Silver Dream ... King of the Mountain (EILFM Crossover)

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And now I hit the button.
Hi, miss.
Come to push the button.
Ooh, that's a good pick.
Should I do a dramatic intro?
All right.
All right.
We're back in 1981 and a group of friendsraced their high powered cars up and down,

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a dangerous and deadly mountain road,known as Mulholland Drive to see who can
claim the title of King of the Mountain.
Yeah.
Wait, I already saw thisSkull, silver Dream racer.
Guys, if you haven't seen Silver DreamRacer, if you've seen this movie, you've
seen Silver Dream Racer, just motorcycles.
So this is Tanya's recommendation.

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Ooh.
And I'm so happy that we areliterally picking up exactly
where we left off the last time.
We've got big hair and leather jacketsand music montages and everything that the
last Chase was missing is in this movie.
Yeah.
So much in this movie, I'm like, oh,this had to been made like 1974 or right.
Something.
Oh, oh.
81. Really.

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Alright.
Yeah guys, we gotta go around theroom and nobody knows who they're
even listening to right now.
Well, I'm Steve.
And I'm Izzy.
And we're with everything Ilearned from movies and Tonight
Jack King in the Mountain.
But we have with us the three The Onlyfrom the Grand Tour Motor Sports Break
Fix podcast, Eric Mountain, Manan.
Andrea, welcome.

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Well, don't forget Brad's here too.
Hey Brad.
Oh, and Brad's iPhone.
That's right.
Sorry.
He doesn't have his picture on.
I'm sorry, Brad, you alldon't have your pictures on.
So there you go.
I believe that's called Quid pro quo.
Yes.
Tit for tit.
So we only have six ho so we'll beable to get all of our funny lines in.
It's gonna be great.
There you go.
But yeah, 1980 one's King of the Mountain.

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So is this everybody's firsttime watching this movie?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Maybe Tanya.
I don't know.
Tanya.
Tanya.
No, I had never seen it.
Okay.
Okay.
I had not seen it.
I found it.
Well, yeah, we, uh, we found out someinteresting stuff about this movie.
Looking into it though.
Oh boy.
Before we get too deep into thisfirst time, watch for all of us.
I don't know about you guys.
I'm a little thirsty.
I'm sober.
I need to fix that.

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Yeah, right.
Well, we have from SockeyeBrewing in Boise, Idaho.
Dagger Falls.
IPA 6.5% out call by volume and 100 IBUs.
Woo-hoo.
12 ounce canned has abeautiful salmon on the front.
Yeah.
I believe it was sockeye salmon.
That was, I mean it sure as hell.
Better me.
Sockeye brewing my dog.
That was a chum or luskin king.

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Oh, well, weird.
Uh, my top.
Top.
Nice.
Oh look.
My top.
My top.
Everybody take your tops off.
Woo.
You don't wanna see that?
Mm-hmm.
Oh man.
Happy beer.
Very pine forward.
Yeah.
Very, uh, piny and,uh, little mossy to it.
Like a little earthy.
Little earthy.
Yeah.
And almost has a little bitof Metallica on the back end.

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Not like it tastes rusty,but like, got like an irony.
Shitness to it must be allthe blood from the salmons.
Maybe, maybe a hint of Mercury.
Who knows?
Yummy.
Mm-hmm.
It's actually very good.
It's an aggressive beer though.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Definitely.
Like after about two of these,you'd be like, all right, I
gotta switch up to something.
More water like.
Any guys drinking anything?
I was gonna say, speaking of water,three guesses with the rest of
the GTM crew is drinking tonight.

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But in honor of recent summer vacationadventures, I've got a Negroni.
This stuff has got the same proofas gasoline and it's fantastic.
Google translating whatNegroni translates to?
No, mostly compar.
Oh, thank God.
I was close.
I was way off.
Everybody else is drinking water freshfrom their Well, if I remember correctly.

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That is correct.
Dan gets it from the crick.
350 feet below your house or whatever.
There you go.
Hi.
My.
I remember about Mike.
Yeah.
And all his Bronco twos.
That was a below thewaist hit right there.
That's not going.
So, Steve, before you introduce themovie and the cast and whatever, I

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wanna just talk about the opening.
Just the opening for a moment.
Okay.
The music and the score, it sort of setsthe tone for this film and the cast,
the characters that are part of it.
Did anybody else get the Rockford filesvibe from the opening of this movie?
There's a little bit of that in here.
All I remember from the opening,the first two scenes, I guess, him

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driving up and down the road andthen like the, the Camaro trying
to race him, and he's like, no dog.
The songs just did not fit withwhat I was watching on the screen.
Yeah.
But it felt like you all mentionedlike this movie was clearly made in
the seventies and it clearly was notthe opening music Rockford files.
Well, I never watched Rockfordfiles, so you know, I'm out there.
But for those first two like big scenes,I'm like, this does not fit at all.

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I watched this movie on a layover inDetroit 'cause I had that much time
to kill and it was free on Voodoo.
I related to it because I'vedriven Mulholland Drive and I
did it with a buddy of mine.
So shout out to Paul WillamOsky, who lives in la.
We did it in his Porsche, alsoSilver, like the whoa movie.
Whoa, whoa.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, calm down.
So immediately I was relating to this.
I was like, oh, thisis cool, this is cool.

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But I talk about that openingbecause that's where they're
introducing the characters to you.
It's that got that late seventies,early eighties, we're rolling the
credits while the guy's driving downthe road, just like the Rockford files.
So I was sort of like, this isthe moment where Harry Hamlin.
Dennis Hopper, and you know, and Steve,you'll carry the list of the rest
of the stars that are in this movie.

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But I was just like, what am I in for?
Am I in for a treat or amI in for disappointment?
Well, the disappointment for mewas like, during that whole thing,
you, you always got the narrationstuff going, the helicopter shots.
I don't know if they just have iton like some sort of spiral thing
going like, I was getting car sick.
Just watching.
Yeah.
It was like circling, circling,you know, windy roads.
Yeah.
And kind of keep along with that.

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It's like.
But yes, 1980 one's King of the Mountainfrom Director Noel Sek, who see Steve.
Oh, I'm glad you asked.
Over 40 credits, including, um, bestFriends Las Vegas, lady Dreamer,
not to be confused with Silver TreeRacer, we might talk about later.
What, uh, this.
And then tv, movies like RomanHoliday, summer Fantasy Without a Kiss.

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Goodbye.
Born Too Soon.
And guys, what I've instantly addedto our, uh, watch list tornado 1996.
Ooh.
Basically it looks likethe TV Ripoff of Twister.
Yeah.
But, but it stars BruceCampbell and Ernie Hudson.
Oh, man.
You said Bruce Campbell.
I'm in, yeah.
Right.
Hudson.
Sold.
And then he also followed that upwith What kind of mother are you?

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Right.
And three episodes of Charmed.
Oh, but the writing for this, oh my gosh.
This is based on anarticle by David Barry.
Ooh.
Just like the Fast and Furious universe,just like the Fast and Furious universe.
That's what I was hopingfor going to this movie.
That was my expectation.
A fast and Furious or higher, I mean, theentire script is in two loose leaf pages.

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I mean, there's not a lot of dialogue.
Yeah, there's not a lot.
But yeah, basically the David Berrywho wrote the article did that.
He's the editor of 2000Five's Transamerica Killer.
AKA Switch Killer.
Okay.
Ooh, it's only credits on IMDB.
Wonder if it's even thesame person, honestly.
Oh, but gosh, the writer, Lee Chapman.
Who's she?
Who's she?
Whoa.

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Lady writer.
Lady writer.
I know.
For this movie, that'sactually kind of surprising.
I mean, it is.
Uh, yeah.
Episodes of Wild Wild West.
My favorite Martian truck Turner.
Oh, you guys know Truck Turner, right?
Isaac Hayes.
Seventies Blaxploitation.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guaranteed.
10 out 10.
And then what?
I'm sure you guys arefamiliar with Dirty Mary.
Crazy Larry.

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I've heard of that.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a car.
Nut one.
You'll love it.
Okay.
Steel?
No, not the Shaq movie.
The one with Lee Majors.
Okay.
Octagon This and of course, twoepisodes of Walker Texas Ranger.
If you had only said Rockford Viles.
I know, right?
And the other writer, HRChristian, black Mama, white Mama.
Yeah.
Active Vengeance.
It's a rape revenge movie fromthe seventies and this, that's it.

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Wow.
Three and out of the park.
Let's talk about the cast.
Oh my gosh.
Harry Hamlin as Steve, thegreatest name in history.
Harry Hamlin himself.
That's right.
Who's he?
Is he not a freaking G Cliff?
Yeah, I had to look it up too.
He's Perseus and Clash of The Titans.
Yep.
Yay.
105 episodes of LA Law.
15 of madman.

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16 of Mayfair Witches.
I have never had heard of Harry Hamlin.
No.
Well, you guys knoweverything about everything.
You don't know who Harry Amlin is?
No.
Yeah.
He must be a TV actor.
No.
We only watch good movies.
I only watch The Real Clashof The Titans with Liam Nees.
Yeah.
He's also very famously the husbandof a very famous actress, or at

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least she was back in the day.
Ooh, she, well, Lisa Rena, right?
Yeah.
Who?
Who?
He was married to Lisa Rena.
Oh my God.
He's still married to Lisa.
They're still married.
Oh, I know Lisa Rena.
Okay.
The one with the biglip again, the TV star.
Yeah.
Yeah.
From Melrose Place, the bigLip TV star that pops up.
Yeah.
Melrose Place, days of our live.

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Yeah.
Gee, no wonder.
I don't know who eitherof them really are.
Well, she was a model too, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Super into women's fashionand modeling, by the way.
Oh, oh, totally, totally.
All the way in.
Have you heard of Cindy Crawfordand the other who, I don't
even know the other name.
Kathy Ireland as an owner of Alienfrom LA starring Kathy Ireland.
Yes, I am familiar withCindy Crawford as well.

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Okay, so you have heardof female models before.
I am familiar with Kathy Ireland dueto Mr. S Cedar, three thousand's.
Crow being obsessed with her.
There you go.
And Pepsi commercials in the nineties.
Oh, that's Cindy Craw retainer.
Necessary roughness.
There we go.
That's the one I'm thinking of.
The guy's, Dan Haggerty's inthis fucking movie as Rick.
Who's he seeing for a scene or two?
Is that the guy thatlooks like Barry Gibb?

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Yeah, he's Grizzly Adams.
Maybe you've heard of him.
I kept writing down.
Barry Gibbs said this andBarry Gibbs said that.
From the beaches, right?
Yeah.
Uh, you might also know DanHaggerty from one of the greatest
movies ever made Mine Trap.
AKA Danger USA.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
They're like, who?
Yeah.
Who else we got in this?
We got, uh.

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Joseph Bottoms as buddy.
Who's he?
Steve, aside from beinga bottom, let's see.
Uh, using in Black Hole.
Ooh.
22 episodes of the net.
You're telling me JosephBottoms is in black hole?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Right.
Uh, the Dove, hi Ro, in a hotCorvette, one episode of Murder.
She wrote 139 of Santa Barbara and ofcourse 23 episodes of Days of Our Lives.

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So we had a month on set.
So we got a lot of TVactors in this movie so far.
Yeah.
Debra Van Valkenberg as Tina.
She, Steve, well she was in the Warriors.
No, she was Jackie, she was thedaughter on Too close for Comfort.
Yes.
107 episodes of Too Close for Comfort.
Streets of Fire, the Rock.

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Yeah.
From Walter Hill.
Streets of Fire.
So good.
Yeah.
Mean Guns.
Episodes of Quantum Leap, DS Nines,criminal Minds, ghost Whisper,
and of course the Devil's rejects.
Yeah.
Quite the career.
Yeah.
Uh, then there's this little knownactor named, uh, Dennis Hooper.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Hopper.
Hopper.
And it was Cal. Who's he?
He's from Super Mario Brothers.

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Yes.
King Cooper himself.
Super Mario brother.
Oh my God.
You might also know him from.
Speed.
Uh, easy Rider Water World.
Red Rock West, blue Velvet, and others.
Do it for Van Gogh.
Baby.
Yeah.
Blue Velvet.
I remember Blue Velvet.
Yeah.
Do it for Van Gogh.
Well, that's the one where IsabellaRossini streaks the quad, right?
Yes.
Mm-hmm.

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Alright guys.
And then now we're gettingto a couple people.
We have to bring up.
Definitely a, uh, sneezing,you'll miss him kind of thing.
Blue Ribbon Seymour Castle asBarry Tanner, the record executive.
Who's he?
Steve.
220 plus credits.
Probably know him best though aslike Sam Ketchum and Dick Tracy.
Yep.
Uh, dirt from Beer League andwe saw him last week in It could

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happen to you as Jack Gross.
The Definitely not Trump.
Yeah.
The definitely not Trump.
Who cons Nick Cage's.
Wife spoilers.
And also guys, Cassandra Petersonis in this movie as the neighbor.
Who's she?
Steve.
Anybody know this one?
Cassandra Peterson?
No, but she's the one thatshows up in the 90, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The night.
And you're like, Hey,stop knocking at the dog.

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Whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The, the real sexy looking one.
That's Elvira Mistress of the Dark.
No.
Yes.
What.
Yeah.
By the way, sight withoutthe wig, I'd still get it.
Oh, to this day,
I know she's like 72.
I'm all right.
Steve would be fine with that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's cool.
Wow.
I would've never guessed thatfrom seeing her in the movie.

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Holy smokes.
And that's the way she wanted it.
Yeah.
Like she wanted to be able towalk around and not be ogled.
Now that I think about it in that scene,she posed like Elvira with her leg
out with the split dress and mm-hmm.
The mighty or whatever.
Then now it makes more sense becauseI was like, this is so random.
We'll get to it.
And then, uh, we also have WilliamForesite in this movie as Big Tom.
Can anyone tell me whoBig Tom was in this movie?

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No, I missed him.
Is he the guy looking for the Breaker bar?
Oh, maybe, yeah.
One of the guys at the mechanicshop, maybe, I don't know.
Hey guys, you know William Forsyth?
Uh, he was, he too was in Dick Tracy.
Stone Cold raising ArizonaDevil's rejects, virtuosity,
Savage, Don Cloak and Dagger.
Two Bigelow Male Gigolo.
Wasn't he the guy that wastrying to buy the music?
No, that's Tanner.
Yeah, it's Barry Tanner.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
That's the Seymour Castle.
Barry Tanner wrote the music.
Wasn't Barry the friend?
No.
No.
Buddy wrote the music.
Oh, buddy.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so the three guysare Steve, buddy and Roger.
Right?
Those those were the The trio.
Yes.
And two of 'em look exactly the sameexcept for one is Frow than the other.
Yeah.
They all have perms.

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Yeah, well of course, of course.
Because it's 1981, everybody has persI thought Roger was Jerry Seinfeld.
Yes.
Yes.
He's the Jerry Seinfeld looking guy.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
We we were calling him,uh, seventies Adam Driver.
Yes.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, hundred percent.
Steve was calling himseventies Adam Driver.
I feel like this guy had way too muchcharisma to be Adam Driver Scott fired.
It was a duchovny.

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What are we talking?
Well, okay.
Knowing Harry Hamlin, I keptcalling him night rider 'cause
didn't he look like a ripoff?
Hasselhoff?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
He definitely looked likehasselhoff off Temu dollar story.
Hasselhoff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the last one I wanna pointout friend of the podcast,
Anthony Delonis as gang member.
Yeah.
Uh, we think he was one of thefour guys, you know, when they

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steal their car at the beginning.
Oh yeah.
Like tossing the keys back and forthin front of the police station.
Uhhuh.
Yeah.
That they just got bailed out if, yeah.
Yeah, we'll look about that.
Same.
But, uh, I think he was one of them.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Again, Stacey Peterson, friend ofthe podcast, you might know him from
Masters of the Universe as Blade, aMaster Swordsman and Whip Master and
Horse Rider choreographed and trainedlike every amazing sword and whip scene

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you've ever watched in the last 40 years.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
He's like taught all the, uh, catwomen how to use the whips and whatnot.
Yeah, he's amazing.
Wow.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
We all gotta start somewhere.
1980 one's King of the Mountain.
We watched this guy on Tubi.
Did you guys uh, watchit all on Voodoo or Tubi?
Voodoo?
It was free this month with ads.
Ooh, free on Tubi two with ads.

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And, uh, Fandango athome, whatever that is.
Well, voodoo is Fandango now, but yeah.
Oh, is it?
Oh shit.
Okay.
There we go.
That makes sense.
But yeah, so yeah, as we mentionedbefore, we started off with some dizzying
helicopter shots of Mulholland Driveand uh, we get some narration like,
oh yeah, Mulholland Drive 23 milesfrom end and it's the only place I
felt safe and all the shit for sure.

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I thought for a second thiswas gonna start out as like
a zombie apocalypse movie.
'cause that's all we've beenwatching for the podcast this year.
That's great.
You got into town and everybody wasstill there and I'm like, the fuck is
this, the population's still alive.
Did they drop the bomb yet?
No.
So what I thought was when Lee Majorscrossed into California, much can land
at the end of last Chase Free California.

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This is free California now.
This is part two of the last Chasepicks up where the other one left off.
Perfect.
That makes sense because thepolice force isn't exactly
the, the wisest bit of people.
This is like a, a few deputies ina small town kind of operations.
Local police force tryingto handle shit like this.
It's like Keystone cops.
You think we shouldmess with them tonight?

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Yeah.
Let's go get 'em.
10 minutes of anotherbad helicopter scene.
By the way, how was he ableto hear them talking to him?
Why he turned his lights off?
Yeah.
Oh, uh, the helicoptershave like a speaker on it.
Oh, loudspeakers.
Yeah.
But yeah, but he's too busycranking up Renegade by Sticks.
Yeah, that's right.
Is up.

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He finally found me,which is a great song.
Like that's the song youshould be listening to while
you're evading the police.
Yeah.
The most badass song of 1981.
Definitely not 1976, like Shut up.
They moved on to Mr. Roboto at this point.
All right, I'll blast it tomorrow out.
Running the Cops for you, babe.
Steelers fan.
Anyway,

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so this is the race.
That Brad mentioned between theTrans Am the yellow one and the 3 56
Outlaw that Harry Hamlin's driving.
Steve is driving in this openingsequence and he gets arrested.
But while all this is going down, weget our first glimpse of Dennis Hopper.
Tell me he isn't being a complete creeper.
Oh dude, he's Dennis Hopper.

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Isn't that how he is?
Wait, wait.
Was it Dennis Hopper or Tommy Chong?
I couldn't tell.
Oh, well, fun fact, only oneof those gentlemen is banned
from the country of Australia.
It's not Tommy Chong.
I would've put my money on both ofthem being banned from Australia,
banned for behaving badly whilefilming a movie in Australia

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that all tracks for both of them.
Uhhuh.
Yeah.
So have that opening raise.
They get arrested or whatever.
They have to get the $200to bail 'em out or whatever.
This, this is where they go outto their car and there's another
car parked, I guess, too closefor them to pull out or whatever.
The friend buddy, he's like, Heyman, could you just back your car up?
Oh yeah, let me get my keys.
Oh, they start playing.

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Keep away like their 12year olds or something.
And then this is when Steve Hero of ourmovie, who has already been to jail for,
you know, living life a quarter mileat a time though 23 miles at a stretch.
And as buddy points out.
Three times in three months.
He's on a first name basis withthe cops there in la right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So tells the guy to jump inand like roll up the windows.
Yeah.
And then hot wires it and they drive offand I'm instantly the friend, I'm like,

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well, you just left your car there, so.
Alright.
I wanna ask Dan, what didhe hot wire that car with?
Because it looked like he took apiece of chewing gum wrapper and
then shoved it up in the dashboard.
Yes, I have actually seen that in othermovies where they take, I guess they use
the chewing gum wrapper to hot wire cars.
I don't know.
Is that how you do it, man?

(18:50):
Man.
Dan in theory would work if it's the olderstyle switches where the wires are screwed
into the back of the switch assemblyand use the gum wrapper to jumper it.
The problem is as soon as youremove it, all that does is send the
signal out for a starter to spin.
It doesn't turn the power on for theignition, so it would crank, but it
technically wouldn't start in real life.
Ah.
But it's a Mopar product, not a Chevy.
So does that make a difference?

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It does not.
Okay.
Was it a roadrunner or was it a charger?
I was trying to figure it out.
I swear it was a Dukes of hazard car.
Like it was like an orange charger.
Let me take a look and see.
Oh, he's got the database.
Don't forget.
Oh shit.
Oh, that's right.
There we go.
I wanna say it was a Plymouthbecause of the silver plating
on the lights in the back.
You get a really weird glimpse of it.
To Steve's point, the silhouette isdefinitely of a charger, but it's like,

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was it a Plymouth or was it a Dodge?
So the car in front of the, uh, policestation was a 1970 Dodge Super Bee.
Oh, even better.
Even better.
That's a nice rare, but yeah,basically they, uh, pull off their,
the stolen car to the studio tofurther incriminate more people.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, in their grand theft auto.
And then we cut to a lipsync session.
She was not lip syncing.
I wanted to know was sheactually singing or not?

(19:55):
Yes.
The credits said she was singing.
So whether she was lipsyncing in the scene or not.
Okay.
The first 20 seconds, or though theywere way off, like I don't know if
it was just wasn't synced up or what,whether the scene was real or not.
Her credits say she was singing the song.
To Steve's point, I thinkwhenever they panned to Roger.
He was trying to sing the lyrics,like silently sing a different song.

(20:18):
A hundred percent.
Uh, see, he was not evenat the same concert.
He was just singing something completelydifferent when it was showing her singing.
At first it was really roughand then it kind of synced up.
So I was like, okay, I can kind of see it.
But I don't know, I just assumed itwas like an Ashley Simpson thing.
Can we talk about thesong, the whole damn song?
Exactly.
The entire song Against All Odds.

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The whole damn song.
No, it it, it, it was a prettycatchy little song for 1977.
Don't say the lyrics.
I don't know what shewants out of this song.
Yeah.
Does she wanna be a one night stand?
Does she want it to be morethan a one night stand?
She wants to be a dangerous stranger.
Exactly.
Stranger danger.
But she's coming.
I bet she is.
She's coming back or whatever,whatever the line was.

(20:59):
Oh, she's coming.
Yeah.
Looking at Steve will do that.
Wow.
The problem I had with the four and ahalf minutes that this took, because
she sung the entire song, was everytime she looked at somebody, she kept
looking like more distraught becauseshe kept looking at Steve, right?
Like she was getting creeped out.
Steve's just creeper eye in her.
It was cringey.
And then after the song they'relike, Hey Steve, meet Tina.

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And they're like, all in.
I guess just that intense physicalattraction of a, a beautiful
stranger you just stumbled upon.
They're like hanging out.
They're at the studio, smoking andstaring and drinking, and it's.
Singing, and I thought it was gonna turninto Caligula throughout the whole movie.
There was a lot of substance abuse.
I just wanna say that.
What?
Right.

(21:40):
Sex and rock and roll.
It was the era.
Yeah.
I I, I guess this was the eighties, man.
This was hairbands the seventies, it wasthe downward curve, but there was still
sex, drugs, and rock and roll, I guess.
Yeah.
This was shot in the late sixties, right?
That's what we're talking about.
1948. Yeah.
Before AIDS was invented also,doesn't somebody have a fiance?

(22:02):
Oh, we'll get to that.
Don't you worry.
Yeah, we'll get to that.
And I never, never speak of that again.
You know?
Okay.
So he doesn't have his carand he's got a bummer ride.
So to your point, they getreally chummy really fast.
And Tina, which is Jackie from TooClose for comfort, whatever her real
name is, Deborah decides to drivehim home in Colombo's, eo, hold on.

(22:22):
Okay.
I'm glad you went there because Ialmost turned the freaking movie off.
I was like, I'm not watching this.
I'm not doing this.
It's not happening because as fans ofour show know, when the Citro and DS is
involved, it's like, I could burn the air.
I hate those things so bad.
So if I was in his shoes, Iwould've dumped her ass immediately.

(22:43):
Oh, you drive a Ciro and I'm gonna walk.
But Eric, did you see that rack?
I'm not getting in that car.
It's not happening.
The rack on top of the car or her rack?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Either one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
If you had said no, you would'vemissed the jack in the box.
Yeah.
Good old Jack Daniel's inthat glove compartment.
Jack in the glove box.

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Again, substance abuse, all over theplace, drinking, driving, moving.
No problem.
Yep.
And I do like that shedrives them to her place.
Right.
Like instantly.
I'm like, all right, good for you, girl.
Yeah.
And there's like nothing on the walls,there's no pictures, no nothing.
It's always is like you,uh, you just move in.
No, you move out.
No, this is just how I live.
You know?
Where cereal kill people.

(23:25):
Here help me lay down this, uh, tarp.
And, uh, do you likeHuey Lewis in the news?
Yeah.
What, what was, what was her line?
It was, she said, I'mwaiting for my furniture.
And he said, oh, whenare you gonna get it?
And she said, well, myfurniture's waiting for my money.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Classy.
So then's 6:00 AM andeverybody's starting to sober up.
Remember like, oh yeah, shit, I'msupposed to be at work in 20 minutes.

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And then Steve comes back to thestudio, I guess do his victory lap.
And this is where we're introducedto his girlfriend, Iris.
Oh, I'm sorry, fiancee Iris.
Little Blanc Hick.
We're only gonna see in thisscene Uhhuh Uhhuh could have been
completely cut out from the film.
Yeah.
And he's playing, you know, Atari videogames as is tradition at the time.

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It's just one of those things like, yeah,he's sitting there playing and talking
about like, Hey, so yeah, you, youguys got a date set, blah, blah, blah.
He is like, yes.
Something like that.
I don't know.
We're probably gonnamove in together anyway.
Cut to some reckless driving by DennisHopper, Uhhuh and Steve's like, so Dennis
Hopper's gonna kill all of them, right?
Right.
Serial killer.
Yes.
It's like, go.
But we find out, not only is DennisHopper, Al, he's a mechanic, but

(24:31):
so is uh, Steve and Grizzly Adamsand I. Guess big bomb this time.
I did not know they were mechanics.
Yeah, I thought they all just hungout at this shop doing shop things.
Yeah.
Out front it was like pro performancemechanics or something like that too.
It very easily could have been granttouring Motorsport or something like that.
So it's like, oh yeah, this isa garage where, you know, these

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guys fix their vehicles for races.
They work on Porsches except forthe one guy that has a Chevy.
Yeah.
Well, you know, you knowexpensive it is to rent that
many Porsches for a film shoot.
He's the new guy.
Did you see the sign in thebackground behind the Corvette?
Like when it was in the shop?
It says like the small, fast and expensiverepair shop or something like that.
It was like a big poster behind the car.

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I thought it was reallykind of ironic, huh?
This is where there's a scene wherethe other guy, maybe it's Big Tom
or whatever the guy's name is, thatwe can't identify who's pushing that
nine 11 from behind the race car.
And Dennis Hopper's just standing theretalking to him and smoking a cigarette,
walking alongside him, making the oldman do all the work and he is just
huffing and trying to push that carinto the shop and all this kinda thing.

(25:34):
I wrote down this line as I do, 'cause Itake copious notes and he goes, you know
what's worse than a car that won't run?
Holding up a dead body?
Yeah.
And you're like, what?
That's some Dennis Hopperimprov right there.
I guarantee it.
I thought before that he said, youknow what's worse than a car that won't
run is pushing a car that won't run.
But then he says, holding up a dead body.

(25:54):
Yeah.
And then holding up a dead body.
Yeah.
Right after that.
Yeah.
The pile of goo that used to beyour friend, he's like, starts going
to like a Rambo rant or something.
Well, the bandana didn't help either.
Nothing is over.
Never Tommy Chong.
Nothing is over, man.
But then he is like, oh, hey Steve.
Some uh, some chickcame by looking for you.
Yeah.
What'd you tell her?
Told her you got a small dick.

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Like, yeah, that's a,that's a coworker brand.
That sounds right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That checks out.
It's like, thanks, bro.
The dialogue was horrendous.
Yeah, absolutely.
I feel like half of it might have beenimprov, just kinda like trying to shoot
the shit or whatever, but then they'relike, oh wait, these guys can't improv.
Just act like you guys havebeen working together for years.
What's working man?
You gotta, we gotta leave it in though.

(26:37):
We gotta make it a full 90 minutes.
20 takes and that was the best one.
And it was about thistime I, I was like, okay.
Kind of unlikeable lead character.
Yeah.
Cheating around.
Has a job as a mechanic, youknow, a bike, whatever this is
silver Dream racer, isn't it?
I wonder if this is gonna havea similar ending, spoilers.
It kind of does.
Mm Oh you guys.

(26:58):
Silver Dream racer.
You ever like just get sofrustrated with the movie you like
you're trying to call it Bluff?
Like, Hey, like if this movie had anyballs, it would do this, but it doesn't.
I was doing that during, soI was heckling this movie and
it's like everybody in this is.
Been dead for years.
Nobody cares.
You hear that?
Harry Hamlin, he's still alive.
Silver Dream racer.
Called My Bluff.
And now I cannot heckle terriblemovies like this because they

(27:20):
just might call my Bluff Theater.
So yeah, that nightSteve's driving with Tina.
I don't know, GI Giving Expositionor whatever exposition darling.
It has to go somewhere, right?
And he is like, you gotta ride the edgeif you want to win and blah, blah blah.
And I'm just like Canyon inside and out.
I'm only free when I'm on the canyon.
By the way, you met Cal earlier, right?

(27:40):
That guy that said a small dick.
Yeah, he bought it like 15 years agoand they had to completely rebuild
him and now he's too scared to ride.
Fierce.
Catch you.
I'm, I'm picturing Cal's likethe $6 million man or something
like being pieced together.
We made him better,faster, stronger, higher.
He's the six Budweiser man.
Steve, even as a car guy, I wasthrowing up a little bit in the

(28:01):
back of my throat this entire time.
I was like, this is so bad.
Yeah, this is so cringey.
However.
Credit where credit is due.
I didn't take any issue with thesound effects with the Porsche.
It was actually correct.
Oh, okay.
Oh, thank God.
That was gonna be my next question.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you.
I'm glad they matched up.
I took issue with other carsthough, but not with the Porsche.

(28:22):
It's all good.
Mount Mandan is our, isour resident dragster.
Is that how you feel whenyou race for pink slips?
Is it just like that rush thatmakes it worth living or are
you more like a practical?
I've never raced for pinkslip, so I can't really give.
Ta Tanya, are you a pinking?
Slipper?
No.
You ever throw on those ping slippers?
I was gonna say, Steve, aren't youthe one who uh, ended up with a car

(28:44):
that you had to take the front seatout of to drive to help out a friend?
Well, yeah, but racing sounds likethe plot to Police Academy too.
We're not the ones living at the edge,so we have no frame of reference.
Right.
To personify with the leadcharacter of this movie then.
Right.
Brad has some drag racingexperience ever race for, oh, Brad.
Oh my god.
Brad.
Race for Pinks.
Brad, I've never raced for Pinks List, butI have raced for money a hundred bucks.

(29:05):
That and more.
It's always exciting until you haveto hand over the money you just lost.
I was gonna say, is itlike what Clarkson says?
Does it give you the fizz?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what it does.
Well, Brad, if it's any consolation,whoever won that money from
you, just put it right back intotheir car immediately after.
After a thousand percent.
No, they put it intothe next person's car.

(29:26):
Oh.
So yeah.
So yeah, they're driving alongand then, uh, that's right.
His buddy that like pulled alongand was like, Hey, you wanna a race?
Yeah.
Winter takes the girl.
And I'm expecting Tina to be like,what the fuck are you talking about?
But no, she's like,yeah, we gets the girl.
What?
Then he starts howling like BurgesMeredith did in the last movie.
And you're like, what thehell is happening here?

(29:48):
I expect him to be racing.
And he is like, oh, that's right baby.
Just like old times.
Oh yeah.
I'm just gonna slide it in real quick.
What Burgess please.
Oh.
But yeah, they race and then, uh, theyget hot dogs at that, uh, train car di
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait, wait.
Before we'd slip into the hot dog, heturns to her and he goes, hit that drop.

(30:11):
He goes, you feel that vibration?
Where is this going?
This is like danger in a manifold.
Yeah.
His muffler fell off.
He's like, you feel that?
What?
Whoa.
The whole car runs over its own buffer.
It was really random.
It does come back lateras we come to find out.
It was, it had no point to the story,but it was just like we had to add that
in, like it really mattered at all.
Again, maybe some ad-libbingthere, but I just thought it was

(30:33):
funny and she's like, no, I don'tknow what you're talking about.
Just keep driving me.
And then they had that diner, they'regetting hot dogs or whatever because
it was all about his journey intorealizing he doesn't need to be
the king of the mountain anymore.
Is that what this movie's about?
But he wasn't the king yet.
I mean, we find out the third person inthe trio, Roger the roommates or whatever.
He was the driver too.

(30:54):
But he doesn't do it anymore.
'cause I don't know,maybe he's the smart one.
He is the producer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a music producer of his.
Friends.
But yeah, we get Steve talking about,oh yeah, I could drive that course
blindfolded and I'm waiting for, ohGod, is this gonna be the finale?
Mm-hmm.
He's gonna have to drive it blind.
Like, I don't know, Dennis Hopperthrow salt in his eyes or something.
Ah.
I feel that tone, that whole dinerscene was cringey, felt forced.

(31:17):
The acting was just, it was bad.
Yeah.
I'll say it.
Just about every scene inthis movie is kind of cringey.
'cause they're not great actors.
You know what I mean?
I mean, de Dennis Hopper's, Dennis Hopper,you know what you're getting with him.
But like Harry Hamlet,Steve Buddy, and Roger.
It's kind of just likeTom, Dick and Harry, right?
You're like, whatever.
Tina's kind, meh.

(31:37):
She's not like really acharacter, it seems like.
Just kind of there.
Yeah.
What about, uh, Iris, and whereis she the rest of the movie?
Maybe she's serving the hotdog, I assumeshe's going back to high school, right.
God, would that be outtaplace in this movie?
Not really, no.
And after the diner scene, thefollowing day is when he drives back up?
Mm-hmm.
Walked that corner where hefelt the vibration or whatever.

(31:57):
He's looking for his muffler.
Yeah.
In all honestly, it was like alot of times we go to tracks, do a
track, walk you out there and youlook for the little stuff that you
don't necessarily feel in the car.
So he was trying to seesomething different.
'cause something felt different.
So it made sense for mewhen he went out to do that.
At the moment in the scene, I'm like,what the hell is he talking about?
A vibration.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm with you there.
Having done many track walksmyself, I immediately identified

(32:19):
with that and everybody else isgoing, what the hell is he doing?
Why is he squatting down and lookingthe asphalt and all that kinda stuff.
For me as a track guy, I got that.
To your point, it was completelyout of sequence with the movie.
Like again, another scene thatyou could have just cut out.
You wouldn't have lost anything.
You wouldn't have gainedanything by leaving it in either.
So it is what it is.
But I identified with it.
I see that.
I think it does on though, becausehow that's around the turn where

(32:43):
he decides he's letting No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll get to that.
Don't spoil it.
Don't spoil it.
Yeah.
My whole thing with that whole scene wherehe was walking that road or whatever, is
like, does nobody use mole hull and drive?
Nope.
Because he's out there for like asolid three minutes, no cuts, whatever.
And I'm like, okay, well obviously theygot the street shut down the whole night
when they're doing the races and stuff.
I'm like, nobody's gettinghome through Mulholland Drive.
High atop the mall home and viewshelf like nobody uses that road.

(33:06):
Have you been on it?
Oh yeah.
I mean, it's sort of the road to nowhere.
It is a canyon road, theroad to my mansion, friend.
To that end, how many cars should beon that road at the end of the day?
Right.
Not too, too many.
I mean, I mean it's like early morning,like maybe, I'm assuming it's like the
shortcut to get to work for some people.
Like, you know, avoiding the fiveor the 4 0 5 or whatever, two 10.
There was that Lincoln that came byand sort of honked at him as he was

(33:28):
squatted down looking at the road.
So somebody was there.
Oh one?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well yeah, go back to Cal the garage.
It's like talking with Steveor whatever and uh, he is like,
Hey, I felt something last night.
Like, yeah, I'll tell you what you felt.
You felt fear.
It's that fear creeping up inyou, man, your car's like a
runaway knife and the thrill.
It's a thrill maker, man.

(33:48):
Okay.
Okay.
This was the beginning of some of the mostnonsensical dialogue from Dennis Hopper.
The rest of the movie, it justsets the tone for every time
he's in scene and I'm just like,oh, did they just let him loose?
They let him off the leashand does whatever he wants.
It seemed like he didn't have a scriptthrough the whole movie in my life, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He is Dennis Hopper.
He must have been high because I waslike, dialogue makes no sense whatsoever.

(34:11):
It's completely non-sequitur.
It's like what?
I mean it's legit.
He probably was fucked up.
'cause he is drinking beers anddrinking whiskey simultaneously, like
chasing the, the whiskey with beer.
So, well, I mean, he's on the jobso he, he gotta say semi sober
anyway, so I always try and thenlike, I dunno, somebody says like,
watch out for him and I swear theysaid, fucking your ass or whatever.
Or did I, there's some random stuffthrown into the dialogue for sure.

(34:35):
Yeah.
'cause then it was like ratedpg, but I swear it was like, you
know, you gotta watch out for him.
Fucking your ass ridiculous.
So then I wrote downsandwiches and music time.
That's what comes next.
Yeah.
Oh God.
So yeah, we get to the apartmentwhere the, the Holy Trinity live
lives, you know, Steve Buddy and,uh, Roger This the cast of Seinfeld.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

(34:56):
George, Jerry and Kramer.
Yeah.
Except Jerry's balls deep in Julia LouiseDreyfus while, uh, while George and
Cosmo are, uh, making giant sandwichesand like teasing each other with them.
Oh, these guys are in love.
Yeah.
I, I was waiting for thatto be the hookup at the end.
Honestly.
Like, like I just can't quit you, Roger.
You can have all of my sandwich.

(35:17):
It's so weird.
Screechy.
And then, oh yeah, this is whereIzzy pointed out, is that a
nipple pillow on their couch?
It is Pillow.
Yes it is.
Yes, it's, and there was a couplemannequin off on the side earlier too.
Yep.
This so reminds me of how I livedmy early years of the military.
Like almost no furniture, just a beercooler there with beer in it regularly.
Sandwich meats.

(35:37):
Hey, you have the giant constructionspool is like a table Uhhuh,
couple milk crates as seats.
Yeah.
He's got that now.
So Yes.
I mean, yeah.
But they're not thequality they used to be.
That's right.
And then, yeah, we got a nice little,uh, improv Romeo and Julia se Julia
session from, uh, fucking Buddy and Roger.
That's like at the piano,like Romeo and Julie.

(36:01):
I was waiting for it to eithergo sort of Bohemian Rhapsody or
Sherry Lewis was gonna show upwith the little lamb chop puppet.
You know, it was gonna go inone of these two directions.
Yeah.
So they're just annoying enough tocock block Steve and uh, so yeah.
Then what happens?
We head back to the mountain, Steve andTina start going into their backstories

(36:22):
as we're down skip cut to night racing.
Yep.
So now Steve in his 3 56 outlawgoes against the Sunburst Magnum
pi, the yellow 3 0 8 Ferrari.
That's why I was hoping theywould play the theme song.
Right.
So we gotta capture some of thatMagnum pi goodness in the movie too.
But that race was pathetic.

(36:42):
What he crashes like in thethird turn or something like
that, he's like off in the weeds.
Like that's the end of it.
Well, what do you mean?
That was pathetic.
That son of a bitch took my medal,says Cal Uhhuh, which is like, wait,
he beat his record time at King of theMountain or on Mulholland Drive, I guess.
Is that what he was crying about?
By the only person that was timingit, which was Cal. 'cause who's
keeping track of this stuff, right?

(37:03):
I mean, like.
Whatever.
Yeah.
So then we go back to the studio and,uh, Roger, he's, uh, he's pitching
in his songs or whatever to, uh,radio executive, uh, Seymour Castle.
Barry Tanner.
That's right.
Tanner.
He's like, Hey, yeah, this song's great.
I'd like to, uh, buy it from you for, uh,the Sack Cadillac Blue, and like mm-hmm.
Well, no, no, it's, it's,it's for my songwriter buddy.
And you know, you haveto, you like sign him.

(37:24):
It's not just for the song.
And he is like, look, yeah buddy.
He's not a songwriter until I sell him.
So you do a couple songs or whateverand then, uh, you know, we see from
there and then he is like, don'tworry, you didn't sell him out.
You bought yourself in.
Mm-hmm.
I'm like, is that supposedto make me feel better?
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Also like, oh my God, this guy's doublespeak is like infuriating and so accurate

(37:46):
that like, this guy's got real talent.
This is a deal maker.
This is a, this is a hit on our hands,but also he's not really that good, so
I'm just gonna buy this for nothing.
Scumbag, that's what he was.
Oh yeah.
Meanwhile, the, uh, the rest ofthe gang are, uh, just waiting and
drinking and stacking up lots andlots of beers at the Hollywood Bowl.
Yeah.
And they have an empty stadiumapparently to play around with.

(38:09):
Is that just open access, like all hours?
There's not a concert.
No, babe.
They're playing a gig,but nobody showed up.
That's the real thing.
I think it's b and not a in thiscase, but, uh, that night Roger,
uh, shows up the apartment, all shitfacing drunk and knocking on the
door is like Steve did the door.

(38:31):
And then this is where we get the sexyElvira neighbors stepping out like, Hey,
will you shut the fuck up down there.
I'm trying to sleep.
So much more clarity on this scene now.
Thank you for filling in that gap.
I don't think I would've slept.
Well, not knowing, becauseshe was yelling down like an
angry New Yorker or something.
Right.
And so you're expecting it to belike, you know, old lady, like
Hurler in her hair or some shit.
But then it's like, oh, my hot redhead.

(38:51):
Maybe she's looking for some action.
I don't know why else youwould walk out in that outfit.
I was thinking she wasthe Lady of the Night.
I was like, oh, I mean, theydo live in that neighborhood.
And Tina said earlier, oh, thisis Valentino's old place, like
a Playboy mansion kind of thing.
And then it was like something abouther either working at night or she
sleeps at night or something like that.
I was like, there was somethingreference to the neighbor
wearing sunglasses at night.

(39:12):
Definitely a thousand percent.
So I was like, whatever.
Okay.
I just let it.
Slide.
But now again, with the lens ofElvira, this makes way more sense.
Well, the stands without known asEl Elvira, like your thought, like
the Lady of the Night type thing.
I was like, wait, is, isn'tthis how porno movies start?
Yeah, it did have that vibe.
It really did.
Hello?
I hear you have problem with pipes.

(39:34):
Here's your hot and spice sassy pizza.
Do you order the large Italian?
Sorry.
So then Steve eventually answersthe door and Roger's like,
let's go for a drive, man.
No.
What's, what's wrong?
What's going on?
Let's go for a drive.
Let's go for a drive.
And I'm like, just fucking tell him.
So they go for a drive musicalinterlude, and he doesn't tell him.
So then the next morning, you know,buddies, there it is, uh, piano
singing his new song or whatever.

(39:54):
And he almost had to do the wholedamn four minutes of that one too.
Yep.
Steven, Roger kind ofshow up and wait it out.
And then, uh, he's like,yeah, talk to the record exec.
And he is like, yeah, I figuredhe didn't call immediately.
He said he is gonna pass.
Like, no, no.
He wants you to be a songwriter, butit's gonna be covered by other bands.
But yeah, no, I heard that's song fun.
That's for.

(40:15):
That's our song.
Yeah.
But you know, this ishow you like get in man.
And then when those are hits,they come to you for more hits.
But in fact you get in with my friends.
Yeah.
It's just a whole awkward conversation.
'cause it's like, wait, I thoughtit was a different situation.
Maybe I just don't understand.
The music industry probablyhas a lot to do with it.
You don't understand friends, Steve.
That's the problem.
This is how friends talk to each other.
True.
That's true.
I don't have friends.
You've never had a man lover.

(40:36):
Men lovers are very emotional creatures.
Where is this going?
These guys are lovers.
Yeah, there's a conversation betweenman, lover to man lover and man lover.
'cause there's three of 'em there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tanya, you can back me up on this, right?
Men are very emotional creatureswhen they're your lovers.
Somebody ask me a question,
sorry, stop listening.

(40:56):
A couple minutes ago, hot pod right here.
Hot pod.
I'm gonna take that as ayes and let's keep going.
No further questions.
The prosecution rests.
Alright.
Well luckily, God damnit, we've hadzero charisma for like 30 seconds,
so we cut to back to the garageand Cal is just losing his shit.
He is, uh, going around, oh, he beat myrecord man, and fucking he stole my medal.

(41:21):
Blah, blah, blah.
Steve, you bitch ass, you broke my record.
But you're a coward.
You don't know how to drive.
Then Grizzly Adams like, has to comein and like break up their fight.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait.
This is my favorite part.
This is the breaker part wherethe guy who looks like, oh, geez.
Looks like Larry from the Three Stoogesshows up Dennis Hopper's on the grinder
with a piece of like angle iron doingnothing, and he taps him on the shoulder.

(41:43):
He is like, man, I'mlooking for a breaker bar.
And then he starts going nutsand he's trying to pick a fight.
And that's when Barry Gibb comesin and tries to break it up.
Mm-hmm.
And I wrote down the dialogue andI put hyphens in for every pause
that Dennis Hopper used becauseI thought it was intriguing.
He says, and I quote, he's drunkwith his greed of his youth.
Speed.
Stop rhyming.
You know what that means?

(42:04):
Well, I'm not crazy, man.
Yeah.
And I put, are you sure?
Yeah.
Holy shit.
Like that was the dialogue in sequenceagain, they just let him off the
hook and let him do whatever he want.
Yeah, because nobody wrote that.
There's no way anybody wrote that.
No, no, no.
That's spur of the moment, man.
That's three lines of Coke in,isn't that how he is in every movie?
Mm-hmm.

(42:24):
Do you guys remember thatcommercial from when we were kids?
I think it was like thenineties and Dennis Hopper.
Yes.
It was like a shoe commercial.
And he's like, it's his footprint, man.
It's his footprint.
Right.
Do you guys remember that?
Yes.
Yeah, but it wasn't a Jordan shoe.
It was like, was it Shaq or something?
Yeah, something like that.
Right?
You Google it.
It was unreal.
Dennis.
I've always associated him with that.

(42:44):
It's his footprint, man.
His footprint, man.
Bruce Smith, Nike.
Oh yeah, there.
Bruce Smith, the NFLplayer, and Michael Irvin.
I don't recognize Dallas Cowboys.
He apparently did a whole.
Set of them.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it was like a Nike thing or whatever?
Yeah, it was for Nike.
I don't know.
We were talking, he's no Mars Blackman.
That's all I'm saying.
Recently on the pod, we wereactually talking about old

(43:06):
commercials and remembering Tommy Vu.
Oh yeah.
Why so poor?
Why you not rich like me?
And before anybody thinks that'sracist, guys, pulp the commercial
on YouTube and tell me I didjust do what he did on Tommy Vu.
All right, well, enough of that, we gottacut to the, uh, record exec party at the
music studio or whatever the hell's goingon, I guess the celebration party for

(43:26):
signing a song or whatever's going on.
And my next questionis, where's the fiance?
She's done, dude.
Oh, okay.
Did she leave?
Did they have a, a deletedscene where they broke it?
No.
Okay.
I think that was the breakup scene.
I was so confused for a second.
Grabbed her stuff and leftearly on in the movie.
I thought that was her ending.
But they were talking aboutsetting a date or whatever.

(43:46):
Eh, Steve, she had to goback to her home planet.
She pulled a Poochie.
She had to pull a Poochie.
No, I was really confused for a second.
'cause I thought he said,where's the Beyonce?
What?
Did I miss something in this movie?
You were confused.
You thought it was Valerian.
That space movie whereshe dances and transforms.
Yeah.

(44:06):
Yeah.
Oh, valerian In the Cityof a Thousand Planets.
I like that movie.
Speaking of Zero Charisma.
Oh my God, that movie has zero.
That could have been a cool movie,but not one character in it is
interesting in the least bit.
I kinda like Rihanna.
You like the robot, we get it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So then, uh, I don't know, we seeTina being introduced to Titus's
mom from the, uh, the series,Titus and the Trio's all together.

(44:30):
They're having a goodtime and they're like.
They instantly see each otherlike, Hey man, we should go
to the Hill, Mulholland Drive.
And I'm like, what?
What?
What the fuck are we talking about?
You're at a record party with blow asfar as the eye can see, and you're like,
yeah, let's get up on the hill and,I don't know, drink and drive Uhhuh.
Yeah, that's addiction my friend.
Get help.
We cut to a completely uselessscene of Harry Hamlin arguing

(44:53):
with a parking attendant of him.
What?
That scene, you don't remember that?
So Buddy leaves and goesto the mountain, right?
He takes his Mustang and he takesoff and he heads up to the mountain.
Steve, Harry Hamlinrealizes that Buddy left.
And he's like, oh my God, where did he go?
He goes outside and he's arguing witha parking attendant about moving.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That car out of the way.
But Eric, why did Buddy leave?
Oh, because he feels likehe's getting ripped off.

(45:14):
Oh, 'cause he is.
'cause he meets Tanner and Tanner'slike, oh, hey, you're buddy.
All right.
I'm not gonna make this mistaketwice, because he thought
Steve was buddy earlier.
'cause they, yeah.
Look like they're twin brothersbecause of the pers and he basically
spills the beans into like, oh yeah,thanks for selling your four songs.
So the Cadillac Blue can do them.
And he is like, wait, whatare you talking about?
Like, oh, Roger, you didn't tell him.
Oh, anyway, it's gonna be great.

(45:34):
You're gonna do greatthings in this thing.
I gotta go, I gotta get some blow.
And then your buddy's like, oh,you, you fucking lied to me, man.
I'm gonna go to the hill and kill myself.
And, and then, yeah, then we get theparking attendancy where he is like,
yo, you could just move the car.
Right.
Fucking hell.
Mm-hmm.
Again, no one's likable this movie,there's no redeemable characters at all.
Okay.
So then we cut to the hill and Cal'salready up there, as he always is.

(45:57):
I assume when he is not atthe garage, just screaming at
children, teenagers or whatever.
Basically like, oh man, this is bullshit.
This we used to be cool, man, you, you,no one's gonna fucking challenge me.
I need to get my record back, man.
Did you hear what he said?
No.
Just before buddy showsup, he goes, mothers.
That's what we used to call you mothers.

(46:17):
Oh yeah.
Stay at home mom.
What?
I'm glad you wrote half the stuff down.
'cause Yeah, it's just ridiculous shit.
I just kinda zone outwhen he starts ranting.
I'm like, like, oh no, it'smy uncle at the reunion again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We call him mothers.
Call 'em mothers.
You gotta say mothers.
Mothers wanna go.
Samuel Jackson.
They're just mothers.

(46:37):
And then he, but he shows up.
He is like, I'll raise your ass.
And of course Cal'slike, I don't know man.
You don't seem in the right head space.
Then Cal commences toracing him in a truck.
And I'm like, hold on a sec. Yep.
It wasn't he fixing up that other car.
Oh, we gotta save that for the finale.
The Corvette.
Yeah.
So another bow tie.
So Dan, correct me if I'm wrong,that's the same pickup that was
used in the Expendables, right?

(46:59):
As Barney Ross's truck?
Yeah, it's the same truck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It looked like like a 53or something like that.
Yeah, it was with the roundheadlights and that grill.
And I immediately was like, Ooh,if that was painted, sat in black.
We got the Expendables truck.
We're good.
I was able to check it.
It's a 56 F 100 in this andthe expendables is a 55.
Ah, I knew they were the same truck.
See, I knew they were the same truck.

(47:19):
There you go.
All right.
And that sweet little gear shift.
Oh please.
Oh man.
And then of course Steve showsup like 10 seconds too late and
is like, Hey, his buddy up here.
Like, oh, you just missed him, man.
And so then Steve's chasingbehind him or whatever and they
start trading pain a little bit.
This has to be the single worstdriving sequence in the entire film.

(47:41):
Yeah, it was that night.
It was very close.
Camera shots and stuff.
Just kinda like thrown together andlike pan back and show the race.
Speed it up if you have to.
I did have like a moment thoughwhen Buddy leans out the window
and like they can hear each other.
They're going down MOHOand 70, 80 miles an hour.
He's like sit on it and rotate.
Sit on it.
Yeah.

(48:02):
What are you talking about?
Like what is going on here and Cal? He hadlike a little uh, spotlight or whatever.
He was like flashing over athim every once in a while.
Right.
Police light.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
You know buddy.
He's going a little too fast.
How do we know?
Because Steve says so whenhe is following behind.
Takes that turn and rightinto a fucking gas line.
Boo

(48:25):
crash.
Boom.
Bang.
Little buddy.
Barbecue.
No, no, no.
So hear me out for a second.
You said before Steve was 10seconds behind and he had a one
of the most horrific takeoffs.
If he couldn't find it, he, hegrounded out like it was horrible.
So let's just say he's 20 seconds behind.
He's got this record on the mountainand he can't catch a pickup truck.
And a guy that's drunk in a, in a Mustang.

(48:46):
Oh no.
He caught up.
He was just behind himlike watching or something.
I don't know.
But there was a point thoughwhere he fell way back too.
Like, again, this is where I saythe driving sequence, it was awful.
The worst driving scenein the whole movie.
Yeah.
When they're coming down,Cal being as drunk as he was
driving the truck is one thing.
Apparently he had enough abilityto mess with the spotlight.

(49:07):
He had to keep blinding.
Mm-hmm.
In the car while doing it.
While he is driving.
I'm like, this dude's a phenomenaldriver if he can do that.
Mm-hmm.
He's phenomenal atsomething, that's for sure.
He's high functioning.
He's a guy man.
During the, the night race with Buddyand Cal, did anybody look at Buddy's
dash and see all the duct tape?
I noticed that too.
That was holding, basicallyholding the entire car together

(49:29):
was a roll of duct tape.
Yeah.
That's how you know it's a real race carbecause all of Eric's cars use duct tape.
Yeah.
Actually zip ties Gorilla Tape.
Strong man.
It's got the speed holes punched in them.
Eric's race cars havecopper pipe and zip ties.
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
And some wood in there too, somewhere.
It's not a Tesla.
It's not a Tesla.

(49:50):
Uh, so buddies did, and then Iran down to Steve just starts.
Whacking the hill with agiant stick that he found.
Uhhuh and screaming buddy.
Yeah.
He is just whacking a stick.
Yeah.
So then, then we cut to Cal.
He's uh, fixing his car at the garageas he does when he's not on the hill.
Steve, he comes into work readyto go and uh, the boss comes

(50:11):
out, you know, grizzly Adams.
He is like, Hey man, why don'tyou just like take the day off?
And he is like, I need this man.
I need to.
I just need to do something.
Alright, cool.
And then, yeah, Rick the boss orwhatever, shows him a picture from
like 15 years ago being like, yeahman, I used to go up on the hill too.
Cow's fucking crazy.
You don't need that shit Set.
Barry Gibb.
And I'm like, yeah, same voice.

(50:32):
Finally, maybe Grizzly Adams isthe real hero over this movie.
Why did we pan in after that to a pictureof Gomer Pile from like the 1950s?
What was that picture?
Was that him?
Uh, I think that was, uh,grizzly Adams 15 years ago.
It was a way before 15 years ago.
Yeah.
Well maybe he said 50.
I don't know.
So the picture they zoomed in on,so it had a picture of Rick, which

(50:53):
was the shop owner, and then itzoomed in on Cal. It wasn't going.
Oh, okay.
So cow.
Okay, okay.
Oh yeah, that makes sense.
I was like, what are we zooming in on?
I didn't under, I was like,that doesn't look like him.
Okay.
Well, you know.
Steve, after a day ofwork, he goes to see Tina.
She's getting all dolled up anduh, like going to the Roxy, like
obviously she's hanging out withthe record executive stuff now.

(51:15):
'cause you know, she's gonna get hers.
And, uh, they have, I'd like to callit a fight, but it's more of like, so
you're just gonna hang out with this guy?
And she's like, well, yeah,because are we even a thing?
Don't you have a fiance?
I was waiting for her to pull that one outand like, bring that back into the movie.
Nope, nope, no.
None of that.
No.
And she says to him too, duringthis quote unquote fight, which
was pretty tame, she's like, backand forth and back and forth.

(51:37):
Where is that gonna take you?
And he's like, nowhere.
That's it.
It's the most fast in furiousline of the entire movie.
Damn.
Apparently.
Where is it gonna get you?
No, uh, yeah, I don't know.
The limousine comes to like, pick her upis our unidentified guy, the chauffeur.
Oh, big Tom or whatever?
No, no, no, no.
That guy was listed as chauffeurand the IMDV credits or whatever.
Oh, okay, okay.
Because he was really awkward.

(51:59):
Yeah.
He kinda looked like, uh, shit.
The guy from, uh, WKRP in Cincinnatia little bit, I kept thinking
James Spader for blacklist alittle bit like, you know Yeah.
Oh yeah, the rose glasses.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like he was definitely in witnessprotection, it looked like.
And then the goodbye kiss, wehave the goodbye kiss, right?
Yeah.
The goodbye kiss.
And I'm like, wait, does thisscene warrant a goodbye kiss?

(52:19):
No, not really.
Yeah, they, they say goodbyelike, oh yeah, take it easy.
Like, Hey, that feels like a commitment.
He, he, he, are you gonnabe here when I get back?
You mean if you get back?
So then we go to the mountain, aswe always do every night, forever.
They're like, Hey Steve, there's thisguy from Downey who wants to race.
Nah, I'm good.
And I'm like, cool, thenwhy the fuck are you there?

(52:40):
He's waiting for cow.
That's what he's waiting for.
Oh, was he?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, he's waiting for Cal. He'swaiting to see if he's gonna show
up and then, and he doesn't untilmorning as we come to find out.
But I do wanna pull a thread here.
Dan, the guy that challenges Steveshows up in a two 40 Z. Two 80 Z
depending on, you know what it was.
Same body style.
Did that sound like a straight six to you?

(53:02):
I don't recall.
'cause it's been like a monthsince I watched the movie.
Dude.
It loped, like it had a LS in it.
That was engine swapped.
It's like, what is up with the Z car?
It looked cool though.
I, I liked it.
I would've liked to seen that race.
I think that would've been interesting.
But E Eric, what does that sound like?
Dan could do a better impressionof a Chevy V eight than I can.
Oh, no, I need you to do it.
Uh, we, we need the expert car talk style.

(53:24):
We, we need the, uh, the,the movie Foley expert.
Oh yeah.
You need that
sitting there loping.
Yeah.
But yeah, like I said, the morningrolls around and Cal pulls up.
Steve realizing he doesn't need anyof this bullshit, just drives away.
Back home.
Uhhuh roll credits, guys.

(53:45):
What do we think?
No, no.
That's not what happens at all.
We don't race.
I yelled out.
And so we race at dawn
because they're racing their feelings.
Oh God.
Oh, it's an allegory.

(54:05):
Yeah.
And as they're, uh, they're racing along.
Cal starts running.
Time is speed.
Speed is time.
I wrote that down too.
I am the road queen.
The road the road is a construct.
It's made of people, whateverthe fuck he's yelling at.
Right?
Oh, but then he yells.
'cause you're talking aboutthe curse words earlier.
They're going at it and he goes,we're faster than shit, man.

(54:26):
Yeah.
What?
I don't know.
I've had some fast shit.
Somebody's obviously never eaten atthe discount buffet in a Chinatown.
Right.
Gas station fish tacos.
All I'm gonna say, oh,Steve, don't you remember?
Uh, was it, uh, LeeDumb Kim's or whatever?
Yeah.
You guys, 5 99, uh, Chinese.
All you can eat Buffet inthe middle of San Francisco.

(54:47):
Chinatown.
Brad knows all about House of Hongs.
Yeah.
That being said, thatCorvette is a hot mess.
I mean, it looks likesomething outta Mad Max.
He's driving like a mental patient.
It's the car from Corvette Summer, butdriven by Dennis Hopper for six months.
Yeah, right.
Like the hoods popped off.

(55:08):
All the sides are danging.
He crashed, but he is like emotionallyattached to it, so like he turned it from
a burning ball of fire back into that.
It's like a franking vet now.
I think that's what we're supposed to getfrom that whole thing is that that car is
resurrected from the ashes type deal andthat's why he was resurrected, which is.
Why at the end of this spoilers, neitherof them will be able to be resurrected.

(55:29):
Is the picture of Dorian Gray,they were connected the whole time.
Uhhuh?
Yeah.
'cause cattle, uh, during the race,he like spins out a little bit, gets
back into it and Steve sees that turncoming up, still has the burn marks
that smells like buddy buddy burnt hair.
Steve body hasn't even cooleddown enough for the coroner.
Haul it all.
Yeah, right.
The coroner's still putting themin the back, but then you hear him
say, I don't want this anymore.

(55:50):
Cal, it's all yours.
Yeah, his drive along Cal, he speedspast right into a fucking construction
site and spins out and off the cliff andboom, silver dream racer motherfuckers.
He's dead at the end.
And I believe this is what I turnedto Steve, who was like, wait, what?
What happened?
Huh?
Who is that?

(56:10):
That's Cal. So much is happening rightnow in a movie where nothing has happened.
That's his footprint, man.
Right.
I'll give this racing some credit towhere they're actually like drifting that
Corvette somewhere around the turns andeverything and you can see it because
it's in the morning light and stuff.
It's not at night and you'rejust seeing headlights.
Spurring all over the fucking screen.
A thousand percent.
And I agree with you, that's why Isaid the previous driving sequence

(56:32):
was the worst in the movie by far.
This one was better, itwas more entertaining.
It wasn't great because everyonce in a while you would catch
a glimpse of the dashboard.
Especially in the Porsche,they're doing 30 miles an hour.
Like the gauge is literally reading 30.
You're just like, wow.
This is pathetic.
Yeah.
He was running it up to the red lineat the 30 mile an hour in first gear.
Yeah.

(56:53):
That's why they did theerratic camera shots.
'cause you watch 'em doingMulholland Drive, they're really
doing, yeah, like 20, 25 milesan hour on those turns and stuff.
And you know, it's like a shutdownroad on, you know how you see like
professional drivers like you do incommercials, you by professional drivers.
It's like, no, this isjust, we'll fix it in post.
So yeah, Cal's exploded.
Steve walks up there, the turn andthere's cal's little, uh, stopwatch

(57:15):
or whatever, picks it up, blocks off.
Roll credits guys.
That's King of the mountain.
No, but wait, they play DangerousStrangers after he clicks the stop.
Oh yeah, they play the full song again.
Yes, they do.
Let's Be Dangerous Strangers.
So was the song a metaphor too?
Were they dangerousstrangers, Cal and Steve?
No.

(57:35):
They were no Their love, noeach other for years, man.
They had to erase their emotions andthey were only dangerous to themselves.
And others on the road andeverybody in their crew.
I love the pause there.
They were only dangerous tothemselves, themselves and others.
It's a metaphor.
Anyway, Tanya, would yourecommend this movie again?

(57:57):
I mean, she already did.
She recommended it to us Fools.
Yeah, exactly.
I've never seen it.
How can I recommend itif I've never seen it?
I suggested it.
We gotta blame somebody, Tony.
Somebody's going down forthis and it ain't gonna be me.
That's right.
I mean, is this the worston the ranking totem?

(58:17):
Is this at the bottom?
This is not the worst moviewe have done in this here.
Collaboration.
I will say that exactly.
I'm right there with you becauseI'm gonna admit I do not even come
close to holding Dan's record ofwatching Trading Paint nine times.
I did watch this twice because I wanted torefresh my memory after two weeks abroad,

(58:38):
and so it was re watchable the last chase.
It's re watchable every 20 years.
If we're gonna compare movies like that.
The stuntman, I don't know thatI could rewatch that movie.
You know what I mean?
No.
That movie's great.
You are complaining about the stuntman.
It's up there with the fall guy.
Fall guy.
Yes.
I could rewatch the fall guy.
This is definitely rewatch, watchable.
I did pick up a little bit morethe second time I watched it.

(59:00):
Just because airports and you're boredand you just kind of plowed through it.
Yeah.
He picked up on more of the, uh, romanceor romances as it were this time around.
I have you to thank for that.
I could definitely see it now.
So does Steve go back tohis fiance at the end?
Yeah, he goes back to work.
He's gonna run off with therich record producer, duh.

(59:20):
Oh yeah.
There we go.
Two completed this game.
Tina The Wonder Kid, right?
No.
Buddy's the songwriter.
He's gonna steal all the buddy songs.
Oh yeah.
Shit.
He's got all of his notes at home andhe is like, yeah, yeah, I could play.
It's on the piano.
Uh, shake your ass.
Watch yourself shake ass.
Show me what you're working with.
So let's see what Brad thinks.
Brad, would you recommend this movie?

(59:42):
What did you think?
Uh, no I wouldn't.
No.
What it, it's not theworst, like you're saying.
It is not the worst movie we've done.
I think the Stunt man takesthe cake for that one.
You guys did not like the stunt man.
No, they didn't.
That is baffling.
Senior moment.
Have you guys forgot against All Odds?
Yeah.
And you guys shit on the Stunt man.
What was the one with, what was it?

(01:00:03):
John Travolta Trading.
Pain Trading.
Pain Trading.
Okay.
That, I think that's our one out of 10.
Yeah, it's a toss up.
Yeah.
No, the Lamborghini movie was really bad.
Oh yeah.
Shit.
I think we watched a lot ofbad movies with you guys.
So is it with us or are therejust a lot of bad car movies?
I mean, yes.
Here's the thing.
Steve and I have seen a lot of badmovies, and I will put it this way.

(01:00:26):
The worst car movie that we haveseen is like a five on the bad movie
radar because at least it has cars.
There are movies that arethat bad with no cars.
I would lump this in with CorvetteSummer and some of those other movies
where you can watch this on a weekendwhen you got nothing else going on.
Put it on in the background.
And it's not terrible,but it's not good either.
Look, it's no gone in 30 seconds.

(01:00:47):
I'm just gonna say that.
Gone in 30 seconds.
That the web short version, it'sthe prequel to gone in 60 seconds.
It's the What about shoplifting?
My, my, my attention spanwas gone in 30 seconds.
Yeah, it was that Rockford files thing.
So Dan, what do you do?
Would you recommend it?
Dan recommends all the movies.
I'm with you on this, Eric,for the fact it's, I don't
hate it, but I don't love it.

(01:01:08):
It's kind of middle tier forme where I agree you could
put it on in the background.
I didn't hate it.
It's just certain things aboutit made me cringe though.
'cause like you were saying, someof the inside shots where it showed
they were doing 30 mile an hour,did you also pick up on the fact
that it had the tack in the dash andthen the tack mounted on the dashes?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Attacks everywhere, man.
Like why do you need two tacks?
I thought they were like differentcars too, but it's like, oh no, no.

(01:01:30):
Yeah, this is the same one.
You can see 'em like in thesame shot a couple of times.
Yeah.
Did you guys notice, Dan and Ihave come to an agreement for
the first time on a movie review.
What?
What?
Mark it down.
Alright, how about you, Izzy?
What do you think about this movie?
A hundred percent.
It's not the worst movie we've seen.
Mm-hmm.
But there's so many better carmovies you guys, a thousand percent.
Since you guys like this movie so much,would you consider watching Silver

(01:01:53):
Dream Race or knowing it's the exactsame movie, but with Ooh, motorcycles?
No, no, no.
My Curiosity has the bestme, so I'm gonna watch it.
Just watch the last three minutes.
It's the only part worth watching.
Just watch this movie.
And then about the time Cal's about tocrash, switch over to Silver Dream Racer.
We still need to do Biker Boyssince you opened the door for
suggesting movies for next time.
Oh boy.

(01:02:13):
Wait.
We're not done withthis one, but go ahead.
Yeah, they're talking about BikerBoys and Silver Dream Racer.
Torque.
Yeah.
Torque Baby.
No, no.
Oh, torque.
I'm gonna take it tothe far other extreme.
We're gonna go to the Land of the Rising.
Son, let's do Thunderboltwith Jackie Chan.
Oh, you guys don't wanna do Thunderbolt.
That's right.
The very first, theoriginal Fast and Furious.

(01:02:34):
Oh, the black and white one.
1950. Yeah.
The Roger Forman one.
Yeah.
Yeah, I have that.
Yeah, we could do that too.
Thunderbolt.
Just think.
There's no dialogue thatwe could understand.
So the reviews could be really short.
This would not be the first time Steve andI reviewed a movie that was in Japanese
language and there were no subtitles andwe did not know there was a dub available.
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added in the history of adding.
Oh, she said it.
They get better every week.
Ah, babe.
I think I'm just gonnahave another, uh, Sockeye.

(01:04:21):
Dagger Falls.
How much?
Yeah, I think I'm just gonna go for that.
All right.
I'm my top.
Oh, he's top.
Oh, sorry.
Oh, so hop up for H. He's just coveringmy top with his now he's sucking the head.
What did we suck buddy?
Alright.
Yeah.
Not a bad beer.
You been on.
Number two, my dad choking on his drink,which appears to be in a Mountain Dew.

(01:04:43):
Yes.
Say a Mountain Dew Cup.
He says it's water, but it'sthe beast, the beast mode.
So it's Mountain Dew andMonster Energy drink.
Got it.
It was just a shot of Jack From the box.
Yeah.
From the dashboard of a citro in.
Yeah.
So would uh, any of you be interestedin any fun facts about this movie?

(01:05:04):
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Only if there fun facts.
Super fun facts 'cause fun, fun facts.
Steve has driven a citron, by the way.
Which one?
Uh, the Citri lingo.
The, the fucking van or whatever.
Oh, the van.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those are still, that thing getslike 70 miles to the gallon though.
It's fucking amazing.
Yeah.
We rented one as a camperfan when we were in Iceland.
I just had a Citron as a rental.

(01:05:25):
Yes.
Which one?
The Air Cross.
Spectacular.
It was terrible.
Meanwhile, fun facts.
Super fun facts.
What do you got for us, Steve?
Alright.
Rotten tomatoes, no critic reviews.
What?
Any guesses on what thataudience score is though?
Yes, because I saw it as soonas Fandango opened in my face.
Yeah.
Damia.
Fandango, I have to abstain.

(01:05:45):
You can't not see it.
Yeah, I did not see it.
So I will guess 47.
I'm gonna guess 35.
Uh, I'm gonna go withmy super generous 17%.
Oh God.
Well Matt Manang was right on at 47%.
God damn.
Says the guy who said he didn't see it.
Yeah, right.
I totally didn't see it.
Probably 47.
Not looking at it right now.
You're just pulling it outta my ass.
47. I'm office can be on theseall the time, so you gotta win one

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every We agreed on something Dan.
Yeah, it's a red letter day.
Take him to Vegas, put it all on black.
Yep.
$2 million budget.
I'm just gonna guess.
1.8 US gross.
Not a big movie, I don't think.
Uh, 1.8 million worldwide.
Wait, so you're telling me they spent2 million bucks to make this movie?
Well, those cars probablyhalf a million in the cars.
Dennis Hopper, man, that's a lot of Coke.

(01:06:30):
Yeah.
Dennis Hopper got 1.5 and you know, uh,Elvira, that's where the money went.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
And the film is based on an articlein Titered Thunder Road by David
Berry and published in New WestMagazine on July 31st, 1978.
The piece told that the MulhollandRacing Association organization
whose membership were youths, whoraced cars across 23 mile stretch of

(01:06:53):
Mulholland Drive in Las Vegas Hills.
The movie also has been attributedto an article by David Berry that
was published in the LA Times.
Okay.
Is that all you're gonna say about that?
That's all I got about that.
Go on.
Okay.
So the reality is, so that article, it'sbased off a man named Chris Banning,
who is the king of the mountain.
And he built a purpose-built nine 11RSR, specifically to race on Mulholland.

(01:07:17):
It's known as the nine 11 Mulholland.
He went to Germany, they gave himspecs and data to build this car.
This car was in the Peterson Museum.
He still owns the car, I believe,but like he did things like slant the
windshield to make it more aerodynamic,all the suspension, all this stuff.
He's like a builder on top of everything.
Oh wow.

(01:07:37):
So it's loosely based off him.
And apparently the impetus for himto build this RSR out of a regular,
like RS nine 11 was, he was racingon there and some dude in some like
Chevy pickup truck rolled up and hehad a hard time getting around him.
That was Cal baby.
He's like, I gotta build something here.
And then he went andhe built this monster.

(01:07:58):
Nine 11.
Alright.
Applause for bringingthe super funnest car.
Fun fact to any crossover episode ever.
Mad props to Tanya.
That was very well done.
Excellent, excellent research there.
He had to completely customizethe car to be the pickup.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah.
A pickup.
No, I think, I believe he got around them.

(01:08:20):
'cause there's an interview you can watch.
They've got posted on thePeterson Automotive Museum.
So it's a really shortvideo of him talking.
He's sitting in front of thecar and he is talking about it
and he talks about that moment.
I have to go watch it again.
I think he got around him, but thenhe was like, because Mulholland
is really rough and bumpy.
Yeah.
Which the regular nine 11is not designed for it.
So he'd completely tune the car todrive on Mulholland and like that's it.

(01:08:43):
And the car is known asthe nine 11 Mulholland.
It's known as nine 11.
Yes.
Yeah.
Very cool.
Never forget, you knowwhat, I've been slick.
Maybe we need to goback and watch it again.
Nobody's gonna do this.
Is at the Porsche shop is to see if thecar happens to be in the background.
Because if you thinkabout it, it's a 76 9 11.
This RSR Mulholland, the movie was in 80.

(01:09:05):
There's a high probability, it mightbe a cameo in the background because I
wanted to go, but I didn't have time toresearch the nine 11 that that old guy
was pushing, which was RSR Motorsports.
It was a nine 11 race carbelonged to somebody's team.
They show a 74 9 11 Carrera, RSR, butthe one being pushed in was a 1979.
14. Well, there you go.
But anyway, it'd be cool to see if thiscar was in the background somewhere.

(01:09:27):
Never know.
There you go.
And uh, Harry Hamlinthe star of our movie.
He replaced Brad Davis.
I'm the lead role of Steve, butDavis was allegedly fired due to his
alleged drug problems because thismovie didn't have enough of those.
He would've fit right in.
Yeah, right.
And you guys might be asking,who the fuck is Brad Davis?
'cause I had to look it up.
He was old Georgian Roots.
Oh, chariots of Fire, midnight Express.

(01:09:49):
That's about all I got.
I didn't really recognizehim for anything else.
The make and model of the car thatSteve Drives is supposedly supposed
to be a silver 58 Porsche 3 56.
Sports or convertible,but in fact was a replica.
Oh yeah.
That was an Outlaw 3 56.
Yeah.
I mean it, it might be a Beetle, butthere was a company out in California that

(01:10:11):
was building three 50 sixes like that.
Yeah.
Apparently it was aVolkswagen Beetle convertible.
Oh, interesting.
And uh, the last one I got guys, thiswas the comeback movie for Dennis
Hopper who had been filming in Europefor years because he was banned from
Australia and America apparentlywouldn't insure him for a while.
I don't know what.
Yeah.
Apparently this list as hiscomeback movie to the Americas.

(01:10:31):
Oh.
But now we've reachedthe most important part.
Hmm.
What did we learn from king of the.
Tanya as Queen of the Mountain.
Would you like to go first?
Well, I think I shared what I learned'cause I went into a deep dive
and found out there was actually aloose thread to a real life story.
Yeah, well done, well played.
And that way.
Still better than Fast andFurious based on an article.

(01:10:54):
Was it Racer X by some guythat was in some magazine
and now we're 12 movies deep.
Brett, how about you?
I learned that there isno king of the mountain.
The mountain cannot be beaten.
Ooh, very propheticmountain is undefeated.
Yes, the house always wins.
The mountain always wins.
Speed is time and time to speed.

(01:11:16):
Your car's like a runaway knife, man.
How about you Mount Man,Dan, not Mount Mike.
I'm just gonna say like, Tanya's littletidbits of information were great
and I just like the fact that carhad to be custom made to get around
to That's, that's a great thing.
You're gonna, you're gonnahold that over my head.
Oh my God.
Couldn't get that Porschearound that Chevy.
I can hear it now.

(01:11:37):
The next barbecue, that's allwe're gonna be talking about.
They don't tell you that it wasNicki Lauda driving the The pickup.
Oh, that makes a difference, right?
Yeah.
Stunt driver ton Sena behindthe wheel of the Chevy.
I winning.
How about you Eric?
So I learned a couple things.
I mean mad props to Tanya.

(01:11:58):
I didn't go down that rabbit hole.
I was loving the whole 3 56 outlaw thing.
Jackie from too close for comfort, DebraVanValkenberg, whatever, so she can sing.
And I thought that was cool.
I actually thought she had apretty voice and the song aside,
I think she did really well.
But for me, going back again toa car related, what did I learn?
I learned that you can stack mounttwo oil coolers in the space of the

(01:12:20):
rear grill on a 3 56 slash beetle.
Did anybody else notice that?
That was not a wing.
Those were two oil coolerson the back of the car.
So I learned you could get away with that.
Super safe.
There you go.
How about you, babe?
I learned that fiances are just like.
A construct man, and they'lldisappear at anytime.
And really, the love between a manand a woman is nothing compared to the

(01:12:42):
love between two men and a sandwich.
That was a heated scene.
That was a heated scene.
That was the most emotion wegot out of anybody in this
whole movie, of all the scenes.
I was waiting for thatporn music to started up.
Yeah.
I I don't think there was a bettersubway commercial than that.

(01:13:04):
Jared had nothing on that.
You got any other foot lungs?
Is that what Jared lookedlike in the eighties?
That's a heard salami.
Uh, see, I learned you gotta ride the edgeif you wanna win the edge of the sandwich.
Yeah.
At the edge of the sandwich.
Yeah.
Gotta be fast as shit.
And you didn't sell 'emout, you bought yourself in.

(01:13:26):
See, you're gonna wear that as a shirt.
Yeah, right.
I didn't sell you out.
I bought myself in.
That would make a great t-shirt.
It's just a picture of a dude withno face and a perm and instead
of his face it says those words.
It would be fantastic.
I would wear that.
Dude.
So many people you have mesold at no face in a perm.
Well guys, thank you somuch for joining us here on

(01:13:47):
everything I learned from movies.
I understand you also havea podcast, is that correct?
We do.
We have an entire network of podcasts.
What with shows like Screen toSpeed, the Ferrari Marketplace, the
Motoring Historian, the Drive ThroughBreak Fix, and many, many others.
Check us out@motoringpodcast.net orfollow us on social media at Motoring
Podcast Network on our podcast.

(01:14:09):
Maybe you've heard of it.
We're still going throughthe year of the apocalypse.
We are taking a little sidestepthough for Nick August Cage and
we've already done a lot of hisApocalypse movies, so we do stuff
like it could happen to you Astro Boy.
We've done a lot of his movies already.
We're hitting the bottomof the barrel now, but.
Starting in September, we get back inthe post-apocalyptic movies like Roller
Ball and Blood of the Heroes, and we'regonna throw in some random Italian stuff.

(01:14:33):
So come check it out.
And Thunderbolt, don't forget Thunderbolt.
Oh yeah.
And Thunderbolt coming soon.
Thunderbolt.
Yeah.
The Shirley Bassey singthe song on that one.
That'd be great.
He is that man who can drive really fast.
How about you, babe?
Oh, you can find meeverywhere at Untidy Venus.
It's a goddess Who's better?
Housekeeping.
I'm on all the socialmedias at Untidy Venus.

(01:14:55):
You can catch me at events allover the state of Utah constantly.
Can't stop.
Won't stop, Steve.
Mm-hmm.
Where can we find you?
Oh, you find me everywhere onall the major pod catchers and
everything I learned from movies.
We're gonna up directly onTwitter, Facebook, Patreon,
and bluesky at EILF movies.
That's everything I learned frommovies, cars, like a runaway knife.

(01:15:17):
All right, so I tell next time I'mSteve and obviously these guys aren't
James Bond fans and uh, and we got Ericand Tanya and Brad and Mount man Dan.
And this is everythingI learned from movie.
Don't afraid.

(01:16:05):
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