Season 1 Episode 14 - Gas Station Gossip Guys! - Breakfast of Champions

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You're in big trouble though, pal. I eat pieces of shit like me for breakfast.

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Do you eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
No.

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Welcome to Breakfast of Champions Season 1 Episode 14.
Hello.
Hello. We've got new microphones and it sounds a little weird on our end so bear with us as we're getting used to this new setup.
We've got a little fancy boy set up with wireless mics.
Yeah.

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So.
We're preparing for the big time.
We're basically content creators and influencers now.
I mean I've been telling people that. This is Episode 14?
Yeah.
Yeah. We're definitely content creators. We've got 13 episodes under our belt after this. 14. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean we're doing it. We're making waves in the Fort Worth podcast scene, inspiring people to make their own podcasts.

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And at the very least eat some breakfast and maybe do a cold plunge.
Yeah. For sure.
And watch some more violence.
So we're coming to you a little late. You wouldn't know it because it's still going to come out on Thursday.
But both of us have been kind of going through some junk.
I thought I had gastro...viral gastrointest or something like that.

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And I've been like the day that we were supposed to podcast and you were like I don't feel good.
I also did not feel good.
And on Monday this past week I was up at like 430.
Just not feeling well.
And so I've been like trying to get in with a new PCP because mine thinks that I'm a liar because I don't like to take the flu shot.

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And I don't take my health seriously.
I had a doctor like that. Yeah.
And she pissed me off one time because she was just sitting in her office looking at memes instead of like helping me.
Yeah. And I'd been there for 45 minutes. So I never went back after that.
And now I got a pretty cool PCP.
So I'm in the market for just some help because I think I'm experiencing POTS.

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I don't know if you know what that is. I don't.
Yeah. So it's like poor post-op product. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Basically whenever you're going from laying or sitting to standing your heart rate elevates and it can kind of cause an effect of like a nausea, a headache.
And so Ali has been dealing with kind of something similar.

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And I've been for the longest time, I was like, oh, it's my gallbladder.
Took the gallbladder out. And now like, yeah, it's been less.
But, you know, it's just one of those things where like I have never been a huge drinker and I don't drink like at all.
Like, I think the last time I had a drink was like on my anniversary just to celebrate like a little glass of something to celebrate.

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But like it feels like I'm hung over. Like I get sweats and shakes and I want to throw up and then just like it's just terrible.
Did you get the jab? Did you get the Joe jab?
No, man.
Yeah, I did.
I did one round of the Johnson and Johnson or whatever just because I needed to get back from Costa Rica to America.
But no Pfizer, no, no boosters, none of that stuff.

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So I do want to clarify that I'm being funny and I don't care what anyone does.
Oh, yeah.
Just just because we're going on the Internet and the Internet is a wacky, wild place.
We are not anti-vaxxers nor are we pro-vax.
We are each one teach one, make your own decisions and don't judge people that live around you making their own decisions based on their knowledge and health situations.

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Exactly. I've never gotten a flu shot and I get the flu until I was 34.
Yeah.
But I did get the COVID vaccine and I call it my back alley vaccine because it literally happened like somebody solicited me off the street to get it.
Nice.
And when I got it, Ava, my daughter was with me and I was like, hey, when you're my age, you'll know if this was a good idea or not.

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You're watching history in action right now.
She was like six.
And I was like, when you're in your mid 30s, you'll know because I'll either be long gone because this was a bad idea or like, yeah, or like the world will be a great place.
I don't know.
Or somewhere in between.
Whatever.
But yeah.
Yeah.
I was just curious if maybe it was side effects from that.

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So no, actually infections including COVID-19 exacerbate the symptoms.
And so anytime you're sick, it kind of like makes that flare up even more.
Allie is in the, she's, you know, we're both kind of in the discovery process of like what's the deal.
But she thinks she has some like long COVID issues that affect the pots.

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And so anyway, it's just been a long week of like feeling like crap and trying to figure out like what we're doing here on this planet, you know, and that sort of thing.
I'm sorry.
Going through that.
Yeah, it's all good.
It's all good.
You've been up and down.
Yeah.
My week since we last spoke has been wild.
I don't want to give away too many secrets.
No, that's fine.

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The big news is raised burgers.
I'm no longer doing that.
I'm not sure if Ray is carrying it on.
But I'm going to try and get mobile and do pop ups in the future.
And I'll talk about that whenever I get to it.
And then it has been working.
Heather went back to work this week and she's loving her job.

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So our kids went back to school.
Yeah, kids are back in school.
So I've got now that I'm not doing raise.
Yeah.
And Heather's working in the afternoons.
I've got a couple hours where it's just me and I haven't experienced that in a while other than when raise was slow.
No one was there with me.
Yeah.
So we're so glad to be back after kind of a like a week and a half of not really seeing each other and kind of just dealing with life stuff and just wanted to get this out to you because, you know, I have the OCD.

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So somebody in my family might die if I don't get the podcast out on time.
6 a.m. on Thursday.
Yeah, it'll be out.
Got to be there.
Yeah.
Also, we had grand plans of like Pearl Snap, Kalachi's and coffee, coffee and all that stuff.
And so much the way that like you plan to eat well and work out and that sort of thing.

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Those plans can kind of go to the wayside and you can just wind up at a QT wondering what's for breakfast.
And so we're doing like one of those like gas station esque type breakfasts like breakfast of champions on the road.
You know what I mean?
Maybe this needs to be like an Instagram or tick tock series of breakfast of champions.
Yeah. What's your what's your gas station order?

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Yeah. And we can just do different reels.
Hey, if this sounds like an idea you want to see, let us know.
Yeah, I'm down for that.
So we've cobbled together some form of breakfast, even though it's kind of midday ish.
But I was dropping a kid off to his mom and happened to be like, hey, let's go get a drink inside this QT.

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And so we popped in and it was, you know, he had to use the restroom.
So I had a minute to look around and these bugles were just calling, calling my name because of the colors and the familiar text and the fact that they're blasted with sin of dust.
So these are the cinnamon toast crunch bugles edition, special edition.

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There's neither a window or an unhinged square to be seen.
Maybe they couldn't afford the full like package of like branding.
But also it might be like, what is it like?
False advertising if they put the cannibalistic cinnamon square on there because it's like they need to put a cannibalistic bugle.

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Yeah. And then also we have 3D energy drinks that Parker brought us.
I got these at Dollar Tree. So I was I had to go into work at eight on Sunday and I normally don't have to do that.
I was like, we're at Dollar Tree. I was like, I'm going to get an energy drink.
And they had these. And have you had a 3D energy drink?
No. OK, they're fucking good.

(08:41):
I haven't had either of the flavors we have. I normally go for it's called like Mountain Mist and it tastes like Mountain Dew, but like supercharged.
I'm going to crack one for the boys. Crack it.
That was nice. All the fizz.
That's a little ASMR for you.
But yeah, so I got these and we dropped my kids off at my father-in-law's house and they took the taste like a melted bomb pop.

(09:09):
Hell yeah. They took the bags from Dollar Tree and with them and were down the road like 10 minutes down the road.
I realized they had the energy drinks, so I had to go buy another energy drink.
Had to. And then we have these for today. That's what's up.
I always like to do that. You know, grab one or two of whatever you have because inevitably, inevitably I'll be like, oh, I really could use a Dr. Pepper right now.

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And I'm like, you only bought one last time you went. So I've been in the habit of grabbing two of everything lately.
I shop at Sam's Club for that exact reason. I want to buy two weeks worth of everything so I don't have to leave the house.
I definitely had that idea. I pitched it to my wife whenever we first started like co-mingling and living together.
I was like, look, man, I've got this spreadsheet. We can do par levels. We can, you know, really get nerdy about our stocking.

(10:04):
And she was like, no. So that idea never happened.
But I do have like had I lived a single man's life or had another type 8 personality person that I was to co-mingle with and be like, OK, update the spreadsheet.
You had half a cup of whatever. You know what I mean? We're low.
Heather and I have a shared, we have multiple shared notes of like, we have one that is the Costco list because here's where we can get the organic stuff for a better price.

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Here's the Sam's Club's list because we can get whatever at a better price. Yeah.
And then here's like the Wal-Mart Kroger Aldi list of where the cheap things are and where we buy certain things from.
Reminds me of that app. You remember Gas Buddy was popular for a hot minute. Did you ever use that?
Did it tell you like where the cheapest gas was? Yeah.

(10:55):
I think it located you and it was like, hey, bro, if you go an extra mile, they're like 20 cents cheaper.
And Heather gives me a hard time about that because I will literally go to a different gas station to save 10 cents a gallon.
I'm like, that's that's, you know, at least a dollar right there that I saved.
I'm right there with you, brother. I'm constantly looking and be like, does HEP have the better price or does Wal-Mart have the better price?

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Because they're all like right there above my house. But Wal-Mart has the loyalty program.
Murphy driver awards. They are on Sendo.
Just so nice. I've started going to Sam's Club for gas. I'm sorry. I'm a Sam's Club stan.
You're not a Costco guy. Costco guys stresses me out. I've got both memberships, but I go to Costco less than Sam's Club.

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Have you seen those TikToks of the the Costco guys? We're Costco guys. Oh, where they shove a whole hot dog up their ass.
No, but yes. I mean, that's what I first thing I do is I walk in, I get a chicken bake and a hot dog and I get a pizza.
I shove the hot dog into the chicken bake. I wrap it in the slice of pizza and I shove it straight up my ass.

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But yeah, I yeah, you're a Sam's guy. Sam's guy. I like to make sure.
Well, we're talking about gas. But no, I get gas there if I'm near one because it ends up saving me like 10 to 15 cents per gallon.
That's what's up. I always do that as well.

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All right. So I had my first sip of this 3D energy drink and it's Liberty Pop flavored.
Is this the same company that does the 3D Doritos?
Yes, these are Doritos flavored energy. I knew it. I could I could taste it.
So these have 200 milligrams of caffeine per 16 fluid ounces.

(12:55):
Not too many calories. 15 calories. Yeah, it's really good tasting for under 15, like you said, 20 calories.
So I guess these what's crazy. So I got these a dollar tree, which is now a dollar twenty five. Right. When I would buy them.
So I mean, I would usually pay between three and four dollars for a can.

(13:21):
Really? Like if I bought them at like the supplement store, the gym or even a quick trip when they had them there briefly.
But getting them for a dollar twenty five. Yeah, for sure.
We have several dollar generals in Weatherford, but no, but only one dollar tree.
And it's in like in town proper. So it's like whenever you want to go to the dollar store, you're like, I have to go in town to get a dollar tree.

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I know it's so country. I mean, that's how I feel. I have to drive over to West seven.
Give this a little shot. Let's see here. Yeah.
Does it? I'm about to find out, but I have a love hate relationship with people's.
I love vehicles. Sometimes I really like them, depending on the flavor, like just a classic people with no flavoring.

(14:14):
Kind of tastes like a Frito. Yeah, I'm not a huge Frito or corn chip guy unless there's salsa guacamole involved.
I was afraid that the cinnamon toast crunch would overpower the bugle flavor, but it's a nice mixture of both of them.
Oh, that's really good. It has a saltiness component because if you're a bugles fan, you know that they're a little bit salty.
But also the cinnamon dust from the cemento scrunches a little bit sweet.

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So you got to. Oh, sorry, it's Madison. Sorry, Madison.
They kind of remind me of like churros a little bit like that churro flavor. But also I'd be remiss to not mention the great American restaurant Taco Bell and their cinnamon twists.
The best that is very similar to that. Yeah, that is airy, but same flavor, same crunch, maybe better crunch. Yeah, definitely better crunch.

(15:09):
I used to get cinnamon twists all the time whenever I used to go to the Taco Bell with my dad. I don't know.
I think I've asked you this before, but Taco Bell used to have like on Sundays, 49 cent tacos. Yeah.
And so my dad would just go get like 10 crispy tacos and then everybody would get like a cinnamon twist and like dinner sir for under 20 bucks.

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No, we would do the same thing. Because I mean, my family, it was only three of us. Same. So it was just like, oh, three tacos each. All right.
That's nothing. Yep. A lot of Taco Bell. Yeah. When we lived here in Fort Worth, there was right off a seminary, there was a Jack in the Box.
That's right outside of campus. And those 99 cent jumbo jacks were like saviors at times.

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I don't think I had Jack in the Box until I was like a teenager because we didn't have them in Illinois.
There's one between Springfield and St. Louis and we stopped there one time on the way home from the airport.
And I remember my dad being like, oh, yeah, they use kangaroo meat for their burgers.
And like then proceeded to tell me the lore of like how in the 70s or whatever Jack in the Box was like accused of using kangaroo meat because it was cheaper.

(16:25):
That's hilarious. But have you ever had kangaroo meat? No. Don't. Does it taste like Jack in the Box?
No, it's real stringy and like gamey. Gross. Yeah. I tried it one time because like, oh, try everything.
It was not great. Also, kangaroos are dicks. So I didn't feel bad about eating it.

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I did see kangaroo squaring up with a punching bag this week and that frightened the shit out of me.
Yes. So me and Heather and Aiden were actually talking the other day about because Aiden's like, oh, I could totally take like a young kangaroo.
I was like, no way, dude. And then we were talking about that video, the guy who punches a kangaroo because it attacks his dog.
I was like. One, I imagine kangaroos smell terrible.

(17:12):
Oh, like they got to be like real like musky and just sweaty fur outdoors, sweaty for they have to smell bad and they're just fucking jacked at me.
They can stand on their goddamn tail. I hate it. But yeah, like we're telling it like there's no way. No way.

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So, yeah, what are we going to review? Let's do zero to six trumpets for the bugles. Get it.
I get it. What do you got on it? I'm going to go four point nine.
Not quite a five, but it's a tasty snack and I probably would get it again.
And if they made this a regular flavor, I think that I would probably grab it over, say, like a cheddar or like, like you said, even the plane.

(18:01):
The plane gets boring from time to time. So, yeah, I'm going to go a solid four and a half.
And like I said, I'm not a huge bugles guy. I would definitely grab these if I wanted like a sweet treat.
It you remember like checks cereal like that texture and that crunch and that sort of thing.
This would be cool if you did like a check mix checks mixed style like that would be really good with that.

(18:26):
There's some pretzels and some nuts and some chocolate or whatever in there.
That would be fun. Yeah. So thank you, QT and Dollar General for this struggle bus breakfast.
Neither of us are on the struggle bus today, but it is fun to slum it from time to time.
We were going to get a nice bus. We're going to get a nice spread. But, you know, it's we're we're men of the people.

(18:48):
We also like to keep it real. And most of the time, we're little trash pandas that like to scavenge whatever kids left over.
Like that's my favorite thing is I just listen to Faye order and I'm like, yep, you're not going to eat that.
Oh, you're probably not going to eat that. That's what I'll have for dinner. I'll have.
Heather's actually picked that up. She like in the last few months or year or so, she was just like,

(19:13):
I notice you never really order much food, but you're the biggest person. I was like, I let you guys order first for a reason,
because I know that neither one of the kids are going to eat all their food.
Heather's not going to eat all of her food. So like we'll go somewhere.
I'll order one small thing and then I'll end up clearing the table by the end of the meal.
And that's totally fine because I get a nice variety, because usually the kids order things I wouldn't.

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Yeah. I get to try things that I wouldn't normally like. And I'm like, wow, this is great.
I'm not like, but would normally order.
Last night we were ordering pizza and Faye was like, I want chicken wings and I want a salad and I want a pizza.
And then Allie's like, what do you want? I'm like, I'm good.
Because you know there's going to be chicken wings, salad and a pizza.
So yeah, it's fun times. So this week, I kind of I know we had MMA drama down at the bottom,

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but I wanted to bump that up to the top because there's so much to talk about.
We've missed some things and we've got some things that I you don't even really particularly know about.
Probably more than likely. Probably not. Do you know about the Craig Jones, Gordon Ryan drama?
Did those names ring a bell to you? Gordon Ryan.

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I saw something about Gordon Ryan on my Instagram feed, but I didn't go down the rabbit hole.
So Gordon Ryan is probably the most. How do I put this without like offending like most fans?
Gordon Ryan is probably the best jujitsu player right now. Maybe two years ago.
Two years ago, if he said like who's the best Brazilian jujitsu player? No, no question.

(20:52):
Hands down, it's Gordon Ryan. He is a mad man when it comes to grappling and that whole submission game.
And the reason that I think that not a lot of people kind of like care or know about like Brazilian jujitsu is
because I think a lot of the time it's overshadowed by the UFC and the other promotions and that sort of thing.
But also because they don't have like monthly events, they have like one big annual event.

(21:18):
It's a DCC Abu Dhabi. It's a DCC. It's Abu Dhabi something, whatever.
And then there's like other promotions like EBI, Eddie Bravo. He has his own like submission only type situation.
So let's just get into that because I want to talk about that.
So I'm going to pull up some pictures so we have like a good working knowledge of who's who and you don't get so like confused

(21:46):
because there's going to be some things that we talk about. It's a little bit of a story.
So Gordon Ryan is this guy right here. OK, I know that guy. Yeah.
So if you're not familiar with Gordon Ryan, he is this huge guy. He is from America and he is he is, like I said,

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probably the most decorated and you know, he's a seven time ADCC submission wrestling world champion,
two time IBJJF Nogi world champion and a four time Eddie Bravo international champion.
So the man has won every grappling championship there is multiple times.

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So looking at his stats, he and I are the exact same height and weight.
Why don't I look like that? Yeah, because I haven't been working out.
So Gordon Ryan, his coach is this gentleman right here, John Danaher.
John Danaher started this thing called the Danaher Danaher Death Squad. Oh, I know all about that. Yeah.

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So the Danaher Death Squad during Covid decided they were going to relocate to Puerto Rico.
There's a couple of different reasons why that, you know, were brought up.
One of them is tax reasons. I think if you're if you're an American and you and you have a business there,
I think it's like a five percent flat tax for your business or something like that.

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The other thing was, I believe there are I believe there are restrictions at the time were a little bit less crazy than
than America was whenever it came to like fasters.
So the I guess the lore is that it was voted by the team.
Let's move down to Puerto Rico.

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The only thing there is that there's only like two or three people on the team that really can make a living off of doing BJJ.
The rest of them are kind of like pay to do BJJ and, you know, making their way, you know, that whole thing.
So when they get down there, there's a couple of things that happen that are.
And again, this is allegedly we're not we are not there. We're not we don't know.

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But the couple of speculative speculative things that have happened are one, Gordon Ryan and his brother,
their father passed away while they were there.
There was some, I guess, a story about the fact that the inheritance wasn't split up the right way,
that Gordon had taken a majority share of the inheritance, leaving his little brother,

(24:26):
who is not famous, who is not a multi-championship winner, you know, kind of a thing where it's like, here, fifty, fifty.
Here's your here's my share.
But I think the quote was that because his brother hadn't contributed as much to the wealth of the family
that he didn't deserve as much of the inheritance.
Makes sense.

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That's one thing.
The other kind of scummy, like seedy side of the story is that Gordon Ryan has like this cuckold thing with his girlfriend.
And he likes to pass her around to his teammates.
And so I don't know.
I don't know why that's a thing.

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But some people are into that sort of thing.
I know that's what I said.
Some people are into that sort of thing.
But the no, it's cool.
The the like urban legend is that Gordon basically to make a man out of his brother had his brother sleep with his girlfriend whenever he was 14.

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So there's some like grossness there.
So long story short, DDS boom splits right down the middle.
You have John Donahue and Gordon Ryan.
They form new wave.
And then you have Craig Jones, Nicky Rod and Gordon's little brother forming the BT.

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So when the split happens, Gordon goes one way, his little brother goes the other way.
OK, so there's this whole like drama about like, why did the team split up?
What happened in Puerto Rico?
There's all these like jokes and podcasts and allusions to the fact that like these things happen and Gordon Ryan's basically a piece of shit.
So some text messages surfaced over the past week between Gordon Ryan and Craig Jones.

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Craig Jones started BT and I'll show you a picture of Craig Jones.
He's a cool guy.
Let's see.
Is it like the letter B or like like a movie?
No, like second like, you know, you have the A team and the B team.
Yeah.
So that's Craig Jones.
He's from Australia.

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So once they split, a lot of things started coming out like one, Gordon Ryan is really close to the guy that runs ADCC.
So whenever they talk about like pay disparity and that sort of thing, ADC has been paying their male winner ten thousand dollars for like the past several years.

(27:08):
So you can't really make a living off of banking on winning ADCC.
You'd have to go other tournaments, other tournaments and keep going.
Craig Jones brought this up and he was like, there's got to be a way to hold like an annual tournament to where people can actually make money.
Call Sheng Seng.
Kumite.

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So he decided to directly compete with ADCC and created the Craig Jones Invitational.
And if you show up and fight, you get ten thousand and one dollars.
I like the pettiness of that one dollar.
Win, lose or draw, you get paid one dollar more than the winner of ADCC.

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If you're a male, if you're a female, whoever.
If you win, what you're saying is we're going to go sign up.
Yeah, might as well get that 10k rock.
Right. I'll get choked out, choked out for a lot less.
So if you win Craig Jones, you get a million dollars.
So that would obviously bring some incentive to be like, fuck ADCC.

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I'm just going to go grapple at Craig Jones because I'm going to get ten thousand and one dollar whether I win or lose.
And if I win, hell, I walk away with a million dollars.
So the pettiness of Craig Jones is something that I'm here for.
I love the pettiness.
The other thing that I think is hilarious is that Gordon Ryan did this thing where he auctioned off his car.

(28:44):
It was a Mazda Miata.
And there is some speculation as to whether or not he actually was able to deliver that car or whether or not he just took a bunch of people's money to kind of like a raffle.
So he auctions off this car and wow.

(29:05):
Sorry. Really quick Mazda Miata.
Super tiny.
Again, I am the same size and weight as this man.
Yeah, I do not fit in a Mazda Miata.
I would not ever drive a Mazda Miata.
So the entry fee was buying one piece of merchandise from his website.
You entered to win.
Well, Craig Jones found out who got the car and bought it right underneath him.

(29:29):
And so the B team finally wins something.
So imagine you're Gordon.
He also has a copy of Gordon Ryan's book, Young and Successful.
But the pettiness is just it just doesn't stop.
He's just.
So if you want to get into like a funny, cool rabbit hole that also includes violence and that sort of thing, just kind of, you know, just search around on the Googles or the YouTube about Craig Jones.

(29:58):
And Gordon Ryan read it.
Obviously, it will give you give you this feel on it all.
I read it a lot lately and I feel not good about it.
I feel dirty.
I mean, I've only been looking at one thing about some boobs.
No, about future things we were talking about earlier.
I don't want to jinx myself.

(30:19):
Yeah, I've been just looking at like one subreddit trying to get a feel for something.
And even that is just like the amount of negativity on there.
It's like it's not as bad as being on Twitter, but it's like long form negativity.
So out of touch.
Sorry.
No, you're good.

(30:40):
So Craig Jones also this just happened.
So that's kind of why we're talking about it.
That Craig Jones in her in her invitational international whatever.
He has been in the news cycle because he fought a woman at his own tournament.
So Ryan's girlfriend.

(31:04):
No, I mean, funny enough.
It was not.
But it is Gabby Garcia, who has been in the MMA scene for quite some time.
She's also six to and Craig Jones is like, I think, five eight.
Yeah, there's there's a little bit of a height difference and a little bit of a reach difference.
And so this was kind of a spectacle because I mean, obviously men fighting women.

(31:27):
This was the way I'm sorry, the face off.
He walked right up to her and just planted a smooch on her.
She was not expecting it, obviously.
But that's good.
Also, like he needs like a step up to kiss her.
Oh, yeah.
So he submitted her.

(31:48):
But anyways, did he kiss her after he submitted her?
No. But that's the thing is that it's one of those things where, of course, you get the whole like, OK, that's assault.
You know, if it was the other way around, you know.
But I think it's all in good fun.
He is Australian and traditionally Australian people love to take the piss out of people.

(32:12):
They love to make fun of people. They love to like prank and joke and that sort of thing.
I know that that prison colony. Oh, I mean, clearly.
So I always take a look at, you know, the fighters that are in other promotions from Australia.
They're always jolly and, you know, they're great people.
And so I don't think that there's any negativity or any bad blood when it comes to Craig Jones and what he's doing.

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I think he really enjoys getting under Gordon Ryan's skin.
And I think that Gordon Ryan takes himself way too seriously and walks into a lot of this stuff.
So anyway, if you want a fun romp through the world of drama filled MMA stuff, you can go take a look at, like I said, Gordon Ryan, his little brother, Nicky Ryan, Craig Jones, Gabby Garcia.

(32:56):
Throw any of those names into YouTube and there'll be just several videos that will catch you up on the drama that's happening in the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu world.
So I thought it was cool. Craig Jones has even brought over Mackenzie Dern who fights in the UFC.
She went ahead and fought in the Craig Jones Invitational List past weekend.
She lost. So she's still made ten thousand and one dollars. That's right.

(33:20):
She's got that 10k and one. That definitely covers the hotel expenses, travel expenses, probably pays her team.
I'm saying if Craig Jones in this invitation. Yeah, we'd love to come out some podcasts.
So the other cool thing about all this is that both of these teams train right down in Austin, Texas.
So Gordon Ryan, Craig Jones, if you want to have us down, we can talk.

(33:48):
Get each of your sides of the story on the champions and really clear this up once and for all.
You know, I know you've already talked to Lex Friedman and Joe Rogan and who either of those people.
I know that those people are, you know, the podcast that you've been on. But if you'd like to give us the real scoop on what's going on,
give us a call at 682-294-0101. Also, we're at breakfast of champs pod at Gmail dot com.

(34:14):
So, yeah, give us a holler if you want to talk about what you had for your gas station breakfast order.
Or if you want to give us shed some light on what you I don't know where this phone call is coming from, but shed some light on what's going on.
It's Craig Jones calling them by the crack Jones. That's right. We got to answer.
So if you want to give us your insight as to what.

(34:37):
Boom manifested. If you want to give us the insight on what happened to Denny or does squad new wave and also B team give us all or tell us all about it.
The other cool slash funny international headline was that CNN or I think was CNN did like a cut of Joe Rogan talking about Kamala.

(35:02):
And so now there's a Kamala.
Coppola Coppola. Yeah, that's it. And is that and and and and Kamala Kamala Kamala.
I'm talking. I'm speaking. I'm speaking.

(35:24):
So I'm sorry. He was actually talking about her and they kind of cut it up to make it look like he was endorsing her saying that he like thought that she could win that sort of thing.
And if you go back and look at the original one, it was nothing like that. And so there is actually a lawsuit on the books now for misrepresentation.
So Joe Rogan has consulted with attorneys and they feel like they've got a case. And so they're pursuing that all the while.

(35:54):
There was also another Instagram post where it made it look like Rogan was endorsing RFK.
I don't think Rogan has actually endorsed anyone. He just gives everyone equal opportunity time and tries to like sort through this.
But I also would assume out of any of the candidates, that would be the one.

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So he did not endorse him. But within quite a short time, Trump took to truth social media to express his displeasure.
And I thought it was funny because it brings it full circle to our podcast that Trump said in his little tweet or whatever, he said, I can't wait for Joe Rogan to get booed at the next UFC commentates for endorsing RFK.

(36:43):
Oh, yeah, I'm sure he's going to get it.
For endorsing the candidate who likes to work out and eat whole foods and aligns with a lot of things that Rogan does.
But also, you're so not in touch with who Joe Rogan is to the UFC. The man has been the voice of the UFC for 20 plus years.
Like their biggest hype man.

(37:04):
Yeah. It's like no one's going to boo that man no matter who he comes out and says who he's going to vote for, quote unquote.
I just thought it was funny that that was Trump's like, oh, I'll show you the UFC is going to boo you.
No, not like you'll lose listeners on Spotify. No one's going to come to your.
I heard Liberty Pop is the sponsored drink of truth social.

(37:27):
Oh, wow. 3D Liberty Pop tastes like truth social.
Are you endorsing Trump right now? Jokes, jokes, jokes, jokes.
Sorry. No, it's all good. I'm feeling honorary this morning. It's all gravy.
You've had some rest. So I have I have slept a little bit.

(37:48):
Does the name Tiki Gosin mean anything to you? Sure doesn't.
I didn't think it might. But so this is like I said, we're we're messy this morning.
This is gas station food. This is like gossip. This is like just the dirt for the dirt.
This is the dirt episode. So one of our favorite friends of the show and more vocal outspoken people

(38:14):
that we talk about and reference and kind of send each other things about is Sean Strickland.
If you're unfamiliar with Sean Strickland, he's the guy that wears the gun in every hand
and a woman in every kitchen T-shirt most of the time.
And he so what's crazy about Sean is I feel like he there's like this glimmer of hope there

(38:39):
that this man is like a real human being and that he is just kind of misguided in some of the ways
that he comes across because he does stand up for things like sexual abuse and that sort of thing.
Like he is one of those things where he has like kind of been open about his own abuse from his father

(39:00):
and has spoken out against like protecting children and that sort of thing.
I know that's a very like dog whistly right wing type thing.
But this man speaks from experience, not from Facebook. Yes, absolutely.
So while it does kind of align with those talking points, there are other things.
You know, he is not bought into the whole like Colby Covington being up Trump's butt.

(39:22):
I like the fact that he's a fake patriot.
He is trying to be what the right wing wants him to be really wholeheartedly.
And you can see like where the missteps are. But he's not a liar.
He's not someone that I can go. This man has said stuff to sell a fight.
This man has not owned up to his shit. He constantly is owning up to I'm an asshole.

(39:45):
I've said the wrong thing. I've come back and apologize. Like he's not a liar.
Yeah. I mean, if he's taking accountability when he says that he's said something cool, like, yeah, that's good for him.
And I just don't I just don't find him to be like a personality or someone that is like putting on a different person persona for the public versus like he's not wearing the MAGA hat because he wants to get that 50 percent of the crowd.

(40:13):
He's actually trying to do that and is living that or whatever, whatever.
He put out a post this past week that really, really, in my opinion, rocked my perception of MMA media.
And I think that we, you and I can probably fill in the gap there for some of the balls that have been dropped because I think that when it comes to Sean Strickland, a lot of the media throws the baby out with the bath water.

(40:42):
They're like, oh, that guy's crazy. Don't listen to what he says. But this gentleman, Tiki Gosen, has been brought up to my attention because of Sean Strickland.
And apparently he's not a great guy, but he is very involved in the background and in the behind the scenes of management, promotion and even involved in the UFC.

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So he manages fighters like Al Jermaine Sterling is one of the fighters. He's constantly in and around the front row of the UFC.
You know, he's glad handing the big the big wigs. So this is someone that definitely has access, that definitely has influence and that definitely is a part of the UFC.

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So this sport that I care about so much and that I love, I want to get rid of this person. So he is a groomer.
And he did some things to an underage lady at a gym.
And so whenever this was brought to the attention of Sean Strickland, it was brought to the attention because somebody was trying to get Tiki to manage Sean Strickland.

(41:57):
And so Sean Strickland, being the guy that he is, did a little bit of due diligence. It was like, well, who is this person? Asked some of the other fighters who he was.
And then he ran across somebody in a gym that kind of gave him the real deal spiel on this person. And so one of the persons that he was training with said while he was at Tiki's gym, Tiki isolated his girlfriend and basically had sex with her while they were training at the gym and held it over his head that he's like influential.

(42:30):
And so that guy wouldn't make a big deal about it. But then another story came out that he was actually grooming an underage person.
This person is now an adult. So this happened quite some time ago. But this person has the ability to come forward and actually give her account of what happened now that she's had time to process.
And Sean Strickland got in touch with that family, talked to both the father and the person that was abused and said, I don't want to have anything to do with bringing pain to your family.

(43:04):
But I'm being told that I'm getting sued for defamation of character versus this person.
I will crowdfund and spend my own money to lawyer up to the highest degree if you would like to pursue this. If you don't want to have anything to do with this, you don't want to relive this. If this is something you want me to just drop, I'll immediately drop it and never talk about it again.

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Both the father and the person that was abused said, please do everything you can to get this man prosecuted for what he's been doing.
Excellent.
So Sean came with a video response to what's been going on. I mean, this man is like sitting in his garage and like not putting on airs. Like this is just like a regular.

(43:49):
He didn't like make a production about it. He just said, I just got off the phone with this person. This is what they said.
So in light of that, you have UFC fighters making statements on X like Al Jermain had to come out and make a statement that said, I'm just now learning about this and I'm having to like distance myself from my own manager.

(44:11):
Because of this.
I mean, good on him for doing that, like finding out the and then cutting that person off.
Yeah, obviously he's not, you know, I don't know what's going to happen with this whole situation, but I do know out of the 700 plus people that are signed to the UFC, there's probably only one or two that you don't want to like mess with when it comes to like, I'm crazy.

(44:37):
Are you crazy? Because Sean Strickland is crazy.
Yeah. And when strong strict Lin believes that he's on the side of right and the side of righteousness, I think, and I'm pretty sure the man will do pretty much up to anything, including death to defend his honor to defend what he believes is right.
And so I think that this person Tiki, if he is pursuing this defamation lawsuit is going to be in way over his head because I think that like the thing that that Sean said is that he never really said that if he believed that he did or didn't, he's giving reports of what other people are saying.

(45:14):
So he never really defamed the guy at all. He was just saying, Hey, this is what I heard when I was doing my due diligence to somebody said, Hey, Tiki should manage you because he doesn't have like a manager.
He doesn't whatever. So if this all of this kind of like goes the way that it goes, I'm hoping that this person will get kicked out of the UFC and never touch another Matt ever again.

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Never be involved with children ever again and hopefully serve some prison time for the things that he's put people through mentally, physically and spiritually.
Because I mean, I was just thinking about this with my son. There are so many parents that entrust the safety of their children to martial arts schools and academies.

(45:58):
And for you to betray that trust is probably the lowest fucking thing you could ever do in life.
I this is extreme, but literally if you touch kids, just pull it to the back for sure. That's not extreme. That's that should be there.
We shouldn't be putting these people in prison. And I know that, you know, it's a whole discussion, but really a bullet's really fucking cheap.

(46:25):
You make sure that never happens again. Yeah, we don't have to spend taxpayer money making sure that they're comfortable in a cell with their bodies.
I know that most of those guys get taken care of in prison. Yep. But still, if if you hurt kids, just fucking die.
So the thing that pissed me off and the thing that the reason I'm bringing it up, if for no other reason,

(46:53):
I want one source of MMA, whether it's us with our 10 subscribers or whatever,
somebody needs to stand up and say that this is happening and let people know.
Because the thing that Sean pointed out is if Sean was to do something silly, there would be 10, 15 stories like that.

(47:17):
Tweets, stories, an in-depth look at his life, why he's fucked up in the way that he is.
But the second that he brings something that is actually like newsworthy, noteworthy, a concern, not one fucking article, not one fucking tweet.
Nobody stood up and said, hey, this shit is happening. Maybe. And it's not cool.

(47:43):
And but it's like, like, why is that? Why can he like it?
If he were to like, oh, I know for a perfect example, somebody tried to break into his truck and the surveillance video of him coming out and confronting the person with the gun.
That was everywhere for days upon days upon days upon days. It gets clicks. It generates revenue. Yeah.

(48:07):
And so to me, it's like, is Tiki like friends with some of these MMA news reporters stories because he's so close with the UFC.
And so fuck that. We don't know Tiki. So we're going to report it.
There is a predator at the UFC allegedly. And we're not cool with that.
You know, Dana, whoever up at the UFC, please do the due diligence, get this guy out of the fucking sport forever.

(48:34):
And so we never have to hear about him or talk about him again, because that shit is has no place, no place in breakfast or violence.
It's just, you know, not to make light. But so lastly, speaking of MMA media, someone that I hold in high regard,
someone that I kind of look to for my sources of MMA news because of the fact that he has so many great contacts is Ariel Hwani.

(49:01):
He is a guy from Canada, but he is kind of involved in the UFC very closely to the fact where.
I mean, there's compilation videos of Dana White talking badly about him as a reporter.
So while he's just a reporter, he still has like a caricature in the UFC. You know what I mean?

(49:24):
There's been plenty of fighters that have like spoke ill of him, don't like him.
There's plenty of like compilations of like fighters and people in the UFC getting into it with Ariel Hwani.
But the one thing is that man has been reporting on the UFC for I would say 10, 15 years.
And he's one of the only ones that has been like consistently showing up.

(49:46):
He had a deal with Vox Media and Spotify for the past couple of years.
And they brought to you the MMA Hour on Mondays.
And it was like a three or four hour long live podcast that they streamed on YouTube for completely free.
And he had a couple of producers, but lots of call in guests.

(50:08):
I mean, every Monday you would have three or four UFC fighters, two or three coaches.
He's had famous boxers, rapper. I mean, it's like it becomes like more than the UFC.
Exactly. The goals studio contacts, calling in, you know, talking to the people that are fighting this week.
That would be great. But he announced this week that his contracts with both Vox and Spotify are up and he is not renewing with them.

(50:40):
And I think the reason is what we are doing right now is the next wave of sports media consumption.
I think so, too. We see it with it is what it is.
We see it with Shannon Sharp. We see it with Shail Sonnen.
We see it with a lot of different personalities. It's no longer a necessity.

(51:04):
Even ESPN is trying to conform to this model by bringing in Pat McAfee.
He basically is doing his own show on ESPN. He gets to curse on ESPN.
He gets to drink on ESPN. He gets to do basically whatever the hell he wants.
Because I think that ESPN recognizes that the tide is turning when it comes to sports media consumption.

(51:27):
We don't want to have the stuffy suit guy behind the desk saying boom, shock, a locker for an hour.
We want to downtown. We you know, some of us don't care about basketball.
Some of us don't care about soccer. You know, when you have the top 10 plays and like it's nine of them are from soccer.
And you're like, I don't fucking care about this. You know what I mean? I do. I love soccer.

(51:48):
I'm just saying it's becoming a thing where you're going to individuals that have some sort of like entertainment factor that talk about personal things that also bring in, you know, some other thing.
You know, Shail, Ariel, they're great people, but Shail's funny.
And he's like, you know, he'll tell you about everything. His kids will come in the shot.

(52:14):
Whereas Ariel's like, I have to go to the studio. I have notes to follow. I've got calls.
So I think what Ariel probably is doing is revamping his model and he will come back in a way that is more DIY and self-produced.
That's the other thing. Shail's never not at home. He's in his, you know, he's in his house doing his podcast a couple of times a day.

(52:36):
He doesn't have to go anywhere. So he gets to live in Westland, Oregon and see his family every day and still get the same views that someone would that would have to go into Bristol, Connecticut to ESPN studios.
Like who wants to deal with that?
Live in the dream.
Yeah. So I think this this move by Ariel is kind of a signal to the rest of us that the money is no longer in contracts with big media companies.

(53:03):
Nobody's going to get that Rogan couple hundred million dollars, Spotify, they are probably kicking themselves for giving him that because I mean, the move is self-produced independent DIY productions.
It's always been the move.
Always. Yeah.
But when it comes to when it comes to sports specifically, I think that we're seeing a tide turn and I think that we're right there on the wave.

(53:29):
So we want to thank everyone that's been with us for the first 13 episodes.
We're kind of seeing, you know, some moves in our direction when it comes to the way that sports and in particular mixed martial arts is presented.
Everybody's got their own YouTube channel.
Everybody's doing a podcast, whether you're a fighter.
I mean, sugar, Sean has his own podcast.
You've got coaches that have podcasts.

(53:51):
You have whole teams that have podcasts, gyms that have podcasts.
And it's just becoming a thing where now it's more like a communal thing and like the MMA community lives in the podcast region.
And we're we're right there in there.
So I'm I'm happy about it.
I'm glad that we're able to bring our love of breakfast and movies and our personal life into it.

(54:12):
But we're still able still able to cover the important things like obviously, you know, how much time can you spend talking about one UFC event every single week?
There's 10 fighters, maybe 10 minutes apiece.
You got 100 minutes there or whatever.
You've got to fill it out with like more stuff.
So that's why we do breakfast reviews and talk about our lives and that sort of thing, because that's kind of what's more important.

(54:34):
The sport is, you know what I mean?
It's it is what it is.
It's bread and circuses.
It's fun. Yeah, it's fun.
It's a hobby.
It's a past.
So with that being said, we're going to leave the drama portion of MMA, the dirt portion, and we're going to go into something a little bit more positive.

(54:56):
What's going on right now is the Dana White Contender Series is happening tonight is week two.
So get caught up on.
Yeah.
So last week was week one.
If you didn't get a chance to watch it, we wanted to just highlight a couple of things that we saw.
Was this your first time seeing a contender series show?

(55:17):
No, after watching it, I realized I'd seen some episodes like on Hulu or something a while back.
Yeah, I think it's a really fun show.
Also, speaking of what we were just talking about, I'm sorry to kind of the whole self-produced, self-contained media.
There's another.
So Dana White has three shows that are kind of like reality based shows.

(55:41):
The Ultimate Fighter, which is yeah, I mean, I think it's on season like 20 something right now.
And we were kind of catching up on that as a family.
This season's coaches are Valentina Shevchenko and Alexa Grasso.
So it's a very cool lead in into UFC Noche that's happening in September.
So that's if you've not seen The Ultimate Fighter, that's where Nick, I'm sorry, Nate Diaz kind of became popular.

(56:09):
He was in the house.
A lot of champions come from The Ultimate Fighter.
It's a reality series where fighters live in a house.
They compete against each other for a chance to win a contract.
It's a very cool series.
World rules.
Yeah, exactly.
The other one is the one that we're talking about right now, which is the contender series.
This is a weekly series where it is kind of set up like a fight night where you have walk ins.

(56:33):
There's no house.
There's no anything like that is a very like black and white.
We're at the apex.
You walk in, you fight, and based upon your performance, Dana either gives you a contract or doesn't.
Now, the one that I love is called Dana White's Looking for a Fight.
Have you seen that one?
I have not.
Okay.

(56:54):
Dana White's Looking for a Fight is cool because he actually goes to other promotions.
So like he'll go to like a LFA promotion and like their biggest fight of the year.
He'll go to that and he'll see like he'll put together a little notebook and he's like,
we're supposed to watch these fights and he'll give somebody an invitation to the contender series from Looking for a Fight.

(57:18):
The reason I bring this up is because I couldn't find Looking for a Fight this season on ESPN.
The Ultimate Fighter lives on ESPN.
Contender series lives on ESPN.
Fight nights, pay per view, all that lives on ESPN.
I finally found it.
It lives on YouTube.
It's under Dana White's YouTube channel, not the UFC's YouTube channel.

(57:39):
And the man is self-producing the series now and releasing it on his own only on YouTube.
So exactly the model we're talking about from the top all the way down to us.
It's all about he's like, I see where this is going.
You see where the ad revenue comes in on YouTube.
It's like I know back in like 2020, I met somebody who knew someone who was like interviewing for Mr. Beast.

(58:06):
And they asked for like seventy five thousand dollars for their yearly.
Something in that range.
And they just like kind of laughed at this person in the interview.
And they're like, oh, we do like a quarter of a million dollars a week just in ad revenue.
Yeah.
Or like just insane numbers.
So when you're Dana White big, that ad revenue, you don't need that middleman.

(58:31):
He's cutting the middleman.
And I think within the next two years after the ESPN contract wraps up, you're going to find all of these shows either self-produced on YouTube and he's just eating all that ad revenue or he's going to just basically hire it out to the best bidder.
So Contender Series could be on Netflix and Ultimate Fighter could be on Hulu.

(58:52):
And what you know, I mean, it could be on one of those things where you're going to have to really hunt and search for it.
But also the flip side of that is if YouTube sees all these people doing that.
Oh, hey, you have to have YouTube premium in order to watch this content so that they can cash in on it, too.
Yeah.
So looking for a fight, I think this season, it's better than it's ever been.

(59:14):
They went to Toronto, I believe.
I sent you the clip within 30 seconds of the episode, the intro happens and you see where they are and they kind of let you know what's happening.
They walk into a spa and Dana White makes Dean Thomas and Matt Serra get into a cold plunge for three minutes.
Wild.

(59:35):
Isn't it wild?
Isn't it wild?
I was just telling him, I also sent you that Instagram reel of that new A24 movie where Y2K is a real thing.
And I'm just like, OK, that's my idea.
You know, I challenged Jonah Hill to an MMA fight.
For sure.
And what's the other guy? I like him from SNL. Kyle Manning.
Yes.

(59:56):
Both of them.
Kumatai style.
So the first, let's see here.
Dana White's Contender Series.
Sorry, I'm chewing.
No, you're good.
I'm leaving dead air.
So last week is the one we watched. Let's see here.
Loner Kavanaugh and An Tuan Ho was that first fight that we watched.

(01:00:23):
Whoa. If you have not like, it's worth watching just for the first fight.
Correct.
I turned that thing on and those are two flyweights.
They're little guys, but you had a first round KO with punches with two minutes and 35 seconds in the first round.
Dude, that was sleep and beauty.

(01:00:45):
Yes, it really was.
The next fight after that was Jose Delgado and Ernie Cuarez.
Another just phenomenal finish in the second round.
You have a knockout with knees and punches.
Man, it was those first three fights.
The next one, Bruno Lopez and Mikhail Santiani, a TKO in the second round to punches.

(01:01:09):
Those first three fights.
Just boom, boom, boom.
And that's the first episode of this season, so I can only expect more and more and more phenomenal finishes.
So if you want to get into it, get into it.
It's only the first week. You can go back and watch the first episode within like an hour, I believe.

(01:01:30):
It's going to take up your time.
You're going to see unsigned UFC fighters doing basically everything they can in front of an empty apex.
And Dana White, Mick Maynard and Shawn Shelby, who are the matchmakers.
And they're doing everything they can to get a contract.
That night, one fight, one shot.
You know what it kind of reminds me of? Back in the late 90s, early 2000s, I was super into basketball.

(01:01:57):
I kind of burnt out on NBA because it was like, oh, this is just cash, a paycheck.
But then I'd watch college basketball. It's like, these dudes are hungry. They want it.
They're trying to take the next step. And that's what this reminds me of.
It's like, I'm going to watch college basketball.

(01:02:20):
Yeah, that's exactly what it considers.
I feel you on that. Yeah. It's exactly like that.
You have these guys that are doing everything they can to get to the pros.
So there were four fighters that were signed.
Obviously, the first three fighters were signed based upon their performances alone.
The last one that was signed was Mansour Abdulmalik.
He also had a TKO and was signed.

(01:02:43):
Now, the cool thing that Dana White mentioned several times in this episode is that he is not looking for 30-something-year-old contenders.
Damn, I'm out.
But he signed two of them. So two of the four guys, he went against his own rules of like, I'm not looking for 30-something contenders.
Went ahead and signed them anyway based upon their performances.
So it is not too late. You can still pass my prom.

(01:03:07):
Yeah. So looking forward to that. This evening, we're going to watch that.
You're not because this is coming out on Thursday.
I'm off all day on Thursdays. I get caught up on both episodes Thursday.
Yeah, man. So before we go into our Fight Night preview, you got a few minutes.

(01:03:29):
Yeah, I'm good. You're chilling.
I wanted to talk about top five war films.
I've put a little bit of thought, but this is going to be mostly off the cuff besides my number one.
Sure. I feel the same way. I didn't want to think about it too hard.
I wanted to more have the discussion like we normally do.
And so the three questions I have, and maybe we can answer this as we talk about these movies, I thought, what number one, what makes a good war film?

(01:04:00):
Two, is violence more acceptable portrayed through the lens of war? Because we are a violence podcast.
That goes back to like that also that internal question of like, if I were to be asked to serve, could I do it based upon the humanity of it all?
That whole Muhammad Ali, no, no, what did he say? No Vietnam, never did nothing to me.

(01:04:23):
So the last one is, are war films considered in your mind propaganda, recruitment, or an important memorialization of historical events?
So I know obviously there's not going to be any hard and fast answers to that.
But I think that that's some of the things that I think about whenever I see a war film.

(01:04:46):
So number one, what makes a good war film? I think personally, the answer to that would be the accuracy of the historical events.
Yeah, for sure. There's so many films that like, I'm like, oh, this really happened.
And then you go read about it and you're like, it was exaggerated a little bit for the movie.
But one of my one of the movies on my list is going to be one of those movies where they took three historical people and combined one.

(01:05:16):
I kind of know where you go with. Yeah, I'm sure you do.
But also, whenever I was a kid, especially whenever it comes to like the 80s and 90s babies, whenever it comes to like rating movies,
we had like a much looser definition for what is PG and PG-13 whenever we were kids.
So you have movies that are like, you know, teetering on the edge of like are now that were a little bit more acceptable for younger eyes when we were growing up.

(01:05:45):
And also, we didn't consider like war violence or like the gore that you see in war movies as heinous as something that you would see like in a serial murder movie or slasher.
I think it's also because a lot of our grandparents and even, you know, fathers served in World War II, Korea, Vietnam.

(01:06:08):
So we were hearing about all this stuff for sure.
And so, so, yeah, like we're hearing about this stuff and knew like kind of the gist of it.
We learned about it in history because it was like the last big things that happened like globally.

(01:06:29):
So I think that we were kind of almost desensitized to in war films because we saw it everywhere.
Like you turn on Discovery Channel, there's a DG special or there's a Civil War special.
They love to show like what happened to Hitler in the last days.
Yeah, like that. So I think to an extent with war films were desensitized to that drama.

(01:06:52):
And so to answer one of the questions, what I think makes a good war movie, whether it's fictional or nonfiction, is the human story.
And telling the story of the people who are there because then you can empathize with them, what they went through, the mindset they had to get in to do that.

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And I think that's why my number one pick is what it is.
Let's hear it.
Apocalypse Now.
God damn, such a great movie.
Yeah, like that one. And this one actually popped up too. I don't know if I would consider it a war movie, so it's going to be a horrible mention.
But again, telling the story of like the human story of it, the deer hunter, like that human story, the repercussions.

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And now we're really like we have a name for PTSD and what the veterans have been through, what they have seen and what they've had to do for their own survival.
For, you know, America.
Yeah.
Without getting too like about it.
What men and women who serve go through and the mindset that they come out of is very complicated.

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And in the world today, it's definitely important to talk about those things.
Yeah, we were just talking about CMI before we started this. And I actually wrote Top Five War films before all of that kind of blew up a couple of weeks ago.
But I think it's one of those things where there are two things to it.

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One, I think that you and I, because of our age, we are lucky enough to see how quickly technology has advanced.
I think our kids are going to have zero idea of what kind of our lives were like without the Internet, without some sort of like digital pocket assistant at all times.

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That life will never exist again.
So I think that we also with this younger generation, we're so far removed from like the analog wars of like, you know, we now it's all about drones and proxy wars and biochemical.

(01:09:19):
Exactly.
Like crumble you instead of, oh, these guys shipped off and they were fighting people face to face.
Yeah, they were in trenches with fucking muskets. Like, there was no satellites.
There was no, you know what I mean? It's just like, I think that we have like because we had that partial analog childhood, we still have that tangible connection to the personalization of the war that our parents, grandparents and great grandparents had to live through.

(01:09:49):
Whereas now, like you said, or like we've been talking about, the technology is just it's unfathomable for my kids to think like you couldn't just call up somebody and be like, hey, I need help.
You know what I mean? Like you're you're in the elements. You're in a foreign country.
You're you know, no one speaks your language. There's no translators.
Like that stuff definitely still happens.

(01:10:11):
Yeah.
But we don't hear about that stuff.
So we've got Apocalypse Now that we mentioned and the Deer Hunter, one that I wanted to bring up strictly because of like nostalgia sake for me was Good Morning Vietnam.
Yeah, that's a good one.

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When it comes to the humanity of it all, I think that's one of those things where you have the lens of someone who is not a soldier who has more of a the time to contemplate the things of life, be it art, like music, beauty and a passerby.
I think that that is one of those things that, like you said, is very humanizing about the fact that we're in another country. We're like even the disparity of like the general and his like thought process of like why we're there, how we operate that whole thing.

(01:11:08):
Whereas like Robin Williams character was like, dude, chill out a little bit.
Like, it's one of those things where it's like, you kind of go back and you realize that like there was probably people all on the spectrum of like believing in the cause all the way down to like probably didn't even have the wherewithal to like know about the cause.
They were just like shipped somewhere because their parents said they had to go somewhere.

(01:11:32):
The music is obviously going to be etched in my memories forever. Robin Williams as a character and an actor. We just showed the kids Mrs. Doubtfire last week.
So I think that what's crazy is man, Forrest Whitaker being in that movie and then he was also in Bloodsport and that young Forrest Whitaker connection there.

(01:12:00):
Yeah, he's a great actor. Another one of the movies that I wanted to bring up that maybe that we don't think about as far as like a war movie is concerned is Bray Hart.
Yeah.
There are scenes of war activities there, but they're in a little bit of more smaller scale.
And that goes back to more along of that analog war because I love that movie for those scenes because of like I think did Mel Gibson, did he direct it?

(01:12:32):
Yeah, just like in the passion.
Yeah. So when you see him like riding to the middle and then like coming back and like the extended battle scenes, we had never really seen anything like that. You see like somebody getting hurt and then it's cut away.
He kept that there for a while. The immensity of like you could see the camera shaking whenever the horses were like, you know, just like there's so many good parts of that as far as like the older type of war like invaders, nobility versus like Savage and like, you know, just

(01:13:12):
the religiosity involved in all of the full Mel Gibson experience. Yeah. So my next my next pick is actually going to be a Mel Gibson movie.
Okay. The Patriot. The Patriot. I love that movie when I was growing up, just because like I was really into the Revolutionary War for some reason when I was in like middle school. Yeah.

(01:13:34):
And like late elementary schools and that's around the time that movie came out of my life and I probably saw it like four or five times. I think I've probably seen it a few times. Like I watched it more when it came out on VHS and stuff but saw it in the theater multiple times.
And I know it's not necessarily historically accurate. There's not you don't necessarily like fuel for the characters in every way and there's like certain moments that really get that gut reaction, but again the brutality of like the Revolutionary War like hey we're all going to line up in lines and walk across the field and shoot at each other while cannon fires coming down.

(01:14:09):
And then his character, which is based on, I believe, three historical people kind of came up with the first concept of guerrilla warfare and like hiding in the woods and attacking the flank and doing that as of like the regular like British combat.
Yeah.
I agree with you on that for sure.

(01:14:32):
And I think that he is completely underrated as a filmmaker. Yeah, I mean, clearly he's anti semitic or whatever, whatever. But, uh, this is what I was looking for.
The next movie, I wanted to bring up and I wanted to ask you I'm sure you have because you're much more of like a movie buff than I, but did you ever see this one threads.

(01:14:56):
I think it did.
So this is considered by most people that make lists that do those ranking list as like one of the goriest movies or one of those quote unquote like darkest movies that you've ever seen.
I'm thinking about it and if I did see it it was a while back I don't remember it, but I know that it's been on some of my lists of like, gotta see this.

(01:15:20):
It's like the movie that a 24 stole from me. This movie is like a what if. And so, this is, it was actually a television movie that the BBC put out in 1984.
And it was basically a dramatic account of a nuclear war that affects Great Britain, specifically in the city of Sheffield in northern England. The plot centers around two families as a comfort confrontation between the United States and the Soviet Union erupts.

(01:15:55):
As the nuclear exchange between NATO and the Warsaw Pact begins the film depicts the medical economic social and environmental consequences of nuclear war.
It was shot on a budget of 400,000 pounds.
And it is the first film to ever depict a nuclear winter.

(01:16:16):
So basically the fallout of what happens after a nuclear bomb.
It also has been called the film which comes closest to representing the full horror of nuclear war and its aftermath as well as the catastrophic impact of the event that would happen on human culture.
Is this one that I want to say Reagan but I could be wrong that he saw this and like change, like, was like hey I have to change my outlook on like nuclear weapons.

(01:16:46):
That's a great question. There's some movie and it may not have been Reagan it may have been a different president but like after it basically scared the shit out of them to where they change their nuclear policy.
Well, yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't doubt it.
It, it really, really really killed me whenever I watched it.

(01:17:08):
I.
It is.
So threads is streaming on to be for free. Okay, so he's listening this and wants to check it out I'm gonna put it on my list to watch this week so I can revisit and get sad.
I mean, I think it was one of those like, I was going down the rabbit hole of like, oh, you read it, like, what's the darkest film you've ever seen and it was consistently one of the ones that was like rated the worst to watch.

(01:17:43):
And so, yeah, so yeah check that out.
Did you go ahead just an aside not a movie but did you ever read the book, Alas Babylon. I don't think so.
So, I think it's considered a young adult.
Like one of the copies I had was from a sixth grade class, not mine, I bought it.
Resale but it was had the teachers name and said sixth grade class.

(01:18:08):
So, oh we've got an audience today. Very nice. Hi guys.
It's kind of similar story I want to say it came out in the early 50s. Okay. And basically like Russia drops bombs they launch a full scale, like, nuclear assault on the mainland us.

(01:18:31):
And it takes place in Florida, and it has like radiation sickness has people banding together. It, it's a real bummer of a read. And so thinking about reading that in sixth grade especially because it was like from the 80s early 90s.
Copy that I had I was like, that fuck my shit. Oh yeah, that like reading as an adult I read it in 2020 when everything shut down I went back and revisited.

(01:19:01):
It was just a bummer to read but it's so well written.
It. Yeah, so threads reminds me of that. Yeah. Another one that whenever I think about war movies and like non traditional war movies is the pianist.
Have you ever seen that.
You need to check that out. It's one of the least dialogue films I've ever watched. I like I know it, I know I need to see it but fucking Adrian Brody. No.

(01:19:36):
Can't think of his name the pedal director. Oh, Roman Polanski. Yeah, I'm just like,
I love that dude. Yeah, for sure. But yeah, I know.
Yeah, separate the art for the artist on that. Yeah, but no I've heard is great. It is phenomenal I mean Adrian Brody really fucking did the thing in that movie but like, obviously he's Polish.

(01:20:01):
I think of World War Two, and he's basically just trying to find a place to hide. And the entire time he's like the most revered concert pianist in the world and so he's like, practicing on nothing.
For the most part. And then I think there's a scene where he gets either caught by the Gestapo, and they realize who he is and so they actually have him playing for them. And yeah, it's just one of those things where it's just like fuck man.

(01:20:34):
Lastly, I think it would be crazy if we didn't talk about Inglorious Basterds. Yeah. Just because of the sheer hilarity of the fact that like you see the original.
No, I have no Italian exploitation. Yeah, I know that it is I just had it is nothing like it is low budget, it is fun it is dirty.

(01:21:01):
I'll put it on DVD if you want to borrow it. Yeah, I'll for sure borrow it. Yeah, I think Inglorious Basterds is one of the ones that I like to try to watch maybe like once every other year or so strictly for the hilarity of like Brad Pitt throughout the whole thing and just like the cameos I forget that Mike Myers is in it every time I watch it until he comes in.

(01:21:22):
I have forgotten until you said that. Yeah, so it's like it's a fun watch. Christoph Waltz is freaking amazing and the way that he like terrorizes Shoshana throughout the entire film because he like has a sneak exhibition that it's her just like, plus the fact that like it's just such overkill when they kill Hitler and that movie theater.

(01:21:44):
They just they shoot him they blow him up they set him on fire it's like basically anything and everything you could think of like to kill somebody they they did it to Hitler in that movie.
Have I ever told you that I made a burger named Inglorious Bastard, and I put it on a menu. It was just like a monthly special, it was a burger on a pretzel bun with a beer cheese grilled onions, bacon like all vegan.

(01:22:11):
It was so fucking delicious. Got an email from someone like basically calling me a literal Nazi for putting a burger on there. I was like, have you seen the fucking movie it's all about killing Nazis. Like you missed the point of the movie the whole point like what the fuck.
It blew my mind that someone was so offended by me doing it was also an October like it was not to her face type thing so I did then glorious bastard and somebody like you're a literal Nazi like sent email to like the contact form on the website.

(01:22:48):
Lame. Yeah, it was.
Were you were you first to watch Saving Private Ryan in a school like I was, I was not forced I actually the first DVD I ever bought.
Really, yeah.
I haven't seen the movie in years. I remember like when it came out.

(01:23:09):
This is the most realistic fiction war, all that the movie is fine. It's got Vin Diesel and that's pretty sick right.
But like, it's good I think Band of Brothers and Pacific are way better. For sure.
Two of the best shows ever made. Yep. Or many series or whatever.
Yeah, I would definitely choose Band of Brothers over Private Ryan.

(01:23:34):
Private Brian.
So we've got a fight night coming up.
This Saturday, August 24th. It is for free if you have ESPN and ESPN plus.
So let's start at the bottom of the card and work our way up.
All right, let's get it. Let's get it popping here. Yes, lots of shadows.

(01:23:58):
Lots of shadows. All right. So down at the bottom kicking us off.
We've got a women's flyweight bout of Wang Kong.
I'm already betting on Wang Kong.
Wang Kong versus Victoria Leonardo.
Wang Kong has one of those user submitted headshots. So you're going against our normal.
I know, but. But the name.

(01:24:20):
And I know that like, you know, I should probably go be going for the USA and not China, but Wang Kong is such a bad ass.
It's like Chun Li or like any other bad ass fucking Chinese names that are fighters like that.
All right. So let's go Wang Kong. Sorry, Victoria Leonardo.
If you were Victoria Donatello, I might pick you because Donatello is my favorite.

(01:24:45):
And next we have women's bantamweight bout between Jacqueline Cavalcanti from Portugal who has no picture.
And she's fighting Josiane Nunes from Brazil, who is obviously in the UFC.
Well, I know who we're going with here. Let's go with Josiane Nunes and the lightweight bout coming up.

(01:25:07):
We have Vyacheslav Boryshev versus James Yanatop, a Russian versus a Peruvian.
Going Peru. You're going Peru? Yeah.
Hmm. He is the favorite. He. Yeah.
You got to give 200 to win 100.

(01:25:28):
All right. James Yanatop. I think that's how you say that name or Lana top.
It's two L's and he's Peruvian. So I want to say maybe it's a Y. Yeah. James Yanatop.
We're going to go with you, dog. You got a face tattoo.
So you should cash in for us. A lion tattoo on your titty, too.
Mm hmm. Middleweight bout Zachary Reese versus Jose Daniel Medina from Bolivia.

(01:25:53):
Mr. Medina does not have a picture, so we're going to go with Zachary Reese.
I don't want to. I don't. I don't know. No. This looks like an imposing shadow, though.
Yeah, that that looks like the shadow I see when I wake up in the morning.
This one right here looks like a legit cut out of a black piece of paper.
This one looks like a shadow man from too much Benadryl featherweight bout Danny Silva versus Dennis Bajuska.

(01:26:21):
Both United States. I think I want to go with Danny.
I'm that shadow is scaring me.
It almost seems like he took a picture with no lights, like backlighting.
He he painted himself in Vanta black, the blackest black.
And it's like there's like shadows popping off of his traps and tits.

(01:26:44):
So, yeah, Danny Silva, you're going to win it for us.
We're scared. All right. Moving up to the main event, we've got Edmund Shabazzian versus Gerald Marsh on.
I've seen both of them fight, both really capable fighters, both from the United States.
You want to go face card on this one?
Or do you want to look at the odds?

(01:27:06):
I know. And I hate that. I want to go with.
Gerald Gerald Mearshaart.
Yeah, let's do it. Gerald, you've got a lot of cool tattoos, too.
So it might be a thing if you've got a tattoo over your left titty, you might be a champion.
Next fight, we've got welterweight bout between Neil Magni and Michael Michael Morais Morales, Michael Morales from Ecuador.

(01:27:34):
I've never seen Michael Morales from Ecuador fight.
I've seen Neil Magni fight way too many times and he is old and he's going to get starched by Michael Morales.
And I've never seen Michael Morales fight. Titty tattoos.
That's the other part. Neil Magni is he's just too nice of a guy, in my opinion.
I don't think he should be in the USC. I think he should really just like be a coach.

(01:27:55):
Like some like he's just like smiley and just I'm ready to fight.
Middleweight bout between Ryan Loader and Robert Valentine Fry.
Now, this is very interesting because it looks like they've reused the same Danny Silouette here.
And then they just read they just mirror image.

(01:28:16):
And we don't know what country these guys are from.
We don't know anything about these people. Ryan Loader sounds like Kurt Loader's little brother got into MMA.
I think people with three names are pretty psychotic.
So let's go with Robert Valentine Fry.
Yeah, I'm scared. Yeah.
All right. In the co-man event, we have number nine rank Angela Hill versus number 11 ranked Tabitha Tabetha Ricci.

(01:28:46):
This is clearly a pick and fight.
These are the weirdest odds I've ever seen 108 to 112.
Like, what is that? Nobody's a favorite.
They're going to lose. You're going to cash out either way.
They're going to get the Superman.
I'm going to go with Angela. I'm going with Tabitha Ricci because I've never seen a Ricci fan.

(01:29:07):
All right. I'm good with that.
All right. In the main event, you've got the middleweight bout between number five Jared Cannoneer versus number 12 Kyle Barahaliel.
Now, I've seen both of them fight.
Jared Cannoneer, I'm a huge fan of.
He's one of those guys that like whenever he came into the UFC, he was so out of not what I want to say out of shape.

(01:29:33):
He was just so like at the beginning of his fitness progress that he had to fight at heavyweight because he couldn't cut down to 205.
So he said he's fought at heavyweight.
And then once he started getting his nutrition control, he cut down to 205 and got to light heavyweight.
And now he's down to middleweight to 185. So he actually is fighting at 185, even though he started his journey in the heavyweight.

(01:29:59):
So he has been punched in the head by heavyweight caliber fighters and is still kind of like making his way and doing his thing.
So I think that he's very durable and probably has a little bit more power than someone that may not have experienced those same fights.
I'm going to go with Mr. Cannoneer to pull this out for us.
I'm with you on that one.

(01:30:20):
Excellent. So once again, if you want to see this fight, you can catch it on ESPN and ESPN Plus.
Looks like we're going to be at the apex in Las Vegas. So it'll be a small crowd.
If any crowd, you'll be able to hear fighters and their coaches speaking to one another.
Should be a good fight. Looking forward to it.
Now, we didn't get a chance quickly, quickly.

(01:30:46):
And then we'll wrap this up.
Last week we had UFC 305. We had Dracus Du Plessis versus Israel Adesanya.
I really wanted Israel to win this fight. I wanted him to get his belt back.
I didn't. I don't. I really think that Dracus Du Plessis is the biggest dork.
I really just don't care for him. I don't care for his fighting style.

(01:31:09):
He's very stubborn. It was a really good fight.
But in the end, Dracus was able to submit Israel Adesanya.
There was a point in time where I thought that Israel may retire.
Because while Dracus was giving his acceptance speech, you saw Israel take his gloves off,
which is kind of the signal to the broadcast that you leave your gloves in the center of the ring whenever you're retiring.

(01:31:34):
And so even Dracus made mention, he said, if this is his last fight, he looks like he's retiring.
And Israel gave us the rope a dope.
Because when they went to him after they talked to Dracus,
he kind of gave a little retrospective and thought about it for a second.
And then he did the, I'm not fucking leaving. I'm not fucking leaving.

(01:31:56):
He did the Wolf of Wall Street, I'm not fucking leaving thing.
So he will live to fight another day. It's just not. It wasn't his day.
The ones that I wanted to bring up, there were two of them that were very controversial.
And needed us to mention them.
The first one, this one right here, this Walter Wucker and Junior Taffa fight.

(01:32:20):
Now, if you watch the fight, you will have known that the referee called the fight off after Junior Taffa screamed in pain when Walter Walker got him in a hill hook.
He didn't say tap. He didn't say stop.
He just said, ah.

(01:32:42):
So the referee took that as a verbal tap and called the fight.
It's one of those things where you're you're allowed to verbally tap.
And if you're screaming in pain and you're saying stop, they have to call the fight up.
That's clearly a verbal tap. But this is one of those things where like I think that he just rolled into it and felt it and like he moated and was still fighting and still able to like get up and fight.

(01:33:03):
But by then it was too late because the referee took that scream as a verbal tap.
So the reason I wanted to bring it up is because I don't know if you saw this.
They normally after you fight with somebody, you come up to him, shake of your hand.
He came up to him and he flipped him off and then he slapped him in the face.

(01:33:25):
So I hadn't really seen that before in the UFC where like I've seen obviously people brawling after a fight, but just the general disrespect of like a slap, an open hand slap to the face.
Oh my gosh.
So that was a fun one to watch strictly for the fact of like you were like, did he tap? Did he not tap? What happened there?

(01:33:46):
And then also like the aftermath.
The last one that I wanted to bring up before we got the heck out of here was the Taito Avassa and Jorizio Rosenstreich fight.
And the only reason I wanted to bring it up is because it was a clear indication that Jorizio Rosenstreich won that fight.
There was no doubt about it.

(01:34:08):
But there was a judge that scored the entirety of the fight 30-27 for Taito Avassa, meaning that this guy won every single round.
He didn't lose a round, which is crazy because even in the most optimistic sense of the word, he might have won one round.
But for the most part, this guy won every round, every submission, every like striking exchange.

(01:34:34):
So the judge that scored it 30-27 for Taito was relieved of his duties in the middle of the UFC broadcast, in the middle of the fight.
The commission said, you're clearly, there's clearly something wrong.
You're either drunk, not watching the fights, distracted, something.

(01:34:56):
But for the rest of the night, we're going to need you to go home.
Damn.
They actually, for the first time, I believe in the history of the UFC, 304, 305 events or whatever, they replaced a judge mid-fight
because that judge was supposed to then judge this fight, the Kykier front Steve Irsik thing.
So the commission.

(01:35:17):
Pulling a hashtag, pulling it out.
Yes. That judge pulled out of the fight because he sucked ass.
So, yeah, I thought it was kind of cool because that, you know, we talk about things that obviously we'll talk about who won and who lost.
But like pips lapping somebody after a fight.
And also, if you're a judge and you basically don't know what you're talking about, the precedent has now been set to remove you from the premises mid-fight

(01:35:44):
and to have a backup judge come in your place because you clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about.
So hopefully that brings some, you know, some new judge blood into it.
So that way we're not having some of these weird calls where, you know, you have, like I said, everyone watching that fight clearly knew that Jerozhin or Rojanschrik fight.

(01:36:05):
But that judge scored it as if he didn't want a single round.
And so it really just was like a weird thing.
So, yeah, that was UFC 305.
Sad Israel lost.
But now, speaking of going back full circle, the next fight for that belt will be Drake's du Plessis versus Sean Strickland.

(01:36:27):
So this Tiki Gosin thing may not go away as quietly and as quickly because they have already tapped Sean Strickland to be the next in line for the belt.
Also, Dana said it may happen in South Africa, which is kind of not a great place if you're a very outspoken American because they don't do it that well.

(01:36:48):
So he's already made a tweet of like, are you sure you want me going to South America?
So anyway, we've got a lot of fun stuff coming up.
We've got an idea for UFC Noche that we were kicking around.
We've got some more time on our hands because the school year started a little bit.
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Tell us about your favorite war movie.
Yep. Let us know what your thoughts on Dana White's contender.
Yep.
You know, tell us what you're eating for breakfast.
That's right.
Or Brenner.
Or just, you know, give us a call and say, hey, what's up?
Yeah.
How are you?
Yeah. Because we'll, you know, we'll talk to you. Maybe.

(01:37:58):
You never know.
If you're Gene, maybe not.
No calls from Gene will be taken.
Do you think Gene likes Sean Strickland?
I think Sean Strickland is Gene's favorite fighter, probably.
Is Gene Sean Strickland's favorite fighter?
No.
Well, this has been another exciting episode of Breakfast of Champions.

(01:38:19):
I'm glad that we were able to fill your head with useless information about combat sports and breakfast foods.
Like I said, we've got a few fun things that we don't want to kind of give away just quite yet.
But be on the lookout.
We appreciate you listening to us for the past 13 episodes.
And we look forward to giving you a many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many more.

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