December 10, 2025 • 48 mins
This week on Branded & Booked, we're reflecting and celebrating the year of 2025.
Since moving to Florida, we’ve stepped into a whole new level of alignment. Finding our people, building community through in-person events, and calling in opportunities that feel more expansive and intentional than ever.
And with the year wrapping up, we’re also sharing some big life updates:
✨ Kailee buying her first home
✨ Tina entering into a new, beautiful relationship
In this episode, we talk about:
- How much can transform when you’re aligned with your environment
- The power of community and showing up locally
- Why celebrating your wins is a business strategy
- How we’re expanding, evolving, and dreaming even bigger for 2026
- Slowing down enough to feel proud of the work you’ve already done
Whether your year felt fast, slow, messy, or magickal — this conversation is your reminder to pause, reflect, and give yourself credit for the growth you’ve lived through.
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Special thanks to my OBM, Andrea: dreamlifeconnection.com
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Tina Floersch (00:00):
And this transition into like the end of
the year for that slowness hasreally pushed us to sit back and
and look at what we've done andand like the space to daydream
and think about like what do wewant to do next year?
(00:26):
We are already Freddy.
I do it every day that I'm here.
Hi.
Kailee Nauman (00:38):
Hi.
Tina Floersch (00:39):
Wow.
Wow.
Full circle.
Kailee Nauman (00:42):
Full circle moment.
Um, welcome back to Branded andBucked.
Welcome to the last episode of2025.
Jesus.
Tina Floersch (00:55):
Insane.
Kailee Nauman (00:56):
Tina and I are currently uh hanging out down by
the coast.
Um, it is the day we'rerecording, it's small business
Saturday.
So it feels like we'recelebrating ourselves this
weekend.
I know.
Tina Floersch (01:11):
I know.
We were talking about how thisparticular room that we're in
was when we started was it likethe first time I was like
full-time on here?
Something like that.
Kailee Nauman (01:24):
I started having you on more episodes.
Tina Floersch (01:27):
But it was like literally in this room when I
first moved down to Florida.
It was kind of like when wereally got serious about me
being on the podcast.
And that's gonna be two yearsin February.
How?
We're eye twitching a littlebit, like, wait a minute.
And we're at my parents' house,and I came and stayed with them
while I waited for my apartmentto be ready up near Orlando.
(01:51):
Um, we're down south by FortMyers.
Um, and this is literally theroom that I would be on Zoom
when we were re recording ourpodcast episodes.
Kailee Nauman (02:02):
It's so special.
It's funny too that we'retalking about this because I was
kind of cleaning out.
I'm doing like a little bit ofa clean out of all my digital
files, especially like in Canva,because I have so much client
stuff in there and Canva files.
Canva's a mess.
It's a lot of mess.
But I found a video of us andwe had recorded and just looking
(02:22):
at like the energy, even theway we look, it just feels so
long ago.
You know, I feel like we've hadFlorida's given us a true
glow-up.
Tina Floersch (02:35):
For real.
It really has.
I was kind of journaling aboutit today.
Her Kaylee and I were talkingabout like stuff for the net for
next year and kind of whatFlorida has been for us.
And it's just been more than Iever could have anticipated.
I wrote in my journal uh rebirthand soul alignment.
(02:58):
You're gonna love the card Ipulled.
Kailee Nauman (03:00):
Yeah.
We I brought one deck uh forTina and I to pull from this
weekend, and it's the Muse Tarotdeck.
And I love so the reason I evengrabbed this deck, I was
actually with my mom in Coloradoat a crystal shop.
And I don't usually buy tarotdecks for myself unless like
(03:20):
they really catch my eye.
But I saw this one and for somereason immediately thought of
Tina when I saw it.
And then when I was reading theback of it, it said like the
key theme of it was it being aneclectic card deck.
And I was like, okay, this isthis is a me and Tina deck.
So it's been, yeah, Florida'sbeen amazing, and this weekend
(03:45):
has been really nice.
It's just Tina and I.
And so we're having a we'venever done like a girls' weekend
like this.
Like we're like, what?
Um, but totally hang out allthe time.
It just feels like feels likewe're doing girls' weekends all
the time.
But it just feels good.
We've been brainstorming, we'vebeen reflecting, we've been
sitting a lot in silence andjust like taking it in, I feel
(04:07):
like, taking life in.
And wow, this year, even thoughwe're like, wow, it's December,
how did the year go by so fast?
I also feel like so much hashappened this year.
And it's been life-changing.
So exciting.
Before we dive into everything,today's episode is going to be
(04:29):
just a reflection, a rewind.
We're gonna do a little bit ofreflecting.
We're hoping that this episodealso encourages you to do some
reflecting within your businessand life and where you're at,
where you want to go, daydream alittle bit.
I daydream all the time.
It's my favorite.
And we're just gonna bewrapping up what happened in
(04:51):
2025 and talking a little bitabout 2026, you know, what
intentions we want to set.
And I think this will be funfor us because then next year we
can come back and listen tothis episode and then be like,
what are the differences?
I know, it's gonna be so cool.
Um, I'm gonna let Tina go firstwith her card.
Tina Floersch (05:08):
Oh, okay.
So I pulled the fool.
Uh, keywords, a new journey,beginnings, trusting the
universe, a time for optimism,not knowing what's coming,
naivete, needing to learn newskills, analysis, paralysis, and
a leap of faith.
(05:29):
Prompt, uncertain beauty.
She hums a tune she used toknow, and with baited wishes,
she leaps into an abyss of starsand possibility, thoughts
eager, hearts racing, hopeshigh.
A million bits of coloredstandards, a million bits of
colored stardust.
(05:49):
Okay, standards.
Standards.
Oh.
Wow.
Anyway, colored stardust iswhat it says.
Rise up to meet her and shegreets myth and opportunity as
she tumbles forward.
She sees her future here inthis beautiful swirl of light
and potential.
What are you searching for?
asks the muse.
Something brave, she whispers,something new.
(06:12):
For the briefest of moments,she feels unprepared, naive,
unsure, foolish.
She asks herself, she asksherself, Are you ready for this?
Can you take this journey?
And the muse wants her toremember that she is and she
can.
She wants her to believe in hermagic.
As she leaps, she leans deeperinto trust and begins to hum
(06:32):
once more.
A song that sounds differentthis time around, grander, epic
even.
The notes vibrate the spacearound her, and her new path
begins to unfold, leavingnothing to do but begin.
Fearlessly jump into the sea ofthe cosmos.
The spinning potentials arecalling, maybe a little foolish
today, yet better done fool-likethan stalling.
(06:55):
And the car depicts this woman.
It looks like it's like partdesert, part nebula.
And there's a she's likewalking, she's like up in
elevated in the air, goingtowards a sun.
There's a ladder in the bottomright corner or in the bottom
(07:16):
left corner.
So it looks like she literallylike leaped up off this ladder,
is going through a desert intothe sun split into a nebula.
It's really pretty.
Wow.
Kailee Nauman (07:30):
I wish everybody could see the smile on my face.
Listening to you read it, I'mlike, oh.
Tina Floersch (07:36):
I know.
When I pulled it, I started, Ionly read like the the the like
words at the beginning, and Iwas like, Yep.
Yep.
This is exactly and per usual,I'll take pictures of these and
these will be posted on ourInstagram.
Kailee Nauman (07:49):
So I feel like it's a little bit rare that
we've been pulling from the samedeck.
I know, we don't normally pullfrom the same deck, or it's been
a minute.
Yeah, talk about some unity.
I know.
Um, so mine is Seven ofMaterials, which I'm excited to
see what that one is.
The card itself is reallypretty, and it's interesting.
(08:11):
So I'm reading a book right nowthat uh Tina recommended to me
called Heartless, and it's withall of the Alice in Wonderland
characters, and the card itselfis a woman in like combat boots,
but they're untied, and she'slike looking down at them, but
(08:31):
she's on this striped path.
It looks like maybe she waswalking towards you, and there's
roses all over the place.
Tina Floersch (08:39):
Oh, yeah, it is very like Alice and Wonderland.
Kailee Nauman (08:41):
Yeah, there's roses in the background.
She's holding a bouquet.
It looks like a weddingbouquet.
I'm still engaged.
We're not making much planswith the wedding, but we'll say
why here soon.
Um, but it looks like you know,all the roses are there.
She's holding on to thebouquet.
She's in what looks like a typeof wedding dress.
(09:02):
It's very Alice in Wonderland.
So I'm very interested as towhat this is gonna be.
And of course, it's I fellasleep listening to the book
last night.
So definitely spot on fortheming.
So it says seven of materials,a pause, assessing your
(09:24):
progress, perseverance, the longgame, investment, manifesting
for the future, gratitude, anddiligence.
The prom says a sacred plateau.
Well in your journey, there aremoments meant for rethinking,
re-establishing, andredirecting.
(09:44):
Stepping onto her timeline, shewaits patiently, poised to reap
the rewards she sowed in thepast.
And she knows they are almostready.
Her gut tells her, her hands,weary from toil, tell her.
Her heart tells her she knows.
In the lucidity of the pause,she realizes that her lace has
(10:05):
come undone.
She ties it slowly, knowing itwould have tripped her in the
future had she not taken noticenow.
She's grateful, graceful,mindful, and she's moving
through the reverberations.
Reverberations.
Yes, thank you, of yesterday'sthoughts and actions.
While sending out tomorrow'sreality with love, energy, and
(10:29):
intention.
She invites you to step intothe liminal space with her.
This plateau serves as abeautiful break to breathe and
take stock.
You've come so far, and yourbeautiful roses are almost here.
When the muse pauses yourtimeline, relax.
When she slows the clock, waitfor her.
(10:49):
When she disappears from sight,revel in all the creation to
come.
Tina Floersch (10:58):
You guys, we do not plan these cards.
No.
They are chosen at random.
They'd be speaking to us.
They that holy cow.
The like the new beginnings tothe like taking a pause is wow.
It's just, it's literallyeverything that we've been
(11:21):
talking about, even not evenlike this weekend, but we have
both been in a very transitionalphase of pause.
There's been, you know, theholidays, and we've had a we had
a lot going on in November.
And um, and with our birthdays,and it just is like always this
(11:43):
time of year.
There's just a lot going onbetween your birthday in
September, mine in October, andthen November was busy.
We had EDC, a lot of changes uhin general on top of the
holidays.
And her and I like really havebeen talking about this, like
(12:04):
we've both kind of been in anunintentional period of
slowness.
And it feels like a theme forthis year too.
It's like it's it's busy andthen it's slow, and then it's
busy and then it's slow.
And this transition into likethe end of the year for that
slowness has really pushed us tosit back and and look at what
(12:30):
we've done and and like thespace to daydream and think
about like what do we want to donext year, and like
appreciating what Florida hasbeen for us and this transition
and what the communities we'vebeen involved in.
And I was telling her yesterdaythat like I love Denver.
(12:53):
Denver was a very specialplace.
I'm originally from Minnesota,um, and I moved to Denver in
2017, and it was the first timeI'd ever moved away from home,
and it was like it was such abeautiful like first time away
from home.
And I loved Denver.
I loved being in the mountain,like near the mountains, and it
(13:15):
was good.
And then being here, it hasjust been everything and more of
what I kind of hoped I I wouldhave found more of in Denver.
Like the community and thediversity and the the small
(13:36):
businesses and the and thecommunity around the small
businesses and theentrepreneurs, like people out
here just want to help otherpeople.
Yeah.
And it's just such a beautiful,like symbiotic world in Orlando
specifically.
Right.
Kailee Nauman (13:53):
A couple of times when I would visit Florida, I
didn't know what to expectliving here because you know,
Florida's vast, it's such a bigstate.
And there are, you know, someareas where you're like, would I
love living here?
I don't know.
Like there's this, there's thesmall beach towns, there's the
pockets of like suburban cities,and it's really interesting.
(14:17):
But the amount of people thatwe've both met that are from all
over the world, I think that'ssomething that has really
inspired me being here.
And I told Tina, like, I lovepeople.
I'm fascinated by them.
I love to hear their stories,their life journeys.
It motivates me, it inspiresme, it allows me to get in touch
(14:38):
with empathy and just a lot ofwho I am as a person.
Like, I love human connection.
And just people from othercountries live here.
And my neighbors, I've had onesfrom the Bahamas, from Ohio,
from like all over the place,Puerto Rico.
There's a lot of people fromPuerto Rico where we live.
(15:00):
So it's been exciting and funand new.
Whereas like I feel likeDenver, I was telling Tina,
like, since I was there thewhole time, it's a city, it's a
pretty big city.
But when you live there thewhole time, it becomes pretty
small.
And you always know somebodythat knows somebody, and it gets
kind of like clicky in a sense.
(15:20):
Everybody kind of either stayswithin the people they hung out
with in high school and theydon't really branch out, or if
they do branch out, it's it's aninteresting energy.
And I think with the seasons inDenver, when you were talking,
there's this sense of busynessbecause all the busyness happens
(15:41):
with like the end of spring,summer, and end of fall.
Yeah, you're working with thewarm weather versus the cold.
Whereas like here, things feelslower.
I feel like I don't need to runa mile.
I feel like I can walk a mileand still be okay.
Yeah.
And that feels really nice.
It was very uncomfortable forme.
(16:01):
Very uncomfortable.
I tell Tina all the time, Ifeel like I'm just like, I'm
itchy.
Like I feel itchy in my skin.
Like I think this year, comingto the end, I feel again like
I'm in a cocoon and I'm like,I'm uncomfortable.
I'm like ready.
I'm ready to spread my wings.
I'm ready to, but I needed todo this work.
And it was so abrupt.
(16:22):
Like we talked about this whenI first moved here.
It was scary for me.
And it was dark.
I was dealing with a lot ofshadows when I first moved down
here, and that was really hardfor me.
But now that I I'm on the otherside and I feel so aligned with
where I'm going and the thingsthat have been happening.
I told Tina the other day, Iwas like, ooh, I manifested
(16:45):
hard.
And I'm like exactly where Iwanted to be.
Yeah.
And like slow the fuck down.
Yeah.
Just be here.
Just enjoy, like sit and drinkyour coffee and just stare off
into space and again, daydreamand be, you know, happy for
(17:08):
where you're at.
Like we're still so young.
I just turned 30 and I'm like,I have so much life to live.
I've been looking at people whowere twice my age around me.
And I'm just like, I have somuch of my journey to continue
on.
Tina Floersch (17:23):
100%.
And that's the beauty of beingdown here, too, is like it just
my mom always told me that she'slike, it just is a slower pace.
People operate at a slower pacedown here.
Like whenever I'd come andvisit, because my parents have
lived here for a while now.
So um it just kind of wasalways like, I don't know how
you people, I don't know how youdo it.
Like, what do you mean?
(17:43):
And now that I'm in it, I'mlike, oh no, this works really
well for me because everybodyelse that we've encountered,
maybe it's not always like this,but like the people that we've
encountered and the communitiesthat we've been in, people are
very just like like slow andintentional and not really in a
(18:07):
rush, which can kind of drive menuts sometimes when it comes to
like getting client work, butit always ends up working out
the way it's supposed to.
Right.
And it's just a beautifulthing.
And like as a reflector withhuman design, my like my thing
is waiting 30 days before makinga decision.
(18:29):
Oh, and I like yeah, reflectorsgo by the phase of the moon.
And so waiting 30 days, like afull moon, is like one of the
ways that I'm supposed to beoperating.
And when I the more that I dothat living out here, the more
it pays off.
(18:49):
Like it has been, it's beenreally nice to be in a space
that really truly supports that.
Wow.
Kailee Nauman (18:58):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
And now I'm just likemind-blown because we go to new
moon and full moon yoga withJanie and Ignite your flow down
here.
Wow.
That's amazing.
So that means every time we goto yoga, you get that moment of
reflection.
Tina Floersch (19:16):
That's why I love going to yoga now, like with
her and just specifically doingthe new moon, full moon, because
they're like really greatcheck-ins for me and supporting
like my human design.
Kailee Nauman (19:30):
Fascinating.
Tina Floersch (19:31):
Um, what is it?
The uh I'm trying to remember.
Oh, this is not my chart.
You're like, wait a minute.
Nailed it.
It's like, what is thecategory?
Anyway, I'll I'll find it.
Um, the strategy.
(19:51):
That's what it's what that'swhat it's specifically called is
my strategy as a reflector iswaiting a lunar cycle.
Kailee Nauman (19:59):
Wow.
Tina Floersch (20:00):
Specifically, that's what it says.
Kailee Nauman (20:02):
Well, I know what I'm doing when we get off this
podcast.
I'm diving into mine.
I astrology has been really funfor me over the years, and I've
been able to connect with a lotof people that live their life
through astrology, which hasbeen so cool.
Uh, but with Tina being in mylife, I've been learning a
little bit more about humandesign.
And I'm a manifestinggenerator, which 10,000% makes
(20:25):
sense.
Like when I look back on myentire life, I'm like, oh, yep,
manifested that, manifestedthat.
And the life I'm sitting inright now manifested that.
Um, I used to have a jar when Iwas in high school.
I was like obsessed with theocean in high school.
Like I'd sit on Tumblr and Iwould be like reposting all the
like inkable ocean stuff.
(20:46):
But I had a jar that said, Ipainted on this glass jar that I
thrifted and it said to theocean.
And I would just put coins init because I was like, I'm
saving my money to go visit theocean.
Like I felt so called, which Ithink a lot of my Pisces was
like, girl, you need some oceanin your life.
But it's been magical, and I'mso happy.
(21:07):
You know, I was so hesitant tomove down here when Zach first
brought it up.
And him and I actually livedapart from each other for three
months.
He moved down to Florida earlyjust because, like, I um one, I
wasn't ready to go.
I was like, oh my friends, likeresistance.
I have so I was so resistant.
I was like, I have so manyfriends here.
(21:28):
And I get it.
It's your first time movingaway from home.
Tina Floersch (21:31):
Yeah, it felt it was a big decision for me, too.
Kailee Nauman (21:34):
Yeah, it felt scary, but I'm glad I had you in
my life because you gave methat it's gonna be hard, but
you're gonna be okay.
And I kept reminding myself,like, worst case scenario, I
move back home.
I can always move back home ifI want to.
Tina Floersch (21:47):
So that's what my parents told me when I first
was considering moving toColorado.
They're like, yeah, it's it'sit costs money, but like you can
always move back.
And I'm like, you fuckingright.
Kailee Nauman (21:57):
You fucking right.
But I'm I'm so glad we moveddown here.
And I uh tell we're makingfriends down here, which has
been so nice.
And I love when it I told Tinathe other day, I was like, her
and I are like a power couple.
Like when we go out together,I'm like, I just feel like very
empowered.
Like you you make me feel likemy higher self.
And so when we're around peopleand we're introducing ourselves
(22:19):
and we're like, yeah, Tina andKaylee, we do the same thing, we
do business together.
I love seeing people's faces.
We're like, oh, what do you do?
I'm like the same.
They're like, oh yeah, it makesme so happy.
And you moving down here was sohelpful because our friendship
like was still very new when youmoved down here.
Super new.
(22:40):
And it just was this for somereason, like I think it was deep
rooted in both of us that wewere like we should probably
connect more.
Like we should build on thisrelationship.
And so Tina moving down herewas like such a saving grace for
me because Tina is my neighbor,and so the fact that like if
I'm having a hard day or justneed some girl time or need
(23:00):
someone who just gets it, likework-wise, I could just walk on
over and then spend some timewith you.
So I'm so glad you moved downhere too, because it is just
opening so many doors, and yeah,it's been exciting.
Tina Floersch (23:16):
There's always stuff to do.
Like we went to this coffeefestival.
Let me tell you incredible.
I I was running into people,like I it was unreal.
And one of the other, one ofthe vendors, he was like, Oh, I
was hoping you'd be here.
And I'm like, special.
That's so, yeah, that's sospecial.
(23:38):
And then there's like one guythat I keep running into who's
like Bendy Yoga, and he likejust he just like ran up to me,
not even knowing he didn't evenlike uh recognize me at first.
I looked at him and I was like,uh hey, and he's like, Oh my
god, hey, it's like we what didhe say to you?
Because we live in the samecity or something.
(23:59):
He was pretty funny about it,yeah.
But it's just little momentslike that, and I ended up
connecting with him and givinghim my business card, and like
it is just everybody wants tohelp everybody around here.
Yeah, the events are just justthere's so much to do all year
round, right?
Kailee Nauman (24:17):
Well, and Tina and I were talking about because
you know, we've done episodeson this of like how to market
yourself as a business and stufflike that.
And Tina and I would just sittogether and we look back,
especially me.
I used to be very, veryprominent on social media, and I
have always continued to feelthis pressure that I need to be
(24:38):
on there again, be on there alot.
I love we met on Instagram, youknow.
Like I make amazing friendshipson Instagram.
I love it, I thrive over there.
But there was somethingmissing, and Tina and I kept
talking, I think wasn't it ayear ago where we were like,
what do we want to do in the newyear?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Last year we sat down and wewere like, what do we want?
(24:59):
And then we both agreed.
We were like, we want in-personcommunity.
And it has just happened.
Like we're sitting here today,like, oh my gosh, we're fine, we
found our community.
And it's just growing.
And the things we're going to,and I think it's really telling
when like you and I can go docommunity things separately too.
(25:22):
Because it's so easy to justlean on each other and go
everywhere with each other.
But to be like, okay, well, I'mgonna go do this tonight.
And I'm like, okay, have fun.
I wish I was going.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's that's a special thingtoo, because then it's like we
just feel comfortable with allthe people that we're bringing
in and calling in, and they'reall good people, and they're
(25:43):
also good, cute little souls.
Like it's just so fun.
Tina Floersch (25:48):
Beautiful people, and like us going to separate
events, it's just like sometimesit's sometimes it's necessary.
Like you bring a differentenergy than I do, and some
events are not meant for me, andsome events like I'm doing
photography, and so notnecessarily something that like
I need help with, or like that Ieven have the time to like be
(26:09):
networking, but it's just likethis beautiful.
It's it's just nice to haveyeah, to have this community
where both of us feelcomfortable enough to like go
and do things on our own.
Cause I think that was thething that we both talked about
when we first met was like, oh,I want to do more things, but I
hate doing them alone.
And now it's like, look at us.
Kailee Nauman (26:28):
I know we're oh my gosh, yes, we're thriving.
It's very uh it's fulfillingand it's exciting because it's
just the beginning.
Like all these relationshipsare very new, but they, you
know, they're connecting us withother people, we're connecting
with other people, and yeah,it's just so supportive.
The communities down here,instead of being like, oh, my
(26:51):
competitor, they're like, oh,we're partnering together and
it's like the same business, youknow?
Yeah.
And that's I was telling Tina,I think from COVID, a lot of us
just got so comfortable becausewe knew we could operate just
sitting from home and beingonline.
But it's time to get out, it'stime to get out into your
(27:12):
community.
It's time to I built up likesome nervousness and anxiety
around going out to places.
And that's strange for mebecause I'm an extrovert.
But I, you know, mine, I wasgetting so nervous, I was
starting to stutter again.
That's like a habit I had as akid.
Like when I was so nervous, Iwould stutter a little bit.
(27:34):
And I found myself doing it,but it's like, okay, it's just
like anything else.
Practice makes perfect.
I gotta exercise this.
That's why when people say, Ohmy gosh, how can you guys just
show up on a podcast and talk?
It's taking practice.
You think the first coupleepisodes Tina and I did were
good?
Tina Floersch (27:51):
God, I was a hot ass mess.
The anxiety I would haveshowing up to one of those.
And then, like, I am such anoverthinker that like I didn't
know how to free flow.
Like, even this episode, we hadno plan.
You were trying to make a plan,and I was like, Kaylee, it's an
end of the year episode.
We don't need to plan anything,like, let's just free flow.
(28:14):
Me?
I said that.
What do you mean, miss?
I couldn't.
Oh my god, those firstepisodes, those first couple of
episodes, I was a hot mess.
Like, yeah, you could youprobably couldn't tell, but like
in my brain, and I would try tolike write notes beforehand,
and it just is yeah, it's takenyears of practice now.
(28:37):
And now look at me, I'm the oneadvocating for a free flow app
episode.
See, what do you mean?
Kailee Nauman (28:43):
This is why Tina and I balance each other because
when I'm like, we should playAnna, she's like, simmer down,
make another cup of coffee andgo go sit.
Put the microphone in front ofyou.
Tina Floersch (28:56):
Oh, so funny.
Kailee Nauman (28:58):
It makes me so happy.
Tina Floersch (29:00):
No, it's been just so good.
I don't know what I expected.
It really was just kind of thislike, well, fuck, why not go
live where I want a vacation?
Like, Denver's been good, butI'm over it.
And I like I really miss thewater too.
Like being from Minnesota, I'mused to like being close to
(29:20):
water.
And there's a fucking lake, andlike being around water, and I
just the greenery and thelushness, and Denver is the
desert.
Don't let the mountains arewhere the green's at.
Yeah, Denver is the desert.
Yeah.
And it's only green for likemaybe a month or two, if you're
lucky.
(29:41):
And I'm like, I missed it.
I was there for like sevenyears and I missed it.
I missed the green, I missedthe water.
I've always came out here tovacation.
And I'm like, why not livewhere I want a vacation?
And now I have a friend outthere.
Yeah.
Like it worked for me inDenver.
I moved to Denver when one ofmy friends that I met in
Minnesota moved out there.
(30:02):
And I'm like, well, it workedonce.
Why not do it again?
And so I don't know what Iexpected.
I really had no, I'm when itcomes to both of my move, well,
the first one was very plannedout.
But this one I was just like,I'm just gonna sell my house.
Thankfully, I was like, myparents lived down here and they
let me move in for a few monthswhile I waited for my apartment
to be ready.
(30:22):
So thankfully I had a lot ofthese, like you had I moved into
the same apartment complex, soI didn't even really have to do
that much scouting.
No, when she was looking, shegoes, I might I looked at one
other one.
Yeah, and I was like, no, thisisn't it.
I kept telling you too.
I was like, I don't know, Ireally love this place.
I know, but just for like myown, I was like, I just gotta
(30:42):
see what else is around there.
And then I was like, no, Idon't wanna I don't wanna do it
because it was it was cheaper,but I was like, you know what?
I'll just to be steps away inthis beautiful apartment
complex, like why not?
And I just I I would have neveranticipated Orlando being as
(31:03):
supportive and nurturing as ithas been.
Kailee Nauman (31:06):
Yeah, you know, I didn't know what to expect
either.
And it was really funny becauseI'm through and through a city
girl.
I live the city, but I feellike Orlando is that perfect
balance between the nature Ienjoy.
Again, like you said, beingclose to water and there's still
enough like outdoor activitiesand being next to the city.
Orlando is a city, it's prettysmall comparatively.
(31:28):
It's a very small city.
Like I remember driving by, andZach's like, that's the city
downtown.
I'm like, what?
I know you blink and you missit.
Those four buildings.
There's no skyscrapers.
Like, what are we talking abouthere?
But I have enjoyed it.
You know, it's Florida has beenvery, very special for me.
It has been honestly, I feellike I'm finally starting my
(31:53):
life in a way that like I wantto live my life.
I think living in Colorado, youknow, there was the the family
aspect, there was the yourhistory, like the history of
where I lived in Colorado andwhat was attached there.
Yeah.
It was, I was so ready tobranch out and I wanted to be
(32:15):
this version of myself for solong.
And some special things havehappened down here, you know.
I feel like I have a biggerappreciation for my friendships,
and I'm learning more about howto nurture them and how to keep
the ones that I love the mosteven closer and what it means to
bring people in that I want tokeep in and not feel like I have
(32:38):
to keep everyone in my lifesetting boundaries.
I've learned how to set a lotof boundaries down here.
It's easier when you'rethousands and thousands of miles
away from everybody back home.
But it's been amazing.
Um, I got engaged.
I feel like my relationship isthriving.
We are about to do somethingthat has been big on our dream
(33:02):
list.
So by the time this comes out,most likely, I think so, right?
I don't know when we'redropping.
I don't know.
We're dropping.
We're free flowing.
All right, I don't.
Um, Zach and I are getting ahouse.
You'll probably be just aboutto move in.
Yeah, we're just about toclose.
Yeah, we're getting a house, andit is our dream home.
(33:24):
Like we went through hoops andloops and somersaults and with
this house.
And it was the second house welooked at and we fell in love.
And I'll do a whole episodeabout what that's like, you
know, in 2026.
But we're anticipating it,we're so excited.
I can't wait to have Tina therein my own house, and it's just
(33:48):
been special.
And I'm just I'm 30 now, andI'm like, oh my gosh, this is
how I'm starting my 30s.
Tina Floersch (33:54):
Incredible, incredible, yeah.
And you're leaning into yourlittle manny gen life, and
you're manifesting, and I'm alsolearning to lean into that,
where it's just like, okay, I'mjust gonna speak it out loud,
and this is gonna bring itselfinto existence.
(34:15):
And I ended up meeting somebodythis year that I am obsessed
with.
I love him so much.
He is the sweetest man.
And we moved in together.
Yeah, you did.
As of last week.
And I never, you know, it'sjust it's a beautiful thing.
(34:35):
It like there was no, there wasno pressure.
It just happened naturally.
He fits in so well with my lifeand my friends, and I'm excited
that we're close because welived like two years, two, two
years.
We lived two hours away fromeach other.
So it was a little bit hard tosee each other every weekend,
(34:56):
but he's officially moved in andhe gets to experience Orlando
with me, and he's starting at ahe's a barber, and it's just
it's really fun.
It's all the things that I'vewanted and really have been
wanting for a while, and I'mexcited for that side of my life
as well.
Talk about manifesting.
Kailee Nauman (35:15):
I know I love Tina's man's.
Um he's wonderful, he'swonderful for her.
I'm excited for him to just bewhere we're all at again, and
it's always so fun when myfriends get in relationships,
and it's just to watch it bloomand meet a new person, bring a
(35:37):
new person into our friendcircle.
And he's an entrepreneur too.
Tina Floersch (35:41):
So, like he gets it, understands that side of
things, and I get to watch himblossom in his own lane and
being a barber, and he wants todo personal training and all
these other things.
It's just really fun to havesomeone to dream alongside of,
you know.
Kailee Nauman (36:01):
It's super special, and just seeing like
all of us accomplish our dreams,you know, even with Zach, my
fiance, his the whole purpose wemoved down here was for him to
work at Universal, and he'sdoing it now.
Tina Floersch (36:14):
And it's like he's working his way up to where
he wants to be.
Yeah, it's so cool.
And this is just the beginning.
I know we weren't we talk a lotabout how, like, in um I think
it's Chinese astrology, it's theyear of the snake, 2025, and
2026 is the year of the horse,and so the snake into horse
(36:37):
energy.
It's like the snake was like Imight be botching this, but like
preparation, slow intention,and then next year is like the
horse is like taken off action,put it into movement, momentum,
go.
Kailee Nauman (36:54):
Yeah, really lean into it.
And yeah, I'm excited.
You know, I think the world ischanging as well, and it's like,
how do we all slow down andembrace that?
I think that's one thing I'vebeen, you know, doing all this
research with AI and also thisholiday season has been really
interesting because I feel likeI'm very embedded in the world
(37:16):
of holiday sales and marketing,and it's just opened my mind to
be like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa,whoa, whoa.
Yes, money makes the world goround, but wow, we are just
marketing is just shoved downour throats.
And it's made me as a designerand wanting to get into the
(37:38):
space of marketing be like,okay, how can we be more
intentional with this?
How can we work and do sales ina very mindful way?
Tina Floersch (37:48):
Yeah, mindful and intention and in a again, going
back to just like thecommunity, like how can we
support those that are around usand building that that bubble
(38:08):
that right?
Kailee Nauman (38:10):
I think this is something I feel like nobody
really talks about, but it's youknow, I've consumed so much
podcasts and books andeverything, but we are exposed
to too much.
It's just the reality of it.
Our brains, if we look at likehow we've evolved, right, in our
brains, we went from notechnology and only knowing your
(38:31):
neighbors to knowing peopleacross the world and the
universe.
And there's a lot ofpsychologists out there and like
mental health advocates thatare like, our brains can't fully
comprehend.
And so I have really helpedmyself or what's helped me is
like coming back to focus onyour community around you, focus
(38:55):
on your community around youand like see what type of change
that makes.
And oftentimes, again, we goback to the ripple effect.
If we're focusing on the peoplearound us and we're, you know,
being more intentional there andwatering our flowers that are
right in front of us, likethings will grow.
We don't need we can't, youknow, take a cup of water and
(39:19):
ship it across the world andthen be like, okay, hopefully
that water waters your flowers.
Well, there's probably no waterleft because it took so long to
get there.
So being more intentional andmindful about that, I think has
been really important for me andsomething I've been
continuously reminding myselfwhen I feel like I'm not doing
enough, or I feel like I need tobe doing more.
(39:40):
And I'm like, no, you're doingenough.
I know, you're doing enough.
Tina Floersch (39:44):
I know it's just the pressure and the the how
much, like you said, it's theconsumption.
And I saw this thing the otherday where it said the average
person now consumes more data ina week than their grandparents
did in a year.
And it's Just like we're justbombarded with all of this
stuff, and it's and it's justlike taking that pressure off
(40:08):
and just being like, You onlyhave this one life.
Do what fulfills you going backto the community and how you're
nurturing those in your nextdoor to you and really focusing
on that and and putting yourenergy into that and kind of
(40:32):
shrinking our our bubbles andand not consuming as much and
putting the energy into spacesthat you can visibly watch them
grow and put them into peoplethat you can be with.
And it it's it's such a basicthing, I feel like, but I feel
(40:53):
like we've just really lost it,especially after COVID.
And it's just like everythinghas been digital, digital,
digital, grow, grow, grow.
And now it's like, okay, whoa.
Yeah, let's bring it back in.
Like we are still humans livingone life in this one world.
It I just got goosebumps, likejust slow, slow down and enjoy
(41:16):
it and be with the people thatmake you happy, fulfill fulfill
your life on a daily basis.
And it's that's just like themost important thing is and the
comparison.
Like, don't don't be comparingyourself.
Yeah, comparison eats upeverybody, you know.
Kailee Nauman (41:35):
Tina and I are the oldest, and it's been real
we talk about it a lot andwatching what journeys our
siblings go through.
And my sister's going through apretty transformational spot
right now.
And her and I were talking, andshe's only 26 and or about to
be 26.
(41:55):
Yeah, about to be 26.
And she was saying, I feelbehind, I feel like I'm not
where I'm supposed to be.
I feel, you know, and I toldher, like, you're so young.
And she goes, I know everybodykeeps telling me that.
And I'm like, then take it forwhat it is.
Like it feels like when you'reyoung, at whether you're 20 or
(42:19):
18 or 26 or even in your 30s,you feel like, oh my gosh, well,
I'm not doing this and I'm notdoing that.
And you know, I want to bedoing this or I want to be doing
that.
And it's like, you'll havetime.
You'll, you know, like perfectexample of sitting here
reflecting, looking at what youaccomplished in a year.
(42:40):
That's huge.
You know, I just I waspromoting a group mentoring, and
some of the questions I sentout was like, look at everything
you've accomplished.
Slow down, stop thinking about,oh, what am I gonna do
tomorrow?
What's gonna happen this year?
What's gonna happen next week?
And just applaud yourself, giveyourself credit for everything
(43:03):
you've already done.
And that's not justbusiness-wise, no, that's your
health-wise.
Have you been working on yourphysical, mental well-being,
mind, body, soul?
Have you been working on andfiguring out like what works in
my work life versus myfriendships?
(43:23):
Tina's Tina's sweet girl peachesjust came up the stairs.
Slobbering up the woodenstairs.
Oh, you woke up from your nap.
Tina Floersch (43:31):
Okay, good morning.
You were good morning.
We were so cool.
Kailee Nauman (43:34):
You're gonna be a star guest today.
I don't think we've talkedabout you on the podcast much.
Oh my god.
Anyways, she was outside takinga cat nap, but now she's like,
um, hello.
Tina Floersch (43:48):
Attention to me.
You guys have been gone for 45minutes.
What is happening?
Kailee Nauman (43:56):
Anyways, I was trying to get with that.
Just like, you know, don'tforget to applaud yourself,
don't forget to celebrateyourself.
Tina Floersch (44:03):
Yeah.
And I think we talk about thata lot.
And it's it's something thatyou and I have really focused on
a lot this year.
And I think that's where a lotof the growth and the confidence
has come from.
Like really taking thosemoments to acknowledge, pat
yourself on the yourself on theback, and being like, okay, what
(44:25):
else can I do?
Kailee Nauman (44:27):
Yes.
Yeah.
Seeing it as like opportunityfor what's next.
Tina Floersch (44:31):
And not forcing it, like doing things that feel
right.
Like you and I have had likewhat we're gonna be doing next
year is stuff that we've talkedabout since you and I first met.
And it just hasn't been thetime.
And we've tried, we've we'veput it, we've put things
together, and it just isn't it,it just never came together.
(44:52):
And you and I have just kind oftaken a step back of like,
okay, if it's not gonna cometogether effortlessly, we're not
gonna force it.
And I think that's a big pieceof of life too, is just like
setting the intention,manifesting, and not forcing it.
If it's supposed to be, it'llbe.
Kailee Nauman (45:11):
And like I'm thinking about yesterday, Tina
and I were doing a puzzle, andyou're not gonna force a puzzle
piece into a spot and then walkaway because then you can't put
the rest of the puzzle pieces inthere.
Like exactly it, you gotta beintentional with it.
And if it fits, it fits.
If it doesn't, it doesn't.
And being okay with letting go,yeah, that has been a huge
(45:33):
lesson for me to be like, youknow, I just that's it's not it
anymore.
You know, I'm making somereally big shifts in my business
for next year, and there's justa lot of aspects that I was
like, I want to do it this way,I need to do it this way.
And finally I sat down withTina the other day and I was
like, I can't, I can't do itthis way.
(45:56):
I've been trying to for threeor four years, and it's just
not, there's certain things inmy business that aren't working,
and being okay to be like,that's all right.
Let it go.
Yeah, who knows?
What can I do differently?
Yeah, you know.
Oh well, friends.
I think that's a great place toend that.
Tina Floersch (46:17):
Yeah, happy end of the year, 2025.
Oh, wow.
I hope you take some time toreflect.
Make a list of things you'veaccomplished, make a list of
things you want to accomplishnext year.
And oh my gosh, treat yourself.
Honestly.
Kailee Nauman (46:37):
Whatever that looks like to you, do it.
Yes, do it.
Take care of your little self.
Yeah.
I I'm not a gift giver, so whenit's the holiday seasons and
everybody's like, oh my god,holiday gifts, I'm like, I
don't.
No, I I have removed myselffrom that expectation.
But I usually do treat myselfat the end of the year, like me
(46:57):
and Tina doing this weekendtogether.
It could be as simple as that,like having a girls' weekend, or
maybe you just need a day byyourself.
A little sweet treat.
Doesn't have to be much.
Well, we love you guys.
We're sending just so much goodenergy.
And thanks for being with usthis year.
Yeah, it's been a wild ride.
We appreciate just all thesupport for the people we've had
(47:21):
on the podcast this year.
It's been so good.
Thank you to our guests.
Holy cow.
Oh my god, the guests.
We need to do a little guestrecap.
Yeah, we do.
That'll probably be how westart January because you'll
listen to them and you're like,wow, this was a great episode,
but go back and listen to them.
Like, there is just someepisodes throughout this year
that golden nugget after goldennugget.
Tina Floersch (47:42):
And you know, maybe we got a few guests lined
up for next year.
Kailee Nauman (47:46):
So we're just getting started.
Yeah, baby.
All right, we'll see you all in2026.
You can find me, Kaylee,everywhere at
eclecticdesigns.co.
Tina Floersch (47:58):
You can find me, Tina, everywhere at visualflow.
And our final sign off fortwenty twenty.
Kailee Nauman (48:05):
Bye.
And this transition into like the end of
the year for that slowness hasreally pushed us to sit back and
and look at what we've done andand like the space to daydream
and think about like what do wewant to do next year?
(00:26):
We are already Freddy.
I do it every day that I'm here.
Hi.
Kailee Nauman (00:38):
Hi.
Tina Floersch (00:39):
Wow.
Wow.
Full circle.
Kailee Nauman (00:42):
Full circle moment.
Um, welcome back to Branded andBucked.
Welcome to the last episode of2025.
Jesus.
Tina Floersch (00:55):
Insane.
Kailee Nauman (00:56):
Tina and I are currently uh hanging out down by
the coast.
Um, it is the day we'rerecording, it's small business
Saturday.
So it feels like we'recelebrating ourselves this
weekend.
I know.
Tina Floersch (01:11):
I know.
We were talking about how thisparticular room that we're in
was when we started was it likethe first time I was like
full-time on here?
Something like that.
Kailee Nauman (01:24):
I started having you on more episodes.
Tina Floersch (01:27):
But it was like literally in this room when I
first moved down to Florida.
It was kind of like when wereally got serious about me
being on the podcast.
And that's gonna be two yearsin February.
How?
We're eye twitching a littlebit, like, wait a minute.
And we're at my parents' house,and I came and stayed with them
while I waited for my apartmentto be ready up near Orlando.
(01:51):
Um, we're down south by FortMyers.
Um, and this is literally theroom that I would be on Zoom
when we were re recording ourpodcast episodes.
Kailee Nauman (02:02):
It's so special.
It's funny too that we'retalking about this because I was
kind of cleaning out.
I'm doing like a little bit ofa clean out of all my digital
files, especially like in Canva,because I have so much client
stuff in there and Canva files.
Canva's a mess.
It's a lot of mess.
But I found a video of us andwe had recorded and just looking
(02:22):
at like the energy, even theway we look, it just feels so
long ago.
You know, I feel like we've hadFlorida's given us a true
glow-up.
Tina Floersch (02:35):
For real.
It really has.
I was kind of journaling aboutit today.
Her Kaylee and I were talkingabout like stuff for the net for
next year and kind of whatFlorida has been for us.
And it's just been more than Iever could have anticipated.
I wrote in my journal uh rebirthand soul alignment.
(02:58):
You're gonna love the card Ipulled.
Kailee Nauman (03:00):
Yeah.
We I brought one deck uh forTina and I to pull from this
weekend, and it's the Muse Tarotdeck.
And I love so the reason I evengrabbed this deck, I was
actually with my mom in Coloradoat a crystal shop.
And I don't usually buy tarotdecks for myself unless like
(03:20):
they really catch my eye.
But I saw this one and for somereason immediately thought of
Tina when I saw it.
And then when I was reading theback of it, it said like the
key theme of it was it being aneclectic card deck.
And I was like, okay, this isthis is a me and Tina deck.
So it's been, yeah, Florida'sbeen amazing, and this weekend
(03:45):
has been really nice.
It's just Tina and I.
And so we're having a we'venever done like a girls' weekend
like this.
Like we're like, what?
Um, but totally hang out allthe time.
It just feels like feels likewe're doing girls' weekends all
the time.
But it just feels good.
We've been brainstorming, we'vebeen reflecting, we've been
sitting a lot in silence andjust like taking it in, I feel
(04:07):
like, taking life in.
And wow, this year, even thoughwe're like, wow, it's December,
how did the year go by so fast?
I also feel like so much hashappened this year.
And it's been life-changing.
So exciting.
Before we dive into everything,today's episode is going to be
(04:29):
just a reflection, a rewind.
We're gonna do a little bit ofreflecting.
We're hoping that this episodealso encourages you to do some
reflecting within your businessand life and where you're at,
where you want to go, daydream alittle bit.
I daydream all the time.
It's my favorite.
And we're just gonna bewrapping up what happened in
(04:51):
2025 and talking a little bitabout 2026, you know, what
intentions we want to set.
And I think this will be funfor us because then next year we
can come back and listen tothis episode and then be like,
what are the differences?
I know, it's gonna be so cool.
Um, I'm gonna let Tina go firstwith her card.
Tina Floersch (05:08):
Oh, okay.
So I pulled the fool.
Uh, keywords, a new journey,beginnings, trusting the
universe, a time for optimism,not knowing what's coming,
naivete, needing to learn newskills, analysis, paralysis, and
a leap of faith.
(05:29):
Prompt, uncertain beauty.
She hums a tune she used toknow, and with baited wishes,
she leaps into an abyss of starsand possibility, thoughts
eager, hearts racing, hopeshigh.
A million bits of coloredstandards, a million bits of
colored stardust.
(05:49):
Okay, standards.
Standards.
Oh.
Wow.
Anyway, colored stardust iswhat it says.
Rise up to meet her and shegreets myth and opportunity as
she tumbles forward.
She sees her future here inthis beautiful swirl of light
and potential.
What are you searching for?
asks the muse.
Something brave, she whispers,something new.
(06:12):
For the briefest of moments,she feels unprepared, naive,
unsure, foolish.
She asks herself, she asksherself, Are you ready for this?
Can you take this journey?
And the muse wants her toremember that she is and she
can.
She wants her to believe in hermagic.
As she leaps, she leans deeperinto trust and begins to hum
(06:32):
once more.
A song that sounds differentthis time around, grander, epic
even.
The notes vibrate the spacearound her, and her new path
begins to unfold, leavingnothing to do but begin.
Fearlessly jump into the sea ofthe cosmos.
The spinning potentials arecalling, maybe a little foolish
today, yet better done fool-likethan stalling.
(06:55):
And the car depicts this woman.
It looks like it's like partdesert, part nebula.
And there's a she's likewalking, she's like up in
elevated in the air, goingtowards a sun.
There's a ladder in the bottomright corner or in the bottom
(07:16):
left corner.
So it looks like she literallylike leaped up off this ladder,
is going through a desert intothe sun split into a nebula.
It's really pretty.
Wow.
Kailee Nauman (07:30):
I wish everybody could see the smile on my face.
Listening to you read it, I'mlike, oh.
Tina Floersch (07:36):
I know.
When I pulled it, I started, Ionly read like the the the like
words at the beginning, and Iwas like, Yep.
Yep.
This is exactly and per usual,I'll take pictures of these and
these will be posted on ourInstagram.
Kailee Nauman (07:49):
So I feel like it's a little bit rare that
we've been pulling from the samedeck.
I know, we don't normally pullfrom the same deck, or it's been
a minute.
Yeah, talk about some unity.
I know.
Um, so mine is Seven ofMaterials, which I'm excited to
see what that one is.
The card itself is reallypretty, and it's interesting.
(08:11):
So I'm reading a book right nowthat uh Tina recommended to me
called Heartless, and it's withall of the Alice in Wonderland
characters, and the card itselfis a woman in like combat boots,
but they're untied, and she'slike looking down at them, but
(08:31):
she's on this striped path.
It looks like maybe she waswalking towards you, and there's
roses all over the place.
Tina Floersch (08:39):
Oh, yeah, it is very like Alice and Wonderland.
Kailee Nauman (08:41):
Yeah, there's roses in the background.
She's holding a bouquet.
It looks like a weddingbouquet.
I'm still engaged.
We're not making much planswith the wedding, but we'll say
why here soon.
Um, but it looks like you know,all the roses are there.
She's holding on to thebouquet.
She's in what looks like a typeof wedding dress.
(09:02):
It's very Alice in Wonderland.
So I'm very interested as towhat this is gonna be.
And of course, it's I fellasleep listening to the book
last night.
So definitely spot on fortheming.
So it says seven of materials,a pause, assessing your
(09:24):
progress, perseverance, the longgame, investment, manifesting
for the future, gratitude, anddiligence.
The prom says a sacred plateau.
Well in your journey, there aremoments meant for rethinking,
re-establishing, andredirecting.
(09:44):
Stepping onto her timeline, shewaits patiently, poised to reap
the rewards she sowed in thepast.
And she knows they are almostready.
Her gut tells her, her hands,weary from toil, tell her.
Her heart tells her she knows.
In the lucidity of the pause,she realizes that her lace has
(10:05):
come undone.
She ties it slowly, knowing itwould have tripped her in the
future had she not taken noticenow.
She's grateful, graceful,mindful, and she's moving
through the reverberations.
Reverberations.
Yes, thank you, of yesterday'sthoughts and actions.
While sending out tomorrow'sreality with love, energy, and
(10:29):
intention.
She invites you to step intothe liminal space with her.
This plateau serves as abeautiful break to breathe and
take stock.
You've come so far, and yourbeautiful roses are almost here.
When the muse pauses yourtimeline, relax.
When she slows the clock, waitfor her.
(10:49):
When she disappears from sight,revel in all the creation to
come.
Tina Floersch (10:58):
You guys, we do not plan these cards.
No.
They are chosen at random.
They'd be speaking to us.
They that holy cow.
The like the new beginnings tothe like taking a pause is wow.
It's just, it's literallyeverything that we've been
(11:21):
talking about, even not evenlike this weekend, but we have
both been in a very transitionalphase of pause.
There's been, you know, theholidays, and we've had a we had
a lot going on in November.
And um, and with our birthdays,and it just is like always this
(11:43):
time of year.
There's just a lot going onbetween your birthday in
September, mine in October, andthen November was busy.
We had EDC, a lot of changes uhin general on top of the
holidays.
And her and I like really havebeen talking about this, like
(12:04):
we've both kind of been in anunintentional period of
slowness.
And it feels like a theme forthis year too.
It's like it's it's busy andthen it's slow, and then it's
busy and then it's slow.
And this transition into likethe end of the year for that
slowness has really pushed us tosit back and and look at what
(12:30):
we've done and and like thespace to daydream and think
about like what do we want to donext year, and like
appreciating what Florida hasbeen for us and this transition
and what the communities we'vebeen involved in.
And I was telling her yesterdaythat like I love Denver.
(12:53):
Denver was a very specialplace.
I'm originally from Minnesota,um, and I moved to Denver in
2017, and it was the first timeI'd ever moved away from home,
and it was like it was such abeautiful like first time away
from home.
And I loved Denver.
I loved being in the mountain,like near the mountains, and it
(13:15):
was good.
And then being here, it hasjust been everything and more of
what I kind of hoped I I wouldhave found more of in Denver.
Like the community and thediversity and the the small
(13:36):
businesses and the and thecommunity around the small
businesses and theentrepreneurs, like people out
here just want to help otherpeople.
Yeah.
And it's just such a beautiful,like symbiotic world in Orlando
specifically.
Right.
Kailee Nauman (13:53):
A couple of times when I would visit Florida, I
didn't know what to expectliving here because you know,
Florida's vast, it's such a bigstate.
And there are, you know, someareas where you're like, would I
love living here?
I don't know.
Like there's this, there's thesmall beach towns, there's the
pockets of like suburban cities,and it's really interesting.
(14:17):
But the amount of people thatwe've both met that are from all
over the world, I think that'ssomething that has really
inspired me being here.
And I told Tina, like, I lovepeople.
I'm fascinated by them.
I love to hear their stories,their life journeys.
It motivates me, it inspiresme, it allows me to get in touch
(14:38):
with empathy and just a lot ofwho I am as a person.
Like, I love human connection.
And just people from othercountries live here.
And my neighbors, I've had onesfrom the Bahamas, from Ohio,
from like all over the place,Puerto Rico.
There's a lot of people fromPuerto Rico where we live.
(15:00):
So it's been exciting and funand new.
Whereas like I feel likeDenver, I was telling Tina,
like, since I was there thewhole time, it's a city, it's a
pretty big city.
But when you live there thewhole time, it becomes pretty
small.
And you always know somebodythat knows somebody, and it gets
kind of like clicky in a sense.
(15:20):
Everybody kind of either stayswithin the people they hung out
with in high school and theydon't really branch out, or if
they do branch out, it's it's aninteresting energy.
And I think with the seasons inDenver, when you were talking,
there's this sense of busynessbecause all the busyness happens
(15:41):
with like the end of spring,summer, and end of fall.
Yeah, you're working with thewarm weather versus the cold.
Whereas like here, things feelslower.
I feel like I don't need to runa mile.
I feel like I can walk a mileand still be okay.
Yeah.
And that feels really nice.
It was very uncomfortable forme.
(16:01):
Very uncomfortable.
I tell Tina all the time, Ifeel like I'm just like, I'm
itchy.
Like I feel itchy in my skin.
Like I think this year, comingto the end, I feel again like
I'm in a cocoon and I'm like,I'm uncomfortable.
I'm like ready.
I'm ready to spread my wings.
I'm ready to, but I needed todo this work.
And it was so abrupt.
(16:22):
Like we talked about this whenI first moved here.
It was scary for me.
And it was dark.
I was dealing with a lot ofshadows when I first moved down
here, and that was really hardfor me.
But now that I I'm on the otherside and I feel so aligned with
where I'm going and the thingsthat have been happening.
I told Tina the other day, Iwas like, ooh, I manifested
(16:45):
hard.
And I'm like exactly where Iwanted to be.
Yeah.
And like slow the fuck down.
Yeah.
Just be here.
Just enjoy, like sit and drinkyour coffee and just stare off
into space and again, daydreamand be, you know, happy for
(17:08):
where you're at.
Like we're still so young.
I just turned 30 and I'm like,I have so much life to live.
I've been looking at people whowere twice my age around me.
And I'm just like, I have somuch of my journey to continue
on.
Tina Floersch (17:23):
100%.
And that's the beauty of beingdown here, too, is like it just
my mom always told me that she'slike, it just is a slower pace.
People operate at a slower pacedown here.
Like whenever I'd come andvisit, because my parents have
lived here for a while now.
So um it just kind of wasalways like, I don't know how
you people, I don't know how youdo it.
Like, what do you mean?
(17:43):
And now that I'm in it, I'mlike, oh no, this works really
well for me because everybodyelse that we've encountered,
maybe it's not always like this,but like the people that we've
encountered and the communitiesthat we've been in, people are
very just like like slow andintentional and not really in a
(18:07):
rush, which can kind of drive menuts sometimes when it comes to
like getting client work, butit always ends up working out
the way it's supposed to.
Right.
And it's just a beautifulthing.
And like as a reflector withhuman design, my like my thing
is waiting 30 days before makinga decision.
(18:29):
Oh, and I like yeah, reflectorsgo by the phase of the moon.
And so waiting 30 days, like afull moon, is like one of the
ways that I'm supposed to beoperating.
And when I the more that I dothat living out here, the more
it pays off.
(18:49):
Like it has been, it's beenreally nice to be in a space
that really truly supports that.
Wow.
Kailee Nauman (18:58):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
And now I'm just likemind-blown because we go to new
moon and full moon yoga withJanie and Ignite your flow down
here.
Wow.
That's amazing.
So that means every time we goto yoga, you get that moment of
reflection.
Tina Floersch (19:16):
That's why I love going to yoga now, like with
her and just specifically doingthe new moon, full moon, because
they're like really greatcheck-ins for me and supporting
like my human design.
Kailee Nauman (19:30):
Fascinating.
Tina Floersch (19:31):
Um, what is it?
The uh I'm trying to remember.
Oh, this is not my chart.
You're like, wait a minute.
Nailed it.
It's like, what is thecategory?
Anyway, I'll I'll find it.
Um, the strategy.
(19:51):
That's what it's what that'swhat it's specifically called is
my strategy as a reflector iswaiting a lunar cycle.
Kailee Nauman (19:59):
Wow.
Tina Floersch (20:00):
Specifically, that's what it says.
Kailee Nauman (20:02):
Well, I know what I'm doing when we get off this
podcast.
I'm diving into mine.
I astrology has been really funfor me over the years, and I've
been able to connect with a lotof people that live their life
through astrology, which hasbeen so cool.
Uh, but with Tina being in mylife, I've been learning a
little bit more about humandesign.
And I'm a manifestinggenerator, which 10,000% makes
(20:25):
sense.
Like when I look back on myentire life, I'm like, oh, yep,
manifested that, manifestedthat.
And the life I'm sitting inright now manifested that.
Um, I used to have a jar when Iwas in high school.
I was like obsessed with theocean in high school.
Like I'd sit on Tumblr and Iwould be like reposting all the
like inkable ocean stuff.
(20:46):
But I had a jar that said, Ipainted on this glass jar that I
thrifted and it said to theocean.
And I would just put coins init because I was like, I'm
saving my money to go visit theocean.
Like I felt so called, which Ithink a lot of my Pisces was
like, girl, you need some oceanin your life.
But it's been magical, and I'mso happy.
(21:07):
You know, I was so hesitant tomove down here when Zach first
brought it up.
And him and I actually livedapart from each other for three
months.
He moved down to Florida earlyjust because, like, I um one, I
wasn't ready to go.
I was like, oh my friends, likeresistance.
I have so I was so resistant.
I was like, I have so manyfriends here.
(21:28):
And I get it.
It's your first time movingaway from home.
Tina Floersch (21:31):
Yeah, it felt it was a big decision for me, too.
Kailee Nauman (21:34):
Yeah, it felt scary, but I'm glad I had you in
my life because you gave methat it's gonna be hard, but
you're gonna be okay.
And I kept reminding myself,like, worst case scenario, I
move back home.
I can always move back home ifI want to.
Tina Floersch (21:47):
So that's what my parents told me when I first
was considering moving toColorado.
They're like, yeah, it's it'sit costs money, but like you can
always move back.
And I'm like, you fuckingright.
Kailee Nauman (21:57):
You fucking right.
But I'm I'm so glad we moveddown here.
And I uh tell we're makingfriends down here, which has
been so nice.
And I love when it I told Tinathe other day, I was like, her
and I are like a power couple.
Like when we go out together,I'm like, I just feel like very
empowered.
Like you you make me feel likemy higher self.
And so when we're around peopleand we're introducing ourselves
(22:19):
and we're like, yeah, Tina andKaylee, we do the same thing, we
do business together.
I love seeing people's faces.
We're like, oh, what do you do?
I'm like the same.
They're like, oh yeah, it makesme so happy.
And you moving down here was sohelpful because our friendship
like was still very new when youmoved down here.
Super new.
(22:40):
And it just was this for somereason, like I think it was deep
rooted in both of us that wewere like we should probably
connect more.
Like we should build on thisrelationship.
And so Tina moving down herewas like such a saving grace for
me because Tina is my neighbor,and so the fact that like if
I'm having a hard day or justneed some girl time or need
(23:00):
someone who just gets it, likework-wise, I could just walk on
over and then spend some timewith you.
So I'm so glad you moved downhere too, because it is just
opening so many doors, and yeah,it's been exciting.
Tina Floersch (23:16):
There's always stuff to do.
Like we went to this coffeefestival.
Let me tell you incredible.
I I was running into people,like I it was unreal.
And one of the other, one ofthe vendors, he was like, Oh, I
was hoping you'd be here.
And I'm like, special.
That's so, yeah, that's sospecial.
(23:38):
And then there's like one guythat I keep running into who's
like Bendy Yoga, and he likejust he just like ran up to me,
not even knowing he didn't evenlike uh recognize me at first.
I looked at him and I was like,uh hey, and he's like, Oh my
god, hey, it's like we what didhe say to you?
Because we live in the samecity or something.
(23:59):
He was pretty funny about it,yeah.
But it's just little momentslike that, and I ended up
connecting with him and givinghim my business card, and like
it is just everybody wants tohelp everybody around here.
Yeah, the events are just justthere's so much to do all year
round, right?
Kailee Nauman (24:17):
Well, and Tina and I were talking about because
you know, we've done episodeson this of like how to market
yourself as a business and stufflike that.
And Tina and I would just sittogether and we look back,
especially me.
I used to be very, veryprominent on social media, and I
have always continued to feelthis pressure that I need to be
(24:38):
on there again, be on there alot.
I love we met on Instagram, youknow.
Like I make amazing friendshipson Instagram.
I love it, I thrive over there.
But there was somethingmissing, and Tina and I kept
talking, I think wasn't it ayear ago where we were like,
what do we want to do in the newyear?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Last year we sat down and wewere like, what do we want?
(24:59):
And then we both agreed.
We were like, we want in-personcommunity.
And it has just happened.
Like we're sitting here today,like, oh my gosh, we're fine, we
found our community.
And it's just growing.
And the things we're going to,and I think it's really telling
when like you and I can go docommunity things separately too.
(25:22):
Because it's so easy to justlean on each other and go
everywhere with each other.
But to be like, okay, well, I'mgonna go do this tonight.
And I'm like, okay, have fun.
I wish I was going.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's that's a special thingtoo, because then it's like we
just feel comfortable with allthe people that we're bringing
in and calling in, and they'reall good people, and they're
(25:43):
also good, cute little souls.
Like it's just so fun.
Tina Floersch (25:48):
Beautiful people, and like us going to separate
events, it's just like sometimesit's sometimes it's necessary.
Like you bring a differentenergy than I do, and some
events are not meant for me, andsome events like I'm doing
photography, and so notnecessarily something that like
I need help with, or like that Ieven have the time to like be
(26:09):
networking, but it's just likethis beautiful.
It's it's just nice to haveyeah, to have this community
where both of us feelcomfortable enough to like go
and do things on our own.
Cause I think that was thething that we both talked about
when we first met was like, oh,I want to do more things, but I
hate doing them alone.
And now it's like, look at us.
Kailee Nauman (26:28):
I know we're oh my gosh, yes, we're thriving.
It's very uh it's fulfillingand it's exciting because it's
just the beginning.
Like all these relationshipsare very new, but they, you
know, they're connecting us withother people, we're connecting
with other people, and yeah,it's just so supportive.
The communities down here,instead of being like, oh, my
(26:51):
competitor, they're like, oh,we're partnering together and
it's like the same business, youknow?
Yeah.
And that's I was telling Tina,I think from COVID, a lot of us
just got so comfortable becausewe knew we could operate just
sitting from home and beingonline.
But it's time to get out, it'stime to get out into your
(27:12):
community.
It's time to I built up likesome nervousness and anxiety
around going out to places.
And that's strange for mebecause I'm an extrovert.
But I, you know, mine, I wasgetting so nervous, I was
starting to stutter again.
That's like a habit I had as akid.
Like when I was so nervous, Iwould stutter a little bit.
(27:34):
And I found myself doing it,but it's like, okay, it's just
like anything else.
Practice makes perfect.
I gotta exercise this.
That's why when people say, Ohmy gosh, how can you guys just
show up on a podcast and talk?
It's taking practice.
You think the first coupleepisodes Tina and I did were
good?
Tina Floersch (27:51):
God, I was a hot ass mess.
The anxiety I would haveshowing up to one of those.
And then, like, I am such anoverthinker that like I didn't
know how to free flow.
Like, even this episode, we hadno plan.
You were trying to make a plan,and I was like, Kaylee, it's an
end of the year episode.
We don't need to plan anything,like, let's just free flow.
(28:14):
Me?
I said that.
What do you mean, miss?
I couldn't.
Oh my god, those firstepisodes, those first couple of
episodes, I was a hot mess.
Like, yeah, you could youprobably couldn't tell, but like
in my brain, and I would try tolike write notes beforehand,
and it just is yeah, it's takenyears of practice now.
(28:37):
And now look at me, I'm the oneadvocating for a free flow app
episode.
See, what do you mean?
Kailee Nauman (28:43):
This is why Tina and I balance each other because
when I'm like, we should playAnna, she's like, simmer down,
make another cup of coffee andgo go sit.
Put the microphone in front ofyou.
Tina Floersch (28:56):
Oh, so funny.
Kailee Nauman (28:58):
It makes me so happy.
Tina Floersch (29:00):
No, it's been just so good.
I don't know what I expected.
It really was just kind of thislike, well, fuck, why not go
live where I want a vacation?
Like, Denver's been good, butI'm over it.
And I like I really miss thewater too.
Like being from Minnesota, I'mused to like being close to
(29:20):
water.
And there's a fucking lake, andlike being around water, and I
just the greenery and thelushness, and Denver is the
desert.
Don't let the mountains arewhere the green's at.
Yeah, Denver is the desert.
Yeah.
And it's only green for likemaybe a month or two, if you're
lucky.
(29:41):
And I'm like, I missed it.
I was there for like sevenyears and I missed it.
I missed the green, I missedthe water.
I've always came out here tovacation.
And I'm like, why not livewhere I want a vacation?
And now I have a friend outthere.
Yeah.
Like it worked for me inDenver.
I moved to Denver when one ofmy friends that I met in
Minnesota moved out there.
(30:02):
And I'm like, well, it workedonce.
Why not do it again?
And so I don't know what Iexpected.
I really had no, I'm when itcomes to both of my move, well,
the first one was very plannedout.
But this one I was just like,I'm just gonna sell my house.
Thankfully, I was like, myparents lived down here and they
let me move in for a few monthswhile I waited for my apartment
to be ready.
(30:22):
So thankfully I had a lot ofthese, like you had I moved into
the same apartment complex, soI didn't even really have to do
that much scouting.
No, when she was looking, shegoes, I might I looked at one
other one.
Yeah, and I was like, no, thisisn't it.
I kept telling you too.
I was like, I don't know, Ireally love this place.
I know, but just for like myown, I was like, I just gotta
(30:42):
see what else is around there.
And then I was like, no, Idon't wanna I don't wanna do it
because it was it was cheaper,but I was like, you know what?
I'll just to be steps away inthis beautiful apartment
complex, like why not?
And I just I I would have neveranticipated Orlando being as
(31:03):
supportive and nurturing as ithas been.
Kailee Nauman (31:06):
Yeah, you know, I didn't know what to expect
either.
And it was really funny becauseI'm through and through a city
girl.
I live the city, but I feellike Orlando is that perfect
balance between the nature Ienjoy.
Again, like you said, beingclose to water and there's still
enough like outdoor activitiesand being next to the city.
Orlando is a city, it's prettysmall comparatively.
(31:28):
It's a very small city.
Like I remember driving by, andZach's like, that's the city
downtown.
I'm like, what?
I know you blink and you missit.
Those four buildings.
There's no skyscrapers.
Like, what are we talking abouthere?
But I have enjoyed it.
You know, it's Florida has beenvery, very special for me.
It has been honestly, I feellike I'm finally starting my
(31:53):
life in a way that like I wantto live my life.
I think living in Colorado, youknow, there was the the family
aspect, there was the yourhistory, like the history of
where I lived in Colorado andwhat was attached there.
Yeah.
It was, I was so ready tobranch out and I wanted to be
(32:15):
this version of myself for solong.
And some special things havehappened down here, you know.
I feel like I have a biggerappreciation for my friendships,
and I'm learning more about howto nurture them and how to keep
the ones that I love the mosteven closer and what it means to
bring people in that I want tokeep in and not feel like I have
(32:38):
to keep everyone in my lifesetting boundaries.
I've learned how to set a lotof boundaries down here.
It's easier when you'rethousands and thousands of miles
away from everybody back home.
But it's been amazing.
Um, I got engaged.
I feel like my relationship isthriving.
We are about to do somethingthat has been big on our dream
(33:02):
list.
So by the time this comes out,most likely, I think so, right?
I don't know when we'redropping.
I don't know.
We're dropping.
We're free flowing.
All right, I don't.
Um, Zach and I are getting ahouse.
You'll probably be just aboutto move in.
Yeah, we're just about toclose.
Yeah, we're getting a house, andit is our dream home.
(33:24):
Like we went through hoops andloops and somersaults and with
this house.
And it was the second house welooked at and we fell in love.
And I'll do a whole episodeabout what that's like, you
know, in 2026.
But we're anticipating it,we're so excited.
I can't wait to have Tina therein my own house, and it's just
(33:48):
been special.
And I'm just I'm 30 now, andI'm like, oh my gosh, this is
how I'm starting my 30s.
Tina Floersch (33:54):
Incredible, incredible, yeah.
And you're leaning into yourlittle manny gen life, and
you're manifesting, and I'm alsolearning to lean into that,
where it's just like, okay, I'mjust gonna speak it out loud,
and this is gonna bring itselfinto existence.
(34:15):
And I ended up meeting somebodythis year that I am obsessed
with.
I love him so much.
He is the sweetest man.
And we moved in together.
Yeah, you did.
As of last week.
And I never, you know, it'sjust it's a beautiful thing.
(34:35):
It like there was no, there wasno pressure.
It just happened naturally.
He fits in so well with my lifeand my friends, and I'm excited
that we're close because welived like two years, two, two
years.
We lived two hours away fromeach other.
So it was a little bit hard tosee each other every weekend,
(34:56):
but he's officially moved in andhe gets to experience Orlando
with me, and he's starting at ahe's a barber, and it's just
it's really fun.
It's all the things that I'vewanted and really have been
wanting for a while, and I'mexcited for that side of my life
as well.
Talk about manifesting.
Kailee Nauman (35:15):
I know I love Tina's man's.
Um he's wonderful, he'swonderful for her.
I'm excited for him to just bewhere we're all at again, and
it's always so fun when myfriends get in relationships,
and it's just to watch it bloomand meet a new person, bring a
(35:37):
new person into our friendcircle.
And he's an entrepreneur too.
Tina Floersch (35:41):
So, like he gets it, understands that side of
things, and I get to watch himblossom in his own lane and
being a barber, and he wants todo personal training and all
these other things.
It's just really fun to havesomeone to dream alongside of,
you know.
Kailee Nauman (36:01):
It's super special, and just seeing like
all of us accomplish our dreams,you know, even with Zach, my
fiance, his the whole purpose wemoved down here was for him to
work at Universal, and he'sdoing it now.
Tina Floersch (36:14):
And it's like he's working his way up to where
he wants to be.
Yeah, it's so cool.
And this is just the beginning.
I know we weren't we talk a lotabout how, like, in um I think
it's Chinese astrology, it's theyear of the snake, 2025, and
2026 is the year of the horse,and so the snake into horse
(36:37):
energy.
It's like the snake was like Imight be botching this, but like
preparation, slow intention,and then next year is like the
horse is like taken off action,put it into movement, momentum,
go.
Kailee Nauman (36:54):
Yeah, really lean into it.
And yeah, I'm excited.
You know, I think the world ischanging as well, and it's like,
how do we all slow down andembrace that?
I think that's one thing I'vebeen, you know, doing all this
research with AI and also thisholiday season has been really
interesting because I feel likeI'm very embedded in the world
(37:16):
of holiday sales and marketing,and it's just opened my mind to
be like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa,whoa, whoa.
Yes, money makes the world goround, but wow, we are just
marketing is just shoved downour throats.
And it's made me as a designerand wanting to get into the
(37:38):
space of marketing be like,okay, how can we be more
intentional with this?
How can we work and do sales ina very mindful way?
Tina Floersch (37:48):
Yeah, mindful and intention and in a again, going
back to just like thecommunity, like how can we
support those that are around usand building that that bubble
(38:08):
that right?
Kailee Nauman (38:10):
I think this is something I feel like nobody
really talks about, but it's youknow, I've consumed so much
podcasts and books andeverything, but we are exposed
to too much.
It's just the reality of it.
Our brains, if we look at likehow we've evolved, right, in our
brains, we went from notechnology and only knowing your
(38:31):
neighbors to knowing peopleacross the world and the
universe.
And there's a lot ofpsychologists out there and like
mental health advocates thatare like, our brains can't fully
comprehend.
And so I have really helpedmyself or what's helped me is
like coming back to focus onyour community around you, focus
(38:55):
on your community around youand like see what type of change
that makes.
And oftentimes, again, we goback to the ripple effect.
If we're focusing on the peoplearound us and we're, you know,
being more intentional there andwatering our flowers that are
right in front of us, likethings will grow.
We don't need we can't, youknow, take a cup of water and
(39:19):
ship it across the world andthen be like, okay, hopefully
that water waters your flowers.
Well, there's probably no waterleft because it took so long to
get there.
So being more intentional andmindful about that, I think has
been really important for me andsomething I've been
continuously reminding myselfwhen I feel like I'm not doing
enough, or I feel like I need tobe doing more.
(39:40):
And I'm like, no, you're doingenough.
I know, you're doing enough.
Tina Floersch (39:44):
I know it's just the pressure and the the how
much, like you said, it's theconsumption.
And I saw this thing the otherday where it said the average
person now consumes more data ina week than their grandparents
did in a year.
And it's Just like we're justbombarded with all of this
stuff, and it's and it's justlike taking that pressure off
(40:08):
and just being like, You onlyhave this one life.
Do what fulfills you going backto the community and how you're
nurturing those in your nextdoor to you and really focusing
on that and and putting yourenergy into that and kind of
(40:32):
shrinking our our bubbles andand not consuming as much and
putting the energy into spacesthat you can visibly watch them
grow and put them into peoplethat you can be with.
And it it's it's such a basicthing, I feel like, but I feel
(40:53):
like we've just really lost it,especially after COVID.
And it's just like everythinghas been digital, digital,
digital, grow, grow, grow.
And now it's like, okay, whoa.
Yeah, let's bring it back in.
Like we are still humans livingone life in this one world.
It I just got goosebumps, likejust slow, slow down and enjoy
(41:16):
it and be with the people thatmake you happy, fulfill fulfill
your life on a daily basis.
And it's that's just like themost important thing is and the
comparison.
Like, don't don't be comparingyourself.
Yeah, comparison eats upeverybody, you know.
Kailee Nauman (41:35):
Tina and I are the oldest, and it's been real
we talk about it a lot andwatching what journeys our
siblings go through.
And my sister's going through apretty transformational spot
right now.
And her and I were talking, andshe's only 26 and or about to
be 26.
(41:55):
Yeah, about to be 26.
And she was saying, I feelbehind, I feel like I'm not
where I'm supposed to be.
I feel, you know, and I toldher, like, you're so young.
And she goes, I know everybodykeeps telling me that.
And I'm like, then take it forwhat it is.
Like it feels like when you'reyoung, at whether you're 20 or
(42:19):
18 or 26 or even in your 30s,you feel like, oh my gosh, well,
I'm not doing this and I'm notdoing that.
And you know, I want to bedoing this or I want to be doing
that.
And it's like, you'll havetime.
You'll, you know, like perfectexample of sitting here
reflecting, looking at what youaccomplished in a year.
(42:40):
That's huge.
You know, I just I waspromoting a group mentoring, and
some of the questions I sentout was like, look at everything
you've accomplished.
Slow down, stop thinking about,oh, what am I gonna do
tomorrow?
What's gonna happen this year?
What's gonna happen next week?
And just applaud yourself, giveyourself credit for everything
(43:03):
you've already done.
And that's not justbusiness-wise, no, that's your
health-wise.
Have you been working on yourphysical, mental well-being,
mind, body, soul?
Have you been working on andfiguring out like what works in
my work life versus myfriendships?
(43:23):
Tina's Tina's sweet girl peachesjust came up the stairs.
Slobbering up the woodenstairs.
Oh, you woke up from your nap.
Tina Floersch (43:31):
Okay, good morning.
You were good morning.
We were so cool.
Kailee Nauman (43:34):
You're gonna be a star guest today.
I don't think we've talkedabout you on the podcast much.
Oh my god.
Anyways, she was outside takinga cat nap, but now she's like,
um, hello.
Tina Floersch (43:48):
Attention to me.
You guys have been gone for 45minutes.
What is happening?
Kailee Nauman (43:56):
Anyways, I was trying to get with that.
Just like, you know, don'tforget to applaud yourself,
don't forget to celebrateyourself.
Tina Floersch (44:03):
Yeah.
And I think we talk about thata lot.
And it's it's something thatyou and I have really focused on
a lot this year.
And I think that's where a lotof the growth and the confidence
has come from.
Like really taking thosemoments to acknowledge, pat
yourself on the yourself on theback, and being like, okay, what
(44:25):
else can I do?
Kailee Nauman (44:27):
Yes.
Yeah.
Seeing it as like opportunityfor what's next.
Tina Floersch (44:31):
And not forcing it, like doing things that feel
right.
Like you and I have had likewhat we're gonna be doing next
year is stuff that we've talkedabout since you and I first met.
And it just hasn't been thetime.
And we've tried, we've we'veput it, we've put things
together, and it just isn't it,it just never came together.
(44:52):
And you and I have just kind oftaken a step back of like,
okay, if it's not gonna cometogether effortlessly, we're not
gonna force it.
And I think that's a big pieceof of life too, is just like
setting the intention,manifesting, and not forcing it.
If it's supposed to be, it'llbe.
Kailee Nauman (45:11):
And like I'm thinking about yesterday, Tina
and I were doing a puzzle, andyou're not gonna force a puzzle
piece into a spot and then walkaway because then you can't put
the rest of the puzzle pieces inthere.
Like exactly it, you gotta beintentional with it.
And if it fits, it fits.
If it doesn't, it doesn't.
And being okay with letting go,yeah, that has been a huge
(45:33):
lesson for me to be like, youknow, I just that's it's not it
anymore.
You know, I'm making somereally big shifts in my business
for next year, and there's justa lot of aspects that I was
like, I want to do it this way,I need to do it this way.
And finally I sat down withTina the other day and I was
like, I can't, I can't do itthis way.
(45:56):
I've been trying to for threeor four years, and it's just
not, there's certain things inmy business that aren't working,
and being okay to be like,that's all right.
Let it go.
Yeah, who knows?
What can I do differently?
Yeah, you know.
Oh well, friends.
I think that's a great place toend that.
Tina Floersch (46:17):
Yeah, happy end of the year, 2025.
Oh, wow.
I hope you take some time toreflect.
Make a list of things you'veaccomplished, make a list of
things you want to accomplishnext year.
And oh my gosh, treat yourself.
Honestly.
Kailee Nauman (46:37):
Whatever that looks like to you, do it.
Yes, do it.
Take care of your little self.
Yeah.
I I'm not a gift giver, so whenit's the holiday seasons and
everybody's like, oh my god,holiday gifts, I'm like, I
don't.
No, I I have removed myselffrom that expectation.
But I usually do treat myselfat the end of the year, like me
(46:57):
and Tina doing this weekendtogether.
It could be as simple as that,like having a girls' weekend, or
maybe you just need a day byyourself.
A little sweet treat.
Doesn't have to be much.
Well, we love you guys.
We're sending just so much goodenergy.
And thanks for being with usthis year.
Yeah, it's been a wild ride.
We appreciate just all thesupport for the people we've had
(47:21):
on the podcast this year.
It's been so good.
Thank you to our guests.
Holy cow.
Oh my god, the guests.
We need to do a little guestrecap.
Yeah, we do.
That'll probably be how westart January because you'll
listen to them and you're like,wow, this was a great episode,
but go back and listen to them.
Like, there is just someepisodes throughout this year
that golden nugget after goldennugget.
Tina Floersch (47:42):
And you know, maybe we got a few guests lined
up for next year.
Kailee Nauman (47:46):
So we're just getting started.
Yeah, baby.
All right, we'll see you all in2026.
You can find me, Kaylee,everywhere at
eclecticdesigns.co.
Tina Floersch (47:58):
You can find me, Tina, everywhere at visualflow.
And our final sign off fortwenty twenty.
Kailee Nauman (48:05):
Bye.
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