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Welcome everyone, uh,happy CEO on any talks.
Uh, today we got Brenna Schubert with us.
Uh, she's a racing driver for.
For Prodigy Racing.
Uh, welcome Brandon.
Happy to have you here.
Thank you so much.
I'm excited to be on.
Yeah.
So let's start how you get actuallyinto racing when bring you here and then
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go on to get to know you better today.
Yeah, definitely.
So, um, it was kind of funny.
Me and my dad were at a miniaturegolf course when I was nine years
old, and they had these littlerinky-dink go-karts there that I just.
Begged my dad to try 'em and as soonas my foot hit the gas, I just fell
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in love with the adrenaline rush.
So, um, that was kind ofthe main start for me.
And then we kind of shoppedaround for some different go-kart
places and eventually got intocarting a little bit more serious.
Kind of took it into my own hands to tryand cart at more of a national level.
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And then, um, I got some opportunitiesin a few different testing opportunities
in cars, uh, through the PT AutoSport, aspiring Driver Shootout.
And then, uh, found this racingprodigy opportunity in the Sims.
So I downloaded Streetcarand started practicing on
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that mobile, uh, racing game.
And earn my spot into thethe Prodigy Racing League.
Hmm.
That's awesome.
Uh, so you actually started from indoorcar carting, so, which is rent cart.
Yeah.
Right.
Um, uh, do you have like, uh,big, uh, championships, uh,
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in United States with those?
Uh, because I remember, uh.
That I did some, you know, in,in, in Russia we had endurance
championship with run cars, cart.
Uh, it was, uh, really exciting,a lot of teams, uh, and, uh,
like five people per cart.
It was really awesome.
So tell me more about this.
I. Yeah, definitely.
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We have a few, uh, reallygood championships actually
in the United States.
Um, we don't quite have like theSodi World Series that mm-hmm.
A lot of other countries have.
Um, I'm not sure why, 'cause we dohave a lot of sodi rental carts here.
Um, but we do have thetouring cart championship.
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And, uh, endurance carting USA, whichis kind of what you were talking about
with a lot of the endurance racing.
Um, so when I first started out,I mainly just kind of started at.
My home track, which would bethe Lehigh Valley Grand Prix.
Mm-hmm.
And they're one of the onlygas indoor tracks left, you
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know, that aren't electric.
Um, so, and then me and my dadwould travel around sometimes
to find some of the, like IronMan races or endurance races.
So we went to some tracks in Connecticut.
Um, on track carting specifically.
And then, uh, you know, after I kindof did that for a while, then I started
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traveling more with the touring cartchampionship where they go to, um, a few
different states across the East coast.
And I also did some races withendurance carting, USA, where
they go all over the country andthey hold, you know, super long.
Upwards of 12 hour endurance races.
I also did, um, a 24 hourendurance race with sim craft.
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Mm-hmm.
That was really, really fun.
That was in the, uh, a Briggs LO 2 2 0 6.
Um, so that's not quite a rental cart perse, but that was just an endurance race.
But the rest of the enduranceraces that I've done have been
in, in rental carts like that.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
I think, you know, enduranceracing, so exciting.
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Uh, I really like to doendurances in I racing.
Uh.
Because it's different strategy.
You know, you're trying to save fuel,you're trying to save tires, and uh,
like be careful on the track, uh,rather than pushing so hard like we're
doing in sprint races and short races.
Uh, so I think you like thisformat as well and Okay.
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And how you move actually from carto, uh, national car racing and.
Can you tell me about difference?
Uh, so like first time you jump into thecar on the bigger racing track compared
to what you had in the, in the cart?
Yeah, so firstly, I definitely agreewith, with you on endurance racing.
I love, I love thoseendurance carting races.
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They're so much fun.
But, um, yeah, when I first moved up tocars, my first ever experience in a car
was the Lucas Oil Formula Car School.
And uh, I believe my dad.
Uh, got me that for my birthday.
I was like begging him.
He was pretty reluctant to do it, butthere was the opportunity, um, at the
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time the Lucas Oil had a, a shootoutwhere if you just attended the school
you were eligible for the shootout of thepotential to win a full season with them.
So I think that kind ofwon him over a little bit.
Mm-hmm.
But my first time in that car.
Was definitely eye-opening and alittle humbling because you know, I was
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coming from winning all these cartingchampionships and everything like that,
and then I jumped into this car and Ikind of expected to be good right off the
bat, and that was not really the case.
So I still did pretty decent lookingback, like I just expected to be
the best in the school and I wasn't.
So, um.
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You know, it definitely waseye-opening, just kind of transitioning.
I always thought that the transitionfrom carts to cars went super
smooth for everybody and thatit prepared you for everything.
It definitely prepares you alot, but I don't think it's.
A super smooth translationfor a lot of people.
So I struggled there.
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But, um, then my experiences after thatwere all in like sports cars and I felt
really comfortable right away for themost part in the sports cars that I drove.
So, um, I got the kind of the opportunitywith a formula woman to drive some, some
sports cars, and then eventually the.
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Being selected for the PT AutoSport Aspiring Driver Shootout,
which is in the the Porsche Boxer.
Mm-hmm.
That's awesome.
Uh, yeah, as you said, you know,uh, transition from cart, uh, not
going as smooth as you expect.
And, uh, because the same thing,uh, happened to me when I, uh, been,
uh, joining the formal, the openwheelers after I've been like, uh,
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for many years in carting, uh, I was.
Wow, you, you actually don't seeanything like, uh, from cockpit and it's,
it's, it's, it's horrible, you know?
And, uh, you just realize the track isso wide, the, the main street, you know,
it's real long and, uh, it took hourslike to, to get till the end of it.
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Uh, so yeah, it took, you know, some timefor me to get used to it also because
view is, uh, completely different to cart.
Definitely.
And not only that, but I mean since we,we both kind of, it sounds like, kind
of made that transition to formula.
You have to, you know, the, thebrakes you have to brake so, so
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hard and everything like that.
And it's just, it's just com youknow, not completely different,
but it's pretty different thereand just a lot more intimidated.
'cause when you're in a go-kart, youdon't really have to worry too much
about crashing or anything like that.
But when you're in a car.
If you crash, it's either verypainful or very painful to the wallet.
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So, or Yeah, that's true.
Like cars is so cheap comparedto racing on the big track.
Um, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, as you said, uh, you haveto push brakes harder and, uh, you
know, you, you can feel like, uh,G-Force is also more and, uh, yeah.
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So formal it's, uh, completely different.
Uh, I remember guys, uh, who's been,uh, dating the track days and, uh, I've
been doing formal these days and theylike are coming to me and asking me, so
they've been driving the Porsche G uh.
Gig free errors, uh, on the track.
And they like, uh, tried to fora few laps formals and they like
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coming to me with a huge respect.
Like, how are you doing this,this, this thing is so scary to
drive on the track, you know?
Yeah.
So, yeah, it's definitely,you know, formal.
It's a great experience.
Really fun cars.
Yeah.
Big props to you for doing that.
I would like to, at some point, try outa formula car again, now that I have some
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more basic car knowledge and basic mm-hmm.
You know, skills that way.
I think it definitely was superintimidating as a first experience
in cars, but I'm sure it'llstill be intimidating as a.
You know, secondary experience, buthopefully I can at some point jump
back in to see if I've, I've conqueredthat, that intimidation or not, but.
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Yeah, definitely was more experience.
Uh, like it'll be easier todo and, uh, you know, more fun
to have, uh, for you for sure.
Um, so let's, uh, dive deep into, uh,like car racing and all this stuff.
So what's your favorite combo,uh, which you've been driven?
Uh, like the, the car and, andthe track also in real life, so.
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Probably my overall favoritecombo would have to be, uh,
the Racing Product U Radical.
Mm-hmm.
Um, at Homestead Miami because I justkind of really jived with that track.
I did really good mm-hmm.
Um, on that weekend, and it was the firstkind of time in that car where I was like,
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okay, you know, I have the pace to win andI feel really comfortable on this track.
However, I do have to say my first,uh, well actually technically my
second experience in a car, 'cause thefirst time was the Lucas Oil School.
Mm-hmm.
But, um, the second time in thecar was with the formula woman.
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Uh.
Finals in, you know, north America,they're held at Calabogie Motor
Sports Park in Canada, and it'snot a super well-known track.
Mm-hmm.
But, oh my gosh, that is the prettiestand coolest track that I've been to
since, I mean, it's just, it's super long.
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It's about, it's over five kilometers,so you know, over three miles and.
It's absolutely beautiful.
It has the coolest turns that I've everbeen on, like the coolest combinations.
And I went during the fall andit's like in the woods with
all the pretty orange leaves.
So it was just absolutely beautiful.
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But, um, I was only driving likea scion, um, FRS there, I believe.
So it wasn't a super, super, youknow, interesting car necessarily.
Mm-hmm.
The track was just amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Canada is so beautiful, uh,with nature and everything.
Definitely.
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Um, what do you like the most in tracks?
Uh, like for me, uh, I reallylike, you know, up hills
downhill, uh, some blind corners.
Uh, that that's really, you know,like, uh, get, get me excited,
uh, real like road Atlanta.
I, I would like to, would love to draw.
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Drive this track in real life,uh, if I will have opportunity.
Um, I also had, uh, someraces with formulas.
We had, uh, the cousin ring.
This is, uh, the track whichI drove with was formula.
It was with a blind corner.
It was really scary, youknow, just going uphill.
Then you, you've got a momentwhere you're breaking, you're
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like breaking and, uh, you know.
Uh, taking the breath and thenjumping, uh, into ss, which going
down, it was really exciting.
So what about you?
What, what's your, like, what's favorite,uh, like about the, the track for you?
I'd say, so my, my favorite thing is just.
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Whether I feel like it flows or not.
Mm-hmm.
Like if I can, if it's a flowytrack and I can just get in
the groove, it's so much fun.
Mm-hmm.
And just feels greatwhen you're out there.
I'm sure you've kind of hadsimilar experiences, but,
um, I'd say probably where.
I've found that I do like the bestat is kind of high speed tracks.
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Mm-hmm.
For some reason.
Um, which is kind of weird 'cause I feellike I'm like, you know, I, I feel like
I take tight corners pretty good, butfor some reason if it's more of just
kind of high speed corners or anythinglike that, I feel like I typically
do the best at those types of tracks.
Mm-hmm.
But, um.
Just any track that flows and has a lotof, like you said, interesting corners and
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elevation changes into dips and corners.
Those are, those are so much fun andreally feel really good to drive.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you.
And, uh, you, you mentioned, uh, theradical championship, so how you actually
get into this, uh, as I'm aware therewas some kind of league, so we get
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into it and then, uh, get opportunityto drive into the championship.
Um, so tell us more about this.
Yeah, so, um, I. Didn't have myown SIM at the time, and I actually
technically still don't have my own sim.
I'm just lucky enough tohave some race car driver
roommates who have sims as well.
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So, um, I, I get to use their sim,uh, pretty much whenever I want.
But, uh, since I didn't have myown physical sim, I decided to
try and enter the Racing Prodigycompetition through Street Cart,
which is a mobile game on your phone.
And that's where some of theselections were being made for
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the, uh, racing Prodigy Shootout,which was in the real cars.
So, um, I just had to post.
A top 50 fastest time to then beeligible to send in a video on why I
should be selected for the shootout.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so I got in the top 50on the game and then sent in.
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My video was selected for.
The kind of final judges pick.
And then I actually wasn'tselected by the judges.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but they ended up, there was,it was me and one other driver,
Camden Hibit, which they foundthat they saw a lot of potential in
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also, so they decided to, uh, give.
Two extra Prodigy pass passesfor the shootout, which
were awarded to me and him.
So that was really, really awesomeof them, and really nice of them,
and nice of the sponsors to allow'em to do that also and give us
the shot that we were looking for.
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It's really interesting.
Uh, you got selectionevent with a mobile game.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
That's really funny.
You know, I, I never heard,uh, that you can get, uh, like.
We, we know, uh, some examples where,uh, actually, uh, people who's in some
racing, they jumping into the realworld of racing and get into selections.
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Uh, like, you know, for example, thegrantor ismo, um, academy or something
like this, but never heard that, uh,you know, actually the mobile game
can bring you to the real life racing.
Yeah.
And I think, you know,the reason that they.
Mainly, you know, had streetcar as apart of this opportunity is 'cause racing
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Prodigy is trying to find the best ofthe best from, you know, all around
the world and just give opportunitiesto those who don't have them.
So, um, you know.
People might not be able to evenafford a simulator to mm-hmm.
Enter this competition through iRacingor, or R Factor or the other platforms
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that Racing Prodigy was selecting from.
So I think it's really cool thatthey kind of included street cart,
the mobile game in there to givethat opportunity to anyone who can
just download a game on their phone.
Um.
And honestly the, the selectionsor the drivers that came from
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Streetcar, a lot of them, them didreally, really well in real life.
'cause I think mainly, even thoughit's just a carting game, it still
teaches you all the lines and mm-hmm.
Car control and everything like that.
So, um, yeah, it was reallyinteresting to see how they progressed
throughout and it's really cool.
Yeah.
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You know, it's really nice.
Uh, you also mentioned that, uh.
You know, it's more open for more peoplebecause not everybody got opportunity
to got a, a simulator, uh, at home, ther or not enough room, or not enough,
uh, like budgets, uh, or something.
So it's really nice to see that,uh, they found a way to, uh, bring
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more people into selection event.
Uh, really Cool.
Uh, tell me more about, uh, radio SR one.
Uh, the car, uh, thisis a prototype and, uh.
It should be somewhere between,yeah, the, like the road
car, like GT car and formula.
So what's your feelings about this car?
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Uh, do you like it?
And, uh, yeah.
So gimme more your emotions about it.
So I definitely love the car sometimes.
It doesn't love me back though, but No.
But, um, I love thecar, I love driving it.
It definitely feels verysimilar to a go-kart.
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Um, you know, before I had an experiencein this car, a lot of people say
that it, it feels pretty much exactlylike a go-kart and they're right.
But the problem is, I. Have been kindof out of carting for a while, so
I have to kind retrain my brain todrive, like I'm in a go-kart again.
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So it's actually, even though I camefrom carting, it's like harder for
me because I'm so, I'm so used tonow driving heavy sports cars mm-hmm.
And having to be super smooth withmy steering and, you know, easing off
of the brakes for, you know, trailbreaking and everything like that.
Mm-hmm.
In the radical, you really don't.
I have to trail break that much and, youknow, in especially, 'cause right now I'm,
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I'm working as an instructor at the, uh,Ron Fellows performance Driving School
and Spring Mountain, where we're drivingCorvettes and Cadillacs all day long.
Mm-hmm.
And my muscle memory is, you know,firm on the brakes initially and then
pretty much almost immediately start.
Trailing off the brake.
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Mm-hmm.
To turn into the corner andthen just coasting for a while,
then getting to gas, but like.
In the radicals, you have to holdthat firm pressure for way longer.
Mm-hmm.
And, and then just kind of immediatelycome off and immediately get to the gas.
So it's kind of hard formy brain to switch off from
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Corvette mode into radical mode.
But when I am driving and I love it,and I'm like, this feels so good.
Like, I feel like I can catch the carreally easily too, for the most part.
It's just amazing and fun to drive.
And it's an, it's a physical workouttoo, and it feels good 'cause I
haven't really been able to finda car that's, you know, almost the
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same physical workout as Go-karting.
Mm-hmm.
So, um, the radical is a, apretty good workout and it just.
It's super, super fun to drive.
You feel like you can really feelthe arrow kicking in as well, even
though the estro ones actually haveless arrow than the other radicals.
But, um, you can definitely feel thearrow and it's, it's a blast to drive.
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Yeah, you know, it's really sounds,uh, like the form of four and,
uh, form masters, which I draw.
Uh, so yeah, you really have to likepush brakes and then release as,
uh, as soon as possible, uh, thebrakes and, uh, jump into the corner,
uh, because you don't need that.
Long trail break in, uh,because car got IRO, so IRO
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help also with it a little bit.
Yeah.
So you need to just transfer the weightto the front and then car going to do
everything for you and you just, uh,return back on gas as soon as possible.
Uh, so it's really cool.
Yeah.
Um.
It's, you know, uh, about the Corvette.
I can't imagine, you know, this isreally heavy car and like with a big
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engine, uh, that, that would be, yeah.
Really hard to switch to radicalbecause it's really light and,
uh, nice, uh, car to drive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's kind of funny because,I mean, I should be better at
driving the radical, I feel like,because my, I grew up in carting.
Yeah.
And that's my main background.
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But because I'm driving these Corvettesevery single day as my daily job,
like now, it's kind of screwed me,screwed me for my radical damage.
But I think I like.
For the most part, you know, I think I gotthe hang of these radicals really well.
I, you know, at, for example,the Homestead Miami race, I
performed really, really well.
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Um.
It's just sometimes it, you know, afterthe first session, the, the coaches
are always telling me, looking at thedata, well, you need to, you're entering
with too much, you know, momentum.
Mm-hmm.
You need to stay on thefirm pressure longer.
Um, and I'm like, Ugh, what the heck?
Like, I'm just trying to takethis for like, you know, but.
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Um, yeah.
So, but once, once they tell me that,it usually registers okay, I'm in
radical mode, Brenna not Corvette mode.
Mm-hmm.
So, yeah.
All right.
That's really cool that you,uh, adapt, uh, to the car and,
uh, actually had fun with it.
Um, really nice engineers,like, uh, save them please.
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Uh, they helping a lot withtelemetry and all this stuff for us.
Definitely.
Yeah.
I mean.
Big thank you to the engineersand the coaches and everything.
It's so, it's so cool what they, youknow, and how much we benefit from it too.
It's, it's awesome.
Yeah.
So, uh, moving forward, uh, let'stalk a little bit about, uh, that
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you, uh, global Ambassador of theFi Girls on Track and also, and also
you are eSport Cup winner, uh, of it.
Uh, so yeah.
I'm ready to hear a story from you.
Yeah.
So that, that opportunitywas, was really cool.
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Um, I basically was just scrolling onInstagram and I found the advertisement
from the FIA about the eSport.
And I was like, okay, you know, Ineed to practice on, on the simulator
more anyway, so I'll go for it.
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Didn't really expect to get a top timebecause I, like I said, I act, I don't
have my own simulator and I don't really.
Um, consider myself asuper good simulator racer.
I actually typically only use thesims that are available to me for just
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practicing tracks that I am going to soon.
Mm-hmm.
So I've actually, I don't thinkI've ever actually done an
official I race, race before.
I just go, I just go on thesim, like to do open lapping.
So, um.
You know, once I saw that it wasa time attack and not a race,
I was like, now we're talking.
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So, so, um, so, um, basically I just,I just got on the sim and I did like.
500 laps.
The other girls that won their regiononly did like less than a hundred, but
I had to do like 500 to get a good time.
Mm-hmm.
And just was practicing, practicing.
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But I'm really glad that I didit because it really, um, I think
is gonna help me in the future.
I, I find myself already gettingfaster, much quicker on the
simulator when I am do, am practicingother cars ahead of my races.
So I think it's really gonna bebeneficial, especially since with the
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racing prodigy stuff, I saw how goodsome of these sim racers were as soon
as they jumped in the real life carand they didn't even have any real
life car experience and they justjumped in and were quick right away.
So that's something that I'm tryingto work on because I find myself
getting up to speed, but not asquickly as some other people.
So I'm trying to work on thatusing the simulator to do so.
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But anyway, um, I ended up posting thefastest lap time after 500 laughs for,
uh, north America and Central America.
Mm-hmm.
So, uh, yeah, they reached outto me, said that I, I won my
region and then, uh, we got to be.
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Um, eSport ambassadors at the Girls OnTrack event at the London Formula Race.
Mm-hmm.
And that was really cool.
It was the first time going to the formularace and we're supposed to go, um, again,
to one of the upcoming F1 races as well.
So I'm looking forward to it.
And, and, uh, it was supergreat interacting with all
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of the, the girls on track.
Mm-hmm.
Girls, they're, they're so great andI, it was really cool 'cause um, one
of the girls that I'm friends with onInstagram, uh, her name's Andy and she
messaged me and was like, oh my gosh,I'm gonna be at the Girls On Track event.
I'll come up to you.
And we met and we were.
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Uh, talking about her go-karting.
She's an Irish Go Karter.
And, uh, I was coaching her on the Sims.
Mm-hmm.
And she did amazing on that simulator.
She's gonna be a really good racecar driver when she's older for sure.
But, uh, yeah, so it'sjust so cool, you know.
Getting to kind of meet these young girlsin carting or, or other aspects who you
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actually kind of know online and then meetthem in person just from around the world.
It was, it was really cool.
Yeah, it's definitely, Ithink, nice experience.
Uh, as we got here in the, in talksalso, I, I made a lot of, uh, girls,
uh, who's like in motor sports industry.
They.
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Either like designers orracing drivers, uh, or coaches.
So, yeah, it's really cool to meetpeople from your industry, share your
experience with them, uh, especially ifthey only on the beginning, only starting
their way, uh, into the, the racing.
It's really nice.
Um, do you feel, uh, do you haveany like stereotype because you're
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a girl and they're in racing or not?
Because, uh, personally I had some, um,it was really funny, uh, when I get into
the formula, I was like 17 years old and,uh, here in Kazakhstan, they used to have
articles, uh, you know, topics about methat, uh, girl without a driving license.
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Uh, because you know, people don'tunderstand that you got racing license.
Yeah.
So it was really funny.
And you know, when I wasn't aformula, I also was like alone.
So boys, they've been together witheach other, like having fun, uh,
talking and uh, doing all the stuff.
I was alone, like, uh, and uh,do you have something like this
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in your ex experience or not?
So I totally get you.
I mean, when I was younger and I firststarted out in carting, I was like, what
are these people talking about that girlsare treated differently in motor sport?
'cause I didn't get that at all when Iwas first growing up, uh, in carting.
I felt like I was treatedperfectly, fairly and everything.
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And, um, it wasn't until I kind of got on.
Social media and people areable to hide behind the screen.
Mm-hmm.
And then say kind of bad things aboutme on their phones or something,
because they're not seeing me in person.
But I think in person also too, becauseI'm, I'm five feet, 11 inches tall.
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Mm-hmm.
And I, I think sometimes I'm a littleintimidating to people, so I think, I
think in person it wasn't as bad becauseI don't think anybody was going to.
Say hateful things to myface or anything like that.
But there, there are definitely, youknow, some, some joking stereotypes or.
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Even at my job, uh, since I'm an aninstructor, you know, sometimes the
students, they'll, they'll, you know,lightheartedly make some jokes about,
um, being a girl driver and, and,but then I, I take them for their.
Demonstration lap where they're in thepassenger seat and I'm, I'm driving
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the car for them, driving their carto kind of show them a, a good lap.
And then after that they don't,they don't say anything anymore.
So, yeah.
But, um, I mean, for the most part,I don't, I don't think anything has
been super, super bad for a while.
Some of my carding competitors, whenI first got started in the national.
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Series, they were givingme a lot of hate online.
Mm-hmm.
Because, like I said, I was making,I was making a lot of TikTok videos
at the time, so I guess maybe theythought that they were, I was making
like racing related tiktoks and I thinkthey maybe thought that they were a
little cringey or something like that.
So, making fun of me a lot there.
Um, and sometimes itwould translate on track.
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They would try and put me off.
The track and stuff like that.
But other than that, everybody, forthe most part has been pretty great.
Um, but I do see for surestereotypes coming into play
at times throughout my life.
Yeah, definitely.
You know, we've been, uh, talking about,uh, like different communities, different,
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uh, countries and how, uh, like, uh.
Girls got experience, uh, there.
And the only thing which I noticedthat, you know, formula can be a
little bit more competitive, so peoplelike, uh, more, more aggressive.
Uh, and uh, overall, uh, racing communityis really friendly for everybody.
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Uh, for example, forexample, that are racing.
And racing is really cool.
And, you know, met somepeople, uh, with this.
Comments.
I, I really like, like women and,uh, and a cup of coffee, you know?
Yes.
Oh yeah.
It's so funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, you know, couple of timesreally and, uh, most of the time,
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uh, community are really friendly.
They super supportive and so nice.
And it's cool to see that, uh, moregirls seem to like jumping into the
sim racing and, uh, racing as well.
It's nice to see.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, there's, there'sso many more girls involved
just over the past few years.
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Yeah, I mean, when I was growing up therewas, there was nobody like, you know, I
was always the only girl in my events.
Um, in the US I think there's still.
Not many girls in carting.
'cause a lot of times when Ido a carting event, I'm still
usually the only girl in my class.
Mm-hmm.
But sometimes there are a few others,but I think in other aspects like of, of
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car racing in general, I think there's.
A bigger population of girlsnow, and on sim racing as well.
It's definitely growing in all areas,but I think especially in those for sure.
Yeah, I think the reason of it, uh, justbecause, you know, ing uh, this is a place
where people jumping when they young, whenthey like nine years old, six years old,
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or something like this, like maybe that.
A little bit harder to do forsome people because their family
not aware of racing at all.
And then they like, uh, jumping intotheir twenties 25 and they're like,
oh, I can raise the car on track.
So yeah, I think that that's why, uh, wecan see a lot of, uh, girls, uh, like I
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think in the United States also, we'vebeen talking about that in drag racing.
Uh, a lot of girls and in car racing and.
Like everywhere.
But you know, ing I thinkit's, uh, a little bit, uh,
you know, niche, uh, of racing.
Uh, where are you getting becauseof your family, first of all?
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Yeah, definitely.
All right.
I would have to think.
Yeah.
And moving forward, what's your plansfor this year and upcoming years?
Uh, what do you plan todo and what's your dream?
Yeah, so first and foremost, fingerscrossed that I'll get redrafted for
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the Racing Prodigy series next year.
'cause I definitely want to continueracing radicals and just being a
part of that program is, and theirmission is absolutely amazing.
Um, but then I'm also at the end ofthis month gonna make my NASCAR Euro
series debut in the Rookie Challenge.
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So I'm super excited about that.
Uh, one of my roommates made their,uh, NASCAR Euro Open series debut, um,
a few months ago at Brand's Hatch and.
I was just kind of talking to themabout it and I was like, you know what?
I want to try one of these cars.
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So, um, I'm just starting out on therookie challenge though, 'cause I've never
been in any type of stock car before.
So the rookie challengeis pretty much just.
Almost like a time attack.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, but, but there is a competition to it.
Um, so I just starting out in thatfor now, getting my bearings in the
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car and then hopefully I can go for afull season in NASCAR Euro next year.
Maybe try and do an actual racebefore the end of this season.
We'll see.
Um, but yeah, I'm superexcited about that.
It's gonna be in, uh, chea, uh, atAuto drum moss or most, I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure on the pronunciation.
Do you know, do you know thepronunciation by any chance?
Um, I think, I think you'reright with pronunciation.
Yeah.
I dunno.
Yeah.
But it's.
You know, I'm aware of this track.
Uh, it's in, uh, it's in arace room, uh, simulator.
Okay.
So you can find it here.
Yeah.
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It's a super fun trackand it's definitely flowy.
It seems like, like I, I think it's gonnabe my type of track, but, uh, we'll see.
I'm kind of hoping thatlike if I end up doing.
Good.
And I feel really good in the carafter like the rookie challenge.
Maybe I can just like jump ina car for the race, but We'll,
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but probably, probably not.
But um, you know, I just.
I've been driving it on, on oneof my roommates simulators, and
the track just feels amazing.
I'm, I'm so excited for it.
So I'm hoping that thatkinda all works out.
And then, um, you know, for nextseason in NASCAR Euro, and then
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hopefully at some point I cantransition over to American nascar.
It's just, hmm.
A lot more of this than overin Europe at the moment.
So, um, but you know, I'll be lookingfor some sponsors for NASCAR Euro series
and hopefully I can transition backto my home country here for mm-hmm.
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NASCAR at, at some pointlater on in the journey.
Yeah.
I'm actually, you know, really jealousand, uh, so happy for you, uh, because.
I jump into racing and I've beenlike, racing and foremost, and I
discover ovals and I'm like, oh my God.
I, I would like to try the carat least for once on track.
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So yeah, it, it, it'sgoing to be great for you.
So wish you good luck, uh, in NASCAR andhopefully we go on to see you in like
Xfinity and uh, CAP series in the future.
Hopefully.
We'll see.
Yeah, I mean, you know,I think like a lot of us.
Um, you know, it's just, obviouslyit's, it's a lot about money these days.
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Um, not necessarily talent, butthat's why I'm so thankful for
the opportunities that I have had.
Over the years.
Mm-hmm.
Um, with the, with all the, theshootouts that I've been involved in,
you know, the, the pt, auto SportsShootout, the, um, even the Formula
Woman Shootout, the Mazda Shootout, andthen the Racing Prodigy Shootout, which
ultimately gave me my, you know, my mostshot in a professional racing series.
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And it's just incredible what thesecompanies are doing, um, to try and fix.
The issue at hand because no othersport has this issue really, it's,
it's pretty much just racing.
So it's just so cool thatall these companies are.
Or trying to help out and have theseshootouts just honestly from the kindness
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of their heart, but for their passion forthe sport and passion for helping us out.
So, yeah.
Yeah, it's, uh, nice to see.
I noticed in some raising the same stufflike, uh, companies getting vault into
it and, uh, like bringing more money,bringing more prize money for people also
to give them opportunities in their life.
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And, uh, definitely it's,uh, cool to see that, uh.
In racing, we got, uh, the same stuff.
I also, uh, so happy about my experience,which I had because I'm not from Rich
family, like we started ING and then weget sponsors, uh, here in Kazakhstan.
And then I get into the team and, uh,actually so grateful for this experience.
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And yeah, it's, it's really coolthat, uh, you know, companies.
Uh, jumping in and, uh, realizethat racing also can be fun and
they can support drivers and, uh,they can be their ambassadors.
And I think it's really important andwhat you did for your career already.
You did, uh, cool networking.
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Yeah.
And, uh, I think it's going tohelp you in the future anyway.
Well, thank you.
Yeah.
That means a lot and I mean, yeah,props to you as well for, I mean,
I would absolutely love to drive aformula car too, so I'm jealous of you.
You're jealous of me.
Maybe one of these days wecan trade places or something.
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Alright.
Yeah.
And the last one will be, uh, what advicecan you give to girls and boys, uh, who.
Want to, uh, jump into the racing,uh, doesn't matter if they like
six years old or 2025 or maybe 45.
So what your advice will be for them.
So, I mean, it's gonnasound like a cliche, but.
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I always tell myself, 'causesometimes I hear these cliches and
I'm like, oh, it's just a cliche.
And then I really think aboutit and I'm like, wait, that
actually has some meaning to it.
But really, I mean, trulyfollow your dreams because,
and just don't give up on them.
Because really if you don't give upon them and you're working towards
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them every day, you're gonna make it.
I mean, I, people tell you thisall the time, but I feel like
you don't really believe it.
But, um, you should becausejust, you know, for instance,
when I was in middle school.
I told my guidance counselor,uh, that I wanted to be a race
car driver when I grew up.
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When he, when he asked, uh, youknow, what type of careers I'm
looking into, and I said, well,I'm gonna be a race car driver.
And he starts laughing.
Mm-hmm.
You know, in my face and was like, well,maybe we should come up with another plan.
But it's, you know, if he saw me now.
Look who's laughing, but,
so, so yeah, like, you know, reallyjust follow your dreams and don't
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believe anything that anybody says.
If you know that you can makeit yourself, then go make it.
Because I mean, evenmy parents, they were.
They, we were going through a struggleperiod because they did not like that
I was spending all my money on racing.
Mm-hmm.
And they really thought that Ishould just give up the dream.
And then like six months later I got theracing Prodigy opportunity, I got the PT
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auto sport opportunity, I got this job inthe, um, you know, instructing industry.
And that all happened,you know, right after.
That period where I was really goingto head to head with my parents.
It was a really rough time forall three of us because I just
was not giving up on this dreamand I wasn't going to, but mm-hmm.
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It worked out and now they're ultrasupportive of me because I made it.
So don't listen to anybody but yourself.
Really keep pushing for thatdream if it's truly what you want.
Yeah, absolutely agree with you.
And also want to add a little bitthat, uh, community is really friendly
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and, uh, if someone would like tojump into racing, same racing, uh,
like ing uh, they should go here.
Uh, people going to welcome youand support you in your way,
uh, give you advices and uh, um.
Maybe you'll get the opportunity tojump into like bigger racing team
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and, uh, on big tracks as well.
Yeah, definitely.
And, and if anybody listening or watching,ever wants, you know, any feedback or
advice or anything, feel free to reachout on Instagram or anything like that.
So.
Yeah.
Uh, so guys, don't forget to followBrenna on her Instagram and just
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share the link into the chat.
Uh, Brenda, thank you so much.
It was, uh, absolutelyamazing to talk with you.
You're gorgeous.
Uh, so yeah, wish you good luck.
Well, thank you.
But you should have heard me talkingto my roommates earlier because I was
like, I was like, oh, because I just gothome from work like a half hour before
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the podcast started and I was like,oh, like I can't straighten my hair.
My hair's a mess.
And I was like, I was like freaking out.
And they're like, they'relike, Bruna, you look fine.
And then you say that, andI'm like, oh my goodness.
No.
Hey, I just, I just had like a one hoursleep before the podcast, so all good.
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Well, you look beautiful and yourred lipstick looks gorgeous too.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So yeah, wish you good luck.
Uh, once again, thank youso much for your time.
It was really fun.
Uh, guys, thank you so much for watching.
We'll see you for next, uh, need talks.
Thank you.
And thank you Brena.
Yeah, thank you guys.
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