man.

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It is and and you mentioned about the run game.
I mean, again, this is vanilla and take credit what you will,
but we did average a little overfour and a half, 4.7 to carry
the kid from Coastal ran good. Bennett ran best.
Yeah, Braden Bennett, like 75 yards on 11 carries.

(29:23):
But again, it's so weird becauseyou know he's probably not going
to get that many carries in the game.
Right. No and.
It's probably going to be Stewart and probably would have
a little bit of Hawkins and Bennett.
It's going to be probably all over the place.
So you'll. Mix, you'll mix in Coney and
Mason behind him, but I mean it's going to mostly be Stewart

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and. Hawkins Yeah.
So again, we don't know. We didn't see effectively what
we probably wanted to see from the run game because without
Kyron, without Pop would have inthat element of the quarterback
run, which we know is going to happen.
You don't know what it's going to do.
And we know the defense in some ways was playing vanilla, and

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we'll talk about that in a little while.
But what did kind of pop was youcan always see the difference
between me watching like film and with somebody or things like
that, with somebody who knows what's going on is wide
receivers are easy to watch. You can see, oh, these are the
routes they're running. Oh, you know, he just went, you

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know, that was a double post route with a little drag behind
it or a little in routed behind it.
And I think Brian, you know, obviously the big play was Cam
Selden for maiden Green Kim Selden showing his athleticism,
showing his speed downfield. But in your eyes, who else

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popped in that and was there anything as you were watching me
and probably very vanilla offense that you kind of like
like, oh, I like that, I like that.
Let me if if we can do things like that with the full core,
we're going we're going to probably move the ball some this
year. Yeah, but I both greens look
pretty solid, even though they didn't necessarily get a ton of
action. You're looking at how they were

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doing like blocking. I was impressed with Donovan
Green outside. He did, he did pretty well with
the with the blocking. So I mean, we saw a lot of that.
We got to evaluate that a littlebit.
We saw Selden on the wheel with the double pass from Aiden
Green. You know, that was that was the
home run play. Saw Wiggins out there.
He looked pretty good, pretty solid.

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I mean, he, I know he, he kind of bobbled that, that diving
catch that ended up in the pick 6.
But I thought he, I mean, he made a, he made a really good
dive to try to get that. That was a pretty poorly thrown
ball that, you know, was almost a catch there, unfortunately,
and went the other way. Yeah, route concepts.
We saw a lot of, you know, drags, shallow ends, hitches,

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and then you're going to take some deeper shots off of that.
So it's going to be a lot of stuff kind of in that, you know,
3 to 7 yard range with the catch.
And the thing that I saw a lot is that there were a lot of
those that were open that the quarterback didn't get to for
one reason or another. And some of it was happy feet,

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some of it was just not getting through progressions quickly
enough. So, yeah, there was a lot of
opportunities and a lot of yardsthat were left on the field in
the passing game that you know, if if you've got a pop out
there, if you've got a Kyron outthere, you might end up seeing a
little bit more on the stat sheet than you saw from this
wide receiver group. Definitely.

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Only a couple passes behind the line of scrimmage.
Josh, don't worry. Don't worry.
Not too many, unfortunately. One of them got sniffed out real
quick by Knowledge Harold, who we'll talk about in a little
bit. He had, he had himself a pretty
good game. Yeah, I heard.
And so just like Brian was saying, so pretty much the two
quarterbacks we had in the game for the most part, right, were

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supposed to be seniors in high school.
So Brandon and and Ryan is supposed to be in high school,
right? Yeah, for about 2/3 of the game
that that's the guys that were in there.
So I mean, you know, you're going to get what you're going
to get there, but and we need our guys to be healthy moving in
if we want to make some noise moving into the next year.

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But Ryan got to hit the nail on the head.
Like you said, if you had the top two guys, you may have got
to see a little bit more out of the, you know, wide receiver
room. And the wide receiver room's
been banged up as well. You know, you got some of the
wide receivers that aren't thereas well right now.
So I'm interested just to see, you know, what route they go.

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How are they used to Kahi, you know, things like that cheer.
You know, I, I, I'm very interested to see what they do
with that room and who is going to step up to, you know, be that
third guy or that fourth guy andstuff like that.
And I did, I didn't watch much of the game.
I haven't watched much of it because like I said it, it, it
doesn't really matter to me right now.

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And I don't want to just be on that critiquing because I'm mad.
But I did see the, you know, and, and hear about and see the
the pick that Wiggins bobbled. And for him being a young player
man, it it it's going to be so good when he can make those
plays because that's going to betaking the next step for him.

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You know what I'm saying? Like he's going to be fighting
to get playing time, going to befighting to get on the field.
So when he gets to the level where he can pull those 5050
balls in, it's going to help theteam, but also going to help
him. So it's interested just to see,
you know, what happens moving forward through the summer,
who's going to step up? Because you know, it always

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happens. Somebody's going to stay the
same, somebody's going to step up, somebody's going to fall
off, somebody's going to get injured.
Don't want them to be injured, but I'm interested to see kind
of how those kids and how that room progresses.
All right, let me Sheldon's looking up something real quick.
Hopefully you can find the next couple minutes.
But I want to ask you all this because last year, do you all

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know who our leading receiver was?
Mason, Who was it? Was it Jay Lane?
Jaylen Lane. The only catches he had.
Probably 35. 39 So here's my question for y'all is with this
new offense coming in, how many the the leading receiver this

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year will have how many receptions?
Because I'm, I'm gonna throw it back.
Don't look at Auburn because to Tally's point, that won't fill
up Montgomery's offense at Auburn.
He got hijacked last time he coached A collegiate football
team. His top three guys were as
follows. 7653 and 37 and it was too tight at 37.

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So y'all think about it real quick.
I'll, I'll, I'll I'll I'm gonna let Sheldon go last.
He actually Sheldon go first. How many receptions will the
leading wide receiver have this year?
35 he's. Gonna go 35.
He's going. He's staying.
Low tally. I'd probably say 47.

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Let's go with 52. That's a.
That's a nice round. Number.
Oh, that's your favorite number?Anybody see?
I'm, I'm leaning with Brian herebecause if you look at the
offenses here and a it's balanced.
That's the first thing everybodysays.
He's a past heavy guy. No, he's not.
Most of the time about 400 past attempts, about 400 rush
attempts. So it's pretty balanced.

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And I think again, from what Brian's describing, think about
some of those easy underneath routes, drag routes, shallow
ends, you'll see him where he'llhave hookup guys out in the
flats. I'm tempted to say maybe plus
52, Brown, maybe almost 60. Because if you think a guy like
Donovan Green, who's played for like 14 years in collegiate

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football, which is pretty impressive that he's been able
to do that, he's somebody said he needs to shave the mustache.
Somebody make Ashley and shave the mustache.
I'm going to go pit him because that mustache is on point.
In my opinion. It is That thing is
distinguished. It looks beautiful.
Like keep, keep the mustache. But if you think somebody like a

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Donovan Green who's been at weight for a few years and you
know his skill set and then you start thinking about well,
Chand, anything about Selden andyou think about all these guys.
It's like, I think there is someone, if we run the offense
that we should run. If we were on the offense that

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we should run, then I think somebody could wind up with
close to 60. That's just my opinion, like
understanding it. And I kind of again, I look at
Donovan Green who is down in wakes offense.
I think he might be the guy, butit I just feel like it there is

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going to be someone that does something crazy with receptions
next year. Yeah, I feel like, I feel like
just me. And again, man, I promise you,
I'm not like wishing anything onnobody but somebody who's been
injured. It's kind of they're injury
prone. I don't want to use that word,
but like I can only judge the future by the past for the most

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part. So you've been getting injured
most of the time. Like I don't want to say this is
going to be your year. You're not going to get injured.
I just got to have in my head that what will we do if this
person isn't able to finish the season or this person has to
miss some games? So in my opinion, the person, if
I'm going to think about who would be the leading receiver,

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it's got to be Aiden Green. You know, it's got to be Aiden
Green. He's got to be the guy.
He's going to be the most versatile.
He's going to be the one who hastaken the most snaps at Virginia
Tech. It's probably going to be the
one the coaches rely on most, even though I know he did get
new, you know, new coaching, butthe head coach is still the
same. So Aiden Green is probably going

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to be the guy that they rely on the most unless somebody just
gets open and we're able to get them the ball, you know, all
comes down the offensive line. We know all that.
But I can say you have some guysthat you can use different ways
this year. I just hope they use them right.
Because if you use a guy like Brody Adams, when he come back,

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Keelan Adams, don't kill me. Keelan Adams.
Keelan Adams, when he comes back, right, I see it watching
him in the bowl game when he took that, you know, when he
took that pass, it's like he or that end of round, it's like
he's faster than that. Like I've seen him run a lot of
routes and I've seen him run. He's faster than well, I didn't

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know he was having knee problems.
You know, he wasn't 100%. So when you get a kid like that
or even Takah Heath, Kah Heath is real, you know, quick twitch,
you get him in a little bit of space, he can do some things.
So those are going to be some guys that may eat up some, you
know, 10 yard or 10:10 passes around the around the line of

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scrimmage. But also you got to have
somebody who can take the top off.
So who did we use to take the top off last year?
Any of y'all? Felton.
Felton and yeah, Felton. So in in my opinion, nothing
wrong with Felton, but Felton isn't even your fastest guy.
Like that's not your take the top off guy.

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We never put Jay Lane in the position and again, the
quarterback didn't have much time to throw the ball, but Jay
Lane's a four two guy. Hey, you just run and let's see
if we can throw it to you. We didn't do that a lot.
Like even when they were talkingabout it during the combine, it
was like, well, Virginia Tech didn't use them to do this a
lot. But he's he's super fast.
And again, he was hurt as well. But I'm just hoping with all

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this rambling, I'm just hoping that the new offensive
coordinator comes in and uses the pieces where they need to be
used. I'm OK with each guy getting 10
catches if they're productive, 10 catches.
Put this guy here, let him do what he does.
Good. Put this guy here, let him go do
what he does. Cam Selton, right.

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He's a track guy that came from running at or from being a
running back. He's probably not going to be
the most crisp route runner, buthe should be one of the fastest
guys on the team. Probably going to put him on a
deep ride and see if we can throw him the ball and not try
to put him on some complicated this and that.
I don't know man, y'all know howI feel about our old offensive

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coordinator so. We go with that stuff, all
right, Sheldon, break it to us. So does Phillip Montgomery
offenses. How many?
What's the percentages behind the line of scrimmage?
So I had to reduce the the number of attempts because they
they throw so infrequently behind line of scrimmage.
So the last two years at Tulsa where Montgomery had control the

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offense, Davis Brin was dead last among all all FBS
quarterbacks and percentage of throws behind the line.
So it's around 5.6% they do not throw behind the line.
Davis Davis Brin was our quarterback.
He was pretty good. They got injured at the cell end
of that 22 seasons, but pretty put up some pretty, you know,

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big numbers. They pass a lot, but they just
don't go behind the line. So it was kind of, yeah, yeah,
5.6% for for Joshua, Wisconsin. So about one out of every, I
guess 20 rows. So which isn't really, I mean.
That's a big switch out for whatwe saw from from T bows, yeah.
Yeah, you don't say like and it and it gets to what our friend
Chris Coleman was saying, which is like, we don't necessarily

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know how well Montgomery fits our personnel.
So like Kyron, a guy like Kim, you know, at least in 2023, a
lot of his his success was predicated on, you know, throws
upon line of scrimmage, getting guys in space, using the seal
guys using their speed on the perimeter and setting up big
plays with blocking. But and they did some of the two
last year, not as effectively, but that's that's the way Kyron

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was used effectively. So I don't know if we're going
to how, how that kind of contrast is really going to
going to mesh well next year. So that'll be interesting to
see. So we, we saw a couple, like
looking at the spring game tape,we saw really a couple that you
would consider they were either behind the line or designed to
be a behind the line of scrimmage plays.
That I remember you had kind of a zone RPO that, yeah, you could

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really kind of drop out to the, the, the HVAC that was coming
across got to that split zone RPO.
Ultimately they didn't throw it,but that would have been a
behind the line of scrimmage opportunity.
And then they threw a swing pass.
They got ate up by Knowledge Herald.
That's the only two plays that Iremember in the spring game that
were like true behind the line of scrimmage designs.

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And I think something like that is probably what you're going to
see from a behind a lot of scrimmage standpoint.
There's not going to be a true scream.
Look, you're definitely not going to get any screens to the
tight end like we saw a plethoraof under Tebow.
So expect maybe like, you know, swings and maybe some of that
RPO in the split zone kind of really being the, the only, you

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know, couple that you'll see from time to time.
Obviously with the caveat that they might, you know, change it
up and add a little additional color to that as as we get
further into the playbook. Yeah, and then 111 real quick
point, I just I'll put a cap right now.
So I looked up for for Kyron Summers last year.
We were good throwing behind theline in 2023, but 24 was really

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bad. We were we were dead last in the
FBS and passer rating on throws behind the line.
So for Brian, I don't know how much of that was, you know,
maybe guys not hitting their blocks.
How much of that was, you know, defense is starting to key on
those on those plays more because I think we have full
full year of film. You can kind of identify that.
And so maybe maybe tech was predictable in terms of how they
structure the passing game. That could have been the case.

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So again. Said that.
I remember y'all saying that about, I don't say eight games
of the season. It's like people.
No, I think it was a combinationof everybody saying Tebow did
not build like you have these plays that are good, you can't
keep just going to that. You have to put new stuff in.
Or what you just said right there happened, Shelton, where

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you go from a solidly successfulteam on passes behind a line of
scrimmage to Jesus Christ, we can't get anything done behind
the line of scrimmage where lastyear we we throw a pop pass, we
get 15 yards. This year we can't do anything.
So. I like screens.
I mean, I know Josh doesn't, butI like screens.
But I was, I was screamed out. I was screamed out.

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Well, because it was the same screens all the time, it wasn't
variations. Yeah.
I mean try to hide them. We just tried it out there.
It looked like my son's team wasplaying.
They had him playing quarterbacktelling him, hey, throw the ball
to 72. Hey, throw the ball to 10.
I'm like, that ain't no freakingoffense.

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They the other team probably hears you.
You know, you're supposed to be a, you're supposed to be a high
level college football coach andteam.
We didn't look like that. I think Shelton hit the nail on
the head when he said something about, I don't know how much of
it was predicated on passing. I mean on blocking.
Let me tell you, all of it was predicated on blocking, which we

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didn't do good. You know, the people we had
blocking wasn't blocking worth the shit at all, ever, ever.
We were stepping on the quarterback and guess what?
I'm all for a coach changing hissystem to fit his players.
That's what I think a good coachis.

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Not an Alabama fan. I'm a Nick Saban fan.
Nick Saban would change offense or defense to fit his players.
Y'all remember when Alabama usedto turn around and run the ball
like a? 100 * a.
Game and then they start gettingthese quarterbacks that could
move and throw and throw on the run and do all this stuff and
Alabama fans will steal. I was like, you know what, man,

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that's a good coach. He hired some people who trained
with the times. I want to see that done.
And then if your players ain't getting it done, it's OK to sit
them down. Hey, buddy, you can't throw the
ball. You're a quarterback.
Come over here and watch the game with me.
You got the best seats in the house.
Let's put this kid in and see what he can do.
That's what I think should happen, but I'm not the coach.

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I ain't making millions of dollars.
So hoping that's what they do. All righty.
So there's a little bit of the offense and what we've seen.
Obviously we we got to wait months now, but let's flip over
to the defense because the defense had a highly successful
day. Because they it won't.
Many people who weren't aren't going to be starters that were

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not there. Like they were full in force.
They were running extra vanilla because Brian, I believe you or
Robbie mentioned like they mean blitz.
Like they didn't even do blitzes, which we know.
They had a handful of zone blitzes.
That's about all they did. They didn't bring any like heavy
pressures on on passing downs oranything like that.
Usually if they it was more if they brought pressure, they were

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essentially trading out who was coming and who wasn't they, but
they were still only rushing 4, maybe 5 at the most.
So yeah, it was pretty. It was pretty vanilla.
True. All right, let's get into it.
Let's just talk about obviously everybody's focused on the
safeties. Brian, you were there, you saw

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it in person. You you looked at a little bit
of the, the game. What's this, What's this?
Who's the who's the best of the all the guys that we brought in?
Yeah, looking at that safety group, Christian Ellis has stood
out to me as looking the best. He's going to be a ball hawk

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when when I when I look at him, I saw him.
There was one where he jumped around and Davi almost threw it
and he he pulled it back, ended up taking a sack and but he was
going to be there. He was ready to it was it would
have been a pick six. It would have been it would have
been a beautiful thing if if Davi would have thrown that one.
He looked really good. He was in in in every place he

(49:38):
needed to be that I could tell. And he did a good job, as good
of a job in coverage as he did in in hell in assisting in the
run game. So he's definitely the guy that
I think is going to be the most impact player of the new guys on
the defense so far as far as we're the safety position is
concerned. All right, and then what did it

(49:59):
look like what we mixing and matching And you know it's
pretty much is this going to be all the new guys with Quinn
Reddish that pretty much going to be the room.
That's what I'm thinking. I mean, so we, we really saw
five guys out there. We saw Ellis and Flowers kind of
in Group 1. Koval and Cash were in Group 2.

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Johnson mixed in there. When Reddish is healthy, he's
going to mix in there. Obviously Johnson is no longer
in that group. But if that's probably the five
that we're looking at, we're looking at Ellis, Flowers,
Koval, Cash with, with Reddish kind of mixing in there as well.
I don't know whether he'll be inGroup one or Group 2 or kind of
mixing in with Group 2, but he'll be in that mix as well
all. Right now, let's talk about the

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cover stuff because I know you looked at it and Robbie saw it
and we tried a little bit about it.
I think the one thing that has me probably excited about the
defense is it's a disguise defense.
And I remember Robbie messaged me after he saw spring game or
messaged me. And you, Brian, he's like, yeah.
He's like, they look like they're in Cover 2 shell right

(51:01):
here. And the next thing you know,
they in Cover 30, they're, oh, they're going to run a single
high and the next thing you know, they're in Cover 2.
How did that look? Because it looks from the way
you described it to me and the way Robbie was describing it,
Tally, I know you haven't watched as much, but from you
playing it seems like that back end is almost we can show you

(51:25):
anything, but we can get to whatever we want to confuse you.
Yeah, when I when I was looking at it, it, it was really, I
think, I think we're going to call some teams some problems.
I think also, you know, with with adding that additional
complexity to the coverage, you know, you're at risk that if

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somebody doesn't get a call or somebody isn't quite where they
need to be, you know, you blow acoverage.
But what I'm seeing is that there's going to be a lot of
opportunities for us to confuse some quarterbacks and I like
that there. It looks like it's a very
simplistic way of disguising thecoverage because it's it's

(52:13):
usually just a it's it's kind ofa replace situation or either
you got a match call and depending on where where things
go, you know, one guy can pick up pick up the the wide out and
and stay with him there. There was a lot of interesting
ways that they mixed in the coverages.
I mean, we saw a lot of cover three.
You just some cover 2, some cover one.
They went to, you know, cover 6 a couple times.

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But I mean, I think majority, we're going to see two and get 3
and then three and get 2. That's kind of going to be the,
the bread and butter. But I, I, I think that's going
to cause some guys, some problems, especially because we,
when you mix in the zone blitz with that, I think that that's
going to cause quarterbacks someheadaches because they're,

(52:56):
they're now having to adjust their brain of where they want
to go with the football because the coverage is shifted up.
And now they got a pressure coming from here that they
didn't see. Josh said.
Josh says this what Ellis does. The broken wrist set him back.
Somebody broke their wrist. When did he break his wrist?
I haven't heard anything about that.

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Yeah, I ain't known about that. Hey.
Drop the link Josh for us if. I mean, I, I don't think it sets
him back too much. I mean, usually a wrist.
But have you heard about it? I haven't.
I haven't either. Usually that's a four to six
week recovery, but I don't know.I mean, it might, he might not
be in summer workouts the way you want him to, but I think

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you'll be good to go for the fall.
Who said? Who did French say was trash?
French said somebody was garbage.
Trench hated cash, no. No, no, I don't think.
It was, I thought it was flowers.
I thought it was flowers. Flowers.
Flowers. That's the guy.
That's the key from Rice, right?Rice, yeah.
What do you look like, Brian? I mean, I thought he looked
pretty good. I mean, he did look bad.

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He's doing a lot, lot of the he's he's playing deeper more
often than not. So like when he when he's back
in coverage, he's playing deeperor he's matching up in man.
French they on your ass Well, I wasn't on your ass buddy.
He is going to prove you wrong. Got to pick you up in his locker
right now. He taking a.

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Locker. He snapped the picture.
Here in the show, watch the. Podcast.
He's like, all right bet. We have a new.
Locker room yet it's coming. It's coming.
I've heard that for three years though, I think.
It's true this year. That's why I was.
Asking we we edging the fuck outof this locker room.
What are we doing? We keep pulling it back for we

(54:46):
keep pulling it back for NIO money.
We're going to do it this year. Picture going to be up in that
new locker room. Buddy boy there.
You go, Brian, you mentioned Harold couple times playing the
nickel. We know IBM is the nickel guy
too. I mean is is that base do?

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You think, I mean, we were in nickel pretty much the whole
game, which I mean against the spread look, it makes sense.
Like you're, you're that's kind of what you expect.
You know, we we switched up the front a little bit.
Sometimes it was more that true,you know, 24 look, sometimes it

(55:28):
was a it was an odd look with a hanger.
So it just kind of depended on what they were going.
But I mean, the back end was pretty consistent there.
Yeah, you had IBM Brown Murray was kind of the first nickel out
there. But knowledge Harold was was the
number two and I was really impressed with the way he played

(55:48):
in the spring game. I ain't been watching it.
I know he was going to be a dog.Supposed to be in high school
too. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he was out there and he was, he was making some plays.
He was where you're supposed to be under control.
Didn't look like he was, you know, a guy that was going, you
know, overrun a play or anythinglike that.

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He he did really well. All right.
Obviously the news you mentionedJohn, Braylon Johnson being on
here, Brendan Johnson now in theportal, I mean.
It's. In my shock, no, because of
everything that happened with the change.

(56:29):
But it's also it it's that pointto where eventually you got to
be able to play, which I think Braylon Johnson is going to be
able to play college football somewhere.
But I I think no longer somebodythink about this.
It's like we're, we're not goingto just save a spot just because
of where you went to high schoolor who your daddy is or.

(56:52):
I I think you can give a show meoffer and, and let them get on
campus and show what they can do, but you're not going to hold
it for four years. There you go.
Just because and you know, looking at that, I mean, you
know, the thing the concern thatwe had with Braylon Johnson
coming in is that he was kind ofa tweener.
You know, he's a he's a cornerback that, you know, we

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essentially had at safety wasn'tquite as fast as fleet of foot
as you would like to see from from a corner, kind of wasn't as
physical and as good doing the things that you have to do with
the safety that we wanted to see, especially.
I mean, when we look at coming up and making plays in the run

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game. I mean there, there was a lot of
a lot of whiffs from Johnson in that last year.
You know, we we saw a couple things that that that went on in
the spring game as well. It's just one of those things
where at at some point, if you're not moving up the depth
chart, you got to make a decision.
And and I think, you know, some,some conversations were had that
said, hey, you're going to be you're going to be the sixth

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guy. And it you know, you, you're
already, you know, working on your third year in this program.
What we looking at here? Said the new locker rooms with
wit will be the old locker room with wallpapered in Found your
corner quotes. I hope so.
Hey, I, I. Hope I do not, no.

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If anything's going to motivate them kids to play, it's going to
be our quotes, man. It's going to be our quotes.
Oh Lord that's what you want. We will live in infamy in that
shitty ass locker room. This is something that I'll ask
Curtis. I'm.
Going to tell you, Can I say something?
Go ahead, you. Always own one in the chat
tonight. All of y'all.

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I mean y'all is on one go they. Ramped up.
They ramped up. They all ramped up.
Curtis, this is what I asked, though, because I don't know for
sure. I have not been on Twitter for
real. Or X or whatever you want to
call it, X videos. I don't know what we called it
today, but is Braylon Johnson isa grad transfer, right?
Did he get his degree in like 3 years or two years?

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He got in 2 1/2. I think he did, Yeah.
That's crazy. That's awesome for him though,
to leave with a degree and leaveus a grad transfer like that's,
that's good. That's pretty good.
That's that's damn good. But yeah, in in I'm on mute.

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It's like 30 of them quotes in the locker room.
Right. All right, all.
Right. Thankfully we don't have any
more. We lost tally we.
Lost Tally, you said? Brian, you're on mute, Brian.
I mean, Curtis, Curtis, you're on mute.
That's what I'm saying. No, you're not on mute, but I'm

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just saying. That's what y'all got to do.
Well, it's the court over here. All right, real quick, kick the
linebackers. McDonald and Fleming are gone.
Same thing. Both McDonald's are gone.
Cam Fleming's gone, tried to make the move to linebacker,
didn't work out. But Brian, I think from what
we've seen in reading, it's, it's pretty much Keller Woodson,

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George, George Balance, shout out George Balance and Kayla, I
mean, Kayla Spencer, right? Hey, man.
So, yeah, there there was There was some fun rotations at
linebacker, you know, the usual suspects.
She had Keller, you had Woodson.Hang on, where is?
Where is the where? Where's the?

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Where's the? Oh, no, no.
I got. I got.
I got you I. Got you, Josh Young.
Josh Young. Put it in there.
Yeah, I'll find it. Anyway, three time spring ball
MVP Jane Keller in the starting rotation at Mike Woodson playing

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the other backer there. He had Balance and Spencer in
there as well. I wouldn't say concerned, but
like I'd like one more in the portal.
I think that's kind of the my big take away from seeing this
group and I I think they will hold up just fine.
But I don't think I, I think maybe even we'll see some

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additional, some better play compared to last year, But I'd
still like to maybe get another body in that room that has some
experience in the portal as we're moving forward.
I think, you know, looking at the offers we're throwing out
there, that's not the only I'm not the only person thinking
that. Yeah, and I mean, I think,

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again, I think what you said, wecan live with it, but it's depth
is depth, right? And you know, Keller's gone
after this year. I believe balance is gone after
this year too. So if anything, bringing the
other guy in you, you kind of are setting yourself up for the
future And and I don't know, spring to me, fuck the spring
portal. Springboard needs to go away.

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I'm just going to be real. Spring Portal needs to go away.
You know, that's, that's just myfeeling.
You want to do it. It needs to be sometime after
the bowl games, but after national championship, it starts
here. It's like 2 weeks.
That's it. Then do it.
Spring Portal fucks too much shit up, which we're going to

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talk about later. All right, Sheldon, you're back.
Sheldon, people are very worriedabout you out here, very worried
about you that potentially did you get Tally's Internet?
Are you? Are you on Tally's Internet?
I did not get Tyson. I had to.
I had to take care of some business, got some water and now
I'm back. OK, let's go to defensive

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alignment because I think of again after safeties.
The only thing we kind of don't know is what the defensive
alignment looks like. Again, look in it and Shelton
you, you, you wrote stuff on this, you've read about it.
See if kiss can do anything. That's the whole thing.
He does not care. He to me, he is not married to
anyone idea. He's not married to anyone idea.

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Front looks, all this stuff which I really like because it's
you have to play through the personnel you have there and
from what it looked like on Saturday, 2 weeks ago, it's
going to look like that this year.
So y'all, we, we, we, we, we wrote some notes when we chatted
with each other. What did y'all like seeing out

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of all this as far as the alignments go?
I mean, I like that, that we're kind of adapting the, the
alignment based on the, the way that the offense wants to attack
us. So we we can, we can really be

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flexible to what what they do and take that away.
I think that's, that's one of the benefits of being, being
multiple is that you may not be a hammer at everything or at one
specific thing, but you're like,all right, you're a drill at

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pretty much everything. Like you can, you can handle
some stuff here, you can put some stuff in.
So there's a, there's a benefit of not really having as many
holes or weaknesses relative to what an offense is trying to do
from a scheme standpoint. Again, the the downside is that
you know, if you, if you are really good in one area, you

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know you lose a little bit of that, that high end in that
specific spot, but you know you can, you can.
It gives you a lot more flexibility with different
looks, adapting to personnel a lot quicker and adapting to what
a a certain scheme is going to throw at you.
I got you and you go ahead and hit us up here.

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Who was where and did you like where everybody was or was it
one of those things like is it? Should this guy really be on
this? Say that one more time.
So tell us who was where and is there anything you disagreed
with? Was there anybody when you saw
them line up at a certain technique, you were like, should

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he really be there right now? Or were you like, you know what
makes sense, makes sense, got tolive with it because of what you
got? All right.
So I mean, let's let's do a rundown of the defensive line
real quick and kind of where they were, what they were in and
things like that. And then I can talk about what I
don't really agree with, I guess.

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So primarily what we had interior 2 I and then you had a
A3 or A4 I opposite that on the inside kind of that wide 9 or a
or an angled 7 look from the defensive ends.
Typically depending on whether there was a tight end either

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overhang or in line on their side or not.
You had Jonkum on one side, Burgos on the other.
At at the the outside linebackerpositions, Jonkum had his hand
in the dirt about 50% of the time, maybe not quite that stand
up the rest of the time. A lot of times handles in the
dirt on those early downs. You know, Gilliam and Copeland

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were at the two I in the 3-4 I, you know, depending on the
alignment, they're respectively in the first group.
You had laws and Nash in the second group in those same
spots. And then the third group was was
Evans and Priester. And that's, that's kind of where
I was like, hang on, we got you got you got Priester at the at

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the three and then you got Evansat the two.
I was a little shocked to see that probably Priester was the
one that impressed me the least in that group.
I thought he was really good at eating up some blocks.
He didn't really shed well. He wasn't going to be an impact

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player as far as like shoot the gap or anything like that.
He's very much a guy that's going to eat blocks and let
Woodson and Keller guys behind him feast a little bit, but he's
not going to really be that dynamic player that we saw with
Aeneas Peebles, right? So don't expect that from
Priester, at least not this year.

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Copeland flashed a little bit more of that.
Obviously he's he's higher up inthe depth chart, but he flashed
a little bit more of that. I was, I like seeing Laws mix in
there with Nash. I think that's going to be a
pretty good combination behind Gilliam and Copeland and seeing
Evans get that much run, you know, this early in his career

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was, you know, promising as wellfor his future development.
Well, Evans, y'all weren't. Y'all weren't on a couple weeks
ago. Evans checked in 62290.
That's and again, that kid supposed to be going to prom
next week, not be that 6290 coming in.
He's got the chip because remember, he won the Under

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Armour stuff up in Maryland. Didn't get bumped at all where
he should have probably been a four-star and that is what it
is. But Speaking of defensive line,
let's let's pivot real quick to this.
One of the McDonald's twins is out.
But today we got a commitment from Cody Huseman.
Defensive tackle pronunciation to be determined but.

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You know, that's what I see it as if anybody's got it put in
ChatGPT and make it happen. But defensive tackle, I think
Brian, when, when I, first of all, Tally got mad and it's
like, I need someone I know that's the first thing you
texted Tally. He got upset about it.
Tally. Tally was conflicted because

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Tally's like we finally got a green box there.
Shout out Kobe Crawford. We finally got a green box, but
it's not somebody I know. I want another neus peoples.
I know that's going to be hard, but give me a proven guy.
That's why I was at at that time.
You know, I calmed down a littlebit, but I'm still mad like if
you want to go to the next level, you got to get some next

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level guys. This guy going to be a next
level guy. And I'm excited about being
Bale. You know, I'd like to see the
I'd like to see the five twins on the field at the same time.
I know he's well, he's not thereyet, so that'll be good.
You know, they got some good stuff going.
Brian brought me back down to earth a little bit.
It might have been Curtis. They have been doing they've
done they've done pretty good inthe portal.

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So I got to give them a little bit of leeway.
You know, a lot of the people that we brought in through the
portal, I think somebody even said it earlier talking about,
you know, we wouldn't have got APR if we didn't have a portal
at certain times, things like that.
So, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm,I'm excited to see what we can

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do if we go after anybody else who leaves, who stays, all of
that stuff. We didn't kicked enough people
off. We got some room.
We better go after some people. Yeah, definitely.
The big thing I'll say about him, I like his experience.
I mean, he played 16 games last year.
He played a bunch of games the year before and he red shirted a
couple years ago and he's like 6-4.

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He's like 290. And I think, Brian, you made the
point. I think, I can't remember where
you put it, but you said this isjust good for Priester because
this gift, Priester, Priester now does not have to be forced
into action. Priester can well a his.
We know his weight in size now. Well, now it's like let's focus

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on technique with him, which is good, which is what needs to
happen. With, and I think his movement
too, like I think if he can get a little bit more explosive,
like even if you know, and that may be sizing down even just a
little bit from where he's at. But yeah, I think if he can get
a little bit more explosive fromworking in the weight room

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doing, doing some conditioning, things like that, I think he
could really, you know, make some noise.
But I don't think he's quite there yet.
This gives us some flexibility that really gives us, you know,
at least five, maybe 6 guys if Evans continues to progress that
you can kind of rely on in the middle there.
Show me anything on him. I don't know if you looked up

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stats or anything about his playon PFF.
Yeah, I just did. He was.
So he was the 19th highest graded FCS interior lineman out
of almost 500. So it's pretty good.
You guys may recall Arias Nash, who we also signed a little
while ago, the the DT from Mercer.
He was the number he was #5 highest graded DT.

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So, so we got two of the top 20 FCS defensive tackles, which is
pretty good. I mean, I know it's FCS, but
like, you know, just reality is like, you know, when you're a
program like Vt, you kind of gotto find those, you know, those
smaller school guys like those Simons in the rough.
And I think I think the staff has done a good job of trying to
get those guys that come from winning programs.

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You know that they kind of know,you know, just about that.
They have kind of they have thatwork ethic and you know, have to
kind of punch them with their way a little bit to get trying
to get guys like that. So I think it's AI think it's a
pretty good pick up. Sure.
That's a great point to make is about the winning program thing
because Mercer, what, 11 and three last year made it deep in
the FCS playoffs. Obviously, you know, North

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Dakota State is the best of the FCS and last year I believe that
they went, they won it last year, right?
Yep, they won't beat Montana State.
They beat Montana State, they were 14 and 2.
So it's like, you know, they're good football.
It it's effectively can they elevate to come to the highest
level where everybody's just as good across from you.

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And I think again, tally, you mentioned a little bit earlier,
that's the best thing about the portal now for these guys
because these guys would never they would be looked at.
But now if they come up and theyabsolutely ball this year at
Tech, they're going to get drafted probably.
You know, you think about like, like Jay Lane, as good as he was

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at Middle Tennessee, if he doesn't come to Tech.
Same with Basil too. They don't get that opportunity.
So I think it's pretty good. Brian, I know Bell did not play.
I know Burgos, something happened, but he was looking
good, did something and they were like, Nope, you ain't
playing no more. You go over here and sit, but

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you're feeling OK. Between Burgos, Jonkum, Aysen,
Steven James, Jeanette, Ben Bell, do you?
Or, as always, go get an edge rusher.
Don't matter. I mean, throw one more in there.
You couldn't hurt. I I think, you know, you got
Bell coming in. I think you might.

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Well, Bell's there. He he just hurt his shoulder.
Yeah, but I'm saying as far as playing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you know, he's, he's
going to be somebody that you can count on, you know, come to
fall. I'm I'm a little little
concerned if, if we don't have maybe one more in there, though,
because I like what I saw from Ace and I thought Jeanette he

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played a little bit better when he was kind of having to he was
in that those those zone blitz looks.
I I didn't see a ton of rush from him where where he's going
to be some sort of impact playerfrom a from an edge perspective.
I think he could be a solid player, but I don't I don't
think he's actually going to be be a big impact guy.

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You know, so you got three guys you feel like you can rely on
Burgos, John Cumbell, you got Ace and Stevens that's coming
along. And then you got Jeanette.
That is probably a little more niche in terms of what he can do
for you. So it it wouldn't hurt to get
one more guy in that room that can kind of mix in with those
guys all. Right so go go to home 3 or 247

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and look it forward and find an edge for us.
Y'all cornerback room, last roomI hit.
I mean any from the look of the defense we're probably running.
I mean we we've got IBM and I think the way you said knowledge
played, I think it's going to betough to keep him from getting a

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red shirt this year. I think the way you've mentioned
how he played. But who else?
Who else in that room? You've obviously got Lovis,
Tomic Williams, Josh Spark did not play there is there's stuff
saying he he might not be back for fall.
We'll have to hear that when we see it.

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But who else got some run and who else did you like?
And what about Lovett? Did is does Lovett look like he
took that step? He looks like he took that step.
I think he's definitely going tobe easy stepped into that dog
role in that room. I think the big question is, is
there going to be other guys that can run with him at a

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consistent level where, you know, we don't get into
situations where if one guy's down or especially if it is
Lovett where we're, you know, behind the 8 ball, especially
for if we're not going to have Clark, you know, come to fall.
So I liked what I saw from IBM. He did blow the the double pass
coverage there. You know, it was a bunch bunch

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wheel route from Selden. As soon as the first pass
happened, he jumped it and, you know, seldom took off and to the
races and and you know, Braylon Johnson was on the back end of
that and didn't really do a goodjob of kind of getting over
there from a safety perspective.Thomas Williams looked pretty
good and no, no real big notes there.

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I tell you. JoJo Krim was probably the
younger guy that probably poppedoff a little bit more than I
expected. So keep an eye on JoJo Krim.
Christian Williams got in the mix as well, Was fine.
Not nothing impressive, but I'd say as far as like high ceiling
guy, JoJo Krim of the younger guys is going to be the guy to

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keep an eye on. You heard a lot, heard a lot of
good stuff about Krim just coming out of camp and things
like that. So man, you got to you got to
put the got to put the dogs on the field.
You know, you got to burn some shirts this year.
You got to put some people in and you know, put the best, the
best talent that you have on thefield to try to win games.

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So sometime the best talent is young talent.
All right, y'all real quick, Andretti say you want to play
games with y'all. Y'all get that?
Down Andretti's in the house. Andretti's in the house.
I think this is another room I like.
I think you need one more just to feel good.

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Don't be, don't be, don't be mean to numbers.
We're going to talk about the. Four.
Hey man, we got we got some weird numbers.
Here we always got weird numbersthere we.
Got junk of a 66. I mean, I guess that's fine.
Got cream at 35. We don't have it.
We don't have the the double fours outside anymore, Tally.
Good, we don't need them. Well, we got a 35 somewhere

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running around back there now, so yeah, that ain't no better.
He took up he he he took the mantle.
He took the mantle. 44 is on a. And at least 35 is a safety
number. Maybe not.
Not a that's true. Not a linebacker number.
All right. Obviously, we kind of went
through it. We told you where we feel like
we see with the portal and that's wide open right now.

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Over the next few days, one commit today, probably a few
more coming in the next couple days.
We'll see how they land. We'll probably discuss those
transfers and the impacts on them.
But let's flip over to the big portal shit that went down over
the last couple weeks. And that's the Nikko.
I am a lever situation. I don't know who wants to start,

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but if anybody would like to take the mantle and start with
this situation and just give us your honest to God opinion about
what happened. Tally this seems like you're
you're bread and. Butter and you close to it too,
Tally. Oh.
Man, I don't know that just the portal is so crazy How look at

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things though I feel like, and this is going to sound crazy,
this is going to sound crazy. So y'all just hang in there with
me. A million dollars, $2,000,000
whatever the numbers are $3,000,000.
Would I love to have it at 39 years old?
Yeah of course. But what these kids are trying

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to do with this NIL $2,000,000 ain't going to be shit.
That's not going to change your family's life forever like you
think. So you're chasing this, in my
opinion, little bit of money when you can go and make the
real money. And these coaches are
fraternity, man. I just feel like these kids put
theirself in bad spots and families put themselves in bad

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spots by playing that money game.
And then when it comes down to doing, you know, NFL ratings and
NFL interviews and things like that, what's going to be said in
them back rooms? Hey, y'all, you might want to
stay away from him. He's going to be, you know, he's
not loyal. He's going to play your team for
money, whatever the case may be.So I just wish people would be

(01:20:35):
more careful with things like that.
And then on the surface of this,just the surface, not even
thinking that deep into it. It's like stuff coming out.
He didn't want to play the the didn't want to play the playoff
game. Asking for more money then
wanting more money. Now.

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I probably would rather stick with Josh Hyper than the UCLAI
don't even know who. Who is the UCLA coach?
Curtis having to Google it? He don't.
He don't fucking know was. It more or something or?
I think you're. Right.
All I'm saying is I've seen Hyper turn some good players

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into NFL players. I probably would want to stick
with him and get the real money because the kid has talent so
he's going to get itself to the next level with his talent for
the most part. Long as he don't do nothing
stupid and get hurt any of thosethings.
I probably would want to stick out with a coach that I know has

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proven that he can get quarterbacks to the NFL so I can
get the real life changing moneyand worry about the little money
that you're getting now because if your talent can get you
$2,000,000 in college, what can he get you in the NFL?
Look at Cam Ward. Yep, pretty calm Ward man, Bet
on the self, you know, put yourself in the right positions

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and probably going to be the first pick in the draft.
What kind of money is that? Like that?
I just wish these kids and this,these families would go back to
knowing like that's the real goal.
That's the life changing money there.
But we're chasing this quick money and I just feel like that
quick money is going to have some stipulations on it.

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Sooner or later they're going tostart putting some stuff on that
well, it's going to hurt some ofthese kids.
And then my real opinion is, is fucking dumb.
Stupid. It was dumb.
Like this whole situation was stupid.
She had many any feelings on this, as you and I, I don't know
how much you get when Shelton's working.

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I don't know how much he gets toread into these situations and
do all that. But anything on that?
No, I read a lot with this. I, I say this every day because
it's because I'm, I'm interestedin like the, the politics and
like the, the litigation aspect of this whole debate.
You know, that's not the podcastand stuff.
I mean, I could go on forever, but I would say just give, give
my main thought. Like I'm a big, I'm a big free

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market guy. I think that Nico has his rights
to bargain for what he feels it might be worth.
I also think Tennessee has everyright to make a financial
decision in their best interest.And they decided to do that and
they moved on. So to me, this is like the free
market at work here. I know it's, you know, turbulent
time, but I think this is just, you know, two parties deciding,

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you know, what's best. And ultimately, Nico, you know,
screwed himself out of some money, or so it would seem.
But I mean, that's the bet he made.
So, you know, you make in life, you sometimes make decisions
that don't turn out the way you want to.
And you just got to learn from it.
And, you know, that's his that'shis right as an American.
So I'm not super, you know, super rattled by, you know, this

(01:23:52):
whole saga. Like I just, I, I think it's the
free market at work. And I also think, you know, kind
of like Joe Platt said, we don'tnecessarily know all the full
details of everything, everything that transpired in
the situation or why specifically Nico wanted to opt
out at this particular time. So I, I know I don't have too
much judgement on that part of it.
But you know, I mean, it's just part of the, it's part of the,

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it's part of life. Like you, you, you move jobs
because you think you might get a better deal.
Maybe it doesn't work out. And that's just how, that's just
how life goes. So I'm, I'm very much, you know,
kind of a pragmatist when it comes to stuff, to stuff.
Yeah. And I think when we talk about
pragmatic approaches, if I'm in a good situation and I'm making

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good money, I'm going to have anoffer in my hand before I step
out on that. That's a pragmatic decision.
And with as much tampering is already going on, if if you and
your pops in particular weren't pushing things without getting
something in writing or getting getting some sort of, you know,

(01:24:56):
handshake deal before you start rattling cages like that, you
put yourself in a bad situation.Because now you've got this,
this kid gloves type of reputation where it's like, all
right, is this tainted goods? Is this tainted goods?
Like, you know, he pushed his way out of this.

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Is this going to be our fate too?
Like you, I think the, the biggest problem with what he did
and how he did it was that he didn't have a plan, a long term
plan when when he started rattling the cages and I, you
know, ultimately that landed himat UCLAA job that Chip Kelly

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said a coordinator, program coordinator role with the
Raiders was was better than being the head coach at UCLA.
So. Well, Ohio State first.
Well, Ohio State first, but yeah.
Ohio State first, Yeah, he's with the rated now.
To me, it's all about what he thought he had leverage because

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he said there it's almost in thespring practice.
I want $2,000,000 more. Whether they were shopping him
or not, he went to them. You're going to give me $4
million or Jim real quick, No, SEC cannot transfer with an SEC.
That is a rule in their bylaws. They cannot transfer with them.

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That's why he went to UCLA. But to the point goes, he over
leveraged himself. He thought they ain't gonna,
they ain't gonna fucking let me go.
We went to the playoffs last year.
We were a good team last year and basically EIPL said Home
slice. I've been coaching quarterbacks
for about 15 years now. All of my get usually play

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pretty damn good. You're not worth the extra
$2,000,000 and he screwed himself out of money and he's
probably screwed himself to Tally's point tally.
I looked it up. The first round draft pick Cam
Ward's going to effectively get $43,000,000 with about 30 of it
guaranteed. That's the point Tallies makes

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right there. 2,000,000 is nothing compared to 42.
I'd love $2,000,000 right now inthe tally's point.
But forty $344,000,000, that's athat is a that is generational
type of where literally it's notjust your kids, it's your kids,
kids that can keep living off that, living good, having a

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great life. So to me, he just tried to play
the game and they would just like screw you mood.
And that's the other issue with the college kids.
To me, there's probably only about 5 or 6 players, like 5 or
6 players. Seriously, that can say I want
an extra $1,000,000 right now orI'm leaving and schools are

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going to give it to them so I can and.
Then another, yeah, another thing too.
When you talk about, you know, NRL, 'cause I'm, I'm, I'm on,
I'm like, I don't want to have straddling the fence, but like
I, I understand where it comes from from the organization
standpoint. But also like I'm with Shelton,
like I know these young men deserve to get certain things

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and it's their right to choose what they want to do.
But I'm also looking at it from like my son, you know, now my
son ain't going to get no fucking NIL like that.
He ain't going to get nothing ifhe'll start hitting the ball.
But what I'm saying is like thinking about a kid or young

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man getting $2,000,000, right? Sounds like a lot of money,
right? They're like, oh, that's a lot
of money. They don't deserve it or they do
deserve it. Like do you know how many
peoples riding on that 2 million?
Like me, if I got 2,000,000 right now, I'm worried about
four people. I got two kids and my wife.
I'm worried about four people. I can make some stuff shake with
2 million. These kids have whole families

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depending on them to get them places and move them across the
country and bring their little brothers with them.
So that 2 million between 20 people or however many people,
it's not going very far because Mama want to call, Daddy want to
call. We got to move because they need
to go to my games and we live ina, they live across the country,
so got to buy them a house over here.

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Like it's not the lottery, man. Like they're not winning the
lottery. And I think that they just get
caught up in the hype right then.
And I just hope they look at things different.
Like my goat didn't ever play the NFL.
Jerrod Evans never made it to the NFLI.
Know that there's politics in football.
So if Jerrod didn't make it, I feel like a coach can put a word

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in and you won't make it no matter what your talent is.
So again, I just won't these families and these young men to
start thinking about it from a business standpoint more than
they are thinking about it just from a money standpoint.
So yeah, I hope he didn't screw himself out of money because I

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think the kids talented, you know, I think he's he's he's I
think he's got something, you know, I think he can, you know,
who knows how high he can go? But I do know that once you
start, it's a good old boy society man.
When you start playing around inthat and they'll in the weeds,
you know, somebody might get themore out.
So we'll see. There you go.
All right, well, Speaking of that, and because it kind of

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goes into a good segue into the last thing we're going to talk
about tonight, the NFL draft is tomorrow night.
I know all well, Sheldon, I'm not sure if you've got a game
tomorrow, but I will be stuck tothe TV probably like, well,
Tally, you get to stay the the least because Tally's team is
picking first. I'm my team's picking 11,

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Reinstein's picking 15 and Shelton's way back at like 30.
But I wanted to just go through y'all and just hear what you
want your team to do. And we're going to do it in
order. So Tally with the first pick in
the NFL 2025 NFL Draft. The Tennessee Titans, I mean.
Cam Ward, They taking Cam Ward? I mean, we ain't hit on a

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quarterback in I think since like 1997 or something like
that. I don't know, like we've been
not good at drafting quarterbacks, but this is going
to change this year. I like Cam Ward a lot.
I think that that's the obvious pick.
The only other person I thought they would have picked right
there would be the generational talent, Travis Harner.

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But that's not what our team really needs right now.
So I'm thinking, well, I'm knowing that we going for Cam
Ward. So I'm just hoping that we got
the line to block for him because getting everybody's
going to judge their young quarterbacks by what Jayden
Daniels did, right? True.
No like that. That's what you want your

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quarterback to come in and do. Does he do that?
I don't know. You know I don't, I don't think
so. But if he can do a step better
than we did last year, so we ain't got the first pick the
year after, I'll be OK with that.
I hear you by the way, y'all want to chat?
I know Josh put in there Denver drafting to drafting Genetti.
If you got what you think your team should do, say it.

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I'm going to go next. I'm a 49ers fan.
If y'all don't know and everybody thinks like, oh, y'all
need a lot of different stuff and it's like, no, our defense
was asked last year, Rockford isgoing to get paid probably
somewhere north of $300 million very, very soon.
He is. And everybody's like he was

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asked, y'all couldn't win last year.
It won't because of him. He was like 6 best quarterback
in the league. Iuke was hurt, McCaffrey was
hurt. He still played decent.
But for us, I'd like to see U.S.trade back.
But the, the, the truth is, if you ask me right now who we take
or who I want us to take, I'm going to take kid out of Ole
Miss. The D tackle, Walter Nolan, he's

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like 6-3. He's like 300 lbs.
He is a hell of a run stopper. He's got some pass rush moves on
the inside and we need to build that part.
Brian, you're next on the clock.You know what I mean?
Everything I'm seeing so far, they've got the Colts really
want to get a tight end. I definitely feel it's a

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position in need. And lo and behold, who's
probably going to be there? Tyler Warren, at least finest.
At least finest. So I, I, I think that's going to
be the pick. I think just as a, as a, as a
Richmond guy, as a, as a Mechanicsville, as a, as a
Hanover resident, that that would be a pretty cool pick for

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the Colts. If, if we end up not going that
route or he's not available, I think Shamar Stewart, the edge
from Texas A&M would probably bewhere I'd go if, if Ty Warren's
not available there. Shelton.
It's been a long time coming since you had a wait.

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Sean's going to have to wait up for the first time in how many
years for the draft. Well, what are you?
What's, what's your, what's yourcommanders going to do?
Yeah, they'll probably be, they'll probably be defense
focus because that's the way it,you know, they got improved the
most. I think probably edge and corner
will be the biggest priorities. Maybe wide receiver.
I've seen a couple of mock drafts have a second wide

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receiver in the first round. But as far as it pertains to the
Hokies, we do have a need for a more explosive running back.
And I know that we, we had some workouts with, with, with
Bashall Tooten. So it's possible they could go
out your tune maybe in kind of amid round pick 'cause I think it
probably slotted, you know, third or fourth round.
So it'd be, it'd be great if that worked out 'cause it's it
fills A-Team need, but I think it'll be probably more of a a

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defensive minded draft for for the commanders.
All right, no player in particular right there.
Let me see there. I know there was what was?
His name? What's cool I've done.
I've only done 600 mocks in the last month.
Yeah, there was a UCLA defensiveend.

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Linebacker end, end. Yeah, he's flying out the boards
too, because he went from like mid second, third round to like
he might sneak into the back endof the first round.
Yeah, who knows? That's true.
That's true. That's true.
They're going to be getting Malachi Starks is who they're

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going to get I How many Hokies are we all thinking 55 but.
Who's the who's the I got? I got Peebles APR lane tootin
strong. Is that that the five peoples?
Tootin, APR Lane, Strong and Peebles.
Yeah. Felton might slip in late

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seventh round just because 6-4, but I think 5 that's.
What? She said.
Boom, All right, I like this one.
I'm I'm all started with myself.If our teams have to take one
Hokie, who would I want it to be?
I need it to be Anita's peoples.I need a three tech that can go
eat because Nolan can play the one tech I want to me as peoples

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and I think of me as peoples will be the first one off the
board. That's my prediction.
I think in these people's going to be the first one off the
board about y'all. You got a feeling?
Tally, tally smiling. Tally 1 hokey when?
If you say Tennessee, draft thatman.
We are getting Cam Ward. Like I said, it's going to be a

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young quarterback and we need wide receivers because Burke's
can't stay healthy. Like he going to get hurt again
this year and I wishing that on him.
It just happens. Give me Jay Lane, man.
I think Jay Lane's going. I think he's going to play in
the league for a long time. Not saying he's going to be
super, you know, dominant, but he's a pro man.
He just does his job. And I think that if we could

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somehow get Jay Lane, I would definitely have on his jersey.
It'd be a lot bigger than the 1 he wears because he had a very
big guy. But I would get his jersey and
be wearing it. So give me give me Lane, man.
Of course I love Tooting, but you know, Sheldon already took
him. So we'll say Jay Lane.
Hey, real quick here, there was somebody, I can't remember who I
was listening to. I've listened to a ton of draft

(01:37:08):
podcast this year. Unlike normal, somebody said
they think Jay Lane is the best punt returner in this draft
straight up. Which means, again, if he can do
anything on the wide receiver, he's getting it.
Shelton, how about you? Yeah, I mean, I just think I
just think dude would make the most logical sense based on the

(01:37:29):
team needs. Obviously, you know, you, you
could go Peebles. I I don't think it makes sense
based on where they're drafting,but I I think tune would give
them a really dynamic edge, especially with all the the
skeleton I've got the threat of JD running.
I think that'd be a really awesome combination to watch.
Very nice, Brian. I mean, I could see, I know

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we're looking at edge and cornerback probably somewhere
between rounds 1 to 4, right. So if we don't get an edge in
the first round, if we, if we'reable to get a tight end, I think
we, you know, we, we could be ina, in a spot where APR might
make some sense. So I I would like to see APR.

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All righty got Jim on here. You and Jim going to be fighting
for him in the fifth round. So yeah, And that's tomorrow
night. And again, it's always cool to
see. I felt like the last few years
we just hadn't had anybody get drafted.
So anything else, y'all? Anybody else jump in the portal

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while you've been sitting here for the last little while?
Not that we know of. Not that we know of.
It'll all be revealed tomorrow. Well, with that being said,
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