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December 1, 2025 • 49 mins
SURPRISE! Day one of podmas is here and I am doing this whole thing with your favorite other cousin Raven of B*tch Is Better podcast! In this episode we talk the premiere of Bravo TV's Married To Medicine premiere as well as Todd Tucker's audacity with trying to take Kandi Burruss for all he is! Make sure you check out Raven's episode of Podmas where we talk about baddies:

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ho ho ho. Hold up, it's your girl Raven from
Bitches Better and I hope you're ready because we are
decking all the hauls this month and I'm Kaya from Bravo.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
We're Black here to sprinkle a little holiday chaos, a
little pop cultures here, and a whole lot of opinions
you didn't ask for but absolutely need.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
That's right. For the entire month of December, We're teaming
up for something bold, something beautiful, something borderline unhinged.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hot Miss Extravaganza. Every single day, we're dropping episodes covering
all the shows, scandals, storylines, and celebrity shenanigans you can't
stop talking.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
About, from reality TV mess to unexpected pop culture moments.
We're breaking it all down with our signature blended snark,
insight and festive foolishness.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Consider this your daily dose of December delight than advert calendar,
but instead of chocolate, you get piping hot takes.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
So grab your cocoa, grab your wine, honestly, grab both,
and get ready to slay the season with us. Because
pond Miss has officially begun. Hello, Hello, Hello, Mary pod Miss. Everyone.

(01:16):
I am Kaya from Brava while Black and I'm Raven
from Bitches Better, Happy pod Miss everybody. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
The first day of pod Miss, Like, are you guys
surprised that we decided to do this, that was decided
to kick this off? Because I can tell you this much,
I am.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I am too, Okay. Keaya text me and she was like, Hey,
do you want to do pod miss together? And I said,
I don't know what that is, but yes, sign me up.
Sign me the fuck up, okay, because.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You know every year all the vloggers they do vlog miss,
and I'm like, I feel like I'm missing out on that.
But I know that I don't have the stam to
vlog my whole day, come home, edit it, and then
put it out in time for however long, even if
it's like a ten minute vlog of five minute blog.
I just don't have the know how or the will

(02:13):
to do that. So I'm like, can I podcast every day?

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Though? And I'm like, I have podcasted five days a
week before.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
And so I was originally just going to do twelve
days of pod miss, and it was just going to
be like twelve days me back to back, and then
y'all might not have heard from me from the last
and the month. Then when I asked Raven, I'm like,
you know what, it can't hurt to ask Raven because
we have done Love Island together and that was like
a lot like you were covering on your show, like

(02:45):
the military, me I was doing my show, and then
it would come together and we would do Black Aftersun
and everyone loved it. And like, if you guys are
watching either on Patreon or are you watching on you Tube,
you will see that we are in the spirit already.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Look around, look at look around, look at the settings,
look at the lights. I mean like that, even says
in the intro, ho ho ho, don't don't do me,
but ho ho ho. Everybody tis the season? Okay, yeah,
do this Okay. Well, obviously it's gonna be a little

(03:26):
bit different than our regular episodes. You're gonna get both
of us and sometimes we'll be talking about Bravo and
sometimes we're talking about something else.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
And obviously, download both of our feeds, subscribe to both
of our patreons because we are both putting out different content,
so you don't want to miss that content. Baby, And
you know there's gonna be bad bitch, raggedy bitch sometimes
and then there's gonna be black excellence sometimes and it's
just gonna be like.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I don't know, something that we've never done before. We're
experimenting with it, and I'm excited, right, so excited. Yes,
it's an extravaganza. You're getting gravaganza, pod miss extravaganza, if
you will, trademark copyright like from the sea up there.
I don't even know. Someone is probably already doing this,

(04:19):
but me neither. I haven't heard of it, so it's
not a thing I don't here they are, So okay,
let's get into married to Medicine. Oh God, the Sisterhood
is back and can still get it. Okay, I know
you fucking that. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I'm not cecil Is he is a tall drink of
water because I just saw him at Bravo Con. He
didn't know I saw him because okay, so every Bravo
Con the ladies literally treated as if it's like a reunion,
so much so DI heard that this Bravocon. They told

(05:02):
them to tone it down because they have the season
coming up. They don't want to give away too much spoilers.
They don't want to show who's really like beefing or
who's you know, in the mix with people. But they
also told Salt Lake City that, like Salt Lake City
didn't have a traditional panel that they usually have where
they talk about salt Lake City. Salt Lake City only

(05:24):
had a panel where they pretty much like showed us
the best of clips of salt Lake City and then
they talked about it after and you could still see
and even with Married to Medicine, the panels Atlanta, all
of them, they told them to turn it down so
we can have some goodies for the season, but it

(05:45):
was still good. But every time Married to Medicine is
on stage, the husbands come and they sit to is
that stage right or stage it's stage left, but it's
to the right of where we're facing. So the husbands
are there and the husbands get swarm because we those

(06:06):
are the only husbands that we like.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Like, like, so Cecil is sitting up there, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Exactly, Cecil is up there, dressed down lies.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Okay, you know, Scott was also there.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Eugene wasn't there, unfortunately, Oh I think, yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I love I love Eugene.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Unfortunately, I think he was busy, so I'm like, god, damn,
he's probably working exactly just like we saw on the show.
That's what That's literally where I was leading to, Like
we see in this new season, a lot of dynamics
are either the same or they've changed.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
But Toya has moved again. Listen, of course. I mean
she was like, we took a couple of seasons off.
They didn't move the last one. Did they move the
one before that? I want to? I said, okay, you can't.
You know, the jokes right themselves, Like what are we

(07:12):
going to say at this point? Like, yeah, yeah, she
needs it. I feel like it would be a record
at that. Yeah, yeah, we can't have that. She said, no,
I need for people to be talking about this again.
So we go her stick at this point, like we're
just moving mm hmmm. Yeah. The house is gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I mean that is it always is, like it's always
a night And that's what confuses me the most. It's like,
you take this time to move into this huge mansion
and it's amazing, So why are you moving out?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I don't know, and we're never gonna find out, because listen,
I don't care how rich you are. You can you
can hire packers, movers, everything and not have to lift
a finger. It's still stressful. Who feels like moving? You know,
where are the forks? I don't know, because now we're
in a new kitchen. Like it's just it's just a pain.

(08:08):
Those boys, yes they live in gorgeous homes, but I
bet they're like, can you stop. I have my own room.
It's all I asked for.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
And I just got my freaking Spider Man sheets out
the damn storage.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Like not the Spider Man sheets, but seriously, like, is
it the same neighborhood? Is it somewhere completely different? Because
it still just looks like a giant house, So like
what what?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
And then she has listen, she moves, and then she
calls other people's apartments bullshit. So it's like, okay, not
all of us have the time and money and like
patience to keep moving around, so we don't have a
bullshit ass apartment. I know she keep in my shit,
she'd be like this bullshit ass apartment. I'm like, wait, listen.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I as she exactly, and listen, I am not going
to have my husband working itself into an early grave. Literally,
I do want to see him. And then she's like, oh,
you're never here, we never see you. I'm like a
military spouse at this point, I was like, Toya, watch

(09:23):
you're gonna be like step too far because no, it's me.
He's having to drive two and a half hours away
to go to work. This is on and he's lives.
We need more black doctors.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Like it's not like he's going out of town to
like do some like stupid like business job. This means
saving people's lives. And imagine your wife is on the phone,
I can live to hey, I saw a new house.
Can we move there? Also like which which one?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Which? One? Good season? I'll never forget it. Where she was,
he was like working his ass off because he's an
emergency room doctor too, and he was like traumatized, and
she's like, well, I'm upset because we're supposed to be
going to Paris and so what's up with that? And
he's like, I know, you fucking lie, Like guy him

(10:15):
to get out of my face. So now she's up
to her old tricks again. And I love her for it.
I do. I did, And it's so funny because she
can dress. She's so pretty.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
So it's like I get, like, especially in person, like
I get why Eugene puts up with it, because it's
like if you want a beautiful wife, She's going to
be annoying and I come at a cost.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, yes, I mean exactly, Like I don't know what
you want.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
But at the same time, I'm like, Tooya, if you
want a man that's working like that and you want
to keep moving, he's not gonna be home.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Maybe you want to keep moving. Toya's like, Toya doesn't
even care about the house, does She just likes the
act of moving.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, maybe she does, like a sign hustle where she like,
I don't know, like she tries out houses, where she decorates.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Homes and then she gets something off the back.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
End that no one knows about, like we're just we're
just talking about it. And she's like, these people don't
know that every time we move, I make fifty thousand dollars,
like even if she doesn't know, and it's like I
respect it, Like she might be getting something off the
back end because at this point she might must be
at like three hundred k by now gotta be Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I like that. Let's go with that, good Natoya.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
And I also think that it's fun, Like have you
ever played not just the Sims but the Sims and
you like decorate your entire house, and you're like, Okay,
I'm done with this house now. I think I need
a new Yeah, decorate an entirely new house. Yeah, that's
the other thing, all new stuff. She's like, I don't
want this furniture anymore either, exactly, not to leave it here,

(11:54):
like it's kind of ugly now that I've put it
out here, it's it's ugly.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I hate it. I hate it.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
And instead of like having to just deal with it
or redecorate, she's like, actually, we should just move the
whole house.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
And Eugene's like he's retired to argue. He's just like,
oh what.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Also, he's like, I'm coming in the night, has girls
ready chall He's like, uh, they just paged me. I
gotta I gotta go. Let me get on the road.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Chaw. Because that's pretty much it. What else is going on?
So Quad?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I just want Quad to be happy, and it seems
that King is making her happy, and I.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Like the fun like pool thing.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
It's like her and her girlfriends are just having the
pool party and she's making King like bring them like
slice fruit, and I just feel like that's like my
ideal summer.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
It's like I'm in the pool.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
My man is bringing me and my friends slice fruit
and we're talking shit like it just feels like that's
my ideal, Like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Life, and yeah, so much.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
And on top of that, like her office and on
the show anymore, Gregory's life is terrible, you know, shambles.
It's in shambles, and hers is not. They said so
much about King and people have said so much about King,
and so far he's behaved obviously, knock on woods.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
He hasn't done anything yet.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
And I don't have anything to complain about because she
looks happy. She seems like she's ready to start a family. Obviously,
we've seen her go through so much between losing her brothers,
having to raise her brother's children, so you know, the
tragedy that happened, you know, with everything going on in
her home and just her upbringing in general. It's like

(13:49):
I want her to live in her soft girl era
because she's done that and she's shown up for married
to medicine through these different seasons of her life.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I just, yeah, can I say something about Quad because
I love her? And what I am.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
So sick of hearing is what is Squad doing here?
She's not even married to medicine guys.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Drop it. Okay, she was. She was, so she's grandfathered in.
I don't want to hear this shit anymore. Okay, you
have to stop. Watter is great for the show. Literally,
like even if she was married to someone that was
not Greg, she would have paid her dues. But like
she was married to that guy. Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
On top of that allowed him to come back, and
he came back and he couldn't he was married to
a different girl.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
He couldn't even stay on the show. So yeah, she wins,
she wins. I'm just upset that. So it seemed like
did her party just happen the night before or what
this was like the next day debriefing when King's coming
out there with a sushi vote amazing because I'm like, well,
I wanted to see the party. Why did we get

(15:06):
to see the party? We just have to hear about
it this way?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I think that before filming, I'm like, well, wait,
no one was there, like pick it up, like like
the Mormon Wives.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
That wouldn't have happened. Someone would have been recording. Okay,
it would have been recording or I mean, Bravo knows
they love to pick up cameras for much less than this,
So pick them up for Quad's birthday party. Pick them
up like.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Forty four, Like that's so important. Well I don't know, Yes, yeah,
every age is important. Yes, what if I guys say,
you know, some would say it's a fucking I got
to Joe to Joe, yes, yes, you're right, but yeah,

(15:51):
so would you have gone to Quad's birthday party if
she let you know in two hours in advance? No?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Oh no I can't. All that would do was pissed
me off. So I'm with simone on that. Don't even
send me that shit because I can't get myself ready
mentally and physically in two hours, even if I was invited,
like I need more time, I need more time. So no, I.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Took it as it was done on purpose because she
did not want to us, and I absolutely loved that.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, it serves its intended purpose. She wanted to piss
her off, so she wanted to piss her off and
she did.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
It worked like you can't come, And also you can't
say that I didn't invite you.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
So what are we arguing about? Mm hmm, what's next?
What's next? Exactly? And it's all because Simone said. Okay,
Simone was on her YouTube channel. I guess she has
one too. I thought all I know is about Heavenly.
I don't know. I certainly don't know about that on

(17:02):
there talking shit about Quad and how who's going to
help her pay her mortgage and just being shady and
it's like, Samona, what why did you do that? And
with Tea of all people, like you can't talk your
way out of this one, okay, you read my mind,

(17:24):
like not with her of all people. It's just like
Toya said, if you want to talk about her, come
to me.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
She would love to talk about what another cast me
have to apologize because I have been saying it's not
Tea that you guys don't like.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
It's not Tea's fault. It's not her fault. It's Greg.
She's with Greg. Greg brings her down. Greg is the long.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Who's obsess But as we can see, unprompted, Tea said
that she paid off of Quad's house. How did you
pay all Quad's house if Quad's not married and not
living in that damn house, the house that you did
not even reindecorate, Okay, because that's the thing, Like you

(18:09):
can't even make that joke, which wasn't a good one
about the situation, because you like, what did you just say,
it's Quad's house so you lose every time and marved
it to my shit, and you kept it exactly the same.
You would have had the same bed if I didn't
steal it, okay, because you're still upset.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
That he don't have that temper pedeck all right, so.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Ze gallery, Like, are you kidding me? When she said that?
That really pissed me off, because it's like, yo, I've
been going to bad four tea, not like heavily defending her,
but I'm just like you guys don't like her and
including me because I was included. I don't like her,
Like I was just saying that, you know, we don't
like her because of who she's married to, Like she

(18:51):
really doesn't try anything. But when she said that, my
mouth nearly dropped. I'm like, you paid off Wad's house? Also,
why are you paying off any house when you're the woman?
Why isn't your a man paying off the house?

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Because I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that and
this literally was not my house, Like, so I'm super
I already wasn't going to do it, but now I'm
super not gonna do it. Don't even talk to me
about it, and don't pitch me off. Most importantly, that's
the number one. This is a Joke's a loser for that.

(19:27):
Oh hate too? And the girl stop and it will
be different.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
You would be able to come on the show and
like clear her name and whatever it would be, or
even make it a storyline. But you're not even on
the show anymore, which makes it more humiliating.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well, she's like acting like she's going to have her
own show with those watch. I can't answer that because
it's not going to be not me or anyone that
I know or have seen anything like that. Tell me
your little friends. You didn't see this on TikTok? Oh
my god, what do they call themselves? It's not married

(20:08):
to medicine, but it's like close to it, right. They're
like we're the Doctor's Wives of Atlanta. It's something like that.
And they're like a had and it's like brunch and
they were all wearing pink and they were dancing around
and making tiktoks. And there were some people in the
comments being like, Oh, it's so nice to see you
around people like you're real friends and you're real this

(20:29):
and that. Meanwhile, she just met these women, but yeah,
they're like, we're a real sisterhood and we really care
about each other. We're gonna uplift each other and our
businesses and whatever. The hell. I'm like, you know what,
So sad for her.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Good for her because that takes her off my screen.
So I hope that you know they have fun uplifting
this business woman show. I know who you gotta know
only because she's involved and she's taking it up.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
But I didn't even hear about it. That's how much
noise they're not making. And I didn't even share it
because why would I do exactly exactly? That was crazy.
So then for Simon to be like, well, then who's
gonna who's gonna pay off her new house? Let her horse?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Fucking laugh, girl, please do not kiss me off, because
every single time you say you want to dead things
with Quad, and then I guess her. Her explanation for
that was, ah, Quad did a press thing and they
told told her to say who would be the biggest

(21:44):
trader and apparently Simone said that it would I mean
not someone Quad said it would be Simon will be
the biggest Trader, and like, this was this is something
during press. You know you and Quad are shaky or whatever,
so you know whatever, But who else was she supposed
to pick one? Because you know that's actually realistic. You

(22:05):
guys are beefing on and off. But two, that was
a prompted question doing press for the show that both
of you guys are on, not for a YouTube channel
with a woman who wants who's basically single black female
in Quad is.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, well said? Well said, because I'm like also her
saying the big Trader gets not that serious. Yeah, the
mortgage thing with Tea was crazy and uncalled for, and
I like Simone, I still enjoy her most of the
time when she's not doing stuff like this. Yes me, Raven,

(22:46):
I'm the only one on this recording here he enjoys her.
I do. But I sat there and I was like,
I don't even know what they are beefing about at
this point, And when they were showing all the flashbacks,
I was like, y'all really did just be beeping all
the time. At this point, they just need to fight.

(23:09):
I don't know what else is left. They've come really close.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Let them they're coming closer because you guys might have
saw it in the preview, but at Ravocon there was
like an exclusive clip and they're like all sitting around
or whatever, and it was literally Quad and Simon about
to tear each other apart, and like, just as we see,
like what's about to happen or if it's if anyone's

(23:33):
going to really like stand on business, it cut and
we were all shook in the crowd and they were
all like looking at the footage like they didn't see
it before.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm like, y'all were there, but okay, I love that.
I love that they sold in and it.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Was just like, oh, the girls are back, like we
are so back. I don't understand why Simon and Quad
are going at each other like that, because I know
that you guys know that me and Aaron are like
Quad girls, like all the time, it's miss Quad, miss Quad.
She got it, she got I got her seasoning, like
I love saying it.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I love her, I'm obsessed with her.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
But I like to think that even when I'm obsessed
with someone, I can also say, Okay, you did wrong
for this, or this was funny or whatever, like I
can see like different angles of it. But I just
speaking from and maybe it's because I'm an Earth sign also,
but just speaking from experience. I'm still not over that
shit from the last reunion when Simone went there again,

(24:34):
I didn't have to go there and like Quad, you
know they say that Quad forgives and then she just
gets mad again, and I'm just like, this is something
that I would probably be doing the same too.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I would think about it and I get mad all
over again because you didn't have But I'm allowed to
do that. Yeah, I'm allowed to get mad again, even
if it wasn't the horrible thing because his mom said
I returned the right. Yeah, I can't help it if
you do something, and I'm like, you know what, that's
why I know I don't like that, bitch.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
It's like now I'm mad again.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Like sometimes happen will be like laying down and I'll
think about something not laying down.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
So you are laugh already. No, I just pictured it
first of all relatable, but it's you laying down so
you are relaxed, Okay, relaxed baby sleep meds kicked in,
like affirmations done, prayers said all that.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
I'll be like trying to go to sleep, and then
I'll just sit straight up in my bed like that
bitch from the third grade really tried.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Me that day. Like it doesn't matter who it is,
I will get mad all over again and I'll stand
on it. Yeah yeah, me too. But I feel like Simona.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like quad qua quad, and she's like quad gets mad.
She bought us not let it go, and like what
you have to let things go?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
And I'm just like, I don't. Why do people say
that I don't have to do that?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Is too because especially like I let you slide, really
want I should have beat your last and then you
got the nerve to continue to keep going.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
So now I'm really mad.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Your excuse is that I answered a question in press
and if anything that would put her on traders.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Bitch, I'm giving you a job exactly because yeah, go
on traders. I would like to see it. But it's
like what they said, like we just just shade each
other sometimes, like get over it. That was not that
she could have said so much worse she has. I'm
sure I just can't think of it right now. Okay,
And that's what you want to get all upset about.

(26:55):
You're the biggest trader.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Oh please, please please, that really pisses me off. But
you know, QUAD got that ass and was like, do
you want to come to my party two hours before?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I would love to see you. Maybe you can help
me pay off my mortgage as a gift. I said, Oh,
I was so good, perfects.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I love it so good. Well we got Heavenly going on.
I'm like, no, we didn't, Yeah, we get we got
the opposite, we got no Heavenly.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, not like I don't like. I was just like
it was such a good episode. I didn't even realize.
You know, it was still action packed. But no, I
like Heavenly with her evil ass. She's evil, She's a
terrible person. What a sentence to say. Well, I can't disagree.

(27:57):
But at a.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Certain point, well, I know, I keep talking about Bravo Cohn,
but like that will give it to black panels, and
people keep talking about the white panels, and I'm like
I went to some of those tur but it's like
you guys missed a lot. Like they were beefing because
Toya said that no one should vote for Heavenly.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
And so and so before that Pianels started.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I remember that was Saturday because I have a picture
of daughter Contessa and doctor Scott.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
She was in VIP so I wanted to contesta.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Me and her chat for a little bit, and I'm like,
I'm so excited for the panel. I love you guys,
I want you on the podcast and like all this shit,
even though I talk so much about everyone on every show,
when it comes like that's yeah, you know, like as
I'm not talking about them, like as a person, I'm
just talking about.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
What I am actor exactly. Scott was so nice.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
He did a video you said, follow Bravo all black,
like he was just so. She was so beautiful in person,
like vainly beautiful. I asked for a picture with both
of them, even though it was Kintessa just takings. It's
like one with me and Kintessa, and there's a second one.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Where I'm in the middle. I live with their kid.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I love that because I was like they he came
up after to tell her something. I'm like, oh, get
in the picture, and then she he like stood next
to her, and I'm like, can I be in the middle.
So that's your Christmas card? I separated them and I
was in the middle just like this, and then so

(29:38):
I posted it to stories and someone was like they
went to.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
The K and me and greet like.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
To greet, they went to the why are you in
the middle, And I'm like, listen, name character already now
Kintessa and Scott you know obviously they they are very
nice people, like in person. I was telling her, you know,
I can't wait for the panel, and she's like, did

(30:07):
you see Toya already got it popping. She said that
she wouldn't vote for Heavenly at all, so I know
it's gonna be some mess later. I'm like, yes, yes,
Like she just fed into it and it was just
so nice to talk to her. So then later on
they talked about it on stage and she was just like, well,
first of all, Heavenly was like, first of all, you're
not even in my district, so you couldn't vote for me.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
So that was Toya didn't even know that, yep. And
then by and.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
By the end of it, she was talking about what
she cared about. She was talking about like it was
just really inspirational and.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I was by the end of that, I kid you not.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
I went from why is doctor Heavenly running for anything?
To I think that doctor Heavenly may need to run
for president.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Mm hmm, you start, you pack up and move like Toya,
it's a heavenly wa it's trict, so you can vote
for her, yes exactly. I literally was.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Like like laughing, like I felt like, I don't know,
like I felt like it became like the d n
C when I was there.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Because she was really like spinning.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
And this was because of like I think the government
shut down had just got lifted, so she was really
like people were not paid, people are losing their job,
losing their homes, and I'm just like like, I mean,
it was just.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Inspired.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
We all just like left talking about like everyone in
there was just like she's so good, like she should
she should definitely win. Like if it was up to
the Bravo con vote, I really she would have won
absolutely one for Yeah, so you guys vote for having
she like dead U's care.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
That's the difference.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I feel like she's taking this seriously and like yeah,
I and every time someone is like, but she's a
reality star, the president's a reality.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Star, But yeah, that doesn't matter anymore. It's actually cares.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
She's on this camera saying, your mama, the president just
called someone a piggy. Like it's just everything, everything, that
you tell me about Heavenly, I can counter back with
what the actual president does plus ad that she's more
educated and experience.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yes, and when he said it is so much anyway, yeah,
you know it's bodness. Yeah, the devil here like, but
it was just inspiring and could tell that she cares.
And also Toya was just being I.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Feel like I get that she was being shady, but
at the same time, when someone is like running to
change and we are like in such a time where
we need more people who care, and even if it's
that like a in a mole level or whatever, it is,
like damn, she's not running for governor, Like I get it,

(33:04):
but like you know, like I feel like you can
kind of put your beat to the side and kind
of like whack her for something else, like whack her
for her son going to jail, or whack her.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
For don't whack her for that. No, it's well, I
just feel like you can't just pick something up, Yeah,
something else, but that one. She beats her ass for that.
Andatoya has such a heart on trying to figure out
what this is about, she will not drop it. Jackie

(33:37):
was like, Heavenly said, it's none of your business. Okay,
She's like, can you give me some more details? She's like, no, no,
I can't.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I just said someone that she kept saying, like someone
that looks like Damon, Like why did they say that?

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Why do you? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
That was weird, Like is it a joke or is
it a legal thing? Or like am I not cop
to speed?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Like that is a statement? Right? I felt dumb because
I was like, I'm not understanding and I don't think
this is something that we should be confused about. It
seems pretty Can we just look it up? Can't we
just look it up? Guys? I feel like on the
outside of the inside joke.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, the next episode, don't do this to me? Well
that is absolutely Yeah, it's a possible on your episode
about how I was lost during a certain point, like
with you here, I need context, especially on the premiere,
like especially because they're actually like I don't hear anything
about filming except I heard about that and I heard

(34:40):
about Heavenly Running four whatever.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, so okay, what do you think? Oh LACKI the
Jackie and Toya beef, which listen, Jackie really pissed me off,
which is not anything knew. Okay, but you do need
to apologize Toatoya because she did not sit in Curtis's

(35:06):
dirty dog ass lap. He pulled her down there. So no,
I'm not gonna say sorry for sitting your husband's lap
because I didn't do that. And he does need to
keep his hands to himself. And what the fuck do
you mean, Oh if Eugene said what did she say? Oh,
Eugene would be mad if I said that about him.
Eugene keeps his hands to himself. You wouldn't hurt it.

(35:30):
No one would say that. And Curtis has a history,
an extensive one, okay, and you know that. So it's like,
actually so crazy that you would sit there and behave
this way? Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
You're opening yourself up to it? And I guess okay,
she's heard from the watch What Happens Live. I don't care, Curtis.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Did you need to be mad at him? You need
to sit up straight in the bed and get mad
at him over and over again where you just need
to divorce him. And did not do anything wrong in
this situation right here.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
In this specific one, because she did be doing stuff wrong,
but this one gotta I'm a stick beside her.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
And I'm moved with her.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Also, every time what about Jackie was with the new girl,
she's like, is your.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Next holing or something like that. I'm like, is your thyroid?
Are you fucking kidding me? After? Did you learn nothing?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
We have had two seasons for you to learn some
pr like this is going back to Buffy, It's going
back to when we's some fat shame people in the
early seasons we went over this.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
You was literally sitting there.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
And crying down about how people were dragging your ass
and coming forward in the comment section on the Shade
Room about when they had you as a doctor, why
would you continue to comment on people's medical.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Things in their body? Like have you learned nothing?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Is she she can't help herself. She cannot help herself.
And it's like even if you you shouldn't say anything
at all, Like that was so insane and in front
of the group, if you just felt you had to
say something, pull that lady to the side, thank you
and say hey do you da da da Well yes,
because she's a doctor as well, so she knows what

(37:34):
she's got going on. But like you've got to stop.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
You had to embarrassing, Like we're so embarrassing and she's like, yeah, yeah,
I know, bro, I don't know, like sometimes people crash
out and I totally get it, like because it's just
like I didn't agree when when Tea like snapped on
her and called her a bitch and all that shit.

(38:00):
But then I'm just like, somehow it was crazy hilarious.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
I liked that. I'm here for Jackie being dragged any
and every time. I don't care who's doing it.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
But yeah, no, That's what I'm saying, Like maybe that
was the krama of like how you treat people and
talk to people about their medical instances, like this is insane.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Do you learn nothing?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
And then and then the next day you'll see another
celebrity in her chair, Like y'all need to start watching
the show, because if I watch this show, that would
be the last I'm sorry. I know she's a good one,
her and Simone great gynecologists, but that'd be the last
person I want near me for anything, especially.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
By the JJ.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah mm hmm, doctor Jackie, like, bitch, I will kick
you right on this table, do not kiss me off.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I'll kick you too. That HI would. And I was
happy when she got knocked out of that chair. Who
did that to herse that can test her heavenly remember, well,
he didn't even know why she bows.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
He's like, oh my un hurts, shut up, shut up,
fucking seize her, like I'm so sick of it, honestly.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Lock her up for real. Oh god, I love these women,
but you know the sound, But well, no, you know
what I was just thinking, like as we were talking
about it, I feel like I love almost all of them,
but like I could also drag each one of each
one that I love too, But I just love them

(39:41):
so much, and like I don't even care that they're
beeping with each other on other shows when like my
fives are fighting, I'm like, oh no, but here, I'm like,
bring it on some there.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I know that they're going to come together and they
go to not only show us the season, but they're
also going to continue having the sisterhood like they been
together for twelve seasons now. Ye Like it's different because
on different shows, you got people going in and out,
you got big cash changes, you got stuff that are
being shaken up with this.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
It's just like these are girls. I'm stick beside them.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, yeah, they can be for each other, but you
know what, next season or maybe even next episode.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
The then dynamics may change and will yes, exactly. Oh
I'm so happy they're back. It gives me that.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Warm and fuzzy feeling, that Christmas feeling.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Honestly, it does like you're in front of a fireplace, right,
I just showed for the people who aren't watching, We're
showing everyone the fireplaces that we're sitting in front of.
It's very cozy.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Guys, do you like the background? I made it in Canbully.
It took me an hour and a half.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I think it's gorgeous that you are acting like you
don't like it. No, I actually really love it, Like,
okay you do now? It frames you like.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Nice, like I feel like it, like it puts a
golden halo over you you see, like.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Around like the that's always there. I always have that
halo you do.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Just you're golden, like the K Pop Dean Hunters shot golden.
Is there anything else that you want to say about
Mary too?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yes? Doctor Mimi's husband looked like a pimp highlighter hybrid
at that party. That's it. What was that where? It's
very distracting?

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I I agree, I did not like I just didn't
know what to think, what he's so big, Like it's
to be so big wearing a bright ass color and
like a silly ass outfit like that is.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
You get a smaller person? Could you know? It's more compact.
But it's like, okay, you know who would get him?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Good Joscelyn, Like she gets Egypt and chinks you big goofy.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yes, sure, my god, like dirt, acute and insane. And
I hated the way.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I hated the way Jostin's Cabaret ended, But we will
talk on Raven's episode. The last thing I didn't want
to mention is just about Bravo in general. The news
has broken that Todd wants primary custody, and I didn't
see what I said. He wants primary custody because he

(42:34):
said that Candy is off working for months at a time.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
He also this is gonna make you more mad. He
also wants to see if the pre nup is valid
because his lawyers wasn't there for him to sign it.
And I said, of course, he wants to see if
it's valid.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I knew he was gonna some bullshit like this. I
knew it. I said, I didn't think he was going
to do it. I didn't think he was going to
do it.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
When I say that, I was like, you know what,
they've been together a long time. I'm not giving the
benefit of the doubt. He's been a great father.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Can't do that with men.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
And every single time, every single time, I might as
well just be who I really am, which just a
man hater, because every time I try to give them
the benefit of the doubt, they hold some shit.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Like this that is I'm actually getting hot, Like that's
too much the primary custody, and then they're gonna try
and pull Oh she's always working social can't check her
the kids, Like, don't fucking do that? And you want
to see if the prenup is that fuck ah, you
haven't made this entire time.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
He's driving around doing movie premieres by him fucking self
with a movie called Don't Bring Your.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Man to Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
So if we're just pulling shit out of our asses,
let's pull out of our ass why we should bring
our man to Atlanta? Is it because you're a lousy
husband and you're a low down, stinking and cheating Oh
Like that really pissed me off bad when I saw that,
Like it was on shade rooms on everywhere, and I'm like,
I know you gotta be like primary custody because.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Now you're just being nasty. Why would you do that?
Why would you do that? Yep?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
It benefits you, It benefits you that she's she can
pay child support.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yep, yep, Hey thinks he's slick. He is a loser,
a bum mama Joyce.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Who I wish that I could be a fly on
the wall in whatever home she's in. I guarantee you.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Never mind, never mind. Wow.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
The thing is is like I'm like, no, please, don't
be exactly who everyone said you were.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
And he just ended up being exactly.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Who everyone said And I'm just like thinking, now everyone's like, oh,
maybe there's like a ten year rule and that's what eleven,
Like you read really did this ship for a decade
to show your ass like that.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
You didn't get enough, Like i'mus like the process might
not have to deal with Candy publicly, but you're gonna
have to deal with me. And I'm want to dress
me fucking munchkin go back to OZ and literally, no,

(45:37):
you can't go to OZ. You gotta go to Munchkin Land.
I'm that's a rose Like, oh, actually you can't travel. Actually, no,
that's a rose. It absolutely Todd.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
You really disappointed me, like really disappointing me to the
point where like I have to unfollow you and I
and I'm gonna take so much pleasure in.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
That I can't. I'm literally I have my note. I'm
writing his name down because I have to come back
to this. You're gonna get it. Yeah, you aren't gonna
hear it from me. Find the full Oh my god?
Oh hemn.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Now took American activists who was fucking wrote his what Wikipedia?
That's what Wikipedia says American activists lick by balls, Okay,
and I'm going to change it.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
On Wednesday, November twenty six, so he he did that.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Ship before Thanksgiving. Followed emotion for primary custody, saying that,
oh shit, wait.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
And that's why Kayla was at Candy's house for Thanksgiving.
She don't even want to be with his ass.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
And I wouldn't want to be with his ass either,
and they were talking about like the picture or whatever.
On Wednesday, Tucker filed a response to divorce petition, then
filed he said their two children are why do I
keep getting pop ups?

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Not by night?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
They are currently in his care and residing with him
in Georgia while Buris, forty nine, handles out of state
work obligations. He noted that Buris's work allegations will continue
to require her to be away from the children for
at least the next several months, and as he pleaded
for primary custody, is filing noted the parties have been

(47:27):
working cooperatively in an effort to resolve all issues, and
Tucker remains committed to continuing discussions these discussions in good faith.
Tucker said that in the hopefully unlikely event that they
are able to reach a custody deal, he will be
seeking primary physical custody and joint legal custody and final
decision making authority. He proposed that Buris having substantial time

(47:51):
and meaningful access to the children. His lawyer praised Buris
as a mother. Why is a lawyer praising anyone? Tucker
was just to make clear that he recognizes his birds
as a loving and capable parent and remain sincerely hopeful
that prior and continued discussions between the parties will bring
full resolution of all matters. So that's why he wasn't

(48:13):
in the picture. Long story short. She said that he
wasn't in the picture because you know, he had left
before they took the picture. But even if he was there,
I would want him in the picture because you literally
the day before Thanksgiving file to get primary custody.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Don't piss me off and nasty things to say. Yeah,
it's not in the spirit of Pods, yeah at all,
but we will be back tomorrow, y'all.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Make sure you go and you listen to Raven's episode.
Mary pod miss and y'all have so pissed off, literally,
but we had a great discussion and we're about to
have a great discussion about Battie. So make sure you
listen to Bitches Better and Bravo. We're Black, Mary Podmas,

(49:02):
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