August 4, 2025 • 60 mins
In this episode of Screen to Speed, powered by INIT Esports, the spotlight falls on Ekaterina Nazarova, a remarkable female motorcycle coach and racer who has made a significant mark in the world of motorsports. Her personal journey from Russia to Dubai is driven by a series of transformative experiences in her life that serendipitously aligned to bring her there. Once in Dubai, she transitioned from being a car lover to discovering her passion for motorcycles. Ekaterina underscores the cultural differences and the challenges of establishing a motorsports career in Dubai compared to Europe. She elaborates on her transition from racing to coaching during COVID-19, and how she used her expertise to coach others, especially women and children, along with her efforts to promote safe riding practices. So buckle up – Screen to Speed starts now!
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00:00 Meet Our Guest: Ekaterina Nazarova (a.k.a. "Shark Katrin") 01:07 From Russia to Dubai: A Life-Changing Move 05:22 Discovering Motorcycles in Dubai 12:38 Racing Adventures and Memorable Podiums 18:12 Transition from Racing to Coaching 25:34 Coaching Philosophy and Training Programs 30:45 The Importance of Racing on Tracks 31:32 Coaching Female Racers; the Learning Process and Gender Differences 39:33 Favorite Motorcycles and Racing Experiences 49:24 Transitioning from Street to Track Riding 54:22 Future Plans and Final Thoughts====================
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Hi guys.
Welcome everyone to New Talks.
Uh, happy to see everybody here today.
We got
everybody's, hello, hello, hello, hello.
Um, so she is a motorcyclecoach and a great person also.
We get to know her today.
Um, so, uh, you could again, and let'sstart from, uh, you, you've been born in
(01:13):
Russia and uh, then you moved to Dubai.
Yeah.
Like, uh, 14 years ago.
So, uh, can you tell me what,uh, brought you there originally?
Well, it is a very nice, and it's aspecial story always for me, and it
will be this personal story becauseit has something with, uh, law of
Abstraction and I watched movie A Secret.
(01:36):
Yeah.
It's material beginning.
I know.
Yeah.
So.
Just, it's been like those days,the secret movie wasn't, um, like
no free like this on YouTube.
You can find everywhere those days, atleast to me, maybe I never saw before.
And I saw one successful mangive it to a friend of mine,
one like disk, really disk.
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And he said, watch it anddo not let see no one.
Mm-hmm.
And of course there is nothingmore important being that time than
for me to reach that, that disc.
Mm-hmm.
I had to see one thereand I was definitely, yes.
And I was young.
I was like, I think 20,maybe 20 or 21 years old.
(02:18):
Mm-hmm.
Not even 21 before 21.
So, and then I made it.
So I was just moving like there is like,you know, like you can't hear nothing.
You don't sell nothing.
You just a hundred percent focus.
And well, it's similar, like ifyou're gonna, if you're racing,
who knows who raised the know.
Mm-hmm.
So you remove everythingelse, you have one thing.
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So I watch this movie the same and fromthat days I used these instruments and
one time I was driving in my countryin Russia, I was driving a car and
I hit the old and this God its nameblah, you know, the holes, some bad
condition road is Russian style.
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Mm-hmm.
So I look at it and I said, Isaid I wish to be in Theam Road
when there is nothing and that beamazing, like so flat and so nice.
And I put it in my heart and that feeling.
And then I put my eyes up and itwas a stein board, like, you know,
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putting indicators like mm-hmm.
For dry.
And I look at it, it was kind of rusted.
And I look and I said, look at that.
How look angry that I wanna seean nice, beautiful signboard.
And even if I don't know what writtenthere, let me not even understand
what's there, but I want to see that.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and then it was cold.
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It's three in one, like, youknow, three in one, I'm cold.
I'm like, it's too much cold.
You know, I wanna be somewherewhere no winter existing really.
Mm-hmm.
And three things.
I was having that special feeling.
And I do have a timeto time and I love it.
It's my favorite.
So some mystical happened that timeand everything start to change.
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My life just put me in onedirection, which is Dubai.
And I was resisting.
Mm-hmm.
Literally resisting.
I'm like, Dubai, no way.
What I gonna do there?
I don't speak English.
I know nobody there.
Nothing.
And I heard, you know, things about it.
It's not like I'm notgonna put myself there.
Mm-hmm.
Because that's what Iheard sometimes before.
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And I'm like, no way.
But live, play.
A very nice joke.
And it was a one way ticket.
I will not go to, to reallydeep explanation, just
no problem after problem.
It's, it's like, it's like from moviesto be honest, it's another story.
Maybe one day again shared.
That's special.
Special time.
Probably not, not today.
So, and I had really no way tostay in Russia and I had to go
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somewhere and not come back.
And guess what?
It's been Dubai.
I came to Dubai.
I look man.
Soundboards.
Beautiful.
I sold them somewhere.
Well, it's in my head, the road.
Amazing.
Wow.
And guess what?
There is no winter.
Mm-hmm.
Imagine.
Yeah.
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Other story.
Yeah.
That's really nice story about this.
So you actually like, resistyour dream and uh, then move, uh,
to your, your dream, uh, city.
That's really cool.
Um, how Dubai change, uh, like yourview on motorsports and uh, how is it
compared to what you had in Russia?
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And I, I know that you also race inEurope and uh, so tell me more about this.
Alright, nice question.
Well, in Russia, I was a car lover.
I knew nothing about motorcycle.
Nothing.
Not at all.
So in Dubai, even not too soon,it's been like, I think about maybe
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five, four years I was in Dubai.
I was doing war, then I did business.
And then out nowhere my friendcome up with a story like Katrina.
Let's do, she was partner, um,with the beer salon hair before.
Uh, so I said, let's domotorcycle, you know, journey.
We go to America and we are gonnaride this road amazing over there.
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I'm like, what an idea.
What an idea.
It's so amazing idea.
It wasn't mine.
I'm like, yeah, okay.
What's the plan?
And she was like a mainhit, you know, in plants.
Okay.
And so she said, very easy.
We are gonna make a license.
Okay.
I'm like, okay.
She was much biggerthan me, very big lady.
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So she was about a hundred plus kilograms.
I'm like, all right, I don't know howshe gonna do it, but I will do it.
Okay.
So
I'm doing it.
So I knew nothing about it.
I just went there.
How very Well, I bit early than that.
I had bad days and I was listening somevideos, which is might help me to go
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out from my mood, which is, was so down.
And the video said you take alist, uh, like a paper and pen
and write down a hundred points.
Mm-hmm What you wanna do,but don't think about it.
And I'm like, alright.
So I did it.
It's been maybe months backthen I moved, moved my house.
Nothing.
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But when we start, this lady and me, wedid driving license for a motorcycle.
I was knew, I knew nothing.
I crashed.
First day, went to the wall, nothing.
I knew absolutely it.
Then I come back home, I found thispaper and it's written on the middle,
written, I wanna ride motorcycleand I wanna do extreme sport.
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Mm-hmm.
I knew nothing about it.
I was so sure.
Ideas or it's not mine,you know, so it's me there.
That's how magic happened, basically.
Mm-hmm.
So it's been somewhere inside me, butI knew probably nothing subconsciously.
So that's why when you writedown something fast, you don't
analyze, you don't put a border,which is our head sometimes.
Mm-hmm.
Very often you, you just, you know,put both fast, fast, fast, fast.
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And the subconscious will be, youknow, open up and it'll be speaking
things, which is, you don't know.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
That's what happen.
Interesting.
So it's probably been way likefrom that I believe it's been
from God, it's the destiny.
And that's came a time.
Mm-hmm.
That's it.
And I need a license.
So I cannot say how I knewit before Russia, because I
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knew it from Dubai, but from.
Then I'm training.
I train every day, man, every day.
Then I became ready for some reason,for a challenge, for a championship.
Mm-hmm.
Then I start to race, and thenI discover Europe, main places
in Europe and then Russia.
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So I saw it little bit later.
Mm-hmm.
I can compare, but, but it's notlike people might expect, you know?
Yeah.
So it was amazing.
Yes.
It's beautiful.
Mm-hmm.
But, but mobile sports Exactly.
Particularly bikes is on the back.
Mm-hmm.
Where in the back, yes.
Where everywhere.
Probably first or many, many Where?
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Dubai.
And it's my favorite country.
I do it.
Beautiful country everywhere, leading,but for some reason, motorcycle,
particularly in Dubai, is notat the first, it is not leading.
Mm-hmm.
Not at all.
Yeah.
We have Qatar, in Qatar, we havemotor gp, um, like 35 racetrack.
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Mm-hmm.
If, let's say from GCC countries, yes.
But in Dubai, we don't have a truck,which is certified for auto GP
yet, but I believe we will do it.
Yeah.
I believe, yeah.
That, that's really interesting so far.
Uh, because, uh, you, you know,in my, in my point of view, I
see that Dubai is really a gooddevelopment in developing, uh, racing.
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Uh, so here's a lot of, uh, marathonslike, uh, long endurance races, uh, with
GT cars and uh, something like this.
Yep.
So I felt that maybe, uh, motorsport also, um, like not on
the back as you said, um, but Ihope it's going to develop, uh.
With some time because if, uh, peoplegetting into it, more people, um, like
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getting into the sports and it's goingto grow anyway, I'm sure it'll be a right
time for that and I will do it properly.
Mm-hmm.
I'm sure however, just there are alittle bit gap, I believe where is a
people not obeying enough regime ofsafe riding, uh, style here by, in the
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motorcycle and is developing, uh, youknow, likely not pleasant opinion and in
generally, uh, motorcycle biking style.
Mm-hmm.
In general, if you say I'mriding motorcycle over there is.
People are paying it.
Yes, that's true.
Mm-hmm.
It's maybe being so far, many,most of the countries, I believe,
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but yeah, it's, I have to say it,we, we, we need a proper place.
So proper, we need a bit of support thatcould have saved from the government.
Mm-hmm.
It's, it's, honestly, it's very hard.
I am a motorcycle coach today.
I'm training people.
I believe I'm touching peoplelives and, you know, helping them.
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Mm-hmm.
For some reason, PE people needalways, not just like that.
It's always, people need each other,so, and I believe I, I'm kind of
that bridge from, you know, being abridge from human to what they need.
Mm-hmm.
Like, like that.
Yeah.
From the help or maybefulfilling their dreams.
Sometimes it's a safety, whatever.
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So it's, it's a bit difficult for me to,um, how to say, to, to, to grow, let's
say, to touch more, uh, souls and hearts.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, by doing it pretty so much alone.
I do have a lot of partners, companieswith who we do collaboration mm-hmm.
Support each other.
Mm-hmm.
But again, it's on the groundfloor, it's not on government level.
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Yep.
So, yeah.
That, that's the difficulty.
Land is a bit expensive and, youknow, this is the main thing so far.
Mm-hmm.
So far.
The rest is, everything is, uh, amazing.
But I never stop.
It's been from 2020, no,2021 actually to today.
It's a full-time coach.
Mm-hmm.
No part-time, nothing.
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It's a completely full-time coach.
Even summer today, my firstsummer, I'm out of Dubai, but I
never stopped before, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Also, I know that, that you race, uh,like in many, uh, countries, and, uh,
can you tell me which podium, uh, finishfelt the most special to you and why?
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And, and then we'll move toactually to coaching because it's
really interesting also how youswitch from racing to coaching.
Coaching.
Sure.
Well, yes, it's a, it's a verynice special to me, um, event.
I can say one of them.
It's first of course, right?
Mm-hmm.
First race, one of them.
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But something else happenedin Italy in general, and the
feeling I've been searching.
Again and again, and it's never come back.
I found out over there a feelingcame to me during the race, and
it's never come back after that.
Imagine what happened.
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I'll tell you, I didn'tshare, by the way, this story.
Mm-hmm.
Like this, like in public.
I never did it before.
I think so.
Forgive me people if I forgetsomething, but I don't really remember.
I shared That's okay.
But I did.
But I did share peoplelike this face to face.
Yes.
Uh, a feeling is veryinteresting, like being from so
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stressed, I felt I'm not ready.
And I also felt maybe Iwill, I will back off.
Imagine.
Yeah.
I had that feeling.
So maybe not today, you know, who cares?
But then I imagine like,all right, imagine Katrina.
I talk to myself like that.
Imagine if you did not do itpast time and then you look back
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and you nothing you can change.
Mm-hmm.
How would you feel about it?
And I'm like, no way.
No way.
No, no, no way.
And I did, so I raced, of course Ijumped to the race after this thinking.
Mm-hmm.
So, and then what happened whileI'm racing, it's like, um, we have
first corner and that corner, andthat then rabata this corner I know.
Later.
And another story, I'll tell you why.
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Anyway, so, so what happens is all of asudden motorcycle became all wait list.
Mm-hmm.
I could, it's all, it's in any way.
Very light.
Uh, it's very hard, very heavy.
And the breaking guess.
But on, on from Januarythe ride, it's light.
Yeah.
So far.
If you, of course, but all ofa sudden it's a new feeling.
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It's light in a way that itis floating above the ground.
That is completely like usuallyI feel every grip, I feel,
every angle, even every stone.
Mm-hmm.
But this time, nothing like that.
This time there is no grip at all.
I don't feel touch.
So, and it is above the racetrack?
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Mm-hmm.
Maybe two meters or two and ahalf meters if I have to say it.
So it's literally up.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
It's the first thing.
And then what happened?
The sound in my headdisappeared completely.
Plan in my head disappeared.
Even I didn't remember.
Next will be right or left nothing.
Even the gear whichgear, nothing which lap.
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Mm-hmm.
Completely nothing.
So that's not normal,you know, for racing.
You, you are still strategic.
So focused.
But I was focused but nothing.
So I only see myself pastand it is something else.
God knows what and don't know what.
So all of these qualities,even I missed the code.
Like I missed the gearbecause I'm like, oh really?
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This will be right now.
Okay, so gear should bego up, like go down sheet.
Mm-hmm.
And raising its opposite.
And I managed to do it andcover the mistakes, everything.
And guess what, when I finished therace, I was like the biggest, my
personal lap time ever, I did it.
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
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So I was the path that I couldbelieve that time to my time.
Yeah.
Not over, not overall.
So.
It was a state of mind, unbelievable.
And I asked so many riders, guys,did you have anything like that?
What, what?
What I ask all riders experience.
Like many people, I asknobody, nobody find this.
And they said, yes.
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I felt every stone.
It's not about every stone,it's about there enough stone.
It's about your two, almostthree meters up, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Stone, nothing.
So I thought, unfortunately Ididn't find, um, uh, nobody who,
who experience same till day to day.
Maybe somebody from people whowas watching today, us, maybe they
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command somewhere, somebody who hadthe same, I would literally wanna
talk to this person, connect, andwe know we have things to discuss.
Yeah.
Wow, that's really magicalstory about your race.
And, uh, it is.
Yeah.
That's why it's really special for you.
So I feel you about this.
It's, um, yeah.
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You know what, I, Iwant podium by the way.
Yeah.
If I was there that day, I had topoint the podium, I have to mention.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I still, you know, stillremember how I won, uh, one of
the first races in, in cars.
Uh, I remember a guy, uh, beencrying after this, uh, because
he, he won the championship.
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Uh, but there was like, uh, thespecial event, uh, in the end
of the season and I won this.
And, uh, he's been crying.
Oh.
And then, yeah, I was like nine yearsold, 10 years old, something like this.
It's happy and sad, you know?
Yeah.
Happy because it's very happy.
Of course.
And sad because, you know,someone was crying, but it's
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what Well, I'm proud of you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Uh, so let's move how you, uh, like, uh,change from, uh, being in racing, uh,
racing motorcycles to actually coaching.
So what lead you to dothis decision in your life?
Okay, this time will be,no, it'll be really normal.
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Oh, alright.
Very normal story.
Okay.
Uh, it was a COVID,very simple COVID time.
My, my last race I was racing, uh,no, no, pretty last, but the last one.
Complete lost.
I had to pull myself out becausewe couldn't, we had to say our.
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Supporters, people who comes fans,we have to tell them you cannot come.
And it was my principle, maybe likeI, I, I lost the position overall.
Oh no, the, the final championship.
I moved to be third, but I was supposed tobe second or overall it was really, like,
for me, achievement to be second is hard,to be honest, because the only boys were
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there and they're all mostly experienced.
I was the only lady to be second or it's,it's, it's a big thing to be honest.
And I had to make a decision thatI cannot come and tell guys, do not
come, you know, don't come here.
You'll be knocking the doors, butno, no security, you cannot come.
Mm-hmm.
So for me it was a kind of.
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You know, human being and principle.
Maybe some people can tell me now,you know, it's a sport and you have
to go on people heads or whatever.
So you're not a good sportsman.
Maybe, you know, maybe.
But for me it was more, more of humanityand respect people who really, you know.
Mm-hmm.
And I did so much show that it'slast race, you know, there's so many
people wanted to come read so many.
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And I just couldn't do that.
And I pulled myself out last raceand I lost the position became
third automatically, and thenCOVID appeared a hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
And well, no sponsorships, nothing.
I had to survive.
I found a job, yes.
I was sales.
Later on, I said, look what I gonnado now We are living in Dubai.
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I have to work because not,no event is gonna happen.
Mm-hmm.
And during the COVID, I joined VMW.
Uh, so I was sales workthere for a year almost.
And then.
Things like maybe me.
Maybe what?
It was just not for me.
I think so.
Maybe God knows better why I thinkit's a God plan still because
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everything was so much unfair to me.
What happened as well, thatjob, I'm like, God, why think
that on unfair, you know, to me.
So, but then, so I resignedfrom them and I sat down and
I said, what I gonna do now?
You know, and I was so much tiredto worry the cha like, you know,
the payments here and there, whatI gonna do, how I gonna manage now?
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And I do allow bikes here, but what,how can I make living out of this?
And.
Some of my friends call and say,Katrina, you know, my friend need help.
Could you help, please?
I'm like, look, okay, I'm available.
I'm not working.
You know?
Mm-hmm.
Let's try it.
So we went to the parking and Isaw what I just, you know, few
touches, ta, ta, ta explained.
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Mm-hmm.
I saw Miracle.
I saw really miracle,unbelievable results.
And I'm like, how that possible?
I put my knee down one and a halfmonths, this person put it in one hour.
How that possible?
Mm-hmm.
You know, it was like a training for me.
It was a really like magic.
And he was really happy.
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And, and then another person,another person, and all things felt
by itself that, all right, mm-hmm.
I'm gonna coach and I'mgonna do this full time.
And well, it's, people are happy.
I'm doing the right thing.
I'm not living only for myself.
I do something good in this life.
That's what I feel.
And of course, it's, it's also rewarding.
Yeah.
So that's the story, the part, yeah.
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That, that's true.
You know, during COVID, I think alot of people changed their, uh,
direction of the life, uh, really.
Mm-hmm.
Like, uh, in the, uh, like,uh, the, in, in the hard way.
Uh, so I changed it too.
Uh, I've been into racing andthen unfortunately in 2000, uh,
15, so I've been into program.
(22:31):
We had plans, you know, till the formalone in all the series, uh mm-hmm.
Free in Spain.
Uh, but unfortunately Asna Motor Sports,uh, the team which, uh, support me in
this, uh, they just, uh, decided toshut down the program in Kazakhstan.
And, uh, then I've been, youknow, working in some racing, uh,
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club in, in Moscow, and I mm-hmm.
Moved here from El Matty.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and you know, I just, I started fromscratch, like you said, about motorcycles,
so I just knew nothing in PCs, in someracing hardware and all the stuff.
So I started to learn, uh, from scratch.
Uh, also coach people, so.
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From time to time, uh, in summer racing,uh, and then, uh, when COVID hits.
So I've lost my job in Moscow, uh, becauseall the malls just shut down completely.
Yeah.
And, uh, we, with my husband decidedthat, Hey, let's try like streaming.
Let's try to jump in.
And I started to stream and, uh, yeah, forfive years already, a full-time streamer.
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Amazing.
Amazing.
And doing this.
And it's, it's really rewardingbecause, you know, it's really
cool that you, uh, can see people,they coming to watch your race.
You can communicate with them.
It's really cool.
So yes, actually the sameas you said about coaching.
Uh, it's, it's really nice toinspire people, uh, because
some people come exactly to.
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Like, Hey, what, what to get to startwith, uh, some racing, um, how to start.
And you, you tell people aboutthis and then they, uh, coming to,
to you after months and they'relike, Hey, I bought the new wheel.
Hey, I just jump in.
I'm having a lot of fun.
Thank, thank you so much.
Yeah, it's it's really cool.
Exactly.
Um, well, my favorite feedbacks whenI say I'm receiving a phone call
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or a message and you know, I hearTrina, you know what happened, you
know, when they start like this, I'mlike, oh, wow, it's this message.
Probably gonna laugh.
I put a star on them andWhatsApp to see them, you know,
forever, but I have bad mood.
I'm gonna listen.
And they said, you know, Katrina,I, that corner, if you know, I did
what you tell me, that was amazing.
(24:45):
Or another thing can be, you know,Katrina today, thanks God, you, you know,
I get saved because we, you know, did.
Mm-hmm.
1, 2, 3, 4. These moments, it'sfor me, everything like I feel Yes.
You know, so I'm living for true,like I'm doing the right thing.
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I love what I do and I wanna eat more.
I wanna know how to come the planet.
Uh, yeah, like that.
Yeah.
It's real cool.
You know, when you inspire people, whenyou, uh, like can give advice, which going
to make their life safer and, uh, they'regoing to enjoy like riding more motorcycle
or being in some racing and enjoy it more.
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So it's really cool.
Correct.
Correct, correct.
Agree with you.
Uh, can you tell me aboutyour tr uh, training program?
So, um, what's different?
Uh, because you, you got different people.
Yeah.
Uh, like beginners.
You got, uh, I think kids also, uh,and, uh, like professional dri uh,
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professional riders, uh, as well.
So can you tell me about, uh, what'sthe difference between their programs,
uh, and, uh, like how you train them?
Okay.
Well, you write Absolutely.
We have kids.
Before I was just lawn and Igot a team, so I speak, we okay.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Okay.
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Uh, yeah.
So now some are, we are traveling hereand there, but of course we have also, uh.
So trainers and so wait.
We have kids.
They're so amazing and cute.
The program I, I, I adore to train kids.
Uh, it's very specialfor me for some reason.
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So it's cute bikes.
The, everything is so cuteand amazing, but it's a lot of
responsibilities, of course.
And I always said to trainon one kid, it's like, so.
Slash three adults.
Mm-hmm.
Like be, maybe, maybe for me atleast, you know, because I put
everything in it, the, the prediction,the i, i just in them, you know?
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Mm-hmm.
A hundred percent.
Mm-hmm.
It's, it's not easy.
Not at all.
But, uh, parallel.
Anyway, so, so kids, uh, we havefemale, uh, programs because also
we're in, you know, Muslim country.
Mm-hmm.
The, it's a cultural, yeah.
So we, I, this time I can say I mm-hmm.
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Because other trainers are men, soI can, I, I have a lot of ladies.
Yes.
It's make things are much morecomfortable for many ladies.
Mm-hmm.
When you know, a lady to late,two lady, and especially for their
husbands, it is amazing, comfortable.
Mm-hmm.
So yeah, ladies, then we have a normalgeneral beginners and advance, and we
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have also, not just advance, we do have.
Extreme classes, but I'mnot really advertising this.
Mm-hmm.
Because I'm more into safe safety,but it's only for those people
who gonna do this in any way.
Mm-hmm.
So I'm never pronouncing this whole.
Doing this in any way.
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But after a long time saying,I always put them, come on.
I do succeed in 90%, by the way.
90% by talking.
I said, look, why do you need a wheelie?
You know the wheelie?
Yeah, I know.
It's cool.
But come on, you know, if youare gonna do a leaning corners,
you'll, you know, these things are.
Something really needed.
And it is not, you're gonna bepunished by law because you're
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gonna do things like mm-hmm.
You know, wheelies, it's, it'sprohibited in the streets.
Come on.
And it is a lot risky.
For what?
For a couple of pictures?
No, you, no.
It's so much risk.
No need.
Okay.
No need.
So, but 10% I'm losing it.
Yeah, sometimes.
But mainly 90% people follow adviceand when they do truck riding, it's
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like, you, it is very good for your.
In general, be a good rider.
It does not mean you're gonna goon the streets, put a knee down.
It's a, it's a rule number one.
We are not doing this on the streets.
Never, never, never, never, ever.
We not do this, but we'regonna go and see the limits.
So we wanna put the knee downbecause we wanna see a limit, what
gonna happen in this situation.
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Mm-hmm.
And we're gonna do it togetherin the full safety gears.
We're gonna be in proper place and we'regonna be using right tools for that.
Not huge things to discoverand hurt themselves.
Yeah.
Uh, so, so far it's, it's a, the training.
I don't know.
Lately we have a lot new riders.
Some people said, Katrinabeen, I'm finally ready.
I'm following you for threeyears, you know, on my page, three
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years and something happened.
Now I'm ready.
So,
so, but, and like that and gifts also.
Somebody they said, all right, Idon't know what to give to now let's
say that person are gonna purchase,I don't know, five, 10 classes.
Somebody do one only to try.
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Uh, yeah.
This program as well also very useful.
It's really nice, uh, that you, forsafety side of course, uh, because you
know so many writers, especially onstreets, they sometimes doing some crazy
stuff, uh, which is dangerous for themand also for other people around them.
Like who also in motor, onmotorcycles or either in the car.
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Um, so I think you're doingreally good, uh, thing for.
Everybody, uh, you know, uh, likecoaching the safety and, uh, that
actually racing should happen onlyon racing track and, uh, exactly.
Yeah.
This is, uh, what I've been, uh,telling to people as well, uh, because
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it's, it's really funny, uh, whenyou in racing, uh, here's some weird
questions, um, by people who has been,uh, like interviewing you and they
like, Hey, do, do you race on streets?
I'm like, no, I'm, I'm for safety.
Come on.
I'm just, uh, yeah.
You know, I'm, come on.
If I in a car, I'm trying to be safe,safe for everybody and I respect rules
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and uh, everything and, uh, yeah, exactly.
Racing should happen only onracing track because we got like
safety zones, uh, where you canfall and not get any injuries.
And, uh, also that's.
Like the track to try,uh, different things.
Exactly, yeah.
It's real, really good.
It's like, it's like a ren to askRen for example, or Mc Tyson, like,
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are you fighting on the streets?
Yeah, true.
Can you imagine these guys,they will go and, you know,
fight on the streets with who?
Are you serious?
No.
No, no, man.
I'm not gonna do that.
No.
Can you tell me a bit more,uh, about how is it for you
to be a coach for, for girls?
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Uh, because I think it's a bit different.
Yeah.
And, um, in some racing, forexample, I found that, uh, for
girls it's, uh, a little bit easierto, uh, like communicate with me.
So I've been coaching, uh, some girls,uh, who are also streamers and they've
been really comfortable with me.
And, uh, then tell me about this and.
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So, how's it for you?
And, uh mm-hmm.
Do you think that maybe youcan build a maybe female, uh,
academia or something like this?
All right.
Well, um, female academia, I didn't,I would correct you a little bit.
Mm-hmm.
It is like female racing team.
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Female racing team.
I had it and planned then thingsare, I was too busy in work.
It just did not happen.
But it's still in my mindjust a female racing team.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But academic can, can't stop people,you know, they want, they wanna learn.
Yeah.
You're a man.
Not come.
No, it's not working.
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Yeah.
But it's, I adore my ladies and what.
I look, it's just general.
It's not to hurt a man feeling, let'ssay this way or so, but ladies, what
they do, how fast they learn mm-hmm.
They're like, statistically, I cannotsay a hundred percent on everybody,
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but it's not a number of, um, like aminimum, uh, statistically basically.
Mm-hmm.
That's what I wanna say.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
So sometimes it's easier to saysome, some things like that.
So statistically, ladiesare learning faster.
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Mm-hmm.
That's what I can ask, say.
And it's important to findthe right way, right approach.
I always believe that there are nobad students, there are bad teachers.
Mm-hmm.
So when a person can feel thestudent, there are no like, you
know, marker or shalon or marker.
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Mm-hmm.
You're gonna be going this way.
And that's how it works.
First.
1, 2, 3, 4. This will never work thisway for somebody, will for somebody.
No, but why do you will?
Well, you will struggle andstruggle and exhaust other people.
Mm-hmm.
No, it is individual.
So lady can feel, you know, more of,uh, the right way, the right approach.
I can feel how she's ready, howto make her ready, how to change
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her attention, move to somewhereelse so she can rest mm-hmm.
From this stress, whichis, you know, bring out.
So it's, it's like an art.
I can say it's, it's hard to explain it,but with the ladies, I believe, let me
put a sta couple of stars on my shoulders.
I believe I'm doing agreat job with the ladies.
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Yeah.
I gonna say it.
And I'm so proud of it.
Yeah.
Well, my ladies are the best.
Everybody the best, butthe ladies are number one.
Yeah.
You know, I'm just thinking that,uh, maybe ladies, uh, learn faster
because, uh, they don't have this,uh, stereotypical, uh, thoughts
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in their mind, uh, about that,you know, you have to be strong.
You have to be the fastest, right, right.
From, uh, from the first coachingsession or something like this.
And, um, maybe they just, uh,you know, learning step by step.
And, uh, I noticed, uh, the same whenI did, uh, coaching in some racing.
Uh, so the girl, uh, which I've beencoaching for some time, she's like, you
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know, listening closely and, uh, tryingto do everything step by step and also
communicate with me, uh, in a nice way.
Yes.
So it's really cool.
Yeah.
Did you notice thatladies in general, they.
Don't have an ego, which is not to youpersonally, not to, to instructor, not
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to coach a ego within, I don't know,something themself like they're hurry.
Mm-hmm.
They know they not, maybedidn't really understand.
Maybe they're not ready.
Uh, or maybe you need just one morething to try, you know, in between.
No, they jump in.
So they jump in, they can hurtthemselves, and then they get scared.
They have step back and blah, blah.
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Mm-hmm.
So the ego gonna slap ladies.
What I noticed, they quite, uh, they,they, they put it outside somewhere else.
If, if somebody has it, they putit outside on, on the training,
they're coming, you know, pure.
Mm-hmm.
So, um, that's how they focus better.
They learn better.
They, they just likemaybe one, two more times.
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More, but they will do itwith feeling, you know?
Mm-hmm.
They close feeling first.
They kind of feel better.
Yeah.
Like that.
Did you notice something like that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I noticed, uh, the same because,uh, you know, boys, they Harry so
bad sometimes and they like Exactly.
Trying to jump overtheir head and, uh, yes.
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Yeah.
As a, as a girl, you, youjust trying to, you know, do
everything step, step by step.
Of course if you, uh, in competition yousometimes, uh, trying to jump over your
head, but, uh, when you're learning,you trying to do like everything step
by step because you, uh, understandthat you, that this going to lead you
to a good result then on the track.
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Exactly.
And interesting point that whenpeople come to training, it depends
on the category and blah blah, but inanyway, the condition its own trainer.
Mm-hmm.
Like if they listen to trainer, you arenot gonna be hurt a hundred percent.
Not a hundred percent.
If you listen, you trainer,you're not gonna be hurt.
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Right?
Yeah.
And so people who is watching me, theyfor sure have some of their own thinking
who get hurt, they did not listen.
And they know about it a hundred percent.
I have one person, I, maybe hecan hear it if he is wearing it.
So he knows, uh, they like this.
Okay.
Because, because, you know, the,the trainer can, can balance
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your speed, you know everything.
You will balance that.
Even if you fall, you'renot gonna get hurt.
But sometimes you need to to fall.
And I hurt couple of times.
Oh, many times actuallywhat they said, you know.
Speed was nothing.
But actually I had bruise.
It's hurting.
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I'm like, yeah, but you're okay.
You'll sit a little bit, so you'll walk,you'll do everything what you need to do.
But yes, it's a, it's a learning process.
You can fall and you did it, butyou are, you are able, you're not.
Mm-hmm.
You know, you're able to, to benormal, don't work and do everything.
And he say, yeah, but you know,in the road I'm riding not this
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speed and I'm not wearing this fullsafety girls, you know, they're.
It's like awake, awakening for them.
Mm-hmm.
How actually feel like whenthe first time fall down on the
training base, they already feel it.
The bruise somewhere happened, youknow, usually they put on the bat on
somewhere else or somewhere there.
Some, some bruises happening from actuallylike little so slow speed, so minor speed.
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Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And it's like a big awakening for them.
It's like a brain start to work.
It's good.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
For sure.
You know, we all learning from mistakesand, uh, it, it's okay to, you know,
crash out on the racing track and,uh, do mistakes, uh, because Yes,
you're actually learning from them.
Because if you fall down Yes.
With motorcycle, then you, uh,like going to, um, tell about this.
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Yeah.
And, uh, you going to tell Yes whatwhat's mistakes and uh, then you go on
to correct them, uh, in next sessions.
Yeah, exactly.
I agree with you.
Alright, can you tell me what'syour, uh, personal bike and, uh,
like favorite, uh, to ride and why?
Okay.
Well, very nice question.
Thank you.
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Yeah.
So, uh, an all ages, an all time.
My favorite bike is BMW thousand.
Mm-hmm.
Before it was s then it later becamem So it is a classic beautiful bike.
I love it, but it's not that thebike, which is I gonna enjoy on
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the racetrack, at least in Dubai.
Alright?
Mm-hmm.
Because I, I didn't tryBMW on other trucks.
I didn't really try it.
So it's today opinion.
I might change it later.
Yeah.
But today I tried it in Dubai and I.Found out that a 600 category, which
is a racing, is a much, much, muchfaster, much better, much everything.
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Amazing.
So I segregated this way, BMW, itis my road bike because mm-hmm.
I'm not racing on the road.
It has enough glass.
Mm-hmm.
Enough power.
But you know, when not gonna use thispower, you just have it and that's it.
You know it in your pocket, you know it.
And like if you have a Ferrari, you don'thave to use the power, you know, the
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Ferrari, you just have it and that's it.
Mm-hmm.
So I, this is about, andw and it is a road bike.
So, and then I have otherbike, which is a race bike.
Mm-hmm.
Race bike between two.
I still, to be honest, don't know,I have a Yamaha and a Kawasaki
Yamaha, R six Kawasaki is a six.
Six R. Mm-hmm.
So between these two bikes, Istill don't know, but I know the
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Kawasaki, not everybody can ride.
And by the way, those who ridein Kawasaki can ride any bike.
Mm-hmm.
Those who is riding other bikes,they will be struggling or they
might say, Kawasaki, I don't like it.
You know?
So it's not easy to ride a Kawasaki,it's not easy to ride a Kawasaki.
It's a very moody, um, lady.
(41:39):
Very moody, very sensitive.
More than other bikes, I ride many bikes.
Mm-hmm.
Many, many, many, many, especially,you know, race category bikes.
Yes.
Many, many.
But the Kawasaki is very special.
So I respect a lot of people.
Everybody who rides bikes,but especially Kawasaki on the
racetrack, not on the streets.
On the streets are okay, but racestyle Kawasaki who can do this, they
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can definitely manage any motorcycle.
Mm-hmm.
So yes, it's, it's two of my racing bikes.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, this bike's been travelingKiro, I send them by plane.
Very cool.
Days was, so we racedover there and come back.
It was amazing, you know?
Yeah.
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That's the, uh, my, my bikes.
I love it so much.
The Ducati beautiful, but, well,I never had dati as my own bike.
And when I race, because there's alsolike, you know, competition between
Ducati and BMW, and it's like, uh, peopleare to, it's forever, forever conflict.
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Forever better.
Not that better.
This better.
Not that better.
So I'm on the m BMW side and Iraced, I really raced, uh, the Duc.
In, in Bahrain?
No, no, no, no, no.
Bahrain school came to Dubai.
Mm-hmm.
And they managed to officiallywith que race in, in Dubai.
So I raised the Ducati.
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Beautiful.
But m BMW
a beautiful one, but I neverown it, so maybe I need to own
it to understand it better.
That knows, you know, it's actuallyreally nice that you mentioned, uh, BMW
because, uh, uh, in people mind, they'relike, oh, BMW's, that's like cars.
But, uh, they actually makinga really nice motorcycles also.
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And, uh, they, they're beautiful.
So when I see motorcycle fromBMW on streets, I'm like, wow.
It's, it's really beautiful.
Love it.
It is very beautiful.
You see, see?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't have really ride a bike.
BMW has something, um, again,that's always BM bmw or the
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ka, the cat's beautiful.
It's, it's a very beautifulbike, but I believe BMW, it's
so much elegance, you know it.
Mm-hmm.
The brutal, brutal by, yeah.
True.
Yeah.
But BMW, it has a power in glass too.
That's it.
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Power in glass.
It has its presence.
All right.
As you, you need to, maybe youneed to try it one day, uh, just,
you know, to, to ride a motorbike.
Maybe you come to Dubai andI'm gonna put you on bike.
That sounds good.
You know, actually, uh, it's really funny.
Uh, so I did ing, I did formulas, uh,and uh, like some GT cars as well.
(44:37):
Uh, but when in childhoodI've been watching motor gp,
I'm a big fan of Valentino.
Uh, that's why Oh yeah,that's why I got number 46.
And that's why my nickname here isLove 46, uh, because I've been with
this racing number for my life.
So yeah, maybe I have to try motorcycle.
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You are gonna ride in one day.
Like one hour, one day youwill be riding motorcycle.
Yeah.
You are not gonna go like volunteer Rosie.
That's so, I did not mention that.
No, but you will be managingjust to feel, what is that?
When you're riding motorbike forthe first time and you know, it
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just listens you and you're notscared, you know what you're doing.
You can stop easily, you can, youknow a bit, you can accelerate later.
Mm-hmm.
We can agree with youlittle because speed.
Okay.
Little bit.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's just one day.
Yeah.
You know, 98% God knows that they maybe,you know, not ready, it's too much.
(45:41):
Whatever.
But 19%.
Mm-hmm.
It's gonna be one.
Yeah.
You know, I'm just, uh, I'mso afraid to ride a motorcycle
on streets, uh, because here.
I just moved to Elma.
Uh, this is my hometown andlike a lot of people, uh, got
scooters here, ball, right?
Yeah.
But you know, it's actually thetraffic and uh, whole traffic crazy.
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And I'm so afraid to ride motorcycle here.
Uh, but you know, I've never beenthinking that, hey, I can try it
on the racing track, actually.
Uh, I see.
Yeah, you all time.
You're welcome.
But, but wise by way about Alti, Iheard there's so many bikes over there.
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It's a very developed mm-hmm.
You know, culturalcountry for a motorcycle.
That's what I heard.
I never been there, but I heard, um,maybe three weeks ago or two weeks
ago, I heard something like that.
Hmm.
I'm like, really?
Okay.
Interesting.
Really.
Okay.
So, but mind wise to you.
There if you gonna try it, if youwanna search the right person, you
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know, for the first time, becausethis is the most important thing.
Mm-hmm.
It's, some people might never likeit because of the first experience
and then it's gonna be fair.
One fall on the first class is gonna be,you know, forever changing the picture.
Mm-hmm.
I always say if you first time fall, ornot even, especially at the beginning,
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first time or whatever, we don'tusually fall on first class usually.
Okay.
When we, because it's a first step back.
Mm-hmm.
You don't have anysteps and you know, yet.
And if we have a back, it's not good.
Not good.
Really.
And then if for some reason her, uh, sheor he not, did not jump on the bike again,
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the same time on the same class for anyreason, God knows, maybe a hurt, maybe a
bike broke and you don't have other one.
Mm-hmm.
God knows.
Yeah.
There can be resist like that.
Then this finishing part onthe fall is the worst part.
Whatever, because it's like aseed small al small seed Yeah.
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Of fa and it just plant it.
Mm-hmm.
So if you're not gonna jumpon it again, it's gonna grow.
It gonna grow.
And then to be big tree of fear.
Mm-hmm.
And then you have to deal with it.
You know, it's a lotof work to finish that.
But if it's the same time,fall down, drink water.
Okay.
All good.
Yellow jumping in, youjump, you jump on it.
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And then nothing we killed,it's it, you know, nothing.
We remove it.
That's the restaurant.
Yeah.
It's, it's real important to havea proper, uh, first experience.
I agree with you.
Yeah.
It's very important.
It's a fun diamond.
First, first, first, fun diamond.
Very important.
So try to search and I'm, I'm surethere are plenty of people can
help you, but, but you know, see.
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These people, like where theytrain, how they train, who they
train, who these people became.
Mm-hmm.
Like, this kind of questionsare very important.
Not only this, this, this, no.
Who did you teach?
No.
Where is these people,like how they are now?
Maybe you can contact thesepeople, listen feedback from them.
Mm-hmm.
It's important.
Yeah, that's true.
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So, uh, or come to Dubai orwait a bit, then come to Dubai.
Yeah.
Maybe.
All right.
Yeah.
I'm sure you're gonna enjoy a lot.
So as we've been, uh,talking about bikes, yeah.
So you got like road bike and you gotbikes, uh, which you riding on track
and, uh, like your, um, people, uh, who'slearning from you, also writing them.
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Uh, can you give, uh, advice tosomeone who want to transition from
street writing to track writingand uh, uh, what's actually the
first thing they should learn?
Okay.
Good question.
Well, for where to start?
So much to say the firstthing is not easy, but choice.
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Uh, again, if, if somebody from thestreets wanna try a racetrack, I would
advise to find a place near you in yourhometown or close somewhere near somebody
who can help you at least one class.
You know, go somebody to explain,because it is another world.
It's not, it's totally differentfrom whatever street can say.
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It's completely different.
So, because when you will go tothe racetrack, you might, you will
enjoy half or maybe some percent.
Mm-hmm.
But if you have something before, youknow, per private session, somebody
who can give it to you to week andgive it to radio on the plate, like.
You, then you, maybe it'sgonna be mini modelto, right?
(50:32):
Mm-hmm.
It's, you fall mini, minimodelto is the shortest way to
understand fastest, shortest, theeasiest, all of the tenons in it.
So the way I understand theracetrack, the physics, the
everything, the sitting position.
So it's, it's, it's amazing.
Even one class, one, mm-hmm.
Somebody carting, you can go onto carting.
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It's will not be expensive.
It's probably, they will rentyou, you know, the safety gears.
So you can experience that.
And then when you go to thebakery truck, you really enjoy
because they not stop you.
They will never, never, never stop.
You need to have someexperience on the streets.
You go sign, you can rent from them,a suit, a bikes, everything you
can, nobody will stop organizers.
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Usually they only stop those peoplewhose complete beginners, which
really struck for you, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Only but if you have some to experienceon streets, they never stop you.
How much will you enjoy over there?
You know, it is gonna be expensivein anyway, but how much, and
it's also one thing is enjoyment.
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Other thing is your own safety, of course.
Mm-hmm.
Maybe doesn't swap them up here.
This too.
Yeah.
The safety and then ment altogether.
But if you have a. Personalsession with someone.
Coach.
I'm not saying me.
So where you live, right.
On a big bike or a mini motto.
Yes.
It'll gonna be so easy first time,but you luck, you will understand.
(51:56):
Mm-hmm.
So with this knowledge, you go to the bigracetrack and then say, enjoy weather.
That's what I was saying.
Alright.
Don't go just blindly.
That's nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Actually, uh, you remindme that I actually try mini
motor, uh, on a car trek once.
It's been really fun.
Um, because did you know, it's, it'ssmall and, uh, it's quite easy to
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uh, like steer and do everything.
It's really nice.
You did it by yourself?
Yeah, yeah, I did it.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
Okay.
I did not know that.
Okay.
That's super amazing.
Yeah.
You know, it was real funny.
Uh, I was in a carting suit with acarting helmet and all this stuff.
So I've been, uh, doinglike a couple of laps.
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Ben May, maybe that was not goodexperience because on the bike they would
is you cannot be wearing the same suit,you know, because you need another Sure.
Yeah.
It, it's not good suit.
Alright.
Because it's leather.
That's it.
Nothing else cannot be cutting suit.
No, no, no, no.
But I'm glad you it.
Yeah.
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You know, I think it's, uh,it's good to start from scratch.
Uh, so as you said, like try minimotor and then go to the big track.
Uh, because, uh, for mealso, when you've been.
Racing on a card circuit.
Uh, then when I, uh, first timejump into open Wheeler, for
example, uh, I was in shock.
Like, you can see anything from formula.
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Uh, it's really limited viewcompared to, uh, to the cart.
And, uh, you, you really need time toget used to the big track because it's
Of course, of course it's different.
Yeah, of course, of course.
But it's like simulator live simulator.
You from, from carting,you go to to, to what?
To the next story.
I What about cars?
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Not so much educated, but I mean, youhave a carting then after carting,
there is something upgraded, right?
Yeah.
Some cars.
Which one?
Then?
And then, then.
So it's, it's like transitioning you, youwill be understanding what you're doing.
You'll have apex, you know,middle corner exit, I dunno.
Entry, middle corner, exit.
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Apex is everything like, you know, line.
It's important where you can getit, you'll get it the fastest
way of somewhere on carting.
That's the fastest way shortcut.
Course.
Yeah, no, if you, if you got a reallygood, uh, base, uh, like, uh, it,
it's going to lead you to like moreexperience and, uh, you're going
to learn easier, in easier way.
Um, mm-hmm.
So last one.
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Exactly.
Uh, let's talk about your future.
Um, so what's your plans?
Uh, what are you planning forthis year and for upcoming years?
Also, uh, are you goingto stay in coaching?
Are you going to stay in Dubai or areyou maybe moving to other countries?
Amazing question.
Well, it is so much amazing becauseI am really little, little bit.
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Okay.
I'm gonna say somesecrets, but not too much.
Okay.
Alright.
Okay.
Not too much.
Well, of course, here is Dubai.
I'm, I'm coming back to Dubai soon.
Basically.
Uh, a lot to do with their, uh,to, we have a lot of work with the
students, those who unfinished.
Mm-hmm.
(55:05):
You know, work.
We have unfinished work and wehave, we didn't start yet work.
We have a lot of work.
So, uh, also the project of, um, of ourways I could have say yeah, but which
has always been struggle in Dubai.
I, in, I hope it'll be, youknow, a successful, I general
hope it'll work, to be honest.
(55:26):
Mm-hmm.
I'm trying something.
If it'll work, I gainhope with God help then.
We'll need to do another podcast with you.
Alright.
If it'll work.
Okay.
We'll, not to say, but if not,I think it'll be the same.
And I'm kind of, I'llsay one thing in Russian.
(55:47):
Yes.
Creator.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So to try to translate it inEnglish, like if you want to, um,
you know, entertain or make laugh,uh, God, tell him about your plan.
Yeah.
So I, lately, lately I do have adirection, I do have a plan, but I'll
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always keep a big gap Some place.
I, I don't wanna say big or small, Iwill keep place for gut interference
because whenever he knows, it'llbe always better than ever.
I can imagine.
You know?
Mm-hmm.
That's it.
So I, I open this door complete.
Yes.
The rest, we're gonna justwork, teach people safe lives,
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you know, inspire, make dreams.
True again, bikes.
Nothing else.
I don't see myself in painting,however, I'm a tattoo artist.
But so far this became for me,more, far, more, far, more far.
I'm sold with bikes, bike bikes.
Yes.
And also what I see here in Russia,um, currently in Cdar, a lot of
(56:54):
bikes, PE people are unfortunatelya lot of situations not good here.
Not really nice to, to mention.
I feel that they also need some help.
Mm-hmm.
So I maybe will see how can Imake it in those places one year.
Mm-hmm.
And one there.
Right.
So you got a good plan.
That's a plan.
Yeah, that's a plan.
You know, I really like, uh, to go with.
(57:14):
You got, you got a plan.
Uh, but you kind of go in with the flow.
So if you mm-hmm.
Get some like side opportunities,you're like, Hey, maybe I can try this.
Yeah, why not?
So it's, it's not in my plan, but why not?
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's real nice.
Yeah.
Just to be it, it's a fate.
I say good faith, believe in a good thing.
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Open your heart.
When it's open, the right, theright thing will just reach you.
You, it's like opening, not the heart.
Open your eyes.
You see, you enter.
That's it.
The right, the right things.
Good people and everything.
Yeah.
I became lately so much con, connectedto God, connected to something.
(57:58):
You know that one?
Yeah.
Alright.
Just life.
So thank you so much for being here.
It was a pleasure to talk with you.
It's really.
It's really goodexperience for me as well.
So now I'm going to thank you so much.
Maybe, uh, fly to Dubai anduh, learn some motorcycle.
(58:19):
Please come.
You'll enjoy, you'll have a home to stay.
You'll have a room to sleep.
You'll have food to eat.
You have everything just come.
That's really nice.
Let's record.
Don't worry.
You can come with your husband.
Yes, I know that's most important.
That's nice.
So once again, thank youso much for your time.
Uh, it was a pleasurefor me to talk with you.
(58:40):
Uh, once again guys, thankyou so much for another one.
Need talk.
I ho I, I hope peopleenjoy through our talk.
Yeah.
Too, but sure.
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Welcome everyone to New Talks.
Uh, happy to see everybody here today.
We got
everybody's, hello, hello, hello, hello.
Um, so she is a motorcyclecoach and a great person also.
We get to know her today.
Um, so, uh, you could again, and let'sstart from, uh, you, you've been born in
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Russia and uh, then you moved to Dubai.
Yeah.
Like, uh, 14 years ago.
So, uh, can you tell me what,uh, brought you there originally?
Well, it is a very nice, and it's aspecial story always for me, and it
will be this personal story becauseit has something with, uh, law of
Abstraction and I watched movie A Secret.
(01:36):
Yeah.
It's material beginning.
I know.
Yeah.
So.
Just, it's been like those days,the secret movie wasn't, um, like
no free like this on YouTube.
You can find everywhere those days, atleast to me, maybe I never saw before.
And I saw one successful mangive it to a friend of mine,
one like disk, really disk.
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And he said, watch it anddo not let see no one.
Mm-hmm.
And of course there is nothingmore important being that time than
for me to reach that, that disc.
Mm-hmm.
I had to see one thereand I was definitely, yes.
And I was young.
I was like, I think 20,maybe 20 or 21 years old.
(02:18):
Mm-hmm.
Not even 21 before 21.
So, and then I made it.
So I was just moving like there is like,you know, like you can't hear nothing.
You don't sell nothing.
You just a hundred percent focus.
And well, it's similar, like ifyou're gonna, if you're racing,
who knows who raised the know.
Mm-hmm.
So you remove everythingelse, you have one thing.
(02:39):
So I watch this movie the same and fromthat days I used these instruments and
one time I was driving in my countryin Russia, I was driving a car and
I hit the old and this God its nameblah, you know, the holes, some bad
condition road is Russian style.
(03:00):
Mm-hmm.
So I look at it and I said, Isaid I wish to be in Theam Road
when there is nothing and that beamazing, like so flat and so nice.
And I put it in my heart and that feeling.
And then I put my eyes up and itwas a stein board, like, you know,
(03:21):
putting indicators like mm-hmm.
For dry.
And I look at it, it was kind of rusted.
And I look and I said, look at that.
How look angry that I wanna seean nice, beautiful signboard.
And even if I don't know what writtenthere, let me not even understand
what's there, but I want to see that.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and then it was cold.
(03:42):
It's three in one, like, youknow, three in one, I'm cold.
I'm like, it's too much cold.
You know, I wanna be somewherewhere no winter existing really.
Mm-hmm.
And three things.
I was having that special feeling.
And I do have a timeto time and I love it.
It's my favorite.
So some mystical happened that timeand everything start to change.
(04:06):
My life just put me in onedirection, which is Dubai.
And I was resisting.
Mm-hmm.
Literally resisting.
I'm like, Dubai, no way.
What I gonna do there?
I don't speak English.
I know nobody there.
Nothing.
And I heard, you know, things about it.
It's not like I'm notgonna put myself there.
Mm-hmm.
Because that's what Iheard sometimes before.
(04:27):
And I'm like, no way.
But live, play.
A very nice joke.
And it was a one way ticket.
I will not go to, to reallydeep explanation, just
no problem after problem.
It's, it's like, it's like from moviesto be honest, it's another story.
Maybe one day again shared.
That's special.
Special time.
Probably not, not today.
So, and I had really no way tostay in Russia and I had to go
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somewhere and not come back.
And guess what?
It's been Dubai.
I came to Dubai.
I look man.
Soundboards.
Beautiful.
I sold them somewhere.
Well, it's in my head, the road.
Amazing.
Wow.
And guess what?
There is no winter.
Mm-hmm.
Imagine.
Yeah.
(05:11):
Other story.
Yeah.
That's really nice story about this.
So you actually like, resistyour dream and uh, then move, uh,
to your, your dream, uh, city.
That's really cool.
Um, how Dubai change, uh, like yourview on motorsports and uh, how is it
compared to what you had in Russia?
(05:33):
And I, I know that you also race inEurope and uh, so tell me more about this.
Alright, nice question.
Well, in Russia, I was a car lover.
I knew nothing about motorcycle.
Nothing.
Not at all.
So in Dubai, even not too soon,it's been like, I think about maybe
(05:55):
five, four years I was in Dubai.
I was doing war, then I did business.
And then out nowhere my friendcome up with a story like Katrina.
Let's do, she was partner, um,with the beer salon hair before.
Uh, so I said, let's domotorcycle, you know, journey.
We go to America and we are gonnaride this road amazing over there.
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I'm like, what an idea.
What an idea.
It's so amazing idea.
It wasn't mine.
I'm like, yeah, okay.
What's the plan?
And she was like a mainhit, you know, in plants.
Okay.
And so she said, very easy.
We are gonna make a license.
Okay.
I'm like, okay.
She was much biggerthan me, very big lady.
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So she was about a hundred plus kilograms.
I'm like, all right, I don't know howshe gonna do it, but I will do it.
Okay.
So
I'm doing it.
So I knew nothing about it.
I just went there.
How very Well, I bit early than that.
I had bad days and I was listening somevideos, which is might help me to go
(07:02):
out from my mood, which is, was so down.
And the video said you take alist, uh, like a paper and pen
and write down a hundred points.
Mm-hmm What you wanna do,but don't think about it.
And I'm like, alright.
So I did it.
It's been maybe months backthen I moved, moved my house.
Nothing.
(07:22):
But when we start, this lady and me, wedid driving license for a motorcycle.
I was knew, I knew nothing.
I crashed.
First day, went to the wall, nothing.
I knew absolutely it.
Then I come back home, I found thispaper and it's written on the middle,
written, I wanna ride motorcycleand I wanna do extreme sport.
(07:42):
Mm-hmm.
I knew nothing about it.
I was so sure.
Ideas or it's not mine,you know, so it's me there.
That's how magic happened, basically.
Mm-hmm.
So it's been somewhere inside me, butI knew probably nothing subconsciously.
So that's why when you writedown something fast, you don't
analyze, you don't put a border,which is our head sometimes.
Mm-hmm.
Very often you, you just, you know,put both fast, fast, fast, fast.
(08:05):
And the subconscious will be, youknow, open up and it'll be speaking
things, which is, you don't know.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
That's what happen.
Interesting.
So it's probably been way likefrom that I believe it's been
from God, it's the destiny.
And that's came a time.
Mm-hmm.
That's it.
And I need a license.
So I cannot say how I knewit before Russia, because I
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knew it from Dubai, but from.
Then I'm training.
I train every day, man, every day.
Then I became ready for some reason,for a challenge, for a championship.
Mm-hmm.
Then I start to race, and thenI discover Europe, main places
in Europe and then Russia.
(08:48):
So I saw it little bit later.
Mm-hmm.
I can compare, but, but it's notlike people might expect, you know?
Yeah.
So it was amazing.
Yes.
It's beautiful.
Mm-hmm.
But, but mobile sports Exactly.
Particularly bikes is on the back.
Mm-hmm.
Where in the back, yes.
Where everywhere.
Probably first or many, many Where?
(09:10):
Dubai.
And it's my favorite country.
I do it.
Beautiful country everywhere, leading,but for some reason, motorcycle,
particularly in Dubai, is notat the first, it is not leading.
Mm-hmm.
Not at all.
Yeah.
We have Qatar, in Qatar, we havemotor gp, um, like 35 racetrack.
(09:30):
Mm-hmm.
If, let's say from GCC countries, yes.
But in Dubai, we don't have a truck,which is certified for auto GP
yet, but I believe we will do it.
Yeah.
I believe, yeah.
That, that's really interesting so far.
Uh, because, uh, you, you know,in my, in my point of view, I
see that Dubai is really a gooddevelopment in developing, uh, racing.
(09:51):
Uh, so here's a lot of, uh, marathonslike, uh, long endurance races, uh, with
GT cars and uh, something like this.
Yep.
So I felt that maybe, uh, motorsport also, um, like not on
the back as you said, um, but Ihope it's going to develop, uh.
With some time because if, uh, peoplegetting into it, more people, um, like
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getting into the sports and it's goingto grow anyway, I'm sure it'll be a right
time for that and I will do it properly.
Mm-hmm.
I'm sure however, just there are alittle bit gap, I believe where is a
people not obeying enough regime ofsafe riding, uh, style here by, in the
(10:40):
motorcycle and is developing, uh, youknow, likely not pleasant opinion and in
generally, uh, motorcycle biking style.
Mm-hmm.
In general, if you say I'mriding motorcycle over there is.
People are paying it.
Yes, that's true.
Mm-hmm.
It's maybe being so far, many,most of the countries, I believe,
(11:03):
but yeah, it's, I have to say it,we, we, we need a proper place.
So proper, we need a bit of support thatcould have saved from the government.
Mm-hmm.
It's, it's, honestly, it's very hard.
I am a motorcycle coach today.
I'm training people.
I believe I'm touching peoplelives and, you know, helping them.
(11:23):
Mm-hmm.
For some reason, PE people needalways, not just like that.
It's always, people need each other,so, and I believe I, I'm kind of
that bridge from, you know, being abridge from human to what they need.
Mm-hmm.
Like, like that.
Yeah.
From the help or maybefulfilling their dreams.
Sometimes it's a safety, whatever.
(11:43):
So it's, it's a bit difficult for me to,um, how to say, to, to, to grow, let's
say, to touch more, uh, souls and hearts.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, by doing it pretty so much alone.
I do have a lot of partners, companieswith who we do collaboration mm-hmm.
Support each other.
Mm-hmm.
But again, it's on the groundfloor, it's not on government level.
(12:07):
Yep.
So, yeah.
That, that's the difficulty.
Land is a bit expensive and, youknow, this is the main thing so far.
Mm-hmm.
So far.
The rest is, everything is, uh, amazing.
But I never stop.
It's been from 2020, no,2021 actually to today.
It's a full-time coach.
Mm-hmm.
No part-time, nothing.
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It's a completely full-time coach.
Even summer today, my firstsummer, I'm out of Dubai, but I
never stopped before, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Also, I know that, that you race, uh,like in many, uh, countries, and, uh,
can you tell me which podium, uh, finishfelt the most special to you and why?
(12:50):
And, and then we'll move toactually to coaching because it's
really interesting also how youswitch from racing to coaching.
Coaching.
Sure.
Well, yes, it's a, it's a verynice special to me, um, event.
I can say one of them.
It's first of course, right?
Mm-hmm.
First race, one of them.
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But something else happenedin Italy in general, and the
feeling I've been searching.
Again and again, and it's never come back.
I found out over there a feelingcame to me during the race, and
it's never come back after that.
Imagine what happened.
(13:31):
I'll tell you, I didn'tshare, by the way, this story.
Mm-hmm.
Like this, like in public.
I never did it before.
I think so.
Forgive me people if I forgetsomething, but I don't really remember.
I shared That's okay.
But I did.
But I did share peoplelike this face to face.
Yes.
Uh, a feeling is veryinteresting, like being from so
(13:52):
stressed, I felt I'm not ready.
And I also felt maybe Iwill, I will back off.
Imagine.
Yeah.
I had that feeling.
So maybe not today, you know, who cares?
But then I imagine like,all right, imagine Katrina.
I talk to myself like that.
Imagine if you did not do itpast time and then you look back
(14:13):
and you nothing you can change.
Mm-hmm.
How would you feel about it?
And I'm like, no way.
No way.
No, no, no way.
And I did, so I raced, of course Ijumped to the race after this thinking.
Mm-hmm.
So, and then what happened whileI'm racing, it's like, um, we have
first corner and that corner, andthat then rabata this corner I know.
Later.
And another story, I'll tell you why.
(14:34):
Anyway, so, so what happens is all of asudden motorcycle became all wait list.
Mm-hmm.
I could, it's all, it's in any way.
Very light.
Uh, it's very hard, very heavy.
And the breaking guess.
But on, on from Januarythe ride, it's light.
Yeah.
So far.
If you, of course, but all ofa sudden it's a new feeling.
(14:57):
It's light in a way that itis floating above the ground.
That is completely like usuallyI feel every grip, I feel,
every angle, even every stone.
Mm-hmm.
But this time, nothing like that.
This time there is no grip at all.
I don't feel touch.
So, and it is above the racetrack?
(15:18):
Mm-hmm.
Maybe two meters or two and ahalf meters if I have to say it.
So it's literally up.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
It's the first thing.
And then what happened?
The sound in my headdisappeared completely.
Plan in my head disappeared.
Even I didn't remember.
Next will be right or left nothing.
Even the gear whichgear, nothing which lap.
(15:41):
Mm-hmm.
Completely nothing.
So that's not normal,you know, for racing.
You, you are still strategic.
So focused.
But I was focused but nothing.
So I only see myself pastand it is something else.
God knows what and don't know what.
So all of these qualities,even I missed the code.
Like I missed the gearbecause I'm like, oh really?
(16:03):
This will be right now.
Okay, so gear should bego up, like go down sheet.
Mm-hmm.
And raising its opposite.
And I managed to do it andcover the mistakes, everything.
And guess what, when I finished therace, I was like the biggest, my
personal lap time ever, I did it.
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
(16:23):
So I was the path that I couldbelieve that time to my time.
Yeah.
Not over, not overall.
So.
It was a state of mind, unbelievable.
And I asked so many riders, guys,did you have anything like that?
What, what?
What I ask all riders experience.
Like many people, I asknobody, nobody find this.
And they said, yes.
(16:44):
I felt every stone.
It's not about every stone,it's about there enough stone.
It's about your two, almostthree meters up, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Stone, nothing.
So I thought, unfortunately Ididn't find, um, uh, nobody who,
who experience same till day to day.
Maybe somebody from people whowas watching today, us, maybe they
(17:05):
command somewhere, somebody who hadthe same, I would literally wanna
talk to this person, connect, andwe know we have things to discuss.
Yeah.
Wow, that's really magicalstory about your race.
And, uh, it is.
Yeah.
That's why it's really special for you.
So I feel you about this.
It's, um, yeah.
(17:25):
You know what, I, Iwant podium by the way.
Yeah.
If I was there that day, I had topoint the podium, I have to mention.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I still, you know, stillremember how I won, uh, one of
the first races in, in cars.
Uh, I remember a guy, uh, beencrying after this, uh, because
he, he won the championship.
(17:47):
Uh, but there was like, uh, thespecial event, uh, in the end
of the season and I won this.
And, uh, he's been crying.
Oh.
And then, yeah, I was like nine yearsold, 10 years old, something like this.
It's happy and sad, you know?
Yeah.
Happy because it's very happy.
Of course.
And sad because, you know,someone was crying, but it's
(18:09):
what Well, I'm proud of you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Uh, so let's move how you, uh, like, uh,change from, uh, being in racing, uh,
racing motorcycles to actually coaching.
So what lead you to dothis decision in your life?
Okay, this time will be,no, it'll be really normal.
(18:30):
Oh, alright.
Very normal story.
Okay.
Uh, it was a COVID,very simple COVID time.
My, my last race I was racing, uh,no, no, pretty last, but the last one.
Complete lost.
I had to pull myself out becausewe couldn't, we had to say our.
(18:52):
Supporters, people who comes fans,we have to tell them you cannot come.
And it was my principle, maybe likeI, I, I lost the position overall.
Oh no, the, the final championship.
I moved to be third, but I was supposed tobe second or overall it was really, like,
for me, achievement to be second is hard,to be honest, because the only boys were
(19:16):
there and they're all mostly experienced.
I was the only lady to be second or it's,it's, it's a big thing to be honest.
And I had to make a decision thatI cannot come and tell guys, do not
come, you know, don't come here.
You'll be knocking the doors, butno, no security, you cannot come.
Mm-hmm.
So for me it was a kind of.
(19:36):
You know, human being and principle.
Maybe some people can tell me now,you know, it's a sport and you have
to go on people heads or whatever.
So you're not a good sportsman.
Maybe, you know, maybe.
But for me it was more, more of humanityand respect people who really, you know.
Mm-hmm.
And I did so much show that it'slast race, you know, there's so many
people wanted to come read so many.
(19:58):
And I just couldn't do that.
And I pulled myself out last raceand I lost the position became
third automatically, and thenCOVID appeared a hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
And well, no sponsorships, nothing.
I had to survive.
I found a job, yes.
I was sales.
Later on, I said, look what I gonnado now We are living in Dubai.
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I have to work because not,no event is gonna happen.
Mm-hmm.
And during the COVID, I joined VMW.
Uh, so I was sales workthere for a year almost.
And then.
Things like maybe me.
Maybe what?
It was just not for me.
I think so.
Maybe God knows better why I thinkit's a God plan still because
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everything was so much unfair to me.
What happened as well, thatjob, I'm like, God, why think
that on unfair, you know, to me.
So, but then, so I resignedfrom them and I sat down and
I said, what I gonna do now?
You know, and I was so much tiredto worry the cha like, you know,
the payments here and there, whatI gonna do, how I gonna manage now?
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And I do allow bikes here, but what,how can I make living out of this?
And.
Some of my friends call and say,Katrina, you know, my friend need help.
Could you help, please?
I'm like, look, okay, I'm available.
I'm not working.
You know?
Mm-hmm.
Let's try it.
So we went to the parking and Isaw what I just, you know, few
touches, ta, ta, ta explained.
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Mm-hmm.
I saw Miracle.
I saw really miracle,unbelievable results.
And I'm like, how that possible?
I put my knee down one and a halfmonths, this person put it in one hour.
How that possible?
Mm-hmm.
You know, it was like a training for me.
It was a really like magic.
And he was really happy.
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And, and then another person,another person, and all things felt
by itself that, all right, mm-hmm.
I'm gonna coach and I'mgonna do this full time.
And well, it's, people are happy.
I'm doing the right thing.
I'm not living only for myself.
I do something good in this life.
That's what I feel.
And of course, it's, it's also rewarding.
Yeah.
So that's the story, the part, yeah.
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That, that's true.
You know, during COVID, I think alot of people changed their, uh,
direction of the life, uh, really.
Mm-hmm.
Like, uh, in the, uh, like,uh, the, in, in the hard way.
Uh, so I changed it too.
Uh, I've been into racing andthen unfortunately in 2000, uh,
15, so I've been into program.
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We had plans, you know, till the formalone in all the series, uh mm-hmm.
Free in Spain.
Uh, but unfortunately Asna Motor Sports,uh, the team which, uh, support me in
this, uh, they just, uh, decided toshut down the program in Kazakhstan.
And, uh, then I've been, youknow, working in some racing, uh,
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club in, in Moscow, and I mm-hmm.
Moved here from El Matty.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, and you know, I just, I started fromscratch, like you said, about motorcycles,
so I just knew nothing in PCs, in someracing hardware and all the stuff.
So I started to learn, uh, from scratch.
Uh, also coach people, so.
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From time to time, uh, in summer racing,uh, and then, uh, when COVID hits.
So I've lost my job in Moscow, uh, becauseall the malls just shut down completely.
Yeah.
And, uh, we, with my husband decidedthat, Hey, let's try like streaming.
Let's try to jump in.
And I started to stream and, uh, yeah, forfive years already, a full-time streamer.
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Amazing.
Amazing.
And doing this.
And it's, it's really rewardingbecause, you know, it's really
cool that you, uh, can see people,they coming to watch your race.
You can communicate with them.
It's really cool.
So yes, actually the sameas you said about coaching.
Uh, it's, it's really nice toinspire people, uh, because
some people come exactly to.
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Like, Hey, what, what to get to startwith, uh, some racing, um, how to start.
And you, you tell people aboutthis and then they, uh, coming to,
to you after months and they'relike, Hey, I bought the new wheel.
Hey, I just jump in.
I'm having a lot of fun.
Thank, thank you so much.
Yeah, it's it's really cool.
Exactly.
Um, well, my favorite feedbacks whenI say I'm receiving a phone call
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or a message and you know, I hearTrina, you know what happened, you
know, when they start like this, I'mlike, oh, wow, it's this message.
Probably gonna laugh.
I put a star on them andWhatsApp to see them, you know,
forever, but I have bad mood.
I'm gonna listen.
And they said, you know, Katrina,I, that corner, if you know, I did
what you tell me, that was amazing.
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Or another thing can be, you know,Katrina today, thanks God, you, you know,
I get saved because we, you know, did.
Mm-hmm.
1, 2, 3, 4. These moments, it'sfor me, everything like I feel Yes.
You know, so I'm living for true,like I'm doing the right thing.
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I love what I do and I wanna eat more.
I wanna know how to come the planet.
Uh, yeah, like that.
Yeah.
It's real cool.
You know, when you inspire people, whenyou, uh, like can give advice, which going
to make their life safer and, uh, they'regoing to enjoy like riding more motorcycle
or being in some racing and enjoy it more.
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So it's really cool.
Correct.
Correct, correct.
Agree with you.
Uh, can you tell me aboutyour tr uh, training program?
So, um, what's different?
Uh, because you, you got different people.
Yeah.
Uh, like beginners.
You got, uh, I think kids also, uh,and, uh, like professional dri uh,
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professional riders, uh, as well.
So can you tell me about, uh, what'sthe difference between their programs,
uh, and, uh, like how you train them?
Okay.
Well, you write Absolutely.
We have kids.
Before I was just lawn and Igot a team, so I speak, we okay.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Okay.
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Uh, yeah.
So now some are, we are traveling hereand there, but of course we have also, uh.
So trainers and so wait.
We have kids.
They're so amazing and cute.
The program I, I, I adore to train kids.
Uh, it's very specialfor me for some reason.
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So it's cute bikes.
The, everything is so cuteand amazing, but it's a lot of
responsibilities, of course.
And I always said to trainon one kid, it's like, so.
Slash three adults.
Mm-hmm.
Like be, maybe, maybe for me atleast, you know, because I put
everything in it, the, the prediction,the i, i just in them, you know?
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Mm-hmm.
A hundred percent.
Mm-hmm.
It's, it's not easy.
Not at all.
But, uh, parallel.
Anyway, so, so kids, uh, we havefemale, uh, programs because also
we're in, you know, Muslim country.
Mm-hmm.
The, it's a cultural, yeah.
So we, I, this time I can say I mm-hmm.
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Because other trainers are men, soI can, I, I have a lot of ladies.
Yes.
It's make things are much morecomfortable for many ladies.
Mm-hmm.
When you know, a lady to late,two lady, and especially for their
husbands, it is amazing, comfortable.
Mm-hmm.
So yeah, ladies, then we have a normalgeneral beginners and advance, and we
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have also, not just advance, we do have.
Extreme classes, but I'mnot really advertising this.
Mm-hmm.
Because I'm more into safe safety,but it's only for those people
who gonna do this in any way.
Mm-hmm.
So I'm never pronouncing this whole.
Doing this in any way.
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But after a long time saying,I always put them, come on.
I do succeed in 90%, by the way.
90% by talking.
I said, look, why do you need a wheelie?
You know the wheelie?
Yeah, I know.
It's cool.
But come on, you know, if youare gonna do a leaning corners,
you'll, you know, these things are.
Something really needed.
And it is not, you're gonna bepunished by law because you're
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gonna do things like mm-hmm.
You know, wheelies, it's, it'sprohibited in the streets.
Come on.
And it is a lot risky.
For what?
For a couple of pictures?
No, you, no.
It's so much risk.
No need.
Okay.
No need.
So, but 10% I'm losing it.
Yeah, sometimes.
But mainly 90% people follow adviceand when they do truck riding, it's
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like, you, it is very good for your.
In general, be a good rider.
It does not mean you're gonna goon the streets, put a knee down.
It's a, it's a rule number one.
We are not doing this on the streets.
Never, never, never, never, ever.
We not do this, but we'regonna go and see the limits.
So we wanna put the knee downbecause we wanna see a limit, what
gonna happen in this situation.
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Mm-hmm.
And we're gonna do it togetherin the full safety gears.
We're gonna be in proper place and we'regonna be using right tools for that.
Not huge things to discoverand hurt themselves.
Yeah.
Uh, so, so far it's, it's a, the training.
I don't know.
Lately we have a lot new riders.
Some people said, Katrinabeen, I'm finally ready.
I'm following you for threeyears, you know, on my page, three
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years and something happened.
Now I'm ready.
So,
so, but, and like that and gifts also.
Somebody they said, all right, Idon't know what to give to now let's
say that person are gonna purchase,I don't know, five, 10 classes.
Somebody do one only to try.
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Uh, yeah.
This program as well also very useful.
It's really nice, uh, that you, forsafety side of course, uh, because you
know so many writers, especially onstreets, they sometimes doing some crazy
stuff, uh, which is dangerous for themand also for other people around them.
Like who also in motor, onmotorcycles or either in the car.
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Um, so I think you're doingreally good, uh, thing for.
Everybody, uh, you know, uh, likecoaching the safety and, uh, that
actually racing should happen onlyon racing track and, uh, exactly.
Yeah.
This is, uh, what I've been, uh,telling to people as well, uh, because
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it's, it's really funny, uh, whenyou in racing, uh, here's some weird
questions, um, by people who has been,uh, like interviewing you and they
like, Hey, do, do you race on streets?
I'm like, no, I'm, I'm for safety.
Come on.
I'm just, uh, yeah.
You know, I'm, come on.
If I in a car, I'm trying to be safe,safe for everybody and I respect rules
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and uh, everything and, uh, yeah, exactly.
Racing should happen only onracing track because we got like
safety zones, uh, where you canfall and not get any injuries.
And, uh, also that's.
Like the track to try,uh, different things.
Exactly, yeah.
It's real, really good.
It's like, it's like a ren to askRen for example, or Mc Tyson, like,
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are you fighting on the streets?
Yeah, true.
Can you imagine these guys,they will go and, you know,
fight on the streets with who?
Are you serious?
No.
No, no, man.
I'm not gonna do that.
No.
Can you tell me a bit more,uh, about how is it for you
to be a coach for, for girls?
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Uh, because I think it's a bit different.
Yeah.
And, um, in some racing, forexample, I found that, uh, for
girls it's, uh, a little bit easierto, uh, like communicate with me.
So I've been coaching, uh, some girls,uh, who are also streamers and they've
been really comfortable with me.
And, uh, then tell me about this and.
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So, how's it for you?
And, uh mm-hmm.
Do you think that maybe youcan build a maybe female, uh,
academia or something like this?
All right.
Well, um, female academia, I didn't,I would correct you a little bit.
Mm-hmm.
It is like female racing team.
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Female racing team.
I had it and planned then thingsare, I was too busy in work.
It just did not happen.
But it's still in my mindjust a female racing team.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But academic can, can't stop people,you know, they want, they wanna learn.
Yeah.
You're a man.
Not come.
No, it's not working.
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Yeah.
But it's, I adore my ladies and what.
I look, it's just general.
It's not to hurt a man feeling, let'ssay this way or so, but ladies, what
they do, how fast they learn mm-hmm.
They're like, statistically, I cannotsay a hundred percent on everybody,
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but it's not a number of, um, like aminimum, uh, statistically basically.
Mm-hmm.
That's what I wanna say.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
So sometimes it's easier to saysome, some things like that.
So statistically, ladiesare learning faster.
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Mm-hmm.
That's what I can ask, say.
And it's important to findthe right way, right approach.
I always believe that there are nobad students, there are bad teachers.
Mm-hmm.
So when a person can feel thestudent, there are no like, you
know, marker or shalon or marker.
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Mm-hmm.
You're gonna be going this way.
And that's how it works.
First.
1, 2, 3, 4. This will never work thisway for somebody, will for somebody.
No, but why do you will?
Well, you will struggle andstruggle and exhaust other people.
Mm-hmm.
No, it is individual.
So lady can feel, you know, more of,uh, the right way, the right approach.
I can feel how she's ready, howto make her ready, how to change
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her attention, move to somewhereelse so she can rest mm-hmm.
From this stress, whichis, you know, bring out.
So it's, it's like an art.
I can say it's, it's hard to explain it,but with the ladies, I believe, let me
put a sta couple of stars on my shoulders.
I believe I'm doing agreat job with the ladies.
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Yeah.
I gonna say it.
And I'm so proud of it.
Yeah.
Well, my ladies are the best.
Everybody the best, butthe ladies are number one.
Yeah.
You know, I'm just thinking that,uh, maybe ladies, uh, learn faster
because, uh, they don't have this,uh, stereotypical, uh, thoughts
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in their mind, uh, about that,you know, you have to be strong.
You have to be the fastest, right, right.
From, uh, from the first coachingsession or something like this.
And, um, maybe they just, uh,you know, learning step by step.
And, uh, I noticed, uh, the same whenI did, uh, coaching in some racing.
Uh, so the girl, uh, which I've beencoaching for some time, she's like, you
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know, listening closely and, uh, tryingto do everything step by step and also
communicate with me, uh, in a nice way.
Yes.
So it's really cool.
Yeah.
Did you notice thatladies in general, they.
Don't have an ego, which is not to youpersonally, not to, to instructor, not
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to coach a ego within, I don't know,something themself like they're hurry.
Mm-hmm.
They know they not, maybedidn't really understand.
Maybe they're not ready.
Uh, or maybe you need just one morething to try, you know, in between.
No, they jump in.
So they jump in, they can hurtthemselves, and then they get scared.
They have step back and blah, blah.
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Mm-hmm.
So the ego gonna slap ladies.
What I noticed, they quite, uh, they,they, they put it outside somewhere else.
If, if somebody has it, they putit outside on, on the training,
they're coming, you know, pure.
Mm-hmm.
So, um, that's how they focus better.
They learn better.
They, they just likemaybe one, two more times.
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More, but they will do itwith feeling, you know?
Mm-hmm.
They close feeling first.
They kind of feel better.
Yeah.
Like that.
Did you notice something like that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I noticed, uh, the same because,uh, you know, boys, they Harry so
bad sometimes and they like Exactly.
Trying to jump overtheir head and, uh, yes.
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Yeah.
As a, as a girl, you, youjust trying to, you know, do
everything step, step by step.
Of course if you, uh, in competition yousometimes, uh, trying to jump over your
head, but, uh, when you're learning,you trying to do like everything step
by step because you, uh, understandthat you, that this going to lead you
to a good result then on the track.
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Exactly.
And interesting point that whenpeople come to training, it depends
on the category and blah blah, but inanyway, the condition its own trainer.
Mm-hmm.
Like if they listen to trainer, you arenot gonna be hurt a hundred percent.
Not a hundred percent.
If you listen, you trainer,you're not gonna be hurt.
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Right?
Yeah.
And so people who is watching me, theyfor sure have some of their own thinking
who get hurt, they did not listen.
And they know about it a hundred percent.
I have one person, I, maybe hecan hear it if he is wearing it.
So he knows, uh, they like this.
Okay.
Because, because, you know, the,the trainer can, can balance
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your speed, you know everything.
You will balance that.
Even if you fall, you'renot gonna get hurt.
But sometimes you need to to fall.
And I hurt couple of times.
Oh, many times actuallywhat they said, you know.
Speed was nothing.
But actually I had bruise.
It's hurting.
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I'm like, yeah, but you're okay.
You'll sit a little bit, so you'll walk,you'll do everything what you need to do.
But yes, it's a, it's a learning process.
You can fall and you did it, butyou are, you are able, you're not.
Mm-hmm.
You know, you're able to, to benormal, don't work and do everything.
And he say, yeah, but you know,in the road I'm riding not this
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speed and I'm not wearing this fullsafety girls, you know, they're.
It's like awake, awakening for them.
Mm-hmm.
How actually feel like whenthe first time fall down on the
training base, they already feel it.
The bruise somewhere happened, youknow, usually they put on the bat on
somewhere else or somewhere there.
Some, some bruises happening from actuallylike little so slow speed, so minor speed.
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Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And it's like a big awakening for them.
It's like a brain start to work.
It's good.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
For sure.
You know, we all learning from mistakesand, uh, it, it's okay to, you know,
crash out on the racing track and,uh, do mistakes, uh, because Yes,
you're actually learning from them.
Because if you fall down Yes.
With motorcycle, then you, uh,like going to, um, tell about this.
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Yeah.
And, uh, you going to tell Yes whatwhat's mistakes and uh, then you go on
to correct them, uh, in next sessions.
Yeah, exactly.
I agree with you.
Alright, can you tell me what'syour, uh, personal bike and, uh,
like favorite, uh, to ride and why?
Okay.
Well, very nice question.
Thank you.
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Yeah.
So, uh, an all ages, an all time.
My favorite bike is BMW thousand.
Mm-hmm.
Before it was s then it later becamem So it is a classic beautiful bike.
I love it, but it's not that thebike, which is I gonna enjoy on
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the racetrack, at least in Dubai.
Alright?
Mm-hmm.
Because I, I didn't tryBMW on other trucks.
I didn't really try it.
So it's today opinion.
I might change it later.
Yeah.
But today I tried it in Dubai and I.Found out that a 600 category, which
is a racing, is a much, much, muchfaster, much better, much everything.
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Amazing.
So I segregated this way, BMW, itis my road bike because mm-hmm.
I'm not racing on the road.
It has enough glass.
Mm-hmm.
Enough power.
But you know, when not gonna use thispower, you just have it and that's it.
You know it in your pocket, you know it.
And like if you have a Ferrari, you don'thave to use the power, you know, the
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Ferrari, you just have it and that's it.
Mm-hmm.
So I, this is about, andw and it is a road bike.
So, and then I have otherbike, which is a race bike.
Mm-hmm.
Race bike between two.
I still, to be honest, don't know,I have a Yamaha and a Kawasaki
Yamaha, R six Kawasaki is a six.
Six R. Mm-hmm.
So between these two bikes, Istill don't know, but I know the
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Kawasaki, not everybody can ride.
And by the way, those who ridein Kawasaki can ride any bike.
Mm-hmm.
Those who is riding other bikes,they will be struggling or they
might say, Kawasaki, I don't like it.
You know?
So it's not easy to ride a Kawasaki,it's not easy to ride a Kawasaki.
It's a very moody, um, lady.
(41:39):
Very moody, very sensitive.
More than other bikes, I ride many bikes.
Mm-hmm.
Many, many, many, many, especially,you know, race category bikes.
Yes.
Many, many.
But the Kawasaki is very special.
So I respect a lot of people.
Everybody who rides bikes,but especially Kawasaki on the
racetrack, not on the streets.
On the streets are okay, but racestyle Kawasaki who can do this, they
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can definitely manage any motorcycle.
Mm-hmm.
So yes, it's, it's two of my racing bikes.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, this bike's been travelingKiro, I send them by plane.
Very cool.
Days was, so we racedover there and come back.
It was amazing, you know?
Yeah.
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That's the, uh, my, my bikes.
I love it so much.
The Ducati beautiful, but, well,I never had dati as my own bike.
And when I race, because there's alsolike, you know, competition between
Ducati and BMW, and it's like, uh, peopleare to, it's forever, forever conflict.
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Forever better.
Not that better.
This better.
Not that better.
So I'm on the m BMW side and Iraced, I really raced, uh, the Duc.
In, in Bahrain?
No, no, no, no, no.
Bahrain school came to Dubai.
Mm-hmm.
And they managed to officiallywith que race in, in Dubai.
So I raised the Ducati.
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Beautiful.
But m BMW
a beautiful one, but I neverown it, so maybe I need to own
it to understand it better.
That knows, you know, it's actuallyreally nice that you mentioned, uh, BMW
because, uh, uh, in people mind, they'relike, oh, BMW's, that's like cars.
But, uh, they actually makinga really nice motorcycles also.
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And, uh, they, they're beautiful.
So when I see motorcycle fromBMW on streets, I'm like, wow.
It's, it's really beautiful.
Love it.
It is very beautiful.
You see, see?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't have really ride a bike.
BMW has something, um, again,that's always BM bmw or the
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ka, the cat's beautiful.
It's, it's a very beautifulbike, but I believe BMW, it's
so much elegance, you know it.
Mm-hmm.
The brutal, brutal by, yeah.
True.
Yeah.
But BMW, it has a power in glass too.
That's it.
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Power in glass.
It has its presence.
All right.
As you, you need to, maybe youneed to try it one day, uh, just,
you know, to, to ride a motorbike.
Maybe you come to Dubai andI'm gonna put you on bike.
That sounds good.
You know, actually, uh, it's really funny.
Uh, so I did ing, I did formulas, uh,and uh, like some GT cars as well.
(44:37):
Uh, but when in childhoodI've been watching motor gp,
I'm a big fan of Valentino.
Uh, that's why Oh yeah,that's why I got number 46.
And that's why my nickname here isLove 46, uh, because I've been with
this racing number for my life.
So yeah, maybe I have to try motorcycle.
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You are gonna ride in one day.
Like one hour, one day youwill be riding motorcycle.
Yeah.
You are not gonna go like volunteer Rosie.
That's so, I did not mention that.
No, but you will be managingjust to feel, what is that?
When you're riding motorbike forthe first time and you know, it
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just listens you and you're notscared, you know what you're doing.
You can stop easily, you can, youknow a bit, you can accelerate later.
Mm-hmm.
We can agree with youlittle because speed.
Okay.
Little bit.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's just one day.
Yeah.
You know, 98% God knows that they maybe,you know, not ready, it's too much.
(45:41):
Whatever.
But 19%.
Mm-hmm.
It's gonna be one.
Yeah.
You know, I'm just, uh, I'mso afraid to ride a motorcycle
on streets, uh, because here.
I just moved to Elma.
Uh, this is my hometown andlike a lot of people, uh, got
scooters here, ball, right?
Yeah.
But you know, it's actually thetraffic and uh, whole traffic crazy.
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And I'm so afraid to ride motorcycle here.
Uh, but you know, I've never beenthinking that, hey, I can try it
on the racing track, actually.
Uh, I see.
Yeah, you all time.
You're welcome.
But, but wise by way about Alti, Iheard there's so many bikes over there.
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It's a very developed mm-hmm.
You know, culturalcountry for a motorcycle.
That's what I heard.
I never been there, but I heard, um,maybe three weeks ago or two weeks
ago, I heard something like that.
Hmm.
I'm like, really?
Okay.
Interesting.
Really.
Okay.
So, but mind wise to you.
There if you gonna try it, if youwanna search the right person, you
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know, for the first time, becausethis is the most important thing.
Mm-hmm.
It's, some people might never likeit because of the first experience
and then it's gonna be fair.
One fall on the first class is gonna be,you know, forever changing the picture.
Mm-hmm.
I always say if you first time fall, ornot even, especially at the beginning,
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first time or whatever, we don'tusually fall on first class usually.
Okay.
When we, because it's a first step back.
Mm-hmm.
You don't have anysteps and you know, yet.
And if we have a back, it's not good.
Not good.
Really.
And then if for some reason her, uh, sheor he not, did not jump on the bike again,
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the same time on the same class for anyreason, God knows, maybe a hurt, maybe a
bike broke and you don't have other one.
Mm-hmm.
God knows.
Yeah.
There can be resist like that.
Then this finishing part onthe fall is the worst part.
Whatever, because it's like aseed small al small seed Yeah.
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Of fa and it just plant it.
Mm-hmm.
So if you're not gonna jumpon it again, it's gonna grow.
It gonna grow.
And then to be big tree of fear.
Mm-hmm.
And then you have to deal with it.
You know, it's a lotof work to finish that.
But if it's the same time,fall down, drink water.
Okay.
All good.
Yellow jumping in, youjump, you jump on it.
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And then nothing we killed,it's it, you know, nothing.
We remove it.
That's the restaurant.
Yeah.
It's, it's real important to havea proper, uh, first experience.
I agree with you.
Yeah.
It's very important.
It's a fun diamond.
First, first, first, fun diamond.
Very important.
So try to search and I'm, I'm surethere are plenty of people can
help you, but, but you know, see.
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These people, like where theytrain, how they train, who they
train, who these people became.
Mm-hmm.
Like, this kind of questionsare very important.
Not only this, this, this, no.
Who did you teach?
No.
Where is these people,like how they are now?
Maybe you can contact thesepeople, listen feedback from them.
Mm-hmm.
It's important.
Yeah, that's true.
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So, uh, or come to Dubai orwait a bit, then come to Dubai.
Yeah.
Maybe.
All right.
Yeah.
I'm sure you're gonna enjoy a lot.
So as we've been, uh,talking about bikes, yeah.
So you got like road bike and you gotbikes, uh, which you riding on track
and, uh, like your, um, people, uh, who'slearning from you, also writing them.
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Uh, can you give, uh, advice tosomeone who want to transition from
street writing to track writingand uh, uh, what's actually the
first thing they should learn?
Okay.
Good question.
Well, for where to start?
So much to say the firstthing is not easy, but choice.
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Uh, again, if, if somebody from thestreets wanna try a racetrack, I would
advise to find a place near you in yourhometown or close somewhere near somebody
who can help you at least one class.
You know, go somebody to explain,because it is another world.
It's not, it's totally differentfrom whatever street can say.
(50:10):
It's completely different.
So, because when you will go tothe racetrack, you might, you will
enjoy half or maybe some percent.
Mm-hmm.
But if you have something before, youknow, per private session, somebody
who can give it to you to week andgive it to radio on the plate, like.
You, then you, maybe it'sgonna be mini modelto, right?
(50:32):
Mm-hmm.
It's, you fall mini, minimodelto is the shortest way to
understand fastest, shortest, theeasiest, all of the tenons in it.
So the way I understand theracetrack, the physics, the
everything, the sitting position.
So it's, it's, it's amazing.
Even one class, one, mm-hmm.
Somebody carting, you can go onto carting.
(50:53):
It's will not be expensive.
It's probably, they will rentyou, you know, the safety gears.
So you can experience that.
And then when you go to thebakery truck, you really enjoy
because they not stop you.
They will never, never, never stop.
You need to have someexperience on the streets.
You go sign, you can rent from them,a suit, a bikes, everything you
can, nobody will stop organizers.
(51:15):
Usually they only stop those peoplewhose complete beginners, which
really struck for you, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Only but if you have some to experienceon streets, they never stop you.
How much will you enjoy over there?
You know, it is gonna be expensivein anyway, but how much, and
it's also one thing is enjoyment.
(51:35):
Other thing is your own safety, of course.
Mm-hmm.
Maybe doesn't swap them up here.
This too.
Yeah.
The safety and then ment altogether.
But if you have a. Personalsession with someone.
Coach.
I'm not saying me.
So where you live, right.
On a big bike or a mini motto.
Yes.
It'll gonna be so easy first time,but you luck, you will understand.
(51:56):
Mm-hmm.
So with this knowledge, you go to the bigracetrack and then say, enjoy weather.
That's what I was saying.
Alright.
Don't go just blindly.
That's nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Actually, uh, you remindme that I actually try mini
motor, uh, on a car trek once.
It's been really fun.
Um, because did you know, it's, it'ssmall and, uh, it's quite easy to
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uh, like steer and do everything.
It's really nice.
You did it by yourself?
Yeah, yeah, I did it.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
Okay.
I did not know that.
Okay.
That's super amazing.
Yeah.
You know, it was real funny.
Uh, I was in a carting suit with acarting helmet and all this stuff.
So I've been, uh, doinglike a couple of laps.
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Ben May, maybe that was not goodexperience because on the bike they would
is you cannot be wearing the same suit,you know, because you need another Sure.
Yeah.
It, it's not good suit.
Alright.
Because it's leather.
That's it.
Nothing else cannot be cutting suit.
No, no, no, no.
But I'm glad you it.
Yeah.
(52:59):
You know, I think it's, uh,it's good to start from scratch.
Uh, so as you said, like try minimotor and then go to the big track.
Uh, because, uh, for mealso, when you've been.
Racing on a card circuit.
Uh, then when I, uh, first timejump into open Wheeler, for
example, uh, I was in shock.
Like, you can see anything from formula.
(53:20):
Uh, it's really limited viewcompared to, uh, to the cart.
And, uh, you, you really need time toget used to the big track because it's
Of course, of course it's different.
Yeah, of course, of course.
But it's like simulator live simulator.
You from, from carting,you go to to, to what?
To the next story.
I What about cars?
(53:41):
Not so much educated, but I mean, youhave a carting then after carting,
there is something upgraded, right?
Yeah.
Some cars.
Which one?
Then?
And then, then.
So it's, it's like transitioning you, youwill be understanding what you're doing.
You'll have apex, you know,middle corner exit, I dunno.
Entry, middle corner, exit.
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Apex is everything like, you know, line.
It's important where you can getit, you'll get it the fastest
way of somewhere on carting.
That's the fastest way shortcut.
Course.
Yeah, no, if you, if you got a reallygood, uh, base, uh, like, uh, it,
it's going to lead you to like moreexperience and, uh, you're going
to learn easier, in easier way.
Um, mm-hmm.
So last one.
(54:22):
Exactly.
Uh, let's talk about your future.
Um, so what's your plans?
Uh, what are you planning forthis year and for upcoming years?
Also, uh, are you goingto stay in coaching?
Are you going to stay in Dubai or areyou maybe moving to other countries?
Amazing question.
Well, it is so much amazing becauseI am really little, little bit.
(54:45):
Okay.
I'm gonna say somesecrets, but not too much.
Okay.
Alright.
Okay.
Not too much.
Well, of course, here is Dubai.
I'm, I'm coming back to Dubai soon.
Basically.
Uh, a lot to do with their, uh,to, we have a lot of work with the
students, those who unfinished.
Mm-hmm.
(55:05):
You know, work.
We have unfinished work and wehave, we didn't start yet work.
We have a lot of work.
So, uh, also the project of, um, of ourways I could have say yeah, but which
has always been struggle in Dubai.
I, in, I hope it'll be, youknow, a successful, I general
hope it'll work, to be honest.
(55:26):
Mm-hmm.
I'm trying something.
If it'll work, I gainhope with God help then.
We'll need to do another podcast with you.
Alright.
If it'll work.
Okay.
We'll, not to say, but if not,I think it'll be the same.
And I'm kind of, I'llsay one thing in Russian.
(55:47):
Yes.
Creator.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So to try to translate it inEnglish, like if you want to, um,
you know, entertain or make laugh,uh, God, tell him about your plan.
Yeah.
So I, lately, lately I do have adirection, I do have a plan, but I'll
(56:11):
always keep a big gap Some place.
I, I don't wanna say big or small, Iwill keep place for gut interference
because whenever he knows, it'llbe always better than ever.
I can imagine.
You know?
Mm-hmm.
That's it.
So I, I open this door complete.
Yes.
The rest, we're gonna justwork, teach people safe lives,
(56:32):
you know, inspire, make dreams.
True again, bikes.
Nothing else.
I don't see myself in painting,however, I'm a tattoo artist.
But so far this became for me,more, far, more, far, more far.
I'm sold with bikes, bike bikes.
Yes.
And also what I see here in Russia,um, currently in Cdar, a lot of
(56:54):
bikes, PE people are unfortunatelya lot of situations not good here.
Not really nice to, to mention.
I feel that they also need some help.
Mm-hmm.
So I maybe will see how can Imake it in those places one year.
Mm-hmm.
And one there.
Right.
So you got a good plan.
That's a plan.
Yeah, that's a plan.
You know, I really like, uh, to go with.
(57:14):
You got, you got a plan.
Uh, but you kind of go in with the flow.
So if you mm-hmm.
Get some like side opportunities,you're like, Hey, maybe I can try this.
Yeah, why not?
So it's, it's not in my plan, but why not?
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's real nice.
Yeah.
Just to be it, it's a fate.
I say good faith, believe in a good thing.
(57:37):
Open your heart.
When it's open, the right, theright thing will just reach you.
You, it's like opening, not the heart.
Open your eyes.
You see, you enter.
That's it.
The right, the right things.
Good people and everything.
Yeah.
I became lately so much con, connectedto God, connected to something.
(57:58):
You know that one?
Yeah.
Alright.
Just life.
So thank you so much for being here.
It was a pleasure to talk with you.
It's really.
It's really goodexperience for me as well.
So now I'm going to thank you so much.
Maybe, uh, fly to Dubai anduh, learn some motorcycle.
(58:19):
Please come.
You'll enjoy, you'll have a home to stay.
You'll have a room to sleep.
You'll have food to eat.
You have everything just come.
That's really nice.
Let's record.
Don't worry.
You can come with your husband.
Yes, I know that's most important.
That's nice.
So once again, thank youso much for your time.
Uh, it was a pleasurefor me to talk with you.
(58:40):
Uh, once again guys, thankyou so much for another one.
Need talk.
I ho I, I hope peopleenjoy through our talk.
Yeah.
Too, but sure.
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