May 30, 2025 • 26 mins
On Ferrari Friday's, William Ross from the Exotic Car Marketplace will be discussing all things Ferrari and interviewing people that live and breathe the Ferrari brand. Topics range from road cars to racing; drivers to owners, as well as auctions, private sales and trends in the collector market.
In Episode #38 - William delves into the world of Ferrari, focusing on various models and special variants throughout the brand's history. He discusses everything from the 348 Challenge to the newly released 296 Speciale. Highlights include conversions and factory-built variants like the 355 Challenge, 360 Challenge Stradale, 430 Scuderia, and the 458 Speciale, among others. William also shares his experiences driving some of these cars and touches on their market trends and collectability. Highlights also include discussions about modifications, manual swaps, and the appeal of track-oriented road cars.
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00:00 Introduction to Ferrari Fridays; Shoutouts and Sponsors
01:22 Event Announcement: Rock+Revs Automotive Festival
02:03 Special Models Overview
03:09 Ferrari 348 Challenge: The First Variant
05:00 Ferrari 355 Challenge: Factory-Built Excellence
08:43 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale: A New Era
12:24 Ferrari 430 Scuderia: The Ultimate Road Racer
17:26 Ferrari 458 Speciale: The Last Great Naturally Aspirated V8
18:57 Ferrari 488 Pista and F8 Tributo: Turbocharged Evolution
21:34 Ferrari 296 Speciale: The New Benchmark
23:28 Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes
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As part of Ferrari Fridays, William Rossfrom the Exotic Car Marketplace will
be discussing all things Ferrari andinterviewing people that live and breathe.
The Ferrari brand topics range fromroad cars to racing drivers to owners,
as well as auctions, private salesand trends in the collector market.
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So anyways, onward we're gonnatalk about special variance.
And the reason I wanted to touch onthis is Ferrari just dropped the 2 9 6
Speciale, obviously how Ferrari worksin their model line up the 2, 9 6 was
supposed to be like a Dino type deal atentry level, at half a million dollars
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entry level, and you had your SF 90, thenyou got obviously into your other, you
know, your V twelves and stuff like that.
They didn't come outwith a variant in the.
Middle model, I guess you could say,as they've done in the past, you know?
So we're gonna go through thatand work our way up to the 2 9 6.
'cause I will say it's, they dida fantastic job and I wanna say I
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think the 2 9 6 is kind of flyingunder the radar regards to value
and excitement and enjoyment.
It's a great car.
It is wickedly fast.
I mean it is.
Awesome.
I got a ride in one a littlewhile back and uh, wanted to drive
it, but I wasn't gonna push it.
But hey, I got a quick ride in it.
It wasn't anything crazy,but unbelievable car.
It's great.
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It kind of got me on the bandwagonin those cars, but it wasn't
as aligned as the SF 90 is onelectric and stuff like that.
But anyways, we'll get to that.
So we are going to start.
Out in the beginning, Ferrarimaking these race car road variant
models that a person could, canget, still buy used, what have you.
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First one, it was a conversion kit.
This was for the 3 48 challenge.
Ferrari to kind of boost its image andkind of, you know, draw up more interest.
You know, they came up with theidea, let's have a one make race
series for our owners and what haveyou, and it's been very successful.
I will give you that.
And it's great racing too.
You got some guys that are pros inthere, but majority, almost 90, 95%
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of the guys running that are justamateurs that got a lot of money.
So the first variant they cameout with was a 3 48 challenge.
It was a kit that the dealerinstalled for someone that wanted to.
Put it on and go racing.
Prior, the factory did some themselvesas well, but there was just a kit
that they could buy and basicallythey didn't really do any motor
upgrades or anything like that.
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It was more along the lines ofsafety equipment, reducing weight,
stripping stuff out, giving somerace seats, everything like that,
fire extinguishers, that kinda stuff.
Front toe hook, anything like that.
So they really did not.
Do anything crazy with it.
It was more just to kind of lightenit up and tighten it up, go racing
and like you said, to could get itinstalled at their local dealership
and get it there and go racing.
So, but that was basically the first one.
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Now you do see people taking notes.
'cause that was the one thing aboutit is you could revert the car back.
To basically road legal version, butyou're not really doing all that much to
it, to really all also make this thing,hey, it's not street legal anymore.
'cause you weren't like takingthe, you know, headers off or
doing anything crazy on this car.
You got people running challengecars, driving 'em on the street.
You just slap the license plate on it.
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So, I mean, there really wasn'tmuch to that, you know, and
3, 4, 8 gets a lot of hate.
Kind of one of those odd models.
They took the uh, side strikes, youknow, kind of copying off the test.
Then Luca Dilo, however you pronouncehis last name, came on board during that.
And um, he didn't have much involvementin the 3, 4, 8, but the next one where
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he did have the 3 5 5, which is one ofmy favorite Ferraris, it's a great car.
It's just, it's small.
It's got that V eight.
You put the right headers and pipe on it.
Oh my God, this, thatthing sounds fantastic.
Kind of almost along thesame lines as a 3, 4, 8.
There's a 3 5, 5.
Challenge that was built.
Now this was built directly fromthe factory because they changed
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a lot of stuff in regards to rollcage, bucket seats, the safety
harness, fire extinguisher, enginecutoff, radio controls, a different
steering wheel, lightweight exhaust,rear wing competition, clutch.
They pulled the brakes from the F 40.
Put those brembos on there as well.
18 inch wheels and slick, solid suspensionbushings, all that kind of stuff.
Change some aesthetics.
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Perfect.
You know, black grill, that kindof stuff, and just lighten it
up and everything like that.
They only built about 108 of those.
Here's the thing, depends whenyou ask, there's probably over
300 cards that were converted.
People could buy the stuff and getit done themselves, but there were
108 that were built by the factory.
But like I said, there's probably over 300of 'em out there roaming the world that
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were just done with the conversion kit.
I have no idea.
But again, once you went thatthing, that car obviously
racetrack only, not road legal.
I'm sure there are people out therethat did what they had to do and
modified it to make it road legal.
You know, the things that are on therethough in regards to the clutch and all
that kind of stuff, but make it prettysketchy to try and drive on the street.
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'cause probably frythe clutch in a minute.
Obviously you're not gonna run slickson the street, stuff like that.
So.
It just makes for a very, very, very harshride if you didn't change a few things.
But you know, it's that cool.
Look, people all say, oh, it'sa race car for the street.
You know, everyone's always going for,so there's a lot of guys out there that,
you know, run all those items on there.
They change up the grill, thatkind of stuff to give it that look.
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Now, here's the one thing though, inEurope over here as well, I'm sorry,
you could get the ano handling package,which gave you a little bit wider.
Front track, stiffer springs, thickeranti-roll bar drilled and ventilated.
Brakes, competition, challenge,whatever source, steering, rack,
challenge grills and stuff like that.
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The Ferrari shields, you know, you gotyour carbon fiber insert, stuff like that.
So you cover seats and that's whenthat F1 transmission started coming in.
Everyone was, oh, 'causeit's the cool new thing.
So people are like, well I wanna getthat F1 flappy paddle transmission.
So sadly, out of the a hundred carsthat were delivered to the US market,
74 had that F1 paddle shift transmissionwith only 26 having a six speed manual.
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Obviously the six speed manualcars are probably about $300,000.
Now, if it's gonna have thefear auto handle, it's a
rare car, rare package on it.
I mean, it could be more, I mean,especially if you got low miles,
everything like that, and coloredcombo, the whole nine yards.
Not to say you couldn't do a, aswap on the F1 tra ones that were
done, but I mean, then you're kindof defeating the purpose because
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you have a limited edition model.
Like I said, that was a fiorano.
But now in Europe, you could getin the last year, three, five.
Five was a fiorano handlingpack that says Europe only.
So, I mean, you could import these things.
Now, obviously it didn't affect allthat many cars that were done 'cause
of last year, everything like that.
But, uh, Fiorano is the one youwant to get, but obviously, again,
you go talk about the challenge.
You know, that was the race car.
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So again, building thesefirst two was along the lines.
Okay, it's basicallymaking a really cool car.
But then they realized, hey,there's a market for a road
going race version of these cars.
People really want it.
'cause again, you know, majoritypeople get these cars, they
drive 'em on the weekends.
They're not like doing cross countryjaunts or anything like that, but
they want to have that feeling.
So they go out on a Sunday drive.
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And everything like that.
So they saw the market and they kindof started tapping into it a bit and
went from there with it on the 3 55.
Got a little more serious spot.
Now the 360, the next model was ahuge jump in regards to performance,
everything like that from the 3 55to the 360 aesthetic wise, you know,
aluminum, everything like that.
It was a big, big jump.
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Flappy paddle gearbox startedbecoming a little more prevalent
in regards to production numbers.
You wanted to get the challengestrad built by the factory going
out, but that was a road going car.
'cause this is when Ferri starteddoing the race series and these
things were race car specific.
They made them serious race cars.
It wasn't just making a couplechanges to a road going version.
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And there you go.
They were making hardcore race carsthat by now for the Ferrari race series.
But what they did withthe challenge to Dolly.
Is they tweaked, obviously,aesthetic wise, better breathing.
They increased the horsepower up to425 horsepower, dropped a weight by a
decent amount, flappy paddle gear basket.
You couldn't get a manual even though youcould order a 360 with the factory manual.
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You couldn't get the challengethrough all in a manual.
Now you could do a swap on these aswell, but the gearbox, they tweaked
it so it's faster gear changes.
That was kind of the one thing about thefirst generations of the F1, 'cause all
it was, is basically hydraulic systemattached to a standard manual training.
It, it wasn't like a dual clutch.
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So everything like that, it wasn'treally designed to do it that way.
They just modified the existingtransmission to be able to do it
where you had the flappy pallets.
But you know the system they using,they improved it that way And, and
what's interesting, I haven't heardor seen many people that have taken a
challenge and done a manual conversion.
I know they're out there.
I know people have done it.
That would be my route.
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That's what I would do.
I'd get the challenge, swap it, put in amanual transmission in it and have at it.
You know, why not?
I mean, you could even do is just buya whole transmission, pull out that
one one and just swap that one in.
That would be cool.
But.
There's only about a little over a1200 challenge modalities produced.
Rare, yes.
Rare.
No, I mean, it is, you know, that's quitea few cars, but you know, it's gaining
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popularity in regards to getting, Imean, obviously the 360 is a popular car.
It's a great, I wanna say entry level.
'cause now you got the 3, 5, 5with the manual gearbox going
through the roof, so to speak.
They're more expensive than a. 360manual is now, which is kinda odd.
You think it'd be the other way around.
But right now in the market,that's the where things are going.
But in the next couple months, thingscould completely change 'cause of
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the what's going on in the world.
And here in America, youwill just leave it as that.
I'm not gonna get political, you know?
So the 360, obviously it'sa great car to get into.
You can still work on that car yourself.
Majority of it, really not much.
You can't do yourself if you knowhow to turn a wrench and if you
can't figure somebody, look onYouTube, someone's probably done it.
You can get it figured out.
So that's what's great about thosecars that they're very, I don't
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wanna say simplistic, but you don'thave computers running everything.
You don't have like massiveamount of electronics in the car.
So you can still do these things yourself.
I mean, you can technically almost do swapyourself if you want to go into a manual.
I wouldn't recommend it.
I would spend the money, send it toa shop because you gotta get the, uh,
computer flashed, all that kinda stuffto understand that hey, now you, it's
a manual gearbox, everything like that.
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But the challenge should all, isreally kind of gaining momentum
out there in the marketplace.
People, I don't wanna say allof a sudden realizing or coming
that fact, but it's a great car.
I mean, it's a really great card.
I mean they sound beautiful.
You put, you know, pipes on that,some headers, they just scream.
It's an awesome, awesome card.
I don't wanna say inexpensive torun, but you know, you still have
the scenario where you got the belts.
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You gotta pull the motor.
Now if you know what you're doing,you really don't have to pull the
whole motor out to do your belts.
But you know, it makes it easier 'cause.
Normally when you do the belts, you'regonna be a lot of other things that
you're gonna wanna change anyways 'causejust 'cause of wear and tear on the car.
So it's kind of just, you know,preventative maintenance type situation.
So that's what I recommend.
Next step up, we're gonna go intoprobably one of my, again, more
favorite models is a four 30 scud.
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We're taking, you know,the race car variance.
Out of this equation.
'cause we're talking about the road goingcars, but you know, obviously they had
the four 30 race cars challenged GT three,GT, you know C, all that kind of stuff.
Those were built specific race cars only.
You were not gonna changethose into street cars.
I mean, push comes to shove.
I'm sure you could, but it just, it wouldbe not fun to drive it on the street.
So we are talking about theroad going special versions.
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The ones that you run to kinda hunt downfour 30 F1 tranny cars were more prevalent
in production than the six speed manuals.
You know, out in the marketplace,a four 30 factory manual car.
You know, it's kinda hard to save valuewise 'cause people are asking stupid
numbers but they're not getting 'em.
I've seen several cars that have beensitting for months, months at a dealership
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'cause they're just asking stupid money.
And they're slowly coming down.
There's one sitting outthere that's yellow block.
It's got high, higher miles.
It's almost 50,000 miles onthe car, and I think they've
had this car for over a year.
Now they're down at like two 30, Ithink now 230,000, something like
that, which isn't too bad, but I mean,I think that's maybe 175,000 car with
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that mileage, everything like that.
It is a factor, male.
It is a. Factory, yellow car.
Some of these dealers, there's anotherone up there in Northeast that, you
know, he gets his hands on quite afew, but he was asking half a mill for
some of these and he's had 'em forever.
So, factory manual cars arestupidly expensive, or I should say
stupidly priced out in the market.
Now, not to say that'swhat they're going for.
Again, market adjustments.
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But the problem is you got adealer, he's got X dollars into it.
He's not gonna take a loss,so he'll just sit on the car.
'cause at some point in timeit'll come back to them.
Dollar wise, in regards tovalue, you know what you can
sell it for, but you never know.
So, but anyways, we aretalking about a four 30 scud.
This car is probably.
Next to the one we're gonna talkabout next in the 4, 5, 8 speciality.
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The four 30 scud is afabulous, fabulous car.
Again, it is.
Got the flat paddle transmission on it,but they've got this thing dialed in.
It's kind of that point.
It's like, yeah, I know peoplehave swapped in a six speed manual
into a scud, and it's been awesome.
It's probably what I would do be I'd buya higher mileage, one swap in the manual.
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Have some fun.
Everything about the car's tightened up.
They've done some fantasticthings with just everything.
Increase the horsepower or do some weight.
It's just a fabulous, fabulous carif you ever get the opportunity to
drive on, I highly recommended it.
It's fantastic.
Can't talk much about it now,and here's what we get into now.
All of a sudden, they also do you have thethe 16 m. That the four 30 could get in.
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And that was basically just theconvertible version of the scud.
So that was kind of a new variant inregards to coming out with these road
going race car variants of the car.
So now all of a sudden you could geta convertible because there's demand.
There was the demand for it.
So they got 'em out thereand they built a few of 'em.
Those things are crazy moneyout in the market 'cause they
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are just a very, very rare car.
They only did about 500 of 'em were built.
Getting your hands on one,you're probably in the.
Oh, God, I don't know.
I, I hate to put a number on it.
Three quarter of a mill, easily, 500 tothree quarter of a million, depending on
options, colors, everything like that.
I mean, they're not cheap, but thatfour 30 scud is a, it's an awesome car.
It is an awesome car.
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My garage, I love to have, Iwould do a 3 5 5 factory manual.
I would do a four 30 factoryman within a four 30 scud.
With the manual swap, something alongthose lines or kind of vice versa.
I know, I, I don't know.
I do something along thoselines with the four 30.
I definitely have a four 30 and thestable, and then a, the next car
we're talk about a 4, 5, 8 speciale.
The, I, I think those would bethe three that pop in there.
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Well, William, I mean those are alljust, you know, eight selling the cars.
I mean, how different are,they're very, very different cars.
Totally different drivingexperiences between them.
You know, it's just a great car.
But the four 30 scud.
You could drive that car, you know, a lot.
You could almost say daily.
It pretty much you could, youknow, but it's a great, great car.
I mean, again, if you everget the opportunity to drive
one, definitely take it.
Even if you just puts it around and youcan't go more than 30 miles an hour.
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It's a great car.
I mean, it's just, it's obviously thepinnacle of the four 30 production.
Borrowing all the the 16 M as well.
But I mean it's just, it's a great car.
If you had really deep pockets, youget two scuds, one you keep with the
flappy paddle and another one you doa manual swap on it and have some fun.
Now I know old Freddy VARs down there, hetook the reco and had it with the scud.
He put that six speed man,and he absolutely loves it.
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He did a knockout job with that.
That's fantastic.
I wanna give a shout outif you are looking to get
that done for a manual swap.
I know everyone says E-A-G-A-G, you know?
Yeah.
They make the opponents, but there'sa couple other entities out there
that also make the kit and talk tothe guys at Ray Hall Performance.
They're getting into that.
I know when, uh, I visitedthem last year and did a tour.
Everything like that, theyare getting into doing that.
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I would highly recommend, especiallyif we're in this area, you know, EA G's
backed up, but hey, I mean, like I said,there's other places you can do it, but.
I would definitely give the guys atRay Hall Performance a shout out.
If you're looking at wanting a manualswap done on any of your Ferraris,
they would be a great shop to go.
Now, the next one that everyone istalking about that is just going for crazy
dollars and everyone's opinion is thelast great mid engine Ferrari, naturally
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aspirated Ferrari into 4, 5, 8 Speciale.
The apparent version of it as well.
Normal aspirated V eight screamed,and this thing sounds so good.
You put the right, especiallyheaders and pipes on this thing.
Oh my God.
And they're just going up in value,you know, they're just fantastic cars.
Again, this is, if you ever have theopportunity to drive a 4, 5, 8 especially,
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I'll definitely do it because you'relike, oh my God, this car's spectacular.
It is basically the four 30, obviouslynew body that, but it's just so refined.
It's, I mean, they justnailed it with that car.
Absolutely spectacular.
If you only get one.
I would recommend, depending on yourbank account, I'm a manual guy, so it's
like, you know that 4, 5, 8 Specialeis just a very, very special car.
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Yeah.
So again, they tighten everything up, morehorsepower, a little more torque, flappy
pallet transmission, just unbelievable.
Zero to 60 and under three seconds.
It's just got everything.
And again, it's a comfort of car that youcould drive that thing across country.
You know, you could dailythat car, do everything that,
I mean, it's just awesome.
Awesome car they.
Really got everything put together.
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You know, before they had to switchover to what we're talking about next.
You know, going into the turbosand stuff like that, 'cause of
emissions and everything like that.
It was just something that they had to do.
Hands were tied in regardsto, you know, environmental
regulations and stuff like that.
So it sucks, but it is what it is.
So, 'cause we go into thenext model, the 4 88 p stop.
This is actually starting to gainin the marketplace in regards to
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value, obviously go turbocharge.
The cars are gorgeous looking,there's no doubt about that.
Got that scoop in the front,gorgeous, gorgeous car.
They also made a convertibleversion of the 4 8 8 P stuff.
They borrowed a lot ofstuff from the challenge.
Increased the horsepower to 720horsepower, seven 10, depending
on how you look at the numbers.
But anyways, this was definitely heavy,heavy influence from the challenge
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race car versions of this car.
That's where the one, thescoop in the front comes on.
I driven four eight, butI've never driven a pizza.
Great car.
I mean, it's gorgeous looking.
And again, these are starting togain value in the marketplace.
It's still a good value right nowbecause it's kind of overlooked.
'cause everyone's going after the 4,5, 8, especially out, you know, this
is one, if you're looking to havea car, you wanna keep it long term.
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Obviously you can jump into 4,5, 8, especially out, that's,
that'd be a great buy for it.
'cause that's just gonnagain a value no matter what.
And I think it'll gainfaster than the four eight.
Well.
You got good solid money on a 4 8 8 pizza.
I think it's one of those ones.
Obviously you're gonna have your yearlymaintenance costs, but I think it's
one where if you bought it now and infive years you sold it from what you
paid for it, minus obviously you haveyour maintenance costs and running
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costs throughout those five years.
So, I mean that's money.
Just, hey, that's gone because hey,it is price of admission, so to speak.
I think you will get it back, whichpaid for it, if not even making
some money and on where things go.
So beautiful, beautiful car, youknow, really leaning heavily on the
race cars, pulling stuff from that.
And then, you know, we get into thenext model, which is the F eight tribu.
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It has the same engineon the four 80 p stuff.
Bodies tweaked, obviously tickledwith the flappy paddle gearbox.
It's got a lot more hor, you know,not a lot more, but you know,
it is got a bit more horsepower.
It got the latest side slip, angle controlstuff, you know, all the electronic
nanny aids and all this kind of stuff.
You know, it's, it is a great looking car.
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F eights are kind offlying under the radar too.
I think it's a great car.
Especially, you know, they came outwith the SF 90, I think the SF 90.
Really people are losingtheir ass on that car.
Hundreds of thousands ofdollars spending all this money.
'cause they had to, you know, buythat to and other things to be able to
get in line to buy something special.
So I think these earlier cars arereally gaining more value in people
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wanting to get their hands on them.
The F eight tribu again, I thinkyou'd have to go out and look at the
numbers, but you know, obviously Ithink you're gonna get a 4 8, 8 piece
there before you get an F eight maybe.
You know, looking at the caritself, I think the 4 8 8 piece has
got a more aggressive look to it.
I think it looks better now.
We are gonna go into what.
Ferrari just came out with,and that is a 2 9 6 Speciale.
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I wanna say they did ahell of a job with this.
Here's the one thing on these cars,obviously, you know, they have
race car for the race series andfor the endurance race and stuff
like that, they went down to 2 9 6.
So that's a car that's race.
So it makes sense is what you want.
But again.
It's supposed to be the entry level,but you know, you get in the specialty
and be, you know, and especially when wetack on everything, the whole nine yards.
It, it, it's a great looking car.
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People have been drivingsince, it's unbelievable.
It's got over 800 horsepower from thatV six rear wheel drive, so, you know,
not four wheel drive, so you don't haveall this added weight in the front.
And the settle fi Ronald package,which I'm sure everybody will tick off
on the order box, is over 40 grand.
You know, you wanna carbonfront wheels another 34 grand.
I mean, these things are not cheap.
What you are getting out of thisin regards to a V six A horsepower,
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everything like that, it's unbelievable.
You know, shaving some weightand obviously it's sold out.
That's no brainer there.
They did a really, really good job.
But again, you know, what they starteddoing more along the lines is, you
know, they made it more obviously.
A road variant as compared to, youknow, how they did it in the past,
you know, like they deal with theSF 90 xx, you know, all the XX
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cars prior were just track only.
Now they made that, you know, you candrive down the road, but you know,
these cars are getting priced justobscenely, but they're sell out.
People are buying them.
I like that.
It, this is a great car is, likeI said, you're not really dealing
with a lot of the stumped SF 90 has.
It's not bloated.
I would love to be able to get myhands on one of these and drive
it just to feel what it's like.
It's getting very good accolades.
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It's like this is what theSF 90 should have been.
So it'd be interesting to see, 'causeobviously the SF ninety's not being,
they're not producing anymore, right?
I dunno.
I've heard different things.
They are, they're not, whatever.
I don't know.
It's just, I'm not a fan at all of theSF 90, so I really don't follow it.
Not my, my niche.
But anyways, like I said,this 2 9 6 is gorgeous.
I can't wait to see one.
He is in person.
It's an absolute beautiful car.
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That's your little walk down historythere with the uh, V eight mid-engine
special version cars that Ferrari'sput out throughout the years.
Some really, really specialcars they've created.
Like I said, in my mind, the 4, 5 8Speciale would be at the top of the list.
Then you're gonna go to the four30 scud and then after that, well,
I'm a fan of the 3 5 5, so I wouldgo after 3 5, 5 somehow some way
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obviously, because that's manual.
Straight out.
The 360 child.
He is supposed to be great, but.
If I'm gonna have get a four30 scud, why would I do that?
You know, the only thing I'd havefor is to swap in a manual into it.
So it was like if I was able to get thoseother, I'd buy the 360 channel, try and
swap, put the manual on it, and keepthe floppy paddle gearbox in the scud,
maybe, I don't know, wish, wish, wish,right, but then going down to there,
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it's kind of a mixed bag in regards tothe 3, 4, 8 would definitely be last.
You know, I'm not a hater onthat car, but you know, there's
a lot of things wrong with it.
It's a very finicky car.
It can get very expensive to keep going.
You know that 4 8, 8 pizza, that's astunning car that's up there as well.
But as you get into those cars, youknow, I don't know how so much on
the 4, 5, 8, how much that couldreally work on yourself, but I
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think to a little bit of an extent.
But once you start getting past that withthe, so you're getting to a realm where.
The only way you're going to get serviceon it is take it to a dealer or someone,
a mechanic that knows what they're doing,paying through the nose or hourly rate,
but you know, it's price of admission.
So you gotta take what you can get.
But that's, that's, I like aboutthe four 30 especially as well as,
you know, that four 30 and 360.
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As well in three five.
Five is you can do a lot ofthe work yourself on that.
I'm wanna say they're simple cars, butyou know, they're very straightforward.
There's not much to craziness to it.
So that's my take on it.
Again, if you have any questions,thoughts, correct me on anything.
You know, I'm a human, Idon't get everything right.
Shoot me an emailatWilliam@theferrarimarketplace.com.
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So anyways, onward we're gonnatalk about special variance.
And the reason I wanted to touch onthis is Ferrari just dropped the 2 9 6
Speciale, obviously how Ferrari worksin their model line up the 2, 9 6 was
supposed to be like a Dino type deal atentry level, at half a million dollars
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entry level, and you had your SF 90, thenyou got obviously into your other, you
know, your V twelves and stuff like that.
They didn't come outwith a variant in the.
Middle model, I guess you could say,as they've done in the past, you know?
So we're gonna go through thatand work our way up to the 2 9 6.
'cause I will say it's, they dida fantastic job and I wanna say I
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think the 2 9 6 is kind of flyingunder the radar regards to value
and excitement and enjoyment.
It's a great car.
It is wickedly fast.
I mean it is.
Awesome.
I got a ride in one a littlewhile back and uh, wanted to drive
it, but I wasn't gonna push it.
But hey, I got a quick ride in it.
It wasn't anything crazy,but unbelievable car.
It's great.
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It kind of got me on the bandwagonin those cars, but it wasn't
as aligned as the SF 90 is onelectric and stuff like that.
But anyways, we'll get to that.
So we are going to start.
Out in the beginning, Ferrarimaking these race car road variant
models that a person could, canget, still buy used, what have you.
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First one, it was a conversion kit.
This was for the 3 48 challenge.
Ferrari to kind of boost its image andkind of, you know, draw up more interest.
You know, they came up with theidea, let's have a one make race
series for our owners and what haveyou, and it's been very successful.
I will give you that.
And it's great racing too.
You got some guys that are pros inthere, but majority, almost 90, 95%
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of the guys running that are justamateurs that got a lot of money.
So the first variant they cameout with was a 3 48 challenge.
It was a kit that the dealerinstalled for someone that wanted to.
Put it on and go racing.
Prior, the factory did some themselvesas well, but there was just a kit
that they could buy and basicallythey didn't really do any motor
upgrades or anything like that.
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It was more along the lines ofsafety equipment, reducing weight,
stripping stuff out, giving somerace seats, everything like that,
fire extinguishers, that kinda stuff.
Front toe hook, anything like that.
So they really did not.
Do anything crazy with it.
It was more just to kind of lightenit up and tighten it up, go racing
and like you said, to could get itinstalled at their local dealership
and get it there and go racing.
So, but that was basically the first one.
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Now you do see people taking notes.
'cause that was the one thing aboutit is you could revert the car back.
To basically road legal version, butyou're not really doing all that much to
it, to really all also make this thing,hey, it's not street legal anymore.
'cause you weren't like takingthe, you know, headers off or
doing anything crazy on this car.
You got people running challengecars, driving 'em on the street.
You just slap the license plate on it.
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So, I mean, there really wasn'tmuch to that, you know, and
3, 4, 8 gets a lot of hate.
Kind of one of those odd models.
They took the uh, side strikes, youknow, kind of copying off the test.
Then Luca Dilo, however you pronouncehis last name, came on board during that.
And um, he didn't have much involvementin the 3, 4, 8, but the next one where
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he did have the 3 5 5, which is one ofmy favorite Ferraris, it's a great car.
It's just, it's small.
It's got that V eight.
You put the right headers and pipe on it.
Oh my God, this, thatthing sounds fantastic.
Kind of almost along thesame lines as a 3, 4, 8.
There's a 3 5, 5.
Challenge that was built.
Now this was built directly fromthe factory because they changed
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a lot of stuff in regards to rollcage, bucket seats, the safety
harness, fire extinguisher, enginecutoff, radio controls, a different
steering wheel, lightweight exhaust,rear wing competition, clutch.
They pulled the brakes from the F 40.
Put those brembos on there as well.
18 inch wheels and slick, solid suspensionbushings, all that kind of stuff.
Change some aesthetics.
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Perfect.
You know, black grill, that kindof stuff, and just lighten it
up and everything like that.
They only built about 108 of those.
Here's the thing, depends whenyou ask, there's probably over
300 cards that were converted.
People could buy the stuff and getit done themselves, but there were
108 that were built by the factory.
But like I said, there's probably over 300of 'em out there roaming the world that
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were just done with the conversion kit.
I have no idea.
But again, once you went thatthing, that car obviously
racetrack only, not road legal.
I'm sure there are people out therethat did what they had to do and
modified it to make it road legal.
You know, the things that are on therethough in regards to the clutch and all
that kind of stuff, but make it prettysketchy to try and drive on the street.
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'cause probably frythe clutch in a minute.
Obviously you're not gonna run slickson the street, stuff like that.
So.
It just makes for a very, very, very harshride if you didn't change a few things.
But you know, it's that cool.
Look, people all say, oh, it'sa race car for the street.
You know, everyone's always going for,so there's a lot of guys out there that,
you know, run all those items on there.
They change up the grill, thatkind of stuff to give it that look.
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Now, here's the one thing though, inEurope over here as well, I'm sorry,
you could get the ano handling package,which gave you a little bit wider.
Front track, stiffer springs, thickeranti-roll bar drilled and ventilated.
Brakes, competition, challenge,whatever source, steering, rack,
challenge grills and stuff like that.
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The Ferrari shields, you know, you gotyour carbon fiber insert, stuff like that.
So you cover seats and that's whenthat F1 transmission started coming in.
Everyone was, oh, 'causeit's the cool new thing.
So people are like, well I wanna getthat F1 flappy paddle transmission.
So sadly, out of the a hundred carsthat were delivered to the US market,
74 had that F1 paddle shift transmissionwith only 26 having a six speed manual.
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Obviously the six speed manualcars are probably about $300,000.
Now, if it's gonna have thefear auto handle, it's a
rare car, rare package on it.
I mean, it could be more, I mean,especially if you got low miles,
everything like that, and coloredcombo, the whole nine yards.
Not to say you couldn't do a, aswap on the F1 tra ones that were
done, but I mean, then you're kindof defeating the purpose because
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you have a limited edition model.
Like I said, that was a fiorano.
But now in Europe, you could getin the last year, three, five.
Five was a fiorano handlingpack that says Europe only.
So, I mean, you could import these things.
Now, obviously it didn't affect allthat many cars that were done 'cause
of last year, everything like that.
But, uh, Fiorano is the one youwant to get, but obviously, again,
you go talk about the challenge.
You know, that was the race car.
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So again, building thesefirst two was along the lines.
Okay, it's basicallymaking a really cool car.
But then they realized, hey,there's a market for a road
going race version of these cars.
People really want it.
'cause again, you know, majoritypeople get these cars, they
drive 'em on the weekends.
They're not like doing cross countryjaunts or anything like that, but
they want to have that feeling.
So they go out on a Sunday drive.
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And everything like that.
So they saw the market and they kindof started tapping into it a bit and
went from there with it on the 3 55.
Got a little more serious spot.
Now the 360, the next model was ahuge jump in regards to performance,
everything like that from the 3 55to the 360 aesthetic wise, you know,
aluminum, everything like that.
It was a big, big jump.
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Flappy paddle gearbox startedbecoming a little more prevalent
in regards to production numbers.
You wanted to get the challengestrad built by the factory going
out, but that was a road going car.
'cause this is when Ferri starteddoing the race series and these
things were race car specific.
They made them serious race cars.
It wasn't just making a couplechanges to a road going version.
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And there you go.
They were making hardcore race carsthat by now for the Ferrari race series.
But what they did withthe challenge to Dolly.
Is they tweaked, obviously,aesthetic wise, better breathing.
They increased the horsepower up to425 horsepower, dropped a weight by a
decent amount, flappy paddle gear basket.
You couldn't get a manual even though youcould order a 360 with the factory manual.
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You couldn't get the challengethrough all in a manual.
Now you could do a swap on these aswell, but the gearbox, they tweaked
it so it's faster gear changes.
That was kind of the one thing about thefirst generations of the F1, 'cause all
it was, is basically hydraulic systemattached to a standard manual training.
It, it wasn't like a dual clutch.
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So everything like that, it wasn'treally designed to do it that way.
They just modified the existingtransmission to be able to do it
where you had the flappy pallets.
But you know the system they using,they improved it that way And, and
what's interesting, I haven't heardor seen many people that have taken a
challenge and done a manual conversion.
I know they're out there.
I know people have done it.
That would be my route.
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That's what I would do.
I'd get the challenge, swap it, put in amanual transmission in it and have at it.
You know, why not?
I mean, you could even do is just buya whole transmission, pull out that
one one and just swap that one in.
That would be cool.
But.
There's only about a little over a1200 challenge modalities produced.
Rare, yes.
Rare.
No, I mean, it is, you know, that's quitea few cars, but you know, it's gaining
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popularity in regards to getting, Imean, obviously the 360 is a popular car.
It's a great, I wanna say entry level.
'cause now you got the 3, 5, 5with the manual gearbox going
through the roof, so to speak.
They're more expensive than a. 360manual is now, which is kinda odd.
You think it'd be the other way around.
But right now in the market,that's the where things are going.
But in the next couple months, thingscould completely change 'cause of
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the what's going on in the world.
And here in America, youwill just leave it as that.
I'm not gonna get political, you know?
So the 360, obviously it'sa great car to get into.
You can still work on that car yourself.
Majority of it, really not much.
You can't do yourself if you knowhow to turn a wrench and if you
can't figure somebody, look onYouTube, someone's probably done it.
You can get it figured out.
So that's what's great about thosecars that they're very, I don't
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wanna say simplistic, but you don'thave computers running everything.
You don't have like massiveamount of electronics in the car.
So you can still do these things yourself.
I mean, you can technically almost do swapyourself if you want to go into a manual.
I wouldn't recommend it.
I would spend the money, send it toa shop because you gotta get the, uh,
computer flashed, all that kinda stuffto understand that hey, now you, it's
a manual gearbox, everything like that.
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But the challenge should all, isreally kind of gaining momentum
out there in the marketplace.
People, I don't wanna say allof a sudden realizing or coming
that fact, but it's a great car.
I mean, it's a really great card.
I mean they sound beautiful.
You put, you know, pipes on that,some headers, they just scream.
It's an awesome, awesome card.
I don't wanna say inexpensive torun, but you know, you still have
the scenario where you got the belts.
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You gotta pull the motor.
Now if you know what you're doing,you really don't have to pull the
whole motor out to do your belts.
But you know, it makes it easier 'cause.
Normally when you do the belts, you'regonna be a lot of other things that
you're gonna wanna change anyways 'causejust 'cause of wear and tear on the car.
So it's kind of just, you know,preventative maintenance type situation.
So that's what I recommend.
Next step up, we're gonna go intoprobably one of my, again, more
favorite models is a four 30 scud.
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We're taking, you know,the race car variance.
Out of this equation.
'cause we're talking about the road goingcars, but you know, obviously they had
the four 30 race cars challenged GT three,GT, you know C, all that kind of stuff.
Those were built specific race cars only.
You were not gonna changethose into street cars.
I mean, push comes to shove.
I'm sure you could, but it just, it wouldbe not fun to drive it on the street.
So we are talking about theroad going special versions.
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The ones that you run to kinda hunt downfour 30 F1 tranny cars were more prevalent
in production than the six speed manuals.
You know, out in the marketplace,a four 30 factory manual car.
You know, it's kinda hard to save valuewise 'cause people are asking stupid
numbers but they're not getting 'em.
I've seen several cars that have beensitting for months, months at a dealership
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'cause they're just asking stupid money.
And they're slowly coming down.
There's one sitting outthere that's yellow block.
It's got high, higher miles.
It's almost 50,000 miles onthe car, and I think they've
had this car for over a year.
Now they're down at like two 30, Ithink now 230,000, something like
that, which isn't too bad, but I mean,I think that's maybe 175,000 car with
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that mileage, everything like that.
It is a factor, male.
It is a. Factory, yellow car.
Some of these dealers, there's anotherone up there in Northeast that, you
know, he gets his hands on quite afew, but he was asking half a mill for
some of these and he's had 'em forever.
So, factory manual cars arestupidly expensive, or I should say
stupidly priced out in the market.
Now, not to say that'swhat they're going for.
Again, market adjustments.
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But the problem is you got adealer, he's got X dollars into it.
He's not gonna take a loss,so he'll just sit on the car.
'cause at some point in timeit'll come back to them.
Dollar wise, in regards tovalue, you know what you can
sell it for, but you never know.
So, but anyways, we aretalking about a four 30 scud.
This car is probably.
Next to the one we're gonna talkabout next in the 4, 5, 8 speciality.
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The four 30 scud is afabulous, fabulous car.
Again, it is.
Got the flat paddle transmission on it,but they've got this thing dialed in.
It's kind of that point.
It's like, yeah, I know peoplehave swapped in a six speed manual
into a scud, and it's been awesome.
It's probably what I would do be I'd buya higher mileage, one swap in the manual.
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Have some fun.
Everything about the car's tightened up.
They've done some fantasticthings with just everything.
Increase the horsepower or do some weight.
It's just a fabulous, fabulous carif you ever get the opportunity to
drive on, I highly recommended it.
It's fantastic.
Can't talk much about it now,and here's what we get into now.
All of a sudden, they also do you have thethe 16 m. That the four 30 could get in.
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And that was basically just theconvertible version of the scud.
So that was kind of a new variant inregards to coming out with these road
going race car variants of the car.
So now all of a sudden you could geta convertible because there's demand.
There was the demand for it.
So they got 'em out thereand they built a few of 'em.
Those things are crazy moneyout in the market 'cause they
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are just a very, very rare car.
They only did about 500 of 'em were built.
Getting your hands on one,you're probably in the.
Oh, God, I don't know.
I, I hate to put a number on it.
Three quarter of a mill, easily, 500 tothree quarter of a million, depending on
options, colors, everything like that.
I mean, they're not cheap, but thatfour 30 scud is a, it's an awesome car.
It is an awesome car.
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My garage, I love to have, Iwould do a 3 5 5 factory manual.
I would do a four 30 factoryman within a four 30 scud.
With the manual swap, something alongthose lines or kind of vice versa.
I know, I, I don't know.
I do something along thoselines with the four 30.
I definitely have a four 30 and thestable, and then a, the next car
we're talk about a 4, 5, 8 speciale.
The, I, I think those would bethe three that pop in there.
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Well, William, I mean those are alljust, you know, eight selling the cars.
I mean, how different are,they're very, very different cars.
Totally different drivingexperiences between them.
You know, it's just a great car.
But the four 30 scud.
You could drive that car, you know, a lot.
You could almost say daily.
It pretty much you could, youknow, but it's a great, great car.
I mean, again, if you everget the opportunity to drive
one, definitely take it.
Even if you just puts it around and youcan't go more than 30 miles an hour.
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It's a great car.
I mean, it's just, it's obviously thepinnacle of the four 30 production.
Borrowing all the the 16 M as well.
But I mean it's just, it's a great car.
If you had really deep pockets, youget two scuds, one you keep with the
flappy paddle and another one you doa manual swap on it and have some fun.
Now I know old Freddy VARs down there, hetook the reco and had it with the scud.
He put that six speed man,and he absolutely loves it.
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He did a knockout job with that.
That's fantastic.
I wanna give a shout outif you are looking to get
that done for a manual swap.
I know everyone says E-A-G-A-G, you know?
Yeah.
They make the opponents, but there'sa couple other entities out there
that also make the kit and talk tothe guys at Ray Hall Performance.
They're getting into that.
I know when, uh, I visitedthem last year and did a tour.
Everything like that, theyare getting into doing that.
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I would highly recommend, especiallyif we're in this area, you know, EA G's
backed up, but hey, I mean, like I said,there's other places you can do it, but.
I would definitely give the guys atRay Hall Performance a shout out.
If you're looking at wanting a manualswap done on any of your Ferraris,
they would be a great shop to go.
Now, the next one that everyone istalking about that is just going for crazy
dollars and everyone's opinion is thelast great mid engine Ferrari, naturally
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aspirated Ferrari into 4, 5, 8 Speciale.
The apparent version of it as well.
Normal aspirated V eight screamed,and this thing sounds so good.
You put the right, especiallyheaders and pipes on this thing.
Oh my God.
And they're just going up in value,you know, they're just fantastic cars.
Again, this is, if you ever have theopportunity to drive a 4, 5, 8 especially,
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I'll definitely do it because you'relike, oh my God, this car's spectacular.
It is basically the four 30, obviouslynew body that, but it's just so refined.
It's, I mean, they justnailed it with that car.
Absolutely spectacular.
If you only get one.
I would recommend, depending on yourbank account, I'm a manual guy, so it's
like, you know that 4, 5, 8 Specialeis just a very, very special car.
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Yeah.
So again, they tighten everything up, morehorsepower, a little more torque, flappy
pallet transmission, just unbelievable.
Zero to 60 and under three seconds.
It's just got everything.
And again, it's a comfort of car that youcould drive that thing across country.
You know, you could dailythat car, do everything that,
I mean, it's just awesome.
Awesome car they.
Really got everything put together.
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You know, before they had to switchover to what we're talking about next.
You know, going into the turbosand stuff like that, 'cause of
emissions and everything like that.
It was just something that they had to do.
Hands were tied in regardsto, you know, environmental
regulations and stuff like that.
So it sucks, but it is what it is.
So, 'cause we go into thenext model, the 4 88 p stop.
This is actually starting to gainin the marketplace in regards to
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value, obviously go turbocharge.
The cars are gorgeous looking,there's no doubt about that.
Got that scoop in the front,gorgeous, gorgeous car.
They also made a convertibleversion of the 4 8 8 P stuff.
They borrowed a lot ofstuff from the challenge.
Increased the horsepower to 720horsepower, seven 10, depending
on how you look at the numbers.
But anyways, this was definitely heavy,heavy influence from the challenge
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race car versions of this car.
That's where the one, thescoop in the front comes on.
I driven four eight, butI've never driven a pizza.
Great car.
I mean, it's gorgeous looking.
And again, these are starting togain value in the marketplace.
It's still a good value right nowbecause it's kind of overlooked.
'cause everyone's going after the 4,5, 8, especially out, you know, this
is one, if you're looking to havea car, you wanna keep it long term.
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Obviously you can jump into 4,5, 8, especially out, that's,
that'd be a great buy for it.
'cause that's just gonnagain a value no matter what.
And I think it'll gainfaster than the four eight.
Well.
You got good solid money on a 4 8 8 pizza.
I think it's one of those ones.
Obviously you're gonna have your yearlymaintenance costs, but I think it's
one where if you bought it now and infive years you sold it from what you
paid for it, minus obviously you haveyour maintenance costs and running
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costs throughout those five years.
So, I mean that's money.
Just, hey, that's gone because hey,it is price of admission, so to speak.
I think you will get it back, whichpaid for it, if not even making
some money and on where things go.
So beautiful, beautiful car, youknow, really leaning heavily on the
race cars, pulling stuff from that.
And then, you know, we get into thenext model, which is the F eight tribu.
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It has the same engineon the four 80 p stuff.
Bodies tweaked, obviously tickledwith the flappy paddle gearbox.
It's got a lot more hor, you know,not a lot more, but you know,
it is got a bit more horsepower.
It got the latest side slip, angle controlstuff, you know, all the electronic
nanny aids and all this kind of stuff.
You know, it's, it is a great looking car.
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F eights are kind offlying under the radar too.
I think it's a great car.
Especially, you know, they came outwith the SF 90, I think the SF 90.
Really people are losingtheir ass on that car.
Hundreds of thousands ofdollars spending all this money.
'cause they had to, you know, buythat to and other things to be able to
get in line to buy something special.
So I think these earlier cars arereally gaining more value in people
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wanting to get their hands on them.
The F eight tribu again, I thinkyou'd have to go out and look at the
numbers, but you know, obviously Ithink you're gonna get a 4 8, 8 piece
there before you get an F eight maybe.
You know, looking at the caritself, I think the 4 8 8 piece has
got a more aggressive look to it.
I think it looks better now.
We are gonna go into what.
Ferrari just came out with,and that is a 2 9 6 Speciale.
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I wanna say they did ahell of a job with this.
Here's the one thing on these cars,obviously, you know, they have
race car for the race series andfor the endurance race and stuff
like that, they went down to 2 9 6.
So that's a car that's race.
So it makes sense is what you want.
But again.
It's supposed to be the entry level,but you know, you get in the specialty
and be, you know, and especially when wetack on everything, the whole nine yards.
It, it, it's a great looking car.
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People have been drivingsince, it's unbelievable.
It's got over 800 horsepower from thatV six rear wheel drive, so, you know,
not four wheel drive, so you don't haveall this added weight in the front.
And the settle fi Ronald package,which I'm sure everybody will tick off
on the order box, is over 40 grand.
You know, you wanna carbonfront wheels another 34 grand.
I mean, these things are not cheap.
What you are getting out of thisin regards to a V six A horsepower,
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everything like that, it's unbelievable.
You know, shaving some weightand obviously it's sold out.
That's no brainer there.
They did a really, really good job.
But again, you know, what they starteddoing more along the lines is, you
know, they made it more obviously.
A road variant as compared to, youknow, how they did it in the past,
you know, like they deal with theSF 90 xx, you know, all the XX
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cars prior were just track only.
Now they made that, you know, you candrive down the road, but you know,
these cars are getting priced justobscenely, but they're sell out.
People are buying them.
I like that.
It, this is a great car is, likeI said, you're not really dealing
with a lot of the stumped SF 90 has.
It's not bloated.
I would love to be able to get myhands on one of these and drive
it just to feel what it's like.
It's getting very good accolades.
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It's like this is what theSF 90 should have been.
So it'd be interesting to see, 'causeobviously the SF ninety's not being,
they're not producing anymore, right?
I dunno.
I've heard different things.
They are, they're not, whatever.
I don't know.
It's just, I'm not a fan at all of theSF 90, so I really don't follow it.
Not my, my niche.
But anyways, like I said,this 2 9 6 is gorgeous.
I can't wait to see one.
He is in person.
It's an absolute beautiful car.
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That's your little walk down historythere with the uh, V eight mid-engine
special version cars that Ferrari'sput out throughout the years.
Some really, really specialcars they've created.
Like I said, in my mind, the 4, 5 8Speciale would be at the top of the list.
Then you're gonna go to the four30 scud and then after that, well,
I'm a fan of the 3 5 5, so I wouldgo after 3 5, 5 somehow some way
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obviously, because that's manual.
Straight out.
The 360 child.
He is supposed to be great, but.
If I'm gonna have get a four30 scud, why would I do that?
You know, the only thing I'd havefor is to swap in a manual into it.
So it was like if I was able to get thoseother, I'd buy the 360 channel, try and
swap, put the manual on it, and keepthe floppy paddle gearbox in the scud,
maybe, I don't know, wish, wish, wish,right, but then going down to there,
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it's kind of a mixed bag in regards tothe 3, 4, 8 would definitely be last.
You know, I'm not a hater onthat car, but you know, there's
a lot of things wrong with it.
It's a very finicky car.
It can get very expensive to keep going.
You know that 4 8, 8 pizza, that's astunning car that's up there as well.
But as you get into those cars, youknow, I don't know how so much on
the 4, 5, 8, how much that couldreally work on yourself, but I
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think to a little bit of an extent.
But once you start getting past that withthe, so you're getting to a realm where.
The only way you're going to get serviceon it is take it to a dealer or someone,
a mechanic that knows what they're doing,paying through the nose or hourly rate,
but you know, it's price of admission.
So you gotta take what you can get.
But that's, that's, I like aboutthe four 30 especially as well as,
you know, that four 30 and 360.
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As well in three five.
Five is you can do a lot ofthe work yourself on that.
I'm wanna say they're simple cars, butyou know, they're very straightforward.
There's not much to craziness to it.
So that's my take on it.
Again, if you have any questions,thoughts, correct me on anything.
You know, I'm a human, Idon't get everything right.
Shoot me an emailatWilliam@theferrarimarketplace.com.
Love to hear from everybody.
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We have Mr. Luigi Connet Jr. AndBill Warner on an episode coming up.
Not sure when we gotta get itarranged, because that's gonna
be a really, really cool episode.
So keep checking or however, get dingedwhatever it is, you know, to get notified
of new episodes that get dropped.
'cause that one's gonna be a good one.
And appreciate you guys listening.
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