August 15, 2024 • 31 mins
Welcome to Bourbon with the boys, a production of B-Team Promotions. In this episode, we’re diving into the world of Von Payne Black whiskey, a unique and flavorful experience crafted by Steve Allen, the owner and operator of Von Payne Spirits in Clearwater, Florida. Crafting an Experience Von Payne Black whiskey is not just a …
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The following is a production of b team
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Welcome to Bourbon with the boys. Damn it,
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Jim. I thought you'd fix that. We're never
gonna fix that. I can't I can't wait
till we get a camera. Yeah.
Just as I get into it. Just as
I'm I'm feeling it. Just as I'm right
there in the crew.
It's like a punch in the weapon.
Just done.
Just done. We get a camera, and everybody
can see us dancing and just having a
good time, and then all of a sudden,
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skip just boom.
Jim, you had one job. I know. Never
ever get rid of the skip. I never
get to stay. It's iconic now. I'm thinking
it's just stay. Yeah. Well, this is a
product of B Team promoters. I guess,
when good enough is just enough.
A subsidiary of the B Team Media Group.
Right.
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Jesus.
He's a big fan of church, by the
way.
He is. What do we got today, Bobby?
Well, today, we're doing a little,
Von Payne black.
Von Payne black. Yeah. Now well, one, I
gotta say, first of all, it's absolutely awesome,
the gargoyle
pour spout instead of a stopper. Instead of
a naughty. Although, I I I did Naughty.
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Naughty. Naughty. Invoke the name of both lords
based on which side of the house you're
on,
trying to get the stoppers out so that
we could use it and everything.
But, but, anyway, it's there. But, you know,
I I thought it was funny. I was
I was doing a lot of reading
and and trying to understand, you know, what
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is Von Payne? What's Von Payne Black about?
Where is it? And everything.
And, you know, the funny thing about it
is it it it just isn't any whiskey.
Right? Okay. It it's literally
a labor of of love from Von Payne
spirits. And it it's, Steve Allen, the, owner
operator,
from Clearwater,
Florida
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Oh. Is is the one that set out
to make it. And and he said it's
not just about making a drink, it's about
crafting
an experience.
Right? So he he set out to create
a whiskey that would bring friends together,
kinda spice up their adventures,
and it was inspired by his life in
the French culture
as
well as, kind of just a faithful day
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out boating with his daughters. Did you say
French culture? Yeah. French culture. Oh, French. Not
French. French. French. Okay. F r I n
g e. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Now, picture so
picture this. Alright?
Steve's kind of a designated boat driver. Okay.
He's watching,
in in horror
as his daughters and their friends
are just
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chugging vodka
straight from the bottle. Gross. Just their faces
so you know, faces one of the I'm
sorry. Yeah. Go ahead. Their face is contorting
because they hated it. Yeah. Yeah. That's what
you have to do with it. It always
irritates me about when you see people on
TV and they go, oh, I'm drinking, and
they take a bottle of warm vodka and
pour it in a glass and just start
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drinking. Nobody does that to me. I can
tell you stories too. Alcoholics do. Yeah. No.
I mean, you can tell you stories too.
Maybe on a whim, but you're not doing
that, especially by yourself.
If you drink warm vodka around me, I'm
gonna charge trying to get you in a
program. I got I got stories to tell.
Oh my god. Which is kinda which is
kinda where Steve was going. Right? Because so
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at some point, he just looks at his
daughters and he goes,
why? Yeah. He's just totally baffled, like Exactly.
Why can't you do anything different?
And their response was, well well, we don't
wanna get bloated.
Because he's like, why not why not a
why not a mixed drink? Why not something
like that? Right. Well, we don't wanna get
bloated. Yeah. Okay. Is what they answer back.
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And, they said, and and fireball, well, that's
just gonna make us sick.
And tequila, well, it's awful or as I
like to say, piss of Satan.
You know, tequila is awful, and we don't
like Jaeger.
And so he just started thinking. He said,
you know, there's there's a gap in the
market here.
Right? There's there's there's a gap in the
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market for liquor that can be fun,
flavorful,
and edgy.
And Honestly, he said honestly, he said Okay.
Just like these young ladies. Okay. So I
know. I'm I this is Bourbon with the
Boys, and we're gonna talk about a a
a a whiskey inspired by
College by age. Girls. With chicks, man. But
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so so I if any of you complain,
just remember.
But now he said, it's it's something that
should be edgy. It should be something just
like these young ladies that are that are
tattooed, that are edgy, that are strong, independent
women,
you know, but still
are still very much ladies. Right? Something something
that can be fun, something is there. So,
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you know, he set out and he said,
I gotta do something. Now like I said,
he's he's been in the French culture. Right?
He he's he's a self proclaimed nerd from
high school. He was a punk club bouncer.
He was an extreme sports enthusiast at one
point, and he just wanted to
something that resonated with this eclectic past that
he had. Okay. Right? And sort of the
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vibrant present that his daughters were presenting to
him,
and that's where he found
Blackcurrant.
Yes. So why this is called Von Payne
Black is because of the blackcurrant,
which is a it's a tart,
sweet,
kinda
rebellious fruit that actually was illegal to grow
in the US for a time. Okay. Right?
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So there you go. I mean, he's
back on the fringe. Grape, but it's not
really a grape. Right.
So he took a lot of time experimenting.
He, you know, you gotta love him because
he used his his kids and his
friends as getting things. Yes. So Try this.
Oh, you do need to die or throw
it off. To go out of the boat
today. Yeah. And and I got some stuff
for you guys to drink. Could be
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could be great, could be awful, don't know.
Could even be Yeah. We'll come back, though,
I promise.
Yeah. Yeah. But then Fantastic. Finally, he got
down to to this whiskey. Right? It's kind
of this, deep red. It tastes fantastic
and just really makes you go, wow,
with every every sip is what he said.
Now Sound bite. He really didn't stop there.
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He wanted he wanted the packaging to kind
of free the inner spirit. Right? Yes. So
he kinda went with this darkier
darker, sexier side here. So that's that's why
we have what we have. We have the
gargoyles,
the whiskey coming out of the mouth of
the winged gargoyles
because that's what it is. It's not really
a stopper. It's a pour spout. Right? Yep.
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Just unafraid of the world.
He apparently went through Wouldn't really call that
sexy. I don't know that's I don't know
how sexy I mean, if you think if
you think about are sexy. Well, if you
think if you think about who he was
going for. Right? He was going for these
these edgy kinda counterculture
ladies. Right? The sexy, the, you know The
punk girls?
Tattoos and all that stuff. Yeah. We've all
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we've all looked at them and gone. Gothy.
Oof. I like tattoos all of a sudden.
Yeah.
Different story about that. We'll talk about that
when we're not recording an episode. Yeah. Called
Mythicality. Everything's on record.
Right. Exactly.
So he went through a ton of 3
d proto prototypes,
that he 3 d printed out. So, apparently,
Chip is a good friend of his.
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And so so that's where he kinda came
up with the, with the current gargoyle tie
top right there. So,
you know, now if you if anybody ever
says, oh, Von Payne Black, what's what's up
with that?
Now you've you've got the story, you know,
that's the brainchild of Steve Allen, the man
who turned a a boating trip epiphany into
a whiskey
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that's, bold and adventurous,
for its drinkers.
And, he says it's the pleasure
of pain.
Yes.
So just remember, life's too short
for boring booze. I'm
This is true. Yeah. This guy is all
of a sudden my hero. Yeah. There you
go. Now I've lost my state of Clearwater,
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Florida.
He's not far. How does that make you
feel? My standard, does he make anything else?
I have never even actually looked this up
because I've had this before.
Von Von Payne spirits. You know, I I
thought I had that up. I think I
accidentally closed out that, that tab real quick.
So And if he doesn't, this is pretty
new relatively speaking. It's fairly it's fairly new.
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Von Von Payne Spirits,
LLC,
is the company. Let's see if I can
pull it up. Now I'm now I'm trying
yes, I am of legal age.
Yes. No, really. So really when I when
I go to Von Payne Spirits, like,
all there's Von Payne Black,
Reserve, and then there's a store locator.
Okay. Yep. So 2.
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Yeah. Yeah. So,
so oh, libations. Let's see what he's got.
It only takes 1. Libations.
Well, it says libations. Featured Whiskey Limations.
No. It's it's all about, mixed cocktails that
you can make,
with with Von Payne. So Von Payne is,
this is pretty much their this is what
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they make. This is what we make. So
so question for you guys that are bourbon
drinkers and whiskey drinkers and all that stuff.
When you Let me let's see. How how
can I help you? You bet.
Wait. Who's that? Who spoke? Who spoke?
When you come across something that is promoted
or can be promoted
as a mixer for for different drinks, how
do you look at that? Because,
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you know, you you you you see some
of these these bourbons and stuff like that
and it's all about individually drinking them, you
know, with either Sure. Ice or not not
ice. So
how do you how do you look at
that? I I think Either one of you
can answer. I I think it's an evolution
of the marketplace. Yeah. If you wanna know
the truth, I I think
as bourbon is becoming more mainstream, more in
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culture, more
out there,
you know, it's it's kinda
bourbon lost its way in the seventies because
vodka came out and vodka really killed bourbon
in the seventies because what vodka started marketing
heavily
is that it was lighter, it was pure,
it was cleaner,
right, and that you could make all these
drinks with it where where bourbon was this
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is a man's drink. This is what it
is. This is and vodka hit it hit
the ladies
hard. Yeah. Right? And, hey, it's a it's
a ladies' drink. It's the lighter side. It's
the easier thing. It's the so I think,
you know, having learned from that
as bourbons turned up over the last 10
years back to mainstream,
it's now going, hey, wait, there's a lot
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of history behind bourbon. Let's talk about it.
There's a lot of ways
to bring bourbon and whiskey
to the market. So I think when we
when we hear about some of these whiskeys
like this, when we hear about some of
these bourbons
and they're trying to pull them back in,
I think that's probably what they should have
done in the seventies. Well, and because there's
a lot of cool stories and cool stuff.
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Yeah. I would agree because there's a lot
of good there's a lot of good
drinks out there that are mixed with bourbon
and whiskeys and stuff like that. But you
but you hear about the vodka ones. Yeah.
And let's be honest, when you're talking about
mixing bourbon, especially if you're talking about a
40, 50, $60 bottle of bourbon,
You're not doing that in a bar. Right.
You're doing that at home. So I might
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make this at home and I'm like, hey,
I'm gonna make a,
I mean, old I'll say old fashioned for
lack of
thought of what what else because I love
them. I'll make an old fashioned out of
a,
you know, $50, $60 bottle of bourbon sometimes.
Okay. Because I'm not
watering it down like I would in a
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bar. Right. I do that in a bar.
It's like, here's $50 and they're putting all
this other crap in it. Whereas, if I'm
doing it, I'm putting a little sugar in
it, a little bit of bitters, and an
ice cube. Yeah. Yeah. And that's something to
make it a little refreshing or whatever. And,
you know, it it's funny since you asked
that. I I don't know. Well, when we
hit break,
I'll look real quick and and see if
I do.
There's actually a,
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one of the first,
cocktails that he talks about here, he calls
a pain in the ass
and it's a
it's a it's using Von Payne to make
a mule.
Okay. So it's 2 ounces of Von Payne
black, 4 ounces ginger beer, and then a
half ounce of key lime juice. I think
key lime juice is the only thing I
might not have. Yeah. So I'm gonna go
look and see if I got at least
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some limes. If that's the case, we might,
we we might try to, let's try and
taste it, then then let's make ourselves a
a pain in the ass. Okay. I'd finally
like to know what it's like to be
Tom.
Yeah. That's good. Good point. I am. Yeah.
I'll own that.
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It's always always a joy to skip that
beat.
I think it's I dance to the treble.
It's it's part it's part of the persona.
It you know, my OCD is just so
so loving and enjoyable. You'll be okay. Get
over it. You'll be okay.
Oh, goodness.
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Alright. So, so we've got the Von Payne,
black. It's a it's a blended whiskey now.
So it's a little
a little different than what we normally do.
It's definitely not a bourbon,
but it is a blend of whiskey.
Guys, go ahead. Don't tell me you don't
smell like grape.
I don't smell
anything. Okay, Tom. We're gonna have to rotor
root your nose or something. Something's different. I
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smell I smell nothing but the carat. Yeah.
I know. That's right. That's exactly what I
had done, and I smelled nothing. I'm I'm
pretty sure if somebody just handed handed this
to me, I would think it was, Grappa.
That's fantastic.
Well, Tom's already given his feedback. Must be
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week 3. There's no bite. This is
this is 90 proof,
and it really has no bite. But it
is it's not too sweet for me. That
is sweet. It's it's sweet. There's a little
bit of tart.
Some kick some kick, but
long long finish.
Yeah. A long finish. It really sticks with
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it. According to your story, that's kinda what
he was going for. Yeah. I'll I'll be
honest. I I really think it's more like
grappa Yeah. Than it than in than I
would call it a a whiskey or,
anything like that. It because it's it's definitely
fruity.
It's almost like a distilled,
brandy.
Yeah. Well, I could see And there's so
many yeah. It's not quite
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thick enough to be brandy, but it's Mm-mm.
It's brandy. It's definitely got the flavor. Yeah.
And while the the that's coming from the
carat too. It has it has absolutely zero
for legs.
Legs. Explain legs. Yeah. So leg legs is
when you tilt tilt the glass at a
at a, like, a a 20
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4, 25 degree angle. Okay. Give it a
a small spin. Shit. I forgot my protractor.
And then and then when you stand it
when you stand it back up, you see
there's I mean, there's there's a few lines
running down Yeah. But there's not a lot
of
so that's that's the legs. Okay. Right? So
you you just kinda wanna tilt it,
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run it run it up the side is
where you're trying to do it. Mine doesn't
have legs
because I don't have legs. And then look
at the it's god. It's the drips.
The drips, Skyler. The drips. I like drips
too. Oh, goodness.
Just because you are a drip is awesome.
Apparently, I really enjoy drips because I work
with 1 on a daily.
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This to me is
but I think, once again, I think that's
what he was going for. Yep. This is
like an old fashioned.
I could you throw some bitters in here,
put this on some ice,
maybe a little sugar, maybe not, because it
does have enough sweetness. The silhouette. Right? So
the funny thing is is I'm looking, he
he also offers,
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they also offer a a Courant Old Fashioned,
right, using the Von Payne,
4 dashes aromatic bitters, I know I have
that here.
What I don't why we've got got kind
of a cutie peel, not really a it's
not a true orange but Sure.
And so and but I don't have the
Luxardo cherry that he wants.
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But we could I mean, you know, if
we want to, I think maybe it'd be
fun with this one. Let's take another little
break.
We'll kind of extended break, but with the
magic of editing, come right back.
This is live. Yeah. It's amazing. But, but
let's do let's do a That's fantastic. Let's
do another let's do another little break and
maybe make ourselves,
either, you know, a variant of the pain
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in the ass or a variant of the,
the blackcurrant
old fashioned I like the way you're thinking.
He's got some other stuff in here too,
like he's got a margarita,
that he does with it,
a royal pain, which is,
just the, Von Payne black and some,
Brut Rose
champagne. Oh, I bet that would be nice
too. I could see that that pairing nicely
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with that. I think I've got some tonic.
We could do the, blackcurrant
tonic. So if we want to, let's maybe
make a couple of these make make a
couple of these cocktails and, and talk about
it. This sounds bad, doesn't it? This this
is an Uber night home. Me, I've done
worse stuff.
Let's challenge that tonight.
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this short break. This is bourbon with the
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selection of wine and spirits on the Emerald
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offering locals and tourists alike expertise on the
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bourbon aficionado,
Beach Liquors is your go to with 12
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inside their Destin store. Kelly's Beach Liquors, locally
owned and operated with locations in Fort Walton
Beach, Destin, Crestview, and now Pensacola Beach.
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Now back to Bourbon with the boys.
Alright. I like it. I like it when
it skips. Yeah. Remember what I said about
Skyler not knowing? Yeah. Well, I I think
I take it back. I take it back.
You know? I know. You know.
What happened?
You you started dancing.
Hey. The the other one's this, when he
grabs a salt shaker and decides to start
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singing the lyrics Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Especially to a song that doesn't have have
lyrics? Don't have lyrics?
And then and then there's also
the The wave. That doesn't happen.
And when he drops to when he drops
to one knee singing into the salt shaker
because he's feeling it, oh, you know he's
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gone. It's good. It's good. It's
good. It's like Celine Dion and the Titanic.
You know, you just gotta
it's passion. You just gotta feel it. Yeah.
So guys, I I just I just wanna
point out here that Mhmm. That Granite, I
I I I I didn't have everything that
we needed for the
for the old fashioned, so I apologize.
I we could do the, the What kind
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of operation do you run here? We could
we could do the pain in the ass.
I did have everything.
Oh, I might have had everything for the
goth gotharita too.
God, do we need to take another break?
No, no, no, no, no because I really
didn't have any more than that. We're definitely
gonna need an Uber today. Yeah, I I
did,
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I had everything for the blackcurrant tonic. So
there was 4
drinks we could have made here with the
4 of us sitting around. Yes. Okay.
And
and 2 of you jackwagons followed me in
making a mule.
That's because I thought the jackwagon
I didn't have the ingredients.
If you'd just said, I have the ingredients
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for the other one, I would have done
that. So But guess what? We could have
gotten there. You didn't. We could have gotten
there. You didn't.
Actually, I I did. So this is your
fault, Connor. Say, hey. 1 of us needs
to do the black tonic
Yeah. And you just made yourself a mule.
Well, let's just start over again. Just take
a break and start Glencairn. And in in
case you guys are In a Glencairn. Yeah.
In in case behind a Glencairn,
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that's,
that's I'm trying to keep the dish load
lower out here. Okay? Yeah. The the but
the funny thing is is I think he
he squeezed the the lime in there first
And then
No. I used your pre squeezed lime juice
that was in the fridge.
Pre squeezed. Artificial insemination.
So in case you're wondering, yes, sir. We
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we might have taken a a little longer
on the break than we should have. It
was only 2 minutes. But, but I but
I will
I will admit,
in in, you know, full disclosure that, yeah,
bourbon with the boys, it was all supposed
to be about bourbon. Maybe we'd slip a
rye whiskey in. The black the blackcurrant whiskey,
well, it's a little more like grappa, I
think. Don't you? Yeah. That was a little
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more like rum. It's a little more sweet.
I gotta say though, mixing it in the
cocktail,
I think the,
I I I think the, the mule was
great. The paint the pain in the ass,
the blackcurrant mule. Yeah. I think I think
it's phenomenal.
I know we didn't quite have the orange.
Right. For the old fashioned, but I kinda
did with just with the But there's cuties
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here, Jim, and you didn't Yeah. But those
didn't take advantage of the cuties. Those don't
have the same cuties. It's
come on. But we're like, family. Well, well,
well, hey. Hey. Let's let's be clear. Yeah.
He has a Colombian girlfriend. When we when
we say cuties, we're talking about small oranges.
There are no other ladies here. Simmer that
out.
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We don't want him to end up with
a necktie. Yes.
Which they don't call it a necktie
in Colombia. Yeah. They just call it a
necktie. I'm sure it's called a neck.
This but just adding bitters to this does
cut a little of the sweetness down. Yeah.
This is definitely I do not feel that
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this is a
something that you're going to sip. No. I
don't I don't think it's a sipping dish
to me at all. I mean, I could
see you shooting this maybe. Maybe. If it's
Oh, it's so it's so thick though and
heavy. Yeah. Just No. But I I could
I could see I could see if you
if you had it iced down Yeah. Like
a like Jaeger or something like that. Yeah.
Definitely. I could I could see that. But
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this is not not terrible with the just
with bitters in it. So I could imagine
if we actually had some
orange, you know, the proper orange peelies. And
cuties aren't oranges too? Orange. No. They're not.
I I kinda I kinda regret that I
I've read about it first. I would have
liked to have tasted it because I'm I'm
sure if I had just come out of
the gate and tasted it, I would have
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said something chauvinistic like this is made for
tattooed women. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then
then be able to read the story and
find out College tattooed women. Exactly what was
done for. Yes. To be real. Yeah.
On a boat in the bikinis. Yeah. These
aren't Birkenstock, like, Subaru driving women. We're talking
to your honor. No. No. These are, these
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are, the, what what are they? The the
the pinup,
counterculture
tattooed
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Hate your neck. Yeah.
That that's right. That's right. Yeah. Beautiful ladies.
All beautiful ladies. That's so that's By the
way. That's what a friend tells me. Or
these Birkenstocks or not.
The Avril Lavigne's of the world. That's right.
I I gotta tell you this. Again, probably
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a story I shouldn't tell, but, you know,
back when I was working with the, with
the college kids all the time at the
fraternity and
and something came up and I was, like,
man, I don't I don't get it. I
don't get tattoos. I think, you know, woman's
just beautiful enough. She doesn't need tattoos, like,
how do y'all
get all excited about these tattooed girls? And
one of the kids looked at me and
said, that way I know she's 18.
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That is the best answer I think I've
ever heard.
Narrows out the jailbait, doesn't it? I think
I'm just gonna start looking at people with
tattoos.
Thank god for smart people. That's yeah. I
know. Right? That's what I've ever heard. Wow.
Thank god for nobody at this table. You
you kids are freaking smart.
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Yeah. Wow. Sucking going there. Yeah. Damn.
Alright.
So,
Von Payne, definitely, I I I I think
it's a great whiskey. I do think it
is. I think it's a great cocktail whiskey.
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Probably will not sip it
or shoot it. It's just not gonna be
my thing. Right. Yep. So I do think
it's kind of it it it's mixed in
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around the bourbons
and the whiskeys?
I don't I mean It should be in
a cordial. I think it should be in
a cordial. I I think so too. I
think I think it's a little more of
a cordial.
So
again, not my style
but, good after dinner drink,
with,
you know, in in a cocktail. I I
would certainly go through.
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Honestly, I I'm I'm thinking one of the
things I'm gonna I'm gonna try here shortly
is the, is the one with tonic water.
Mhmm. I think, blackcurrant and tonic, I think
that'll probably be pretty good. Yeah. So,
Jim, thoughts? We'll start with you like we
have been all along. Well, I'm not gonna
give it a big high on the straight.
Yeah. I don't think we can. I don't
(26:26):
I don't think it fits. But as far
as for mixing, I think it's
pretty versatile.
Like, it would scale with gingerbread. 1 to
5, Jim. Well, that's what I You gotta
give it what you
didn't, Tom.
You just you're talking with your grandma. You're
talking with your mom about that again, Tom.
No. I cannot. I I wouldn't give it
we've been rating these on
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straight. There we go. I'm not gonna say
this on straight. I I can't I would
give you nothing on straight. I don't I
don't think we can rate it on straight
because I I because I don't
again, you know, it was it was over
by the whiskeys. It's called a whiskey. So
that's called a 0. Yeah. I think so.
Yeah. But but that being said, I do
think in this cocktail, I I do think
this, this Black Crock Mule Yeah. Probably one
(27:09):
of the best. I mean, I could see
me trading that out for because, you know,
I've moved from mules to horse feathers lately
Yes. Just a little different. I could see
me drinking this. You better explain what a
horse feather is for the audience that does
not know. A horse feather out of out
of Kentucky. It's a play on a Kentucky
mule.
The difference is,
instead of,
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a little bit of,
right. Instead of instead of lime juice and
a little bit of simple syrup which is
what a lot of people put in their
mule,
a horse feather is it's the bourbon, it's
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lemon juice,
it's still the, ginger beer, and then it's
about 5 dashes of bitters which really cuts
down the acidity of it, and the lemon
juice makes it a little sweeter, not tart.
But Okay. But I could see me drinking
a black currant.
Yeah.
I I could see that. I could see
it. Definitely. I could definitely see it. Yeah.
But once again, most of these that we're
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talking about when you're mixing these, these are
drinks that you wanna make at home. Right.
These are not something you're ordering in a
bar unless you're going to a high end
place where they're where it takes them 5
minutes to make you a drink because they
are doing it the proper way. Yeah. This
is what you do for yourself at home.
Yeah. Yeah. And I think it holds up
really, really well. And that's that's one of
the things Steve Allen said about making it
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is he wanted it to hold up strong
in a cocktail. Right? Like the like the
piggyback that we did a couple of weeks
back. Yeah. He wanted it to hold up
strong in a cocktail and and so it's
a cocktail forward whiskey. Tom, your your thoughts?
Yeah. I I I agree with you. I
think, you know, as a as a sipping
whiskey, it just it just isn't there. And
I'm a rum drinker and the sweetness,
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I don't know. It just it just didn't
sit well with me. But as a That's
Jim's ice, by the way, in the background
as he's kinda. Kinda.
As he's down his old fashioned
I know. It's wonderful. He's He just never
shuts up.
I'm sorry, Tom. You were saying? So yeah.
(29:17):
I
I I I like it in a drink,
and, I yield back the rest of my
time.
To to to a speaker for do I
like speaker? Yeah. He likes to just talk
over me, so why not? Scatter, your thoughts.
You're you were pretty visceral.
I did not like it solo. Right? Not
something I'm gonna drink, and just I did
not like it. Yeah. I
(29:39):
am gonna
smash this bottle, and they're gonna not like
it. I'm just I don't like it.
Honestly, with
making a mule out of it, it was
pretty good, but,
I I should've gave it a little more
of a fair shake than I did from
the get go.
Just not my thing. I had to Not
in my flavor profile. I just love out
(29:59):
of I just love out of the gate.
I did not like it.
It was not for me.
I don't care for anything that it stands
for or people that like it stand for.
We're just on opposite sides of the track
when it comes to the blackcurrant
and Skyler Black. But I like that.
(30:22):
But you do like the top of it.
That's right. The pour the pour spout is
fantastic. Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. It's cool. Fantastic.
Fantastic.
Yeah. Oh. Oh, wow. Hit the button. That
that
That's fantastic.
Well,
again, for another bourbon with the boys, it's
gone completely off the trail. That's gone.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Vaughn Payne's blackcurrant,
Steve Allen right out of Clearwater, Florida. Oh
my god. I hope Steve hears this and
hears that it's a Florida show and decides
to call in and rip us a new
one.
You know what's really good? Tom looking forward
to it. He is I think week 1,
you know, when when we regenerate these things,
(31:03):
week 1 is okay, week 2. And then
week 3 is just off the rails.
It's cyclical in nature. It's amazing how that
happens. We have a pattern.
Yeah. We have a pattern. I feel like
we need to re rearrange the order when
these are released.
We could. Yeah. I feel like it's time
to wrap this up and eat some of
Tom's crack.
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Woah.
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Jim. I thought you'd fix that. We're never
gonna fix that. I can't I can't wait
till we get a camera. Yeah.
Just as I get into it. Just as
I'm I'm feeling it. Just as I'm right
there in the crew.
It's like a punch in the weapon.
Just done.
Just done. We get a camera, and everybody
can see us dancing and just having a
good time, and then all of a sudden,
(00:42):
skip just boom.
Jim, you had one job. I know. Never
ever get rid of the skip. I never
get to stay. It's iconic now. I'm thinking
it's just stay. Yeah. Well, this is a
product of B Team promoters. I guess,
when good enough is just enough.
A subsidiary of the B Team Media Group.
Right.
(01:02):
Jesus.
He's a big fan of church, by the
way.
He is. What do we got today, Bobby?
Well, today, we're doing a little,
Von Payne black.
Von Payne black. Yeah. Now well, one, I
gotta say, first of all, it's absolutely awesome,
the gargoyle
pour spout instead of a stopper. Instead of
a naughty. Although, I I I did Naughty.
(01:25):
Naughty. Naughty. Invoke the name of both lords
based on which side of the house you're
on,
trying to get the stoppers out so that
we could use it and everything.
But, but, anyway, it's there. But, you know,
I I thought it was funny. I was
I was doing a lot of reading
and and trying to understand, you know, what
(01:46):
is Von Payne? What's Von Payne Black about?
Where is it? And everything.
And, you know, the funny thing about it
is it it it just isn't any whiskey.
Right? Okay. It it's literally
a labor of of love from Von Payne
spirits. And it it's, Steve Allen, the, owner
operator,
from Clearwater,
Florida
(02:06):
Oh. Is is the one that set out
to make it. And and he said it's
not just about making a drink, it's about
crafting
an experience.
Right? So he he set out to create
a whiskey that would bring friends together,
kinda spice up their adventures,
and it was inspired by his life in
the French culture
as
well as, kind of just a faithful day
(02:27):
out boating with his daughters. Did you say
French culture? Yeah. French culture. Oh, French. Not
French. French. French. Okay. F r I n
g e. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Now, picture so
picture this. Alright?
Steve's kind of a designated boat driver. Okay.
He's watching,
in in horror
as his daughters and their friends
are just
(02:48):
chugging vodka
straight from the bottle. Gross. Just their faces
so you know, faces one of the I'm
sorry. Yeah. Go ahead. Their face is contorting
because they hated it. Yeah. Yeah. That's what
you have to do with it. It always
irritates me about when you see people on
TV and they go, oh, I'm drinking, and
they take a bottle of warm vodka and
pour it in a glass and just start
(03:08):
drinking. Nobody does that to me. I can
tell you stories too. Alcoholics do. Yeah. No.
I mean, you can tell you stories too.
Maybe on a whim, but you're not doing
that, especially by yourself.
If you drink warm vodka around me, I'm
gonna charge trying to get you in a
program. I got I got stories to tell.
Oh my god. Which is kinda which is
kinda where Steve was going. Right? Because so
(03:29):
at some point, he just looks at his
daughters and he goes,
why? Yeah. He's just totally baffled, like Exactly.
Why can't you do anything different?
And their response was, well well, we don't
wanna get bloated.
Because he's like, why not why not a
why not a mixed drink? Why not something
like that? Right. Well, we don't wanna get
bloated. Yeah. Okay. Is what they answer back.
(03:50):
And, they said, and and fireball, well, that's
just gonna make us sick.
And tequila, well, it's awful or as I
like to say, piss of Satan.
You know, tequila is awful, and we don't
like Jaeger.
And so he just started thinking. He said,
you know, there's there's a gap in the
market here.
Right? There's there's there's a gap in the
(04:10):
market for liquor that can be fun,
flavorful,
and edgy.
And Honestly, he said honestly, he said Okay.
Just like these young ladies. Okay. So I
know. I'm I this is Bourbon with the
Boys, and we're gonna talk about a a
a a whiskey inspired by
College by age. Girls. With chicks, man. But
(04:32):
so so I if any of you complain,
just remember.
But now he said, it's it's something that
should be edgy. It should be something just
like these young ladies that are that are
tattooed, that are edgy, that are strong, independent
women,
you know, but still
are still very much ladies. Right? Something something
that can be fun, something is there. So,
(04:53):
you know, he set out and he said,
I gotta do something. Now like I said,
he's he's been in the French culture. Right?
He he's he's a self proclaimed nerd from
high school. He was a punk club bouncer.
He was an extreme sports enthusiast at one
point, and he just wanted to
something that resonated with this eclectic past that
he had. Okay. Right? And sort of the
(05:15):
vibrant present that his daughters were presenting to
him,
and that's where he found
Blackcurrant.
Yes. So why this is called Von Payne
Black is because of the blackcurrant,
which is a it's a tart,
sweet,
kinda
rebellious fruit that actually was illegal to grow
in the US for a time. Okay. Right?
(05:37):
So there you go. I mean, he's
back on the fringe. Grape, but it's not
really a grape. Right.
So he took a lot of time experimenting.
He, you know, you gotta love him because
he used his his kids and his
friends as getting things. Yes. So Try this.
Oh, you do need to die or throw
it off. To go out of the boat
today. Yeah. And and I got some stuff
for you guys to drink. Could be
(05:58):
could be great, could be awful, don't know.
Could even be Yeah. We'll come back, though,
I promise.
Yeah. Yeah. But then Fantastic. Finally, he got
down to to this whiskey. Right? It's kind
of this, deep red. It tastes fantastic
and just really makes you go, wow,
with every every sip is what he said.
Now Sound bite. He really didn't stop there.
(06:20):
He wanted he wanted the packaging to kind
of free the inner spirit. Right? Yes. So
he kinda went with this darkier
darker, sexier side here. So that's that's why
we have what we have. We have the
gargoyles,
the whiskey coming out of the mouth of
the winged gargoyles
because that's what it is. It's not really
a stopper. It's a pour spout. Right? Yep.
(06:41):
Just unafraid of the world.
He apparently went through Wouldn't really call that
sexy. I don't know that's I don't know
how sexy I mean, if you think if
you think about are sexy. Well, if you
think if you think about who he was
going for. Right? He was going for these
these edgy kinda counterculture
ladies. Right? The sexy, the, you know The
punk girls?
Tattoos and all that stuff. Yeah. We've all
(07:02):
we've all looked at them and gone. Gothy.
Oof. I like tattoos all of a sudden.
Yeah.
Different story about that. We'll talk about that
when we're not recording an episode. Yeah. Called
Mythicality. Everything's on record.
Right. Exactly.
So he went through a ton of 3
d proto prototypes,
that he 3 d printed out. So, apparently,
Chip is a good friend of his.
(07:25):
And so so that's where he kinda came
up with the, with the current gargoyle tie
top right there. So,
you know, now if you if anybody ever
says, oh, Von Payne Black, what's what's up
with that?
Now you've you've got the story, you know,
that's the brainchild of Steve Allen, the man
who turned a a boating trip epiphany into
a whiskey
(07:46):
that's, bold and adventurous,
for its drinkers.
And, he says it's the pleasure
of pain.
Yes.
So just remember, life's too short
for boring booze. I'm
This is true. Yeah. This guy is all
of a sudden my hero. Yeah. There you
go. Now I've lost my state of Clearwater,
(08:07):
Florida.
He's not far. How does that make you
feel? My standard, does he make anything else?
I have never even actually looked this up
because I've had this before.
Von Von Payne spirits. You know, I I
thought I had that up. I think I
accidentally closed out that, that tab real quick.
So And if he doesn't, this is pretty
new relatively speaking. It's fairly it's fairly new.
(08:28):
Von Von Payne Spirits,
LLC,
is the company. Let's see if I can
pull it up. Now I'm now I'm trying
yes, I am of legal age.
Yes. No, really. So really when I when
I go to Von Payne Spirits, like,
all there's Von Payne Black,
Reserve, and then there's a store locator.
Okay. Yep. So 2.
(08:49):
Yeah. Yeah. So,
so oh, libations. Let's see what he's got.
It only takes 1. Libations.
Well, it says libations. Featured Whiskey Limations.
No. It's it's all about, mixed cocktails that
you can make,
with with Von Payne. So Von Payne is,
this is pretty much their this is what
(09:11):
they make. This is what we make. So
so question for you guys that are bourbon
drinkers and whiskey drinkers and all that stuff.
When you Let me let's see. How how
can I help you? You bet.
Wait. Who's that? Who spoke? Who spoke?
When you come across something that is promoted
or can be promoted
as a mixer for for different drinks, how
do you look at that? Because,
(09:32):
you know, you you you you see some
of these these bourbons and stuff like that
and it's all about individually drinking them, you
know, with either Sure. Ice or not not
ice. So
how do you how do you look at
that? I I think Either one of you
can answer. I I think it's an evolution
of the marketplace. Yeah. If you wanna know
the truth, I I think
as bourbon is becoming more mainstream, more in
(09:55):
culture, more
out there,
you know, it's it's kinda
bourbon lost its way in the seventies because
vodka came out and vodka really killed bourbon
in the seventies because what vodka started marketing
heavily
is that it was lighter, it was pure,
it was cleaner,
right, and that you could make all these
drinks with it where where bourbon was this
(10:17):
is a man's drink. This is what it
is. This is and vodka hit it hit
the ladies
hard. Yeah. Right? And, hey, it's a it's
a ladies' drink. It's the lighter side. It's
the easier thing. It's the so I think,
you know, having learned from that
as bourbons turned up over the last 10
years back to mainstream,
it's now going, hey, wait, there's a lot
(10:38):
of history behind bourbon. Let's talk about it.
There's a lot of ways
to bring bourbon and whiskey
to the market. So I think when we
when we hear about some of these whiskeys
like this, when we hear about some of
these bourbons
and they're trying to pull them back in,
I think that's probably what they should have
done in the seventies. Well, and because there's
a lot of cool stories and cool stuff.
(11:00):
Yeah. I would agree because there's a lot
of good there's a lot of good
drinks out there that are mixed with bourbon
and whiskeys and stuff like that. But you
but you hear about the vodka ones. Yeah.
And let's be honest, when you're talking about
mixing bourbon, especially if you're talking about a
40, 50, $60 bottle of bourbon,
You're not doing that in a bar. Right.
You're doing that at home. So I might
(11:20):
make this at home and I'm like, hey,
I'm gonna make a,
I mean, old I'll say old fashioned for
lack of
thought of what what else because I love
them. I'll make an old fashioned out of
a,
you know, $50, $60 bottle of bourbon sometimes.
Okay. Because I'm not
watering it down like I would in a
(11:40):
bar. Right. I do that in a bar.
It's like, here's $50 and they're putting all
this other crap in it. Whereas, if I'm
doing it, I'm putting a little sugar in
it, a little bit of bitters, and an
ice cube. Yeah. Yeah. And that's something to
make it a little refreshing or whatever. And,
you know, it it's funny since you asked
that. I I don't know. Well, when we
hit break,
I'll look real quick and and see if
I do.
There's actually a,
(12:02):
one of the first,
cocktails that he talks about here, he calls
a pain in the ass
and it's a
it's a it's using Von Payne to make
a mule.
Okay. So it's 2 ounces of Von Payne
black, 4 ounces ginger beer, and then a
half ounce of key lime juice. I think
key lime juice is the only thing I
might not have. Yeah. So I'm gonna go
look and see if I got at least
(12:23):
some limes. If that's the case, we might,
we we might try to, let's try and
taste it, then then let's make ourselves a
a pain in the ass. Okay. I'd finally
like to know what it's like to be
Tom.
Yeah. That's good. Good point. I am. Yeah.
I'll own that.
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It's always always a joy to skip that
beat.
I think it's I dance to the treble.
It's it's part it's part of the persona.
It you know, my OCD is just so
so loving and enjoyable. You'll be okay. Get
over it. You'll be okay.
Oh, goodness.
(14:13):
Alright. So, so we've got the Von Payne,
black. It's a it's a blended whiskey now.
So it's a little
a little different than what we normally do.
It's definitely not a bourbon,
but it is a blend of whiskey.
Guys, go ahead. Don't tell me you don't
smell like grape.
I don't smell
anything. Okay, Tom. We're gonna have to rotor
root your nose or something. Something's different. I
(14:35):
smell I smell nothing but the carat. Yeah.
I know. That's right. That's exactly what I
had done, and I smelled nothing. I'm I'm
pretty sure if somebody just handed handed this
to me, I would think it was, Grappa.
That's fantastic.
Well, Tom's already given his feedback. Must be
(14:56):
week 3. There's no bite. This is
this is 90 proof,
and it really has no bite. But it
is it's not too sweet for me. That
is sweet. It's it's sweet. There's a little
bit of tart.
Some kick some kick, but
long long finish.
Yeah. A long finish. It really sticks with
(15:18):
it. According to your story, that's kinda what
he was going for. Yeah. I'll I'll be
honest. I I really think it's more like
grappa Yeah. Than it than in than I
would call it a a whiskey or,
anything like that. It because it's it's definitely
fruity.
It's almost like a distilled,
brandy.
Yeah. Well, I could see And there's so
many yeah. It's not quite
(15:40):
thick enough to be brandy, but it's Mm-mm.
It's brandy. It's definitely got the flavor. Yeah.
And while the the that's coming from the
carat too. It has it has absolutely zero
for legs.
Legs. Explain legs. Yeah. So leg legs is
when you tilt tilt the glass at a
at a, like, a a 20
(16:00):
4, 25 degree angle. Okay. Give it a
a small spin. Shit. I forgot my protractor.
And then and then when you stand it
when you stand it back up, you see
there's I mean, there's there's a few lines
running down Yeah. But there's not a lot
of
so that's that's the legs. Okay. Right? So
you you just kinda wanna tilt it,
(16:20):
run it run it up the side is
where you're trying to do it. Mine doesn't
have legs
because I don't have legs. And then look
at the it's god. It's the drips.
The drips, Skyler. The drips. I like drips
too. Oh, goodness.
Just because you are a drip is awesome.
Apparently, I really enjoy drips because I work
with 1 on a daily.
(16:43):
This to me is
but I think, once again, I think that's
what he was going for. Yep. This is
like an old fashioned.
I could you throw some bitters in here,
put this on some ice,
maybe a little sugar, maybe not, because it
does have enough sweetness. The silhouette. Right? So
the funny thing is is I'm looking, he
he also offers,
(17:03):
they also offer a a Courant Old Fashioned,
right, using the Von Payne,
4 dashes aromatic bitters, I know I have
that here.
What I don't why we've got got kind
of a cutie peel, not really a it's
not a true orange but Sure.
And so and but I don't have the
Luxardo cherry that he wants.
(17:23):
But we could I mean, you know, if
we want to, I think maybe it'd be
fun with this one. Let's take another little
break.
We'll kind of extended break, but with the
magic of editing, come right back.
This is live. Yeah. It's amazing. But, but
let's do let's do a That's fantastic. Let's
do another let's do another little break and
maybe make ourselves,
either, you know, a variant of the pain
(17:45):
in the ass or a variant of the,
the blackcurrant
old fashioned I like the way you're thinking.
He's got some other stuff in here too,
like he's got a margarita,
that he does with it,
a royal pain, which is,
just the, Von Payne black and some,
Brut Rose
champagne. Oh, I bet that would be nice
too. I could see that that pairing nicely
(18:07):
with that. I think I've got some tonic.
We could do the, blackcurrant
tonic. So if we want to, let's maybe
make a couple of these make make a
couple of these cocktails and, and talk about
it. This sounds bad, doesn't it? This this
is an Uber night home. Me, I've done
worse stuff.
Let's challenge that tonight.
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Alright. I like it. I like it when
it skips. Yeah. Remember what I said about
Skyler not knowing? Yeah. Well, I I think
I take it back. I take it back.
You know? I know. You know.
What happened?
You you started dancing.
Hey. The the other one's this, when he
grabs a salt shaker and decides to start
(19:45):
singing the lyrics Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Especially to a song that doesn't have have
lyrics? Don't have lyrics?
And then and then there's also
the The wave. That doesn't happen.
And when he drops to when he drops
to one knee singing into the salt shaker
because he's feeling it, oh, you know he's
(20:06):
gone. It's good. It's good. It's
good. It's like Celine Dion and the Titanic.
You know, you just gotta
it's passion. You just gotta feel it. Yeah.
So guys, I I just I just wanna
point out here that Mhmm. That Granite, I
I I I I didn't have everything that
we needed for the
for the old fashioned, so I apologize.
I we could do the, the What kind
(20:27):
of operation do you run here? We could
we could do the pain in the ass.
I did have everything.
Oh, I might have had everything for the
goth gotharita too.
God, do we need to take another break?
No, no, no, no, no because I really
didn't have any more than that. We're definitely
gonna need an Uber today. Yeah, I I
did,
(20:49):
I had everything for the blackcurrant tonic. So
there was 4
drinks we could have made here with the
4 of us sitting around. Yes. Okay.
And
and 2 of you jackwagons followed me in
making a mule.
That's because I thought the jackwagon
I didn't have the ingredients.
If you'd just said, I have the ingredients
(21:11):
for the other one, I would have done
that. So But guess what? We could have
gotten there. You didn't. We could have gotten
there. You didn't.
Actually, I I did. So this is your
fault, Connor. Say, hey. 1 of us needs
to do the black tonic
Yeah. And you just made yourself a mule.
Well, let's just start over again. Just take
a break and start Glencairn. And in in
case you guys are In a Glencairn. Yeah.
In in case behind a Glencairn,
(21:33):
that's,
that's I'm trying to keep the dish load
lower out here. Okay? Yeah. The the but
the funny thing is is I think he
he squeezed the the lime in there first
And then
No. I used your pre squeezed lime juice
that was in the fridge.
Pre squeezed. Artificial insemination.
So in case you're wondering, yes, sir. We
(21:54):
we might have taken a a little longer
on the break than we should have. It
was only 2 minutes. But, but I but
I will
I will admit,
in in, you know, full disclosure that, yeah,
bourbon with the boys, it was all supposed
to be about bourbon. Maybe we'd slip a
rye whiskey in. The black the blackcurrant whiskey,
well, it's a little more like grappa, I
think. Don't you? Yeah. That was a little
(22:15):
more like rum. It's a little more sweet.
I gotta say though, mixing it in the
cocktail,
I think the,
I I I think the, the mule was
great. The paint the pain in the ass,
the blackcurrant mule. Yeah. I think I think
it's phenomenal.
I know we didn't quite have the orange.
Right. For the old fashioned, but I kinda
did with just with the But there's cuties
(22:36):
here, Jim, and you didn't Yeah. But those
didn't take advantage of the cuties. Those don't
have the same cuties. It's
come on. But we're like, family. Well, well,
well, hey. Hey. Let's let's be clear. Yeah.
He has a Colombian girlfriend. When we when
we say cuties, we're talking about small oranges.
There are no other ladies here. Simmer that
out.
(22:56):
We don't want him to end up with
a necktie. Yes.
Which they don't call it a necktie
in Colombia. Yeah. They just call it a
necktie. I'm sure it's called a neck.
This but just adding bitters to this does
cut a little of the sweetness down. Yeah.
This is definitely I do not feel that
(23:17):
this is a
something that you're going to sip. No. I
don't I don't think it's a sipping dish
to me at all. I mean, I could
see you shooting this maybe. Maybe. If it's
Oh, it's so it's so thick though and
heavy. Yeah. Just No. But I I could
I could see I could see if you
if you had it iced down Yeah. Like
a like Jaeger or something like that. Yeah.
Definitely. I could I could see that. But
(23:37):
this is not not terrible with the just
with bitters in it. So I could imagine
if we actually had some
orange, you know, the proper orange peelies. And
cuties aren't oranges too? Orange. No. They're not.
I I kinda I kinda regret that I
I've read about it first. I would have
liked to have tasted it because I'm I'm
sure if I had just come out of
the gate and tasted it, I would have
(23:59):
said something chauvinistic like this is made for
tattooed women. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then
then be able to read the story and
find out College tattooed women. Exactly what was
done for. Yes. To be real. Yeah.
On a boat in the bikinis. Yeah. These
aren't Birkenstock, like, Subaru driving women. We're talking
to your honor. No. No. These are, these
(24:19):
are, the, what what are they? The the
the pinup,
counterculture
tattooed
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Hate your neck. Yeah.
That that's right. That's right. Yeah. Beautiful ladies.
All beautiful ladies. That's so that's By the
way. That's what a friend tells me. Or
these Birkenstocks or not.
The Avril Lavigne's of the world. That's right.
I I gotta tell you this. Again, probably
(24:41):
a story I shouldn't tell, but, you know,
back when I was working with the, with
the college kids all the time at the
fraternity and
and something came up and I was, like,
man, I don't I don't get it. I
don't get tattoos. I think, you know, woman's
just beautiful enough. She doesn't need tattoos, like,
how do y'all
get all excited about these tattooed girls? And
one of the kids looked at me and
said, that way I know she's 18.
(25:04):
That is the best answer I think I've
ever heard.
Narrows out the jailbait, doesn't it? I think
I'm just gonna start looking at people with
tattoos.
Thank god for smart people. That's yeah. I
know. Right? That's what I've ever heard. Wow.
Thank god for nobody at this table. You
you kids are freaking smart.
(25:25):
Yeah. Wow. Sucking going there. Yeah. Damn.
Alright.
So,
Von Payne, definitely, I I I I think
it's a great whiskey. I do think it
is. I think it's a great cocktail whiskey.
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Probably will not sip it
or shoot it. It's just not gonna be
my thing. Right. Yep. So I do think
it's kind of it it it's mixed in
(25:45):
around the bourbons
and the whiskeys?
I don't I mean It should be in
a cordial. I think it should be in
a cordial. I I think so too. I
think I think it's a little more of
a cordial.
So
again, not my style
but, good after dinner drink,
with,
you know, in in a cocktail. I I
would certainly go through.
(26:06):
Honestly, I I'm I'm thinking one of the
things I'm gonna I'm gonna try here shortly
is the, is the one with tonic water.
Mhmm. I think, blackcurrant and tonic, I think
that'll probably be pretty good. Yeah. So,
Jim, thoughts? We'll start with you like we
have been all along. Well, I'm not gonna
give it a big high on the straight.
Yeah. I don't think we can. I don't
(26:26):
I don't think it fits. But as far
as for mixing, I think it's
pretty versatile.
Like, it would scale with gingerbread. 1 to
5, Jim. Well, that's what I You gotta
give it what you
didn't, Tom.
You just you're talking with your grandma. You're
talking with your mom about that again, Tom.
No. I cannot. I I wouldn't give it
we've been rating these on
(26:48):
straight. There we go. I'm not gonna say
this on straight. I I can't I would
give you nothing on straight. I don't I
don't think we can rate it on straight
because I I because I don't
again, you know, it was it was over
by the whiskeys. It's called a whiskey. So
that's called a 0. Yeah. I think so.
Yeah. But but that being said, I do
think in this cocktail, I I do think
this, this Black Crock Mule Yeah. Probably one
(27:09):
of the best. I mean, I could see
me trading that out for because, you know,
I've moved from mules to horse feathers lately
Yes. Just a little different. I could see
me drinking this. You better explain what a
horse feather is for the audience that does
not know. A horse feather out of out
of Kentucky. It's a play on a Kentucky
mule.
The difference is,
instead of,
(27:32):
a little bit of,
right. Instead of instead of lime juice and
a little bit of simple syrup which is
what a lot of people put in their
mule,
a horse feather is it's the bourbon, it's
(27:53):
lemon juice,
it's still the, ginger beer, and then it's
about 5 dashes of bitters which really cuts
down the acidity of it, and the lemon
juice makes it a little sweeter, not tart.
But Okay. But I could see me drinking
a black currant.
Yeah.
I I could see that. I could see
it. Definitely. I could definitely see it. Yeah.
But once again, most of these that we're
(28:13):
talking about when you're mixing these, these are
drinks that you wanna make at home. Right.
These are not something you're ordering in a
bar unless you're going to a high end
place where they're where it takes them 5
minutes to make you a drink because they
are doing it the proper way. Yeah. This
is what you do for yourself at home.
Yeah. Yeah. And I think it holds up
really, really well. And that's that's one of
the things Steve Allen said about making it
(28:34):
is he wanted it to hold up strong
in a cocktail. Right? Like the like the
piggyback that we did a couple of weeks
back. Yeah. He wanted it to hold up
strong in a cocktail and and so it's
a cocktail forward whiskey. Tom, your your thoughts?
Yeah. I I I agree with you. I
think, you know, as a as a sipping
whiskey, it just it just isn't there. And
I'm a rum drinker and the sweetness,
(28:56):
I don't know. It just it just didn't
sit well with me. But as a That's
Jim's ice, by the way, in the background
as he's kinda. Kinda.
As he's down his old fashioned
I know. It's wonderful. He's He just never
shuts up.
I'm sorry, Tom. You were saying? So yeah.
(29:17):
I
I I I like it in a drink,
and, I yield back the rest of my
time.
To to to a speaker for do I
like speaker? Yeah. He likes to just talk
over me, so why not? Scatter, your thoughts.
You're you were pretty visceral.
I did not like it solo. Right? Not
something I'm gonna drink, and just I did
not like it. Yeah. I
(29:39):
am gonna
smash this bottle, and they're gonna not like
it. I'm just I don't like it.
Honestly, with
making a mule out of it, it was
pretty good, but,
I I should've gave it a little more
of a fair shake than I did from
the get go.
Just not my thing. I had to Not
in my flavor profile. I just love out
(29:59):
of I just love out of the gate.
I did not like it.
It was not for me.
I don't care for anything that it stands
for or people that like it stand for.
We're just on opposite sides of the track
when it comes to the blackcurrant
and Skyler Black. But I like that.
(30:22):
But you do like the top of it.
That's right. The pour the pour spout is
fantastic. Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. It's cool. Fantastic.
Fantastic.
Yeah. Oh. Oh, wow. Hit the button. That
that
That's fantastic.
Well,
again, for another bourbon with the boys, it's
gone completely off the trail. That's gone.
(30:42):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Vaughn Payne's blackcurrant,
Steve Allen right out of Clearwater, Florida. Oh
my god. I hope Steve hears this and
hears that it's a Florida show and decides
to call in and rip us a new
one.
You know what's really good? Tom looking forward
to it. He is I think week 1,
you know, when when we regenerate these things,
(31:03):
week 1 is okay, week 2. And then
week 3 is just off the rails.
It's cyclical in nature. It's amazing how that
happens. We have a pattern.
Yeah. We have a pattern. I feel like
we need to re rearrange the order when
these are released.
We could. Yeah. I feel like it's time
to wrap this up and eat some of
Tom's crack.
(31:23):
Yep.
Woah.
That did this
This went very democratic
very quick.
So this is the LGBTQ
portion of Bourbon with the boys
cracking off.
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