October 16, 2025 • 41 mins
On this episode of Break/Fix’s “Women of the Autosphere” series we’re thrilled to welcome Sabre Cook - a true force in motorsports whose journey is as inspiring as it is impressive.
From her early days karting in Colorado to breaking barriers in open-wheel racing, Sabre has proven herself both on and off the track. She’s not only competed in elite series like W Series, USF2000, and Indy Pro 2000, but she’s also balanced her racing career with a background in mechanical engineering, working with some of the biggest names in the automotive industry. In a sport where talent, tenacity, and technical skill must work in perfect harmony, Sabre embodies the full package—paving the way for the next generation of women in racing. And, we’ll dive into her path, her perseverance, and her vision for the future of motorsports.
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00:00 Meet Sabre Cook: A Force in Motorsports 01:50 Sabre's Early Racing Journey 04:05 Balancing Racing and Education 07:46 Applying Engineering to Racing 15:43 Sponsorship Challenges and Successes 18:05 Women in Motorsport: Progress and Challenges 19:07 Comparing F1 Academy and W Series 21:50 Joining Porsche Cup Racing & Development Program 27:49 Generations of Porsche Drivers 32:04 Advice for Aspiring Drivers 37:40 Future Plans and Shoutouts 40:32 Closing Remarks
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Welcome to Women of the Autos Sphere.
On Break Fix, we dive into thestories of trailblazers, engineers,
racers, designers, and disruptorswho are shaping the automotive
and motor sports industries.
From the pit lane to the boardroom,from concept sketches to championship
podiums, these women are drivingchange breaking barriers, and
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inspiring the next generation.
Whether you're a lifelong gearhead,a curious newcomer, or someone
who simply loves a good story.
You are in the right place.
This is more than a podcast.
It's a movement.
On this episode of Break FixesWomen of the Auto Sphere series.
We're thrilled to welcome SabreCook, a true force in Motorsports
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whose journey is as inspiring as itis impressive from her early days.
Karting a Colorado to breakingbarriers in open wheel racing.
Sabre has proven herselfboth on and off the track.
She's not only competed in Elite serieslike the W Series USF 2000 Entity
Pro 2000, but she's also balancedher racing career with a background
in mechanical engineering, workingwith some of the biggest names in
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the automotive industry, in a sportwhere talent, tenacity and technical
skill must work in perfect harmony.
Sabre embodies the full package pavingthe way for the next generation of
women in racing, and we'll dive intoher path, her perseverance, and her
vision for the future of motor sports.
And joining me tonight is returningco-host Lauren Goodman, associate curator
of exhibitions at the Revs Institute,and one of the many personalities
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here at the Motor Inc Podcast Network.
So welcome back.
Good to be here.
And with that, let's welcomeSabre officially to break fix.
Hi guys.
I feel so inspired and like sogood after that introduction.
Like you guys should just come be my peptalk team before I get in the race car.
Like that was great.
Well be the flavor.
Flave.
The fla, the Flavor Flav.
You gotta wear the giant clock though.
Well Sabre like all break Fixx stories.
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There's a super heroineorigin story out there.
So take us back to your.
Earliest memories of carting in Colorado.
And what first sparkedyour passion for racing?
Did you come from a racing family?
I did.
I was super lucky tohave a pretty cool dad.
He used to race motocross andSupercross professionally back in
the eighties, and he and my momdid not want me racing motorcycles.
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So compromised with fourwheels 'cause it's much safer.
So I appreciate that.
Now I have a lot less broken bonesthan I probably would have otherwise.
That's how we got started.
Got into carting just as far, Iwas eight years old, so I guess the
heroine story started with my dadbeing my hero and just loving racing
and wanting to get involved in that.
And I was also born on Supercross Sunday,so my parents, they used to host like a
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local Supercross events in our hometown.
And my mom went into laborthe morning of the big race.
So she went to the hospitalinstead of to, to the racetrack.
It was kind of, uh, it was inevitablecarting at a young age, especially
a young lady in carting, you know,and motorsport, as we know, is a male
dominated sport, but that is changing.
We're seeing parody in multipledisciplines of motorsport
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throughout the world.
What was it like for you competingat that level and then moving up
further and further into racing?
It was challenging at times, beingeither the only woman or one of a couple.
It definitely made you have adifferent experience growing up
than maybe your peers that wouldbe involved in a space that had
more women or more representation.
But I think I learned so much frombeing in those spaces and I had
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to learn how to kind of createmy own s. In a place that wasn't
traditionally expecting me to be there.
So, and I, and I really loved the factthat I got to do a lot of my younger
years with my dad and he was a greatmentor for me and helped me kind of, you
know, navigate the challenges and thatanybody goes through in racing, right.
Male or female, just the challengesand you know, the mental and physical
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struggles that you go through as anathlete and finding your way through
and and moving up towards the top.
So yeah, it was challenging,but it was, it was great.
So we talked to a lot of younger driverswho came up in a similar way that you did.
Maybe they started in carting orthey went into junior dragsters
or midgets or something like that.
And there's always thisbalance that has to be struck.
Not only just.
Within the family, like, Hey,how far are your parents going
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to support you and push you?
But with schooling, so you started cartingat eight years old and what we tend to
find is kids that young do racing in fitsand spurts because as you move to middle
school and high school and schoolinggets in the way, we're gonna talk about.
Your mechanical engineering degreeas the punchline here, but how did
that work for you as you continued tofollow your passion but also go into
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a field like mechanical engineering?
Definitely.
It wasn't easy, and I'm stillhonestly transparently, I
tried to do too many things.
Like I was the kid that, Ican't remember how old I was.
I had like a complete meltdown to my mom.
'cause I was like, Ijust wanna do everything.
Like I don't wanna have to choose.
So that, that was a problem Ihad very early on in my life.
But I guess I just.
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Tried to lean into, you know, myteachers and peers around me to say,
Hey, this is something I really wannado, and this is like a passion for me.
But obviously I really care aboutschool, like I love learning.
That's like one of the biggest thingsfor me, is I'm always like really eager
to learn and continue to get better atwhatever it is or learn about new things.
So I just leaned into my peers,my professors, my family to say,
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how can I optimize this situationto be able to chase both of them?
And it was definitely some sleeplessnights for sure, too many times,
especially as I got older and you know,in high school and then into college.
But when I was young, it definitely,it did have those little spurts where
there was maybe more racing and thenthere was more school and I didn't get
to drive or drive as much as I would'veliked to or wanted to or should have been
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driving because there is that balanceand you have to learn also, like as a
young sports person, you start to learnlike what it really takes the level
of commitment that you have to have tostart to perform at that high level.
How much it really means thatyou need to be consistent, and
how much it really means thatyou need to commit time to that.
That was something that everybodyI feel like you go through when
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you're younger is, you know, youdon't get the results that you want.
And the hard reality is, okay, wellyou've gotta commit the time that
those top, top people are committing.
And that's really the only way aroundit is you've gotta be there and
you've gotta be willing to put inthose, you know, the 10,000 hour rule.
You've gotta be willing toput in the time to get there.
So did you have one of thoseawkward conversations with
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your guidance counselor?
That was, Hey, I wannabe a race car driver.
And then they said, youshould find a career.
To back that up.
Did the race car driving begetbecoming a mechanical engineer?
Was the engineering always there for you?
Actually, I was one of those weird kidsthat I liked school, I liked math and
I liked science, and there was nevera question in my mind at any point.
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Oh, I don't wanna do school.
I don't wanna pursue likegoing and getting a degree.
It was always a plan of mine and myparents obviously heavily encouraged
it 'cause it was important for them.
Nobody else in my family up untilthat point had ever gone to college.
So I was the first generationstudent and had to kind of go through
the, the learning curve of that.
Right?
'cause nobody had been through it, but.
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For them.
It was such an important goal to beable to put their kids into college and
have that degree in something that youcan go and take and build a life on.
It was never a matter of if itwas gonna happen, it was just like
when and what it was gonna be.
And pretty quickly I decided itwas gonna be something that was.
STEM oriented.
That was pretty clear, honestly,probably from the third grade on.
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And then it just became more clearlater in my high school when I took
a mechanical engineering class.
And then I was like, youknow what, this makes sense.
And we have a really great engineeringschool in Colorado that's one of the
top engineering universities in the us.
So in-state tuition was allabout that, save the money.
So it became, uh, an easychoice to apply there.
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And actually, I don't know if thiswas a dumb thing or just a bold
thing, but I only applied there.
I didn't have any backups.
I was like, I'm going here.
This is what's happening.
Have you been able to apply what youlearned from your mechanical engineering
degree in your racing, or do you seeavenues for potential to exercise your
degree in motor sport at some point?
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So, I mean, I've worked.
For teams in a designcapacity in motorsports.
So I've, I have used it.
But as far as like you mean using itspecifically as a driver, like those
scientific principles and practices andthe way you analyze and break things down.
As an engineer, how do youapply that to your driving?
I am definitely much moreanalytical in my approach to things.
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I have very structured and rigorous.
Debrief sheets and like the way thatI log, like say a testing event, I
have a workbook that I haven't reallyseen a lot of other drivers have, and
so I have like an an Excel workbookwhere I have multiple tabs and I log
as much tangible data as I can without.
Making my engineer brain overthink.
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Like when you get in the racecar, you've gotta be totally free.
Like you need to not overthink things.
It needs to be more natural, like itneeds to just sort of happen and you've
gotta be allowing your body to takeover and the muscle memory to take over.
Because if you drive with your consciousmind, it's always gonna be slower
than driving with your subconscious,really making sure that the analytical
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engineering brain stays in its lane.
But it is very beneficial whenI get out of the car to look.
At video and data and try tonarrow down what are the big things
that we need to be focused on?
What's me, what's the car?
And just being able to have like aclear debrief and logging system,
that then allows me to look backon trends and past experiences to
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then move forward more quickly.
This reminds me a lot of Mark Donahue.
The great Porsche driver, that'swho it reminds me of, who also
had an engineering degree.
And we have, at the museum, we havehis notebooks that he kept where he
kept all, he logged every single noteabout every single lab, about the cars.
He was testing for Roger Penske.
So I think you, you would'vebeen two Ps in a pod, you and
Mark Donahue, it sounds like.
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And they're all the graph papernotebooks, and it's all like very,
very lined up and very organized.
Not like my handwriting at all.
So I think the two of you.
Would've gone on like gangbusters.
But I'm also thinking you're talking abouthaving to turn off the conscious mind
and just feel and engage with the car.
Do you find it harder to do that whenyou understand how cars are designed and
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engineered, or do you trust the car morenow that you understand the tolerances?
No, I think it's harder if youunderstand because it just gives
you a bigger range to think about.
Like first thing that comes tomind is like Adam and Eve, right?
You don't know what you don'tknow till you bite the apple and
then all of a sudden you likethink about all these things.
So in some ways I think it definitely.
It gives you just a differentperspective, different range to
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think about when you're driving.
And I definitely have to check myself andI, I always go in and preface whenever I
start working with an engineer, like I'mlike, look, I don't wanna do your job.
I'm going to try to likekeep myself in my lane.
Definitely let me know,like if you're like.
Sabre, like, let me take this over.
Like, you don't need to worry aboutengineering the car right now.
Like actually this just happenedin, in a test that we just had,
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my engineer had to remind me.
He's like, Hey, your job isto just give me feedback about
balance of the car in this moment.
I don't want you to stress and feel likeyou need to help me solve the problem.
And that's also like.
Typical, I feel like girl, like peoplepleasing, like I always wanna help,
like I wanna contribute kind of thing.
So it's, it's definitely, I've veryhelpful to have like my engineer that I, I
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work with this year, I work with very welland he's also has a driving background.
So I think that's also whywe work really well together.
'cause he understandswhat I'm going through.
It is a challenge sometimes to keep them.
In the right lanes.
And I'm glad you brought thatup because Motorsport has been
at the forefront of technology.
I mean, we can make arguments aboutplanes, trains, and automobiles being
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the things that drive technology forward,but racing, especially Formula One, and
then you kind of counter that with thehypercar at Lamont, things like that
are always cutting edge technology.
And so as we wrap up this thought onmechanical engineering and keeping that
lens on for just a little bit longer,when you look at the modern cars.
You're in sports car and endurance racing,which is gonna be a little bit different
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because you're based on production cars.
But when you look at the technology that'sout there, is there much more to give?
Is it all just finesse and fine tuning?
Unlike the old days where it waslike these radical inventions and the
Formula One used to be at the heightof experimentation, where now it's a
little bit more like a spec series.
So if you look at it not as a driver.
But as an engineer, what's thetechnology look like out there
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right now on the race field?
Obviously, like you said in theseries that I'm in with Horse Career
Cup and like the INS hepatic, it isa little bit more rained in except
for maybe the GTP side of things.
But as far as like anything that hasto do with GT three cars, LMP two a
little bit, at the end of the day, itcomes from a production or an OEM car.
It has to be within reason.
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Like it can't be this like.
Craziness because the factoriesneed to justify like why are we
putting an investment and researchinto racing if we're not even
gonna put it in our road cars?
'cause at the end of the day, that'sultimately how they justify racing all
the time is this is supposed to helppush our road car technology forward
with Formula One though, I feel like thereason why, maybe like back in the day
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when you referenced you had all thesecrazy monster machines and everything.
The engineering field wasstill very much developing.
There was like this big growth ofthings like they were learning really.
Like it got to the point where therewas like so much horsepower, right?
But then they realized, oh, it doesn'treally matter if you can go really fast
if we can't harness that, you know,with the brakes and the suspension and
like optimizing the package as a whole.
So once those two kind of like caughtup to each other, there became kind
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of this like, it's almost like anexponential growth and now it's kind
of like flat lining a little bit.
And now where the biginnovations are happening is in
efficiency and sustainability.
So like a lot of the new rules that arehappening in Formula One is I think it's
a gas that has to be made from food waste.
Yeah.
All the teams need to be able tocreate their own fuel and utilize that.
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I can't remember what yearit starts implementing.
Maybe 20, 29.
So like that's a big thing.
Obviously the hybrid system, like allthe energy recovery systems, stuff like
that to make the cars unfortunatelyquieter, but more sustainable.
It's important because it helps us.
Yes.
Obviously F1 is a big show and it doeshave like its own carbon footprint to
be this big show, but they are realizingthat they need to take into account
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what current global needs are, andso I feel like it's another way for
racing to justify to be racing, right?
It's like, okay, well if this is thecurrent technology and the issues
that are important to people rightnow is sustainability and all these
things, so we need to utilize thisracing platform to be able to push that
technology if that's where it's at.
Right?
Alright, now I'm gonna ask you totake that mechanical engineering
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fedora off your head and just flingit across the room like a Frisbee and
talk to me like a race car driver.
And what I'm driving to hereis balance of performance.
'cause the argument is thebalance of performance isn't about
engineering, it's about rules.
And putting on a goodshow, as you said, right?
So your thoughts on BOP, I mean, it'snecessary so that way all manufacturers
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can essentially compete in a levelplaying field, but it, it's always hard.
Not everyone is gonnaalways be happy, right?
There's always gonna be checks andbalances and that's how endurance.
Racing is going to be until you makeit like a spec series like Porsche
Career Cup where there is a, a such asmaller window, it's all the same cars.
So it's unfortunately part of it,it's how it works, so that way more
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players can stay in the game inwhich we don't wanna eliminate that.
Right?
Like it's important to have thatmany manufacturers, as many as
possible in the world of racing.
'cause it's just better for the sport,it's better for the fans and it's
better for, for us as race car drivers.
Switching gears from theengineering side to the money side.
The other thing that fuels racing.
The main thing that fuels themain thing since time immemorial.
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If it ain't daddy's money, it's somebodyelse's money that's fueling the racing.
Exactly.
So when you move from carting to thelower formula, that was requiring
a step up in terms of the financialcommitment from your family, from
sponsors, what's the most challengingpart of putting together sponsorships?
So, so many areas.
For reference, I didn't start racingcars until I was almost 23 years old
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because I had an amazing family that wasvery supportive, and they did help quite
a bit with my carting side of things.
But it got to the point whereI had to sustain that through
sponsorships and support from thefactory teams, even in carting.
And so jumping up to that nextlevel of budget in car racing.
Was outta the question, so I didn'tgo to cars until very late, like 23
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is like way old to start your carcareer comparatively to, you know,
people starting at 14, 15 years old.
Now, going into car racing, I didn't havethat opportunity until I found a sponsor
that was willing to put me in their car.
So I had to very quickly andhaphazardly figure out how to put.
A much larger corporate sponsorshipprogram together very quickly because
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without me putting the corporatesponsorship together, there was no
racing, there was no family money.
There was not like it wasn't gonna happen.
It was either figure it outlike baptism by fire, or uh, go
back and go be an engineer andforget about your racing dreams.
I obviously made a lot of mistakes.
I tried to figure it out, but I would saythe the biggest thing to understand about
sponsorship is at the end of the day,it's about telling your story, building
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a story that resonates with people, andgetting people to buy into that story and
using that story to help someone meet.
Some need.
And if you're able to marry thosetogether, you can make a very powerful
partnership that will last longer.
Like it's a business, right?
But ultimately businesses aremade of people and people just
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need a emotional justificationto choose to be a part of your.
Program.
So yes, it's important to show a returnon investment, but at the end of the day,
it is about them liking you as a personand believing in you and your story and
wanting to become a part of that story.
I think that's the biggest thingthat I've realized about sponsorship.
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We got a chance to meet atthe Women with Drive Summit.
Sponsored by wna had a great time and I,I love how they emphasize the coaching
of young women drivers and to do thingslike sponsorships, how to go out and put
together their sponsorships and theirpackage in order to fund their careers.
And one of the things they talked about,it is still a discussion about sponsors
still hesitated to fund women drivers.
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At the same rate they fund male drivers.
Have you seen that change justin the time you've been driving?
Do you think there's been some movementor not enough movement, but some movement?
Absolutely.
I think women in sport in general are,uh, getting more sponsorship dollars
if we just look at the data 'cause.
I like to just look at the data.
In the past, traditionally, womenglobally have received less than
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1% of sports sponsorship dollars.
That was a few years ago, and now Ithink we're maybe up between four to 6%.
So that's like a big jump.
It's still like extremely skewed, butthat is progress and I've definitely
seen it in more tangible ways.
Like by me being involved in W Series andnow being a part of the Porsche Mobile
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one female driver development program.
There are definitely thingsthat are moving and shifting.
It's just gonna take time toreach more of an equality level.
Which brings me to W Series.
I'd love to know more about yourexperience moving into that, and
I just realized that I saw youdrive at Coda in W series in 2021.
Yeah, there were two, two races that year.
Moving on to what really isa global stage like that.
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Did it feel like they were justdialing up the intensity or did it
feel like a completely differentbeast altogether before WS series,
I'd actually raced on a Formula oneweekend previously with U SF four.
So I did race at code like oh.
I'd been part of a an F1weekend in that respect.
But obviously WS series waskind of the next step up.
We were very much in the public eye,became, you know, this new thing that
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everyone's like, how's this gonna go?
Like, what's going on?
And kind of the first of its kind.
It was incredible because.
Yes, I know a lot of people had theiropinions about it and they have their
opinions on F1 Academy, but as a racer,as we just talked about, corporate
sponsorship is my bread and butter,and the only way I can chase my goals.
So to have WS series come in and say,Hey, here's an opportunity to race
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an F three car on a global stage.
You don't have to pay.
Any of it, and you will get paid.
All you have to do is qualify andbe one of the fastest drivers.
Like you say that to any race car driver.
They're like, oh, okay, let's go.
Where do I sign up?
So for me it was, yes, I don't lovethe idea of the all women's thing
because at the end of the day, wewanna be fighting just to be the
top full stop, no gender involved.
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But until WS series, I'd neverhad a full season of car racing.
So that became my first.
Opportunity to actuallyhave my first full season.
So without that, no matter what youropinion is on it, it was so revitalizing
for myself and so many other womenthat were a part of it, who otherwise
were going to be on the sidelines.
A huge step in terms ofvisibility, if nothing else.
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Absolutely.
So I've been following alongwith the Academy as well.
Do you think the Academy model is animprovement on the W Series model?
I think that it has definitely engagedthe F1 fan base more, and that has
been helpful, that it is branded withthe Formula One brand and it has that
giant behind it that has been positivebecause it's given it more reach.
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The only thing that is, I don't wannasay a step backwards, but it's not as
beneficial to the drivers, is that it'snot as much based off of qualifying
to be one of the fastest in the seats.
You still have to bring money.
Not like W Series where it's like youshow up as a pro, you get paid to drive
and you don't have to bring any money.
F1 Academy is a little bit of adifferent structure, and it's also F four
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cars, so the cars are slower as well.
It's like kind of give and take, butI think ultimately, like in the long
run, I hope that it's going to createthis ladder to having more women
performing at the top in the road to F1.
Tell us about the Porschedevelopment program and how
you got involved with that.
Porsche Motor PORs, north America didn'thave a female driver development program
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until 2023 when I became the foundingmember and the only member in 2023 when
I became the first female to race in thePorsche Career Cup North America series.
So it was really actually supercool of Porsche to be intuitive
and they are paying so muchmore attention than you realize.
Like when I was first looking at theidea of going into Porsche Kera Cup,
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who, by the way, the reason why thishappened was because of Lynn St. James,
who is one of the co-founders of wna.
She said, Hey, you know, thislooks like a great series.
Like it's super competitive.
It has a lot of potential to put youin a good spot to then build into stuff
long term in the sports car world.
And so I was like, okay, like let's.
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Take a look at it.
Let's see what it is.
We wouldn't announce anything.
There was nothing publicgoing on, but OSHA just paying
attention to what was happening.
They realized, Hey, what's going on?
You wanna race in the series?
And so the fact that they just like, werepaying so much attention to realize that
without any sort of formal conversationand say, Hey, okay, you wanna do this?
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How can we help you do this?
And then even bringing their owncorporate partners in to make it happen.
What other OEM is really actuallydoing something like that.
So I felt like incredibly thankful andgrateful for them to want to create that
space and then not just stop with mebeing in the series, you know, and be
like, oh, that box checked done right.
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Like every year with the help of mobileone, they've expanded the program and
now I think there's like seven of us.
Now total in the PorscheMotorsports North America ladder.
So it's grown so much andit's growing every year.
They're just getting better aboutproviding us with new things to
learn more resources or workshops.
It's been an awesomething to be a part of.
After doing a couple of seasons of OpenWheel and making the switch to Porsche
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Cup racing, what was that transition like?
Do you like production based racing orsports car racing over the open wheel, or
do you still kinda long for the days ofbeing in an open wheel car as a driver?
Right.
Sports car racing.
Ultimately it's a street car thatgets kind of turned into a race car.
And a formula car is a purposebuilt, born bred race car.
So it's meant to do all theall the right things, right?
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So it is very challenging to jumpinto a sports car world after being
in the open world world and cominginto a car that you have to think
your way around more because a nine11, especially it's engineered wrong,
the engine is buying the rear wheels.
I'm, I'm glad you said it, not me.
It's fine.
They know it.
It's the legacy, right?
Like it is what made Porsche.
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Porsche.
So it is a very challenging car,but it makes drivers, it gives
them a bigger toolbox to pull from.
Because it is challenging and you dohave to really be in tune with using
your tools in the car and driving thecar with your feet, using your driver
tools to really help the balance.
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Like I feel like there's not alot of production cars that are at
the same level of Porsche Car Cup,where it really pushes the driver to
evolve and develop in the same way.
That's why, you know, they sayif you can be fast in a nine 11.
You can be fast in anything.
After my experience being in the careercup, going back and driving anything
that I would've driven before, like openwheel, I'm a hundred percent faster.
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So like it's made me a betterdriver because it's given me a
larger range of tools to utilize.
It's been challenging, but ithas definitely made me grow.
Coming off of the GT three based nineelevens, the modern era stuff, nine.
Nine ones nine, nine twos and things likethat, have you been able to get behind
the seat of a classic analog nine 11and kind of compare and contrast what
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the new cars are like versus what someof your heroes have driven in the past?
The first Porsche I ever drove.
It's kind of analog, maybe likeit still has some, like in theory
it has like a blip, but it's likea mechanical blip where it has,
actually, the thing that pushes thegas pedal down is the UH, 9, 9 7.
So that was the first GTthree cup car I'd ever driven.
The sponsor that I mentioned that putme in my first race car, it was his.
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So I was destined, I guess,to find my way into a Porsche
eventually, one way or another.
But that was my first experiencein a Porsche TT three Cup car.
And I loved it because it's super raw.
Like the 9, 9 7 is a shorter wheel base.
We've really aggressive with it.
And I, most of my carting backgroundwas in shifter cards, so getting
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in one of those was like, ah,this is like, this is awesome.
So much, like, so similar.
So it was a great introduction.
I read on your Wikipedia page about,as part of the development program, you
got coaching from Patrick Long, who is afriend of the museum and a very cool guy.
Yeah, pat has been awesome,like such a great resource for
me and he's a really cool guy.
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Like just so, so accessible, so chill,and I feel like I can, you know,
message him or call him and just belike, Hey, this is what's going on.
Like, how do you think I should handle it?
Like, what should I do?
Like, do you have advice?
He is always like there to makesure that you as a driver and an
athlete are getting what you need.
Like he's going to always put youfirst and want the best for you
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as a person regardless of all theother things that lie out there.
Because you know, at the end ofthe day, he's a race car driver.
He knows what we're going throughand he just wants to be like.
That mentor and give us advicethat, you know, he wished that
he would've had at the time whenhe was going through all of this.
So he's been a incredible resource and itwas super cool to see him in the F1 movie.
I thought that was, that wasa nice, uh, nice little cameo.
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He did a great job.
And, uh, yeah, we just had himas well at, we have a Porsche
driver combine every year.
Um, it's been the last couple years it'sbeen at Penske in, uh, Charlotte and he
came this year and kind of gave us a,an impromptu inspirational speech and
it was just great to have him there andI really appreciate all of the advice
and, uh, mentorship that he's provided.
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And there's someone you wannatalk to about driving Porsches.
He's the guy, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, Lauren, if we're name dropping,Patrick was on Evening with the legend,
along with another one of Sabres heroinesout there, and that's Margie Smith.
Ha.
And you guys did a video togetherabout generations of Porsche drivers.
You wanna talk about that a little bit?
What that video was about for thefolks that haven't seen it before?
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That was a super fun projectthat Porsche USA came to me
and Margie with and said, Hey.
This is such a powerful story, likewe're gonna bring in, you know,
the current driver and the one thatstarted blazing the trail and then has
this story with the Porsche family.
And we'd love to tell your storiestogether, introduce both of you to our
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Porsche community together and just sharethis awesome story that's kind of evolved
through the years and see how the growthhas happened for women in motor sports.
So it was actually really cool.
The director had this fun ideathat she didn't want us to meet.
Until they could capture it on camera.
So Margie and I were actually kept totallyseparate in the hair and makeup rooms.
Like I didn't see her, I didn'tget to talk to her like we went to
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dinner separately the night before.
They were like, no, we don'twant you guys to meet because
we wanna capture this moment.
On camera.
So they kept us separate.
We'd started shooting in the morning andthen I was in the car and they brought
Margie out onto the track on the sideof the track, and they captured the
moment of us meeting for the first time.
And it was so awesome.
Like I'd never met Margie before,obviously, and it was great to just.
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Meet her and see like how muchawesome experiences she had to share.
Just how much she still like lovedand appreciated the motor sports
experience she's had, and then theshared the love of the Porsche family
and how many great things she'sgotten to experience being involved
in such a strong community and like.
The support she receives and the greatthings that she has to say about the
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Porsche Club of America community andjust all the cool things that she got
to experience back in the day and howdifferent it was and like, you know,
the challenges, things that she dealtwith too, that are much better today,
but were, we do see some of the similartrends, but it was an incredible time
to get to spend with her and uh, I thinkthe video turned out great as well.
So, props to the Porsche, USAand their production team,
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'cause it turned out really well.
Do you plan to followin Margie's footsteps?
And be one of the very fewAmerican women to race at Lamont.
That's the plan.
That's always the dream, right?
So we'll see how, uh, how andwhen we can make that happen.
Okay, so quick pit stopbefore we transition.
What are your top three tracks to drive?
Now it's kind of a tie, but Brands,hatch, gp, circuit, and spa.
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For sure for a third one.
Um, I would say either,did I hear Watkins Glen?
Is that what she said?
I mean, I like WatkinsGlen, but I don't know.
I've never raced on Laguna Seca, so Idon't know if I can fully say that yet.
I would, I've, I've driventhere but never raced.
So like, I liked ASIN in the Netherlandsand I actually really enjoy Coda.
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So I don't know.
Those are kind of like.
All time for third, you likehaving a nice steep incline.
Apparently that's what youreally like between Coda and
Spa, that's what you really like.
Apparently.
Well, I'm a Colorado girl at heart.
That's right.
I'm like, I need my mountains.
I need, you know, I gottahave some elevation changes.
So if she could drive road Atlantabackwards, it'd be perfect.
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Oh, true.
Yeah.
Well, since Lauren opened the doorfor a pit stop, I got one for you.
We haven't asked this one.
Of one of our guests in quite a long time.
But since you have a mechanicalengineering degree, Sabre, you
are at the head of the boardroomtable, and two blueprints are slid
to you to decide on by your team.
One is the space forward 9 59, and theother one is the fire breathing F 40.
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Which one do you pick?
Hmm.
F 40 wins again, so, okay.
Explain why I feel like it'smore overall balanced and I
appreciate the arrow elements more.
Does that make sense?
It does.
We get a lot of differentanswers for this, and it tends
to be about the passion in F 40.
Yeah.
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Clinically, the 9 59 is betteron paper, but as a driver,
the F 40 is the car you want.
It makes you excited tothink about driving it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I guess my driver ultimatelytook over instead of the
engineer brain, but it's okay.
The score is way off intoFerrari's corner for that one.
But anyway.
Well, I wanted to know a little more aboutgetting ready for a typical race weekend.
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What your life lookslike as a racing driver.
What does the week upto the race look like?
What are you doing to getphysically, mentally prepared?
What kind of sponsorshipcommitments do you have?
And if you feel like you're adriver who actually kind of.
Gets juiced up by those kind ofevent commitments or you find
them draining and distracting.
I am naturally introverted.
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I appreciate my, uh, recharge time,but I definitely appreciate the fact
that I get the chance and I want tofeel grateful for those opportunities.
You know, before a race weekend where.
We're living in a space right now andyou know, it could change tomorrow,
but the fact that I have the chance tocreate an event that people are excited
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to show up at and meet me and see thecar like that is something special.
And so I, I really try to be gratefulfor those opportunities, but I will
admit, like it does wear you out.
So you just have to kind of manage yourenergy going into a race weekend, kind
of as we talked about earlier, I tryto do too many things pretty often.
I'm definitely the overcommitmenttype, so I've been working on doing
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a little bit less or like a littleless stress going into race weekends,
creating a better tapering mental andphysical load going into a race weekend.
It is challenging 'cause as a race cardriver, like you wanna do a great job
for your partners on and off the track.
And so having those,creating those events.
Doing those activations before a raceweekend is really important to continue
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to build not only my brand, but alsoconnect my sponsors to more people.
So it's definitely a fine line thatyou have to walk to have balance.
What's something about a career as adriver that would surprise most people
who have regular nine to five jobs?
Well, I think most people don'trealize that we don't get paid
to race except for, unless you'resome of the elite few, right?
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Like you have to bring, whether that's.
Family money, uh, which is oftenthe case, or you bring corporate
sponsorship to the team to race, likeyou're not sending in your resume.
There is obviously those situations wherethat does happen, but the majority of
racing happens by bringing funding tothe team and you have to work on getting
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paid outside of that, whether that'scoming from an extra amount that you
have in sponsorship dollars or that.
Mostly come from me from coaching,engineering, work, media, work,
sim coaching, all that extra stuff.
That's where you actually get paid,not necessarily from a team paying.
You talked about following in thefootsteps of people like Margie and
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others that have come before you.
Taking this information in mind, a lot ofpeople probably haven't thought of before.
What advice would yougive to young drivers?
Especially young ladies thatwanna follow in your footsteps.
For anybody, it's just reallyimportant to understand that
motorsports is a lifestyle.
It's not just a job.
It's not just about doing coolthings and going to cool places as
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much as like we do get to do that.
But it's important to, I think, tounderstand like the level of commitment
that it takes to be successful in motorsports and the sacrifices that you're
going to have to make to make your goals.
What, and that's not just as a driver,that's, you know, whether you're an
engineer or a mechanic, like those guys donot get enough appreciation for the hours
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and blood, sweat, and tears that have tobe put in to make our race cars go fast.
So I would just say beprepared to, to work hard to.
To make it your lifestyle, but alsothe other thing that I would say
is really important is to builda really good team around you.
Trying to do it all by yourself doesnot work no matter what industry you're
in, having the people that you knoware gonna be there in your corner and
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able to direct you in the right path.
I mean, it's instrumental foranybody, but especially for anybody
that's, you know, an athlete tryingto make their way in their sport.
In watching some of the lower seriesor even some of the, the people still
in carting, are there any young peopleyou have your eye on that you think we
should also be watching at this time?
I will be honest, it's been a longtime since I've been to a go-kart race.
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I, I think the last time I was maybecoaching at one last year, but it's been
a while, so I don't know if I have thebest inside scoop as far as carting goes.
But car-wise.
I would say, actually somebodythat's really impressed
me, her name is Anna Sini.
I'm gonna, I don't know how to sayher last name, but she just started
racing and she's in Porsche SprintChallenge first year in the GT four cars.
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I think this is like maybe her firstcompetitive or like really actual,
like more pro season in racing ever.
She didn't do carting nothing like, didlike a track day with her dad, and her and
her dad are like, let's do this together.
This will be fun.
And then she quicklybecame faster than her dad.
I think maybe they did like a WLrace or something like that, like
the year before, and now they'refull on in enforce Sprint challenge.
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She's winning consistently in the GTfour cars in Porsche Spring Challenge.
To have no background and to begoing in and doing that, I feel
like that's pretty impressive.
The other people that I would definitelysay impress me is the Hannah's.
If you don't know them, they'reteammates in SRO, traditionally,
Hannah Greenmeyer and Hannah Grisha.
Hannah Greenmeyer, I haveknown for a long time.
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She's a local Colorado girl as well.
Maybe a little bit of Coloradopride going on there, but she's
always been really, really fast.
Works really hard.
Her and Hannah Grisham are doinga really great job in the GT four
cars and have gotten some really,really solid results lately.
So I would say definitely,probably those are my top ones.
If you wanna think about over thepond though, I would probably say
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the two latest F1 Academy winners,Marta Garcia and Abby Polling.
I race with them in W seriesand they're both wicked fast.
Abby has Alice Powell as a mentor andI think she could do some, some great
things if given the right opportunities.
What's next for you?
What's next?
Well, immediately we have ourIndianapolis race coming up.
Event-wise, I will be doing an event atmy alma Mater, Colorado School of Mines,
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so I'm really looking forward to that.
But as far as overarching for nextyear, I actually can't give you an
answer because there's some, uh,interesting things in the works.
We'll see what comes to fruition, but Iwill be staying in the Porsche family,
but I just can't tell you where yet.
No spoilers.
No spoilers yet.
Well, Sabre, we've reached thatpart of the episode where I like
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to invite our guests to shareany shout outs, promotions.
Thank you.
Is there anything else thatwe haven't covered thus far?
All of my social media and anythingyou wanna learn about me and my
partners@Sabrecookracing.com.
And, uh, you can subscribeto my newsletter and go
check out my YouTube channel.
Whatever you wanna see is all foundin that one convenient location.
And that's wrap our conversationwith the incredible Sapr Cook.
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An inspiring force in motor sportswho proves that talent determination
and technical expertise are a winningcombination, both on and off the
track from her early days in kartingto competing on the global stage.
Sabre's story is one ofresilience, innovation, and
relentless passion for racing.
If you wanna keep up with Saber's journey,be sure to follow her on Instagram at
Saber Cook, Twitter at Sabre Cook andFacebook at Sabre Cook Racing, or find
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at mor website, saber cook racing.com.
With that Sabre, I can't thank youenough for coming on Break Fix.
I have to say you'remaking all the right moves.
You are a great role model foraspiring drivers, and hopefully
they will heed your advice.
From this episode, and wewish you continued success
in the Porsche Cup series orwhatever's going on with Porsche.
And let's manifest it right now, shall we?
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And when that comes to be, we hopeto have you back here for an evening
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I look forward to it.
It's gonna happen.
I'm gonna see you guys.
We'll, we'll, we'll make ithappen one day at a time.
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Welcome to Women of the Autos Sphere.
On Break Fix, we dive into thestories of trailblazers, engineers,
racers, designers, and disruptorswho are shaping the automotive
and motor sports industries.
From the pit lane to the boardroom,from concept sketches to championship
podiums, these women are drivingchange breaking barriers, and
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inspiring the next generation.
Whether you're a lifelong gearhead,a curious newcomer, or someone
who simply loves a good story.
You are in the right place.
This is more than a podcast.
It's a movement.
On this episode of Break FixesWomen of the Auto Sphere series.
We're thrilled to welcome SabreCook, a true force in Motorsports
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whose journey is as inspiring as itis impressive from her early days.
Karting a Colorado to breakingbarriers in open wheel racing.
Sabre has proven herselfboth on and off the track.
She's not only competed in Elite serieslike the W Series USF 2000 Entity
Pro 2000, but she's also balancedher racing career with a background
in mechanical engineering, workingwith some of the biggest names in
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the automotive industry, in a sportwhere talent, tenacity and technical
skill must work in perfect harmony.
Sabre embodies the full package pavingthe way for the next generation of
women in racing, and we'll dive intoher path, her perseverance, and her
vision for the future of motor sports.
And joining me tonight is returningco-host Lauren Goodman, associate curator
of exhibitions at the Revs Institute,and one of the many personalities
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here at the Motor Inc Podcast Network.
So welcome back.
Good to be here.
And with that, let's welcomeSabre officially to break fix.
Hi guys.
I feel so inspired and like sogood after that introduction.
Like you guys should just come be my peptalk team before I get in the race car.
Like that was great.
Well be the flavor.
Flave.
The fla, the Flavor Flav.
You gotta wear the giant clock though.
Well Sabre like all break Fixx stories.
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There's a super heroineorigin story out there.
So take us back to your.
Earliest memories of carting in Colorado.
And what first sparkedyour passion for racing?
Did you come from a racing family?
I did.
I was super lucky tohave a pretty cool dad.
He used to race motocross andSupercross professionally back in
the eighties, and he and my momdid not want me racing motorcycles.
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So compromised with fourwheels 'cause it's much safer.
So I appreciate that.
Now I have a lot less broken bonesthan I probably would have otherwise.
That's how we got started.
Got into carting just as far, Iwas eight years old, so I guess the
heroine story started with my dadbeing my hero and just loving racing
and wanting to get involved in that.
And I was also born on Supercross Sunday,so my parents, they used to host like a
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local Supercross events in our hometown.
And my mom went into laborthe morning of the big race.
So she went to the hospitalinstead of to, to the racetrack.
It was kind of, uh, it was inevitablecarting at a young age, especially
a young lady in carting, you know,and motorsport, as we know, is a male
dominated sport, but that is changing.
We're seeing parody in multipledisciplines of motorsport
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throughout the world.
What was it like for you competingat that level and then moving up
further and further into racing?
It was challenging at times, beingeither the only woman or one of a couple.
It definitely made you have adifferent experience growing up
than maybe your peers that wouldbe involved in a space that had
more women or more representation.
But I think I learned so much frombeing in those spaces and I had
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to learn how to kind of createmy own s. In a place that wasn't
traditionally expecting me to be there.
So, and I, and I really loved the factthat I got to do a lot of my younger
years with my dad and he was a greatmentor for me and helped me kind of, you
know, navigate the challenges and thatanybody goes through in racing, right.
Male or female, just the challengesand you know, the mental and physical
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struggles that you go through as anathlete and finding your way through
and and moving up towards the top.
So yeah, it was challenging,but it was, it was great.
So we talked to a lot of younger driverswho came up in a similar way that you did.
Maybe they started in carting orthey went into junior dragsters
or midgets or something like that.
And there's always thisbalance that has to be struck.
Not only just.
Within the family, like, Hey,how far are your parents going
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to support you and push you?
But with schooling, so you started cartingat eight years old and what we tend to
find is kids that young do racing in fitsand spurts because as you move to middle
school and high school and schoolinggets in the way, we're gonna talk about.
Your mechanical engineering degreeas the punchline here, but how did
that work for you as you continued tofollow your passion but also go into
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a field like mechanical engineering?
Definitely.
It wasn't easy, and I'm stillhonestly transparently, I
tried to do too many things.
Like I was the kid that, Ican't remember how old I was.
I had like a complete meltdown to my mom.
'cause I was like, Ijust wanna do everything.
Like I don't wanna have to choose.
So that, that was a problem Ihad very early on in my life.
But I guess I just.
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Tried to lean into, you know, myteachers and peers around me to say,
Hey, this is something I really wannado, and this is like a passion for me.
But obviously I really care aboutschool, like I love learning.
That's like one of the biggest thingsfor me, is I'm always like really eager
to learn and continue to get better atwhatever it is or learn about new things.
So I just leaned into my peers,my professors, my family to say,
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how can I optimize this situationto be able to chase both of them?
And it was definitely some sleeplessnights for sure, too many times,
especially as I got older and you know,in high school and then into college.
But when I was young, it definitely,it did have those little spurts where
there was maybe more racing and thenthere was more school and I didn't get
to drive or drive as much as I would'veliked to or wanted to or should have been
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driving because there is that balanceand you have to learn also, like as a
young sports person, you start to learnlike what it really takes the level
of commitment that you have to have tostart to perform at that high level.
How much it really means thatyou need to be consistent, and
how much it really means thatyou need to commit time to that.
That was something that everybodyI feel like you go through when
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you're younger is, you know, youdon't get the results that you want.
And the hard reality is, okay, wellyou've gotta commit the time that
those top, top people are committing.
And that's really the only way aroundit is you've gotta be there and
you've gotta be willing to put inthose, you know, the 10,000 hour rule.
You've gotta be willing toput in the time to get there.
So did you have one of thoseawkward conversations with
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your guidance counselor?
That was, Hey, I wannabe a race car driver.
And then they said, youshould find a career.
To back that up.
Did the race car driving begetbecoming a mechanical engineer?
Was the engineering always there for you?
Actually, I was one of those weird kidsthat I liked school, I liked math and
I liked science, and there was nevera question in my mind at any point.
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Oh, I don't wanna do school.
I don't wanna pursue likegoing and getting a degree.
It was always a plan of mine and myparents obviously heavily encouraged
it 'cause it was important for them.
Nobody else in my family up untilthat point had ever gone to college.
So I was the first generationstudent and had to kind of go through
the, the learning curve of that.
Right?
'cause nobody had been through it, but.
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For them.
It was such an important goal to beable to put their kids into college and
have that degree in something that youcan go and take and build a life on.
It was never a matter of if itwas gonna happen, it was just like
when and what it was gonna be.
And pretty quickly I decided itwas gonna be something that was.
STEM oriented.
That was pretty clear, honestly,probably from the third grade on.
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And then it just became more clearlater in my high school when I took
a mechanical engineering class.
And then I was like, youknow what, this makes sense.
And we have a really great engineeringschool in Colorado that's one of the
top engineering universities in the us.
So in-state tuition was allabout that, save the money.
So it became, uh, an easychoice to apply there.
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And actually, I don't know if thiswas a dumb thing or just a bold
thing, but I only applied there.
I didn't have any backups.
I was like, I'm going here.
This is what's happening.
Have you been able to apply what youlearned from your mechanical engineering
degree in your racing, or do you seeavenues for potential to exercise your
degree in motor sport at some point?
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So, I mean, I've worked.
For teams in a designcapacity in motorsports.
So I've, I have used it.
But as far as like you mean using itspecifically as a driver, like those
scientific principles and practices andthe way you analyze and break things down.
As an engineer, how do youapply that to your driving?
I am definitely much moreanalytical in my approach to things.
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I have very structured and rigorous.
Debrief sheets and like the way thatI log, like say a testing event, I
have a workbook that I haven't reallyseen a lot of other drivers have, and
so I have like an an Excel workbookwhere I have multiple tabs and I log
as much tangible data as I can without.
Making my engineer brain overthink.
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Like when you get in the racecar, you've gotta be totally free.
Like you need to not overthink things.
It needs to be more natural, like itneeds to just sort of happen and you've
gotta be allowing your body to takeover and the muscle memory to take over.
Because if you drive with your consciousmind, it's always gonna be slower
than driving with your subconscious,really making sure that the analytical
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engineering brain stays in its lane.
But it is very beneficial whenI get out of the car to look.
At video and data and try tonarrow down what are the big things
that we need to be focused on?
What's me, what's the car?
And just being able to have like aclear debrief and logging system,
that then allows me to look backon trends and past experiences to
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then move forward more quickly.
This reminds me a lot of Mark Donahue.
The great Porsche driver, that'swho it reminds me of, who also
had an engineering degree.
And we have, at the museum, we havehis notebooks that he kept where he
kept all, he logged every single noteabout every single lab, about the cars.
He was testing for Roger Penske.
So I think you, you would'vebeen two Ps in a pod, you and
Mark Donahue, it sounds like.
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And they're all the graph papernotebooks, and it's all like very,
very lined up and very organized.
Not like my handwriting at all.
So I think the two of you.
Would've gone on like gangbusters.
But I'm also thinking you're talking abouthaving to turn off the conscious mind
and just feel and engage with the car.
Do you find it harder to do that whenyou understand how cars are designed and
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engineered, or do you trust the car morenow that you understand the tolerances?
No, I think it's harder if youunderstand because it just gives
you a bigger range to think about.
Like first thing that comes tomind is like Adam and Eve, right?
You don't know what you don'tknow till you bite the apple and
then all of a sudden you likethink about all these things.
So in some ways I think it definitely.
It gives you just a differentperspective, different range to
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think about when you're driving.
And I definitely have to check myself andI, I always go in and preface whenever I
start working with an engineer, like I'mlike, look, I don't wanna do your job.
I'm going to try to likekeep myself in my lane.
Definitely let me know,like if you're like.
Sabre, like, let me take this over.
Like, you don't need to worry aboutengineering the car right now.
Like actually this just happenedin, in a test that we just had,
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my engineer had to remind me.
He's like, Hey, your job isto just give me feedback about
balance of the car in this moment.
I don't want you to stress and feel likeyou need to help me solve the problem.
And that's also like.
Typical, I feel like girl, like peoplepleasing, like I always wanna help,
like I wanna contribute kind of thing.
So it's, it's definitely, I've veryhelpful to have like my engineer that I, I
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work with this year, I work with very welland he's also has a driving background.
So I think that's also whywe work really well together.
'cause he understandswhat I'm going through.
It is a challenge sometimes to keep them.
In the right lanes.
And I'm glad you brought thatup because Motorsport has been
at the forefront of technology.
I mean, we can make arguments aboutplanes, trains, and automobiles being
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the things that drive technology forward,but racing, especially Formula One, and
then you kind of counter that with thehypercar at Lamont, things like that
are always cutting edge technology.
And so as we wrap up this thought onmechanical engineering and keeping that
lens on for just a little bit longer,when you look at the modern cars.
You're in sports car and endurance racing,which is gonna be a little bit different
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because you're based on production cars.
But when you look at the technology that'sout there, is there much more to give?
Is it all just finesse and fine tuning?
Unlike the old days where it waslike these radical inventions and the
Formula One used to be at the heightof experimentation, where now it's a
little bit more like a spec series.
So if you look at it not as a driver.
But as an engineer, what's thetechnology look like out there
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right now on the race field?
Obviously, like you said in theseries that I'm in with Horse Career
Cup and like the INS hepatic, it isa little bit more rained in except
for maybe the GTP side of things.
But as far as like anything that hasto do with GT three cars, LMP two a
little bit, at the end of the day, itcomes from a production or an OEM car.
It has to be within reason.
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Like it can't be this like.
Craziness because the factoriesneed to justify like why are we
putting an investment and researchinto racing if we're not even
gonna put it in our road cars?
'cause at the end of the day, that'sultimately how they justify racing all
the time is this is supposed to helppush our road car technology forward
with Formula One though, I feel like thereason why, maybe like back in the day
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when you referenced you had all thesecrazy monster machines and everything.
The engineering field wasstill very much developing.
There was like this big growth ofthings like they were learning really.
Like it got to the point where therewas like so much horsepower, right?
But then they realized, oh, it doesn'treally matter if you can go really fast
if we can't harness that, you know,with the brakes and the suspension and
like optimizing the package as a whole.
So once those two kind of like caughtup to each other, there became kind
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of this like, it's almost like anexponential growth and now it's kind
of like flat lining a little bit.
And now where the biginnovations are happening is in
efficiency and sustainability.
So like a lot of the new rules that arehappening in Formula One is I think it's
a gas that has to be made from food waste.
Yeah.
All the teams need to be able tocreate their own fuel and utilize that.
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I can't remember what yearit starts implementing.
Maybe 20, 29.
So like that's a big thing.
Obviously the hybrid system, like allthe energy recovery systems, stuff like
that to make the cars unfortunatelyquieter, but more sustainable.
It's important because it helps us.
Yes.
Obviously F1 is a big show and it doeshave like its own carbon footprint to
be this big show, but they are realizingthat they need to take into account
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what current global needs are, andso I feel like it's another way for
racing to justify to be racing, right?
It's like, okay, well if this is thecurrent technology and the issues
that are important to people rightnow is sustainability and all these
things, so we need to utilize thisracing platform to be able to push that
technology if that's where it's at.
Right?
Alright, now I'm gonna ask you totake that mechanical engineering
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fedora off your head and just flingit across the room like a Frisbee and
talk to me like a race car driver.
And what I'm driving to hereis balance of performance.
'cause the argument is thebalance of performance isn't about
engineering, it's about rules.
And putting on a goodshow, as you said, right?
So your thoughts on BOP, I mean, it'snecessary so that way all manufacturers
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can essentially compete in a levelplaying field, but it, it's always hard.
Not everyone is gonnaalways be happy, right?
There's always gonna be checks andbalances and that's how endurance.
Racing is going to be until you makeit like a spec series like Porsche
Career Cup where there is a, a such asmaller window, it's all the same cars.
So it's unfortunately part of it,it's how it works, so that way more
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players can stay in the game inwhich we don't wanna eliminate that.
Right?
Like it's important to have thatmany manufacturers, as many as
possible in the world of racing.
'cause it's just better for the sport,it's better for the fans and it's
better for, for us as race car drivers.
Switching gears from theengineering side to the money side.
The other thing that fuels racing.
The main thing that fuels themain thing since time immemorial.
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If it ain't daddy's money, it's somebodyelse's money that's fueling the racing.
Exactly.
So when you move from carting to thelower formula, that was requiring
a step up in terms of the financialcommitment from your family, from
sponsors, what's the most challengingpart of putting together sponsorships?
So, so many areas.
For reference, I didn't start racingcars until I was almost 23 years old
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because I had an amazing family that wasvery supportive, and they did help quite
a bit with my carting side of things.
But it got to the point whereI had to sustain that through
sponsorships and support from thefactory teams, even in carting.
And so jumping up to that nextlevel of budget in car racing.
Was outta the question, so I didn'tgo to cars until very late, like 23
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is like way old to start your carcareer comparatively to, you know,
people starting at 14, 15 years old.
Now, going into car racing, I didn't havethat opportunity until I found a sponsor
that was willing to put me in their car.
So I had to very quickly andhaphazardly figure out how to put.
A much larger corporate sponsorshipprogram together very quickly because
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without me putting the corporatesponsorship together, there was no
racing, there was no family money.
There was not like it wasn't gonna happen.
It was either figure it outlike baptism by fire, or uh, go
back and go be an engineer andforget about your racing dreams.
I obviously made a lot of mistakes.
I tried to figure it out, but I would saythe the biggest thing to understand about
sponsorship is at the end of the day,it's about telling your story, building
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a story that resonates with people, andgetting people to buy into that story and
using that story to help someone meet.
Some need.
And if you're able to marry thosetogether, you can make a very powerful
partnership that will last longer.
Like it's a business, right?
But ultimately businesses aremade of people and people just
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need a emotional justificationto choose to be a part of your.
Program.
So yes, it's important to show a returnon investment, but at the end of the day,
it is about them liking you as a personand believing in you and your story and
wanting to become a part of that story.
I think that's the biggest thingthat I've realized about sponsorship.
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We got a chance to meet atthe Women with Drive Summit.
Sponsored by wna had a great time and I,I love how they emphasize the coaching
of young women drivers and to do thingslike sponsorships, how to go out and put
together their sponsorships and theirpackage in order to fund their careers.
And one of the things they talked about,it is still a discussion about sponsors
still hesitated to fund women drivers.
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At the same rate they fund male drivers.
Have you seen that change justin the time you've been driving?
Do you think there's been some movementor not enough movement, but some movement?
Absolutely.
I think women in sport in general are,uh, getting more sponsorship dollars
if we just look at the data 'cause.
I like to just look at the data.
In the past, traditionally, womenglobally have received less than
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1% of sports sponsorship dollars.
That was a few years ago, and now Ithink we're maybe up between four to 6%.
So that's like a big jump.
It's still like extremely skewed, butthat is progress and I've definitely
seen it in more tangible ways.
Like by me being involved in W Series andnow being a part of the Porsche Mobile
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one female driver development program.
There are definitely thingsthat are moving and shifting.
It's just gonna take time toreach more of an equality level.
Which brings me to W Series.
I'd love to know more about yourexperience moving into that, and
I just realized that I saw youdrive at Coda in W series in 2021.
Yeah, there were two, two races that year.
Moving on to what really isa global stage like that.
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Did it feel like they were justdialing up the intensity or did it
feel like a completely differentbeast altogether before WS series,
I'd actually raced on a Formula oneweekend previously with U SF four.
So I did race at code like oh.
I'd been part of a an F1weekend in that respect.
But obviously WS series waskind of the next step up.
We were very much in the public eye,became, you know, this new thing that
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everyone's like, how's this gonna go?
Like, what's going on?
And kind of the first of its kind.
It was incredible because.
Yes, I know a lot of people had theiropinions about it and they have their
opinions on F1 Academy, but as a racer,as we just talked about, corporate
sponsorship is my bread and butter,and the only way I can chase my goals.
So to have WS series come in and say,Hey, here's an opportunity to race
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an F three car on a global stage.
You don't have to pay.
Any of it, and you will get paid.
All you have to do is qualify andbe one of the fastest drivers.
Like you say that to any race car driver.
They're like, oh, okay, let's go.
Where do I sign up?
So for me it was, yes, I don't lovethe idea of the all women's thing
because at the end of the day, wewanna be fighting just to be the
top full stop, no gender involved.
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But until WS series, I'd neverhad a full season of car racing.
So that became my first.
Opportunity to actuallyhave my first full season.
So without that, no matter what youropinion is on it, it was so revitalizing
for myself and so many other womenthat were a part of it, who otherwise
were going to be on the sidelines.
A huge step in terms ofvisibility, if nothing else.
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Absolutely.
So I've been following alongwith the Academy as well.
Do you think the Academy model is animprovement on the W Series model?
I think that it has definitely engagedthe F1 fan base more, and that has
been helpful, that it is branded withthe Formula One brand and it has that
giant behind it that has been positivebecause it's given it more reach.
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The only thing that is, I don't wannasay a step backwards, but it's not as
beneficial to the drivers, is that it'snot as much based off of qualifying
to be one of the fastest in the seats.
You still have to bring money.
Not like W Series where it's like youshow up as a pro, you get paid to drive
and you don't have to bring any money.
F1 Academy is a little bit of adifferent structure, and it's also F four
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cars, so the cars are slower as well.
It's like kind of give and take, butI think ultimately, like in the long
run, I hope that it's going to createthis ladder to having more women
performing at the top in the road to F1.
Tell us about the Porschedevelopment program and how
you got involved with that.
Porsche Motor PORs, north America didn'thave a female driver development program
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until 2023 when I became the foundingmember and the only member in 2023 when
I became the first female to race in thePorsche Career Cup North America series.
So it was really actually supercool of Porsche to be intuitive
and they are paying so muchmore attention than you realize.
Like when I was first looking at theidea of going into Porsche Kera Cup,
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who, by the way, the reason why thishappened was because of Lynn St. James,
who is one of the co-founders of wna.
She said, Hey, you know, thislooks like a great series.
Like it's super competitive.
It has a lot of potential to put youin a good spot to then build into stuff
long term in the sports car world.
And so I was like, okay, like let's.
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Take a look at it.
Let's see what it is.
We wouldn't announce anything.
There was nothing publicgoing on, but OSHA just paying
attention to what was happening.
They realized, Hey, what's going on?
You wanna race in the series?
And so the fact that they just like, werepaying so much attention to realize that
without any sort of formal conversationand say, Hey, okay, you wanna do this?
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How can we help you do this?
And then even bringing their owncorporate partners in to make it happen.
What other OEM is really actuallydoing something like that.
So I felt like incredibly thankful andgrateful for them to want to create that
space and then not just stop with mebeing in the series, you know, and be
like, oh, that box checked done right.
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Like every year with the help of mobileone, they've expanded the program and
now I think there's like seven of us.
Now total in the PorscheMotorsports North America ladder.
So it's grown so much andit's growing every year.
They're just getting better aboutproviding us with new things to
learn more resources or workshops.
It's been an awesomething to be a part of.
After doing a couple of seasons of OpenWheel and making the switch to Porsche
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Cup racing, what was that transition like?
Do you like production based racing orsports car racing over the open wheel, or
do you still kinda long for the days ofbeing in an open wheel car as a driver?
Right.
Sports car racing.
Ultimately it's a street car thatgets kind of turned into a race car.
And a formula car is a purposebuilt, born bred race car.
So it's meant to do all theall the right things, right?
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So it is very challenging to jumpinto a sports car world after being
in the open world world and cominginto a car that you have to think
your way around more because a nine11, especially it's engineered wrong,
the engine is buying the rear wheels.
I'm, I'm glad you said it, not me.
It's fine.
They know it.
It's the legacy, right?
Like it is what made Porsche.
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Porsche.
So it is a very challenging car,but it makes drivers, it gives
them a bigger toolbox to pull from.
Because it is challenging and you dohave to really be in tune with using
your tools in the car and driving thecar with your feet, using your driver
tools to really help the balance.
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Like I feel like there's not alot of production cars that are at
the same level of Porsche Car Cup,where it really pushes the driver to
evolve and develop in the same way.
That's why, you know, they sayif you can be fast in a nine 11.
You can be fast in anything.
After my experience being in the careercup, going back and driving anything
that I would've driven before, like openwheel, I'm a hundred percent faster.
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So like it's made me a betterdriver because it's given me a
larger range of tools to utilize.
It's been challenging, but ithas definitely made me grow.
Coming off of the GT three based nineelevens, the modern era stuff, nine.
Nine ones nine, nine twos and things likethat, have you been able to get behind
the seat of a classic analog nine 11and kind of compare and contrast what
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the new cars are like versus what someof your heroes have driven in the past?
The first Porsche I ever drove.
It's kind of analog, maybe likeit still has some, like in theory
it has like a blip, but it's likea mechanical blip where it has,
actually, the thing that pushes thegas pedal down is the UH, 9, 9 7.
So that was the first GTthree cup car I'd ever driven.
The sponsor that I mentioned that putme in my first race car, it was his.
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So I was destined, I guess,to find my way into a Porsche
eventually, one way or another.
But that was my first experiencein a Porsche TT three Cup car.
And I loved it because it's super raw.
Like the 9, 9 7 is a shorter wheel base.
We've really aggressive with it.
And I, most of my carting backgroundwas in shifter cards, so getting
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in one of those was like, ah,this is like, this is awesome.
So much, like, so similar.
So it was a great introduction.
I read on your Wikipedia page about,as part of the development program, you
got coaching from Patrick Long, who is afriend of the museum and a very cool guy.
Yeah, pat has been awesome,like such a great resource for
me and he's a really cool guy.
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Like just so, so accessible, so chill,and I feel like I can, you know,
message him or call him and just belike, Hey, this is what's going on.
Like, how do you think I should handle it?
Like, what should I do?
Like, do you have advice?
He is always like there to makesure that you as a driver and an
athlete are getting what you need.
Like he's going to always put youfirst and want the best for you
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as a person regardless of all theother things that lie out there.
Because you know, at the end ofthe day, he's a race car driver.
He knows what we're going throughand he just wants to be like.
That mentor and give us advicethat, you know, he wished that
he would've had at the time whenhe was going through all of this.
So he's been a incredible resource and itwas super cool to see him in the F1 movie.
I thought that was, that wasa nice, uh, nice little cameo.
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He did a great job.
And, uh, yeah, we just had himas well at, we have a Porsche
driver combine every year.
Um, it's been the last couple years it'sbeen at Penske in, uh, Charlotte and he
came this year and kind of gave us a,an impromptu inspirational speech and
it was just great to have him there andI really appreciate all of the advice
and, uh, mentorship that he's provided.
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And there's someone you wannatalk to about driving Porsches.
He's the guy, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, Lauren, if we're name dropping,Patrick was on Evening with the legend,
along with another one of Sabres heroinesout there, and that's Margie Smith.
Ha.
And you guys did a video togetherabout generations of Porsche drivers.
You wanna talk about that a little bit?
What that video was about for thefolks that haven't seen it before?
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That was a super fun projectthat Porsche USA came to me
and Margie with and said, Hey.
This is such a powerful story, likewe're gonna bring in, you know,
the current driver and the one thatstarted blazing the trail and then has
this story with the Porsche family.
And we'd love to tell your storiestogether, introduce both of you to our
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Porsche community together and just sharethis awesome story that's kind of evolved
through the years and see how the growthhas happened for women in motor sports.
So it was actually really cool.
The director had this fun ideathat she didn't want us to meet.
Until they could capture it on camera.
So Margie and I were actually kept totallyseparate in the hair and makeup rooms.
Like I didn't see her, I didn'tget to talk to her like we went to
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dinner separately the night before.
They were like, no, we don'twant you guys to meet because
we wanna capture this moment.
On camera.
So they kept us separate.
We'd started shooting in the morning andthen I was in the car and they brought
Margie out onto the track on the sideof the track, and they captured the
moment of us meeting for the first time.
And it was so awesome.
Like I'd never met Margie before,obviously, and it was great to just.
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Meet her and see like how muchawesome experiences she had to share.
Just how much she still like lovedand appreciated the motor sports
experience she's had, and then theshared the love of the Porsche family
and how many great things she'sgotten to experience being involved
in such a strong community and like.
The support she receives and the greatthings that she has to say about the
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Porsche Club of America community andjust all the cool things that she got
to experience back in the day and howdifferent it was and like, you know,
the challenges, things that she dealtwith too, that are much better today,
but were, we do see some of the similartrends, but it was an incredible time
to get to spend with her and uh, I thinkthe video turned out great as well.
So, props to the Porsche, USAand their production team,
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'cause it turned out really well.
Do you plan to followin Margie's footsteps?
And be one of the very fewAmerican women to race at Lamont.
That's the plan.
That's always the dream, right?
So we'll see how, uh, how andwhen we can make that happen.
Okay, so quick pit stopbefore we transition.
What are your top three tracks to drive?
Now it's kind of a tie, but Brands,hatch, gp, circuit, and spa.
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For sure for a third one.
Um, I would say either,did I hear Watkins Glen?
Is that what she said?
I mean, I like WatkinsGlen, but I don't know.
I've never raced on Laguna Seca, so Idon't know if I can fully say that yet.
I would, I've, I've driventhere but never raced.
So like, I liked ASIN in the Netherlandsand I actually really enjoy Coda.
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So I don't know.
Those are kind of like.
All time for third, you likehaving a nice steep incline.
Apparently that's what youreally like between Coda and
Spa, that's what you really like.
Apparently.
Well, I'm a Colorado girl at heart.
That's right.
I'm like, I need my mountains.
I need, you know, I gottahave some elevation changes.
So if she could drive road Atlantabackwards, it'd be perfect.
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Oh, true.
Yeah.
Well, since Lauren opened the doorfor a pit stop, I got one for you.
We haven't asked this one.
Of one of our guests in quite a long time.
But since you have a mechanicalengineering degree, Sabre, you
are at the head of the boardroomtable, and two blueprints are slid
to you to decide on by your team.
One is the space forward 9 59, and theother one is the fire breathing F 40.
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Which one do you pick?
Hmm.
F 40 wins again, so, okay.
Explain why I feel like it'smore overall balanced and I
appreciate the arrow elements more.
Does that make sense?
It does.
We get a lot of differentanswers for this, and it tends
to be about the passion in F 40.
Yeah.
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Clinically, the 9 59 is betteron paper, but as a driver,
the F 40 is the car you want.
It makes you excited tothink about driving it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I guess my driver ultimatelytook over instead of the
engineer brain, but it's okay.
The score is way off intoFerrari's corner for that one.
But anyway.
Well, I wanted to know a little more aboutgetting ready for a typical race weekend.
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What your life lookslike as a racing driver.
What does the week upto the race look like?
What are you doing to getphysically, mentally prepared?
What kind of sponsorshipcommitments do you have?
And if you feel like you're adriver who actually kind of.
Gets juiced up by those kind ofevent commitments or you find
them draining and distracting.
I am naturally introverted.
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I appreciate my, uh, recharge time,but I definitely appreciate the fact
that I get the chance and I want tofeel grateful for those opportunities.
You know, before a race weekend where.
We're living in a space right now andyou know, it could change tomorrow,
but the fact that I have the chance tocreate an event that people are excited
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to show up at and meet me and see thecar like that is something special.
And so I, I really try to be gratefulfor those opportunities, but I will
admit, like it does wear you out.
So you just have to kind of manage yourenergy going into a race weekend, kind
of as we talked about earlier, I tryto do too many things pretty often.
I'm definitely the overcommitmenttype, so I've been working on doing
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a little bit less or like a littleless stress going into race weekends,
creating a better tapering mental andphysical load going into a race weekend.
It is challenging 'cause as a race cardriver, like you wanna do a great job
for your partners on and off the track.
And so having those,creating those events.
Doing those activations before a raceweekend is really important to continue
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to build not only my brand, but alsoconnect my sponsors to more people.
So it's definitely a fine line thatyou have to walk to have balance.
What's something about a career as adriver that would surprise most people
who have regular nine to five jobs?
Well, I think most people don'trealize that we don't get paid
to race except for, unless you'resome of the elite few, right?
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Like you have to bring, whether that's.
Family money, uh, which is oftenthe case, or you bring corporate
sponsorship to the team to race, likeyou're not sending in your resume.
There is obviously those situations wherethat does happen, but the majority of
racing happens by bringing funding tothe team and you have to work on getting
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paid outside of that, whether that'scoming from an extra amount that you
have in sponsorship dollars or that.
Mostly come from me from coaching,engineering, work, media, work,
sim coaching, all that extra stuff.
That's where you actually get paid,not necessarily from a team paying.
You talked about following in thefootsteps of people like Margie and
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others that have come before you.
Taking this information in mind, a lot ofpeople probably haven't thought of before.
What advice would yougive to young drivers?
Especially young ladies thatwanna follow in your footsteps.
For anybody, it's just reallyimportant to understand that
motorsports is a lifestyle.
It's not just a job.
It's not just about doing coolthings and going to cool places as
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much as like we do get to do that.
But it's important to, I think, tounderstand like the level of commitment
that it takes to be successful in motorsports and the sacrifices that you're
going to have to make to make your goals.
What, and that's not just as a driver,that's, you know, whether you're an
engineer or a mechanic, like those guys donot get enough appreciation for the hours
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and blood, sweat, and tears that have tobe put in to make our race cars go fast.
So I would just say beprepared to, to work hard to.
To make it your lifestyle, but alsothe other thing that I would say
is really important is to builda really good team around you.
Trying to do it all by yourself doesnot work no matter what industry you're
in, having the people that you knoware gonna be there in your corner and
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able to direct you in the right path.
I mean, it's instrumental foranybody, but especially for anybody
that's, you know, an athlete tryingto make their way in their sport.
In watching some of the lower seriesor even some of the, the people still
in carting, are there any young peopleyou have your eye on that you think we
should also be watching at this time?
I will be honest, it's been a longtime since I've been to a go-kart race.
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I, I think the last time I was maybecoaching at one last year, but it's been
a while, so I don't know if I have thebest inside scoop as far as carting goes.
But car-wise.
I would say, actually somebodythat's really impressed
me, her name is Anna Sini.
I'm gonna, I don't know how to sayher last name, but she just started
racing and she's in Porsche SprintChallenge first year in the GT four cars.
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I think this is like maybe her firstcompetitive or like really actual,
like more pro season in racing ever.
She didn't do carting nothing like, didlike a track day with her dad, and her and
her dad are like, let's do this together.
This will be fun.
And then she quicklybecame faster than her dad.
I think maybe they did like a WLrace or something like that, like
the year before, and now they'refull on in enforce Sprint challenge.
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She's winning consistently in the GTfour cars in Porsche Spring Challenge.
To have no background and to begoing in and doing that, I feel
like that's pretty impressive.
The other people that I would definitelysay impress me is the Hannah's.
If you don't know them, they'reteammates in SRO, traditionally,
Hannah Greenmeyer and Hannah Grisha.
Hannah Greenmeyer, I haveknown for a long time.
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She's a local Colorado girl as well.
Maybe a little bit of Coloradopride going on there, but she's
always been really, really fast.
Works really hard.
Her and Hannah Grisham are doinga really great job in the GT four
cars and have gotten some really,really solid results lately.
So I would say definitely,probably those are my top ones.
If you wanna think about over thepond though, I would probably say
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the two latest F1 Academy winners,Marta Garcia and Abby Polling.
I race with them in W seriesand they're both wicked fast.
Abby has Alice Powell as a mentor andI think she could do some, some great
things if given the right opportunities.
What's next for you?
What's next?
Well, immediately we have ourIndianapolis race coming up.
Event-wise, I will be doing an event atmy alma Mater, Colorado School of Mines,
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so I'm really looking forward to that.
But as far as overarching for nextyear, I actually can't give you an
answer because there's some, uh,interesting things in the works.
We'll see what comes to fruition, but Iwill be staying in the Porsche family,
but I just can't tell you where yet.
No spoilers.
No spoilers yet.
Well, Sabre, we've reached thatpart of the episode where I like
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to invite our guests to shareany shout outs, promotions.
Thank you.
Is there anything else thatwe haven't covered thus far?
All of my social media and anythingyou wanna learn about me and my
partners@Sabrecookracing.com.
And, uh, you can subscribeto my newsletter and go
check out my YouTube channel.
Whatever you wanna see is all foundin that one convenient location.
And that's wrap our conversationwith the incredible Sapr Cook.
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An inspiring force in motor sportswho proves that talent determination
and technical expertise are a winningcombination, both on and off the
track from her early days in kartingto competing on the global stage.
Sabre's story is one ofresilience, innovation, and
relentless passion for racing.
If you wanna keep up with Saber's journey,be sure to follow her on Instagram at
Saber Cook, Twitter at Sabre Cook andFacebook at Sabre Cook Racing, or find
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at mor website, saber cook racing.com.
With that Sabre, I can't thank youenough for coming on Break Fix.
I have to say you'remaking all the right moves.
You are a great role model foraspiring drivers, and hopefully
they will heed your advice.
From this episode, and wewish you continued success
in the Porsche Cup series orwhatever's going on with Porsche.
And let's manifest it right now, shall we?
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One day Lama.
And when that comes to be, we hopeto have you back here for an evening
with a legend episode so you cantalk about your experiences at lama.
I look forward to it.
It's gonna happen.
I'm gonna see you guys.
We'll, we'll, we'll make ithappen one day at a time.
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