Boundaryless Conversations Podcast

Boundaryless Conversations Podcast

Boundaryless Conversations Podcast is an ongoing exploration of the future of Platforms & Ecosystems. Here we explore new perspectives about how we organise at scale in a rapidly changing world. From Boundaryless SRL Hosted by Simone Cicero

Episodes

October 5, 2026 • 52 mins

What happens when organisations make their rules of the road explicit - and people gain more room to act because of it?

In this episode, Simone Cicero, co-founder of Boundaryless, joins Clay Parker Jones, Head of Org Design & Development at Airbnb, co-founder of the employee-owned consultancy August and author of Hidden Patterns: A Playbook for More Human Workplaces, to explore why structure and agency grow together.

They discuss...

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What happens when anyone can build software - and the people closest to the work start designing their own tools?

Organisational designer and co-founder of Boundaryless, Lisa Gansky joins independent technologist and researcher Fabien Girardin to explore the rise of personal software: AI-enabled tools created by individuals to solve their own problems, reshape their workflows, and challenge long-held assumptions about how organisati...

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One of the world's leading voices on long-range strategic thinking, Nikolaus Lang, joins us to unpack what it truly takes to prepare organisations for a world of deep uncertainty.

Managing Director and Senior Partner at Boston Consulting Group and Global Leader of the BCG Henderson Institute, Nikolaus is one of the lead authors of Beyond Tomorrow: Four Scenarios for the World of 2050 - a landmark work that combines qualitative scena...

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Alexey Krivitsky, organisational consultant, agile pioneer, and co-creator of the Org Topologies methodology, joins us to explore why some organisations remain adaptable while others become trapped in layers of local optimisation, dependencies, and internal complexity.

Drawing on insights from his new book 10x Organisations, Alexey challenges many of the assumptions behind organisational design practices, from domain ownership and p...

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One of the world’s leading voices challenging command-and-control management, internationally recognised management thinker and founder of the BetaCodex Network, Niels Pflaeging joins us to explore how organisations can organise for complexity through decentralisation, small teams, and value creation at the periphery.

Drawing on his earlier work on “org physics”, Niels explains why organisations are shaped by three...

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What happens when coding is no longer the bottleneck in software development?

In this episode, Alberto Brandolini - creator of EventStorming and pioneer in domain-driven design - joins software engineer and Kandddinsky founder Marco Heimeshoff to explore how AI is transforming the practice of building software, and what remains fundamentally human in the process.

Together, they reflect on the growing importance of collaborative model...

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Milan Guenther and Annika Klyver, seasoned practitioners working at the intersection of enterprise architecture, enterprise design, and organisational transformation, join this episode to explore how organisations can better describe, design, and ultimately execute how they create value in a complex AI-enabled world.

Drawing on more than a decade of experience, they reflect on the evolution from traditional enterprise architecture t...

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What happens when AI dramatically lowers the cost of coordination inside organisations?

In this episode, Andrea Gioia, Partner and CTO at Quantyca and author of Managing Data as a Product, explores how AI and new information architectures may transform the way organisations are designed and managed.

Breaking down Jack Dorsey’s recent article on the visions of AI-enabled, modular companies, the conversation looks at why traditio...

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Federico Marchesi, supply chain strategist and author of the Hacking Supply Chains newsletter, joins us to explore how disruptions, variability, and global constraints are not anomalies, but structural conditions that organisations must design their supply chains for. Drawing on his experience across global companies like Haier, Federico reflects on a key shift in how we should understand supply networks today: “In reality, w...

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A world-renowned strategist and author, one of the pioneers of platform thinking, John Hagel, joins us on this episode.
He starts the episode by sharing something profound: “I was taught to believe strategy is everything for winning. Over the years, I’ve come to realise it’s less about strategy and more about psychology.”
He also discusses how fear currently largely shapes decision-making, and why rega...

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Kevin Slavin - designer and entrepreneur working across technology, biology, and culture joins us on this episode to reflect on what it means to design within living, interconnected systems, and how technology moves forward not just through invention, but through the social and cultural conditions that allow ideas to take root in the world.
Known for his article ‘Design as Participation’, he explores how design chang...

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The name behind one of the world’s largest and most cited self-managed organisations, Jos De Blok, joins us to deep dive into what it truly takes to build complexity-aware systems without bureaucracy.
Founder and CEO of Buurtzorg, the Dutch neighbourhood nursing organisation, Jos has built a global reference point for community-based healthcare and self-managed organisations.
In this conversation, we explore the philoso...

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What do we think about Agile beyond frameworks - and how organisations actually learn, adapt, and continuously improve?

Håkan Forss, a lean and agile coach and speaker who has become legendary for his iconic Lego figures-based presentations, joins us to unpack the hidden purpose of Agile and why its true power lies not in methods but in how organisations design for flow and fast customer feedback.

Speaking on concepts like lean think...

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One of the leading voices in transition design for sustainability and societal change, Cameron Tonkinwise, Professor of Design Studies at the University of Technology Sydney, joins us for a deep conversation on what design must become in an era of systemic collapse.
In this episode, he speaks on why the logic that drives most businesses - efficiency, growth, and value capture- is often fundamentally at odds with what people actu...

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Gregor Hohpe - one of the world’s leading voices in enterprise architecture and platform thinking, and author of ‘The Software Architect Elevator’, ‘Enterprise Integration Patterns’ and ‘Platform Strategy’- joins us to dive into how enterprise architecture is about navigating the tradeoffs needed to enable future optionality in the organization.
He reframes the architecture problem from ...

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What happens when work no longer guarantees reward and time itself feels unanchored?

In this episode, Jasmine Bina - brand strategist, cultural futurist, and CEO of Concept Bureau - joins us to explore how meaning, culture, and value creation are being reshaped in societies and affecting our organisations.

Drawing on her latest work, Age of Potency, Jasmine unpacks how cultural resets have now created “vacuums” that are b...

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Dave Gray, acclaimed author and designer, joins us in this episode to explore how organisations can navigate profound technological and societal shifts by thinking outside their traditional theories.
With his decades of helping organisations rethink their value architectures, and his work on liminal thinking and visual frameworks, he reflects on how AI, and other fast-moving cultural changes are reshaping the very assumptions bu...

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Lisa Gill - a coach, facilitator, and host of the acclaimed Leadermorphosis podcast - joins us to explore the evolving world of self-managing organisations.
Drawing on over a decade of experience and examples from companies like Buurtzorg and her own work at TUFF Leadership, Lisa speaks about what makes radically decentralised organisations work: dynamic hierarchies, enabling structures, and accountability without coercion.
D...

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Spencer Graham and Nicholas Naraghi, co-founders of Hats Protocol, pioneering the design and experimentation of decentralised, programmable organisations, join us in this episode to explore how these new forms of collaboration can enable new ways to organise, govern, and create value collectively.
They discuss the future of organisational design, including how AI agents can take on roles, how frameworks and reusable templates ac...

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A thought leader and pioneer in platforms and ecosystems, partner at Speed Invest and an instructor at Reforge, Sameer Singh joins us on this episode to reintroduce the world of platforms, challenge the idea of AI as a platform shift, and talk about what makes products truly memorable in a market over-proliferated with choices. He helps us “Separate signals from the noise,” and shares his practical insights into what ma...

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