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Welcome.
It with the bull. We forget burn a
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new Cd. Felt like you bumped the table
again, Tom. I didn't bump through tape. Was
you. Had nothing to do. It was all
you.
Just me or there a little like scratch
in that record. Yeah. You know nice it's
tom bump the tape. Know their a thing
you bump the table table in a skip.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of
Bourbon with the boys. Right here. Where... This
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last week. Where where imperfections or what make
Real reality
It is the house. Yeah yeah.
1 perfection. Go world. We've got a we've
got a great 1 in front of us
today. This is a this is a bourbon
pick by, Tom. Tom, Tom went over to
the to the old storage shelves right there,
here in studio. I did. And and grabbed
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this 1. So we're gonna be, grabbing 1
of whistle pigs,
1 of their offerings that they put out
there. Now, this is a fun 1 to
talk about. Now a little bit about Whistle
pig, you know, it whistle pig is up
in Vermont
is, where they help from, they are rye
whiskey. So this is not a bourbon. This
is a rye whiskey, I screwed up. Tom.
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Hell Yeah. No. I'm gonna this 1. But
but this is... But they're all about the
last week. They're all about rye and the
fun thing with whistle pig is they, you
know, they talk about...
That dis filler was left in ruins after
prohibition. Oh, really. And nobody was making it,
and so a bunch of rye enthusiasts got
together. And they said, you know what? Rye
whiskey is what made America. And not necessarily
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bourbon. Bourbon was born out a rye. Right.
Right.
But but, yeah, that ride whiskey is what
made America, and we wanna get back in.
And since since it was left all but
dead, we don't have to be behold in.
To any pass taste, anything that are there,
we can just make it make it own.
Okay. And that's what they did and And
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1 of the things I love, the, owner
of, whistle pig, dis,
manned by the name of Dave. Picker roll.
He was the original bastard dis s there,
up in Whistle pig is
he has 1 of my favorite
quotes,
out of bourbon or out of out of
the whole whiskey
arena. He said I'm okay with making mistakes
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because in my industry,
you still drink your mistakes.
My god. Then I feel like that's a
kind kinda of guy. We could had right
here on... Yeah. I'm thinking we need to
have him on on the world. Yeah. I
am... We're gonna have to require the services
of a few extra people we're we're gonna
have him on,
because he went to the great dis in
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the sky back in 20 18. Oh, okay.
He passed.
He masked away. I'm Get the Luigi more.
I am very excited about this because as
much as I have heard about Whistle pig
and people talk about. I have never actually
had whistleblower pig. So what's pig does a
lot of experimental
things with their brands. So... And when we
talk about experimental brands,
you know, Basil hay knob Creek out of
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gym beam, those are considered,
experimental brands, be... And what they mean with
an experimental brand is when they're Kind of
breaking industry norms and doing a lot of,
unique stuff. So 1 of my favorite
rise to get every year. Usually, I usually
find it about Christmas time is,
whistle pig
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20. It's a 20 year old
and they usually do something different. You know,
they had the black prints,
about gosh, 6, 7 years ago,
There was the history of magellan that was
redone in Rome.
There was,
oh, man. I'm,
spirit of,
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shoot. You know, on the on the on
the... No. No. I don't know. No my
Man,
Mind or something like that. Yet. Anyway, no,
but they... But they do a lot of
experimental brands and experimenting with their with their
oldest. And
some of them really great.
Some of them just not in my flavor
profile. Yeah does like To say. Yeah. Hey.
I don't wanna contradict you here, but this
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says that this is a bur.
This is not... A Aw.
It's it's
yeah. They they're.
So... Are you guys gonna find as a
matter of fact. It even says on the
back, the perfect pairing to back 1 percent
right. Are you gonna fight? Right. So... No.
No. So now here's a unique neat thing
about the 1 that that
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that Tom picked.
If is it's the whistle pig piggy piggyback.
Right? So it's a it's a 6 year
old. It is bourbon. I I apologize. It
is bourbon.
But really, what happened with this 1 and
and what's unique about it is,
the whole concept behind it is is
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Dave
said, hey, I wanna create
a...
I mean, obviously, before he passed. Right?
He's
I don't say Best always you guys wrestle
the mind out this.
But, yeah, he he said he he had
a dream of creating an aged dry specifically
for cocktail use.
And that's what he wanted to do with
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Piggyback. He wanted to... This is specifically meant
for
mixing first,
built first as a cocktail whiskey. Right? Okay?
Right. So something to be mixed to make
your old fashioned to make your manhattan,
you know, to make your other mixed drinks
with,
and is a sipping rice second. Right? So
second second a sip,
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first as a as a mixed Right? Or
as I like to say, you know, at
first, it's it's meant to be, you know,
like a maker's or a wood fur or,
you know, something with a diet coke. Gotcha.
No. I I joke. I joke. But don't
But, even even all way down to your
stuff. No. When you when you think about,
fantastic bottle. The bottle itself was made with
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the bart community in mind. Right? The bottle
itself was made.
Meant to be easy to grab and get
hold of, easy to pour.
Right? It was meant for bartender. So think
about you know, think about trying to pour
this compared to what we did with the
will it pot still. Yeah. That's pain. Okay.
Yeah. I thought I the most challenging bottle
to pour over the last several weeks.
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Really, I I think Had to do more
with let's be all do. I thought it
was interesting that Guy raised his anger. That.
Yeah.
Most of time bartender are not pouring that
will it talk. It's 8 all just in
pouring
mix all. So Yeah. So cool. Other things
to, to keep in mind that's that's fun
to note and think about with the with
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the Whistleblower piggy piggyback, because it did come
out after his past. So it was something
that he did before he went on.
You know, it is a... It is an
age 6 year mark. But if you look
on it, they have the dates 19 56
to 20 18 on there, being that was
his birth and death year. Oh, okay. And
then another unique thing that they did with
this is when you get whistle pig, it's
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always a pig.
Wearing a, top hat.
Well, the top hat is gone on this
1, and he's actually wearing a s
because that's what Day Picker roll always wore.
Okay. Was a S. Well, yee very nice.
A little throwback to him. So up in
Vermont, it it's out of a dairy farm,
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an old dairy barn that was condemned,
and they brought back. It's
So again, this is,
it roughly runs around a 96 proof,
it first released back in April 20 19.
Yes. So it... They put a hundred proof
on it. So let's just keep going and
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knocking everything down.
The proof that I'm reading off here is
actually done, in second. It is aged 6
years.
And love copy. Yeah. Just want you to
know that I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
We're we're we're gonna we're just... We're, you
know what? We're gonna take a little freaking
break love it. On that when I get
these people under control. How about that? Good.
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So there are 3 numbers there. And he's
right.
I supposed to your breakdown. Yeah. Let's get
there. Hold on.
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Now back to Bourbon with the boys.
So we're we're back. We're talking about whistle
pig, piggyback, bourbon. Bourbon. 96 group. Yeah. No
a hundred groups in a roof whatever. Whatever.
02:20. Or 1.
Is.
So anyway...
Yeah. That's what it is. It's it is
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the W pig piggyback bourbon.
I did have a little bit of my
story mixed up because I was talking about
the the about about the rye. So I
I wanna say this.
None of us researched it. Yeah. Yeah
at least you tried. Yeah.
Guys I tried. I did try. Yeah. Ain't
got most of it.
Well, no. No. So the funny thing is
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is the bourbon is not as as widely
known or widely talked about. And this is
actually the oldest bourbon that whistle pig has
put out. Yeah. But during as much as
I have heard about Whistle. I did not
know they actually made a bourbon. I knew
Yep. It was alright. So that's why I
then I looked at this bottle and it
says, this is this is bourbon.
And I didn't even know they made a
bourbon. So, yeah. Pleasant surprise.
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Yep. So
so here it is. It's... Well, We'll go
ahead. We'll we'll take a little sniff test
of it. We'll we'll see what we get
and where we come back from, and
you know, I'm so excited to do a...
Cocktail forward
bourbon. Movie where we go who's doing the
loud sniff.
Hawkins
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I hate to tell you, but it smells
like a 96 degree.
Yeah.
I see. I get a lot of...
Sweetness off of this. Maple sweet maple bolt
Maple syrup c. It's freaking for this. Yeah.
Vermont. Maple
shocking. Yep. Maple Vanilla,
yeah.
Shocking.
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Even what,
It's good. Like some
cl and spice definitely in there,
all mixed in. Yeah. You can tell there's
not a high. I mean, they're still high
rin.
Oh, yeah. There's.
Right. It's... Yeah I was I'm I'm Trying
to look be riley word. I don't see
in the Nashville. I don't see a match
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bill at all, but but... Yeah. This is...
I mean, if Whistle pig is made for
known for Rye.
This is definitely high rye. It's probably... Oh,
59 core earth... I'm sorry,
51 corn,
which makes it bourbon, and the rest is
right
How how is that split define? Let's get
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it safe. What's the math on that? 51.
It's, like 51 corn 51 Rye? No
Well, what kinda match what you're doing? Did
you count the 20 20 election or what?
I got you know, I gotta tell you.
I get 2 the 50 ones. I mean,
on the on the nose, I get a
a lot of
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a lot of a maple...
I I get that. There's a little bit
of richness
in here.
But, honestly, I think,
Think there's more to it than I anticipated.
I I kinda I'll be... I'm be honest.
It's it's their first it's their first bourbon.
It's a 6 year old. I was being
a little sn, thinking, nah. What can they
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what can they really do. Right? But
I think they they surprised me. I mean,
there's... You get that maple again and brown
sugar?
Right?
And definitely
has that long, long
finish.
Right? And I I think that's what I
really enjoy the most about it. Yeah. I
like it.
I like it. I'm I'm gonna start buying
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some whistle pig now.
Get a little more oak in there, and
see, I'm not huge on oak. I'm not...
You know, like, a lot of people want
the double o. They want all of that.
That's just not. That's It like that's...
That is the signature to me of
Wood.
Which wood first not terrible?
But Wood is... Has a unique flavor compared
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to anything else. I I got. I actually
like. I like this a lot. Yeah.
I'm not water delta. I'm gonna I'm gonna
drop a couple of little
little little drops of water in there see
what else I can
I can get from it? 1 more time,
Bobby, 3 weeks in a row, what thinking
the pipe at, the pipe at.
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You'll get there eventually tops. Yeah,
at probably 4 or 5 weeks. So, yeah,
I'll get...
And you look like you're struggling at getting
those drops out. Yeah. I'm I'm doing good.
That was that was 3 drops. Exactly. I
don't know. I don't know if you noticed
it was 3 drops. I didn't know.
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The number. It was calibrated.
Sorry. That was a little monty python in
there for for those of you that are
like Skyler and never watched a freaking moving
in your life.
Yep. Unless no idea what you're talking about.
Yeah. The only movie Skyler Ever seen have
S snl cast in it and mostly Will
ferrell. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Like is Con
or Will movie.
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While they're there start after movies... So first
Skyler, Will Ferrell kinda like the God of
movies because in the beginning, there was Will
Ferrell and in the end, there was Will
Ferrell. News.
There's Bell brooks. No
Bell brooks gotta have. Yeah. Will Ferrell has,
like, 5 good goodwill now. Bell brooks was
that brave heart there.
Yeah. Something like that, and out something like
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that. There you go.
Hey. Hey. I think the fiftieth anniversary of
blazing saddle is coming up soon. I think
it was already passed. I think it was
is is it already passed I think it
was... Was this year. Yeah. I think it
was earlier this year. Well, I've always been
scared to see that. Are you serious?
Well, yeah, because that was the name of
a gay r in des moines.
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So back to the Bourbon guys.
I like who would to file that name
my
Yeah.
And back to the bourbon that's, like brown
sugar with a little cl and spice.
Also names of all people starring at the
bro
blazing satellite. Blazing saddle into moines owl.
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You know, It does kinda track that Skyler
would know where the gable r that's
does.
Do you know where that gave bar is
in for Long?
Natalie Not a clue. Not a clue. Tyler.
But des moines.
Listen, I don't know where the gay bar
is, but I am willing to learn.
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Spoken by the man that's recently single.
He just want somebody to imo dream. Yeah.
Yeah. I pretty much at this point in
my live absolutely. If you're buying I drink,
I don't care.
I think it's... I think it's decided now.
I'm not coming first sleep over Gem ever.
Live
I find your terms acceptable.
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Oh, so I, you know, I gotta tell
you. I
I'm impressed. I I... I'm certainly impressed with
with the whistle pig, Skyler, what do you
what do you think? It's it's about your
age, 6.
That I love it. Yeah. That's exactly. It's
wonderful. No. Actually, it's it's good.
It's got a lot... It does have that
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maple flavor. Big ton. Yeah. Yeah
I think it's
I'll give it
out the last 3 we've done. I'll say
this is number 2.
0, wow. Okay. Yeah. So so now... Again,
it was
it it, you know, decidedly made to be
a cocktail
bourbon. So, not just a sipping bourbon. Well,
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I mean, No. It's okay to be a
shipping bourbon, but it was... I mean, the
the original intent. So
do... Do you think it... You would... You
could... Could you see it in an old
fashioned or something like that. Sure. Absolutely. But
I'm I'm I'm good just sipping it too.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm... Prize with the
complexity that it brings Tom. I, on the
same way. I think it I think it's
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got great taste. I think I don't think
it's really harsh.
No. Not at all. And. It it... It's
very smooth.
I'm I'm surprised that it's developed as a
as a cocktail.
Mh. Drink because,
yeah. Like Skyler, I'd I I drink it
just just sipping it too. Yeah. Yeah. And
the thing is is he, you know, he
built it. Specifically to be a cocktail drink,
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which means every bar out there is probably
charging a premium to to mess with it.
Yeah.
That jj... Yeah. You want whistle begin that?
Yeah. 30 dollars. Absolutely
Absolutely. Thank you for stopping at Chai Henry.
Sorry, minute it. Yeah.
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Jim, your your thoughts on it. I do
like Jill Just. We don't need for you.
Yeah
I feel like the water actually took a
little to finish away from it. Yeah. I
I can see that. It did ease to
finish, but I felt that it opened up
the the pallet on it a little more,
and I got a little more,
about a little more of the oak, a
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little more of the
baking spice and cl. Like, a cl really
came out in it with a little bit
of water to me. Yeah. I get the
cl. With the water, Absolutely. Yeah. Can I
can get the glove? Tom, you and I
just don't have the knowledge.
We're we're we're too novice to to go
into...
Descriptions like that. Oh, no. Which is what
you what you need to do? Bow flag
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like Jim do. Oh no.
What you need to do is you you
need to start doing, like, like Jim does,
you know, like, oh, the palette it really
opened up the palette. I got cl and
baking spot all the cloves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah
yeah.
Around around baking soda in there juice, sir.
I say Har.
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Alright.
Well, so there you go, Whistle pig, piggyback,
numbers today. 8866
year old 6. I gotta tell you. It
one's is a surprising. Yeah. 100 proof for
improve. That's 3 numbers. Okay.
We'll let it go, Tom.
It says a hundred percent on the back.
I don't really know what that means.
Sure. Let's go with that. Hundred percent American
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made, I think.
But I don't know. I don't wanna talk
anymore around you guys because
God forbid. I get 1 thing wrong.
I was still.
Yeah
Hey, at least we could cows. Yeah.
What about so Which 1 y'all are bringing
the bourbon next week?
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As.
As it comes to mind that I'm paying
for everything there.
For us of evil partners. Is that a
bad thing? Yeah.
Not for you. No. It's not.
It sounds like a win win. I was
I was told that was smart. Yeah.
See It's told smart. You know realize it
it's marked again, and the old country his
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name was Masa masonic wit.
Ski stein berg.
Steam.
Alright. I he knows the book of Genesis
quite well. Would bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe
maybe the new rule should be if you
pick it, you have to talk about it.
Oh, is that it? Yeah. No. We'll be
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here. Be fair, and now we'll be here
all night.
Tom, was your family originally from New York?
And they were. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is that
it shows? Is that fig figure figure the
bronx?
Yeah. Now the bronx the long Island.
Even more jewish.
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Alright. Alright. Just spit ball,
somebody in your family owned a dry cleaner.
Maybe.
Alright. We're gonna get out of here before
we get any more racist.
Put us on the view? Let's talk to
those winner? That's right. I'm all yeah.
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I'd love to get Bring on Whoop.
I give whoop be a run for money.
Alright. Well, here we go, Folks. Whistle pig.
Again, this 1 price point,
you know, I don't. Yeah Hell. I don't
know. I I lost it. I lost it.
He's a brand honor jim. Yeah.
So, you know what? Somewhere in the price
range of 30 and 60 bucks. How about
that?
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The working is it's available. It's available. It's
available. It's again, great. A great. You know,
I think 1 day in the future sure
if we do a a cocktail rendition of
this, I I would love to see this
in a in an old fashioned. I think
we need to do in old fashioned. Yeah.
Themed 1 That would be fine. That would
be fine. Yeah. So... Alright. Well, hey. Thanks
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for stopping by, and there'll be more to
come at some point.
Sweet.
Yeah. That the right button here. Yeah.
There we go. That's that's that's a that's
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