Season 1 Episode 12 - Lethwei and Powerviolence! - Breakfast of Champions

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Mike check.

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She could he check, check.
Adjust as necessary.
So we went and saw a third-eye blind a couple nights ago.
Yeah, I saw those videos.
And on the way in to, you know, Dos Equis,
there's, it's in Fair Park, so it's not the best neighbor.

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No, it's a great neighbor,
I don't know what you're talking about.
So the plan was to grab something to eat
between here and Arlington and there.
And I just like, you know, you get in that hurry
where you're like, I'm gonna go pick up friends.
So like, I'll go between here and I'll go get something.
And then you just like wanna get to your friends
so quickly that you just don't and go straight there.

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And you get your friends and you're like, start talking
and you don't realize that you're already
almost at the venue.
So we're like there and we still haven't got anything to eat
and Ali's like, I need a snack.
And I was like, okay.
I was like, there's a McDonald's right here.
There was like McDonald's, Jack in the Box
and Golden Chick like back to back to back.
And so then people in the back, our friends are starting

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to talk about how good the mini tacos are
at Jack in the Box.
And so Ali was like, go ahead, do it, do it,
pull in, pull in.
So like I pulled into the drive-through for Jack in the Box.
And as I'm pulling in, so like Jack in the Box,
it's like if you're driving on the right,
like there's a Jack in the Box on the right,
you pull in to the right.

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And as I'm pulling in, there's an unhoused person
coming out of the front door and like a manager
slash security guard following behind him
with a straight up gun in his face.
Damn.
Like pulled it out in his face, walking him down
in the entryway slash parking lot of the Jack in the Box.
That's insane.

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7.45 in the evening.
Like prime dinner time.
Yeah.
And so, yeah.
We did not get any Jack in the Box tacos.
We decided to go ahead and eat at the venue
and spend three times as much on Be Safe.
So that was my brush with violence this week.

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Wow, that's insane.
I don't know if I had any brushes with violence.
I saw some dried up shit on the side of a building.
Nice.
I don't know.
Was it white?
No.
It never is?
Like it was like a few hours old.
That's like the Mandela conspiracy theory thing is like,

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you're never gonna see white dog poop anymore.
It doesn't exist.
But then.
But step brothers.
Yeah, that was just what to say.
You gotta lick the white dog shit.
You're in big trouble though, pal.
I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast.
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
No.

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Yes.
Good morning and welcome to season one, episode 12
of Breakfast of Champions that Rolling Star
was brought to you by Delirium and.
White dog shit.
White dog shit.
This episode is our 12th episode in a series of episodes.

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A dozen.
Wow.
Baker's dozen, not yet.
Not yet.
Next one.
Lucky number 13.
Yeah.
So how you feeling after,
let's do a state of the union address.
How are you feeling after 11 episodes going
into the 12th episode of Breakfast of Champions?
I feel like maybe we're getting better,
but we're doing it.

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We're doing it.
Yeah.
I feel good about it.
We're consistent.
I think that's important.
Very much so.
I think the thing that's hard for me
and you might've tested this just
cause of like your work schedule,
but I record the podcast and I feel like really accomplished,

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but then like I forget to get it to Phil in a timely manner.
And then like, I feel like I'm rushing Phil.
And then Phil feels like he's rushing me
cause I like have to like put the audio overlay
on top of the video.
And then, so I have obsessive compulsive disorder
for those of you that don't know me in person.
So it really, really bothered me

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that this past week's episode didn't drop
right at six o'clock in the morning
whenever I've had all of the rest
of the 10 episodes drop before then.
And so that's just my own personal thing.
And I think there's probably only one other person
in the universe that actually noticed
that I didn't drop the episode right on time this past week.
So.
Yeah. You texted me apologizing.
I was like, I'm so sorry.

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And I was still asleep.
I had no idea.
I was like, uh, I'm.
You should have like came down really hard on me.
You'd be like, this is unacceptable.
Next time I will.
I'd be like, it should be there.
Six o'clock, no fails.
Five 59 and 58 seconds.
Yeah.
But I'm working on my OCD

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and I have a really great tool
that I never really employed before.
My therapist was like, just kind of shrug it off.
She was like, you know, all those fleeting thoughts
that kind of come through that like,
these are high expectations and be like,
ah, it's not going to be there on time.
There's going to be people that are like,
going to care that it's not there.
And then she's like, yeah, maybe so.

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You know, she's like,
just kind of go with that thought for a minute.
And I've been, yeah, maybe sewing it.
And it feels weird.
But then I also realized after the fact
that no one really cares that it's not there
right at six o'clock.
It was there like at 10 o'clock.
Yeah.
And then the, you know, the other thing is like,
we've been trying to do the video thing
and be consistent with that.
But like, it's really hard to get video up on YouTube.

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And so we're going to probably try that every other week.
So just kind of look to the YouTube channel
every other week for having the video component.
And then, you know, the podcast will still live on YouTube,
whether we have a video or not.
It'll just be, you know, a static picture
of our album art cover.
I think we might have a new static photo.

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Yeah, we definitely should.
Yeah.
If you follow us on the Instagram
and you see promotion for this week's episode,
you will see a lovely picture of our third co-hosts
that was remembered this time.
So.
Yeah, I forgot last week, but our third and fourth
unofficial co-hosts. Yeah, that's right.
Who's never been on the show.
That's right, brother.

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So yeah, check out the Instagram.
Go give us a follow if you don't already.
Yeah.
Or we're also on Twitter, Facebook.
The Faith-boo.
If you hear us munching,
it's because we have kind of a bigger breakfast this morning
and it's gonna take longer than like just a little donut
munch here or there.
We can give them authentic banana noises.
Yeah, give them the authentic banana noises.

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My daughter's gonna hate this.
I do ASMR now.
Yeah, so my daughter has like,
I think it's called mesophomia or something like that.
And she gets like irrationally enraged
when she hears certain like chewing noises and stuff.
Maybe we need to put a disclaimer over that.
We will, yeah.
Yeah.

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So like we have these things, they're called loop headphones
and they kind of like take out some of the static noise
and stuff and so she tries to like remember to put those on
at dinnertime because it's just like.
You know, and she's like, oh, I'm gonna kill you.
Like I love, she, and like, it doesn't matter.

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If you're 80 or eight, she's like,
she'll tell a grandma, she'll be like, hey man,
you need like, my father-in-law, she'll be like,
papa, chill out with the chew.
And then she'll tell my six-year-old,
she'll be like, okay, you need to go to the other room.
She doesn't, it's not, it's not.
That's amazing.
It's not a personal thing.
It's just like in every, but she hates everyone equally.

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I wonder if my mom has that.
Have you seen that meme where it's like,
back in my day, we didn't have mental illness.
And then it's like, it's like quick cuts of like,
you can't get on my couch.
It's only covered in plastic forever for a reason.
And it's like, no, it's like very specific.
I collect model trains and you're not allowed to touch them.

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Like, okay, it's called autism.
You just didn't know it before.
Yeah, no, it's really crazy.
Like I was actually thinking about that because I,
I didn't hear the word autism
until I moved to Texas in 2002.
Like I had never met an autistic person
that I know of before that point, like, or the.

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Oh, you did.
They just, they weren't labeled or diagnosed.
Exactly.
And I remember like meeting autistic people
and just being like, oh, okay.
And like, I don't know, it's crazy.
Like being able to openly talk about like mental health,
mental illness, being on the spectrum,

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like all kinds of stuff.
Like it's very eye-opening compared to like,
even when we were growing up.
Which was, sure.
You know, maybe that long ago,
but maybe really not that long ago.
Yeah.
Unless things have changed.
When my grandmother passed away a couple months ago,

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there was like a time where it was just like me
and my dad at the house.
And we were just like, kind of in that weird,
like you don't know what to do.
You know, like you're in that waiting phase of like,
she's, we don't know when the funeral is gonna happen.
You know, we don't know what we can do.
It just like, it just happened.
You're processing and we're just kind of like

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listening to music and talking about good memories
and stuff like that.
And I had just seen this video and it was, I don't know.
Do you know the artist Fredigan?
Mm-mm, do not.
Okay, that's your next obsession.
Like I always put you on to like McGee and Dejan.
So like your next thing is Fredigan.
He's like this, he's a classically trained UK musician,

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but he makes like dance music slash like,
I don't know, EDM type music.
But what's cool about him is he has like these
self-imposed time limits.
Like he only allows himself like 30 minutes per track.
I love shit like that.
Me too, I think.
Like, yeah.
I like a band I think of from again,

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when I was a teenager is the Bronx.
That first album they recorded, three takes.
Yeah.
And like I love when people like impose certain things
on their art to like,
cause I feel like a lot of things under pressure,
they don't always turn out great,
but you can really get some gold
when there's pressure on the concept.

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So yeah, I love that kind of shit.
Well, it's just so,
so converse to how tightly I hold my art
and how like self like critiquing and aware I am of like,
and I have friends that like have albums worth materials
sitting on a hard drive that they'll never release
to the world because it's just like,
it's not perfect yet.

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You know, and it's like, okay, 13 years later,
it's still pretty good.
You should probably put it out there, but.
I know a handful of people like that too.
Yeah.
So I think it's really cool when you hear like,
Fredigan's like, oh no, 30 minutes and it's done.
If it's not done by then,
then it's not gonna be worth anything.
If it's worth something, it'll be done in 30 minutes
and we can move on to the next thing that's worth something
and the next thing that's worth something.
So he's collaborated with a lot of my favorite musicians.

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He, what's really cool too,
is he works with an engineer that kind of like puts
a lot of samples into his like his bank.
He uses like a touch drum pad.
And so he'll wind up remixing like current rap,
hip hop artists without really being super familiar,
like because he'll just like,

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like he's got a really cool baby Kim track.
He's got like a future track.
He's got a really cool stuff.
And so Fredigan's one of those artists where he spent,
I think like a year traveling with just his laptop
and would capture like real life sounds on his laptop
and conversations with people and like YouTube videos

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and like just things that he thought was like interesting
and cool and then he would like load those sounds up
into his like drum pad thing.
And so he's got like some of my favorite songs
from the past three or four years have been Fredigan songs.
But someone has this video in it.
If you're out there and you're struggling
and you love Fredigan, just go to YouTube

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and type in Fredigan, but it's therapy.
And it's just this mega mashup of like podcasts
and like they're like Theo Vons,
some of his stuff is on there.
It's one Fredigan song like,
and it's just him at the boiler room performing this song

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cut with like all these like podcasts,
people talking about mental health
and like speaking very candidly
about their own mental health.
And then the video kind of crescendos
into this big celebration of just like music and joy
and like it's gonna be okay and that sort of thing.
I put that on for just me and my dad after him,
like my grandma and I'm just sitting there,

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sitting in his bed, just like hitting my baby,
just weeping, you know.
And my dad's just like sitting there like looking at me
and then so we wrap it up and he just so like
gently and sweetly he's like,
why do you think that like your generation
is so open about mental health?
Because I could just like, you could just see
like he just has no frame of reference for that.

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I'm his frame of reference for discussing mental health
as like a everyday life topic.
And it's taken me 40 years to get to a point where like,
I'm barely now open with discussing like my mental
and being aware of like my mental health problems
and like trying to like, I don't know,
be in the day to day like throws of like mental health

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So yeah, so if you're, if you're sure,
we've talked about that the last couple of episodes
and I don't know why, like I just keep coming back to that,
I guess, because we were talking about just cool music
But yeah, Fredigan is therapy.
If you've never listened to Fredigan,
he's one of my favorite guys to listen to as far as like,
I mean, you could dance to his music,

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but you could also like, again, it's a really cool thing
where you could like put a motivational speech
on top of it podcast wise.
Yeah.
So last week, we ranked our top five Keanu Reeves movies.
There's this other, I told you about this,
that silly silly boy, Pete Holmes and his peers,

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Morbiers, he has this thing where he was,
this joke like naturally came about on his podcast.
They were talking about what if Keanu Reeves
played the piano and he was like,
ah, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

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and then like he naturally like wrapped up the melody
and he's like, da, da, I am Keanu Reeves like that.
And then he goes, I play piano keys.
And so like the rhyme of Keanu Reeves and piano keys,
dude, that joke like slayed me for the longest time.
So now sometimes I just say Keanu Reeves, Keanu keys.

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So our friend Jordan, who has already been texting me,
he's itching to be on this podcast.
Jordan, I promise you, we will get you on.
We'll do a full movie episode with him.
And that's the thing that he texts me this week
is he loves when we talk movies.
And he also has this like running dialogue
where when he listens to the show,
he immediately texts me out of nowhere
with no frame of reference to the fact

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that he's listening to the show
and just kind of like dives right into the conversation.
I get the same text.
A wrap up from last week, Jordan Klein,
shout out to the lead singer of our band Unspell.
You hear his voice at the beginning of every single episode
that we've ever done.
His top five Keanu Reeves movies, starting with five,
he's got Speed at number five.

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Which, come on Jordan.
He texted me the same list.
Oh, you got you the same list.
Okay, so you got Speed, Bill and Ted at four,
Constantine at three, Scanner Darkly at two,
and Point Break is number one for him.
And I said, freaking great list.
Dude's a genius.
Play a dummy slash be yourself and be righteous at all times

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and you will succeed.
He also just kind of dapped me up
for liking Scanner Darkly.
So yeah, so if you're out there listening and loving it,
send us your recommendations
of what your top five Keanu Reeves projects are.
Breakfast of Champs pod at gmail.com,
phone number 682-294-0101,

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Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, X, threads.
Or on threads.
I mean, I think you have to be,
if you're on like Instagram, kind of like,
you have to like, it ties into your account.
I've never gotten a threads account.
It's all Zuck, man.
It's all meta.
You have a threads account,
you just haven't activated it yet.

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I will never activate it.
Like, no.
So this week, last week you suggested Jackie Sean.
Yeah.
As our, let's run it, top five movies for Jackie Chan.
And I completely forgot till about,
you reminded me at like, what, 12 o'clock this morning?

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I was like, I'm missing something.
We're gonna talk about somebody.
So this whole plan of having like this week
to really delve into the artist.
I knew we were doing it.
I've been thinking about movies in my head,
but I hadn't been going back and looking at movies.
So like I pulled up his filmography on Wikipedia
and I haven't even looked at it yet.
So I'm really just going off of memory on.

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Sure.
Would you like me to go first since I kind of have like,
I touched up my memory on that?
Yeah, go for it.
Okay.
So I'm gonna just go,
I'm not gonna go five to one.
I'm just gonna freestyle.
That's kind of what I was gonna do too.
It's hard to rank.
Yeah.
I mean, where do you put rush hour versus like
police story too?
You know what I mean?
It's like, they're basically the same movie

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as far as like being a buddy comedy or whatever,
but it's like Hong Kong cinema versus American cinema
is so different.
So different.
And you know, like the humor and the romance
and like the tropes that are like built into Hong Kong cinema
and stuff like that,
like is not necessarily like holding fast
whenever it comes to stuff like American movies
So it's really hard to be like,

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is this movie the same as this movie?
You know?
So I think for me, the number one movie
that I wanna talk about when it comes to Jackie Chan
is Rumble in the Bronx.
Yes.
I think that is,
when I go back into the recesses of my memory,
when I think about like,
what is the first like kind of entry
into Jackie Chan movies for me personally,
I think it is Rumble in the Bronx.

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I, that's definitely one of my early ones.
I think they showed it on like USA or TBS or TNT.
Definitely, I was about to say,
it was definitely like a weekly or monthly showing
on cable TV, either like HBO or TNT USA.
Yeah, I feel like,
cause we didn't have HBO growing up,
but I remember there's a day where it was like a big deal

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because they were showing it either uncut
or something like that.
And they showed it multiple times in one day.
That was my like first memory of that movie
was watching it like on a Saturday afternoon
and just being like, whoa.
And they played it like back to back.
And I was like, that's insane.
Yeah, so if you've never seen Rumble in the Bronx,
do yourself a favor and check that out.

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It came out in 1995.
Basically it's,
this guy comes to visit his uncle in New York
and he's forced to fight like street gangs.
And so like the title's not just a clever title.
Like he legit is rumbling in the Bronx.
I actually showed Jackie Chan's The Prisoner

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on VHS the other day and I'd never seen it.
But the tagline on that is Rumble in the Prison.
Because it was like,
I'm pretty sure it was made and released
before Rumble in the Bronx,
but it didn't get a proper like US release
until after Rumble in the Bronx.
So they were trying to like capitalize.

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So for those of you youngsters,
whenever like in the 80s and 90s,
whenever there was like a big trend or fad,
you could kind of go back to your older catalog
and like spruce it up by putting the fatty stuff
into the older catalog and like kind of get some more sales
off of that.
So because we didn't have like the internet

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and stuff like that, we didn't know that like,
oh, this movie had already come out in Hong Kong,
but they could like repackage it and make it like kind of
fatty to whatever's happening in the States
and then like put it out on just VHS.
Exactly.
And they also would cut together movies.
Like there's certain movies of his that are like mashups
of three different movies that they just cut together

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and slapped a new title on.
I think that was the first like Bruce Lee thing
that I saw was the compilation of a couple
of different movies mashed together because like
of that very reason.
So Rumble in the Bronx is gonna be the first one.
It was the first one I talk about.
You good with that Rumble in the Bronx?
Rumble in the Bronx bringing on our list.

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Yeah, definitely, definitely a notable one.
Yeah.
We have release today.
So that would be my first customer of the day
lining up today.
We've got a live audience today.
Yeah.
Hey, Colin.
Shout out.
The next movie I'd like to talk about
whenever it comes to Mr. Jackie Chan,
I think would be, I mean,

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let's talk about the Rush Hour trilogy.
Cause I think that that is outside of Rumble in the Bronx,
maybe the next most accessible thing
whenever it comes to Jackie Chan to like the everyday person.
I think that if you've never seen a martial arts film,
if you've never seen another Jackie Chan film,
if you've maybe even never seen movies in general,

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you still know about Rush Hour.
You still know about like the cultural phenomenon
that happened whenever that movie came out.
Like if you lived through it,
like you couldn't escape like,
do you understand the words that are coming out of my mind?
Love it's such a black man radio.
Like all of the, like that stuff.
Yeah.
You couldn't escape that.
But also I think that like they like ran it into theaters,

(23:13):
released it and then played it on TV every day
for like 15 years straight.
Yeah.
Like I think it just didn't go off a TV
for like 15 years straight.
Like a TBS TNT, like if it wasn't,
cause like toggle back and forth between them.
So, but the first time I saw Rush Hour
had a wonderful time.
Oh yeah.

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Just an amazing rip roaring adventure,
hilarity, romance, action,
just like a cultural perfect movie for the time.
Do you remember, did you ever watch Shanghai noon?
Yes.
Like where they tried to play off
of the success of Rush Hour.
Yes.

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And, and Wild Wild,
like a combination of Rush Hour and Wild Wild West.
I was like, let's just get a buddy,
but it's gotta be Jackie Chan.
But then it's gotta go back to the Wild Wild West.
Yeah.
I actually rewatched that this past week.
Not on the list.
No, no, no, no.
Not on the list.
Yeah.

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Like I remember seeing it in theaters and liking it,
but watching it now like 25 years removed now.
How do you feel about the,
did you ever watch the tuxedo?
No, I never saw the tuxedo.
Okay.
It's not on my list,
but I did want to bring it up strictly because

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I watched it because Jennifer Love Hewitt, isn't it?
And I had like, have a humongous crush on her.
And it was like 2002.
It was like the year I graduated high school.
So I was like 18 year old boy, little man boy.
And Jennifer Love Hewitt decided to be in a movie
with Jackie Chan.
So.
Any, anything she's in, I'll watch.
Well, you haven't seen that.

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So.
Well, I didn't know she was in it.
I don't know why in my brain,
the tuxedo was like a Nickelodeon produced
like Jackie Chan movie, but.
It might, it might be Disney for all I know.
Yeah.
Like it.
I remember being, when it came out,
just kind of being like,
oh no, I'm above that in my Jackie Chan viewing.

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I only watch the Hong Kong shit.
Golden Harvest only.
So that's kind of what I was going to talk about too is,
is Jackie Chan,
is he better buddy comedy?
Or do you think that he is like definitely standalone
on his own?
Cause I think that we were introduced to him as a lot

(25:38):
as like buddy comedy, like definitely like with the
Rush Hour and the Shanghai's and like even some of the ones
where he's opposite a lady,
they're still kind of like his partner in crime
in those movies.
Even in police story.
Yes.
Yeah.
Is it more a language barrier thing
or is it his comfortability thing?
Like I'm the, like I'm the funny stunt guy.

(25:59):
I need a straight person or I need someone to play off of.
You think I'm just asking your opinion.
I don't know if you know his actual,
I didn't know if you had like interviewed him or anything.
Yes.
He's a, let me call him up.
We'll text him.
No, I mean, I think for the American releases
like Rush Hour and Shanghai Noon and every,

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you know, most of his like English language movies,
I think it is more like a language barrier.
Probably studio executives being like,
hey, this guy can't sell it on his own.
Like let's get a funny up and coming actor comedian
in there with him to balance it out.
I mean, and those movies like struck gold there.

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Everybody's seen them.
They made tons of money.
So like awesome.
But I do think that it's more of just like
Americanized movie making.
Yeah.
So we've got Rumble in the Bronx.
We've got the Rush Hour trilogy.
We've got honorable mention for the Tuxedo.

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There is two that I wanted to mention that are on my list,
whether you want to rank them kind of one, two,
I think that they're two, one, one, two.
That's going to be the Drunken Master.
And then Police Story, one and two.
I mean, they kind of are like,
to me they have to go together because they're, you know,
so I'm going to go probably Police Story is going to be

(27:27):
my number one Jackie Chan and then Drunken Master
is going to be my number two Jackie Chan.
And then number three is one that is more recent.
It is, what is it called?
The Foreigner.
I never saw that one.
Yeah, you need to see that movie.
So I'm going to go number one, Police Story one and two.

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I know that they're two different movies,
but I consider them one movie.
And then I'm going to go Drunken Master two.
Then I'm going to go Foreigner three.
I'm going to go Rush Hour four, the trilogy,
and then Rumble in the Bronx five.
Okay, okay.
So that's my official Jackie Chan top five.
I'm going to give mine,
but I'm not going to rank them because I don't.

(28:12):
It's hard, man.
I'm going off of memory also.
So these are, I'm picking these purely out of nostalgia
because they were important when I saw them
and they were important as to like how I enjoyed
and like kind of got interested with Hong Kong cinema
and like going down that rabbit hole.
So Jackie Chan's Who Am I?

(28:34):
That one, I rented it on tape constantly as a kid
and was just obsessed with it.
For sure.
I thought it was so cool.
And then I'm going to go with Jackie Chan's First Strike.
Like insane stunts and it's so many cool fight scenes.

(28:55):
If you haven't seen that movie, you got to check it out.
Like the latter scene, just crazy, crazy fight scenes.
Number three is again,
I don't know if the movie's actually that good.
I haven't watched it in a very, very long time,
but Operation Condor.

(29:17):
So that one again, I'm picking these based on
like nostalgia and importance in real life.
That was the first time I saw like a foreign film
in a movie theater.
So there was this little two screen like old theater
that showed all of the like art house or foreign films
and where I grew up.

(29:37):
And it was like super old school.
I feel like there was like red curtains
on either side of the screen and like gold walls,
like classic old movie, like palace kind of deal.
And I remember my dad taking me to see Operation Condor
and I was just like, whoa, this is wild.
But that movie was called Armor of God 2.
And the first Armor of God never actually got a US release

(30:00):
in its like original format,
but it was them trying to do like Jackie Chan
as Indiana Jones, like adventure and stuff.
So yeah, like that one again, I'm sure now if I watch it,
I would like, you know, break it down like,
this isn't really a good movie,
but it was so important to like,

(30:20):
it was so cool seeing like a Hong Kong Jackie Chan.
This is your biological top five,
your autobiographical top five.
Yeah, number four is gonna be Mr. Nice Guy.
Like with Rumble in the Bronx,
the last scene, like the big fight
with the hovercraft and everything,

(30:41):
Mr. Nice Guy with those giant trucks
with the giant wheels, tires,
that stuff was just wild to me.
So Mr. Nice Guy.
Oh, I'm trying to think.
While you're thinking we'd be remiss to mention,
we'd be remiss if we didn't mention,

(31:01):
Mr. Chan also made an appearance in both Cannonball runs.
Yeah, I saw that.
I saw it.
I mean, police story is untouchable.
It's gotta be on the list just because it is a classic.
And there's a thing in town called Cowtown Movie Classics,

(31:21):
they're on Instagram,
but they used to show movies at the old ISIS
and before the ISIS shut down, which was a huge bummer,
I think they're over at Horace Hall now,
but if you're in Fort Worth, Cowtown Movie Classics,
I found out about that because they did
a Jackie Chan month at the ISIS.
And so I got to see police story on the big screen,

(31:42):
you got to see Drunken Master on the big screen,
and they just like, each week they'd have one
and you could come in, watch it, and it was super cool.
That's what's up.
Yeah.
Underappreciated artist in my opinion, Mr. Jackie Chan.
I think that a couple of years ago,
they did a tribute to him at the Oscars
and there was just a super cut of all of his stunts

(32:04):
and just everything that he brought to the table
whenever it comes to how much he gave to,
both Hong Kong and Hollywood, his body,
not just his body of work, but actually his body
that he gave to cinema.
And so shout out to Jackie Chan,
thank you for all that you've done in cinema.
Just like Keanu Reeves, I think that probably

(32:25):
one of the people that we assume or we think of
as like a silly actor, maybe like a Justin Action actor
or a Meathead type of actor, but that dude,
his life story is very amazing.
He's worked his way up definitely
from the bottom to the top.
And so if you've never seen any Jackie Chan movie,
just do yourself a favor, pop one on, enjoy it,

(32:45):
love life, be silly.
So yeah.
I think that's something that was cool that he did
is at the end of all of his movies,
you saw like stunts getting messed up,
them laughing it off, but he also showed like
people getting seriously hurt and showing like,
hey, we are really doing this stuff.
Don't do this at home, you could get hurt.
Look, we're professionals and we're still getting hurt.

(33:08):
But also like showing the fun side of it too.
And like that balance.
And I think that's kind of what he brought
to all of his movies, like really cool action,
good comedy and finding that balance.
So that's kind of like what he's good at
and everything he does.
Yeah.
So thank you, Mr. Chan.
I think we're good on that.
We have been munching on a very, so last week,

(33:31):
we talked about the history of the Acai Bowl.
We talked about how we were both super duper broke
and we didn't have any breakfast last week.
And so this week I decided to right some wrongs
after I got paid.
I went ahead and got us some Mamaca Bowls this morning.
Two different ones.
We're enjoying Acai Bowls from a local place called Mamaca.

(33:53):
I'm not sure if they're a chain or not,
but they are very elegant in their establishment.
They're over off of university across the street
from the like Apple store and like the anthropology
and the Nike wellness collective over there off university.

(34:15):
They're in the same shopping center as like Tyler's and.
Oh, yeah.
Like it's like a newer shopping center.
I never go to that side.
Nor do I.
I always, always, always get my Mamaca Door Dash.
I don't mess with the window or the swings
or the cutesy Instagram stuff.
Yeah, I've only, me and Kevin have actually eaten

(34:38):
in a place, it's not there anymore,
but over in that shopping strip.
Nice.
No breakfast.
Martinez?
No, it was a taco bar.
No, I meant Kevin Martinez.
No, Kevin.
Oh, Kevin.
Kevin Arthur co-host.
How could you forget about Kevin Arthur co-host
whose photo is right here.
Mr. O'Malley.
Yeah, so Mamaca Bowls.

(34:59):
This morning I ordered us two different bowls.
The first one I got is their traditional Mamaca Bowl.
It is an acai based bowl.
Here, I'll read you a little bit about it.
I'll learn you a little bit about it.
I've also ordered from Mamaca at least 50 times.

(35:20):
This is really good.
I'm gonna be ordering from them.
Okay, Mamaca, the original Mamaca Bowl,
the blend in the bottom of the bowl is gonna be,
of course, the acai base.
But you're gonna have strawberries, mangoes,
blueberries, banana, and a little bit of almond milk.
That's kinda giving it its liquidity.

(35:41):
Then they top it with their house made granola,
sliced strawberry, sliced banana, and sliced blueberry.
Now, I always, always, always on this one
because it doesn't come with it.
I order honey on top.
I just personally think that it kinda like makes
everything sticky and a little bit better.
Like the granola and the fruit,
it kinda gets a little sticky and like mixes well.

(36:03):
The other bowl that I ordered this morning,
woes.
Let's see, which one did I get?
Let me look at my receipt.
The pipeline?
The pipeline.
Yes, that could be it.
The pipeline, so let me look at that one here.
Pipeline.
I also like that they sign it with what's on it.

(36:24):
Like they write on the bowl what you've got.
And they also put their initials.
That's pretty awesome.
Like, if I go in there, I know who made it.
I can like, hey, that was awesome, thanks.
Thanks, Caitlin.
So pipeline, the one that I got this morning,
the base is gonna be the acai.
They're gonna throw a scoop of peanut butter,

(36:46):
some strawberry, banana, and chocolate almond milk
instead of the regular almond milk.
And then they're gonna top it with the house-made granola,
strawberry, banana, and cacao nibs.
Now, mine did not come with cacao nibs today
and I was a little bit disappointed with that,
but they must be out.
But yeah, Mamaka, they come in two sizes.
This is the small, by the way.

(37:07):
Wow, that was.
They have another one that's a little bit bigger than that.
I wouldn't be able to do that.
That's the regular.
How long we've been recording?
We've been going?
30 minutes at least.
37.
Almost 40 minutes, yeah.
And I've been slowly snacking on this and I'm full.
Yeah.
Like, that's the small.
That is absolutely insane.
Yeah, so that's like under 10 bucks.

(37:27):
And so yeah, I've been, since we've been discussing
acai bowls and how they've come to the States
and how like Brazilian jiu-jitsu is to thank for that,
I went on my little trip to the hill country
and tried a couple of Mamaka bowls, or I'm sorry,
a couple of acai bowls down there and had a good time
since you had a couple of pictures.

(37:49):
But yeah, so I've been kind of into that.
I think it's a really cool way,
especially during the summer,
to kind of get your breakfast in.
You don't wanna stand over like sizzling bacon
whenever it's 100 degrees outside,
whenever it's nine o'clock, 10 o'clock in the morning
in Texas.
So yeah, if you wanna try something a little bit different,
you are more than welcome to try an acai bowl

(38:11):
because it's nice and cool and refreshing.
Very refreshing.
Fruitful and yeah.
So what do you think?
What are your initial thoughts on this acai bowl?
It's super refreshing.
Hit the spot at this early hour.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to get another one.

(38:31):
That is fantastic.
Num num.
So zero to six bowls.
Zero to six acais.
Solid five and a half.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, this is fantastic.
Thank you so much. 5.5.
Yeah, no problem.
If you're in town, try Mamaka.
If you're not in town, just Google acai bowl near me

(38:52):
and see what you can find.
There are some chains I know
that definitely have acai bowl on the menu.
If you've got a Bahama Bucks near you,
not only do they do rad and funky snow cones,
but you can get an acai bowl from Bahama Bucks.
And they're really good.
We have one by our house and from time to time
when the hankering hits and we can't get to Mamaka,
we'll just go over to Bahama Bucks and get an acai bowl.

(39:12):
You wanna know who else has acai bowls?
Tell me, tell me.
The great American cookie.
No way.
Yeah.
So I was telling you earlier about how Aiden was talking
to me about acai bowls.
Well, we were walking around Sunday at Square
the other night and over across from Bass Hall
across Sunday at Square,

(39:33):
there is a standalone great American cookie,
not in a mall, like just in a shop,
like next to Funky Town Donuts.
Brick and mortar.
For real, like I've never seen one outside of a mall.
So it kind of threw me, but then Heather's like,
oh, they have acai bowls there.
We're just talking about those.
And I was like, no, they don't.
And huge sign in the window,

(39:53):
great American cookie, get acai bowls here.
I was like, holy shit.
Like, I guess if you're not in a mall,
you have to like diversify in order to survive
as a standalone brick and mortar great American cookie.
It's like Schalowsky's being like,
okay, we gotta get Cinnabon in here.
All right, the greatest merch of all time.

(40:15):
We got sandwiches and we got Cinnabons.
That's all you need.
Put them together and you got a Cinnabon turkey muffuletta.
You got it, brother.
So yeah, Mamaka, thank you very much for providing us
with breakfast this morning.
It was delicious.
We enjoyed it very much.
You got 5.5 out of us out of six.

(40:37):
We're going to follow you on the Instagram,
so that way we can keep our list of who we're supporting.
Also, if you're on Instagram and you want to kind of support
some of these places that you've seen us eat at
or kind of want to check it out,
we've been trying to kind of keep up
with who we talk about on Instagram.
So that way, you know, it's an easy way.
So if you already follow us on Instagram,

(40:57):
just go to our following list and see who we're following.
You're going to follow Cinnabon Crunch.
You're going to follow Peak MMA.
You're going to be following Fort Worth Float Company.
A lot of great local companies as well as like
the silly companies that we love to promote
and follow as well.
So.
Yeah, absolutely.
Mamaka, thank you.
We're always trying to tag anything we talk about

(41:18):
on the podcast or anyone we talk about,
we try and tag them.
True story, true story, true story.
Spread the love, spread the love.
It's all about synergy, synergizing.
Exactly.
This week, I wanted to bring up something
that maybe you haven't heard about before.
And so.
I had not heard about this before you sent it to me.
Yeah, so we're all about the violence here.

(41:40):
And we talk a lot about the UFC in particular
and mixed martial arts and maybe even a little bit boxing.
But I wanted to talk about in particular
a one style of fighting.
However, before we go there,
did you watch the Riyadh season,
Everything or Nothing, Bud Crawford promo

(42:00):
that I sent you?
The boxing promo?
Yes.
Oh my God.
Like a punch in the gut watching that thing.
Dude.
I have seen it at least five or six times.
Turkey El-Sheik, you have outdone yourself
with the production value of this promotional fight
for tonight's fight between Terrence Bud Crawford

(42:20):
and Armadale, I believe is how you say his name.
Not exactly sure how you say it.
Let me double check the pronunciation there.
Israel Madrimov, that's how you say his name.
So Terrence Bud Crawford is fighting Israeli
or Israel Madrimov tonight.
And if you've never heard of
or know about Terrence Bud Crawford,

(42:43):
in my opinion, he is currently probably the best boxer
boxing right now.
He's kind of got a really hard story
whenever it comes to like his background
In particular, if you're from the United States of America,
it's a very hard story to hear.
He's got a mother who kind of withheld a lot of affection

(43:06):
and love from him when he was younger,
even hired other boys from the neighborhood to come
and try to beat up her son.
Never really allowed him to like really celebrate
anything in his life and basically would not hug him
or tell him that she loved him until he became a millionaire.

(43:27):
And so that sounds hard, you know,
mentally and especially for someone
that's in the United States of America.
But there's another side of like growing up hard.
And that's what you saw in the production value
as far as like Israel Madrimov's concerned.
He's from Uzbekistan.
He had to leave a war torn country.

(43:49):
And so if you don't know these fighters,
don't know their stories,
this boxing promo really summarized that quite well
in about two and a half, three minutes.
It's a black and white shot of these two competitors
that are kind of tied up in a clinch.
They go back to their corners.
And as they sit down, all of these flashbacks

(44:09):
to where they came from kind of go through their minds
as they're getting ready to go into this last round
of the commercial.
And so you have images of Bud's mom hiring those boys
to come beat up her son,
images of Bud's dad leaving when he was a young person.
You have images of Israel growing up in Uzbekistan

(44:31):
with no water, having to sleep on floors
with lots of people, having to take trains, planes,
and anything that he could do to get to a good place
to train boxing.
And so the humanity of that, of everything, of all that,
just really is like, I mean, the second I saw Goose Pimples,

(44:52):
my hair was standing on edge.
It was just crazy.
Yeah, it hits you right in the gut and puts a lot of things
in perspective that you don't always think about
when you're watching these fighters.
Exactly.
Humans, where they came from,
everything that they've put into it.
Some of these fighters,
we talk about Francis Ngannou who, I mean, that dude,

(45:15):
I don't know if you know, he was trying to get into Europe
and he escaped Africa and he had to swim the channel
and got sent back two times.
And yeah, I mean, some of these fighters have just,
before they even stepped foot in the ring,
before they even trained, they've lived a thousand lives.
Yeah.
And so they really did a great job with that.

(45:37):
And so that fight is tonight.
Looking forward to that.
I just wanted to touch base on that before we move on
because the fight's gonna happen tonight
and maybe that promo will just get swept under the rug.
But I think I'll go back to that time and time again,
as far as one of my favorite fight promotion hype videos.
Not a lot of talking, not a lot of music,

(45:59):
just a lot of good scenes and kind of show you
where they came from.
Powerful imagery.
Yeah.
That's Riyadh season for you, baby.
They got the money.
So the fighting style slash martial art
that I kind of wanted to talk about this week
is something called Lethway.
Lethway is Burmese boxing.

(46:21):
Mm-hmm.
And so the reason that I kind of wanted to talk about it
is because it's very similar to Muay Thai
in the fact that you've got elbows,
you've got punching, kicking, all that good stuff.
But I think the thing that kind of separates Lethway
from any other martial art is it is one of the only

(46:43):
martial arts that they allow and encourage headbutts.
And so Lethway fighters, they are also competing bare knuckle.
So they're wrapping their hands in only tape and gauze.
They also said back in the day,
they used to allow electrical tape,
I guess because of just not necessarily having

(47:04):
all of the proper equipment or whatever.
But in most combat sports,
you're not allowed to headbutt your opponent.
In Lethway, they encourage it.
It's one of, they call it the art of nine limbs.
It's nine limbs, so the ninth limb being your head.
Oh my God.
Let me use my ninth leg to open my pineal gland

(47:27):
by headbutting you so hard,
I'd headbutt you into another dimension.
Yeah, so if you've never watched Lethway before,
it's pronounced, or I'm sorry, it's spelled L-E-T-H-W-E-I.
So if you pop that into the YouTube or the Google,
it'll give you some cool videos, explanations of that.
So the cool thing about it is it originated in Myanmar,

(47:51):
so it's one of those things where it is very much
a regional martial arts that I think that,
much in the way that we talked about Muay Thai
being very Thailand-centric.
You go to Thailand to train Muay Thai.
If you wanna get the best of the best jiu-jitsu,
you're gonna go to Brazil to train with Brazil.

(48:14):
And if you wanna get the best of the best grappling
and wrestling, you probably will go to, I don't know,
Dagestan to wrestle with those guys.
This is one of those things where Myanmar,
they had this style of fighting beforehand,
but what happened was they had this guy,
his name was Kiar Bin Nyan,

(48:34):
and he was a boxer from Myanmar,
and he went to the 1952 Summer Olympics.
So we're actually in Olympic season right now,
so this is kind of a cool tie-in.
He went to the Summer Olympics,
and he saw how modern rules and regulations
really helped the sport of boxing,
and how they were able to bring,
quote unquote, barbaric events to the masses

(48:57):
without it being such a spectacle of violence.
And so after he got back from the Olympics,
he traveled around Myanmar,
and he trained with a lot of the left-wing fighters,
and he actually helped set up the new rules.
And so beforehand, it was very like no rules,

(49:18):
kind of like the Brazilian Vali Tudo,
no rules kind of a situation.
They actually play some rules,
got a federation, got a sanction as an actual sport.
They have weight classes,
they have something called a golden belt,
and so if you win the golden belt,
you are the world left-of-the-way champion.

(49:41):
So it really took off in the 90s and 2000s,
similar when that whole thing with the era
of Girls Gone Wild, UFC, Order the Tapes Now, Order it Now.
Oh, 2 a.m., Comedy Central just went off.
You just got done watching The Man Show.
Girls on Trampoline, South Park at 2 a.m., all that.

(50:05):
Aeon Flux is about to come on.
And then you got this Order it Now.
Yeah, so it's one of those things
where you kind of had to look for it.
It wasn't very popular.
It was one of the sub-genres of that whole Gone By era.
But I think what's cool now is it's being more modernized
because One Championship, a current fighting promotion,

(50:29):
has gotten hold of it,
and they're still putting on left-of-the-way fights
So there is, a lot of countries have banned left-of-the-way
for being too violent.
But the United States is not one of them.
Yeah.
You can fight a left-of-the-way fight in Wyoming.
It's the only state in the United States that is sanctioned.

(50:50):
I mean, I can't think of a more perfect place
for a left-of-the-way fight outside of Myanmar.
I'd wanna go to Wyoming just to watch a left-of-the-way fight.
I've been to Wyoming.
I have too.
My grandparents lived in Wyoming for a while.
I just drove through it a couple of times, but yeah.
They lived in Cheyenne.
Wyoming is a place,
did you know that there's only one escalator

(51:11):
in the entire state of Wyoming?
I did not know that.
Yeah, fun fact.
Is that just one of those things
where men just say it really definitively,
or you actually know that?
No, no, no, I mean,
maybe it's changed since I read the article, but that's-
My wife is tripping out over the fact
that I've been telling her for 13 years.
I'm just like, you just say it really definitively,
and everybody believes you.
I mean, this is one of those random little nuggets

(51:36):
of knowledge that I have lodged in my brain
that's completely useless and less-
Useless info.
Once a year, somebody brings up Wyoming,
oh yeah, did you know?
There's one mall in the entire state that has an escalator,
and that's the only escalator in the entire state.
I love that.
Yeah.
So you may have heard about left-of-the-way,

(51:56):
you people out there.
If you ever watched a Netflix documentary called Fight World,
Frank Grillo would travel around to different places
and train with different styles
of mixed martial arts fighters.
He actually went to Myanmar and trained
with left-of-the-way fighters,
and so that is an episode on Netflix.
What's up?

(52:17):
As of 2023, Wyoming has two escalators in the entire state.
See, men saying things definitively.
But that's less than a year ago
is when the second escalator came to Wyoming.
If we had recorded this a year ago, I would have been right.
Okay, well, we didn't, so you're not.
But I also read that article like three years ago, so.

(52:39):
Hello.
Things move quickly.
Fact-checking in real time.
It's part of our thing here
that we do for breakfast of champions.
So also, if you're a fan of the Japanese manga series
King in Ashura, there is a Burmese left-of-the-way master
named Sa Pying, who is so indestructible
that his opponent shatters every bone in their hand

(53:00):
when they try to punch him.
Damn.
So left-of-the-way is a very cool thing.
It's not really well-known.
I kinda wanted to shed some light on it.
Just wanted to get all you breakfast of champions
out there on the left-of-the-way train,
just in case it becomes super-duper popular.
We're actually gonna do a breakfast of champions
sponsored left-of-the-way fight in Wyoming.
In Wyoming.

(53:20):
On both of the escalators.
We're gonna have two fights, one on each escalator.
Another thing that I was telling Parker
that I thought is really kind of interesting
about left-of-the-way is that some of the traditions
they have whenever it comes to starting,
beginning the fight, I think are very cool.
Because in karate, usually you bow.

(53:43):
There are some other martial arts
where you're very respectful to not only your opponent,
but also the crowd or the judges or whomever, coaches.
The tradition in general.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Just being kind to the art in general.
Thanking those that came before you that paved the way.
So left-of-the-way still does this thing

(54:04):
where they call it, it's called the latke maun.
It's a traditional gesture performed by left-of-the-way fighters
to challenge their opponents with courage and respect.
The latke maun is done by clapping three times
with the right palm to the triangle-shaped hole
formed when bending the left arm.
The clapping hand must be in the form of a cup,
while the left hand must be placed under the right armpit.

(54:25):
So you're kind of doing like a triangle here.
And then you're,
one, two, three.
So the latke maun is done at the beginning of the left-of-the-way,
yay, and can be done while fighting.
So you've seen that, I showed you a little bit of that.
Yeah, you showed me some videos
and I saw them doing it during the fight.
So this is called,
this is done because it's an invitation to fight
and it's inspired by birds of prey, like eagles.

(54:48):
They flap their wings while flying and hunting.
So this is kind of like a traditional thing
that they do before their left-of-the-way fights.
They also kind of do a little,
they call it the left-of-the-way yay,
is a little fight dance that they do.
It's performed before the fight
as a way to showcase the fighter's skill
and kind of as a victory dance after the fight.
It's sometimes the latke maun is confused with the left-of-the-way yay.

(55:11):
The latke maun is done with the left-of-the-way yay
at the beginning of the fight.
So you've got the whole cupping thing.
And then the pre-fight dance was more commonly referred to
as the hanyabin colonial times,
but it's performed in accordance
with a tempo of traditional orchestra.
So music is involved in this back in the day.
It also incorporated a much more elaborate dance

(55:32):
and show of skills.
So it was kind of like a,
I'm gonna challenge you to fight
and then I'm gonna show you what I got
before I show you what I got.
But now it's more toned down.
It's more like a, this is how big I am in stature.
Thank you for coming.
They do it to each side of the ring.
So everybody kind of gets a little bow.
And as they do it to your side of the ring,

(55:54):
usually that side of the ring stands up
and acknowledges or cheers or kind of salutes.
That's cool.
I like, I think that personally is super freaking cool.
I really like that too.
It's one of those things where like,
have you, you go to concerts and I think it's corny,
but if you buy into it, it's one of those things where like,
third-eye blind just did it, where you're like,
hey, say hi to somebody you don't know.

(56:14):
And like, they want you to buy into like the communal aspect
of what's going on.
And I think that's a similar thing here is that like,
sometimes when you're in fights,
especially when it comes to the United States,
people are on their phones.
People are like not paying attention.
Hell, this past weekend at UFC Manchester,
it happened at five o'clock in the morning.
So people were asleep.
I mean, I've seen so many pictures of people

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just straight up slumped at the UFC card this past weekend.
So this is kind of like one of those community like,
hey, I'm here, you're here, let's get it on.
I have situations.
So, Lethway is very cool.
Like I said, you're allowed headbutts.
Any punches are allowed.
All elbow strikes are allowed.
All knee strikes are allowed.
All kicks are allowed.

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Clenching is allowed.
Sweeps are allowed.
Throws are allowed.
Take downs are allowed.
Basically, pretty much anything is allowed.
Another cool thing about Lethway is that they allow you
to call one timeout during the fight.
And this timeout is usually reserved for

(57:16):
if you are like knocked out or you're kind of dazed,
they can call this timeout and they've got up to two minutes
to revive you and bring you back to fighting shape
in any form or fashion.
So if you can think about it,
it's one of those things where we watch UFC
and we see these brutal knockouts or knockdowns

(57:38):
or whatever, and you know, it kind of takes away
that whole like early stoppage thing
because your corner can kind of like assess you
and kind of bring you back.
And so I was telling Parker before we started,
some of the ways that they bring these people back
are just they're biting people's ears.
Little nibble.
Little nibble on the ear.
You know, they're slapping people.
They're throwing, I mean, obviously ice water

(57:58):
in people's backs and faces.
I mean, just basically anything they can do
to awaken their opponent and get them back
to fighting shape so they can get to fighting again.
It's crazy to think like getting knocked out
and then having somebody nibbling on your ear
and throwing cold water on you and pushing you back out.
You lose conscience and then you come to
and your coach is ripping on your ear a little bit.

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Mike Tyson, is that you?
Maybe that's where he got it from.
Maybe he was Dane's.
Maybe he was training at Myanmar.
Maybe he hit. Or Wyoming.
He hit Evander Holyfield so hard that he was like,
I need to nibble you to wake you back up a little bit
and get you back into the fight.
But no, like that is insane to think about.
Oh yeah, you got knocked the fuck out.
Now we're gonna wake you up in the weirdest way possible

(58:42):
or we're gonna send you back out there.
No, it also makes sense why you can do this in Wyoming.
So there's a lot of very fancy moves
whenever it comes to this.
There's a lot of spinning elbows, spinning kicks.

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There's a combination kick elbow thing,
like knee elbow things where you're like knee
and elbowing at the same time.
There's like elbows and head butts at the same time.
And then we watched, I was kind of showing you
a little bit about Dave LeDuc who is kind of like,
I would say maybe more internationally known for Lethway.

(59:22):
He is obviously not from Myanmar slash Burma.
He's a French Canadian.
Yeah.
But he kind of brought Lethway to like the masses
when it comes to like everyday person
would know about Lethway in my opinion,
kind of comes from Dave LeDuc.
So I wanted to talk a little bit about him

(59:44):
before we move on if that's cool.
Absolutely.
So yeah, like you said, he is a French Canadian.
He is a former six time Lethway world champion
and he held the golden belt.
So the belt in Myanmar that like everybody wants
that trains for Lethway, he actually won that belt
and he's been a world champion six times.

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So you do not have to be from Myanmar slash Burma
to be involved in Lethway or to challenge for the belt
or anything like that.
So his life, he was born in Gatineau, which is in Quebec
and he played baseball.

(01:00:26):
He is just like an all around really good athlete.
He was like almost like a professional pitcher.
And then, so I thought this was cool.
Whenever he was 17 years old, he got into a fight
with his father and he actually left home.
And so he joined this Kung Fu school

(01:00:47):
and he actually has a Sifu.
So like we talked about blood sport.
Patrick Marcel was his Sifu and he began learning
this art called Sanda, which is kind of like
a Kung Fu type art.
And so he started fighting amateur fights
and then started doing some Jeet Kune Do,

(01:01:09):
started integrating some headbutts.
And so he basically kind of like got mad at his dad,
left home, went and found a Sensei
and basically dedicated his entire life
to training martial arts.
Sounds like something out of a movie.
A movie, yeah, it's exactly the same thing.
A little bit of that.
So he was doing a lot of MMA whenever he was in Canada.

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Did some amateur fighting, won a few of them.
He actually won his last amateur MMA fight
against Yukinori Akazawa, who is George St. Pierre's protege.
So like really, you know, really, really up there fighter.
He made his professional MMA debut

(01:01:50):
against a UFC welterweight fighter named Jonathan Manure.
He's never cut weight, really.
He fights around his walking weight, which is 171,
which is what I was telling you.
He does drop down to 155 occasionally to fight,
but he doesn't like to.
So. Yeah, I mean, you're saying he's 64.
Let me double check that.

(01:02:10):
He is 62, I'm sorry, not 62.
Even 62 being 150, 155.
Yeah. That is brutal.
I mean, I'm in that range
and I've dropped down to like 190,
like one time in my adult life.
And I looked emaciated.

(01:02:31):
Yeah. I mean, it wasn't my choice,
but yeah, no, being that height and being 150 pounds,
like that is crazy to think about.
Yeah. So since Lethway was illegal in Quebec,
he was having trouble obviously fighting fights.
So you're saying he bought a house in Wyoming.

(01:02:52):
No, sir.
He also couldn't get a fight in Myanmar
because no one really knew him.
He went to Thailand and just decided
he was gonna fight Muay Thai
and kind of get close to Myanmar as close as he could.
And so he decided to go down to,
he moved to Phuket and started training at Tiger Muay Thai.

(01:03:14):
And so we talked to Seth who's been to Thailand
and maybe even has been to Tiger Muay Thai
and maybe passed by or so.
But yeah, so another kind of tie into our podcast
is that the gentleman, Mr. Leduc, or not Leduc, Mr. Yeah.
Is it Leduc?
Leduc.
Leduc.
So yeah, another cool thing that Dave Leduc did

(01:03:36):
that I thought was really cool
that we talked about cursor early
before we started the podcast is that in 2014,
Leduc took part in this thing called Prison Fight,
Fight for Freedom in Thailand.
And basically what happened
is the Thai Department of Corrections,
they wanted to get a way for inmates to battle

(01:03:58):
or fight for an early release.
And so what they do is they pick fighters
that have exemplary behavior and that are committing
to changing their lives and training
in some sort of martial arts.
And then they allow them to fight
against professional fighters.
And if they win, they can reduce their sentence

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or even gain their freedom.
And so Dave Leduc went down and fought a Muay Thai fighter.
This Muay Thai fighter was arrested,
incarcerated for trafficking meth.
And so he went down to fight him.
Leduc won by unanimous decision

(01:04:40):
and left the top of his opponent's head lacerated
because of repetitive elbow strikes.
That dude got his ass kicked and.
And still has to serve time.
Damn.
Yeah, so I did take a look at Prison Fight.
There's been a couple of people that have actually

(01:05:01):
have gotten their freedom from fighting, from Prison Fight.
Yeah, so in 2017 Showtime did a documentary
called Prison Fighters, Five Rounds to Freedom.
Ron Perlman was the narrator of that film.
And basically they wanted to showcase
what was going on in Thailand about this
and this guy actually, through this documentary,

(01:05:24):
won his Muay Thai fight against the American fighter
and was granted the Thai royal pardon.
So he got out of prison because he won his fight.
So I think that was really cool.
It's a really cool, interesting thing
that I didn't know about.
I didn't know there was prisoners out there
actually fighting for their freedom
when it comes to martial arts.
There's actually a movie
that's based on a true story about this.

(01:05:45):
Very cool.
It's called A Prayer Before Dawn.
It's about an English boxer who gets incarcerated in Thailand
and has to fight his way out.
I also believe it's an 824 film from 2017 or 2018.
Of course it is.
I actually own it.
It's a really good movie.
I think it might be on Hulu.
It's probably on streaming digital.

(01:06:05):
I'll have to look it up.
Yeah, so David LeDuc actually doesn't fight Lethwei anymore.
But he is, like I said,
he's kind of like how I got introduced into Lethwei.
Just kind of like the story of somebody
that isn't from Myanmar going to Myanmar,
dominating that sport.

(01:06:27):
Also, he's vegan.
So it was one of those things wherever,
whenever I was vegan or very interested in vegan things,
I was like, he was one of my champions
because obviously he looks the way that he looks
and he fights the way that he fights,
but he's also vegan.
So if you're vegan and you're looking for like
someone to put on your wall has to be like goals,

(01:06:51):
maybe check out David LeDuc.
He was just smiling smugly over there.
Yeah.
I don't know, I mean, some people are still into it.
I don't know.
No, no, like he's probably like has a badass diet.
He's not just like down in Impossible Burgers
and beyond.
No, he is.
Like he's just having acai bowls and some rice

(01:07:14):
and some tofu.
Like that shit's cool as hell.
Yeah.
So cool.
If you've never checked out Leftway before, check it out.
Again, it's spelled L-E-T-H-W-E-I.
I don't know if I'm saying it right.
Dave LeDuc is the guy that we were talking about.
So just a quick little history lesson on that.
We, you know, we're always talking about regular old

(01:07:36):
scrapping and wrestling and all that good stuff.
It's fun to go and see somebody else's, you know,
traditional, I think the dancing is cool.
I think the timeout is cool.
I think, you know, the fact that like, you know,
it's like it's still like being done in Myanmar is cool.
So very cool stuff.

(01:07:57):
Tonight, actually not tonight, in about 45 minutes,
the UFC is going to have an event.
It's a fight night.
So it is free to watch.
We're going to cursorarily talk about this event
and then go to next week's event.
Just because I feel like this event is, like I said,
it's happening in 45 minutes.
So when this gets dropped on Thursday, it'll have,

(01:08:20):
it'll be old news.
Well, everybody will know.
But I did want to say we did really well on our predictions
from last week.
We got to start a Patreon for people to pool money.
Yeah, we talked about this.
So yeah, if you live in a state that allows sports betting
and you want to start, you want to start the broke boys

(01:08:41):
breakfast of champions betting pool.
Broke boys, broke boys, breakfast of champions,
betting pool, that's a lot of Bs.
Anyways.
But you weren't fat.
Yeah, so if you want to, if you want to start that,
hit us up, we'll start a Discord
and we'll get Venmo Cash App to you.
And then we'll just like get our picks rolling

(01:09:02):
and be millionaires by the end of this thing.
By the time season three wraps up,
we'll start a new one.
Also that just makes me think of that video I sent you
of the guy, the sports betting guy,
trying to get it legalized in Texas.
He was in Irving, all of his reasoning.
It's, oh man.
Yeah.
So legalized in Texas.
This, today's fight is happening in Abu Dhabi.

(01:09:22):
Hence it being at 11 o'clock in the morning over here
because it's already, you know,
it's I think six or eight hours ahead of us.
All right, let's take a look at the card.
So the card is headlined by Mr. Corey Sanhagen,
who is number two in his bantamweight division.
He is fighting Mr. Umar Nurmagomedov.
Now, whenever it comes to Umar Nurmagomedov,

(01:09:44):
you hear the name, you automatically know Russian,
Dagestani, Habib, Islam, that's his crew.
So Mr. Sanhagen obviously is a more traditional
martial artist.
So he's gonna be defending a lot of the wrestle heavy
attack of Umar.
A lot of media this week talking about how Umar's striking
is above the level of Islam and Habib.

(01:10:08):
So he could be the heir to the Dagestani throne
whenever it comes to being pound for pound.
So looking forward to this fight, very cool fight.
Mr. Sanhagen is a veteran of the game.
He is definitely not scared of Umar.
He's fought the best of the best.
He is still on top of his game whenever it comes to it.
So sparks should fly.
If you have ABC, I know this is gonna drop after the fact,

(01:10:31):
but this is a free fight.
So if you have ABC or a regular antenna,
anything like that, you can watch this fight for free.
You don't have to have ESPN.
You don't have to buy a pay-per-view.
This is just regular old plain TV.
So I think that's cool that they do that sometimes.
The, I guess the co, not to go, what did they call it?
I don't know.
The fight before the main event.

(01:10:53):
We have Shura Megomedov versus Michael Olajishoke.
Now this is the share a bullet guy.
He only has one eye.
Yeah, no, I can see that.
So Shura Bull is a very scary, scary fighter.
He is, he always wears like the keffiyeh
and he's like got the one eye
and he's just like very, very scary.
So.

(01:11:13):
Yeah, no, just this picture of him is terrifying.
Yeah.
I mean, why would you, I would never bet against Shura.
So I'm gonna go with Shura on that fight.
I'm sorry.
Did you have a pick for this top fight over here?
Corey Sandhagen versus Umar Neregemedov?
I wanna see Umar go for it.
Let's do it.
Umar number 10 is gonna take on number two
and we're gonna pick Umar.

(01:11:35):
I'm gonna automatically pick for us.
Share a bullet's gonna win this fight.
There's no way that he's not gonna win this fight.
So the third one down.
Now this is very crazy to me
because both of these fighters at one time
were headlining fighters.
Like, so we've got Marlon Chito Vera
and he's fighting Davidson Figueredo.
Davidson Figueredo held the belt for a really long time.

(01:11:57):
He was one of the guys that like Sean O'Malley
was fighting for a long time and that whole thing.
So this is actually cool
that they're not like headlining this fight.
This is like, you know, three fights down.
So we've got Marlon Chito Vera versus Davidson Figueredo.
This is gonna be an exciting, explosive strike heavy fight.
I'm excited for this.

(01:12:17):
I personally think that Marlon is on the upswing
even though he just got that huge knockout by Sean O'Malley.
I think Sean O'Malley is just on a different level.
He's just kind of riding that wave right now.
However, it would be cool to see Davidson Figueredo
put up a fight.
I'm gonna go Chito Vera.
I'm gonna go with your pick.
Yeah.
Now this one's the sad one.

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We've got Tony Ferguson who is on a seven fight
losing streak.
Ouch.
Fighting Mr. Michael Chiesa.
Tony Ferguson is one of those guys who's like a fan favorite,
a legend of the game, has probably fought like 35 fights
in the UFC.
People love to watch him fight El Kukui.
The last fight that he fought, he trained with David Goggins,

(01:13:04):
the running guy or whatever.
He's done some really interesting things.
He went two years with not sparring.
He's back to sparring for this fight
and sparred 120 rounds in preparation.
So you have Dana White actively calling for his retirement
after the last three fights.
But yet we're still giving him people.

(01:13:25):
And they're just not any people.
He's getting killers.
He's like, it's like almost as if the UFC is like,
we want you to go and if you're not,
we're gonna put you out so that you can't come back.
But he just keeps coming back.
So obviously I'm gonna go with Michael Chiesa in this.
How do you go for a guy that hasn't won a fight
in seven fights?

(01:13:48):
You know what?
I'm gonna go with Tony Ferguson.
Oh, look at you.
Let's see what happens.
Let's fucking go.
Let's get him another contract.
All right, so we've got Mackenzie Dern
versus Lope or Lupi Godinez.
Now, I don't know.
Did you see anything for this fight?
No.
So you're not on the side of Instagram that I am.

(01:14:12):
She came in for the weigh-in and she took her pants off
and her little boxer underwear, I guess it was bikini,
was kind of up her little high knee a little bit.
And so she kind of broke the internet
with her butt hanging out.
Everybody was like, oh.
I mean, I saw it so many times on my Instagram feed.
It was just like butt, butt, butt, butt, butt, butt, butt.
So this is kind of a pick and fight to me.

(01:14:33):
You see there are no odds on this fight.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just one of those things where either one,
you could flip a coin there.
So personally, I'm gonna go with Lupi Godinez
because she's Mexicana.
That's why I was gonna go with her.
Si se puede, you know what I mean?
We can do it.
Love Mackenzie Dern.
Great fighter, great personality,

(01:14:54):
but personally, I'd like to see the make on a win.
Now we've got Joel Alvarez versus Elvis Brenner.
I don't know anything about either one of these fighters.
Let's see here.
The only fighter that I know that's fighting
on the prelim card is gonna be Alonzo Menafil.

(01:15:15):
So if you're looking at the prelim card,
obviously there's gonna be some great fights.
Most of the fight night cards are great fights,
but Alonzo Menafil is the only one
that I really have experience with.
So, broke boy betting club.
We've got Umar, Shara Bullitt.
We've got Cheeto.

(01:15:35):
We've got a split decision here on this one.
You can throw your money however you want,
but I pick Michael Chiesa and Parker's got Tony Ferguson.
We've got Lupi Godinez and then I'm gonna go,
let's go Elvis just cause he's got a cool name.
Elvis Brenner.
Since this is dropping on Thursday,
you'll have a few days to actually put your bets in

(01:15:57):
for this fight that we're about to talk about.
We've got another fight night card coming up.
So another free fight.
So this week is free, next week is free.
So if you've got empty pockets and you don't,
we've got it coming up.
So the headlining there is gonna be Martian Tabura,
Martin Tabura, Marcian Tabura versus Sergey Spivak.

(01:16:17):
You've got these two big boys here
and you've got Polish power versus Moldovan power.
Again, this fight could be one of those things
where you pick them.
I personally, I like Sergey Spivak in this fight.
You may not know either of these guys.
I don't know either one of them.

(01:16:39):
So yeah, I'll go with Sergey.
We literally should bring a coin up here.
Sorry. Just flip it.
Yeah.
We've got Chris Gutierrez versus Javed Basrat.
Man, no odds on this one either.
Kind of a pick them.
Let's go by face alone.
Face alone?

(01:17:00):
Face alone, I'm going with Chris Gutierrez.
All right, you heard it here first.
We got our locks picked, picked locked.
Hold on one second.
And we're back.
Sorry about that.
My tummy was, my, I also,
I've decided to name my stomach.
Oh, what's the name of your stomach?
Tomathy.

(01:17:20):
Tomathy, I love it.
So my, my Tomathy hurts, right?
Pardon me.
All right, we went with Chris Gutierrez on face alone.
Yeah.
By the way about Damon Jackson versus Chepay Mariscal.
Now I've always said for the longest time
that this gentleman looks like the lead singer

(01:17:41):
of a band that I played in.
And so if you, if you ever,
if you ever heard the band Titan Moon,
this guy kind of looks like the lead singer of that band.
And so I always think it's funny when he fights.
And I, I think I'm going to go with Chepay in this one.
Yeah, I'm going with Chepay too.
If we're going face alone.
Face alone.

(01:18:02):
Chepay.
That guy looks model-esque almost.
And then we've got Gianna Santos versus Chelsea Chandler.
We've got a Russian versus the United States.
If you're from the eighties, you should automatically
go with the United States.
I mean, face alone, might go with Gianna,
but you know, she's Russian.
So.
Yeah, can't do that.

(01:18:22):
Yeah.
We've got Uros Medic versus Danny Barlow.
I've seen Uros fight.
I've never seen Danny fight,
but again, we've got Serbia versus the United States.
I'm going to go Uros Medic.
Yeah.
Face alone.
Face and name.
Yeah. Dude looks hard as fuck.
Then we've got Alan Nascimento versus Rafael Fio.

(01:18:43):
Both Brazilian guys.
They are lighter guys, flyweight guys.
So you're going to be lots of scrapping,
but they're Brazilian, so they may wind up grappling,
but you know, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast hands.
I'm going to go Alan Nascimento.
That's what I was thinking too.
This guy looks a little thin to me.
Yeah.
Looks a little like smaller, a little more petite.

(01:19:04):
And this guy looks stocky, filled out traps.
Yeah, for being flyweight, he looks thick.
Yeah.
So on this portion here, this one,
and also this one right here, I already took a look at it.
I think they came from another promotion,
hence they're the black and white pictures.
I was like user submitted headshot, amateur fighter.

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So we've got Toshomi Kazama
versus Charlampos Grigorio.
Grigoro, I don't know how to say Cyprus versus Japan.
I'm going to go straight Japan
just because I love, love, love Japan.
Yep.
And he's got a color shot.
No black and white for me.
And there's no nip.
Yeah.

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Next we've got a welterweight bout
between Johnny Parsons and Yasaku Kinoshita.
This looks like it would have been a matchup
in like an 80s action movie.
I was just about to say,
this guy's hair is worth looking it up alone.
Honestly, both of them, like the bleach,
like buzz cut versus the mullet with the goatee combo.
Yeah.

(01:20:08):
But it's also a really clean like comb over mullet.
Yeah.
Like a party mullet.
Very much business in the front,
party in the back. It's very much like a late 80s
Chuck Norris mullet.
Yeah.
It's like, if you went to Great Clips and said,
I want the Billy Ray Cyrus,
but they fucked up the front a little bit.
I'm going to go, Yasuko.

(01:20:29):
I'm going Johnny Parsons.
Right.
Also that name, that's also just like.
Johnny Parsons.
Yeah.
That's a good name right there.
Johnny Parsons.
All right.
Next fight we've got Carol Rosa versus Panny,
Panny, Panny, Panny, Panny Kansad.
So,
Sweden.
Sweden.

(01:20:50):
You're going to go with the Swedish?
The Swedish.
The Swedish.
The Swedish.
Also her name's Panny.
So you know, she got ridiculed.
She's got a lot of hate.
Yeah.
Panny waist.
I mean, that's right there for the, for the taken.
All right.
Heavyweight bout, big boy.
She got Janta Dines versus Carl Williams.

(01:21:11):
Johanta.
I'm going Carl Williams.
Carl.
Carl.
But he's showing nip.
I know that, but he looks like he's like wants.
He's got that sideways spurt like.
It's almost like a pow.
Like I have to poop out.
Okay.
So we're going to go Carl, put our money on Carl.

(01:21:34):
Last two fights we've got Yusef.
This is a law versus Jarno errands.
We've got Morocco versus the Netherlands.
This guy's face looks like almost Conor McGregor ass cut up.
I was seeing that same thing.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with Netherlands on this one.
Yeah.
He looks like he's ready to go.
Let's do it.
Last but not least, we've got Stephanie Luciano

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versus Talita Alan Carr, Brazil, Brazil.
I'm going to go Talita just because we don't do black and white.
Yeah.
Color photo.
So put those in for us.
Whoever is running the discord channel
for the broke boys betting club.
I'm going to shoot you some Venmo money
or some cash app or some Zelle.
We'll get this thing rolling.
If you want to be in charge of the broke boys betting club

(01:22:16):
give us a call at 682-294-0101
or you can email us at breakfastofchampionspod.gmail.com.
Now we've got about 30 minutes left
before I have to open up shop here.
I don't know if you're going to take all of this time
for the current next thing that we have here,
but I am very excited about this.

(01:22:38):
This is something that I kind of thought about
when we first started talking about the podcast,
but I didn't want to be so on the nose
with who we are as people.
So if you don't listen to like heavy music
or like, you know, guitar music or like any, you know,
sort of like metal or any sort of like emotional
or hardcore or anything like that,

(01:22:58):
like you may not have ever heard of this,
but if you're in any of those genres,
you've probably most definitely heard of power violence.
And so today we kind of wanted to talk
because the word violence is in the name.
I never even thought about talking about this
before you brought it up.
Oh shit.
Like this thought had never crossed my mind.

(01:23:20):
Well, I'm glad.
Yeah.
Yeah. So I mean, obviously in my mind, I heard violence
and then we kind of played like punk-ish style of music.
And so I thought eventually we're gonna have to talk
power violence because that is kind of one of the things.
And sometimes when I think about like,
what should we talk about?
It's either breakfast foods or violence, great.

(01:23:40):
But like, there are some offshoots there.
Like clearly we're not gonna always review a donut.
Clearly we're not gonna always talk about the UFC.
We're gonna talk about stuff like, you know,
like Lethway and music and movies and our lives
and that sort of thing too.
So power violence, you want to give us a little bit
of a history on power violence?
Yeah. And I am, you know, not a historian on this.

(01:24:03):
So sure.
I guess more just like a, well, let's talk.
Let's talk.
If anyone disagrees with anything I'm saying, call it in.
Holler at us.
Yeah. Let's argue.
Let me know that I'm wrong.
Yeah. Correct us.
I'm gonna say everything very matter of fact
and very confidently.
Definitively, yeah.
Just like a man would.
Exactly.

(01:24:24):
Yeah. So, I mean, really, I guess if you don't know
what power violence is, in my mind,
when I think of power violence, I'm thinking of bands
that are like fast, slow, fast, slow.
Like that's the kind of combo grunted kind of vocals.
The songs are usually 30 seconds to a minute or less

(01:24:45):
and like really crazy blown out distorted bass tones.
And when I say fast, slow, I mean like painfully,
glacially slow to breakneck speeds like grind core
but not grind core.
Right.
So that's kind of what I think of
when I think of power violence.
When I think of the sound and like the aesthetic of it,
aesthetic, it's very like black and white imagery,

(01:25:09):
high contrast, high brightness, stuff like that.
So I would, I think probably the early bands
that kind of influence power violence
besides like your grind bands like Napalm Death and stuff,
you're gonna have bands like Siege, Heresy and Deep Wound

(01:25:31):
are kind of the ones that I think of when I think of like
before there was power violence,
these were bands that were kind of paving the way.
Sure, like Proto.
Yeah. And then Infest, when I listen to Infest,
I don't really think power violence.
A lot of people, that's where it started.
Cool.
To me, it just sounds like youth of today,
but heavier, faster and a hundred times angrier.

(01:25:56):
And I love Infest.
Like Infest is one of my favorite bands of all time.
And so I never really think of them as power violence,
but everybody quotes them as like,
and they were again, kind of, you know,
so one of their members went on to form Neanderthal,
which became Man and His Bastard.
So that they kind of helped spur the power violence moment

(01:26:20):
that happened.
Right.
And then as far as like,
because I've talked to a lot of people who are like,
power violence was only,
like it only existed from like the late 80s
to the mid 90s and any band after that era, not true.
Really, Moe is really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
And so it really depends on who you talk to.
And then there's also like,

(01:26:42):
is this band a power violence band?
Is this band a fast core band?
Is this band just a hardcore band
that has a little bit slower breakdowns,
a little bit faster, fast parts?
Yeah.
So, you know, if you're talking to a purist,
they're going to say bands like Neanderthal
or Man is a Bastard,
No Comment, Crossed Out,
Capitalist Casualties, Ass Suck, Spaz,

(01:27:02):
Apartment 213, Lack of Interest Despise You.
Like those are true from that era, from that group.
Like when I was first getting into all this music,
those were the bands.
So it was like, oh, hey, you want to know
where this came from?
You want to know where the sound was developed?
These are the guys who did it.
And the term power violence was actually coined

(01:27:25):
in I believe the Neanderthal practice space in like 1989.
Okay.
So like when Infest was active, like 86 to 88,
there was not a term power violence.
So that's why I kind of,
even though that's where most people think it started,
and I think they, you know, again, ushered it
and helped refine that sound,

(01:27:47):
no one was calling them power violence back then.
Right, obviously.
So like my question to you,
and like not necessarily a question,
but more like a leading discussion topic is,
during this time, now you have a lot of,
like the DC scene is happening,
and you have the California scene is happening.
Where is power violence happening?

(01:28:09):
Like, is there a regional scene, or is it?
Mostly Southern California.
Southern California.
So like, I mean, most of the bands I just named
are from the Southern California or maybe Bay Area.
I couldn't tell you exactly where.
But I know like Neanderthal,
which again became Man is a Bastard, Infest,

(01:28:31):
I believe No Comet and Crossed Out,
all from that area, Spaz from the area,
Capitalist Casualties.
And is power violence kind of reactionary
to what was going on in the scene?
Like it was like, we kind of don't like what's going on,
so we're gonna do something that's a little bit more
fast, hard, or is it?
It was usually like had political lyrics,
but they also didn't really fit in

(01:28:51):
on any of the shows they were playing.
Because again, those bands I named
were kind of the only ones doing it.
So they're playing punk shows,
they're playing like hardcore shows,
they're playing, you know,
kind of interspersed amongst genres,
which I mean, even, you know,
as of like 10 years ago,
when bands that sounded like this were playing,
they were usually playing on,

(01:29:11):
like locally playing on hardcore bills
or playing on like punk bills.
Yeah.
When I think of power violence,
I think more like DIY punk ethos and mentality.
Because again, like the record labels,
like Slap a Ham and like 625 Thrash was a later one.

(01:29:35):
Six Weeks, those were all kind of like DIY labels
run by the guys in the band to put out their music
and their friends' music.
And so, you know, you've got bands
who have like politically motivated things to say,
but then you've also got bands like Spaz,
where they're talking about like Golden Harvest,
like Jackie Chan, Kung Fu movies,
and skateboarding and like pop culture references.

(01:29:57):
So you have some bands that are, you know,
have something to say,
and then you have some bands that are just there to have fun,
like kind of within a genre.
But yeah, so again, just that DIY thing is real big.
And a lot of people, again, grindcore,
I always think of more as like metal.

(01:30:19):
Because again, you have the fast, the slow in there,
but it's always been more metallic and less punk hardcore.
So.
Yeah.
And then again, fastcore, thrash,
like there's this whole resurgence of stuff like that,
and people are like, oh, it's power violence,

(01:30:40):
but it's such a weird, like weird line is like,
oh, is this band, I don't know, labels and stuff.
Yeah.
It gets complicated and weird,
and depending on who you're talking to, though,
like, oh, this person is, this person isn't,
and music's cool.
I have a question as far as like,
are we dancing to power violence?

(01:31:00):
Are we like slamming to power violence?
Are we like, or is there not enough time
slash the change up in space?
No, during the slow parts,
you definitely go side to side during the slow parts.
Yeah.
And the fast parts, you just like,
it's fucking, I don't know.
Yeah, crazy.
Yeah, whatever you're feeling, just do it.
Because younger me, whenever I first heard,
when I first heard the term power violence,

(01:31:21):
in my mind, it was just like,
oh, so everybody's just crowd killing,
and just like, it's like,
the music is so crazy that it makes you wanna be violent,
quote unquote.
Right.
But it's like, it's not necessarily that,
it's more about like the fact of how fast,
how slow, how, like, the genres,
I mean, sorry, like the subject matter,
and like you're saying, the ethos as far as like,

(01:31:41):
DIY and punk, and then that not fitting in sort of situation.
I kinda came into power violence through emo violence.
Yeah, that, absolutely.
Because, you know, I was a little scrams emo kid
whenever I was growing up.
So retrospectively looking back at some of the music

(01:32:02):
that I was listening to whenever I was, you know,
coming up Orchid, Drum Stream, and Page 99.
I mean, yeah, you've got the tattoos to prove it,
the t-shirts from the show to prove it.
But those three bands, in my mind,
when we talk about like, as far as like,
the term emo violence, that's kinda what, you know.
And so, sometimes you like, grow up,

(01:32:24):
like as far as like, we didn't really know how funny
slash meme ska was gonna become.
Yeah.
Like we just, it was just a wave of music
we were listening to whenever we were growing up.
So like now that we're looking back and you see memes,
I'm like, I'm never turning my back on ska.
I'd really, that was a weird time.
But also like, you don't-
Everybody had a ska band.

(01:32:44):
Yeah, and you also don't realize that you're listening
to power violence or emo violence
when you're in the middle of listening
to all these bands through, you know,
and through just being like, fast, hard music,
whether it's, like you said,
some kids come through it through metal,
some kids come through it through punk, you know,
some kids-
Sometimes it's just alternative like, radio rock,
like heavier radio rock, like Alice in Chains,

(01:33:06):
Asa saw, let's see here, you had something on here
that I wanted to, oh, Deep Wound,
you had parentheses J Mascus.
Yeah, so that was pre Dinosaur Jr.
started around the same time as Dinosaur Jr.
Yeah, and that's gonna be in Massachusetts,

(01:33:28):
not California.
Right, but-
No, I'm just kidding with you.
I mean, Heresy's from the UK, so.
Yeah, like the stuff that influenced them
was definitely not from Southern California.
I mean, again, Infest to me just, again,
sounds like youth of today, but heavier, angrier,
faster, which is funny because youth of today,

(01:33:52):
you know, from the East Coast,
and then you've got Southern California sunshine,
but God damn, these dudes are pissed and heavy.
Hmm, there was one more thing.
Oh, I also saw here, just as far as like,
legacy and influence is concerned,
as far as like, what we're getting from power violence,
as far as like, coming out of power violence,

(01:34:13):
you've got like, what they say, early ceremony.
Yeah, like, people, again, it's that weird thing
where it's like, people classify like, early ceremony
and early trash talk as like, power violence,
which, you can hear it in there,
it's that slow like, stomp, and then the fast part,
but, and again, it all gets so intertwined

(01:34:36):
that it's like, oh, isn't it?
But I think a lot of bands who have like,
kind of carried on that legacy, there's a thing called,
compilation called Brutality in Seconds, it's four bands.
You should, I think Painkiller Records
might have put that out, I've got it at home,
but you should seek that out, buy that, listen to it,

(01:34:59):
if you want like, the best power violence-esque bands
of the last 10 years.
It has Hatred Search from Austin, Texas, started out,
I believe Alex was living in Denton, Texas
when he started as a solo project.
And then it has Mind Eraser, Iron Lung, and Scapegoat.

(01:35:26):
Scapegoat is like, the first three bands I named
pretty notable names in like, recent heavy music.
Scapegoat was not around very long,
I believe they actually got back together
just to play Hatred Search, their last show in New York.

(01:35:46):
I might be remembering that wrong, so again, call us in
if I'm fucking this up.
Let us know.
But yeah, Scapegoat only put out like,
a limited amount of material,
and everything they did was fucking fantastic,
it was so heavy, so just like, mean, great stuff.
So yeah, Brutality in Seconds, if you want,
just the best of the best of recent.

(01:36:09):
Newer-ish.
Yeah.
And then as far as like, other bands kind of doing that,
I said Hatred Search, Alex from Hatred Search,
dude is an encyclopedic knowledge about like,
power violence, fast music, heavy music.
He did some bands, Knuckle Scraper, 50-50,

(01:36:30):
those were both super fast, super awesome bands,
he's also an insect warfare,
not a power violence band, Iron Age.
Alex is fucking talented, dude.
For sure.
And then, Endless Blockade from Canada.
Okay.
Holy shit, that band was fantastic.

(01:36:51):
Speaking of Canadians.
Yeah, those dudes like, fucking awesome,
they also like, as their career progressed,
they added more like, electronics into it,
and like, harsh noise, and stuff like that,
and Andrew Nolan, who is in that band,
he does like, remixes, and he does noise stuff now,

(01:37:12):
and like, I know he did a remix for Harm's Way,
so he does all these like, cool remixes for bands
that you've probably heard of.
But yeah, they were awesome,
I got to see them at the Phoenix Project,
and there was this dude who shows up while they're playing,
and he fucking just like,
he looks like the dude from The Big Lebowski.

(01:37:33):
And he's like, bowing down to the PA system
as the noise is coming out of it.
Also, I believe on this tour, the,
I'm gonna mess up his name,
but the drummer of Iron Long was actually filling in
for the Endless Blockade, if I remember correctly,
I could be wrong on that, but I think that was a thing.

(01:37:55):
Anyways, the dude is there in the pit,
just like, worshiping the noise that's coming out of it,
then all of a sudden, he's just carving up his forehead.
Oh no.
And he's screaming, I have AIDS!
He's got like, gray sweatpants on,
white t-shirt, a robe, sunglasses, it's like, midnight.
He's got sunglasses on, he's just bleeding profusely

(01:38:15):
from the forehead, throwing it at people,
yelling that he's got AIDS.
So you get some real characters.
Yeah.
Like this stuff.
Obvious.
So yeah, Endless Blockade,
if you haven't heard of them, check them out.
Sex Prisoner, Cave State, those are newer bands.
No Man Slave, named after Infest, from Oklahoma City.

(01:38:39):
Those dudes were active, at least 10 years ago,
but fucking fantastic stuff.
No Comply, New Sweat, again, New Sweat is a newer one,
and they're really great, I'm excited to see
what all they do, and I hope that they come today
to DFW so I can see them live.
For sure.

(01:38:59):
Chest Pain, from Austin, Texas.
They actually, I believe, may have recently
just played a show for the first time in years
on the West Coast with Pavel Chekov, who are also DFW dudes.
And they played that same fest with Chest Pain.
So fucking cool stuff.
That is crazy.
The band that I kinda, again, whenever we talked about

(01:39:21):
kind of like newer stuff, sometimes they get thrown in there
as full of hell, and I wanted to shout them out
because the members are from Ocean City, Maryland,
and Pennsylvania area, which is like where my wife's
family is from, and so shout out to wah-wah loving people
from Ocean City, Maryland.
Told you any of my full of hell stories?

(01:39:42):
No.
Have I, not about the time that me and full of hell
ate at King Tut?
Oh yeah, you did, I think so.
Yeah, and got our lunch bought,
might have talked about it on here.
Yeah, we just talked about it on this podcast.
That was full of hell.
Homies from way back, love those dudes.
Love those dudes.
And they actually, their original bass player, Brandon,

(01:40:02):
and then Dylan the singer, and I don't know the name
of the drummer in this band, they just released
a new project that Alec Hughes from Hatred Search
does some guest vocals on.
I was gonna bring that up.
We're on the same page, my G.
No, I know that Dylan and Alec talk,
and they collaborate on stuff, so super cool.

(01:40:23):
I love talking band stuff just because a lot of the times,
I mean, hell, I went to see Third Eye Blind
and Yellow Card this week, so I have zero room to talk
as far as- I'm really jealous.
You know what I mean, as far as like,
but I do like getting into some of the more minutia
of things as far as, especially whenever it comes to
different subgenres, whenever it comes to punk,

(01:40:45):
and emo, and that sort of thing, DIY stuff.
A lot of this stuff is happening in and around
your hometowns.
It's happening whether you know it or not,
and it's just up to you to be involved in that scene.
And all it takes is for you to ask a punk.
You just gotta ask around where the show's happening,
go to a local record shop, see what they have

(01:41:05):
in the singles area and the local music area.
Usually, you're gonna find a lot of stuff
that's gonna be, like you said, black and white,
very done by themselves.
It's gonna be, but that's how you get
into these little scenes.
You start by asking somebody, talking to somebody,
putting yourself out there, going to a show,
buying a record, watching.
These days, watching a YouTube video,

(01:41:26):
following an Instagram account
that you may not have seen before,
but that's how you kinda check out power violence,
hashtag power violence on the Instagram
to see what you come up with.
What are you smirking about?
I feel like TikTok ruined hardcore.
Of course it did, but it's ruined most of everything.
I feel like I'm doing a bad job gatekeeping right now.

(01:41:48):
Oh, well, you know.
Sorry, elders.
Guess what?
If you can't beat them, fuck them.
Yeah.
Well, it is what it has been.
Whatever.
Again, like I said, my knowledge is not fully there.

(01:42:13):
I do not have a doctorate in power violence or sub-doctorate.
No, we don't have a doctorate in breakfast
or violence or power violence.
How much breakfast I've eaten?
Okay, so 10,000 hours is probably, you're probably there.
Yeah.
Yeah, 10 years full-time breakfast.
Yeah.
So you're the master of breakfast,
but I guarantee you, I've watched 10,000 hours of MMA,

(01:42:37):
but that doesn't make me an expert in it.
I mean, I could watch you cook for 10,000 hours
and I can't cook anymore better, any mo' better.
I've spoken English for 40 years
and I can't get that son of a bitch, right?
Tell you what, it gets worser and worser every year
as it goes.
The other day we were at, speaking of fine dining,
anniversary dinner, we went to Aba in Austin.

(01:42:58):
And so I was like,
she's like, my wife was like, you sound nervous.
I was like, I just couldn't get it out.
I'm at the, like the words were not coming out of my mouth.
It just wasn't working right.
And it's like, has nothing to do with like me
or like whatever.
Anyway, this has been another episode
of Breakfast of Champions, season one, episode 12.

(01:43:19):
We thank you for joining us.
We had a good time today talking about our Jackie Chan movies,
having Mamaka smoothie bowls.
Thank you for the Mamaka bowl.
No problem, no problem.
That's how we do it when we're ballin'.
Some weeks we're just negative in our account
and some weeks we can.
Hopefully that burger money comes through soon
and we can, I can hope I can reciprocate by ballin' out.

(01:43:42):
It's all good.
My G, this is, we're charging it to the game.
This is strictly for the love of the game.
You're running on three hours maybe of sleep
and I've got us on the Mamaka bowl.
So it's all good.
We make the teamwork to make the dream work.
But hey, to help us out,
go give us a follow on all the socials.
Please do.
Share, if you like it, share it.

(01:44:02):
If you don't like it, share it.
Yeah.
That helps us out.
Ironically share it.
Yeah.
Hate, hate share it.
I mean, I fucking hate these guys.
Don't listen to them but post the link.
They don't know shit about power violence.
Yeah.
Yeah, tell all your friends how ignorant we are
about music and MMA.
Call it in.
Let us know where you wanna fight us.

(01:44:22):
We can meet up.
We take cash and Venmo for fights.
Yep.
We're gonna have a special intro this week.
I'm gonna put that at Breakfast of Champions,
John Belushi I think at the very beginning.
So if you've watched any of the Olympics
and you're as old as we are,
you might remember back in the day,
John Belushi did an SNL sketch
about having chocolate donuts every morning for breakfast

(01:44:44):
and it being the Breakfast of Champions.
I love that he's smoking a cigarette while he's,
he's like, yeah, it's got all the sugar I need
for the pick me up in the morning,
just fucking puffing away
and eating little chocolate donuts,
a fucking icon and look where it got him.
All right, Brohams and Broham ladies,
we love you guys.
Talk to you later.
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(01:45:06):
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I hope you guys have a great rest of your week.
Bye bye.
How's it going?
I like it.
Relax, cool.
You are receiving a call from an inmate

(01:45:27):
at Tarrant County Corrections.
Do you accept the charges?
Hey, God damn it, it's Gene, Gene O'Malley again.
Now I told you to stop talking about me
on your podcast, but you did it anyway.
But you asked what I think about the attempted assassination
on our rightful president Trump.

(01:45:48):
So as much as I hate you,
send your ass over there.
You deserve to have the information that I have
and the gift of my knowledge.
Now let's start at the beginning.
John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald
both assassinated two of our past presidents
and both of them had 15 letters and their names.

(01:46:10):
Now this new son of a bitch, Thomas Michael Crook,
he donated $15 to the Democratic Party
and that is not a coincidence.
Now Lincoln was assassinated in 1846
and JFK was assassinated in 1946.
And now Trump was also born in 1946
and again, that is not a coincidence.

(01:46:31):
As we all know, Trump was rightfully elected in 2016.
He should have won in 2020, but the fucking Democrats,
they just screwed that one up.
They stole the election from him,
which everybody knows if you got any fucking sense.
Now Thomas Michael Crook, the attempted shooter
for Donald Trump was 13 years old

(01:46:53):
when he entered high school.
That's the normal age when you enter high school.
I entered high school at 16, but that's beside the point.
The event happened on July 13th, 1313.
Now here's where it gets really weird.
We all know the MKUltra experiment,
which was to blame for the JFK assassination

(01:47:17):
because Lee Harvey Oswald was under that program,
whether they liked to admit it or not, but they won't.
Now MK also stands for Mortal Kombat.
Mortal Kombat has a deal releasing on September 24th.
24 minus 13, there's a 13 again, equals 11.
And 9-11 is what you have left,

(01:47:39):
which proves that the CIA did 9-11.
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but that's none of your business.
As soon as I get out, if you talk about me
in your stupid podcast and it's not related
to President Trump, I'm gonna come find y'all

(01:48:01):
and beat the hell out of both of you.
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