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I'm your host, William Ross.
I got my diet Mountain Dew as always,and we're ready to do some chit chatting.
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Or I guess they say I'm justready to do some talking here
and we are going to talk about.
Something that I actually, I guessyou could say it's been brought up
Intox before, but the big Hubble Balooin the Ferrari world is the little
nugget that Louis Hamilton droppedabout a week and a half ago, whatever.
I was gonna try and do this sooner,but I kind of wanted to wait to
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see what else got dug up on it.
There's been a few other things,so it's been interesting.
But anyways, Louis Hamilton droppeda little tidbit information.
It kind of reflected on his photo shoot.
He did when he was finallyat Ferrari Marineo.
They did it, you know, in the factory,then they do it in front of Enzo's
old house office, blah, blah, blah.
And he was standing there nextto an F 40, all dressed up in his
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suit and everything looking good.
And supposedly he wanted to havea black F 40 and Ferrari said,
Nope, that's not happening.
So they had the red one in there, but.
The F 40 is one of Lewis Hamilton's alltime favorite road going cars, so he
would love, again, we don't know wherethis conversation has gone with Ferrari.
If this is just something, you know,you're playing that game where he's
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gonna drop it out on social mediaand the news and stuff like that.
Then try and see if it goes somewherebecause it's got wheels, you know,
make it more of a public forum typediscussion than a behind doors closed
discussion with Ferrari themselvesbefore anything gets said or released.
But he would love.
To have Ferrari build him forhim for release, I guess limited
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production, but a modern F 40 with.
Jumble a manual transmission,which everyone went nuts about.
'cause everyone's kind ofbeen clamoring and everything.
You know, Ferrari come out, everyoneelse is coming back to offering or
putting in manual transmissions.
I mean, obviously this isa kind of a higher level.
You get in the hyper criteria likeKonig Sag, paani, they're doing it.
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Porsche's always offered a manual'cause hey, their buyers want it.
But I think you're going to seea lot of other manufacturers
step in and offer that.
As an option on their cars.
Now, way back when, for those of us of,I guess you would say certain age bracket
demographic used to be when you boughta new car or you went to spec a new car,
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order a new car, everything, way backwhen manual transmission was standard.
And you had to pay extra to getan automatic transmission in
your car and it wasn't cheap.
You know, a lot of these things, Imean, it was an expensive option.
I mean, I know back at BMW back inthe day and it was almost like a
$1,500 option to get an automatictransmission put in your car.
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So people were like, forget that,you know, it was like, had a mail
and people grew up driving manuals.
I grew up my first Carver manual.
A majority of people I'm surewill probably listen to this,
their first Carver manual.
No, you wanna teach your kids how todrive a manual 'cause it's just, you're
more involved in the experience andit's such a different driving experience
when you are rowing your own gears.
It's phenomenal.
Anyways.
The discussion was had, you know, Iguess a lot of people kind of tweaked it,
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you know, it's like the telephone game.
It started, the story was here,and then by the time it got to this
end, it was completely different.
But you know, people puttingtheir own spin and take on it.
You wanted and supposedly callit LH 44 or something like that.
You had the 44 designation and somehowsome way, which probably be a little
tough, but I mean it is Louis Hamiltonand you know, hey, if he can deliver.
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A world championship to Ferrariand Constructors Championship
with him and Charles Le Clare.
Then I, I think Ferrari,no, he, no problem.
He's gotta prove himselfjust because your name.
Yeah.
He's, you know, seven time world champion,F1 world champion, everything like that.
Yes.
No, he's got the CV to backup making this request.
But you know what?
A Ferrari just doesn't, they're prettystaunch in regards to how they operate
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their business, but his takeaway is no.
He wanted to have a modernF four manual transmission.
Now, what that would entail wouldbe V 12, which I would think that
yes, you'd have to go V 12 in thatmanual transmission all out F 50.
That would be the routeI'm sure they wanna go.
Now, would you just kind of tweak.
You know, make a more modernized versionlook of the F 40 or what have you.
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That would be kind of interesting tosee how they'd go about doing that.
I would say it's gottabe a road going car.
My guess and assumption, and if I said,I've touched on this before and said
it before, if they ever did anothermanual transmission car, it was gonna
be one of the I Kona series cars.
So whatever it may be, you know,obviously we just have the S SP three.
You got the SP one, SP two,you got the S SP three.
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You know, they do some one-offsfor very, very influential
customers, but it would be somewherealong the lines of Ioni series.
So 500 cars, maybe 250.
That's it.
And obviously you gotta havethat privilege and be offered
that golden ticket to buy one.
So basically, 99.9% of us in thisworld that are car fanatics and love
cars would never have the opportunityto drive one, let alone sit in one.
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Or maybe even get near one.
I mean, yeah, I'll probably seeone, a show or something like that.
Really cool, but just wouldn't happen.
I mean, obviously there's a very, very,very small portion of us that probably
get to experience an F 40 or an F 50 F 40.
More than likely you couldpossibly, because they're
over 1300 of 'em got built.
F 50 is not so much.
That's the only kind, I guess you wouldsay thing that would really suck about it.
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Us people here in the real worldwould never get afforded that
opportunity to, you know, if yougot deep pockets, hey, God bless you
and you can buy one awesome for you.
I, that's fantastic.
But you know, all of us out here that I.
Muck it every day, trying to earna living and to pay the bills
and keep a roof off our head.
And if we can be able to afford adecent fun car to have and do some
fun stuff on the weekends withour friends, that's fantastic, but
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we'd never get that opportunity.
So it's unfortunate.
But the engineering exercise of it wouldbe fantastic to see because it would
be awesome to see what they could putbehind that, because there's so many
things you can do now in regards to.
Making say a modern F 40 that'sgot a V 12 manual transmission.
Now, obviously with the missions andstuff like that, oh well it's gonna go
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back to, you know, twin turbo V eightbecause hey, mileage and mid blah,
blah, blah, all that kind of stuff.
But if you're doing a limited,serious car, doesn't matter.
Have at it whatever fees, whatevertaxes, whatever some would've to
pay because they're bringing thatinto their country or whatever.
So be it.
It's not gonna hurt anybody.
But you know, you have all the electronicnanny aids that the F 40 didn't have.
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That you could put on there,you know, obviously your trash
control, that kinda stuff.
I mean, hell, you could have the revmatching computer do that so you don't
have to worry about blip doing yourlittle heel toe when you're driving
the car, doing down shifts and that,which my opinion, I guess it would take
away from the experience, but there'sprobably should be a button in there.
Something.
Hey, turn that off.
I'm gonna do it becauseI know how to do it.
Again.
It would be interesting seeingwhat their take would be on that.
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Would they go basically stripped outminimalist like they did with the F 40?
No sound, Eddie?
No, nothing.
It's just basically at the tubs.
Some wheels, the steering wheeland some pedals have at it,
or do you do it up like that?
Kona Series R. I mean, those are.
Beautiful cars inside and out.
I mean, the leather, everything like that.
They're beautiful.
I mean, there's no doubt about that.
The craftmanship is there, so it's like,so what extent do you go with this car?
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My opinion, strip itout, make it minimalist.
We don't need.
A nav screen.
You don't need any of that stuff.
Just give us the basicgauges, everything like that.
Make a hookup for your phone and do a coolway to mount your phone in there somehow,
some way, because that's all, everyoneuses their phone for it this day and age.
You don't need those stupid assbig nav screens and all that stuff
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on there, running all your stuff.
It's a fricking waste of money.
You know what?
And the other problem is in five to10 years, the thing fucking breaks.
Pardon my French, you're screwed.
Trying to get it fixed for repair orwhatnot, you know, I dunno what's gonna
go on with a lot of these cars, youknow, down the road here when they have
all these electronics like that, you'rejust gonna have to have to scrap 'em.
Because it will make absolutelyzero sense to pay to try and have
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it fixed or repaired or anythinglike that because of the cost of it.
It's like, I'll just go get another car.
You know?
It's unfortunate.
People are gonna have to be very,very, um, smart picking through the
junkyards and breaker yards and stuffto find old units that still work to
be able to pull that out, to put it in.
But then you gotta program all stuff.
There's a lot of stuff there, right?
You basically gonna have to have aMicrosoft computer degree or whatever
you wanna call it, and programming andcoding and whatnot to figure it out.
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My suggestion, I think, I thinkZen Bo does this with their cars.
They don't have a NAV scan like that.
They got your basic one that's gotyour stuff on there, but for NAV
and all that stuff, they have thisreally cool mount for your phone.
Everything like that sticksin and plugs in connection.
The phone, hey, goes through thespeaker, it's got the Bluetooth or
plug it in, which I think is fantastic.
You can design a really cool.
Tray or a holding thing for yourphone where it sets in there, whatever
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shape or form or, so it's visible.
You can see it's laying there.
Obviously phones these daysare a certain size and shape.
Trying to come up with somethinglike that that can fit in there.
But just put something inthere where, okay, it's makes
it snug or tight, whatever.
They'll put something in there,some material, something that can
adjust to make it nice and snugin there and tight figure it out.
It's not that hard, butthat would be my suggestion.
Just keep it minimalist inthat interior on this car.
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So, because if that's whatyou're going for in regards
to having a new modern F 40.
That's what it needs to be.
Something light some top and makethat glorious V 12, sing the F 50
sounds beautiful when you put somepipes on everything like that.
Oh my God.
That thing's just absolutely,absolutely phenomenal.
And people are realizing that, andthat's why those cars are all approaching
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the $6 million mark, especiallyif it's a US factory built one.
It's obscene.
You're holding steady at about two anda half to three and a half million,
maybe up to 4 million on, uh, forties,depending on mileage, that kinda stuff.
History, everything like that.
Used to be they F 50, F four wereabout priced the same F 50 used to,
and F four used to be a lot cheaper.
But now people are realizing,the fact is that was the last
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V 12 manual Ferrari built.
It's got some age to it and everythinglike that, but it's gained some traction.
Now, as a side note, if you havenot gone on the internet and looked
up the F 50 gt, you wanna talkabout how that car should look?
Check that out.
'cause I wanna tell you, the F50 GT is absolutely beautiful.
Now, I know there's a lot of people outthere that aren't a fan of how that wing
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is molded into the back of the thing.
So take a look at the F 50 gt,'cause it basically eliminates that.
There's still a wing, but it'sa completely different look.
The front end, the back of everything.
It's phenomenal.
There's only two three F 50 GTS built.
They're rares, hence teeth.
I would love to see someone and obviouslydo it with the higher mileage F 50, but
body scan it and get one of these carbonmanufacturers everything, do the body
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panels up and do a whole new, put thekit on there on your car and do it up.
I mean, save your original stuff,but I think they'll look cool.
But anyway, back to the topic at hand.
Louis Hamilton's request, or Iguess you would say nudge out in
social media News world about doinga modern take on the F 40 for him.
I would love to see it.
I think it'd be phenomenal.
But again, also touching on, youknow, he said something about we
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having to call the LH 44, somethinglike that, blah, blah, blah one.
It messes up the lineage in regardsto the designations On the car.
You have F 40, F 50, then you gointo your end zone, your LA Fry.
Now you have F 80.
It kind of making a step back.
I think he can get away withit, but it'd be interesting to
see what they would call it.
'cause the other thing I justbriefly mentioned is Lewis has
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not done anything at Ferrari yet.
If he brings the driver's championshipor even helps him brings the Constructor
Championship with him and Charles, thenokay, I could see the justification.
I mean, look up McLaren.
Building the Senate.
He won all his titles.
His three titles, threetitles with McLaren.
I know, if not there,correct me if I'm wrong.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
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So I think that gave McLaren the right tocome out with a model called the Senate.
'cause he spent the good majorityof his career at McLaren.
Obviously he only had those very short,what is it, six months, five, six months
at Williams until he tragically passed.
So I think Lewis is goingto have to step up his game.
Before something like that could happen.
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I mean, could be wrong.
I mean, like I said, youknow, Lewis's CV is fantastic.
Seven world Championships prove himself.
He is, you know, one of thebest drivers of all time.
It, it is out there.
But it's that kinda adage though,that always kind of irks me.
You know, obviously yougotta have the best car.
All these guys on the grid, theyknow how to drive a race car.
Obviously there's a couplethat are above everyone else.
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They can squeeze those few extra10 tents out of the car Max.
We're stopping for one.
But how much is it the car that helpsbecause you put Max back into a Williams
or you put him in the S or something?
Yeah, he is not gonna be, Idon't know if you can get up
into the midfield with that car.
'cause way regulations areand everything like that.
You know, everything's supposed to bepretty similar and everything like that.
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But everything comes down to aerodynamics.
You know, you look at from first tolast in qualifying, everything that
led to, I mean, you are so tight.
You know, you look at it like, wow, hewas only five tenths, two tenths slower.
But in they look at that insidethemselves, they're like, holy crap.
That's like eons.
Supposedly Ferrari's got an upgradedfloor for this weekend for about rain.
So it's gonna be interesting to see thatcould really change up the dynamics or
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give 'em that few extra tents they need.
They're not that far behind.
McLaren, you know, obviouslywe're talking, it's McLaren, then
Mercedes, red Bull, then Ferrari.
Well, no, I take that back probablyMcLaren, Mercedes, Denver, Ferrari, then
Red Bull, because Red Bull is lacking.
I mean, they got the best driveron the grid right now and he's
coming out to be probably one of thegreatest of all time in stopping.
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But Yuki and, and a side note,I think Liam Lawson got screwed.
They didn't give him a chance and again.
How's he gonna drive somethingand give him two raises a car?
He never even drove everything like that.
I mean, it's a tricky car to drive.
I thought he got the shortend of the stick on that.
I wanna say he approved or whatever,but it's gonna be interesting to see if
they give the whole season now to Yuki,like, yeah, all right, we're gonna just
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go the, we're gonna, we ride until wedie, so to speak and see what happens.
But you know, that's gonna kill 'emin the Constructors championship
because as of now, max is theonly one scoring points for them.
Liam in the first two, and thenYuin and the last one in Suzuka.
You know, they didn't score inpoints, so it's gonna be interesting
to see how that plays out.
But anyways, again, back to Lucy'srequest and dilemma at Ferrari.
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I. He's an old guy.
Well, I dunno, if you look atAlonzo Lonzo's going, what?
He's 44, 3 43 years old.
44 years old.
Lewis is 40, 41 yearsold, something like that.
So he's only got really a few years left.
I mean, he's still driving toplevel, there's no doubt about that.
But I don't care.
What anyone says is you age and youget older, your brain changes and the
dynamics in your head and how you thinkof things and look at things changes.
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Dramatically from when youwere late teens, early mid
twenties, even late twenties.
Brain develops.
You get more thoughts in regardsto your keeping yourself safe,
not taking some of the risks.
'cause I mean, you're talking,you could be in some mega crash.
I mean, look what happened withJack Doula, who, again, in my
opinion, it's getting screwedby Flave Bear, Tori, which.
Is odd because Flavio is his manager.
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I've never been a fan of Flavio.
Uh, I think he's a piece of dirtthe way he goes about business.
I just can't stand him.
And I can't believe Alpine.
Alpine brought him back.
But you know what?
It is what it is.
They're desperate andthey're trying anything.
So, but anyways, you know, my guess wouldbe if Lou can prove himself this year.
And finish in the top three in regardsto points and maybe somehow some
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way they can eke out the battle withMcLaren and with the Constructors
Championship, which I just, I don'tknow what to see after this weekend.
I think it'll prove it because,you know, again, 2026 season.
Completely different regulations,completely different cars.
The rules are changed completely.
Now, of course the scuttlebutt is, theymight put it on hold and wait till 2028
'cause they wanna bring back v tens'cause of the sound, blah, blah, blah.
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You know, which I think theycould do, 'cause the sustainable
fuels, everything like that.
Instead of trying to go the hybrid route,electric route, I think they could go
back that route because the sustainablefuels that are, could be coming out
now that are available are phenomenal.
The WRC runs all their cars on it.
That would be brilliant to see.
But F1 teams are so far into theirprograms in designing, building,
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and constructing their 2026 car,they would lose a ton of money.
I dunno how you recoup that r and d andthat investment saying they push it out to
say, okay, we're gonna push this to 2028.
We're just gonna stick with thesame cars for the next two years.
Well, three years include this seasonand then 2028 we're gonna drop it.
We're, we're gonna redo it all again.
Completely redo it.
We're gonna do the vtens, blah, blah, blah.
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All stuff, which I would be all forbecause I just think it would be
phenomenal the way they would sound.
Of course, I'm curious to seehow things sound next year.
'cause the way they are changing up thepowertrain, I think there's opportunity
there to make 'em sound better, but.
There is nothing, nothing like thesound of those v tens screaming.
That is just such a glorious sound.
Now I remember being at Indianapolisbefore the F1 races there and just
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standing right there at the fence.
They were starting right there.
The starting grid.
Obviously they were going the oppositeway, but all those cars just screaming.
I mean, it is just, oh God, it'ssuch a beautiful, beautiful sound.
I was dumb enough not to bewearing, I guess, earplugs 'cause
it was loud, but I didn't care.
So anyways, I could see if Louis.
They do something this yearfar is able to do something.
There's no way he's gonna win the WorldChampionship this year ain't happening.
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They might have a crack atthe constructors, depending
how things play out.
There's some stuff where McLarendoesn't score points, their cars
drop outta cars, anything like that.
So right now there's a shot there.
After a few more races, we'll see.
No, they don't have a shot'cause it'll be XY 'cause of
points will just be outta whack.
I mean, the one thing they do havegoing, they're both scoring points, but
they're not getting up high enough inthe points to really kind of do anything.
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But he would have to win a worldchampionship in the next three years
for, I think, to justify Ferrari comingout with a car like that for him.
He hasn't been there long.
He hasn't proven thing, he hasn't likeestablished like, oh, he is a Ferrari guy.
I mean.
If anything, Ferrari comes out andcalls it the Schumacher, call it the Ms.
Ford, you know, whatever.
Call it after Schumacherand build that way.
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You know, that I thinkwould go over very well.
That I feel is justified.
Maybe after Lewis retires he cango back and go to Mercedes and they
could come out with something special.
You know, something along those lines.
But Ferrari should build that car.
Yes.
Come out with the modern F 40.
Put in a V 12 manual in it.
Bare bones make that thing a screamer.
Just sound awesome.
I mean, obviously you gotregulations, but put it in mind that
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when you build it, construct it.
Hey, it passes all your missions andregulations for the countries it's getting
sold in, but also keep it in the backof your mind when you engineer it that,
okay, hey, make it easy to modify thatcar sound-wise, everything like that.
Something along those lines.
I mean, it's not thatdifficult to do, I don't think.
But Ferrari definitelyneeds to build that car.
I don't think it should be in the nameof tribute, whatever, to Lewis Hamilton.
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He hasn't earned it yet at Ferrari.
Has he earned something like thatalong the lines of his career?
Yes, I agree with that.
But not at Ferrari?
Not yet.
They're gonna do it.
Name it in name of, uh, Schumacher.
You know what, what washis thing in the grid?
MSC, whatever it was.
You know, come up withsomething along those lines.
Now, like I said, r and dand development, everything.
They have to build thatroad going car and do it.
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That's a multi-year endeavor.
If they don't have somethingstarted now or kind of in the works.
If they just start now, 'cause that'swhat's come out and they got like a small,
Hey, let's just start dipping our toe intothe pool so to speak with this and start
doing some basic design, blah, blah, blah.
That kind of stuff.
I don't think you really gotta get somuch into trying to look at budgets
and RD, like we'd say a afforded GMdoes, okay, what's it gonna cost?
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Here's the budget.
This is what you got, this is whatwe need to come out with, blah blah.
It's more along the lines, Hey, whateverwe can come up with, we can build it.
'cause we can charge whatever the fuck.
Frick we want, so you're gonna recoup yourmoney and make a boatload off of each car.
So I don't think that would factor in somuch, but I think, you know, timeframe
wise, but if you start now, you couldhave that car out in four or five years.
So that would give enough window andjust say, okay, it's internal code name.
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Is LH 44, but the actual name ofthe car might be something along the
lines of at tribute to Schumacher.
'cause Lewis just didn'tdo anything at Ferrari.
I mean, I think if you leave that dooropen, but obviously the thing that's
gonna kind of bite him in the asses,there's gonna be a lot of leaks.
There's gonna be people poking their nosearound and if they find out, well they
internally, they were kind of making itlike LH 44, but then they come out and
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actually name it when they start movingcars to customers, it's after Schu mark.
I think that could createa real bad PR problem.
So I don't know howthey would address that.
I mean.
Keep it under the wraps, justname it something differently
internally, you know, who knows?
Um, call it the next awesome Ferrari.
Something like that.
Internally, I don't know, dosomething along those lines.
But it would take them probably atleast five years, maybe four, if they
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pushed it to come up with what they do.
If you look at what they did for theSP three, the SP three was based on
an existing chassis they already had.
They just put the V 12 in itand did all that kinda stuff.
So it wasn't that tars, mainly a lotof body work they did to that car and
then inside it and everything like that.
So it wasn't that difficult.
To bring that car to market.
Now this would have to be, I wouldthink a completely new car chassis.
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They could possibly build it on that 4, 9,9 customer version car, take that chassis
and then do something along those lines.
And a side note, if you have not seenthat F 80 in person thing is absolutely.
Awesome.
I mean, you could take that chassisand do something with it, I guess the
F 80 chassis, which is based off the4 99 customer car, that's track only.
So you could do something with that,that would save significant amount.
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But you know, you have thetub, you have everything.
But then again, it's like, all right,you're gonna have to really make it look
different than the F 80, and you're gonnahave to make it something so spectacular.
Do you make it above the F 80 in regardsto performance and everything like that?
Or do you make it a step down?
I mean, where do you go with that?
Because you can upset somepeople, so I don't know.
It's kind of an interesting conundrumthat they could have on their hands.
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'cause I don't think this is gonnago anywhere and I think this is gonna
be a topic that's gonna be brought upfor at least the near future for the
next six to eight months, especiallydepending on how the season goes.
Because if you know who LooseHamilton wins the race or two starts
having some success, that's gonnacome to the forefront of everyone's
conversation with anybody from Ferrari.
So how's the RD coming on Lewis?
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Hamilton's new, uh, take onthe F 40, blah blah, blah.
You know that stuff.
So.
They're gonna have an interesting,uh, little, uh, thing on their
hands coming here this year.
So it's gonna be interestinghow it plays out.
I mean, I'm all for it.
Like I said, it would definitelybe in a Kona series car, but if
they're gonna do it, make it amanual V 12 minimalist inside.
Just do the what you need.
No screens on that crap.
Don't need it.
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Just be it where you can just plug yourphone in and have everything on that.
Make an app that once you plug yourphone in, all your diagnostics,
all that crap goes into that.
You just give your basic gauges, yourrev counter, your speedo, some oil
pressure, your temp gauge, your gas gauge.
That's it.
That's all you need.
Don't need anything else.
And maybe, you know, put a niceclock in the one spot, maybe, I
don't know, something on those sides.
But that's my take on that.
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Like I said, you know, I touched onthis in previous episodes in regards
to them bringing it back a manual andstuff like that, but that was just me.
Just swirled in my head.
This actually has got tractionbecause the request has been come
from Sir Lewis Hamilton himself,so we'll see where it goes.
It's gonna be very, very interestingto see how this plays out.
Could you imagine it'd be pheno?
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Could you imagine how fun that2 96 would be in a Emmanuel?
I was at MotorTrend Road Track,how they did a little conversation
with one of the guys, marketing,PR guy, whatever, from Ferrari.
Their thought is, oh no, flappy paddle.
Well, you know, is that performance?
It's that they don't get it.
It seems to be in regards to.
The percentage of how these cars aredriven on the road and compared, driven
on the track, everything like that,and that visceral experience that
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you get out of driving a manual, it'dbe awesome to see that, but there's
no way to do swaps on those 'causeelectronics, everything like that.
It's just impossible.
But it would be awesome to seeif they came out and they did a
special edition I COEs series.
New take on F 40.
That's my opinion.
Appreciate it.
Remember, hit up thewebsite, check it out.
If you got any thoughts, stufflike that, just shoot me an email.
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It's william@theferrarimarketplace.comand stay tuned.
More episodes cominghopefully on a weekly basis.
Depending on my schedule.
I'm gonna do what I can remember.
Check out the website, check outour social medias, and also check
out, you know, the Garage 65 stuff.
That's pretty much encompasseseverything under the sun that I get into.
Looking forward to it.
Appreciate it.
Stay tuned till the next episode.
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