Bourbon and Rum Podcast
The Bourbon and Rum Podcast is a bipartisan political discussion between two brothers from opposite sides of the aisle. One liberal, one conservative, they tackle today’s most important issues through thoughtful conversation and civil discourse. Each episode features a respectful exchange of ideas as they examine current events, policy debates, and cultural topics with humor, curiosity, and mutual respect. No shouting. No talking points. Just two brothers having a real conversation.
Episodes
Duration: 54.32 | Recorded on January 19, 2025
S2E4 – In this episode, the brothers dive into a data-driven discussion about how to measure presidential success. Instead of relying on political spin or folklore, they explore a wide range of metrics, from traditional economic indicators like GDP, inflation (CPI and PPI), and unemployment rates, to less conventional measures like labor participation rates, manufacturing jobs, internat...
Duration: 1:11:06 | Recorded on April 18, 2026
S3E13 – Trump’s Iran strategy, Strait of Hormuz tensions, and the Texas Ibogaine Initiative take center stage, alongside debates on NATO, U.S. foreign policy, Marco Rubio, and the political fallout surrounding figures like Eric Swalwell.
Featured Spirits
Old Kirk Review - Is this Willett Purple Top, only cheaper ?! (YouTube)
Trader Joe’s Fresh Squeezed Limeade
Show Notes
/ Ira...
Duration: 56:20 | Recorded on April 8, 2026
S3E12 – Kent and Kyle debate U.S. strikes on Iran, Donald Trump’s “madman theory” rhetoric, Tucker Carlson and MAGA backlash, NATO skepticism, and whether a $1.5 trillion defense budget is sustainable—plus Bacardi dark rum and Brugal.
Featured Spirits
Show Notes
/ U.S. Strikes on Iran and Military Effectiveness: Kent and Kyle open with reactions to the...
Duration: 53:13 | Recorded on March 28, 2026
S3E11 – Kent and Kyle connect airline loyalty programs, political tribalism, and the escalating Iran conflict, discussing U.S. strikes on Iranian leadership, drone warfare threats, F-35 costs, and how incentives inside the defense budget shape modern military strategy.
Featured Spirits
Show Notes
/ Airline Status, Loyalty Programs, and Manufactured Id...
Duration: 47:46 | Recorded on March 15, 2026
S3E10 - A wide-ranging discussion on modern geopolitical conflict, energy markets, and global humanitarian crises, examining how drone warfare, oil commoditization, and systemic instability are reshaping global power dynamics and public awareness.
Featured Spirits
Show Notes
/ Modern Warfare & Drone Disruption: The brothers explore how low-cost drone technology is reshap...
Duration: 46:46 | Recorded on March 8, 2026
S3E9 – Kent and Kyle examine the opening phase of the Iran conflict, debating whether targeted strikes against Iranian leadership can realistically achieve regime change. The discussion expands to political polarization, controversies surrounding the Epstein files, the Texas Senate race, and the strategic implications of low-cost drone warfare.
Featured Spirits
Bourbon: W.L. Weller Specia...
Duration: 56:40 | Recorded on February 28, 2026
S3E8 – Today the hosts look into the fallout of the strikes in Iran and the hunt for sane alternatives in a power vacuum, a search that, as they discuss later, hits much closer to home when they look at upcoming elections.
Featured Spirits
Show Notes
/ Strike on Iran & Leadership Decapitation Strategy: Kent and Kyle open with analysis of the r...
Duration: 55:29 | Recorded on February 21, 2026
S3E7 – A deep dive into the Supreme Court’s ruling limiting presidential tariff powers, the future of U.S. trade policy, executive authority, and the political firestorm surrounding the Epstein files.
Featured Spirits
Show Notes
/ Supreme Court Blocks Use of Emergency Powers for Tariffs: Kent and Kyle open with analysis of the Supreme C...
Duration: 46:43 | Recorded on February 15, 2026
S3E6 – A wide-ranging discussion on Americanization, Saudi Arabia’s transformation, democratic peace theory, and whether U.S. foreign policy prioritizes human rights or strategic self-interest.
Featured Spirits
Ron Carúpano (Venezuela)
Show Notes
/ Saudi Arabia in Transition: Kyle reflects on recent travel to Riyadh and contrasts Saudi Arabia’s rapid infrastru...
Duration: 46:18 | Recorded on February 1, 2026
S3E5 – A wide-ranging discussion on the release of millions of Epstein-related court documents, institutional failure and elite accountability, Federal Reserve leadership and interest rates, AI’s impact on work and education, and the evolving politics of immigration enforcement.
Featured Spirits
Bourbon: Stagg Jr
Rum: Santa Teresa 1796
Show Notes
/ The Epstein Document Release...
Duration: 56:22 | Recorded on January 25, 2026
S3E4 – A measured, in-depth conversation on immigration enforcement, protest, and political trust, centered on the fatal ICE-related shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis.
Featured Spirits
Elmer T. Lee Single Barrel Bourbon
Show Notes
/ The Minneapolis Shooting: Both hosts reflect on their initial reactions to early media reports, including claims that th...
Duration: 45:08 | Recorded on January 18, 2026
S3E3 – A difficult discussion on U.S. immigration enforcement, political rhetoric, and institutional trust, using recent ICE activity in Minnesota and Trump-era communication strategies as a lens for examining polarization, governance, and civil society.
Featured Spirits
Old Forester Single Barrel Barrel Strength Bourbon
Show Notes
/ Greenland, Geopolitics, and Presidential Style...
Duration: 54:42 | Recorded on December 27, 2025
S3E2 – A candid conversation on free speech, censorship, political power, and media accountability, sparked by EU digital speech laws and U.S. travel bans, and expanding into Trump, media lawsuits, and the rise of politics as brand warfare.
Featured Spirits
Show Notes
/ EU Digital Services Act and U.S. Travel Bans: The episode’s core topic begins with an a...
Duration: 41:47 | Recorded on January 4, 2026
S3E1 – U.S. intervention in Venezuela, the arrest of Nicolás Maduro, and the strategic, legal, and geopolitical implications of modern “surgical” foreign policy actions.
Featured Spirits
Rare Character Single Barrel American Light Whiskey
No rum, only lemonade
Show Notes
/ Invasion or Law Enforcement Action? Framing the Maduro Arrest: Kent and Kyle debate how to properly characterize the U.S....
Duration: 50:54 | Recorded on December 19, 2025
S2E39 – Kent and Kyle react to the long-awaited release of the Epstein files, shifting to a deeper debate on government transparency and their shared mistrust of the political establishment. Their conversation takes a turn, a deep dive into immigration policy that challenges partisan narratives by examining employer responsibility, economic incentives, and personal hypocrisy.
Featured S...
Duration 46:46 | Recorded on December 14, 2025
S2E38 – A year-end holiday episode where Kent and Kyle reflect on political polarization, social media’s influence, and practical strategies for surviving, and improving, difficult political conversations with family during the holidays.
Featured Spirits
Show Notes
/ Holiday Politics Feel Worse Than Ever: Kent and Kyle reflect on how holiday ...
Duration: 46:52 | Recorded on December 10, 2025
S2E37 – A wide-ranging conversation over bourbon and rum examining border security, social media vetting, immigration economics, and how freedom, security, and government overreach collide in modern travel and immigration policy.
Featured Spirits
Benchmark Foolproof Bourbon
Barbados-style rum cocktail (made with Dominican Republic rum)
Show Notes
/ Social Media Vetting and Privacy Creep...
Duration: 31:08 | Recorded on November 29, 2025
S2E36 – In this episode, Kent and Kyle open with their featured spirits before diving into a thoughtful conversation about their father’s personal history, his Vietnam experience, political choices, and the weight of war across generations. The discussion expands into modern military conflicts, the treatment of veterans, geopolitical complexity, and concludes with an unexpected (and en...
Duration: 46.18 | Recorded on November 22, 2025
Note on Schedule: Happy Thanksgiving! We're releasing this episode on Wednesday so you can start the long weekend right. We'll be back on our regular Thursday schedule next week.
S2E35 – Kent and Kyle explore cultural identity, shifting political landscapes, and the rapidly evolving public discourse around UFOs and government disclosure. Thought-provoking, humorous, and deeply c...
Duration: 38:51 | Recorded on November 14, 2025
Programming Note: We usually release episodes weekly, but with this week’s planned vote on releasing the Epstein files, the brothers wanted to weigh in right away. Our next regular episode will follow the usual schedule.
S2E33 – Kent and Kyle dig into the newest trickle of releases from the Epstein files and wrestle with the unsettling ambiguity, political tension, and unanswered questi...
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