December 3, 2025 • 38 mins
It's Day 3 of Podmas and the tea is hot on Todd Tucker. Also Raven joins me to talk about what we love and hate about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
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(01:54):
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Bravo episode. Well this one is a Bravo episode for me. Yes,
before we even get into what we're gonna get into,
(02:16):
because we're talking Salt Lake City today, obviously a fave.
The arguing in ridiculous Places is a funny trope, but
I feel it's getting a little bit old.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
They do it a lot, like a lot, like at
least five times a season, like minimum minimum.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And I will get into that though, but before I
wanted to tell you that a People magazine article has
come out about Todd, not farting Todd, but about Candy's
and you know that we're following these divorce proceedings very closely.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Let me brace myself came out allegedly.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
The People magazine article reported that Todd was talking to
multiple women behind Candy's back.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Of course he was, of course he was. And there
it effing is. That didn't take long to come out, didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Because it's always that I said, if you give a
mouse a cookie, y'all remember that book, If you give
a mouse a cookie, like the mouse is.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Gonna cheat, And that's exactly what happened. They will literally
gave that mouse their cookies. Who show yourselves? First of all,
who is sleeping with Todd? Why are you doing? Disrespectful?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So, did they speak out or this is like coming
from a source.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's just a source. Neither side confirmed or denied it.
And this literally just came out like an hour ago,
so I do not see any updates. The only other
update that I saw is that Candy allegedly wants this
case sealed.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So I feel like it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Get pretty darn nasty because there's a lot of rumors
that I've already heard around it since this has come out,
And like I heard that Candy and Todd working up
with this one lady. And the lady is actually with Candy,
(04:44):
and she actually also appeared on the show before I
forgot her name, but the woman appeared on Real Houselives
of Atlanta was sleeping with Todd and Candy and she
has decided to rock with Candy for the divorce. And
that is Candy quote unquote live in girlfriend. And I'm like,
(05:04):
good for her, Yeah, of course, of course he's gonna
side with Candy, Like.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Who's where the money reside? Exactly, we know where that is.
And more attraction like that. Just a better person all around,
all around, all around, probably throws it down better too,
like sure the dungeon, Sure, yes, insane? What a time.
(05:33):
I also heard that.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Candy and this is this is not on Candy side,
that Todd is pretty much a full time dad, that
he has the kids most of the time.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But I just feel like, will we be having this.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Conversation if Todd was the woman in the conversation, No,
we wouldn't be having this conversation. So what the hell
were talking about right now?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't know. And I'm still so angry. I wanted
to get sealed because that's what Candy wants, but for
selfish reasons, I don't like I feel like I need
to know what's going on every step of the way,
like all the details.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I know that if it's unsealed, it's gonna be some
mud slinging and we're gonna find out a lot. And
I know somehow Ti and Tiny are gonna get dragged
into this.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I feel they always do because they be in the mix.
They're always doing some shit and it's never good, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And what pisses me off so bad is that he's
out here promoting this movie by the way, with Bambi
from Love and Hip Hop Hall, don't bring your man
to It Lansa, as if he's like haunting her and
telling on himself.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
It's like nobody cares that you're running around town with Bandy.
First of all, it's like, I'm no disrespect to Bandy,
but like I'm Candy so exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Girl, Please, I don't know if you're just like the
star or the movie or what's going on, or were
you in the hot tub like you always are with
someone's husband, like you know, it's yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Tired already nerve and start exhausted. I'm exhausted. It's been
a week. Has it been a whole week yet? Yeah,
it's been a week, right, Listen, very really, don't take
his shit into twenty twenty six, Todd, I'm not playing
with you. Let's wrap it up, rap.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Make this a quick divorce, a quick, clean divorce if
she wants me to see exactly. But him challenging the
prenup is gonna make it not quick and sealed. And
that's what pisses me off so bad, Like, what are
you even talking about? You are telling on yourself. We
(08:17):
don't even like you. And and you can be like, oh,
but they've been married over a decade now, and I'm like,
okay on one On one hand, I'm just like, that
is a pretty long time to be like, quote unquote
faking it. But that's also a long time to live
in luxury. And you might feel now that you're in
(08:38):
your fifties having a midlife crisis that you did the
ten years. I don't know there's a rumor about it
being ten years. You did the ten years, and now
you can go and you can spend the money and
you can be single and just be Marvin from New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Or where the fuck he was, Honestly, you've had you've
got all this time. Y'all have up restaurants, close some
done other business ventures like so that. I think you'll
probably split whatever is there with that. But you should
(09:14):
be able to You should have positioned yourself if you
were smart, which I don't think you are. I think
we're finding out that you can make some moves on
your own, so you can be good that way and
stop living, sleep and eat now you as Mama Joyce
would say on candy like and also you know, like
they tell women like whenever they're with the rich man,
(09:35):
like say to some of that money, put some to
the side, a little bit some money comes in, so
you'll be good. So you didn't do that either. I
don't know how to help you, and I.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Will back exactly get your else back to work. You
are also back to.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Work, right, bring back Hollywood divas. Yes, do that? Do that?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
See like that's the only way I will grant you.
I will literally go to law school. I mean, Kim
is doing it. I'll go to law school just to
become the judge on the case. And I'm like, you
can get child support, but only if you bring back
Hollywood dvis how about that?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And the child support is not going to be what
you're expecting, but we'll discuss the numbers later. Two hundred
and fifty a month, yes, dollars, because that's sound they
be playing in people's faces. So exactly, there we go.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And I also feel like he can get a bonus
if he brings back the next fifteen with and only
with New York.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Pollard and you know whoever else you want on their shore,
but mainly Tiffany New York Pollard. You can get three
fifteen a month, Okay, I could listen. I think that's
a great offer. You should take it. Deal this turns
into deal or no deal right now? Enough taking? If
not fear mm hmmm, it's true. That's like the honorable
(11:04):
judge KAO, all right, I'll be the bailiff. I'll literally
sit up there on the stand like Clark all right,
sleep Clark ill state stance. No. I feel like you
have to bring like a judge Judy energy to it
(11:26):
as well, like like what can I explain?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Shut up, bro, I didn't ask you that, zip it
are you stupid? Just like that case closed judgment to
the plaintiff, you know, and that's it exactly. Have you
ever seen that meme that's like she talks like a
mob boss. That's exact.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, how I'm going to be dealing with it like
she's in there like Jida de Vanzo.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Mmmmm, yes, you know what, if Ka can't do it,
if she's not able to take the bar in time,
get Judge duty on case. I would love to see it.
Divorce word is where she needs to be doing. Actually,
now that I think about it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Because if I want to bring Judge Judy energy, I'm
gonna have to get a BBO because they Judge Judy
is insane.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Judge booty, Judy with a booty. What else happened? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So I saw also that Candy posted a photo with
uh like it was a carousel and I don't know
if you guys know what she is doing and juliet
which is a popular play on Broadway, which she's announced
that like a while ago, but she's doing and Juliette
and on her carousel, it was her and Mama Joyce
(12:43):
as the first slide, and I feel like Mama Joyce
was just smiling as hard as I've ever seen her smile.
And of course some of it is because she's proud
of Candy. But the other is.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Did I tell you I don't I know? Oh keep yelling.
That's exactly what she was saying in the photo. I'm
sure I'm still dead? Can anything? Like yes? And my
mom is in high spirits like can't.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You might be going and going through it on Amazon Live, however,
her mind is literally changing the locks like she is.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Written in bottle. I feel like that's all that when
you get.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Rid of that person that she said that wasn't ship
totally and she's like, you've got to start listening to me, okay,
and that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It was also birth to tooth and it was really
true like he did come with her to come to
her with the bullshit like.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was just dead sure did god?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay, Well, I mean that's the Candy and update, Candy
and taught update for.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I get tired every day when you tell me a new.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Update, because only or even sometimes it's less than twenty
four hours a day and then like there's a breaking
news thing or whatever, like when I read that, I
just did not like it's not that I don't believe it,
it's just that it's so damn predictable that I'm like, yeah, why,
(14:31):
and that's why I will never open up my relationship
or marriage. Like, if I want to have a girlfriend
and a boyfriend, they will be kept separately.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You go get your own bitches.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Actually no, I'm only the one who's allowed to have
bitches because every time a guy here that a girl
is like bisexual, they're like.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh, can we do something? Oh can you invite one
of your friends? Oh? Like no, first of all, but
my face card.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You go get your own, just with your grimly looking ass,
Like cause, why do you.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Think she's gonna like you automatically? Man, I tell you,
But I'm like, no, she's here for me, the star baby.
Don't be silly to fuck like, go get your old bitches,
and you better not. This is for me.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Actually I hate it, hate it so much. But yeah,
So Real Housewives of Salt Lake City came on last
night and I just want to say, straight up, I
am fucking sick of Whitney. I know that it's an
unpopular opinion.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
But it's her. I've been sick of her since the
day I met her, So I'm glad it's nothing. I
didn't realize people were into her again. I mean she's okay.
This season, she is much more tolerable to me. I
will say I have like enjoyed her at moments, but
(15:59):
like I've not been turned. I get, Okay, why is
she bothering you so much?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's so damn annoying when Whitney every single time is
just trying to catch someone in a liar or call
them a liar, and then like they'll call her a
liar and then she comes back with like something that's
ten times more damaging. And now I'm realizing that she's
(16:30):
doing this, Like she's so obsessed with trying to destroy
people's businesses because her own husband was her up.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And she is so mad at him, but she's like
trying not to be so she's like, let me redirect
this anger, Let me redirect this somewhere. Meredith, You're about
to get it, bitch, because Justin ruined my company. I
knew I shouldn't have listened to his ass. Well exactly too.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
She's like, I'm gonna get Lisa, and I'm gonna get Meredith,
and I'm going to get anyone who has a business
and I am going to literally ruin their shit blame
it on them and then not even mentioned that my
jobless as husband is running an MLM, Like what the
fuck is going on? And then when you guys bring
up a TikTok about it, I'm gonna say that you
(17:24):
pulled it up in that you're lying and that you're
bringing stuff from social media and that you're making all
these fake profiles and no one actually sent you that.
It's literally right there. The TikTok was right there, just
like the TikTok about your jewelry that you took from
freaking Ali Baba, And if you took it from Ali Baba,
(17:45):
there wouldn't have been a damn story.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
All right. She just got to It's like, I can't
think of a better way to put it. She just
got to be in the mix and being like so
aunnoying about it. It's like Ashley Darby for me. I
think that's why I can compare for me very great.
(18:13):
Don't come for me. I just I can't stand it.
I can't stand it. It's like, nah, I.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Feel like at least with Ashley, I can't see the comparison,
especially this season, but I felt like at least we
always knew what was going on in her house. Like,
we knew Michael was grabbing butts, we knew Michael was
buying purses, We knew what Michael was doing.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Meanwhile, we think that.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Justin is just this perfect husband who's supporting his wife
who you know, he got fired from his job, and
you know him and Whitney are literally she is fighting
for wild Rose Beauty, and it's just like that is
literally not the case. He's trying to do something completely different.
He's gonna get all fucked up. And honestly, I don't
(19:05):
even know how wild Roll's Beauty was so close to
being in stores because I didn't know anyone that.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Was using you. Thank you. When she said, oh, you
know I was gonna have a meeting with the support people,
I was like, really, oh, do we think that's true?
Like the day of I don't think so. I think
she's just like adding saucer story just to try and
like really drive the point home with Justin. Although I
don't think it's I don't think it's making a difference
(19:32):
that he was like, oh, sorry, I didn't know that
you were feeling that way. Sorry, because he doesn't give
like he has him smile on his face. He's like, oh,
I didn't realize, and she's like, I'm gonna fucking kill you.
Do you understand? And he's like, sorry, you know what
(19:53):
Whitney must feel like. She must feel like the.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
The writers and producers of Shrek five, because.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I know you're gonna tell me. Why please? Because no,
it's fair.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Because okay, I don't know if you know, the whole
debacle about why got pushed back, right, I don't. Okay,
Shrek five got pushed back because basically, social media predicted
what the entire script was going to be about.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
The script was.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
No one confirmed it, but you can tell by everything
that the course of events that happened, Just like with Whitney,
you can tell by the course of events of her
life and story that, okay, the story was allegedly on
Shrek five, you know, he had three kids. He had
the twins that were two boy twins, and then he
(20:55):
had a daughter. When they did the preview for Shrek
five or not the preview, but like the first first teaser,
everyone was like, what is this? This animation looks insane.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Go back in the lab.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Change this shit, like, put it back to the Shrek
and Donkey that we know and love. And then Zendeia
was announced as the daughter, and we only saw the
daughter on the teaser, so everyone was like, Oh, let
me guess it's gonna be the Oh, I don't want
to be sheltered. I want to go out and turn
into a human and see what life is like. And
(21:28):
then Donkey and Shrek are gonna follow her, and that
would be the story. And I'm like, absolutely, that's what's
gonna happen. And then once social media pretty much guessed
it and they were talking about it all on threads,
all on Twitter, on Facebook, like.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh, what a predictable story, because we.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Already saw this on ice age, we saw this on crudes,
Like that is just the trope. You have a rebellious
teen daughter, then you have sons that we really don't
care about, and like that's the story. But the producers
are Shrek and the writers are Shrek. Saw that everyone
guessed what it was going to be about, and they
were like, Okay, it was supposed to come out twenty
(22:10):
twenty six or twenty twenty seven. Now it's not coming
out until the next year because we got to go
back and then back drawing board, not on literally to
go back, but they also just recently announced after we
did not see the twins because everyone was like, where
is the twins?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He had three children.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
They recently announced that two of the guys from one Marcelo,
the one that everyone was saying that Paige was dating,
and like right after Craig and I'm like, he's not
dating Marcello from SNL. So two of the guys from
SNL are now going to be playing the brothers and
then the girl is going to be Sendaiya and they
(22:51):
had to go back to the drawing board.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So and how this relates to Whitney. I know, you, guys,
this is a long, a long ride. We're here.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I had heard that Whitney's storyline was supposed to be
about her and Justin. It was going to be her
and Justin's turn to their marriage, like ourselves says like
their marriage was going to be on the line. I
heard that Justin was not sleeping in the same bed
as her, and that this season is going to be
all about Justin and Whitney's marriage. And once that got
(23:25):
out to the press, it seems that they pivoted to
I mean, their marriage is obviously on the line, but
this is more so about wild Rose. Beauty and her
fighting for wild Rose Beauty, So she had to change
her storyline, and since it's so lackluster, she has to
go and she has to literally start off the bat
(23:48):
with Lisa and whatever's going on with Lisa. Then now
she's just really likes she's calling Meredith an alcoholic and
a pillow popper, which but at the same time, you
can't be calling people that and not taking a drug
test yourself, because as soon as Meredith brought those drug tests,
(24:10):
I wouldn't have been shocked and been like, oh, where
do you even get seven drug tests from bitch CBS
number one, Yes, e I would be running to the
bathroom to prove that I'm not on drugs and that
you are, especially since that's been your trope for like
three episodes.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Meredith is just acting strange.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
She's on like you're literally she's calling you a liar
and you're responding by calling her an addict.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
That is a heavy accusation.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
If we take away the wigs and the delivery and
the fun way you know that Mary interjects and like
everyone is interjecting, and Todd farting and all these different
storylines that are going on in between It is a
serious accusation to be like this person is an addict.
(24:59):
And and given I hear Meredith when she speaks, she's
learned like a bitch, Like, okay, if she is or
if she isn't, it's whatever. But for Whitney to be
like this person is a drug addict, that's a craziest accusation,
especially in the Housewives universe. Do we not see Beverly
Hills like what?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, it's not like I think that. It's a big
jump from Meredith. Clearly she'd be doing something. We can
all see that. What it is, I don't know. So
it's to say, do you, whenever we travel, nix a
little of this and nix a little of that together,
and then you don't remember things and you be acting
crazy and having those seizures. Yes, but damn you can't
(25:44):
just go from that to like she's an addict like that.
That is a whole other thing that I think you said.
It's a very serious accusation. It's if you are actually
concerned for her the way that you're trying to act
like you are, even though that's not the case. This
isn't the way to approach her. You're in had it
(26:07):
you're an alcoholic and a bilpopper. It's like, well that's
not have you ever watched intervention? Like this isn't how
you do that? So you're not being helpful and like,
I get it, she's triggered from her dad and all
of that, but like still, or how about we just
bat common people like that exactly?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Like how about we go back to your dad because
one season he's on there with his fallout boy haircut,
and then the next season we don't hear shit about him.
So you're talking about your dad, you know, and relating
it to Meredith and saying that I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Saying this because I do love you. No, you don't.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
You're saying this literally to hurt her. Because if you
are truly believing that she's an addict and she needs help,
then again, like we said with doctor Jackie, you pull
this person to the side and be like, hey, I'm
worried about you. She has not pulled her to the
side and been like yo, I think that you know
something might be going on with you. You always make
(27:10):
these public declarations or you say it with someone else.
You say it with Bronwin, you say it with Heather.
You try to get Meredith, you know, to you like,
she's someone who always needs other people, just like Heather
needs other people to like back her up on something.
And it's like when you are standing Tanto's down and
(27:32):
accusing people of shit, just do it.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Mm hmmm. It's like Shelley on season seven in the
Back Girls Stuft, she never could do anything by herself, Sturdy.
They're always right here with the front of my mind,
in our frontal lobe cortex. Yeah, it's it's it's really something.
(27:55):
But I don't like either one of them, so I
don't really care. But I was like, oh, Whitney, you
have to do better if you want to actually try
and sell this, not to go back to wild Rose,
But I just had a quick question. Whitney keeps saying
she's fighting for wild Rose Beauty, and like, what does
(28:17):
that mean when you said the shit is done, it's canceled,
it's closed, So what are you fighting for exactly? I
don't get it. And then she's like, I'm upset. I
saw a big chancefer come out of our account, and
Justin's like, well, we need to pay those people their money.
We need to make it right or else there's going
to be an article about us not paying our bills
(28:37):
or whatever, like Whitney, you're mad that he's paying people back.
Exactly what are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
If it's over and you guys are in the process
of wrapping it up, then vendors need to be paid.
It's not their fault that you bought a bunch of
stock and shit like that, Like that's a there's no problems,
takes the backsies.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
She This is why you can't listen to every bitch
on Instagram telling you to be an entrepreneur and start
a business. Okay, don't it's not for everybody. I feel like.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
You should do something that suits your personality. Like when
she had that podcast, or she has a podcast, there
are some people who.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Would listen to it or was listening to it. I
don't know if it's.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Still even around, but I feel like that is her lane,
Like a lot of people like to talk listen to
her in that voice, and that's cool, But when it
comes to jewelry and wild Rose beauty, like that's not
something that I see her doing. Or if you are
going to be an entrepreneur, you should drop ship everything
(29:58):
until you are ready to on your legs onto legs you.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Should not be buying stock.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
You should literally be over there on I don't know,
four print dot com and let them send out your
shit so you don't have to be.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Paying back all this money and may you have it agreed? Happened.
They just were, you know, spilling the tea. It wasn't
like that. Nothing can top that read the meanest text thing,
(30:34):
you know. The thing that did make me laugh was
when Heather was like, Okay, I want to spill the
tea that I've about, but she's been telling a story
about Tom making out with whoever and farting at the
same time. And she's like, Broun would come on, you
don't think that's funny. No, I don't that's a funny.
(30:59):
It's not funny because I know it's true. It's like, well,
the farting is what makes it funny. Just come on,
I have a sense of humor. You don't even like Todd.
Come on, like we're building a case against him right
now on camera? Play along. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Also, you're trying to get try to tell me because
you're and this is this is I know she's a
white woman, but she's a white woman who's an ally,
so it might be a little bit harder for her
to get her citizenship, and that is another she's helping
me build my case that she came on here to
leave Todd because she's trying to get her citizenship so
(31:34):
she can be an American citizen without being married to
an American citizen. So that's why she literally had the
I Love America party, because why the hell in this
environment are we going back to seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I said, oh no, And when I realized that Mary
wasn't there, I was like, exactly, I'm not going back
to even a fake one. I'm not going to that
fucking party.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And she show up and I was like, oh, not
historically accurate, What the fuck?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I'm not going to that.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, because, like I appreciate her being an ally to
the gay community, and I like that her and Muzzy,
especially when her and Muzzy went to the sex shop
and Muzzy was like, I don't understand what some of
these things do, like saying girl me at hustlers.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
But but like.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
At the same time, I'm like, Okay, you are being
an ally as you should and sending out flags and
she's like she she really does, but like off off
off of the show.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Bron Win Walk. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
So, but it just confuses me because why are we
doing a seventeen seventy six themed party when they are
literally trying to make it like seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Again to Mark on that one, because I get it,
it was centered around the tea but you could have
just had a tea party. Tea party was right there.
It didn't have to be the Boston one from seventeen
to seventy six and was just dressed cute and you know,
had the little hats on whatever. So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I don't know, because I guess it's because Mary already
had a tea party and that's when when Meredith had
that damn terrible bang.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh my god. Yes, I couldn't do it a tea party.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
If she wanted to do like a citizenship party, she
could have maybe did like a cultural gathering, I don't know,
something more progressive.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, or it didn't have to have a theme at all, Right,
we could have just had a nice dinner. You guys,
we get it. We get it. You've got the themes,
you've got the costumes, you go all out. I understand
and I respect it. You don't have to do it
all the time. You don't have to do it all
the time.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Right, because it's like the third one for this season,
Like I don't know every day that they were on
vacation where it was so some bullshit. So it's just
and then they're going to go to Greece, and I
know that she's going to be extremely Greek, like yeah, extremely,
it's gonna be Greek as the hell Greek, like you've
never seen it before.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Okay, my busy does not play.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Angie does not play about being Greek at all, So
we'll just have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That, but not deal with that.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I love the Greek culture. Actually, I love Greek salads.
I love Mama Mia. So I'm excited to see. And
when I talk to Angie at Brabo Khan, she said
that this summer, her and a lecture are going to Greece,
and she said that I can come with her.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
How I'll get there, I don't know. I don't have
anybody to inspect her, and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I'll just show up, hey, exactly. The only other thing
that I wanted to talk about was and not really
talk about, but unfortunately Robert Junior is still in jail
and he will remain in jail because he pled guilty
to I don't know whatever the fuck he did, but
(35:30):
he pled guilty and he will be in there until February,
and that sucks because obviously it's the holidays, so he
wasn't home for the holidays. She was going through that
shit at Bravo Khan and couldn't tell. So I think
hanging around these women and that's why she's so you know,
much more into things this season. Hanging around these women
(35:54):
is healing her, helping her. Hopefully her and Angie are
you know, doing well. And I hope that she can
have a holds her relationship with some of the other
women on the cast. And also I hope that she
can find comfort in her church, because you know the
episode where she was in church, she was really in
her element.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
She was a star.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
It was you know, I'm not Presbyterian, so I don't
do all that hooting and hollering, but if I was there,
I would I would have screamed out of Hallelujah.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Of course you have to like that. Yeah, that was
really nice to see me too. About the damn tear up,
was like, that's what happens. That's what happens exactly. She's
truly in her element. So hopefully she's able to find
comfort in the church, she's able to find comfort in
(36:46):
her friendships. And also, like I loved seeing her put
on the wig and then put the hat over the wig,
like it was kind of just May's gonna do it
her way.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Okay, Oh God, Mary, I love you, God bless you,
and I'm praying for your girl.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You do.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Is there anything else you want to talk about? I
mean that was pretty much to show you, guys, we
don't ensure everything.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, it was. It was another a tamer episode for them,
which I welcome. It can't always be, you know, all
the foolishness that they have going on, so it was fine.
It's good to chill out with the themes though.
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before we even get into what we're gonna get into,
(02:16):
because we're talking Salt Lake City today, obviously a fave.
The arguing in ridiculous Places is a funny trope, but
I feel it's getting a little bit old.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
They do it a lot, like a lot, like at
least five times a season, like minimum minimum.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And I will get into that though, but before I
wanted to tell you that a People magazine article has
come out about Todd, not farting Todd, but about Candy's
and you know that we're following these divorce proceedings very closely.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Let me brace myself came out allegedly.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
The People magazine article reported that Todd was talking to
multiple women behind Candy's back.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Of course he was, of course he was. And there
it effing is. That didn't take long to come out, didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Because it's always that I said, if you give a
mouse a cookie, y'all remember that book, If you give
a mouse a cookie, like the mouse is.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Gonna cheat, And that's exactly what happened. They will literally
gave that mouse their cookies. Who show yourselves? First of all,
who is sleeping with Todd? Why are you doing? Disrespectful?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So, did they speak out or this is like coming
from a source.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's just a source. Neither side confirmed or denied it.
And this literally just came out like an hour ago,
so I do not see any updates. The only other
update that I saw is that Candy allegedly wants this
case sealed.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So I feel like it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Get pretty darn nasty because there's a lot of rumors
that I've already heard around it since this has come out,
And like I heard that Candy and Todd working up
with this one lady. And the lady is actually with Candy,
(04:44):
and she actually also appeared on the show before I
forgot her name, but the woman appeared on Real Houselives
of Atlanta was sleeping with Todd and Candy and she
has decided to rock with Candy for the divorce. And
that is Candy quote unquote live in girlfriend. And I'm like,
(05:04):
good for her, Yeah, of course, of course he's gonna
side with Candy, Like.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Who's where the money reside? Exactly, we know where that is.
And more attraction like that. Just a better person all around,
all around, all around, probably throws it down better too,
like sure the dungeon, Sure, yes, insane? What a time.
(05:33):
I also heard that.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Candy and this is this is not on Candy side,
that Todd is pretty much a full time dad, that
he has the kids most of the time.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But I just feel like, will we be having this.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Conversation if Todd was the woman in the conversation, No,
we wouldn't be having this conversation. So what the hell
were talking about right now?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't know. And I'm still so angry. I wanted
to get sealed because that's what Candy wants, but for
selfish reasons, I don't like I feel like I need
to know what's going on every step of the way,
like all the details.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I know that if it's unsealed, it's gonna be some
mud slinging and we're gonna find out a lot. And
I know somehow Ti and Tiny are gonna get dragged
into this.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I feel they always do because they be in the mix.
They're always doing some shit and it's never good, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And what pisses me off so bad is that he's
out here promoting this movie by the way, with Bambi
from Love and Hip Hop Hall, don't bring your man
to It Lansa, as if he's like haunting her and
telling on himself.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
It's like nobody cares that you're running around town with Bandy.
First of all, it's like, I'm no disrespect to Bandy,
but like I'm Candy so exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Girl, Please, I don't know if you're just like the
star or the movie or what's going on, or were
you in the hot tub like you always are with
someone's husband, like you know, it's yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Tired already nerve and start exhausted. I'm exhausted. It's been
a week. Has it been a whole week yet? Yeah,
it's been a week, right, Listen, very really, don't take
his shit into twenty twenty six, Todd, I'm not playing
with you. Let's wrap it up, rap.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Make this a quick divorce, a quick, clean divorce if
she wants me to see exactly. But him challenging the
prenup is gonna make it not quick and sealed. And
that's what pisses me off so bad, Like, what are
you even talking about? You are telling on yourself. We
(08:17):
don't even like you. And and you can be like, oh,
but they've been married over a decade now, and I'm like,
okay on one On one hand, I'm just like, that
is a pretty long time to be like, quote unquote
faking it. But that's also a long time to live
in luxury. And you might feel now that you're in
(08:38):
your fifties having a midlife crisis that you did the
ten years. I don't know there's a rumor about it
being ten years. You did the ten years, and now
you can go and you can spend the money and
you can be single and just be Marvin from New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Or where the fuck he was, Honestly, you've had you've
got all this time. Y'all have up restaurants, close some
done other business ventures like so that. I think you'll
probably split whatever is there with that. But you should
(09:14):
be able to You should have positioned yourself if you
were smart, which I don't think you are. I think
we're finding out that you can make some moves on
your own, so you can be good that way and
stop living, sleep and eat now you as Mama Joyce
would say on candy like and also you know, like
they tell women like whenever they're with the rich man,
(09:35):
like say to some of that money, put some to
the side, a little bit some money comes in, so
you'll be good. So you didn't do that either. I
don't know how to help you, and I.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Will back exactly get your else back to work. You
are also back to.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Work, right, bring back Hollywood divas. Yes, do that? Do that?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
See like that's the only way I will grant you.
I will literally go to law school. I mean, Kim
is doing it. I'll go to law school just to
become the judge on the case. And I'm like, you
can get child support, but only if you bring back
Hollywood dvis how about that?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And the child support is not going to be what
you're expecting, but we'll discuss the numbers later. Two hundred
and fifty a month, yes, dollars, because that's sound they
be playing in people's faces. So exactly, there we go.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And I also feel like he can get a bonus
if he brings back the next fifteen with and only
with New York.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Pollard and you know whoever else you want on their shore,
but mainly Tiffany New York Pollard. You can get three
fifteen a month, Okay, I could listen. I think that's
a great offer. You should take it. Deal this turns
into deal or no deal right now? Enough taking? If
not fear mm hmmm, it's true. That's like the honorable
(11:04):
judge KAO, all right, I'll be the bailiff. I'll literally
sit up there on the stand like Clark all right,
sleep Clark ill state stance. No. I feel like you
have to bring like a judge Judy energy to it
(11:26):
as well, like like what can I explain?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Shut up, bro, I didn't ask you that, zip it
are you stupid? Just like that case closed judgment to
the plaintiff, you know, and that's it exactly. Have you
ever seen that meme that's like she talks like a
mob boss. That's exact.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, how I'm going to be dealing with it like
she's in there like Jida de Vanzo.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Mmmmm, yes, you know what, if Ka can't do it,
if she's not able to take the bar in time,
get Judge duty on case. I would love to see it.
Divorce word is where she needs to be doing. Actually,
now that I think about it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Because if I want to bring Judge Judy energy, I'm
gonna have to get a BBO because they Judge Judy
is insane.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Judge booty, Judy with a booty. What else happened? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So I saw also that Candy posted a photo with
uh like it was a carousel and I don't know
if you guys know what she is doing and juliet
which is a popular play on Broadway, which she's announced
that like a while ago, but she's doing and Juliette
and on her carousel, it was her and Mama Joyce
(12:43):
as the first slide, and I feel like Mama Joyce
was just smiling as hard as I've ever seen her smile.
And of course some of it is because she's proud
of Candy. But the other is.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Did I tell you I don't I know? Oh keep yelling.
That's exactly what she was saying in the photo. I'm
sure I'm still dead? Can anything? Like yes? And my
mom is in high spirits like can't.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
You might be going and going through it on Amazon Live, however,
her mind is literally changing the locks like she is.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Written in bottle. I feel like that's all that when
you get.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Rid of that person that she said that wasn't ship
totally and she's like, you've got to start listening to me, okay,
and that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It was also birth to tooth and it was really
true like he did come with her to come to
her with the bullshit like.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was just dead sure did god?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay, Well, I mean that's the Candy and update, Candy
and taught update for.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I get tired every day when you tell me a new.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Update, because only or even sometimes it's less than twenty
four hours a day and then like there's a breaking
news thing or whatever, like when I read that, I
just did not like it's not that I don't believe it,
it's just that it's so damn predictable that I'm like, yeah, why,
(14:31):
and that's why I will never open up my relationship
or marriage. Like, if I want to have a girlfriend
and a boyfriend, they will be kept separately.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You go get your own bitches.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Actually no, I'm only the one who's allowed to have
bitches because every time a guy here that a girl
is like bisexual, they're like.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh, can we do something? Oh can you invite one
of your friends? Oh? Like no, first of all, but
my face card.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You go get your own, just with your grimly looking ass,
Like cause, why do you.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Think she's gonna like you automatically? Man, I tell you,
But I'm like, no, she's here for me, the star baby.
Don't be silly to fuck like, go get your old bitches,
and you better not. This is for me.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Actually I hate it, hate it so much. But yeah,
So Real Housewives of Salt Lake City came on last
night and I just want to say, straight up, I
am fucking sick of Whitney. I know that it's an
unpopular opinion.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
But it's her. I've been sick of her since the
day I met her, So I'm glad it's nothing. I
didn't realize people were into her again. I mean she's okay.
This season, she is much more tolerable to me. I
will say I have like enjoyed her at moments, but
(15:59):
like I've not been turned. I get, Okay, why is
she bothering you so much?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's so damn annoying when Whitney every single time is
just trying to catch someone in a liar or call
them a liar, and then like they'll call her a
liar and then she comes back with like something that's
ten times more damaging. And now I'm realizing that she's
(16:30):
doing this, Like she's so obsessed with trying to destroy
people's businesses because her own husband was her up.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And she is so mad at him, but she's like
trying not to be so she's like, let me redirect
this anger, Let me redirect this somewhere. Meredith, You're about
to get it, bitch, because Justin ruined my company. I
knew I shouldn't have listened to his ass. Well exactly too.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
She's like, I'm gonna get Lisa, and I'm gonna get Meredith,
and I'm going to get anyone who has a business
and I am going to literally ruin their shit blame
it on them and then not even mentioned that my
jobless as husband is running an MLM, Like what the
fuck is going on? And then when you guys bring
up a TikTok about it, I'm gonna say that you
(17:24):
pulled it up in that you're lying and that you're
bringing stuff from social media and that you're making all
these fake profiles and no one actually sent you that.
It's literally right there. The TikTok was right there, just
like the TikTok about your jewelry that you took from
freaking Ali Baba, And if you took it from Ali Baba,
(17:45):
there wouldn't have been a damn story.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
All right. She just got to It's like, I can't
think of a better way to put it. She just
got to be in the mix and being like so
aunnoying about it. It's like Ashley Darby for me. I
think that's why I can compare for me very great.
(18:13):
Don't come for me. I just I can't stand it.
I can't stand it. It's like, nah, I.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Feel like at least with Ashley, I can't see the comparison,
especially this season, but I felt like at least we
always knew what was going on in her house. Like,
we knew Michael was grabbing butts, we knew Michael was
buying purses, We knew what Michael was doing.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Meanwhile, we think that.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Justin is just this perfect husband who's supporting his wife
who you know, he got fired from his job, and
you know him and Whitney are literally she is fighting
for wild Rose Beauty, and it's just like that is
literally not the case. He's trying to do something completely different.
He's gonna get all fucked up. And honestly, I don't
(19:05):
even know how wild Roll's Beauty was so close to
being in stores because I didn't know anyone that.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Was using you. Thank you. When she said, oh, you
know I was gonna have a meeting with the support people,
I was like, really, oh, do we think that's true?
Like the day of I don't think so. I think
she's just like adding saucer story just to try and
like really drive the point home with Justin. Although I
don't think it's I don't think it's making a difference
(19:32):
that he was like, oh, sorry, I didn't know that
you were feeling that way. Sorry, because he doesn't give
like he has him smile on his face. He's like, oh,
I didn't realize, and she's like, I'm gonna fucking kill you.
Do you understand? And he's like, sorry, you know what
(19:53):
Whitney must feel like. She must feel like the.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
The writers and producers of Shrek five, because.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I know you're gonna tell me. Why please? Because no,
it's fair.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Because okay, I don't know if you know, the whole
debacle about why got pushed back, right, I don't. Okay,
Shrek five got pushed back because basically, social media predicted
what the entire script was going to be about.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
The script was.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
No one confirmed it, but you can tell by everything
that the course of events that happened, Just like with Whitney,
you can tell by the course of events of her
life and story that, okay, the story was allegedly on
Shrek five, you know, he had three kids. He had
the twins that were two boy twins, and then he
(20:55):
had a daughter. When they did the preview for Shrek
five or not the preview, but like the first first teaser,
everyone was like, what is this? This animation looks insane.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Go back in the lab.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Change this shit, like, put it back to the Shrek
and Donkey that we know and love. And then Zendeia
was announced as the daughter, and we only saw the
daughter on the teaser, so everyone was like, Oh, let
me guess it's gonna be the Oh, I don't want
to be sheltered. I want to go out and turn
into a human and see what life is like. And
(21:28):
then Donkey and Shrek are gonna follow her, and that
would be the story. And I'm like, absolutely, that's what's
gonna happen. And then once social media pretty much guessed
it and they were talking about it all on threads,
all on Twitter, on Facebook, like.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh, what a predictable story, because we.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Already saw this on ice age, we saw this on crudes,
Like that is just the trope. You have a rebellious
teen daughter, then you have sons that we really don't
care about, and like that's the story. But the producers
are Shrek and the writers are Shrek. Saw that everyone
guessed what it was going to be about, and they
were like, Okay, it was supposed to come out twenty
(22:10):
twenty six or twenty twenty seven. Now it's not coming
out until the next year because we got to go
back and then back drawing board, not on literally to
go back, but they also just recently announced after we
did not see the twins because everyone was like, where
is the twins?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He had three children.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
They recently announced that two of the guys from one Marcelo,
the one that everyone was saying that Paige was dating,
and like right after Craig and I'm like, he's not
dating Marcello from SNL. So two of the guys from
SNL are now going to be playing the brothers and
then the girl is going to be Sendaiya and they
(22:51):
had to go back to the drawing board.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So and how this relates to Whitney. I know, you, guys,
this is a long, a long ride. We're here.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I had heard that Whitney's storyline was supposed to be
about her and Justin. It was going to be her
and Justin's turn to their marriage, like ourselves says like
their marriage was going to be on the line. I
heard that Justin was not sleeping in the same bed
as her, and that this season is going to be
all about Justin and Whitney's marriage. And once that got
(23:25):
out to the press, it seems that they pivoted to
I mean, their marriage is obviously on the line, but
this is more so about wild Rose. Beauty and her
fighting for wild Rose Beauty, So she had to change
her storyline, and since it's so lackluster, she has to
go and she has to literally start off the bat
(23:48):
with Lisa and whatever's going on with Lisa. Then now
she's just really likes she's calling Meredith an alcoholic and
a pillow popper, which but at the same time, you
can't be calling people that and not taking a drug
test yourself, because as soon as Meredith brought those drug tests,
(24:10):
I wouldn't have been shocked and been like, oh, where
do you even get seven drug tests from bitch CBS
number one, Yes, e I would be running to the
bathroom to prove that I'm not on drugs and that
you are, especially since that's been your trope for like
three episodes.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Meredith is just acting strange.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
She's on like you're literally she's calling you a liar
and you're responding by calling her an addict.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
That is a heavy accusation.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
If we take away the wigs and the delivery and
the fun way you know that Mary interjects and like
everyone is interjecting, and Todd farting and all these different
storylines that are going on in between It is a
serious accusation to be like this person is an addict.
(24:59):
And and given I hear Meredith when she speaks, she's
learned like a bitch, Like, okay, if she is or
if she isn't, it's whatever. But for Whitney to be
like this person is a drug addict, that's a craziest accusation,
especially in the Housewives universe. Do we not see Beverly
Hills like what?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, it's not like I think that. It's a big
jump from Meredith. Clearly she'd be doing something. We can
all see that. What it is, I don't know. So
it's to say, do you, whenever we travel, nix a
little of this and nix a little of that together,
and then you don't remember things and you be acting
crazy and having those seizures. Yes, but damn you can't
(25:44):
just go from that to like she's an addict like that.
That is a whole other thing that I think you said.
It's a very serious accusation. It's if you are actually
concerned for her the way that you're trying to act
like you are, even though that's not the case. This
isn't the way to approach her. You're in had it
(26:07):
you're an alcoholic and a bilpopper. It's like, well that's
not have you ever watched intervention? Like this isn't how
you do that? So you're not being helpful and like,
I get it, she's triggered from her dad and all
of that, but like still, or how about we just
bat common people like that exactly?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Like how about we go back to your dad because
one season he's on there with his fallout boy haircut,
and then the next season we don't hear shit about him.
So you're talking about your dad, you know, and relating
it to Meredith and saying that I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Saying this because I do love you. No, you don't.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
You're saying this literally to hurt her. Because if you
are truly believing that she's an addict and she needs help,
then again, like we said with doctor Jackie, you pull
this person to the side and be like, hey, I'm
worried about you. She has not pulled her to the
side and been like yo, I think that you know
something might be going on with you. You always make
(27:10):
these public declarations or you say it with someone else.
You say it with Bronwin, you say it with Heather.
You try to get Meredith, you know, to you like,
she's someone who always needs other people, just like Heather
needs other people to like back her up on something.
And it's like when you are standing Tanto's down and
(27:32):
accusing people of shit, just do it.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Mm hmmm. It's like Shelley on season seven in the
Back Girls Stuft, she never could do anything by herself, Sturdy.
They're always right here with the front of my mind,
in our frontal lobe cortex. Yeah, it's it's it's really something.
(27:55):
But I don't like either one of them, so I
don't really care. But I was like, oh, Whitney, you
have to do better if you want to actually try
and sell this, not to go back to wild Rose,
But I just had a quick question. Whitney keeps saying
she's fighting for wild Rose Beauty, and like, what does
(28:17):
that mean when you said the shit is done, it's canceled,
it's closed, So what are you fighting for exactly? I
don't get it. And then she's like, I'm upset. I
saw a big chancefer come out of our account, and
Justin's like, well, we need to pay those people their money.
We need to make it right or else there's going
to be an article about us not paying our bills
(28:37):
or whatever, like Whitney, you're mad that he's paying people back.
Exactly what are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
If it's over and you guys are in the process
of wrapping it up, then vendors need to be paid.
It's not their fault that you bought a bunch of
stock and shit like that, Like that's a there's no problems,
takes the backsies.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
She This is why you can't listen to every bitch
on Instagram telling you to be an entrepreneur and start
a business. Okay, don't it's not for everybody. I feel like.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
You should do something that suits your personality. Like when
she had that podcast, or she has a podcast, there
are some people who.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Would listen to it or was listening to it. I
don't know if it's.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Still even around, but I feel like that is her lane,
Like a lot of people like to talk listen to
her in that voice, and that's cool, But when it
comes to jewelry and wild Rose beauty, like that's not
something that I see her doing. Or if you are
going to be an entrepreneur, you should drop ship everything
(29:58):
until you are ready to on your legs onto legs you.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Should not be buying stock.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
You should literally be over there on I don't know,
four print dot com and let them send out your
shit so you don't have to be.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Paying back all this money and may you have it agreed? Happened.
They just were, you know, spilling the tea. It wasn't
like that. Nothing can top that read the meanest text thing,
(30:34):
you know. The thing that did make me laugh was
when Heather was like, Okay, I want to spill the
tea that I've about, but she's been telling a story
about Tom making out with whoever and farting at the
same time. And she's like, Broun would come on, you
don't think that's funny. No, I don't that's a funny.
(30:59):
It's not funny because I know it's true. It's like, well,
the farting is what makes it funny. Just come on,
I have a sense of humor. You don't even like Todd.
Come on, like we're building a case against him right
now on camera? Play along. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Also, you're trying to get try to tell me because
you're and this is this is I know she's a
white woman, but she's a white woman who's an ally,
so it might be a little bit harder for her
to get her citizenship, and that is another she's helping
me build my case that she came on here to
leave Todd because she's trying to get her citizenship so
(31:34):
she can be an American citizen without being married to
an American citizen. So that's why she literally had the
I Love America party, because why the hell in this
environment are we going back to seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I said, oh no, And when I realized that Mary
wasn't there, I was like, exactly, I'm not going back
to even a fake one. I'm not going to that
fucking party.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And she show up and I was like, oh, not
historically accurate, What the fuck?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I'm not going to that.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, because, like I appreciate her being an ally to
the gay community, and I like that her and Muzzy,
especially when her and Muzzy went to the sex shop
and Muzzy was like, I don't understand what some of
these things do, like saying girl me at hustlers.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
But but like.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
At the same time, I'm like, Okay, you are being
an ally as you should and sending out flags and
she's like she she really does, but like off off
off of the show.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Bron Win Walk. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
So, but it just confuses me because why are we
doing a seventeen seventy six themed party when they are
literally trying to make it like seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Again to Mark on that one, because I get it,
it was centered around the tea but you could have
just had a tea party. Tea party was right there.
It didn't have to be the Boston one from seventeen
to seventy six and was just dressed cute and you know,
had the little hats on whatever. So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I don't know, because I guess it's because Mary already
had a tea party and that's when when Meredith had
that damn terrible bang.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh my god. Yes, I couldn't do it a tea party.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
If she wanted to do like a citizenship party, she
could have maybe did like a cultural gathering, I don't know,
something more progressive.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, or it didn't have to have a theme at all, Right,
we could have just had a nice dinner. You guys,
we get it. We get it. You've got the themes,
you've got the costumes, you go all out. I understand
and I respect it. You don't have to do it
all the time. You don't have to do it all
the time.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Right, because it's like the third one for this season,
Like I don't know every day that they were on
vacation where it was so some bullshit. So it's just
and then they're going to go to Greece, and I
know that she's going to be extremely Greek, like yeah, extremely,
it's gonna be Greek as the hell Greek, like you've
never seen it before.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Okay, my busy does not play.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Angie does not play about being Greek at all, So
we'll just have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That, but not deal with that.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I love the Greek culture. Actually, I love Greek salads.
I love Mama Mia. So I'm excited to see. And
when I talk to Angie at Brabo Khan, she said
that this summer, her and a lecture are going to Greece,
and she said that I can come with her.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
How I'll get there, I don't know. I don't have
anybody to inspect her, and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I'll just show up, hey, exactly. The only other thing
that I wanted to talk about was and not really
talk about, but unfortunately Robert Junior is still in jail
and he will remain in jail because he pled guilty
to I don't know whatever the fuck he did, but
(35:30):
he pled guilty and he will be in there until February,
and that sucks because obviously it's the holidays, so he
wasn't home for the holidays. She was going through that
shit at Bravo Khan and couldn't tell. So I think
hanging around these women and that's why she's so you know,
much more into things this season. Hanging around these women
(35:54):
is healing her, helping her. Hopefully her and Angie are
you know, doing well. And I hope that she can
have a holds her relationship with some of the other
women on the cast. And also I hope that she
can find comfort in her church, because you know the
episode where she was in church, she was really in
her element.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
She was a star.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
It was you know, I'm not Presbyterian, so I don't
do all that hooting and hollering, but if I was there,
I would I would have screamed out of Hallelujah.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Of course you have to like that. Yeah, that was
really nice to see me too. About the damn tear up,
was like, that's what happens. That's what happens exactly. She's
truly in her element. So hopefully she's able to find
comfort in the church, she's able to find comfort in
(36:46):
her friendships. And also, like I loved seeing her put
on the wig and then put the hat over the wig,
like it was kind of just May's gonna do it
her way.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Okay, Oh God, Mary, I love you, God bless you,
and I'm praying for your girl.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You do.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Is there anything else you want to talk about? I
mean that was pretty much to show you, guys, we
don't ensure everything.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, it was. It was another a tamer episode for them,
which I welcome. It can't always be, you know, all
the foolishness that they have going on, so it was fine.
It's good to chill out with the themes though.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Heck yeah, well, you guys, make sure you subscribe to
the YouTube because I am uploading these to YouTube.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Subscribe to both of our patreons, because we're uploading to
our respect to patreons. And each episode is actually different
and tell people about podists, like we were talking about Bravo,
but we're also talking about things that are relevant, things
that are coming on, things that we're watching thirty one days.
(38:01):
There's a lot of days of content, and thank you
guys for you know, listening to every single one or
just listening to one's to the ones that you're interested in,
but preferably at least play four minutes of each episode
on your Spotify or your Apple however you listen to
it because that way, you know, it counts towards a download.
(38:22):
So we put something out that you ain't fucking just
put it on in the background and we'll turn the
volume down if you need to just play on it.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Put it on one, okay. You just hear like the
ghost of us talking about me, saying.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Klaus, Klaus. That's so spooky. All right, guys, see you
on Raven's podcast. Bye Mary podmus Bye Mary Pods.
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