November 14, 2025 • 57 mins
Aaron teams up with Stephanie from the Mocha Minutes podcast to unpack the latest chaos from RHOP and RHOSLC. Expect sharp shade, messy moments, and plenty of laughs as they try to make sense of Bravo’s finest disasters. Grab a drink and enjoy the foolishness! 🎙️✨
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello, Hello, y'all, welcome back to another episode of Bravo.
We're Black. Keya is still holding it down at Bravo Khan.
Y'all have probably seen some lives, y'all have probably seen
a few things that she's posted. You see her working,
you know, with State Farm. She has that going on,
and we're so proud of her. We're sending so much love.
(00:41):
Definitely checking out all of her content. Make sure you
check out every day because she's gonna be going live
to show you, guys all the exclusive Bravo kN things.
Literally everything today was like the Real Housewives of Botomic
Piano and so y'all see, I'm not even going to
get into that. Just go on Instagram, Bravo whild Black
(01:04):
That's what we are on Instagram, and make sure you
check that out. But in the meantime, I do have
Stephanie from the Mocha Minutes podcast my boo. I've been
missing her and I had her. I was like, Stephanie,
can you please come down to talk to the people
with me about House as a Potomac and House as
a Salt Lake City And she took time out of
(01:26):
her day to come over here. So I'm so appreciative,
so happy to have her.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You know you, my bookie butt. You know how much
I love you and Ka And I'm so proud that
she is in Bravo Khan. Yes, like, let me tell
youse about I need to see more of us right
right for I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's very important. It's very important. So was there anything
that you've seen in the panels today that stood out
to you?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So I didn't get a chance to watch the I
guess Teresa makes the my mouth. I am on the
fence about the Valley spin off with shots of sunset folks.
M h but I did. I don't know. I'm wondering
if we are have a feeling we are going to
(02:16):
see why MJ and Tommy broke up.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So I was like, I'm on the fence, but I
feel like this is going to be good. I just
haven't watched the trailer yet, but I will say the
pump Rolls trailer, m my girl, hang it up flat
screen please. I was like, can we Like? I was like,
y'all did all of this like like leading up to
(02:42):
pump Rolls and then I see the trailer. I went, yeah,
y'all could have kept this.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Listen, Listen, I haven't even seen the pump Rolls trailer.
I did see the Valley Shaws.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, so what do you think about the trailers? Tell
me it should be excited.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Listen. I thought I was good, Like I thought it
was really interesting. I think it's fine. I always like
to spin off, especially when we're seeing you know, we're
seeing the cast. We're seeing some new people or maybe
they from the past, because I didn't really see the
earlier seasons of shots. So if there is somebody on
that cast like from the previous seasons, maybe I'm just
(03:20):
not aware. But they looked new to me. But I
will say the drama, it looks fun, and I'm actually
hopeful because it's like, it seems like this Valley thing
is like taking off, because we got the Valley with
the vander pump Rules cast, and now we have the
Valley with the shots of sunset cast. So I'm like,
are we gonna get a valley with like maybe some
(03:42):
people from Atlanta to like some of the Let's say,
we need.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Y'all to bring back Summer House, Martha's Vineyard. I need
y'all to bring back the Southern charm. New Orleans and like,
how about y'all do that? If and also figure out
how to bring back family karma because and reallys daddy,
Daddy is a daddy.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Maybe we could do the Marty Graus okay inn of
the Valley like some people from Summerhouse Martha's Vineyard and
then some people from southern chrim Nola, because I feel
like they would kind of mesh well together, like.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I think they would. Yeah, I love that, but I'm
wondering if like the Southern Trium New Orleans folks are like,
we are too old for this. I'm like, I feel like, y'all,
I'm not, but they might be like I'm not coming back.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Maybe because it seems like they're over it, Like I
don't really even see them much on social media anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Like that really No, but I did see and I
didn't see too many clips from the panel, but I
see Wendy is there, and I'm gonna tell you all this.
I get it, y'all. I'd be like, m y'all on
my client, be innocent. That's how I feel right now
about Wendy Innocent.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Also heard that she spoke on a few things. I
don't know exactly what she said, but I heard that
she oh, okay, yeah, I heard that she may have
touched on it at the like, and I kind of
seen something about it, but it was like a you know,
a cheeser like of her talking about what happened. I
did see Robin Ditson there as well, so.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I'm like, wait, with Karen there, because everybody was alluding
to Karen being there too.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So I didn't see Karen, but I did see Monique,
I've seen Robin, and it was somebody in the middle.
I want to say, so.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Who was it? Just of course, as I was there,
I think and Ashley is there. I think is Stacey there?
I think Stacy is there?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, I would I would imagine that she's there. Yeah,
Like I feel like this would be she would have
to be.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But I don't know. Jesus and Angel Oh that poor baby.
I don't know if those two were there. I don't
know if you saw them. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I didn't. I didn't really think because then again, and
like I said, I haven't really seen the panel, but
I will check it out and I'll be updating you guys.
And again it's gonna be on Instagram. They even happened
on Peacock. I see some of the dated.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That last year too, Like it was like certain things,
like you know, I think it was Kate Chastain, like
she was off somewhere near like a like one of
the escalators that she like they had her panel up there,
a couple of hers, and the it was other panels.
And I think they also did watch What Happens Live,
so it wasn't like the whole thing, like they weren't
like broadcasts and the whole thing, but they had they
(06:32):
had panels on Peacock. I'm like, Okay, I see y'all.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Right, right. One interesting thing that I did see was
Teresa and she talked about reconnected with Melissa and Joe
and she said it's going in a really good direction.
So I was like, oh, but.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Listen Joe there too. I know, I know Dolores and
her engagement ring are there. I said, wait a minute,
the forces Dolores.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Wonderful and Andy Cohen like confess that Ky Michelle was
going to be on the house. I've been laying and
I'm like, we already knew that, Like.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I'm like, didn't we already know this?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah? But anyway, y'all check out the panels because I
really don't know much. I don't really have much to
tell y'all about that, but we are going to get
into what do you think we should start with Salt
Lake City or.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
City? Because I'm like, I need not help understand it. Also,
and I'm glad that download is coming back because I'm like,
I want to see the other side with this staff
because I'm like, Captain Jason looked like get off. If
they were not famous, I swear I feel like Jason
would have kicked them off that boat.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And I also need them to get off the boat.
Like we've been on the boat too long now, Like
this is to the point.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Where I'm like, I'm like, man, hold what I'm like
the low Deck episodes have like two episodes with a
with a charter because it looks like a little short charter.
It is how you know, I used to watch it
watching it this these last couple of seasons, but I'm like,
this was short charters and why are we getting three
episodes on so late? But I can't so apparently it
(08:09):
looks like this is going to be on below deck.
I guess I don't know if meta downolder whatever one
can I think down onder, Captain Jason, this is going
to be on their season. I'm like yeah, because I'm like, wait, man,
why do I see Daisy? Oh? Okay, but I'm like,
because Daisy is chiefs do I'm like, wait, I see
(08:31):
Captain Jason, I see day Z and then the rest
of the cap I do not recognize, so they must
all be new.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Chef then is back. I'm like, so we're not talking
about Chef Ben being back below deck? Why are we
not talking about this? I'm like, then it's back.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So I'm not going to talk about it. I want
to know. I want to know, though, how do you
feel about Bramwin in this whole thing to her husband?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Girl? Girl, you know I grow so weary of if
you also watch The Bell Collectors. So that's right the
way my fatigue is coming from you, Ron Whin I am.
I grow weary of housewives coming on these shows to
break up with their husbands, and that's like, now you're
(09:24):
getting on its evidence. Do I think that y'all should
just solidify your arrangement? Yes? Do I think y'all have
an arrangement? No? Do I feel like you need to
talk to both of y'all lawyers. Yes, girl, if y'all
don't get an arrangement, get an arrangement, because I'm like, girl,
you're not leaving him. You're not You're not leaving Todd.
(09:49):
He showed his whole ass last season and the season before.
I'll make seasons has been for her. But girl, you
talking to Whitney wild Rose about this is that's what
blew my mind. I'm like, oh, essentially, Whitney, you're saying
that you have you and him, And I thought I
(10:09):
didn't realize that there was like an age difference between
Whitney and her husband. I thought they were closer in age.
So when she mentioned age gap, I'm like, out closer
in age or is it just me? I was like, wait,
I don't know about Brown. I don't know. I love Brown.
Y'all can make me hate her, and I know that
(10:30):
she threw away that crazy Lady's unicorn because that crazy
lady limily should have literally not brought that damn uniform.
But still I don't hate her. And I'm like, and
I'm the fact that she nutted up and said no,
I'm the one who did it, and she wasn't really
going to throw Meredith round the bout. She just said
I did it, and it was like she was going to,
(10:50):
like just take it. I'm like, I like Brown, but
like Brown, please stop playing on our faces. Stop telling
us about Todd because the one nobody didn't discover that
she just brought this up.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I'm like, all right, and you know what, I'm glad
you said that too, because I will say I have
been enjoying Bromwin more because or maybe like I just
feel like her storyline is more interesting. Y'all know. I
always love a good a good marriage scandal, like something
going on in the marriage. I love it. I love it.
(11:19):
I think it's good for TV. I'm really interested in
how she's gonna navigate through this because it's like she's
already caught him doing some shit like this before, and
now he's doing it again and he's on a plane
and they put it on Twitter and it was like
two tweets about it, so like people aren't lying, like
they've definitely seen him. Yeah it was. It was a tweet,
(11:40):
so they definitely seen him, seeing him messaging other women
apparently in Laune Lingerie and yeah, like I don't know,
but apparently on the next episode, she's gonna address him,
and then he's going to of course deflect and then
put it on her and the rest of the ladies
(12:01):
on Salt Lake City because he feels like they're messy.
But it's like, in reality, okay, they are a little
bit messy, but they're not the one.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
My person on Twitter who just like put you on blast, sir.
I'm like, right, they're on the casts. You are cheating,
like you are are doing weird stuff right doing. And
I'm not even gonna call it cheating because I don't
necessarily know if it's cheating or like what is the context?
Like is he just looking at the pictures or is
he actively messaging these women? Yeah, because him just looking
(12:32):
at Instagram models or like suggestin or only fans photos, I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Like, that's that's a man. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, I'm like, y'all act like y'all don't do this.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, but also see.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
This is why they advertising that privacy screen that like
if people like you put it on there to make
it black. I'm like, see, that's why they're doing that.
But people like talk like y'all do y'all so reckless
without these privacy y'all crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Right, because you know how people are. They hold their
phone up, especially older people like they will hold the fun.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And they're making the script all big and I'm like, girl,
large test, it's like please stop across the run and
it's like it's like, yeah, they like spining. You are
the see clearly across. I am in Rose seventeen C
and you are over fifteen A and I could see
what the hell you're talking about. He's like, I'm not
(13:30):
I'm not doing anything. It's not me.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, he definitely needs to shrink their tits down. Maybe,
but apparently he's looking at pictures, so he must have
zoom and some titties or something.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Okay, so this is so random, but I guess I
don't know if you watch on YouTube. Rodney's the voice
Bravo con so he I think he is going live
now and he put in his capture for his live video.
Wendy does not move with actually way alone.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
He said, what did you say about Wendy?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
He put he I guess he was at the panel.
He said r H O P. Panel was good. He
put that in all Wendy does not fool with Ashley,
like well, well nope, like proper notes don't fool with Ashley.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I wonder, well, yeah, I can see something.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Does not with Ashley, like oh oh, and you and
I have a feeling it probably is stemming from her
going then when it's going to the pen at one
of her events recently, when I tell you, I don't
care if I did so so many things wrong it
had been on site for me and her, I'm like,
(14:46):
oh me, you would have like, oh no, I think.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And we're definitely going to get into it when once
we talk about house, because I have thoughts on that
and we're going to talk. We're going to talk. But
as far as Salt Lake City, it's like that happened
with Bromin, so I am interested in that. I do
kind of want to see what's going on with now
(15:09):
Meredith because apparently Meredith through a fit and she was
screaming on the plane and it was a lot of
shit going on. I don't know. I guess she was
yelling and upset with Britney.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Because Britney brought up seth which I thought happened like
maybe the last episode or two episodes ago. So I
kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I was like, it's like she just brought up like yeah,
who has the video and Seth and his mistress And
I'm like, girl, what.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, but that happened a few days prior to them bored.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's why I'm like, why are y'all fighting? And you
know now that you're like reminding me about the tweets
about Todd that even though everybody like she lost her
mind and people say, I don't know, there is no
no tweets the lights talk about and like, because hey, hi,
they talked about Todd cheating, nobody losing her shit on
(16:05):
this on this flight? No, no, But I was like, now,
why wouldn't Mary lie about this literally everybody on this
plane unless they had a production meeting, which I know
they did not, and Mary don't be playing this as
we can see. I'm like, the one that's given validity
to this is Mary. And I'm like, I'm not listening
(16:26):
to Lisa. I'm not listening to Heather because Heather changed
her story four times, like you talked to two people
and changed your story four times, Like I thought you
were awake. Now you're like it woke me up, like
time out? What?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh you know what? I didn't even notice that she
she did change, so can't.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Take her story. I'm like, first it was she was
awake for this, and then it was y'all woke me up.
I'm like, wait, time out, UCHIALI one mic? Which one
is it?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah? So you know what I don't. I'm not. I
honestly tune out when Heather talks like. I don't dislike
Heather at all, but I feel like in this particular situation,
Mary is the most credible one because she would not
She doesn't just go around and just lieth.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I was that she was looking at me like she
was looking like Meredith. I was there whack talking to
me like you're telling me what happened, right.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And then you know Meredith, She's like, I don't know
how Mary would have seen anything. She was like a
few seats back, I'm just like a girl, you threw
a fit, you're having nightmares, you're dreaming about that shit
like you did.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
That's what I was like, Yeah, Mary wouldn't need to
lie on you. And also she only I think she
always says something bro. She was like, brow when you
were so smart to not get on that plane, and
she didn't change her story between talking to Bronwyn and
talking to Meredith. I'm sorry, I kind of believed Mary,
but I don't know. Maybe it was just like it's
a plane and it was just loud, because I do
(17:59):
get with Mary that to say it, like, if it
was that bad the air marshall, I'm like, well, I
think you were f fighting, and we've actually seen other
people argue on the phones another thing out of their
way to come and get them. So I'm like, Meredith,
but I've seen arguments and you don't see no air marshals.
(18:21):
You just see them and the stewardess or a flight attendant.
There's no right air marshall coming out there for arguments.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But I'm also kind of confused too because they're in
first class, which means other people were around. So I'm like,
didn't nobody like nobody recorded that video, nobody no tweet.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
About it at all at the time. If you're tweeting
about God, nobody's tweeted. And apparently Heather said on watch
what Happens lab like right after the episode, like the
majority of the flight was them in production, So I
mean that could be part of the issue because like
if it was like they're taking up majority of the flight,
(18:58):
maybe it wasn't a whole bunch of civilians there. Maybe
that's no. I'm like, let me spee what you're gonna
talk about the hearing, because I swear marritg is gonna
act like what are y'all talking about?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But they would have got some kind of footage, I
would assume, unless maybe they're saving that for later.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Maybe they are.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Maybe because I'm forget, I would assume that they would
at least put on one camera and like show what's happening,
Like even if it's from a phone, they will record
that because.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That's the good phone cam. Maybe that's a good quality
film on airplanes, like the production because like usually when
they're on the phone, like on the flight, it's the
cast that is, like they have phone cams and they're
filming even though production is with them. It's like they
don't film on the flight. It's like the ladies are
filming on the flight. I'm interesting. I'm like, I'm like,
(19:47):
but still though, I'm like, okay, I got more questions,
but I'm sorry. I believe Mary.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah I did too. I did two, and I'm kind
of interested. One thing that I also did think about
was our nets Jin, like you know, when they were visiting,
when Meredith was visiting Brooks. I did notice that Seth
came separately. Maybe they like had like a thing later
on in the show, because I didn't finish that season,
(20:14):
but I did notice like in the beginning, Seth came separately,
and then Meredith would come, and then Seth would come,
and then Meredith would come, but they weren't necessarily like
in the same room. Okay, oh okay, So I did
notice that. So I'm like, there is something going on,
and I've been speculating and thinking about that since last
season because I did hear that somebody's marriage was on
(20:36):
the rocks. But then again, maybe they could have been
talking about Brown m if I'm remembering, I.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Mean, then has been those whispers, has been shouts at
this point, and then think about it, it was like
what I tell you, I'm like, I just brought this
up out of nowhere, But she just only brought it
up with Whitney, which I'm kind of glad that I'm
like the other people. But I think this really is
showing that her and Whitney are getting close because she
(21:05):
just brought it up, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, like
y'aps tend to talk about Meredith you just brought up
your husband. I'm like, what do you mean somebody else
needs plain etiquette? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
And I'm also kind of happy that she's forming like
a clique because she has Heather now and now she
has a Whitney it seems. And even though she took
up for Lisa Barlow, I don't really know where her
and Lisa's staying mm hmm, because I think really Lisa's
biggest villain this season. It's honestly, Heather.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'd say you thank you for saying that, because when
I tell you, ma'am, you can't say you are really
good friends with Lisa but then turn around and say
you are a snake girl. Oh yeah, And then I
know that Lisa looks so over time with her reaction.
It's like, however, karma space. I kind of couldn't understand
why she Heather like the fuck right.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Because it's like, you're always Heather does this thing, and
it kind of gets on my nerves sometimes, like where
she'll invite you out and she'll play nice with you,
and then she'll throw all and then she's like, oh,
but I'm not accusing you of anything, but it's like
you literally sat down and.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I was like, is she okay? Why? It's like you
are talking about other people being friends and I'm like,
so do you not hear how much of a friend
you are not? Because I'm like, it's very interesting that
you're doing all these things with all these women. But hey, Hi,
you literally lied about a woman assaulting you and then
(22:46):
came out, oh yeah, I was lying. I'm like, oh bitch,
we knew that. But it's like you literally were like
a as Tom Sanovo say, a battered woman. With Jenshaw,
you were being ridiculously loyal and like it was literally
like Stockholm syndrome with Jenshaw. But now you're pulling this.
It's like I'm married with you.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I just don't know, and I want to like
h Heather. I'm also gonna look at her Mormon. Her
Mormon showed it to interested in that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I'm like, she stunning. She really is to glow up
with the beat and there everything does.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I will say, she definitely stepped up.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
She beats down, she really does. But I'm like, I
wouldn't trust you as far as I can throw you.
If I was one of the laden soul, like I
would love to like she seems like a fun She
ain't like when Lisa called her a party girl. But baby,
you are a party girl.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So I have a question for you. Is one question
if you let's just say you're on the cast of
Salt Lake City and you had to choose one person
to confide in and tell all your deepest, darkest secrets.
Who would that be?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Oh, oh, that's a good one, because this is really interesting.
It's gonna be between Mary Cosby and Anji k.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Those are good choices.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And I was just like, because I would say Angie
unless we fight. Then all of a sudden, she was like,
let me tell you what this bitch said about you
time out that what did you say? You can't say
I was the vault for your secrets. I'm like, but
what she said was pretty shitty. And else seemed like
she had no problem feeling comfortable enough to say that
around you, right again, she kept a lot of stuff.
(24:29):
But also it would for me, it would be probably
her or Mary.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I would say Mary, because I feel like when angiek
Angik does that thing, like when she is mad at you, she.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Will it's a mad day. It's like mad day is
like She's like.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But what about when you were cheating on your husband,
and it's like, damn, I thought, do.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You think Brown might be a good person.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I think Brown is good if you're good to her.
I think she's kind of like the same. I feel
like she's the same like, but it depends on what
it is. I feel like, if it's something big, I
don't think she would share that unless you just totally,
you know, said something told one of her secrets, maybe
something about their case that she told her as about.
(25:12):
I feel like that would be the only time that
she would like steal the beings on what you have
going on in your personal life. But I do genuinely
think that Browin is a good person, like I do
think she has a good heart. And it did take
me a while to see that because I was kind
of confused, like I just didn't understand what she was giving,
And there are moments where I'm still kind of confused.
(25:34):
But then this most recent episode, I realized, I'm like, Oh,
she's in the marriage that she doesn't really want to
be in, but she has to be here financially, and
she also doesn't want to look crazy, but she's kind
of looking crazy because this man keeps going on flights
and doing all the shit. But like you said, I
would definitely have an open, like an open type of
(25:56):
situation to the point where when these things happen, you
don't look silly. But I also think that she probably
approached her husband about that and he shut it down.
Like I don't I just I can't imagine that by
now she wouldn't have brought that up. Like, hey, since
(26:17):
you keep you know, fucking around on the side or
you know, looking at other pictures and stuff like that,
and they keep catching you and all this stuff, do
you just want to have an open marriage? Like I
could see her kind of like seeing something like that,
but knowing the type of person she, you know, he is.
He's very manipulative, That's what it seems to me. And
(26:39):
it just seems like he would probably want to do
that for himself, but he won't want that for Bromlin.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Mh yeah, because I'm like now, I just think, like,
remember when she first got like before she even got that,
He's like, if stuff comes awry, don't come and complain
to me about it. Now, while I understand the concept up,
that's still her husband, right, you know, she's on this
reality show and it seems like he's loyal to up
(27:08):
to a point, and it's kind of like, you can't
keep doing get beat, keep having bad behavior and then
telling her don't look to me to support you. I'm like, girl,
if you were a stellar husband, guess what, she wouldn't
have to complain about you.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Sure, she definitely wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And I get it's like like first season for all
these husemens, and it seems like all of them, if
they talk too much, it's like, girl, what is going
I was like, Oh, girl, why are you married to
this man? That's why I'm like some of these husbands
like yeah, stop talking, don't talk. Don't talk so great
because he's not talking.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, but he's also the type of person that cares
about his image, and we can clearly see that because
every time she addresses something about their marriage or like
maybe something that he did, he's like, why are we
talking about that now? I always I already apologize, like
that's in the past. Like he does not want to
bring that up. He much try to put the focus
on all the women being shitty to Brahmin. So I
(28:12):
think he kind of likes it because, in a sense,
it distracts everybody from all the shit that he's doing,
and she can lock in on all the shit that
the other women are doing.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah. Yeah, well I'm gonna do it up to a point.
I'm like, yeah, because I do believe that whatever kind
of fraud case that she's allegedly involved in, I do
think that he had a hand and locking it. But
I think it was from a standpoint of making sure
he don't look bad, not necessarily, which is like he's
(28:45):
doing it because he helped me. I'm like, yeah, because
this is going to blow back on him too.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
That's a good point. That's a good point. Let me
get look, guys, let me know how you feel about
this episode of how size it's like. See but I
definitely want to talk Potomac with Stephanie because I need
to know your thoughts. What is going on. The first
thing I want to address, how do you feel about Angel?
(29:11):
Let's talk about it. Okay, Angel, get the fuck off
the show.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I need you to get off this show. Get off
my line, stop playing in my face. I need to
be like, honey, I don't know why you kicked one.
You don't really know Zell, and to actually say I
came to you like a big sister. I'm like, in
what world you just met her literally a fortnight ago,
(29:45):
and now she's your big sister. You came here as
Kiana's friend. I am so confused. Girl, Get off my line,
Get off my screen. I here's the thing. Are they
hazing you? Absolutely? Are you the one failing? Absolute? Ma'am,
I'm sorry. I looked at that photo that does look
different than you, and the thing about it is just saying, like, girl,
(30:07):
I'm like, she's not. It's so many first season mistakes,
rookie mistakes. She is making them left and right. It's
like literally watching a rookie quarterback fumbling everywhere, throwing like
literally throwing picks left and right. I am so sick
of her. I'm like, ma'am, and I don't think Angel's
(30:29):
a bad person. I get it because I'm so sorry.
If I just had a baby, I'm still pumping milk
out of my boob right now. The last person that's
gonna get in my face is somebody else who literally
has grown children. I had a custods aloud by now,
But ma'am, you keep literally you you were giving them
bullets for them to shoot you. Ma'am, I would have
(30:51):
just like if they're say, like I thought I was
getting caffish, girl, I'm just having fun with filters. Like
everybody else debt it. You are not debting these things.
You are letting them. And then you crying to the
sky Keana, your husband, the palm tree and like needless girl,
you are letting them like get you together by literally
(31:16):
just asking you questions and like, here's the problem. First
mistake you did was act big and bad when Keana
not down, when Keana is that she literally punked your ass,
and they looking at you like wait, and then here's
the You're not coming after Giselle, coming after Wendy and
I'm like, Wendy's not the issue here, baby at you
(31:38):
because one she Jaselle was like, girl, there's a whole
different person on his face. And then you getting mad
at Jazzy, who I like, man, but I so I
would fuck Jazzy so quick. I'm like, yeah, I can
see why you stole somebody's man. See that's allegedly. I'm sorry, y'all.
I'm sorry to see ya can see how she stole.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
But there I was like, that was a real messy
stuff me but down here for.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I see what I mean, they're with you. I can
see why he put it ring with it.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It looks good, like she looks very good.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Very Astley's bisexual ass is all over you. I'd be
all over you too.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, that was kind of I was like, damn, that
was kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You see, so you're just using this and excuse to
touch these women because you like women. And I'm like,
he had a type. She likes her men white and
her women very pretty pretty and black listening. I'm the
only one who noticed that. I'm like, oh, she leave
that because she I'm like, because I'm like, see, you're
just waiting for one of these pretty black women to
(32:43):
give you the green light. You're looking for her yellow life.
Fuck that not even green yellow. They don't even need
your whole green.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
And I would like to see it as well. I
would like to see something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Angel I don't know, you tell me. I'm like, it's
messy because I get it. And black people are talking
about Tozelle, I'm like, Jizelle, it is hating people. She is.
That is her role on this show. This bensons. She's
the one to hate people. Well season two, because we
got new people. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
See, the thing is when it comes to Angel, I
do like I like everything that you said. I do
agree with. One thing that I also thought about is
she did recently have a baby, right, Like.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Maybe it was because it was like when they went
on the trip, she was still pumping, So maybe I
don't know how young this child was a postpartum yeah,
because she was like, like on the trip, She's like,
I'm pumping. I'm like, so because she have a three
year old that she is nursing. So I'm like I
was thinking, like when she was still pumping and they're like, she, well,
(33:45):
she just had a baby recently. I thought it was
less than a year.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
But roddy because I just I'm kind of confused with that.
But I also want to chalk it up and maybe
saying maybe it's but I don't want to diagnose anybody.
I'm just saying, like I want to give her the
benefit of the doubt because I just can't imagine that
somebody would just act the way she's been acting without
there being a valid reason behind it. Because it's like
(34:11):
I feel like she escalates things like, say, for instance,
the information and when Jazzy approached her about whatever off
camera behind the scenes. That was an off camera moment,
Like we wouldn't have even known about that had you
not brought it up. So, in my opinion, I'm like,
why would you take that and then make it a
(34:33):
big thing, especially during the moment because it was kind
of weird, like everybody's having fun, everybody's happening at a.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Time, raggedy woman, I'm like, helped the whip.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
So I'm just like, well, why why would this be
the time to bring that up?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Like let it come out at therein I'm like, because,
I mean, because Stacey and Wendy didn't mention like they
got into it. We don't know what it was about.
That was kind of it. They didn't say, like a girl,
what happened? Angel? You brought this up and then was like,
I don't know why you were bringing us up on
a trip at all. I'm like, I told to think
(35:11):
about it. I can see both sides of that, cause
it's like, Jazzy, why are you bringing this up on
the trip? Why didn't you just wait till y'all came back.
I'm like, but I wonder if Angel would still have
an issue with her bringing it up on camera just
just them to in the scene. Oh, I'm like, I
feel like you would still have an issue with her
bringing it up at all. He's like this is so old.
I'm like, yeah, but Jazzy just got on this show
(35:35):
and somebody who apparently knows you said, girl, I wouldn't
trust her as far as I can throw her, and
so she probably like looking like Okay, I won't trust her.
But then she's looking at the way y'all interacting like, Okay,
this is so weird because she's not treating me bad
to where are people getting this from?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, And that's the strange thing about about it when
it comes to Angel, like I feel like she played
it's nice with you, and then you guys will be
having a cocktail and listening to music, and then all
of a sudden, the room turns bread and she just
starts saying like, you know, fuck you, I know what
you did. I remember exactly what you did. You tried
to fuck out of me yesterday, and now I'm about
(36:16):
to cry and get on your ass. And it's just like, well,
where did this come from. I'm kind of drunk now,
so it's like I don't really understand it, especially being
in a position they're kind of a party.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
My girl, Like damn, I'm like, all right, I would
have preferred. But again, I'm not telling like I don't
I'm not a producer on this show. I'm not telling
production what to do. But when I tell you, you
know what would help more? If we had to sit
between Angel and Kiana and Angel just talking about this
with Kiana, I would actually actually get that. I'm like,
(36:52):
that will be your friend of twenty years, nineteen seventy five.
I had no idea. How many?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
What do you feel more comfortable? Because it's like they
are also trying to throw her a bone and be like,
you know, you have to be activated somewhat, like you
have to bring something to the show. You can't just
get offended because it's like people are in your business,
or people are speculating about something involving your marriage or
something that that was on social media, Like these are
(37:17):
very public things. You are on a show, You're on
the house You're on the Housewives. This is what the
show is about.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Is I'm like, who's this wag that was talking and
why she ain't get on the TikTok and make a
video right doing It's like, wait a minute, I'm surprised.
Why does Waggon make no TikTok? You tell us you
know what I.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Would like to know too. But on a positive note,
one thing that I will say about Angel I see
on YouTube today. I was just randomly scrolling and Angel
did a house tour with with her husband, and their
house is beautiful like who ever decorated the whoever decorated
the house decorated the hell out of the house from
(38:00):
top to bottom, in the backyard, the front yard, the
sides of the house, the basement in the house.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, I'm about to find it and said, I love
a beautifully style home. I love a beautifully style did
she say, Joselle leave us alone? But I will know it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
She's slowly getting her house together. I will say it
looked a lot better from the first time is.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Because I think, like that what the bar. I'm like, Okay,
this don't look terrible.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, she's doing it, but she's slowly, but surely, slowly
but surely.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It took like what what like nine seasons to get
the attire together.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
So you know, another thing that happened to we're seeing
Giselle still kind of have this little thing going on
with Stacy, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It's like, Jose, we do not care. We don't care
that Stacey is line and or line bowl, either straight
up line or line by ol mission because we don't care.
Because she could sell ice to a igloo. I'm sorry,
y'all need to hire her back on QVC show. She
can sell y'all some earring because I was like, damn,
(39:15):
I want them earrings. I'm like, I don't get those earrings, Stacy.
But I think it's really ridiculous because when me and
somebody brought up I'm so glad because I thought I
was going crazy when Mi it was fucking line. You
didn't give a shit, you actually said out y'all mouths.
(39:35):
Y'all did not care. Now all of a sudden, you
care about the truth. Oh we care about the truth now, No,
we do not. I'm like, lead staty alone, because this
whole thing with Monique and Chris Samuels and her Danny
Christ it is a nothing burger for one very very
very very very important reason. She don't fucking know her, right,
you don't know Bonique. She's not her friends. She was
(39:58):
not like Stacey was not on on the MONI was
on the cast. They don't even know each other. They're coworkers.
Now y'all are doing I'm like, y'all are dragging this.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Also, they're trying to make it something bigger than what
it is. Because even when Stacey, even when they asked her,
they're like, well, did you and Chris fuck? She was
like no, she had already addressed that. She said that
we didn't sleep. Again, they ask her again, and I'm
just like, well, damn, did y'all not hear the first
time when she said they didn't have sex? Like, why
are you keep asking this lady about her?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
She went on a day. It's like, even if she did,
she's like, did you fuck Chris Hamples? Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Why that's not what I heard? Lisa, What did you do?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I'm sorry? Why is she? Like? She doesn't know? She's
not Monique's friend?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Right, So it's like.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
This good, Actually, we get it. You wanted to do
none in another pretty black women on this show. She's
not going to let you take your chequippen and draw
on her and lick on her. Okay, Monique is not
going to let you do it. Stick with Jase, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Think you know what Another thing I think they brought
that up because maybe they're saying like they're trying to
insinuate that Stacey was desperate to get on the show,
so she did that to maybe like push her way
onto the show. That's another reason I thought that maybe
she brought it up like that. But it's like even
still nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It was like like they probably went on a dinner,
but it's like and she probably knows who's Christanels is. Also,
Monique is not her friend. I'm like, why are you
making anything like this is just terrible? Why she broke
girl code? How Yeah, she doesn't know her.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
And I'm kind of excited to see their interaction too,
because I see that Monique is coming back some I'm like,
are her and Stacey gonna be cool?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Like? Nothing actually bring up? That's what I'm like, what
are y'all doing? I'm like, both of y'all like, oh
my god, Quitzy she trying to date him? Why are you?
I'm like, I know she's gonna becat now, but she
doesn't even have the interaction. That's like saying like, oh,
you dated Katy Ross first three husbands? Yes, No, I'm kidding,
(42:19):
she doesn't. But It's like that's like you're saying, like, oh,
you dated Katie Ros's first husband. Oh, Katy bro If
I did, why is why is this an issue? Well?
We know her, Okay, you know her, but here's the problem,
(42:41):
here's a problem. Sorry, they Stacey doesn't like to tell
the truth. I don't care about the truth. But it's
like I don't just didn't care when Miya big Maya
her big feet were lying. Do not sit here and
try to do this with Stacey. You did not care
when Mia was like, now is something you care about
the truth? You don't. You just feel like hazing Stacy
(43:01):
because hey, hi, Ashley don't want to talk about her
real life, and neither there's just Zelle, but Tzelle has
not wanted to really talk about her real life since.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
He m hm, you got a point, and I do
agree with that. When it comes to Stacy, it's like,
I just genuinely and you know that, I feel like
that is something that I haven't seen in a while. Actually,
like a housewife that doesn't necessarily tell the truth, but
you just don't care because you enjoy her so much,
Like I enjoy Stacy as a person in general, I
(43:30):
don't really need to know much about her life because
I feel like she plays just she plays a role
that's so different from anything that I've seen on housewives.
It's just like she's relaxed, she's fun, she sits back,
she's just being herself. The cards they just fall where
they may, and then it's like we just enjoy it.
(43:51):
We enjoyed it every episode, and so yeah, that's not
a big thing to me. Like knowing who she's dating
or knowing who she's with, would it be nice, Yeah,
but I just don't really care that much, Like when
they're like, oh, I really don't know anything about Stacey,
and I feel like Giselle is so hot and cold
with Stacy, Like one minute you don't really fuck with her.
(44:12):
The next minute, I guess she felt bad because she
was looking like a bully. So she's like, you know what, Stacey,
You're okay, And then the next minute, it's just like
we're back at square one. I feel so I'm like,
which one is it?
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I'm like, I don't girl, I don't care. And it's
like you bring up you try to copy Wendy's own business. Hey,
HI really like each other. So you're like you're just
like why are you weaponizing like this thing with Wendy
as if you and Wendy are cool. I'm like, okay,
so what is your deal with Stacey? And hey, hi
sidebar and TJ had all these receipts? Where the fuck
(44:49):
are they? Like you excuse me, sir? You were like
going to like ether her with all these receipts? Is he?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
And you found out that the friend was Shanola Hampton.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
And I was like, okay, what why did you tell
them this of all people to do?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
And it wasn't like her. I'm like, because I love Shanola,
Like I've seen her on Shameless, I've seen her on
that show that she had about the the kids, it
was like some kind of like law and order type show,
and told her on that. So it's like it was
kind of random to see that she may have been
(45:35):
the friend or was the friend. I still don't really know.
She's friends with them? Did you say it? Did you
not say it?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Like she said? So this is what it was funny
because Jelle said the person told me not to say anything,
and then she went and watch what happens out and
flat out said, oh, I'm one of his best friends.
I'm like, oh, so essentially a ship.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yeah, so that's what I got from there.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
You didn't have to tell us ship Like, I'm very
very confused here. Also, d J, you can't get mad
at her about the agreement that you said yes to.
Mm hmm, Sorr. Why are you making it saying like
she blackmailed you and made you do it. I'm like, son,
(46:19):
she asked me to do it, and you said, oh, okay, sir.
I'm like, I don't if she looked here, if she
rented a date, if you were a glorified escort on Potomacs,
so be it. Because you literally said yes, she did
not make you do it. Also, you were acting super
weird on the show. Was she asked you to act
(46:39):
to or just show up as her plus one? Pick
a struggle, sir?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Got her? Got her? But that's pretty much it when
it comes to Posama. Oh, another thing I want to
ask you, how do you feel about Ashley Darby and
these remixes? Have you heard of?
Speaker 2 (47:01):
I'm sorry you, I'm sorry you feel like we don't
have nothing doubt?
Speaker 1 (47:08):
No, Like the remix is like this song.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
First of all, when I tell you when Candice Dialer
Bassett Howard university graded or maybe she has a graduator
yet she might be still working on her degree. Flat out.
Sad said she over uses auto tune. Folks were telling
her to you're being a hater and shut the f up,
(47:33):
and then here come fue ahead with this extremely auto
tuned version of killing me softly, and I'm like, I
need to know, I need a look here. I need
Mama Odie to call to d m me so we
can put her will on her. And I'm like, I
need you to find the estate of ROBERTA. Flack because
(47:54):
I need you to find out how to haunt her.
How dare you?
Speaker 1 (47:59):
I just wanted to just stop, like it's actually like Ashley,
I just want her to stop.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
My girl. I'm like, stop, let me tell you something.
Actually see Stacey and me say this to her face.
You need to go find you a vocalal yeah, because
how do you sharp and flat at the exact same time.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
And it's like she's going on tour with it. It's
like these little mini tours where she performs at these
being used and in my hand, I'm.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Just like, please leave us ahead.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I need you to come forward. Who's booking that? Like
I need to know.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
I get it. She seems like a fun time she
is she really, I'm like, let her do that, let
her be a drag.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
King drag brunch and it was fun?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Was it fun?
Speaker 1 (48:49):
It was fun? She did so it was winn in
South Florida. In the whole time. We had the best time.
She was the best host. I think she's great at that.
Actually he's actually a really good host.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Like for like she is a good time she she's
also a fun girl, like a fun girl. It seems
like that is her lane. You going into fio and
overusing auto tune. It's just like and when people keep
putting up them videos of people singing in front of
fantom like that literally is how it sounds.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
I don't really hear the auto tune, You're like, you
don't send me for really, I don't really hear the
auto tune like I just it does not sound good.
But I don't hear the auto tune like I just
feel like it's just bad.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Because that's the thing. It's so bad because she overused autune.
That's why it sounds like robot or her.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Singing like so I did hear her tease like the
little the actual song and it's gonna be like a
club electronic type of Mit says she's doing too killing
me softly. And I did hear autotune in that. Now
(50:04):
when she's performing live, I don't necessarily hear the autotune.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Look, I just that's the thing. I think you can
only do auto tune in the studio. So I think
that's why she sounds sharp and flat.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Oh okay, okay, because yeah, I'm like, I don't really
hear the autotune when she when she seems live, but
I just hear it more so it can put it
in the mic, like it's like a setting that they
can do. But I do hear it on that track
that she teams.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
It was just like, man, please see, that's the thing
you basically want, roberta flat tooth haunt. You sit in
your sit at the foot of your bed and stay
you note. I will literally rip out your linux.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Stop singing merse shit, but boo before I let you go,
I want to know do you have any final thoughts
on Housewives of Potoma? Honestly, housewives in general.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I am very proud of Wendy showing up to Broad Yes,
I was surprised. I didn't think she was going to come,
and the fact that she is still she's very much
and taking a page out of Stats's books to go
and still I arrive. I think it's very brave. I
don't think I would have. I'm not saying that because
(51:16):
I think I did something wrong or I'm like I
feel guilty. I'm like, I don't know if I would
want that kind of like energy. I don't know if
I would. But in fact, I'm like, Wendy has my
respect and that's why I'm sitting here, like your honor,
my client, be innocent. I this is a it's really
(51:39):
interesting to say. Even though Angel is draining me, I
think she needs to just like you know, be put
back in the oven and cooked a little bit more
and then come back. I think You're like, man, you can't,
you can't keep doing this, and Keana leave me alone.
Keanna just leaves me alone because I'm like, why are
you bringing up? You brought it? Like, what why are
(52:03):
you bringing up like we've washed it? Why did she
bring it up? Because, bitch, when y'all were sitting up
at here up in Baltimore City arguing, you brought it
up that she don't like her. You brought this up, ma'am.
What is with you? An angel? It's like, y'all don't
understand y'all like, why y'all talk about it? Because she
brought it up on the camera. He said, you brought
(52:23):
I'm like, stop bringing this up on camera that you're
not comfortable talking about. Well, page out of Justesselle's book.
Why do you think she's gonna be bringing something shit up?
There's a lot of people who don't bring it up.
Please stay to you alone. I know she lying, but
if y'all don't care about me, I do not bring
this up.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
I definitely agree.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
One got a new bird, and I'm gonna be watching
this bird. And if I don't see that bird and
it's like six months, I'm calling the SPCI. That's the
second bird.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
But I think you are crazy.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
But I will say and the like as much as
I give fever to Monique, Monique the meta Joe Samuels
walked in that it's not my name is, but I
will say Monique Samlen's is one of the most beautiful housewife,
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the best styled housewife came on the show. No Notes
Ever is Monique Samius. That woman up. She upped the
entire grade, for the entire cast walking in the door.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
I don't know why I thought you were gonna say,
Kyle Richards, girl, I just.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Wanted to be messy that lady that will go and
just just love your ladies. Honey, we don't care.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
And I agree it is definitely I said the same thing.
I'm like, I just know we do not care. I care.
She could stay at home.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Mos Suton, you better shut the hell up. We're gonna
send you home to your mama, so she could be
mean to you.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
I mean, I feel bad about that, but you know what,
after last season and how they did Garcia, I don't
feel bad for any of them.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Apparently there's a clip where talking about like where something
said she is like, it's I flowed on Twitter at
shout out to the brook last because she said that's
the stuff in the same but someton said she was
glad that left that Garca left the show because the
men she bonded with the other women. Girl, what wow?
What garcol literally was the person standing up for you.
(54:29):
You were the one crime because they weren't nice to you.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
What they did. That's all I'll say on there. I
hope they get what they get and don't be upset
about it.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
Nope, what you get, see what you got.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
How it goes. But boo, where can the people find you?
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And it's been a pleasure as always having you. You
already know when you're ready for me to come on,
just because you know I have a job. Now I
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Speaker 2 (55:44):
So it's me. I was like, wait a minute, hold on,
Aaron is a whole corporate professional listen is corporate boots.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
I'm trying. I'm trying to be. I'm trying so hard
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trying to be. But yes, I would love to because
I just want to connect. I miss talking Bravo, I
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just so happy that you came on to chat.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
You're back on the mic, I said, a minute, listen, yeah, yeah,
you know, when he is away, I will come back
and play for you guys and you know, talk with
the other.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
I'm really excited. But thank you, against Stephanie.
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Hello, Hello, y'all, welcome back to another episode of Bravo.
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check that out. But in the meantime, I do have
Stephanie from the Mocha Minutes podcast my boo. I've been
missing her and I had her. I was like, Stephanie,
can you please come down to talk to the people
with me about House as a Potomac and House as
a Salt Lake City And she took time out of
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her day to come over here. So I'm so appreciative,
so happy to have her.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You know you, my bookie butt. You know how much
I love you and Ka And I'm so proud that
she is in Bravo Khan. Yes, like, let me tell
youse about I need to see more of us right
right for I'm all for it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's very important. It's very important. So was there anything
that you've seen in the panels today that stood out
to you?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So I didn't get a chance to watch the I
guess Teresa makes the my mouth. I am on the
fence about the Valley spin off with shots of sunset folks.
M h but I did. I don't know. I'm wondering
if we are have a feeling we are going to
(02:16):
see why MJ and Tommy broke up.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So I was like, I'm on the fence, but I
feel like this is going to be good. I just
haven't watched the trailer yet, but I will say the
pump Rolls trailer, m my girl, hang it up flat
screen please. I was like, can we Like? I was like,
y'all did all of this like like leading up to
(02:42):
pump Rolls and then I see the trailer. I went, yeah,
y'all could have kept this.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Listen, Listen, I haven't even seen the pump Rolls trailer.
I did see the Valley Shaws.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, so what do you think about the trailers? Tell
me it should be excited.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Listen. I thought I was good, Like I thought it
was really interesting. I think it's fine. I always like
to spin off, especially when we're seeing you know, we're
seeing the cast. We're seeing some new people or maybe
they from the past, because I didn't really see the
earlier seasons of shots. So if there is somebody on
that cast like from the previous seasons, maybe I'm just
(03:20):
not aware. But they looked new to me. But I
will say the drama, it looks fun, and I'm actually
hopeful because it's like, it seems like this Valley thing
is like taking off, because we got the Valley with
the vander pump Rules cast, and now we have the
Valley with the shots of sunset cast. So I'm like,
are we gonna get a valley with like maybe some
(03:42):
people from Atlanta to like some of the Let's say,
we need.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Y'all to bring back Summer House, Martha's Vineyard. I need
y'all to bring back the Southern charm. New Orleans and like,
how about y'all do that? If and also figure out
how to bring back family karma because and reallys daddy,
Daddy is a daddy.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Maybe we could do the Marty Graus okay inn of
the Valley like some people from Summerhouse Martha's Vineyard and
then some people from southern chrim Nola, because I feel
like they would kind of mesh well together, like.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I think they would. Yeah, I love that, but I'm
wondering if like the Southern Trium New Orleans folks are like,
we are too old for this. I'm like, I feel like, y'all,
I'm not, but they might be like I'm not coming back.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Maybe because it seems like they're over it, Like I
don't really even see them much on social media anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Like that really No, but I did see and I
didn't see too many clips from the panel, but I
see Wendy is there, and I'm gonna tell you all this.
I get it, y'all. I'd be like, m y'all on
my client, be innocent. That's how I feel right now
about Wendy Innocent.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Also heard that she spoke on a few things. I
don't know exactly what she said, but I heard that
she oh, okay, yeah, I heard that she may have
touched on it at the like, and I kind of
seen something about it, but it was like a you know,
a cheeser like of her talking about what happened. I
did see Robin Ditson there as well, so.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I'm like, wait, with Karen there, because everybody was alluding
to Karen being there too.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So I didn't see Karen, but I did see Monique,
I've seen Robin, and it was somebody in the middle.
I want to say, so.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Who was it? Just of course, as I was there,
I think and Ashley is there. I think is Stacey there?
I think Stacy is there?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, I would I would imagine that she's there. Yeah,
Like I feel like this would be she would have
to be.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But I don't know. Jesus and Angel Oh that poor baby.
I don't know if those two were there. I don't
know if you saw them. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I didn't. I didn't really think because then again, and
like I said, I haven't really seen the panel, but
I will check it out and I'll be updating you guys.
And again it's gonna be on Instagram. They even happened
on Peacock. I see some of the dated.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That last year too, Like it was like certain things,
like you know, I think it was Kate Chastain, like
she was off somewhere near like a like one of
the escalators that she like they had her panel up there,
a couple of hers, and the it was other panels.
And I think they also did watch What Happens Live,
so it wasn't like the whole thing, like they weren't
like broadcasts and the whole thing, but they had they
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had panels on Peacock. I'm like, Okay, I see y'all.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Right, right. One interesting thing that I did see was
Teresa and she talked about reconnected with Melissa and Joe
and she said it's going in a really good direction.
So I was like, oh, but.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Listen Joe there too. I know, I know Dolores and
her engagement ring are there. I said, wait a minute,
the forces Dolores.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Wonderful and Andy Cohen like confess that Ky Michelle was
going to be on the house. I've been laying and
I'm like, we already knew that, Like.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I'm like, didn't we already know this?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah? But anyway, y'all check out the panels because I
really don't know much. I don't really have much to
tell y'all about that, but we are going to get
into what do you think we should start with Salt
Lake City or.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
City? Because I'm like, I need not help understand it. Also,
and I'm glad that download is coming back because I'm like,
I want to see the other side with this staff
because I'm like, Captain Jason looked like get off. If
they were not famous, I swear I feel like Jason
would have kicked them off that boat.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And I also need them to get off the boat.
Like we've been on the boat too long now, Like
this is to the point.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Where I'm like, I'm like, man, hold what I'm like
the low Deck episodes have like two episodes with a
with a charter because it looks like a little short charter.
It is how you know, I used to watch it
watching it this these last couple of seasons, but I'm like,
this was short charters and why are we getting three
episodes on so late? But I can't so apparently it
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looks like this is going to be on below deck.
I guess I don't know if meta downolder whatever one
can I think down onder, Captain Jason, this is going
to be on their season. I'm like yeah, because I'm like, wait, man,
why do I see Daisy? Oh? Okay, but I'm like,
because Daisy is chiefs do I'm like, wait, I see
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Captain Jason, I see day Z and then the rest
of the cap I do not recognize, so they must
all be new.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Chef then is back. I'm like, so we're not talking
about Chef Ben being back below deck? Why are we
not talking about this? I'm like, then it's back.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So I'm not going to talk about it. I want
to know. I want to know, though, how do you
feel about Bramwin in this whole thing to her husband?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Girl? Girl, you know I grow so weary of if
you also watch The Bell Collectors. So that's right the
way my fatigue is coming from you, Ron Whin I am.
I grow weary of housewives coming on these shows to
break up with their husbands, and that's like, now you're
(09:24):
getting on its evidence. Do I think that y'all should
just solidify your arrangement? Yes? Do I think y'all have
an arrangement? No? Do I feel like you need to
talk to both of y'all lawyers. Yes, girl, if y'all
don't get an arrangement, get an arrangement, because I'm like, girl,
you're not leaving him. You're not You're not leaving Todd.
(09:49):
He showed his whole ass last season and the season before.
I'll make seasons has been for her. But girl, you
talking to Whitney wild Rose about this is that's what
blew my mind. I'm like, oh, essentially, Whitney, you're saying
that you have you and him, And I thought I
(10:09):
didn't realize that there was like an age difference between
Whitney and her husband. I thought they were closer in age.
So when she mentioned age gap, I'm like, out closer
in age or is it just me? I was like, wait,
I don't know about Brown. I don't know. I love Brown.
Y'all can make me hate her, and I know that
(10:30):
she threw away that crazy Lady's unicorn because that crazy
lady limily should have literally not brought that damn uniform.
But still I don't hate her. And I'm like, and
I'm the fact that she nutted up and said no,
I'm the one who did it, and she wasn't really
going to throw Meredith round the bout. She just said
I did it, and it was like she was going to,
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like just take it. I'm like, I like Brown, but
like Brown, please stop playing on our faces. Stop telling
us about Todd because the one nobody didn't discover that
she just brought this up.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I'm like, all right, and you know what, I'm glad
you said that too, because I will say I have
been enjoying Bromwin more because or maybe like I just
feel like her storyline is more interesting. Y'all know. I
always love a good a good marriage scandal, like something
going on in the marriage. I love it. I love it.
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I think it's good for TV. I'm really interested in
how she's gonna navigate through this because it's like she's
already caught him doing some shit like this before, and
now he's doing it again and he's on a plane
and they put it on Twitter and it was like
two tweets about it, so like people aren't lying, like
they've definitely seen him. Yeah it was. It was a tweet,
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so they definitely seen him, seeing him messaging other women
apparently in Laune Lingerie and yeah, like I don't know,
but apparently on the next episode, she's gonna address him,
and then he's going to of course deflect and then
put it on her and the rest of the ladies
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on Salt Lake City because he feels like they're messy.
But it's like, in reality, okay, they are a little
bit messy, but they're not the one.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
My person on Twitter who just like put you on blast, sir.
I'm like, right, they're on the casts. You are cheating,
like you are are doing weird stuff right doing. And
I'm not even gonna call it cheating because I don't
necessarily know if it's cheating or like what is the context?
Like is he just looking at the pictures or is
he actively messaging these women? Yeah, because him just looking
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at Instagram models or like suggestin or only fans photos, I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Like, that's that's a man. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, I'm like, y'all act like y'all don't do this.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, but also see.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
This is why they advertising that privacy screen that like
if people like you put it on there to make
it black. I'm like, see, that's why they're doing that.
But people like talk like y'all do y'all so reckless
without these privacy y'all crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Right, because you know how people are. They hold their
phone up, especially older people like they will hold the fun.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And they're making the script all big and I'm like, girl,
large test, it's like please stop across the run and
it's like it's like, yeah, they like spining. You are
the see clearly across. I am in Rose seventeen C
and you are over fifteen A and I could see
what the hell you're talking about. He's like, I'm not
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I'm not doing anything. It's not me.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, he definitely needs to shrink their tits down. Maybe,
but apparently he's looking at pictures, so he must have
zoom and some titties or something.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Okay, so this is so random, but I guess I
don't know if you watch on YouTube. Rodney's the voice
Bravo con so he I think he is going live
now and he put in his capture for his live video.
Wendy does not move with actually way alone.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
He said, what did you say about Wendy?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
He put he I guess he was at the panel.
He said r H O P. Panel was good. He
put that in all Wendy does not fool with Ashley,
like well, well nope, like proper notes don't fool with Ashley.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I wonder, well, yeah, I can see something.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Does not with Ashley, like oh oh, and you and
I have a feeling it probably is stemming from her
going then when it's going to the pen at one
of her events recently, when I tell you, I don't
care if I did so so many things wrong it
had been on site for me and her, I'm like,
(14:46):
oh me, you would have like, oh no, I think.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And we're definitely going to get into it when once
we talk about house, because I have thoughts on that
and we're going to talk. We're going to talk. But
as far as Salt Lake City, it's like that happened
with Bromin, so I am interested in that. I do
kind of want to see what's going on with now
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Meredith because apparently Meredith through a fit and she was
screaming on the plane and it was a lot of
shit going on. I don't know. I guess she was
yelling and upset with Britney.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Because Britney brought up seth which I thought happened like
maybe the last episode or two episodes ago. So I
kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I was like, it's like she just brought up like yeah,
who has the video and Seth and his mistress And
I'm like, girl, what.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, but that happened a few days prior to them bored.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's why I'm like, why are y'all fighting? And you
know now that you're like reminding me about the tweets
about Todd that even though everybody like she lost her
mind and people say, I don't know, there is no
no tweets the lights talk about and like, because hey, hi,
they talked about Todd cheating, nobody losing her shit on
(16:05):
this on this flight? No, no, But I was like, now,
why wouldn't Mary lie about this literally everybody on this
plane unless they had a production meeting, which I know
they did not, and Mary don't be playing this as
we can see. I'm like, the one that's given validity
to this is Mary. And I'm like, I'm not listening
(16:26):
to Lisa. I'm not listening to Heather because Heather changed
her story four times, like you talked to two people
and changed your story four times, Like I thought you
were awake. Now you're like it woke me up, like
time out? What?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh you know what? I didn't even notice that she
she did change, so can't.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Take her story. I'm like, first it was she was
awake for this, and then it was y'all woke me up.
I'm like, wait, time out, UCHIALI one mic? Which one
is it?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah? So you know what I don't. I'm not. I
honestly tune out when Heather talks like. I don't dislike
Heather at all, but I feel like in this particular situation,
Mary is the most credible one because she would not
She doesn't just go around and just lieth.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I was that she was looking at me like she
was looking like Meredith. I was there whack talking to
me like you're telling me what happened, right.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And then you know Meredith, She's like, I don't know
how Mary would have seen anything. She was like a
few seats back, I'm just like a girl, you threw
a fit, you're having nightmares, you're dreaming about that shit
like you did.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
That's what I was like, Yeah, Mary wouldn't need to
lie on you. And also she only I think she
always says something bro. She was like, brow when you
were so smart to not get on that plane, and
she didn't change her story between talking to Bronwyn and
talking to Meredith. I'm sorry, I kind of believed Mary,
but I don't know. Maybe it was just like it's
a plane and it was just loud, because I do
(17:59):
get with Mary that to say it, like, if it
was that bad the air marshall, I'm like, well, I
think you were f fighting, and we've actually seen other
people argue on the phones another thing out of their
way to come and get them. So I'm like, Meredith,
but I've seen arguments and you don't see no air marshals.
(18:21):
You just see them and the stewardess or a flight attendant.
There's no right air marshall coming out there for arguments.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But I'm also kind of confused too because they're in
first class, which means other people were around. So I'm like,
didn't nobody like nobody recorded that video, nobody no tweet.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
About it at all at the time. If you're tweeting
about God, nobody's tweeted. And apparently Heather said on watch
what Happens lab like right after the episode, like the
majority of the flight was them in production, So I
mean that could be part of the issue because like
if it was like they're taking up majority of the flight,
(18:58):
maybe it wasn't a whole bunch of civilians there. Maybe
that's no. I'm like, let me spee what you're gonna
talk about the hearing, because I swear marritg is gonna
act like what are y'all talking about?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But they would have got some kind of footage, I
would assume, unless maybe they're saving that for later.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Maybe they are.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Maybe because I'm forget, I would assume that they would
at least put on one camera and like show what's happening,
Like even if it's from a phone, they will record
that because.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That's the good phone cam. Maybe that's a good quality
film on airplanes, like the production because like usually when
they're on the phone, like on the flight, it's the
cast that is, like they have phone cams and they're
filming even though production is with them. It's like they
don't film on the flight. It's like the ladies are
filming on the flight. I'm interesting. I'm like, I'm like,
(19:47):
but still though, I'm like, okay, I got more questions,
but I'm sorry. I believe Mary.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah I did too. I did two, and I'm kind
of interested. One thing that I also did think about
was our nets Jin, like you know, when they were visiting,
when Meredith was visiting Brooks. I did notice that Seth
came separately. Maybe they like had like a thing later
on in the show, because I didn't finish that season,
(20:14):
but I did notice like in the beginning, Seth came separately,
and then Meredith would come, and then Seth would come,
and then Meredith would come, but they weren't necessarily like
in the same room. Okay, oh okay, So I did
notice that. So I'm like, there is something going on,
and I've been speculating and thinking about that since last
season because I did hear that somebody's marriage was on
(20:36):
the rocks. But then again, maybe they could have been
talking about Brown m if I'm remembering, I.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Mean, then has been those whispers, has been shouts at
this point, and then think about it, it was like
what I tell you, I'm like, I just brought this
up out of nowhere, But she just only brought it
up with Whitney, which I'm kind of glad that I'm
like the other people. But I think this really is
showing that her and Whitney are getting close because she
(21:05):
just brought it up, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, like
y'aps tend to talk about Meredith you just brought up
your husband. I'm like, what do you mean somebody else
needs plain etiquette? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
And I'm also kind of happy that she's forming like
a clique because she has Heather now and now she
has a Whitney it seems. And even though she took
up for Lisa Barlow, I don't really know where her
and Lisa's staying mm hmm, because I think really Lisa's
biggest villain this season. It's honestly, Heather.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'd say you thank you for saying that, because when
I tell you, ma'am, you can't say you are really
good friends with Lisa but then turn around and say
you are a snake girl. Oh yeah, And then I
know that Lisa looks so over time with her reaction.
It's like, however, karma space. I kind of couldn't understand
why she Heather like the fuck right.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Because it's like, you're always Heather does this thing, and
it kind of gets on my nerves sometimes, like where
she'll invite you out and she'll play nice with you,
and then she'll throw all and then she's like, oh,
but I'm not accusing you of anything, but it's like
you literally sat down and.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I was like, is she okay? Why? It's like you
are talking about other people being friends and I'm like,
so do you not hear how much of a friend
you are not? Because I'm like, it's very interesting that
you're doing all these things with all these women. But hey, Hi,
you literally lied about a woman assaulting you and then
(22:46):
came out, oh yeah, I was lying. I'm like, oh bitch,
we knew that. But it's like you literally were like
a as Tom Sanovo say, a battered woman. With Jenshaw,
you were being ridiculously loyal and like it was literally
like Stockholm syndrome with Jenshaw. But now you're pulling this.
It's like I'm married with you.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I just don't know, and I want to like
h Heather. I'm also gonna look at her Mormon. Her
Mormon showed it to interested in that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I'm like, she stunning. She really is to glow up
with the beat and there everything does.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I will say, she definitely stepped up.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
She beats down, she really does. But I'm like, I
wouldn't trust you as far as I can throw you.
If I was one of the laden soul, like I
would love to like she seems like a fun She
ain't like when Lisa called her a party girl. But baby,
you are a party girl.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So I have a question for you. Is one question
if you let's just say you're on the cast of
Salt Lake City and you had to choose one person
to confide in and tell all your deepest, darkest secrets.
Who would that be?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Oh, oh, that's a good one, because this is really interesting.
It's gonna be between Mary Cosby and Anji k.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Those are good choices.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And I was just like, because I would say Angie
unless we fight. Then all of a sudden, she was like,
let me tell you what this bitch said about you
time out that what did you say? You can't say
I was the vault for your secrets. I'm like, but
what she said was pretty shitty. And else seemed like
she had no problem feeling comfortable enough to say that
around you, right again, she kept a lot of stuff.
(24:29):
But also it would for me, it would be probably
her or Mary.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I would say Mary, because I feel like when angiek
Angik does that thing, like when she is mad at you, she.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Will it's a mad day. It's like mad day is
like She's like.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But what about when you were cheating on your husband,
and it's like, damn, I thought, do.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You think Brown might be a good person.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I think Brown is good if you're good to her.
I think she's kind of like the same. I feel
like she's the same like, but it depends on what
it is. I feel like, if it's something big, I
don't think she would share that unless you just totally,
you know, said something told one of her secrets, maybe
something about their case that she told her as about.
(25:12):
I feel like that would be the only time that
she would like steal the beings on what you have
going on in your personal life. But I do genuinely
think that Browin is a good person, like I do
think she has a good heart. And it did take
me a while to see that because I was kind
of confused, like I just didn't understand what she was giving,
And there are moments where I'm still kind of confused.
(25:34):
But then this most recent episode, I realized, I'm like, Oh,
she's in the marriage that she doesn't really want to
be in, but she has to be here financially, and
she also doesn't want to look crazy, but she's kind
of looking crazy because this man keeps going on flights
and doing all the shit. But like you said, I
would definitely have an open, like an open type of
(25:56):
situation to the point where when these things happen, you
don't look silly. But I also think that she probably
approached her husband about that and he shut it down.
Like I don't I just I can't imagine that by
now she wouldn't have brought that up. Like, hey, since
(26:17):
you keep you know, fucking around on the side or
you know, looking at other pictures and stuff like that,
and they keep catching you and all this stuff, do
you just want to have an open marriage? Like I
could see her kind of like seeing something like that,
but knowing the type of person she, you know, he is.
He's very manipulative, That's what it seems to me. And
(26:39):
it just seems like he would probably want to do
that for himself, but he won't want that for Bromlin.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Mh yeah, because I'm like now, I just think, like,
remember when she first got like before she even got that,
He's like, if stuff comes awry, don't come and complain
to me about it. Now, while I understand the concept up,
that's still her husband, right, you know, she's on this
reality show and it seems like he's loyal to up
(27:08):
to a point, and it's kind of like, you can't
keep doing get beat, keep having bad behavior and then
telling her don't look to me to support you. I'm like, girl,
if you were a stellar husband, guess what, she wouldn't
have to complain about you.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Sure, she definitely wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And I get it's like like first season for all
these husemens, and it seems like all of them, if
they talk too much, it's like, girl, what is going
I was like, Oh, girl, why are you married to
this man? That's why I'm like some of these husbands
like yeah, stop talking, don't talk. Don't talk so great
because he's not talking.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, but he's also the type of person that cares
about his image, and we can clearly see that because
every time she addresses something about their marriage or like
maybe something that he did, he's like, why are we
talking about that now? I always I already apologize, like
that's in the past. Like he does not want to
bring that up. He much try to put the focus
on all the women being shitty to Brahmin. So I
(28:12):
think he kind of likes it because, in a sense,
it distracts everybody from all the shit that he's doing,
and she can lock in on all the shit that
the other women are doing.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah. Yeah, well I'm gonna do it up to a point.
I'm like, yeah, because I do believe that whatever kind
of fraud case that she's allegedly involved in, I do
think that he had a hand and locking it. But
I think it was from a standpoint of making sure
he don't look bad, not necessarily, which is like he's
(28:45):
doing it because he helped me. I'm like, yeah, because
this is going to blow back on him too.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
That's a good point. That's a good point. Let me
get look, guys, let me know how you feel about
this episode of how size it's like. See but I
definitely want to talk Potomac with Stephanie because I need
to know your thoughts. What is going on. The first
thing I want to address, how do you feel about Angel?
(29:11):
Let's talk about it. Okay, Angel, get the fuck off
the show.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I need you to get off this show. Get off
my line, stop playing in my face. I need to
be like, honey, I don't know why you kicked one.
You don't really know Zell, and to actually say I
came to you like a big sister. I'm like, in
what world you just met her literally a fortnight ago,
(29:45):
and now she's your big sister. You came here as
Kiana's friend. I am so confused. Girl, Get off my line,
Get off my screen. I here's the thing. Are they
hazing you? Absolutely? Are you the one failing? Absolute? Ma'am,
I'm sorry. I looked at that photo that does look
different than you, and the thing about it is just saying, like, girl,
(30:07):
I'm like, she's not. It's so many first season mistakes,
rookie mistakes. She is making them left and right. It's
like literally watching a rookie quarterback fumbling everywhere, throwing like
literally throwing picks left and right. I am so sick
of her. I'm like, ma'am, and I don't think Angel's
(30:29):
a bad person. I get it because I'm so sorry.
If I just had a baby, I'm still pumping milk
out of my boob right now. The last person that's
gonna get in my face is somebody else who literally
has grown children. I had a custods aloud by now,
But ma'am, you keep literally you you were giving them
bullets for them to shoot you. Ma'am, I would have
(30:51):
just like if they're say, like I thought I was
getting caffish, girl, I'm just having fun with filters. Like
everybody else debt it. You are not debting these things.
You are letting them. And then you crying to the
sky Keana, your husband, the palm tree and like needless girl,
you are letting them like get you together by literally
(31:16):
just asking you questions and like, here's the problem. First
mistake you did was act big and bad when Keana
not down, when Keana is that she literally punked your ass,
and they looking at you like wait, and then here's
the You're not coming after Giselle, coming after Wendy and
I'm like, Wendy's not the issue here, baby at you
(31:38):
because one she Jaselle was like, girl, there's a whole
different person on his face. And then you getting mad
at Jazzy, who I like, man, but I so I
would fuck Jazzy so quick. I'm like, yeah, I can
see why you stole somebody's man. See that's allegedly. I'm sorry, y'all.
I'm sorry to see ya can see how she stole.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
But there I was like, that was a real messy
stuff me but down here for.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I see what I mean, they're with you. I can
see why he put it ring with it.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It looks good, like she looks very good.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Very Astley's bisexual ass is all over you. I'd be
all over you too.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, that was kind of I was like, damn, that
was kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
You see, so you're just using this and excuse to
touch these women because you like women. And I'm like,
he had a type. She likes her men white and
her women very pretty pretty and black listening. I'm the
only one who noticed that. I'm like, oh, she leave
that because she I'm like, because I'm like, see, you're
just waiting for one of these pretty black women to
(32:43):
give you the green light. You're looking for her yellow life.
Fuck that not even green yellow. They don't even need
your whole green.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
And I would like to see it as well. I
would like to see something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Angel I don't know, you tell me. I'm like, it's
messy because I get it. And black people are talking
about Tozelle, I'm like, Jizelle, it is hating people. She is.
That is her role on this show. This bensons. She's
the one to hate people. Well season two, because we
got new people. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
See, the thing is when it comes to Angel, I
do like I like everything that you said. I do
agree with. One thing that I also thought about is
she did recently have a baby, right, Like.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Maybe it was because it was like when they went
on the trip, she was still pumping, So maybe I
don't know how young this child was a postpartum yeah,
because she was like, like on the trip, She's like,
I'm pumping. I'm like, so because she have a three
year old that she is nursing. So I'm like I
was thinking, like when she was still pumping and they're like, she, well,
(33:45):
she just had a baby recently. I thought it was
less than a year.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
But roddy because I just I'm kind of confused with that.
But I also want to chalk it up and maybe
saying maybe it's but I don't want to diagnose anybody.
I'm just saying, like I want to give her the
benefit of the doubt because I just can't imagine that
somebody would just act the way she's been acting without
there being a valid reason behind it. Because it's like
(34:11):
I feel like she escalates things like, say, for instance,
the information and when Jazzy approached her about whatever off
camera behind the scenes. That was an off camera moment,
Like we wouldn't have even known about that had you
not brought it up. So, in my opinion, I'm like,
why would you take that and then make it a
(34:33):
big thing, especially during the moment because it was kind
of weird, like everybody's having fun, everybody's happening at a.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Time, raggedy woman, I'm like, helped the whip.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
So I'm just like, well, why why would this be
the time to bring that up?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Like let it come out at therein I'm like, because,
I mean, because Stacey and Wendy didn't mention like they
got into it. We don't know what it was about.
That was kind of it. They didn't say, like a girl,
what happened? Angel? You brought this up and then was like,
I don't know why you were bringing us up on
a trip at all. I'm like, I told to think
(35:11):
about it. I can see both sides of that, cause
it's like, Jazzy, why are you bringing this up on
the trip? Why didn't you just wait till y'all came back.
I'm like, but I wonder if Angel would still have
an issue with her bringing it up on camera just
just them to in the scene. Oh, I'm like, I
feel like you would still have an issue with her
bringing it up at all. He's like this is so old.
I'm like, yeah, but Jazzy just got on this show
(35:35):
and somebody who apparently knows you said, girl, I wouldn't
trust her as far as I can throw her, and
so she probably like looking like Okay, I won't trust her.
But then she's looking at the way y'all interacting like, Okay,
this is so weird because she's not treating me bad
to where are people getting this from?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, And that's the strange thing about about it when
it comes to Angel, like I feel like she played
it's nice with you, and then you guys will be
having a cocktail and listening to music, and then all
of a sudden, the room turns bread and she just
starts saying like, you know, fuck you, I know what
you did. I remember exactly what you did. You tried
to fuck out of me yesterday, and now I'm about
(36:16):
to cry and get on your ass. And it's just like, well,
where did this come from. I'm kind of drunk now,
so it's like I don't really understand it, especially being
in a position they're kind of a party.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
My girl, Like damn, I'm like, all right, I would
have preferred. But again, I'm not telling like I don't
I'm not a producer on this show. I'm not telling
production what to do. But when I tell you, you
know what would help more? If we had to sit
between Angel and Kiana and Angel just talking about this
with Kiana, I would actually actually get that. I'm like,
(36:52):
that will be your friend of twenty years, nineteen seventy five.
I had no idea. How many?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
What do you feel more comfortable? Because it's like they
are also trying to throw her a bone and be like,
you know, you have to be activated somewhat, like you
have to bring something to the show. You can't just
get offended because it's like people are in your business,
or people are speculating about something involving your marriage or
something that that was on social media, Like these are
(37:17):
very public things. You are on a show, You're on
the house You're on the Housewives. This is what the
show is about.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Is I'm like, who's this wag that was talking and
why she ain't get on the TikTok and make a
video right doing It's like, wait a minute, I'm surprised.
Why does Waggon make no TikTok? You tell us you
know what I.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Would like to know too. But on a positive note,
one thing that I will say about Angel I see
on YouTube today. I was just randomly scrolling and Angel
did a house tour with with her husband, and their
house is beautiful like who ever decorated the whoever decorated
the house decorated the hell out of the house from
(38:00):
top to bottom, in the backyard, the front yard, the
sides of the house, the basement in the house.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, I'm about to find it and said, I love
a beautifully style home. I love a beautifully style did
she say, Joselle leave us alone? But I will know it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
She's slowly getting her house together. I will say it
looked a lot better from the first time is.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Because I think, like that what the bar. I'm like, Okay,
this don't look terrible.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, she's doing it, but she's slowly, but surely, slowly
but surely.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It took like what what like nine seasons to get
the attire together.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
So you know, another thing that happened to we're seeing
Giselle still kind of have this little thing going on
with Stacy, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It's like, Jose, we do not care. We don't care
that Stacey is line and or line bowl, either straight
up line or line by ol mission because we don't care.
Because she could sell ice to a igloo. I'm sorry,
y'all need to hire her back on QVC show. She
can sell y'all some earring because I was like, damn,
(39:15):
I want them earrings. I'm like, I don't get those earrings, Stacy.
But I think it's really ridiculous because when me and
somebody brought up I'm so glad because I thought I
was going crazy when Mi it was fucking line. You
didn't give a shit, you actually said out y'all mouths.
(39:35):
Y'all did not care. Now all of a sudden, you
care about the truth. Oh we care about the truth now, No,
we do not. I'm like, lead staty alone, because this
whole thing with Monique and Chris Samuels and her Danny
Christ it is a nothing burger for one very very
very very very important reason. She don't fucking know her, right,
you don't know Bonique. She's not her friends. She was
(39:58):
not like Stacey was not on on the MONI was
on the cast. They don't even know each other. They're coworkers.
Now y'all are doing I'm like, y'all are dragging this.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Also, they're trying to make it something bigger than what
it is. Because even when Stacey, even when they asked her,
they're like, well, did you and Chris fuck? She was
like no, she had already addressed that. She said that
we didn't sleep. Again, they ask her again, and I'm
just like, well, damn, did y'all not hear the first
time when she said they didn't have sex? Like, why
are you keep asking this lady about her?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
She went on a day. It's like, even if she did,
she's like, did you fuck Chris Hamples? Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Why that's not what I heard? Lisa, What did you do?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I'm sorry? Why is she? Like? She doesn't know? She's
not Monique's friend?
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Right, So it's like.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
This good, Actually, we get it. You wanted to do
none in another pretty black women on this show. She's
not going to let you take your chequippen and draw
on her and lick on her. Okay, Monique is not
going to let you do it. Stick with Jase, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Think you know what Another thing I think they brought
that up because maybe they're saying like they're trying to
insinuate that Stacey was desperate to get on the show,
so she did that to maybe like push her way
onto the show. That's another reason I thought that maybe
she brought it up like that. But it's like even
still nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It was like like they probably went on a dinner,
but it's like and she probably knows who's Christanels is. Also,
Monique is not her friend. I'm like, why are you
making anything like this is just terrible? Why she broke
girl code? How Yeah, she doesn't know her.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
And I'm kind of excited to see their interaction too,
because I see that Monique is coming back some I'm like,
are her and Stacey gonna be cool?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Like? Nothing actually bring up? That's what I'm like, what
are y'all doing? I'm like, both of y'all like, oh
my god, Quitzy she trying to date him? Why are you?
I'm like, I know she's gonna becat now, but she
doesn't even have the interaction. That's like saying like, oh,
you dated Katy Ross first three husbands? Yes, No, I'm kidding,
(42:19):
she doesn't. But It's like that's like you're saying, like, oh,
you dated Katie Ros's first husband. Oh, Katy bro If
I did, why is why is this an issue? Well?
We know her, Okay, you know her, but here's the problem,
(42:41):
here's a problem. Sorry, they Stacey doesn't like to tell
the truth. I don't care about the truth. But it's
like I don't just didn't care when Miya big Maya
her big feet were lying. Do not sit here and
try to do this with Stacey. You did not care
when Mia was like, now is something you care about
the truth? You don't. You just feel like hazing Stacy
(43:01):
because hey, hi, Ashley don't want to talk about her
real life, and neither there's just Zelle, but Tzelle has
not wanted to really talk about her real life since.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
He m hm, you got a point, and I do
agree with that. When it comes to Stacy, it's like,
I just genuinely and you know that, I feel like
that is something that I haven't seen in a while. Actually,
like a housewife that doesn't necessarily tell the truth, but
you just don't care because you enjoy her so much,
Like I enjoy Stacy as a person in general, I
(43:30):
don't really need to know much about her life because
I feel like she plays just she plays a role
that's so different from anything that I've seen on housewives.
It's just like she's relaxed, she's fun, she sits back,
she's just being herself. The cards they just fall where
they may, and then it's like we just enjoy it.
(43:51):
We enjoyed it every episode, and so yeah, that's not
a big thing to me. Like knowing who she's dating
or knowing who she's with, would it be nice, Yeah,
but I just don't really care that much, Like when
they're like, oh, I really don't know anything about Stacey,
and I feel like Giselle is so hot and cold
with Stacy, Like one minute you don't really fuck with her.
(44:12):
The next minute, I guess she felt bad because she
was looking like a bully. So she's like, you know what, Stacey,
You're okay, And then the next minute, it's just like
we're back at square one. I feel so I'm like,
which one is it?
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I'm like, I don't girl, I don't care. And it's
like you bring up you try to copy Wendy's own business. Hey,
HI really like each other. So you're like you're just
like why are you weaponizing like this thing with Wendy
as if you and Wendy are cool. I'm like, okay,
so what is your deal with Stacey? And hey, hi
sidebar and TJ had all these receipts? Where the fuck
(44:49):
are they? Like you excuse me, sir? You were like
going to like ether her with all these receipts? Is he?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
And you found out that the friend was Shanola Hampton.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
And I was like, okay, what why did you tell
them this of all people to do?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
And it wasn't like her. I'm like, because I love Shanola,
Like I've seen her on Shameless, I've seen her on
that show that she had about the the kids, it
was like some kind of like law and order type show,
and told her on that. So it's like it was
kind of random to see that she may have been
(45:35):
the friend or was the friend. I still don't really know.
She's friends with them? Did you say it? Did you
not say it?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Like she said? So this is what it was funny
because Jelle said the person told me not to say anything,
and then she went and watch what happens out and
flat out said, oh, I'm one of his best friends.
I'm like, oh, so essentially a ship.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yeah, so that's what I got from there.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
You didn't have to tell us ship Like, I'm very
very confused here. Also, d J, you can't get mad
at her about the agreement that you said yes to.
Mm hmm, Sorr. Why are you making it saying like
she blackmailed you and made you do it. I'm like, son,
(46:19):
she asked me to do it, and you said, oh, okay, sir.
I'm like, I don't if she looked here, if she
rented a date, if you were a glorified escort on Potomacs,
so be it. Because you literally said yes, she did
not make you do it. Also, you were acting super
weird on the show. Was she asked you to act
(46:39):
to or just show up as her plus one? Pick
a struggle, sir?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Got her? Got her? But that's pretty much it when
it comes to Posama. Oh, another thing I want to
ask you, how do you feel about Ashley Darby and
these remixes? Have you heard of?
Speaker 2 (47:01):
I'm sorry you, I'm sorry you feel like we don't
have nothing doubt?
Speaker 1 (47:08):
No, Like the remix is like this song.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
First of all, when I tell you when Candice Dialer
Bassett Howard university graded or maybe she has a graduator
yet she might be still working on her degree. Flat out.
Sad said she over uses auto tune. Folks were telling
her to you're being a hater and shut the f up,
(47:33):
and then here come fue ahead with this extremely auto
tuned version of killing me softly, and I'm like, I
need to know, I need a look here. I need
Mama Odie to call to d m me so we
can put her will on her. And I'm like, I
need you to find the estate of ROBERTA. Flack because
(47:54):
I need you to find out how to haunt her.
How dare you?
Speaker 1 (47:59):
I just wanted to just stop, like it's actually like Ashley,
I just want her to stop.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
My girl. I'm like, stop, let me tell you something.
Actually see Stacey and me say this to her face.
You need to go find you a vocalal yeah, because
how do you sharp and flat at the exact same time.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
And it's like she's going on tour with it. It's
like these little mini tours where she performs at these
being used and in my hand, I'm.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Just like, please leave us ahead.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
I need you to come forward. Who's booking that? Like
I need to know.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
I get it. She seems like a fun time she
is she really, I'm like, let her do that, let
her be a drag.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
King drag brunch and it was fun?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Was it fun?
Speaker 1 (48:49):
It was fun? She did so it was winn in
South Florida. In the whole time. We had the best time.
She was the best host. I think she's great at that.
Actually he's actually a really good host.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Like for like she is a good time she she's
also a fun girl, like a fun girl. It seems
like that is her lane. You going into fio and
overusing auto tune. It's just like and when people keep
putting up them videos of people singing in front of
fantom like that literally is how it sounds.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
I don't really hear the auto tune, You're like, you
don't send me for really, I don't really hear the
auto tune like I just it does not sound good.
But I don't hear the auto tune like I just
feel like it's just bad.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Because that's the thing. It's so bad because she overused autune.
That's why it sounds like robot or her.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Singing like so I did hear her tease like the
little the actual song and it's gonna be like a
club electronic type of Mit says she's doing too killing
me softly. And I did hear autotune in that. Now
(50:04):
when she's performing live, I don't necessarily hear the autotune.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Look, I just that's the thing. I think you can
only do auto tune in the studio. So I think
that's why she sounds sharp and flat.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Oh okay, okay, because yeah, I'm like, I don't really
hear the autotune when she when she seems live, but
I just hear it more so it can put it
in the mic, like it's like a setting that they
can do. But I do hear it on that track
that she teams.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
It was just like, man, please see, that's the thing
you basically want, roberta flat tooth haunt. You sit in
your sit at the foot of your bed and stay
you note. I will literally rip out your linux.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Stop singing merse shit, but boo before I let you go,
I want to know do you have any final thoughts
on Housewives of Potoma? Honestly, housewives in general.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I am very proud of Wendy showing up to Broad Yes,
I was surprised. I didn't think she was going to come,
and the fact that she is still she's very much
and taking a page out of Stats's books to go
and still I arrive. I think it's very brave. I
don't think I would have. I'm not saying that because
(51:16):
I think I did something wrong or I'm like I
feel guilty. I'm like, I don't know if I would
want that kind of like energy. I don't know if
I would. But in fact, I'm like, Wendy has my
respect and that's why I'm sitting here, like your honor,
my client, be innocent. I this is a it's really
(51:39):
interesting to say. Even though Angel is draining me, I
think she needs to just like you know, be put
back in the oven and cooked a little bit more
and then come back. I think You're like, man, you can't,
you can't keep doing this, and Keana leave me alone.
Keanna just leaves me alone because I'm like, why are
you bringing up? You brought it? Like, what why are
(52:03):
you bringing up like we've washed it? Why did she
bring it up? Because, bitch, when y'all were sitting up
at here up in Baltimore City arguing, you brought it
up that she don't like her. You brought this up, ma'am.
What is with you? An angel? It's like, y'all don't
understand y'all like, why y'all talk about it? Because she
brought it up on the camera. He said, you brought
(52:23):
I'm like, stop bringing this up on camera that you're
not comfortable talking about. Well, page out of Justesselle's book.
Why do you think she's gonna be bringing something shit up?
There's a lot of people who don't bring it up.
Please stay to you alone. I know she lying, but
if y'all don't care about me, I do not bring
this up.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
I definitely agree.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
One got a new bird, and I'm gonna be watching
this bird. And if I don't see that bird and
it's like six months, I'm calling the SPCI. That's the
second bird.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
But I think you are crazy.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
But I will say and the like as much as
I give fever to Monique, Monique the meta Joe Samuels
walked in that it's not my name is, but I
will say Monique Samlen's is one of the most beautiful housewife,
(53:17):
the best styled housewife came on the show. No Notes
Ever is Monique Samius. That woman up. She upped the
entire grade, for the entire cast walking in the door.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
I don't know why I thought you were gonna say,
Kyle Richards, girl, I just.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Wanted to be messy that lady that will go and
just just love your ladies. Honey, we don't care.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
And I agree it is definitely I said the same thing.
I'm like, I just know we do not care. I care.
She could stay at home.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Mos Suton, you better shut the hell up. We're gonna
send you home to your mama, so she could be
mean to you.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
I mean, I feel bad about that, but you know what,
after last season and how they did Garcia, I don't
feel bad for any of them.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Apparently there's a clip where talking about like where something
said she is like, it's I flowed on Twitter at
shout out to the brook last because she said that's
the stuff in the same but someton said she was
glad that left that Garca left the show because the
men she bonded with the other women. Girl, what wow?
What garcol literally was the person standing up for you.
(54:29):
You were the one crime because they weren't nice to you.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
What they did. That's all I'll say on there. I
hope they get what they get and don't be upset
about it.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
Nope, what you get, see what you got.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
How it goes. But boo, where can the people find you?
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Oooh not at Bravo, Michael, But you get that. I
really do appreciate this air, and this is always applying.
It's always a pleasure, always a pleasure. You can find
a Micha Mins podcast wherever you find podcasts. You can
find me Instagram, I am on x. I'm also on
spill spill. It's hard for me to like remember my
(55:11):
thing on spill by Monkel minutes is on spell but Instagram,
x uh, Facebook, Mocha minutes is all the same. Handle.
If you'd like to buy me a coffee, buy me
a coffee dot com backslash Mocha minutes. Also, if you'd
like to email me because it's fine, y'all can email
me I love it Woke minutes at gmail dot com.
They'll be like, well, actually, I'm like, that's fine. I
(55:33):
might answer you don't.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
And it's been a pleasure as always having you. You
already know when you're ready for me to come on,
just because you know I have a job. Now I
have two jobs.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
So it's me. I was like, wait a minute, hold on,
Aaron is a whole corporate professional listen is corporate boots.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
I'm trying. I'm trying to be. I'm trying so hard
to be. They keep testing, but you know, I'm definitely
trying to be. But yes, I would love to because
I just want to connect. I miss talking Bravo, I
missed talking to people, our cousins, our family, and I'm
just so happy that you came on to chat.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
You're back on the mic, I said, a minute, listen, yeah, yeah,
you know, when he is away, I will come back
and play for you guys and you know, talk with
the other.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
I'm really excited. But thank you, against Stephanie.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Thank you, thank you so much for having me, and
by thank you than
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