From Space to Speed - Max Kaiserman & Luna Replicas - BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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Break Fix podcast is all about capturingthe living history of people from all
over the autos sphere, from wrench,turners, and racers to artists, authors,
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Welcome back to another episode ofBreak Fix Podcast, where we connect
the past, present, and future ofautomotive and Motorsport culture.
In this episode, we'rereaching for the stars.
Literally as we sit down with theowner and director of operations at
Luna Replicas, a brand that blendsthe spirit of adventure with the
precision of history known for theirmeticulously recreated NASA era, flight

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jackets, watches, and accessories.
Luna Replicas celebrates the heroes of thespace age through authentic wearable art.
But this isn't just about fashion.
It's about legacy.
We're joined by Max Kaiserman to explorehow his team channels their passion
for aerospace and motorsports intoevery stitch, and how the automotive
communities have embraced these designsfor their shared love of engineering

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excellence and bold storytelling.
So buckle up for a conversationthat's going to be.
Proud of this world and joining ustonight is returning co-host Don
Webert from Garage Style Magazine,one of the many personalities
on the Motoring Podcast Network.
So welcome back, Don.
Hola.
Thank you for having me again, Eric.
And with that, let'swelcome Maxed Break Fix Max.
Good to meet you gentlemen,Don, Eric, it's so nice.

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To be aboard your spaceship here today.
It's a pleasure to talk to you abouthow space history and sort of the golden
era, the 1960s and seventies of Mercury,Gemini and Apollo, as well as Ford,
Shelby, and several of the other teams.
You know, there, there's a huge Venndiagram where they intersect, uh, and

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that's where lunar replicas comes in.
Very cool.
So were you always into space flight andtravel and astronomy, things like that?
Did that fuel you as a kid orwere you more into motorsport
or was it about equal?
It's about equal.
You know, I grew up with Apollo 13 fromthe earth to the moon, and equally movies
like Lamont and I, I was actually, I was abig fan of military vehicles, so my grand.

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Father was a tanker in World War ii.
He was in the seven 41st Tank Battalion,which is one of the units that
actually drove tanks onto Omaha Beach.
He was a D-Day veteran.
I never got to meet him and he didn'ttalk about it much with his daughters
who were my mother and my aunt.
So in searching his history, Ilearned a lot about these special
duplex drive tanks, and I said,wow, this is really interesting.

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And the vehicles and the equipmentthat was required to maintain, uh, an
armored company, Jeeps, all the way upto, you know, 10 ton wreckers and stuff.
I got really interested in that andI actually, when I was 16, I went
out and bought a World War II Jeep.
It was my first car, it was WorldWar II Jeep, and I threw a manual
and through military veteransI learned how to work on it.
And I also, I went to a dorkyscience camp as a kid, so I, I

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got way involved in engineeringand astronomy and even ham radio.
I had a ham radio license when I was.
10 years old, but we also had aminibike shop where, you know,
we would take apart the minibikesand fix them and stuff like that.
So I rode a motorcycle.
As a kid, I was always doingsomething hands-on, and that
very quickly led to automobiles.
My first car was the Jeep.
My second car was a 1955 ChevyBel Air, which I still have.

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I have, I have both of them.
And now several more and possiblyanother in a few weeks, but my wife
will kill me if she hears that.
Well, we'll talk about one of the othervehicles in your collection here in a
little bit, but let's talk about theorigin story behind Luna Replicas.
So let's talk about the who,what, when, and where of the
company and how you got involved.
I was involved since the beginning, buta friend of mine, Jonathan Mayer, who is

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actually current Canadian military policeofficer actually, so shout out to Jonathan
and the, uh, our friends up north there.
I say that I get free pancakes and syrup.
Actually, that's the plug.
No.
So he was interested and wewere both interested at the same
time of recreating the look.
Of the iconic flight jackets and lookof those astronauts from the sixties.

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Where I came in was, uh, you know,I had done World War II reenacting.
I had worked with museums before as aninterpreter and knew that, you know,
you can get an A two flight jacket,you can get a tanker jacket, you can,
you know, bomber jackets and stuff foravailable, and that it's this iconic
design that has never stopped being made.
Some of the same companies are even stillmaking those jackets, you know, alpha
Industries or Eastman leather or whatever.

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They've been around forever.
And uh, we both said, how come wecan't do that with Apollo stuff?
How cool would that be if I could havethat NASA blue flight jacket or the
gold flight jacket, which is later?
I reached out to collectors thatowned them and I found out very
quickly that getting an originalone is tens of thousands of dollars.
And then I reached out to someof these companies that were
making reproduction World War IIuniforms, and they were doing it.

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You know, stitch Perfect, like museumquality, world War II uniforms that
had to be these reenactors and museumsand movies and things that were
using them and needed to be perfect.
They said, why don't we do the sameFidelity with the Apollo program
with Mercury and Gemini over thecourse of about a year and a half?
And for one reason or another,Jonathan had to bow out.
You know, he had some military serviceand stuff he had to do, and I took over

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the whole company through the generousdonation of, you know, lending from these
collectors of original pieces and stuff.
We picked up at auction over aboutthat year or two, and my manufacturing
partner in California who does WorldWar II stuff, we recreated this brand.
And it's been incredibly rewarding.
It's one of the most amazingthings I've been involved with.
And through that, we were involvedwith original Apollo astronauts.

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One of them was a partner in thecompany for a little bit until
fortunately, he passed awayduring COVID that was Al Warden.
Through him and his family,his grandson and I basically
inherited his Corvette that he wasgiven during the Apollo program.
One, one of only three originalcustom Corvettes that are
left from the Apollo program.
Those are the Astro Vets, right?
Yeah, the Astro Vet. Yeah.
We are calling it Astro Vet Endeavor,which was AL'S command module.

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He was the command module pilot on Apollo15, one of 24 guys to go to the moon.
His other car was the Corvette,so that's a main project.
And then through just that same timeperiod in high fidelity costumes and
uniforms and stuff, we got involvedin the movie Ford versus Ferrari.
Monty Ham was a huge part of that.
He had done the uniforms for.
Tony Branda a number of years agoand then had original pieces, and so

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there is this pedigree and line ofconnection between World War II and
aviation history through NASA andthe Blue Angels and stuff like that.
And then to.
Bowler shirt and uniform, which wasthe original manufacturer of uniforms
for Shelby, who actually then becamethe uniform supplier to NASA after
the previous company ducked out.

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I mean, like I said, this Venndiagram has a massive overlap and
coincidentally, so do my interestsand so do a lot of interests of
motorsports and NASA enthusiast it.
It really is In the same vein.
Let's talk a little bit more aboutcrossing the threshold from space.
Into Motorsport, especially gettingthe call from Shelby American.
What was that like?
The call came from Fox at thetime, it was Lamont 66 was the,

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was the film 20th Century Fox.
That project had been in productionhell for like 10 or 20 years.
Originally, I think Tom Cruisewas attached to it, like it went
through a bunch of iterations whenthen it finally landed where it.
Did.
Which by the way, I think it'sa phenomenal movie if you're
not a motor sports fan or ifyou are, it's still exciting.
The only people that don't likethat movie are the ones that know

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the history, like inside and out.
'cause you're, oh, well theydidn't show 65 Lamont properly.
There's some historical inaccuracies.
But what they do get right.
Is the excitement and thecan-do attitude of that team.
You know, Shelby was anold school, hot Rodder.
Phil Remington was anold school, hot Rodder.
I mean, these guys were makingengines out of, you know, thirties
old mobiles and stuff really sing.

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And that's what they did with the Cobra.
I mean, they took a 1950s British carwith, as Shelby says, with buggy springs.
And they made that start winning the,the Daytona coop started winning FIA
and SCCA races like across the board andit was just body and engine mods with
the 2 89 Ford Engine independent rear.
And that like can-do attitude.

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Was something that is exactly the samein the aviation field, early aviation and
Apollo, and you know, mercury, Gemini.
Have you ever see a mercuryspacecraft up close?
Friendship seven, freedom seven,any of them, it's like thrown
together with bailing wire andnetwork cables and stuff like that.
Like they're really handbuilt.
It's such the same like STEMscience, technology, engineering,

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and math can do attitude.
And I really was attracted to that.
And I find that talking with people aboutit and connecting the two, there's a
really interesting person that gets intoit, and that is the Hot Rodder, that's the
science teacher, the whatever, the weekendwarriors, which a lot of these guys were.
Were you already making the Shelbyapparel and reproductions before?

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For the movie or as a result ofbeing involved with the movie?
No, it was as a result ofbeing involved in the movie.
I mean, it came from the movieMonty handled most of it.
It was really about, Monty had made themfor like a club or something a few years
before, maybe 10 years before, and hehad had original pieces from bowlers.
And bowlers is a neat story too.
The guy was literally a professionalbowler and designed a shirt, which

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we're wearing right now, whichyou can't see on the podcast.
They can see it on Patreon though.
Yeah, they designed a shirtwith these gussets so that
the arms could move freely.
And this is in the fifties, you know,so athletic wear didn't really exist
other than a little bit lighter collaredshirt and a bow tie or something.
So the, uh, the shirt design cameout of sports and then his son, Rick

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von Henkel, met with the Shelbysand said, you know, this would
be really neat for your pit crew.
So how we got to it wasthe film reached out.
Because Monty had done it beforewe spooled up, did it for the film.
The film was so good, and I gotreally into it and said, you know,
why don't we do this for the public?
For the same reasons that the NASAstuff, you know, why doesn't anybody,

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why is this not available in agift shop at a museum or something?
I would love to wear this.
Plus if you own a 66 Mustang or a CobraReplica or a GT 40 or something like
that, I mean, this is the ubiquitous look.
That jacket or the team shirtof that entire time period.
So about two years after the film,the film came out in 2019, COVID hit.

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We were looking for stuff to do duringand after COVID and 20th Century
Fox had been purchased by Disney.
They basically said, you know, ifyou wanna make Ford versus Ferrari
merchandise, you're on your own.
Like, we're not endorsing that.
So since everything that we were doingwas originally licensed by Shelby and Ford
reached out directly to Shelby and Ford.
And over the course of aboutnine months, we convinced them

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to give us a license directly.
We lobbied and then had severalconversations and proposals.
We reached out to the Von Henkelfamily, actually the original
family, and got a, a letter fromthem that said, you can inherit.
Our entire history.
So the name and history we're allowed tosay we are the original uniform supplier.
They handed over some notes andpatterns and things like that, so

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it really is, it's a continuation,just like a continuation cobra.
This is a continuation of the originalcompany that made Shelby gear, just like
we're continuation of the flight wearcompany that made NASA gear in the 1960s.
Not only is it a continuation as youdescribed, but you're also reproducing
these uniforms on all the other apparel,on the original machinery as well, which

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makes it super unique to anybody elsethat's out there, just like vintage cars,
vintage sewing machines and embroiderymachines and stuff actually work.
A lot better and are maintainablethan some modern, you know, machines.
So what we have done is there'scertain processes in these shirts and
jackets that are not done anymore.
They're too labor intensive, sowe have restored original machines

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to bring back the original lookas well as the original process.
On the backs of our teamshirts, for instance, it says
Cobra, and it's in change.
Stitch embroidery like thatis not done by a computer.
That's done by an operator,basically by hand.
They're moving the deck of theembroidery machine by hand and four
or five times around for each letter,and it's done pretty manually.

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You're manually moving this thing.
Each shirt takes about 45 minutesto embroider, whereas a computer
controlled one would do it a lot faster.
So to keep that feeling real, we haverestored the original machines to do it.
Don's been awful quiet.
'cause I think he's chopping atthe bit to hear about one of the
cars in your collection, which justhappens to be the Cobra van that is
in the Ford versus Ferrari movie.

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So you wanna talk about that a little bit?
Yes.
The car collection that went into Fordversus Ferrari was absolutely incredible.
Just stepping back, the stable of carsthat they got for that movie, I think
they had something like 200 cars.
I think his name's BillyStabile or Stabile.
It's like a longstanding family.
That did movie cars for the film and theyhad, you know, the GT forties and the

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Ferrari's and stuff that went around thetrack, but they also had all the cars
that were at the Venice, California,you know, the Shelby shop in Venice.
And then also, you know, if theypass by a parking lot in Dearborn,
Michigan at the Ford plant orwhatever, they had all those cars too.
Or all the cars in the parkinglot at Willow Springs or
whatever, like, you know.
All of those were part of themovie car production of that.

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Anyway, the Cobra van for Ford versusFerrari, the shop in Venice, you
know, which is actually still there.
The building is still there.
It was really cool to try and recreate,you know that whole look driving
up in a country, squire whatever,and parked right there was the shop
van Shelby had a several originalvans, 1966 E one 60 Econoline van.

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It's actually the supervan was the one six.
The, so Shelby had a, a racing school.
Peter Brock was the headof the racing school.
I think it was actually oneof the first Shelby employees
was Shelby American employees.
And there's a great video that you canfind on YouTube of them teaching racing.
And one of those vans is in the video.
They would hang a chalkboard onthe side of the, it's like a drip
rail on top, and they would gothrough every turn, you know.

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After the production was over, the vanthat was restored for the film went to
auction and I bid on it and lost It.
Went to Chicago or something?
It was, it wound up in Chicago and afew years later, after we had started
doing bowlers and doing the gear andstuff like that, one of the main goals
was to get out and do more historicalstuff and be at more events and things.

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Locally, I'm, I'm outside of Philadelphia,so we've got Carlisle's an hour
away or an hour and a half away.
You've got New Jersey Motor SportsPark at Millville is nearby.
There's Dover.
You know, like we're in the centerof car culture on the East Coast.
Well, wouldn't it be cool if you couldget your uniform from the 65 Shelby team
issued from the 65 Shelby Cobra van, justlike it would've been in the sixties.

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And weird enough it, it's likeone of these weird coincidences
that just, I thought that thought.
And, uh, the van came back upfor sale on Facebook Marketplace.
The guy that had bought it, I guess hehad some financial trouble or something,
medical bill came up or something.
It wound up on this like weird vehicle.
Literally, it was like a weirdvehicle Facebook group, and a
buddy of mine sent it to me.
He is like, dude, you haveto pull the trigger on this.

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This is ridiculous.
I called him and long story short,a week later the van showed up and
we, we had a truck to my house.
It's an original condition.
Actually.
It only has 6,000 miles on it.
It's a real unrestored 66 econline that was barely used,
delivered to California originally.
No rust.
It was repainted for the movieand then lettered for the film.
In fact, there's a typo on it.

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The shop is on PrincetonDrive, but it says Priceton.
And the guy that did thelettering on the movie, he's
like, oh, I can redo that for you.
He is like, no, no, no, no.
It's screen use.
I can't change it now.
You know?
Oh, so it says price than drive on it.
And Yeah, I'm, I've beengetting it back on the road.
I've driven it up to Carlisle before It'shaving some issues that e Conno lines
have of, especially with the big engine,they, it's having some heating issues, but

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it should be back on the road very soon.
And the goal is to be issued yourShelby uniform outside of the Cobra van.
That is awesome.
I love that.
It's fun to drive too.
It's like driving a bus.
It's a cab over.
It's a cab over van.
Oh yeah.
The engines between the front seats.
It's in a doghousebetween the front seats.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like a Dodge, A 100 andall those types like that.

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Yeah, exactly.
We had a collection years agothat we photographed up in
Carmel, Monterey, California.
Weirdest experience.
The guy was a diehard hot rodder.
He was in his eighties running businesses.
He was Mr. Go-getter.
He, I loved him.
He was fantastic.
He passed away.
A couple of years ago, unfortunately,I really, really like that man.
His name was Donna Rosco,so I'm photographing.
He has garage attached to garage, attachedto garage, and every garage is just

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back filled with hot rod memorabilia.
Cobra memorabilia, more hot rodstyle 'cause it's diehard hot Rodder.
The last garage I walked into, I'llnever forget 'cause it had two human
doors and you open 'em and you walkin, well, you open 'em and bam, you
can't walk in because there's thiswall right in front of you and you
think, what the heck is this thing?
And I, I tried edging through.
Once I got through, I was okay.

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I realized I'm looking at thatsilvery light blue and white.
I'm like, what the hell is this?
A huge, huge truck.
It was the piggy backer, theoriginal Cobra Vehicle hauler
that hauled the GT three fifties,hauled the cobras, all this stuff.
Why it was so close to the humandoor, why it wasn't further in giving
everybody a little bit of breathing room.
The Ferrari hauler wason the other side of it.

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The dude had both of them, andthey were the original trucks.
I'm, I'm trying to photograph this thing.
How do you photograph thesetwo behemoths that are shoulder
to shoulder in this garage?
You know, I never thought I'dcall any of his garages small.
Until I saw the Cobra and the Ferraritruck, that was one of those moments where
you're literally pinching yourself becausenot only are you in the presence of one,

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but you're in the presence of the other.
And this is long before Fordversus Ferrari came out.
So the only people who really appreciatedthis were those who knew at least some
of the history between Ford and Ferrari.
Not at the racing level, but at thecorporate level where those two big
egos clashed and all hell broke loose.
So there you go.
Of course.
Well, if walls could talk, right?

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So Eric and I met at the Ion Museumoutside of Philadelphia, and boy,
you talk about if cars could talk.
Yeah.
Collection is just the who's whoand, and when's when of every.
Major race of the 20thcentury, and it's there.
I mean, the Fred Simeon collectedthis incredible pedigree of every

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single one of his pieces, and it'snot like a GT 40 or a Bugatti tank.
It is the Bugatti tank.
It is the Allen Mann GT 40, like it'severy single one is, has a story.
I wonder when those lights goout there, you know what night at
the museum looks like at the ion?
Yeah.
Dr. S what I liked about hiscollection too, for the most part.

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He didn't restore anything.
No.
It's all preserved.
Yeah, it was all preserved.
It was pretty much just as he foundit or as it came off the racetrack
or off the streets, whatever.
Really, really amazing, uh,what he had put together.
Fred unfortunately passed away afew years ago, but with Simone's
help when this opportunity cameup with Al Warden's grandson will.
To get his original Apollo 15, 1971 Corvette that they were given,

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all the astronauts were alloweda GM car a year for a dollar.
And it was all through JimRothman's dealership in Florida.
But, and most of the guys gotCorvettes and they were off the floor.
Apollo 12 decided to custom ordertheir Corvettes and they were
inseparable from their Corvettes.
They were all best of friends, and theygot these gold and black custom Corvettes,
you know, 4 27 big block Corvettes in 69.

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The backup crew for Apollo 12was the crew that became the
primary crew for Apollo 15.
So Dave Scott, Al Warden and Jim Irwindecided we're gonna get Corvettes when
our time comes and they're gonna matchtoo, but we don't like the gold and black.
We're gonna get them inred, white, and blue.
So they had red, white, andblue with red, white, and blue
stripes across the entire car.
In any case, long story short, one ofthe Apollo 12 Corvettes still exists

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and two of the Apollo 15 cars stillexist and the rest of them are gone.
So half of the three of the six arethe only ones that survived and al's
the white car of the red, white andblue Apollo 15 cars had sat out in a
junkyard for probably about 20 years.
The collector that was the Apollocollector, this guy Danny Reed,

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had feelers out all over the worldand this one came up around 2017.
He was the first owner ofthe Apollo 12 Alan Bean car.
So that which is now preservedcar and it's on the, the National
Registry of Historic Vehicles.
He got the Al Al wardencar and didn't touch.
And coincidentally enough, whenthat went to a museum as on loan,
somebody rang up the museum andsaid, Hey, I have the blue one.

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And apparently it was like 10 minutesdown the road, so Danny went out and
bought the blue one, and now he foundDave Scott's car from Apollo 15.
Fast forward a few years later,Danny's getting a little bit older.
This s needs some work and it's reallybe nice if it went back to the family.
I was very good friends withAl and his grandson, and I
got the car from Danny Reed.
Literally had hornet's nests in it.

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It had sat outside.
It had been driven, it had been modified.
The engine was original, transmission'soriginal, but things had been
moved over the years and stuff.
The Sion collection, I approachedthem about it and I'm a local and I
had done some volunteering with them.
They said, yeah, wouldn't it be coolif we didn't exhibit about this?
It's gonna be the 50thanniversary of Apollo 11.
All of this stuff is kind of, it'dbe neat to do an exhibit about

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the connection of, of Apollo andCorvette and race cars and stuff.
So it went there, unrestored, it justsat there with a display behind it,
a a projector display of some imagesand, and video footage and stuff.
And it was at the end of thosenine months there, we did a talk
on preservation versus restoration.
Which was Fred Simeon's whole thing.
He wrote a book with Miles Colliersabout preservation versus restoration.

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You know, along with Harry Hurst, who islongtime historian and was a photographer
at races since the late sixties, Harryput together this panel of me Corvette
Restoration and Preservation people.
We had this amazing talk andliterally during the talk,
put it out to the audience.
We did, you know, phone in votes andstuff, what should we do with the car?
Should it be preserved orrestored to pristine condition?

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And the overwhelmingresponse was, preserve it.
Don't touch the paint, don'ttouch the carpet, don't touch the
cigarette butts in the, in the ashashtray, 'cause that's history.
And it was, that was reallyAl's Carr, and he loved it.
Said he should never have soldit or given it back, I guess.
So that's what we did.
We preserved it.
The body came off the, theentire chassis was brought back
to original factory condition.

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I mean, really original, evenreproducing the handwriting and
inspection stamps and stuff.
This is all done at county Corvette.
In Westchester, Pennsylvania, who havebeen incredible along this process.
Do you know that they tooka lot of pictures while they
were restoring that car?
Oh, yeah.
We've photographed and videoedthe entire process, which
is also part of the mission.
It's kind of teach about this stuff,and actually you can check our YouTube

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channel, which is lunar replicas.
We also have an Instagram andFacebook and stuff like that.
We'll be posting stuff there.
It's called Project Astro Endeavor, whichis sort of the homage to Al Warden's
command module, which was Endeavor.
It's the English spelling, E-A-V-O-U-R.
It went back together a few weeks agoand we're actually going to be rolling
out some videos and where it's gonna bestored for the next year or two before

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it goes on display at a museum someplace.
That's awesome.
Al Warden was changed by going to space.
He was a test pilot,he's a military pilot.
He became a test pilot instructor.
The Air Force lent him to England fora little bit to be at a test pilot
school there 'cause he was so good.
This guy was Captain AmericaWest Point graduate as well.

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You know, going to spacefor them was another job.
It was important they learned the job,but it was just, it was another goal to
step over for these day personalitiesand, and go-getters and seeing the earth
from 250,000 miles away, everythingthat was there, every person you've
ever known, every living and dead human.
While the three humans were thatfar away, absolutely changed him.

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And from the day he landed back on Earth,which actually as of this recording we're
in the anniversary, that was Apollo 15.
They landed in August of 1971.
From that day till the day he died,his mission was to educate people and
get them into science and engineeringand preservation, and all of the things
that would make the world better.

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I think part of the goal for the caris to continue some of that legacy
and to get people interested inautomotive engineering or aerospace.
And the car is a reallygood vehicle for that.
You know, everybody's into cars,kids love cars, adults love cars.
It's exhilarating.
But when you open the hood, there'sso much engineering going on.
There's physics, there's chemicalengineering, there's even just

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in carburetors and stuff, the,the amount of engineering that
goes into this, the science.
That goes into a car is fascinating.
And I think that if we can use thatas a tool to teach and preserve
history and talk about Apollo,we've done al a a good service.
You were kind of just doing thewhole, the people and then the
science involved, the engineering.
Just wondering if wecan bring that together.

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What connections have you discovered?
Between the space exploration world andthe automotive motor sports community?
Well, Scott Carpenter owned a Cobra rightfrom Shelby, so there's, there's that.
Okay.
No, these guys actually racedon the weekends and stuff.
But as far as automotive andaviation go, I mean the airplane
and the car were developed.
Kind of at the same time, you know,the Wright brothers, well they were

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building bicycles and stuff likethat, but the horseless carriage and
the airplane were kind of, and, andalso shrinking engines and stuff down
were, were developed at the same time.
There's a ton of aerodynamicoverlap with air foils.
There were rocket sleds and with downdraftand stuff on cars, and frankly, the
precursor to nasa, which was naca,NACA, which existed in the teens, you

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know, pre-World War I. Their goal wasto develop a more streamlined and safe
air foils, which were then used oncivilian aircraft and military aircraft.
Still to this day, a lot of thoseaviation principles are part of racing.
Antilock breaks was developed, Ibelieve, for the Concord, for instance.
Uh, and if not for the Concord,then certainly for some
military aircraft somewhere.

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Goodyear tires, you know, madeall sorts of rubber tires.
Goodyear and BF Goodrich made tiresfor the space shuttle program.
An airplane is a motorvehicle until it takes off.
Right.
You know, there's a lot of similarities.
And then, you know, you have the computertechnologies for analysis and then more
for engine management and stuff like that.
Like those have translatedto aerospace as well.

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So there's a ton of overlap.
Yeah, I would imagine GPS probably foundits roots in aerospace too, wouldn't it?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, so there's also, there's aerospaceas it relates to international travel.
You, you just, the lecture Max Kaiserman's lecture tonight, the, uh, the,
uh, you know, accurate timekeeping wasdesigned for crossing the Atlantic Ocean.

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It got even better.
When we were flying seven oh sevens andseven 40 sevens across in transatlantic
flight, it was crucial to have accuratetimekeeping before there were GPS
satellites and subsequently accuratetimekeeping when you're, you know,
racing was incredibly important too.
That's why companies like.
Rolex and Omega and Seiko and stuff likethat were all very involved in race timing

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as much as they were involved in celestialnavigation and transatlantic flight.
The GPS satellite, you know,revolutionized a lot of that.
I do think there's a lot of leap.
Fogging though, if you look at thehistory of aviation and motorsport as
a whole, because if you go pre-WorldWar ii, the 1920s, there were
already land speed record attempts.

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You know, the auto bonds being createdin the thirties and Mercedes is, you
know, setting its records that therecord walk-in and things like that.
And they're designing principles.
That would come later to aviationas the jets were being created
post-World War ii, and then again,we leapfrog post-World War ii.
Then the cars start to pick up becauseeverybody coming back from the war
brought their information that theylearned from aviation with them.

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And then again, it starts toleapfrog and leapfrog and leapfrog
throughout the eighties likeyou're saying with electronics.
Yeah.
And obviously we're highlighting this.
Sixties when we're talking aboutShelby, you know, the heyday of
Lama and their winds with theGT forties and stuff like that.
But still, I think it's verymuch intertwined in the greater
story that we're telling thatwe're talking about here.
Yeah, and and also, you know, the sixtiesyou realize was, you know, the jet
set era, people had disposable income.

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More of the world was now able toafford automobiles, which had, you
know, because of technologies andadvancements in metallurgy even.
The, was it the 66 Ford Mustang was thefirst car to build a million a year.
I think it was 66 or 67or something like that.
By the way, Ford that made B20 fours during World War II
and was the first commercialairliner with the Ford Tri Motor.

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I mean they, there reallyis a huge overlap now that
air travel was affordable.
And like rental cars became a real thing.
You know, Hertz became this internationalrental car company that, you know,
more people were traveling and takingroad trips overseas or somewhere else
in the United States pulling on the GTthree 50 H that they used to have back.

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Right.
Well there's that too.
Yeah, there's Could renta racer for the weekend.
It's unfortunately though, now youknow, Hertz, they brought it back the
GTH, which is a phenomenal rental caractually, that Shelby did a great job
with Hertz on those, but they clock you.
They know if you're taking it on a track.
Yeah, I think it was something, it waslike $15 and 30 cents a mile or something.
You could rent a Shelby.
But yeah, aviation.

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There's a bunch of stuff I'm notthinking of right now, but there are
individuals that even had a foot inboth camps that were designing better
engines for both cars and aviation needs.
Well, I mean, if you think aboutit, it makes sense because here
you've got motor manufacturers, carmanufacturers, we need to build airplanes.
Why would we go anywhere else?
Those guys right over there.

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They're already building engines.
Yep.
We just have to adapt theengine to do something else.
I mean, look at BMW.
They're rooted.
It's World War I I just saw one on displayat the National Air and Space Museum.
There's a BMW engine with the same logo.
By the way, they haven'tchanged their logo in 120 years.
Yeah.
World War IBMW Engine off of, uh, Germanaircraft in World War I. I can tell you

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the Porsche engines, the Boxer engines.
Is very, very similar to a continentalengine that goes on a light Cessna.
That boxer engine design, air cooled, isexactly what's used in general aviation.
Moreover than that, if you stepback 30,000 to a hundred thousand
feet, it's the same can-do attitude.
It's the same.
We're going to miniaturize and lightenand get every ounce out of this explosion.

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Or every piece of lift or downdraftthat you can get out of this body
panel, out of this control surface.
I mean, it really is apples to apples.
Aviation and racing the essence of time.
Let's circle back.
Gonna say, you know, max, theairplane guy takes this way out.
And I'm a student pilot, by the way.
Like I, I've, I really haveencompassed this whole thing.

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I, I drive my Porsche boxer to theairfield and hop on a Cessna 1 72.
But, uh, we were curious.
If you had any stories about customerswho connected really, really deeply with
your pieces, maybe they even tied intotheir own personal history, you know,
they're linked to that logo or thattopography, any, anything like that.

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Yeah.
On a regular basis, I am blown away.
By the people I meet or work withpeople send me emails from both the
Shelby and Ford History and nasa.
Nasa.
I mean, I, on one hand I can tell youthe number of people that have gone to
the moon that are wearing our stuff.
Almost every living Apolloastronaut and some who are not

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living anymore, unfortunately, Ispoke to, and our customers are,
they get a free one by the way.
So everyone who worked on the Apolloprogram directly, some of them are
flight directors and flight controllersthat worked, you know, in Mission
control, Jerry Griffin and Gene Kranz.
I consider friends of mine whowere NASA flight directors.
As a matter of fact, throughthat connection with them,
we designed the current.

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NASA flight director uniform.
They've never had a uniform before.
They never had their own flight jacket andthey didn't wanna look like astronauts.
And about a year and a half ago, JerryGriffin introduced us to the current
chief flight director at NASA andsaid, we wanna have our own uniform.
So in the pedigree of Apollo, we designedthe current flight director uniform.
So yeah, almost all sitting on dutyflight directors at NASA are wearing

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something from lunar replicas.
That's really special to me.
Yeah.
That's incredible.
The other really amazing history thatI've gotten into are the families of
the veterans, Pete Conrad's son, Peter,the Bean family, Al Warden's family.
Obviously Allison and, andWill, uh, his grandson.
But I also had the honorof meeting Aaron Shelby.

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Aaron was such a nice guy.
It's funny people don't realizethat Carol Shelby was pretty tall.
Aaron is about as tall as I am.
I'm six foot three.
He's a big dude.
Carol Shelby was a big guytoo, which is funny 'cause Matt
Damon is not particularly tall.
So they had, they must have hadhim up on an apple box or something
to stand next to Phil Remington.
But yeah, they, uh, the Shelby family,you know, just in the few interactions

(33:06):
that I've had with Aaron and Sean A.Little bit, they're really excited
to be a part of their family historyand I'm excited to be a part of that.
Their attorney, the, uh, groupthat controls the Shelby name.
Their office has been incrediblylovely to deal with as well.
They're really excited to havesomething that comes from a real
place of history and heart and notjust a signature for a buck on eBay.

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You know, this is really ahistoric endeavor and you know,
I started this as a side project.
This is a total passionproject for me and.
I think that shows through a lot ofways is that this is not kitschy.
It's not your discount aisle,baseball caps and t-shirts.
I mean, we're really trying to rebirthsomething that has a lot of history
and everyone that I've met that'spurchased our stuff, especially

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those that have that deep connection.
Have been amazing, you know, going intoall the originality and all the original
people and this, that, and the other.
What are the challenges you've hadsourcing the original materials,
replicating the design, meeting, thehistorical and modern quality standard?
How has that been a challenge to you?
Yeah, it's a challenge every day andyou know, you have to do things in bulk.

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There's a cash flow where you couldnormally buy some fabric off of another
roll and do a short run or whatever.
I, I have to buy a thousand yardsat a time because we're making the
fabric, the general supply chainthings, but also just finding the
people that can do it at this qualitylevel and in the US is a challenge.
The sewing and garment industry in the UShas almost disappeared, so we've kept a

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few sewing shops alive because of this.
We haven't quite gotten to the pointof having our own sewing shop, but
we're a main customer of two orthree sewing shops in in Los Angeles.
Some of them are now.
Because the buildings got sold to makeapartment buildings and stuff, they've
now moved the shop into people's garages,which is interesting because flight
wear, land manufacturing, and bowlersat certain points in time in the sixties

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we're, we're doing them out of garagesand Quonset huts next to the house.
I would love to do a podcast withthe Land Family, which is the guy
that owned started Flight Wear.
The story of that guy is fascinating.
I mean, it really is this, he's just gonnabid on a military contract whether he can
do it or not, but he always delivered.
He delivered every time, you know?
He even eventually started makingmotorcycle helmets and racing helmets.

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Actually, that's the land racing helmet,was the first polycarbonate helmet, which
was then purchased by the military andused on helicopters and fighter jets.
So they supplied the Blue Angels.
Out of this guy's garagein Wichita, Kansas.
I think they were bought byBell Helmet in like 1972.
Yeah.
It's amazing how it's gonefull circle like that.
I didn't know anything about that,but you're right, so many, so many,

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so many companies, industries haveliterally been started in a garage.
Oh, absolutely.
And you wouldn't believewhat you can do in a garage.
Well, I would, you know.
Yeah.
You go to a store, you goto a Ralph Lauren or a LL
Bean or something like that.
Those guys all started intheir, in their living room.
Yeah.
Well, the Disney Corporation, I mean,people don't realize Walt Disney and

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his brother, it was in that littlegarage and, and that garage is still
in existence, believe it or not.
There's a museum in OrangeCounty, California of garages.
And that is where theDisney Garage is sitting.
Hewlett Packard started in thegarage up in Northern Company.
Microsoft.
Microsoft.
Yeah.
Google.
All of them.
Everyone.
Amazon, they were selling books inhis living room and he'd ship it at

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his local post office and, and at thesame token, you've got the Mercury
Project where they took intercontinentalballistic missiles and said, I think
we can put a guy on top of that.
And then you had guys with balls bigenough to say, Hey, you know what?
I might sit on top of that.
Let's see what happens.
What could go wrong?
The first orbital missionswere on Atlas Rockets.
John Glenn was on Atlas Rocketprior to John Glenn's launch.

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I believe the Atlasself-destruct rate was 50%.
It would blow up on the pad.
Wow.
You know, in the same token,you've got guys that are racing
engines until they explode.
Yeah.
Early NASCAR was a stock car race.
They had to take production cars andtrick 'em out within the confines
of that chassis and frame andbody and the production engines.
So you got, you know, Strokers andOverboards and stuff like that.

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Like this is hot rod, mercuryand Gemini were hot rods.
Apollo started to be really.
Purpose built, but they wererepurposing Air Force missiles
until the Saturn one and the Saturnfive were, were purpose built.
In fact, the Saturn one rocket wasjust six Mercury Redstone rockets
taped together and put a capsule ontop of nice Apollo was a hot rod.
So Max.

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Kind of switching gears here into ourlast segment, let's look to the future.
Let's look to the sky a little bit.
What kind of research and collaborationgoes into designing new products
at Luna, and are there any upcomingdesigns or collections, anything
you're particularly excited aboutthat we should be on the lookout for?
Yeah, so it's a very complicatedprocess of, oh my God, that's cool.
Let's make that I am customer number one,you know, and if I think it's cool or I

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want it for myself, you know, as you cansee, all this stuff, I'm a very eclectic.
Interest person.
I'm into cars and historic diving andstuff and there's a huge connection
between diving and space suits.
And you know, I even restoredtelephones at one point in time.
I love rotary phones 'cause it's justthe most interesting mechanical device.
So, you know, we don't just doclothing loon, replicas, we do
flashlights, we do tether hooks.

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It's basically, for meit was Apollo every day.
How can you incorporate thishistory into your everyday life?
It was tested to death to beworking on the Apollo program
as far as, uh, racing goes.
It was tested to death to withstand24 hour races or the pit crews
and gasoline and whatever.
Why not make that part of your everyday and now you have something that's
meaningful that's part of your every day?

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So we're getting into more coldweather gear, so like more jackets.
Also being issued a flightjacket is a big deal.
Same thing.
If you get the jacket, 'cause you'reon the pit crew, you're on the team.
That's a huge deal.
So, you know, it's this riteof passage in a lot of ways.
So finding more of the historicflight jackets and pit crew jackets.

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We're working on that right now.
We're working on the 1967 Laman jacket,the famous jacket, the Dan Gurney
and AJ Foyt wore at the end of the 67Lamont, where Shelby finally won, even
though they should have won in 66 2.
That's a whole separate thing.
We do some connections with the Navywith historic recovery caps and stuff.
The Navy ships that pickedup the Apollo capsules.

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At the end of the mission, we'redoing some work with the USS
Hornet, possibly with the Midwayand the Intrepid, which were kind
of involved in the same time period.
There's also the U-S-S-E-O Jimaand the Okinawa, which also
picked up Apollo 13 and Apollo 15.
Unfortunately, those ships nolonger exist, but the the Hornet,
which picked up 11 and 12, that isstill a museum in San Francisco.

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We're doing some stuff with them.
The biggest thing coming out rightnow and the single largest piece that
we're working on is finishing theAstro Vet and showing everyone the
Astro Clone because we weren't ableto fully restore the Astro Vet. And
you know, the paint is very fragile.
It's the original paint thatwill not be going outside, it

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won't be going to as many events.
We decided, and Al would've liked usto have something that people could.
Feel and touch and sit in oreven take around the block.
So we found another one.
We found a 19 71, 4 54 Corvetteand restored it to what the Astro
VTE would've looked like and drivenlike the day it rolled off the line.
Is it gonna be the red one sincethat's the one that's missing?

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Yeah, we're doing, it's a white oneand it's actually, we found a car.
This is crazy.
This is, again, one of those, like I'mthe luckiest person in the world and
it's the gift that keeps on giving.
I found.
Locally, the exact same configured carbuilt two weeks before the Astro bet was.
It is four digits off the VIN numberof Al's car, and literally it's

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exactly the same configuration.
All we did was restore it and paintthe stripes on it, and it's done.
So that's gonna be rolled out and thatwill hopefully be at events and people can
sit in it and feel it and be part of that.
As fans of the show know we spentsome time in Europe this summer.
We noted that there was a lot ofbuzz around Shelby, and this is
to bring the conversation back toShelby and talk about the future.

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Shelby just recently celebrated its60th anniversary established in 1962.
We're somewhere in between60 and 65 years now.
And so again, there'sall this buzz, all these.
You know, new lines of apparel.
Folks like Jean Pierre at Classic LegendMotors is coming out with a whole new line
of Shelby's stuff, which looks awesome.
We got a sneak peek.
We too got to sit down andchat with Aaron Shelby on some

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of the stuff he's working on.
And so I'm wondering what's inthe works for Luna and Shelby?
Is there more to do?
Do you have some other plans?
Are you gonna venture into some of Perel,Shelby's other projects like, you know.
Skunk Works, Viper and some ofthe other stuff that he worked on.
We're gonna do something on theChrysler, I think is what the,
uh, you know, the 1980s Shelby?
No, no, no.
My goal is to keep going with 65 66.

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67 through 69.
What we've discussed doing is more everyday apparel, watches, sunglasses, maybe
even like racing shoes and racing gloves.
Shelby himself, he was a shock tothe system of the gentleman racer.
He was just a chicken farmer that wouldthen sit there and race with, you know,
lords and ladies and stuff like that.
Like he was a really interestingcharacter, but I think he was

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also, he was a gentleman himself.
It's neat to emulate that time periodwith stuff that you can use every day.
You know, the driving gloves that have.
A mesh back so they'remore comfortable to wear.
I go to events and I wearthe big black Stetson hat.
I would love to do CarolShelby Stetson in some way.
I know other people have done it.
Stetson itself did itat one point in time.

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And then just sort of the Shelbylook of Hot Rod plus gentleman racer.
I think that'd be really neat.
And I'm not sure what that looks likejust yet, but we're getting there.
The helmet bags and like overnight stuff.
Stuff that you can stick in your, youknow, a racing trunk, was it famously?
The FIA Valise, you know, hadto fit in the Cobra Trunk.
Maybe we'll do a versionof a Shelby Valise.

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With a wrench or what, what was it?
Uh, he had a hammer and he, he poundedthe, the, you know, we'll have a,
we'll have a special, you know, breakhere for emergency or something.
There's a couple of fun thingswe're thinking about, but the
big stuff is exact reproduction.
So do you see yourself looking at someof the other teams that were, at the
same time, maybe like a Cunninghamor camaraderie, are you gonna venture

(43:15):
into other American motor sports teams?
And even more than I, I wouldlike to do stuff with Goodyear.
We've been looking attrying to reach out to them.
For licensing.
But Goodyear was a big sponsor ofShelby teams and Shelby himself
was a Goodyear distributor.
I mean, he had a Goodyear Tireshop, the Shelby Tire Shop, I think
it was in the valley someplace.
Goodyear and Dunlop, and you know,a lot of those less leston and

(43:37):
stuff, which was, you know, uniformsupplier back then out of England.
Doing stuff with those,which then opens the door.
And maybe if anyone's listening herefrom the Porsche shop, bowler shirt
and uniforms, supplied the uniformsfor the Porsche teams in 69 and 70.
And I would love to do somethingwith Porsche design, if possible.
That would be really cool.

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I have the patterns for that jacket.
Oh, there you go.
Oh, there it is.
This is a bowler's 500 jacket.
Yeah, there it is.
I know some people that wouldline up around the block.
For that.
They could always use some more suppliers.
You know, I miss thesunglasses from the eighties.
Those basically Serengeti knockoffs.
I think Serengeti might have actuallymade them with the Porsche design.
Mm-hmm.
Almost carbon look.
Those are really cool.

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But anyway, moving on.
I am a relatively recent Porsche convert.
I only drive a Porsche at home.
I mean, my daily driver, I have acayenne and a boxer, uh, s and I
may have a nine 11 in a few weeks.
Ah, that's what you didn'twanna tell your wife about,
man, the 9, 9 1, it's a great car.
It's a great daily drive it in theweather, like seriously, they're

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made to drive in the Alps, youknow, so snow, rain, everything.
They're phenomenal cars.
That's fun.
You've told us a little bit aboutyour Porsche that's peeking in
through your back door there.
What's next for Max?
We're trying to be moreinvolved with museums, trying
to do more aviation events.
I'm finishing my pilot's license.
I would like to get my racing license.

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Maybe we'll take the boxer out.
By the way, for affordable trackday cars, you cannot beat a
9 86 or 9 87 boxer or Cayman.
I mean for five to 10 grand.
You have this incredible platformthat are meant to be work.
Dawn and stuff, they're really great cars.
I have a 9 81 s, so it's a little moreexpensive than a 9 86, but just being more

(45:20):
involved and being part of the communityso that we can serve the community better.
And whether that's with historicstuff that people wanna see.
Again, you know, we learnthe best from our past.
Or if it's new stuff, you know, maybe,maybe Lunar replicas becomes a company
that is front lining new types of.
Technologies, cooling shirts thathelp modern race car drivers.

(45:42):
Using some of the, the NASA technologiesactually and bringing them back to
racing or even just, you know, hobbyracing, SCCA and stuff like that
where you can have a cooling garmentor you know, a material science.
That that works a little bit better.
Uh, flame, you know, retardants andstuff like that would be, you know, maybe
something we look into in the future.
I don't know what thelegalities of that stuff is.

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You know, I'm just spit balling andif nothing else, I'll, I'll show
you one thing we're working on now.
This is an original crewbumper sticker from Apollo 15.
You would get these if you werea team member of Apollo 15.
This let you on the NASA facility.
What's really neat about this is, youknow, they use the wheels from the rover.
Apollo 15 was the first missionto go to the moon with a rover.

(46:24):
And over the next five yearswe are going back to the moon.
The Artemis program isgoing back to the moon.
Next year they'll be launching, they'lldo a crude, Artemis two is going
to go around the moon and not land.
And then Artemis three is gonna land andwe might see another rover on the moon.
There will be a new car.
A new rover on the moon and that'lljust be really neat to see that

(46:44):
within my lifetime, you know, ourlifetimes, another car on the moon.
Well, max, we've reached that part of theepisode where I like to invite our guests
to share any shout outs, promotions,thank yous, or anything else you'd like
to mention that we haven't covered this.
Far, I've got a mountain ofstuff we could talk about.
We're all the same geek.
You know, I think it's, uh,that's what makes it amazing.
You go to these events and youtalk to people forever, and you

(47:05):
meet some really neat people.
One of the partners ofLuna Replicas say, partner.
It's like we're the same geek.
You know, there's a couple of otherlittle companies around that do.
Same fidelity reproductions ofsomething and one of the guys
that does the same fidelity, not alittle company, but global effects.
So Chris Gilman, a global effect.
They've made everyspacesuit for every movie.

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They even made real spacesuitsfor a little while from like, you
know, the eighties through today.
Chris has become a really good friend.
Uh, he specializes in machining.
Exact reproduction fittings andthings like that for spacesuits.
And then the whole space suit, likehe'll make it for literally every,
if you've ever seen a movie that hasa spacesuit in it, whether science
fiction or real, it went throughglobal effects 90% of the time.

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He grew up on SCCA tracks.
His parents either owned a track orthey, they were very heavily involved.
He grew up with Carol Shelbycoming over for dinner.
Wow.
Same thing his father did, you know,machining, they had a machine shop
and they were making racing parts.
And then his mom ran the front ofhouse for these racetracks to the
point where he even told me at onepoint that his mother invented the

(48:10):
paper wrist bracelet for track days.
Oh wow.
He's an Abarth guy though,so I'm, I, I joke with him.
I've got a boxer and he's got somethingtiny and he's bigger than me and I don't
know how he fits in that damn thing.
And then he invented, have youever seen the uh, the Darwin fish.
That's on the back of people's cars stuff.
Yeah.
He invented the Darwin Fish, youknow, back in like 91 or something.

(48:30):
They were working on a movie and hesaid he had been drawing them on this,
uh, film set as a joke and someonesaid, man, you should really make that.
So he is one of theinventors of the Darwin Fish.
Very cool.
The artist that you hadout at Simone doing that
pointillism, Samantha Zimmerman.
Yeah, I, I talked with her for an hour.
I mean, that was absolutely incredible,the people we meet doing this stuff.
So, another thing that I'mreally proud of is Cool Cars for

(48:52):
Kids, which is a nonprofit with.
The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.
We do a fundraiser every year forkids with rare genetic disorders.
Um, we connect into the automotiveworld with these doctors that
are doing breakthrough stuff thatabsolutely makes a difference, and
it's stuff that you've never heard of.
It's really one of one cases.
But in the several years it's beenaround, we've raised money to help have

(49:15):
comfortable places for families to go.
Some research and you know, attractingdoctors and biologists and stuff like
that to come and research these geneticdifferences that some kids are born with.
So.
Cool Cars for Kids.
The next fundraiser should be nextyear, and it should be really neat.
It's a, we actually, theConcourse to Elegance.
The Philadelphia Concourse isthe fundraiser for, you know, so

(49:37):
does a real concourse that is afundraiser for cool cars for kids.
So my me, my message to everybodyis check out luna replicas.com
bowler shirt and uniform.
Uh, we're actually doing some stuffwith World War II now with the aviation
crowd in World War II with watchesand sunglasses and some other, you
know, leather jackets and stuff.
Really the goal is for you to put ourstuff on and then have your own adventure.

(49:59):
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This is a goal for anybody listening.
Anybody out there.
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Learn from history andthen do it yourself.
Make it better.
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of aerospace and Motorsport history.
And with that, max, I can't thankyou enough for coming on Break Fix
and sharing your story with us.
You said during the episode thatthis started as a passion project and
it's obviously become more than that.
It's a true passion and it showswhen you talk about lunar replicas
and you talk about everything you'reworking on, we appreciate everything
you're doing for both communities, theworld of aviation and of motorsports,

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and we really can't wait to seewhat you guys come up with next.
So thank you so much.
It's been such a pleasureto meet you guys.
Eric and Don, thanks for coming aboard.
Thanks for having me aboard.
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