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April 19, 2025 86 mins

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Avoid God's wrath by joining Ben, Jonny, Adam and returning guest James Sholl, pastor of Toronto’s Wellspring Worship Centre, as they ask 'why did Jesus (have to) die?' Is penal substitution just divine child abuse? Does Jürgen Moltmann's solidarity theory hold up? And most importantly, how many times can Ben say the words "lick out" before we never want a Caramel Egg again? Plus learn about Saint of the Week, Trevor Carter, the Windrush-generation communist who co-founded Notting Hill Carnival.

Content warning: May contain traces of heresy

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