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July 4, 2024 96 mins

Happy Independence Day, champs! We take no days off here at Breakfast of Champions. We don't have a guest this time, but we do indulge in the GOAT cereal. In this episode, we discuss UFC 303 and introduce a new segment to the show called "#pullingout".

"#PullingOut" focuses on the fights and fighters that don't quite come together in combat sports. Will Conor return to the octagon? Will Iron Mike ever step into the ring again? We touch on these questions and discuss why availability is the greatest ability for UFC athletes.

Lastly, if you have any comments, concerns, or questions, reach out at (682) 294-0101 or breakfastofchampspod@gmail.com. We look forward to hearing from you!

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["Fight For The World"]

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You're in big trouble though, pal. I eat pieces of shit like me for breakfast.
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
No.
["Fight For The World"]

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Here, here, here, here, here. Welcome to Breakfast of Champions. This is season one, episode seven.
Good morning. My name is Rene Floyd.
I'm Parker Howard.
We are here in the early hours of the morning, both pretty exhausted, I would say.
We're doing this for y'all. This is for the low of the game this morning.

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I text Parker and I was like, hey man, no worries if you're tired.
Kind of hoping I'd get back that I'm tired text. I can't sleep.
My alarm went off like what? 10 or 15 minutes after you texted. You're like, hey,
no worries. And I'm russana back.
Yeah.
I mean, it's 730, but I think you've been up since six.

(01:26):
Ish, yeah.
Yeah. And I got up about 6, 2630.
So I woke up and the first thing I heard was my son opening his door and running out to try to
turn on the TV. And I was like, my alarm just had gone off and I don't think he heard it.
But I just went out there and I was like, hey man, what are you doing?
He's like, where's the cat? Because we just got a new kitten.
And I was like, she's in the front room. You're good.

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I was like, it's too early. Why don't you go back to sleep?
He's like, I'm not tired. So then I made him go back to his room and I kind of got all my stuff
ready to go to come here. I checked in his room and he just sound asleep again.
I'm like, you're such a liar. Go back to sleep.
My kids have been doing the opposite. So I've been working nights.
And I've been getting home between two and 3.30 in the morning and I'll get home.

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Both my kids are still up. And I'm like, what are you guys doing up?
It is so late. They're like, what are you doing up?
You're just getting home. We've been home. I'm like, all right.
Do you know where your dad's at? Yeah. It's 3 AM.
Do you know where your dad's at? Exactly.
Yeah. He's watching Inside Out 2 for the last time.
Yeah. So we've had a couple of great guests the past couple of weeks.

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If you're listening to us live, that means last week we just dropped a Fort Worth float
company with Kevin O'Malley. And I got a chance to listen back to that episode while we were doing
editing and uploading and stuff. And I just forgot all the funny little nuances of that episode.
So our third co-host who's not here today. That's right. Where's he at? Why isn't he

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up at 6 AM? He's probably up. He's probably training. He's probably floating. He's sharpening
all of his skills. And he recently took a kick to the leg. I don't know if you follow float
worth Fort company or Kevin does cool stuff. I think that's what it is. Kevin does stuff.
Kevin does stuff. Kevin with an A. He had, I think it was Hassan. No.

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I'm not quite sure. Rissak Hassan. Something like that.
Hassan I think is his name. A UFC fighter came in to do some recovery and completely just gave him
a nice little, a nice little leg kick, you know, a nice little regular you see every day in the UFC
leg kick. And the way that it sounded in Kevin's face afterwards, even though he doesn't really
show much emotion as it is, it was just like his face is like eyebrow kind of was like, thank you.

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Yeah. Classic Kevin response.
Yeah. So big shout out to Kevin O'Malley, Fort Worth float company. Also big shout out to Mr.
James Gray and all the good work that he's doing out in Weatherford. I've gotten a lot of positive
responses from that episode. I heard a lot of good comments from that. So thank you guys for
listening. If you want to leave us a message or a comment, we're on all the social medias. And we

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also have a phone number. You can call it 682-294-0101. Give us a call. Leave us a message.
Tell us how you liked the show, how you hated the show. Tell us about your favorite breakfast
foods and your favorite violent moments. We've got some cool things coming up. We just wanted
to kind of throw back to a duo episode, kind of back to where, back to our roots, back to where

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we started, just Parker and I kind of shooting the shit and talking breakfast and talking violence.
So you have any, anything before we move on to tasting, any interesting anecdotes or any fun
tales that I haven't heard in the past week? I don't think so. No, I've, it's been a quiet
week for me. That's wonderful to hear. You know, we, we've been trying to think of like cool things

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to do. And I recently have been trying to think about like my breakfast routine. And so I've been
trying to volunteer to cook breakfast for my family so that a way I can kind of like get in
the mood of like eating breakfast. So, uh, Faye's a big lover of eggs and sourdough bread. And so
for the past couple of days, she's been doing scrambled eggs with sourdough bread toast. And

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that's her get down. And then usually when I make an egg, I hear, honey, can you make me an egg too?
From the other, from the other bedroom. So, uh, Allie's jam, she's been doing, uh, the same
sourdough bread with like a cherry preserve, uh, and a hard fried or over hard egg. And so we've
been doing a lot of breakfast cooking, uh, Rhodes is super into, uh, uh, Kodiak cakes has protein,

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uh, that protein mix. That's his get down. So he'd double dark chocolates that all the time. And
so, uh, his, his jam is to toggle back and forth between waffles and pancakes with the same mix,
even though they're the exact same thing. He's like, can you make pancakes this time? And I'm
like, sure, man, you got it. So the Kodiak cakes are good. And like I said, um, I forget which

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episode it was, but if you get that apple pie spice or pumpkin pie spice, just a dash of that
in there. Oh yeah. Take it up a notch. So yeah, been doing a lot of breakfast stuff. I recently
went and saw my family, um, in El Paso, my sister graduated and I sent you a picture of my dad's
pancakes. That's a staple. Anytime we go to El Paso or anytime my dad comes to visit, he is the

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pancake master, big, thick, fluffy pancakes. Uh, this time, uh, he had help Rhodes wanted to help.
So, uh, Rhodes got to either sprinkle in blueberries, uh, what else did he have? Blueberries,
pecans, sprinkles and chocolate chips. So you kind of like got to choose how you choose your

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adventure pancake wise. And then he also, uh, I think he cooked two pounds of bacon. Yeah.
Yeah. He was like, I need, I need somebody to go get me another pound of bacon. I don't think one
pounds enough. Yeah. So we've, we've had some good breakfast times the past week. Did he microwave
the bacon? No, of course not. For he is not a heathen. He is right with the Lord. So we, uh,

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again, because I've been working so late and my kids are up late, we've been doing brunch instead
of breakfast. And, uh, I made waffles from scratch the other day and I made some whipped cream.
Heather made some lavender syrup. And so we've had that in the fridge, like add to coffee,
but I was like, you know, I'm gonna make whipped cream from scratch. And I added that lavender
syrup in there. Is that sounds amazing. Yeah, it was nice. It was very light and floral added

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blueberries to it. But yeah, that was, that was good stuff. And then, uh, I mean, I mean, we get
chickens and ducks, you know, to help with gardening and insects in the back, but really it's for the
eggs. Like right now we go through about 60 eggs or not, not 60, about, uh, like 32 eggs a week.
I was buying them 60 at a time and we'd go through about 60 in two weeks.

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But yeah, we're a, we're egg loving family. Yeah. Eggs are pretty good. Uh, are you a fan of,
you don't mind cooking your own egg and then eating it? No, no, no, I can't fucking do that.
Somebody else has to cook my egg. Like, I don't know what it is. I'll cook you an egg as long as
the day is long and be fine with it. But the second you tell me that I have to cook my own egg and

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eat it, I'm like, I'm going to vomit everywhere. So here, so you're saying, uh, Faye likes scrambled
eggs. Does she like them hard scrambled, soft scrambled? In the medium. Yeah. I, I can't really
do scrambled eggs. Scrambled eggs gross me out, which is weird. Most people are like grossed out
by like over easy, over medium. Um, but, uh, this goes back to when I was in college and I had a bad

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experience with some powdered eggs in the college line, my first week of school. And I've never been
able to enjoy scrambled eggs the same. Like I can, if they are super hard scrambled or like omelet,
even omelets are kind of hard, especially if they're not cooked right. If they're still like a
little runny in the middle, some juice that goes along with scrambled egg juice and omelet juice.

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Like I can't even take a bite of it. There's omelet juice. I am done. Squeeze all of the juice
out of that egg. It's like over medium to over hard. Great. Love it. Sunny side up. Not really.
Yeah. It's getting a little close to raw for me. Scrambled. I have to scramble my own eggs and I
have to like scramble them hard. I love that. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm that way about a couple of things.

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Like I'll, I'll, I will cook every single day and have no problem like cooking for my family or
cooking for other people. Um, but sometimes it just like me cooking my own food. I'm just like,
Oh, why do I feel like this after I'm ready to eat certain foods? I mean, also like my history
of food and dietary restrictions, uh, it, it gets weird with certain types of proteins. Uh, I have a

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hard time eating things I cook. Like I'll make stuff for people. This is so good. Why aren't you
eating? Like I handled it from start to finish and I just can't eat it now. Yeah. So similar,
sorry. I keep on, we're not, we're just shooting this. This is a regular episode. We have no guests
here. We have no intentions or we're just, you know, just shooting it. But, uh, this past week

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we had a friend that I made dinner for. We volunteered to provide dinner for their, for her
and her family, just her and her and her basically. But, um, I made, uh, from scratch chicken and
dumplings. And that's the same thing for me. I literally started at 10 30 in the morning.
Um, you know, as soon as I got up, I washed all of the dishes and clean, I got my prep area

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cleaned and ready to go and started about 10 30. And I did not, I didn't finish up till like four
30 and almost five. Um, from, I mean, boiling the chickens, you know, de-boning it, you know,
making the stock, making it creamier, like all of the things it takes so long and you're handling,

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you know, nast bones and raw chicken and stuff like that. So by the time that, you know,
eight hours rolls around, you're just like, I'd rather have a burger now. Yeah. So yeah, chicken,
yeah. Handling raw chicken. It's always a weird thing. Eggs, chicken. Which came first? Um,
obviously the chicken. Actually, was it, oh no, we're going to go back there. I'm sorry. I listened

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to this episode of a very well-known podcast with Terrence Howard. And I think he didn't, he's,
he said somewhere in there, which one came first? Like it was the chicken, right? Yeah. Yeah. You
gotta have the chicken first. Yeah. An egg can't have a chicken, but a chicken can have multiple
eggs. But I remember before I was born. Oh, that's right. In your, in your womb. So this morning,

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I thought, you know, we've had a few guests give us their answer as to what their favorite
breakfast cereal is. We already know what the goat is. So I just figured we'd keep it light. Uh,
I'd have some cinnamon toast crunch this morning. Um, but there's a new kid in town when it comes
to cinnamon crunch. Uh, I didn't, I wasn't aware of it, uh, till recently. It is the cinnamon toast

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crunch waffle, uh, cereal. And so I went ahead and got a little box of that for us to sample,
just to give our initial, uh, that's a family size box. Well, that's the only size box that was
available for the cinnamon toast crunch waffle. I meant these little Johns here, but, uh, yeah,
no, this one is going to go home with me afterwards and the kids are probably going to

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learn about cinnamon toast crunch waffles. But, um, I just, I remembered you'd made waffles this week
and a waffle house and cinnamon and being in waffle, uh, and pancake batter and that sort of
thing. So I figured we just talk about some cinnamon toast crunch love and kind of give like, um,
you know what I was thinking about when I was thinking about this? Um, do you remember eating

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cinnamon toast crunch as a kid? Like, do you have very core memories? Super core memories. Like,
cinnamon toast crunch tastes like my grandma's house. Yeah. So the one thing I was thinking
about is, do you remember the chef, the cinnamon toast crunch chef? Yeah, I do. He's, uh, nowhere
to be seen on these guys. I know. So we just have the insane cinnamon square now who-

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Unhinged cinnamon square.
That's what, I mean, they describe him as that. So he's a, yeah. So whenever I was a kid, there
was this jolly older baker gentleman that was, uh, you know, the, the mascot for cinnamon toast
crunch. And are we sure, or are we getting Mandela affected by that? Um, I'm pretty sure. I'm

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almost 100%. I mean, I definitely remember him, but yeah. And so in my mind, I was like, wait,
I thought the same thing. I was like, wait, was he a chef? Was he a baker or whatever? And then
I was thinking about like, like the same thing that you were saying, I thought there might've
been more than one. And then I started thinking, well, isn't that snap, crackle and pop? So,

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yeah, no. So I was taking a little deep dive into the cinnamon crunch lore, but cinnamon
toast crunch is actually not known as cinnamon toast crunch all the way around the world.
If you're listening to us in French, Canada, we're actually talking about croquet canele.
Hey, and if you're over in the UK, mate, we're talking about curiously cinnamon, isn't it?

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Isn't it? Previously called seminin grams. So, uh, yeah. So if you, that's,
that's my London accent. I love it. Uh, if you're in Latin America, you may know these as city minis.
So, uh, yeah, that's a good one. I love that. I didn't know that any, you know, I knew that it
was probably available all the way around the world, but it's almost kind of like a movie where

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it's like here, it's like the, the last hope, but in China, it's like big stand or whatever.
You know what I mean? Uh, so, uh, cinnamon toast crunch came out in 1984. Uh, it was first produced
by general mills. Uh, it was a cereal that was, uh, obviously by the name, I mean, Wayne and Garth.

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So it's not just a clever name, but, uh, cinnamon toast crunch. It was supposed to be a crunchy
cereal that, uh, would, uh, withhold the, the, the milkiness. So, um, yeah. Um, it's a wheat and rice
covered, uh, square that has cinnamon and sugar all over it. And you can tell that it's the real
thing because you can see the cinnamon sugar on it. I mean, I'm looking at the little container

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you brought and on the front, no high fructose corn syrup, no colors from artificial sources
and no artificial flavors. And when you look at the ingredients, first one is whole grain
sugar, rice flour. So yeah, yeah. Those are the three first ingredients. And there's canola oil,
which is kind of like, and then, and then after that, everything else is kind of just like,

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Oh God, I shouldn't have read this, but, uh, I'm still excited. Cause this is childhood.
Yeah. Uh, so we were talking about like, uh, lightning rounds in the past couple of, uh,
episodes with our guests. And one of the questions is, what is your favorite all time
breakfast cereal and without fail, anytime we've talked to anybody, we hear again and again,

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cinnamon toast crunch. Uh, we haven't heard of another answer. It's my favorite cereal. Uh,
that's Parker's favorite cereal. Uh, I just don't think you can go wrong with it. Um,
if you have a strong hate for cinnamon toast crunch, I need for you to call me at six,
eight, two, two nine four zero one zero one and state your case. Uh, I'm going to need you to go

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step further and meet me outside for the violence part of the package.
So, um, one thing that I thought was cool is, uh, yeah. So the product was originally
market outside of Europe with the mascot of a jolly Baker named Wendell. So he had a name
Wendell. Uh, Wendell is then replaced by the mascot crazy squares, a sentient cinnamon toast

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crunch square that often eats that off. They often need each other in commercials, cannibalistic,
unhinged cinnamon squares. I mean, when you name your mascot crazy, you just, you gotta make it,
you gotta make it cannibalistic too. There's nothing else crazier besides eating yourself
for cinnamon toast breakfast cereal. And maybe that's why he's crazy is because he eats his own

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kind. I mean, that's what happens when humans eat humans, right? As you go crazy, like, yeah,
it's like a brain disease. Yeah. Going, going from like wholesome older gentlemen, Baker to
unhinged cinnamon square. That's a big leap. Like what all right, general Mills, like speaking of,

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did you see Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? Yeah. Did you see that? Uh, oh, I can't even think of the name
of the movie now. Uh, that most recent Jerry Seinfeld Netflix movie about the unwrapped. Yeah.
That was, yeah, that was something. Yeah. I was like, when I saw the preview for that, I was like,
oh, it's going to be a fun documentary. But then it's like, this is Zany other world life. We're

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definitely breaking the fourth wall. The, uh, good stuff. The January six reenactment with the
mascots was the best part of that. I heard about it and I was talking about it with one of my
coworkers and he was like, I don't know. He saw it and he's like, don't waste your time. But then
I had, I had a couple of friends text me and be like, yo, have you seen unwrapped? You need to

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watch it. You're going to love it. Yeah. I was right in the middle. I was like, I'm glad I watched
it. I'll probably never watch it again. Sure. The January six reenactment was hilarious. Worth it.
Worth it. Uh, also the fact that Jerry Seinfeld is still working in 2024 is kind of astounding.
And I grew up watching Seinfeld. What do you mean? What's the deal with Jerry Seinfeld?

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What's the deal with Pop Tarts? They had frosting, then they took the frosting off.
No. Um, so I thought it was cool that the cereal, one of the reasons that I think that the cereal
is cool is because it was actually invented by a scientist. Um, John Mendish was a scientist at
General Mills, him and his assistant product manager, wink, wink, Elizabeth Trey. Um, they

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actually got the idea from a child. Uh, they had a give us your best idea for a cereal radio contest.
Um, and the prize was a set of Hot Wheels toys. So damn that kid got jipped, dude. Can I say that?
Yeah. I don't probably have it. I mean, that you didn't say he got gypsied. You know what I mean?

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Or whatever it is. But I'm not going to go to rabbit hole. Uh, he got taken for a ride
because he got Hot Wheels. See, he liked that. Perfect. So your favorite cereal was actually the
idea of a unnamed child. And instead of giving that child the credit and the glory, they just

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give him some Hot Wheels and took his idea and made millions of dollars over the years.
I heard that that child died in a horrible Hot Wheels accent and was reincarnated as a crazy,
a crazy square square. Yeah. So in 85, there were three animated bakers, uh, as the mascots,
there were three. We didn't Mandela affect that. Um, the other two bakers, Bob and Quello.

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They were Quello. Yeah. Q U E L L O. Quello. They were considerably more youthful, uh, and
appearance than Wendell Wendell. Um, and then in 91, the younger bakers were dropped and Wendell
was the sole mascot for several years. So our childhood was filled with Wendell, the, the,

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the Jolly Baker. Uh, but then like I said, they went ahead and dropped him for the sentient crazy
square. Snap, crackle and pop came for them. Yep. Um, have you tried any of the other spin-offs
of cinnamon toast crunch? There was like a French toast crunch, I believe in like the late nineties
or early two thousands French toast crunch was available in 1995. And then again in 2015. Wow.

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Okay. So I had it in 1995. I remember not being super impressed with it. Yeah. I have tried a few
of the spin-offs and I don't like any of them. Um, that's why I'm kind of curious about this
waffle spin-off here. I, so the waffle that brings up a memory and I'm trying to remember the cereal.
There's a, it might've been, I don't think it was an Eggo waffle cereal, but there's a waffle cereal

(22:03):
that I remember having as a kid and it had like a maple flavor to it. Okay. I think I know what
you're talking about. And I remember really liking it because of the flavoring on it,
but I remember not holding up too well to milk the way cinnamon toast crunch does,
cause it was created by a scientist. That's right. A waffle crisp. Yeah, that's it. And then there was

(22:24):
a Eggo cereal with maple syrup flavoring as well. Um, so there's these, these two, I'll show you a
picture. Yeah. They're both similar. It was definitely the waffle crisp. Yeah. Waffle crisp looks like
they have a crazy sentient waffle square on their box as well. I don't know if he's, uh, that could

(22:45):
be a fun, violent thing, put them up against each other. Post versus general mills, waffle square
versus cinnamon toast sentient crazy square. Um, I'm, I'm in favor. That's for sure. Uh, so, so here's
some of the spin-offs, uh, chocolate toast crunch. Never heard of that. Never seen that. I thought
that was weird. Uh, the one you mentioned, French toast crunch in 1995. And then again, in 2015,

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uh, this one I was, I must've missed this one because I, I, I love both of these things, but
peanut butter toast crunch came out in, uh, oh four. And then again, in 13, then you had frosted
toast crunch, which I'm assuming is like a, in 2012, that's a more like the, uh, frosted mini

(23:30):
weeds or I think were even like the, what's the Tony the tiger one? Uh, frosted flakes. Frosted
flakes. It was kind of like that sheen icing over it. Uh, we also have a sugar cookie toast crunch
for the 2014 holiday season. They also brought it back in 2015, 2018, and last year, 2023 sugar
cookie toast crunch. For our Latin listeners, we have Dulce de leche toast crunch that came out in

(23:55):
2021. This one sounds interesting. Also in 2021, they had an apple pie toast crunch. And then my,
one of my favorites, my only spinoff that I actually appreciate it because it just jammed
two cereals together is lucky, lucky charm, cinnamon toast crunch mix that came out two years
ago. Um, the other one that I really love is fruit loops and a lucky or fruit loops with marshmallows

(24:20):
kind of same thing, similar thing. Also they did tres leches toast crunch, um, in 2023 last year.
But if you add milk, does that quattro leches? Yeah. Quattro leches, quattro leches toast crunch.
Uh, yeah. So if you're listening, uh, and you've had any of those spin-offs, like I said, give us

(24:41):
a call. Tell us about them. Tell us about your favorite ones. If you've got an idea. So the other
thing I wanted to talk to you about, um, so whenever I was, uh, growing up, any of my high
school friends or college friends will know this. I pitched this idea to just about everybody I knew
when I like, I was the kid, I was like the idea collector whenever I was a kid, I was like, I want
to do this. I want to do this. I want to do this. Um, any of my, like, sorry to my current wife,

(25:03):
any of my ex-girlfriends or ex partners have heard this business idea. Um, I mean, I have
talked about this ad nauseum. So if you know me personally and we've had a personal relationship,
you've probably heard me speak of my business idea that I had. I legit, you're not, I have this
written down from high school, um, sitting, sitting in papers. So I'm not like, Oh, I saw it and like,

(25:26):
I've ripped it off and said, like, in my mind, I was super into, uh, like Quentin Tarantino movies
at the time. And so the whole vibe of like pulp fiction and going to that old timey, like kind of
diner, my whole thing was to, uh, have a place called Saturday mornings. And the entire concept
was to have every breakfast cereal that's on the market available. Um, but also to try and hunt down

(25:50):
older discontinued cereals, uh, that were still viable for eating. Um, I had before, like I even
knew about like, you know, like in my mind, I was like, we're going to have a small child's bowl,
a medium bowl, large bowl, and then an extra large bowl. So that away, like, if you're like super like
I'm hung over, I need all the cereal and we can get the extra large bowl. Uh, we're going to have

(26:12):
all the milks. So if you, you know, your lactose intolerant, that's the thing that I talked about
this morning. Sorry, I didn't bring a dairy alternative, but we're going to have whole 2%,
you know, oat, soy, what about raw milk? Raw straight from the TT. Um, all of the, all of
the cereals, all of the milks, um, the coldest milk you can have, the crunchiest cereal you can have.

(26:32):
But my idea was, um, kind of like to have a wall separating the storage space and the service space
and have clear containers and just have all of your backstock, like the wall of cereal. Yeah. And
so, you know, kind of like, if you go to like a tap room, you're like, I want a number 37. It's
like an IPA or whatever. You could be like, I want a number 37 and be like, okay, I want cinnamon

(26:53):
toast crunch. Then you just pull the lever of the wall and like the cereal falls. So like
the service would be super easy, uh, for everything. Have you ever been to a place like this? No,
I have. Yeah. So later on in life, I've seen places like this. I've heard of places like this.
That's why I kind of want to preface all this would be like, I have never been to any place
like this. I'm not ripping off anyone's idea. This is an idea I had when I was a kid. But

(27:14):
the second part of my idea was in the bankettes, uh, instead of having like a little
miniature jukebox to have a miniature media player and have on demand cartoons at your each
bankette. So no matter what time of day it is, no matter, um, what day it is, you can have any size

(27:34):
of cereal you want. You can have any cartoon you want, and you can just sit in your bankette and
be in Saturday morning. So I think, uh, the cereal, uh, we talked about how it goes hand in hand with,
uh, Saturday morning cartoons and in our core memories. So what were some of your favorite
Saturday morning shows or routines or if, do you, do you have any?

(27:57):
Yes. I mean, I remember waking up at like 7 a.m. every Saturday morning and just
Fox kids was the one that I would turn on. Uh, I mean, my earliest Saturday morning cartoon memory,
obviously Ninja turtles, because a product of the late eighties, early nineties. So I mean, obsessed
with Ninja turtles. But as far as like Fox kids goes, that Marvel line of like Spider-Man and

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X-Men. And then later on in the like morning, like 11 a.m. they'd show like Iron Man and Fantastic
Four. But those were big ones. I don't remember if these were Saturday morning, but like,
that's the thing I wanted to talk about. Yeah. There, there were some shows that like I was
really into that were not Saturday. They may have been, or I don't know. My memory is cloudy. This

(28:41):
was a long time ago. So I always, you know, you always hear that sorry, but like I think about
that now. That's clearly not a thing now because there's no linear TV anymore for like a special
Saturday morning cartoon to come on. But I do remember specifically, um, like later on in my
tweens and teens, Saturday mornings kind of became like saved by the bell city guy, like, uh, that

(29:05):
sort of stuff, like almost like situational comedy for kids. But I did, um, I haven't remembered this
until I started planning this episode. Does this picture or this show, do you remember this at all?
Hold on. Sorry. I fucking love reboot. It was only like 24 episodes Canadian. It was on Cartoon

(29:27):
Network. I think it was in the original Toonami block. Dude, reboot. Oh my God. I've actually
gone back and rewatched it as an adult and it doesn't hold up as well. Like it's still fun.
That's nostalgic. But I think Netflix did a live action reboot of reboot. I didn't even bother
watching it because I didn't want my memory tainted. Um, yeah, I was obsessed. They actually,

(29:52):
I remember as a kid, I went to like a collectible store and they had action figures of reboot.
Dude. And I lost my mind. I didn't have money for them, but I was just like, what?
Uh, and like just lost it.
So, um, I remember very specifically reboot coming on a Saturday morning, like replay or some sort

(30:13):
of like reshow. Um, but I, um, in my mind, I was like, that show was so ahead of its time.
Yes. Like they were like main framing and hacking and like living in an alternate reality.
And like inside of a computer, it's like exactly like what meta is right now. Like reboot did that.

(30:34):
So, um, 98. So apparently it first aired in, uh, 94. Oh wow. Yeah. 94. Um, and the reason that I
wanted to talk about this is because when I was taking a look at it, the people that created
reboot were the same people that, um, had created dire straits money for nothing video. So like they

(30:59):
were, reboot was actually conceived in 1984. Whoa. So I know. So to think like I was born in 83,
like late 83. So like the year that I was born, the year that I was one years old, somebody was
sitting around stroking their beard going, what if we made a completely CGI animated TV show

(31:21):
with children living inside a computer in 1984. That's insane. I know. So after about eight years
of development, uh, they finally talked, uh, Columbia into producing the series. I'm sorry.
They finally talked some people in British Columbia to producing the series. Um, they had
already done the money for nothing video, but the technology was not advanced enough to make the show

(31:43):
in the desired way. So like, this was a conceptual thing from the eighties that didn't see the light
of day until the mid nineties, until technology actually caught up to what they wanted to do.
Um, so when the 3d animation tests began in earnest in 1990, reboot finally achieved its
detailed look in 1991. So it took this person or these, this collective group of people from 1984

(32:06):
to 1991 to even see a demonstration of what they thought was going on in their brains.
That's wild to think about. So yeah, it's crazy is a, there was no other company or no other
production company at the time had taken on as much, uh, 3d, uh, animation projects. And then
this sort of scale, uh, the software was brand new, basically was written for this type of, uh,

(32:30):
animating. Um, so, uh, I just thought it was crazy that like, just, you know, as kids, we're just
sitting here, this show sucks. Somebody's like, wait a second. I just spent 20 years of my life
putting this thing together. And yeah, so I thought that was a cool little, uh, did you, were you a,
a cartoon guy or were you a more like a sitcom guy or cartoon? I mean, still to this day, like

(32:56):
I would rather watch like, like shows my kids are into like teen Titans go adventure time,
regular show. Like I have more fun watching those than most sitcoms. For sure. I was, I guess I'm
the hopeless romantic. I always saw myself as like the, I'm the Zach, you know, you know, either I'm
the city guy or whatever. I never got into saved by the bell. Like my memories of saved by the bell

(33:19):
is if I woke up at like 6 AM, it was showing before the cartoon started. And so that is,
was pretty much the only time I watched that, um, the live action shows I watched were obviously
like power Rangers and all those spinoffs, like VR troopers, uh, big bad beetle borgs. Oh yeah.
I built the guy who kind of looked like Jay Leno in that big chin. He was from DFW. Oh, word. Yeah.

(33:45):
My high school drama teacher, that was her claim to fame that she would always tell every like
incoming class like, Oh yeah, you seem big, bad beetle borgs, the guy that looks like Jay Leno.
I taught him. Um, so yeah, that somebody in my high school had a picture and it was a poster,
uh, uh, who's the band that does, Oh, a fuel. Oh, somebody had a fuel poster and they're like,

(34:08):
my son drums and fuel. Whenever I was a senior in high school and I thought that was the fucking
coolest thing ever. I was like, dude, what this teacher has a fuel poster and her, I was like,
dude, anyway, uh, yeah. So you, you were saying the, so yeah, that was kind of live action.
One of my favorites, which as an adult, I've learned more about, but it played on Fox kids

(34:31):
on Saturdays. It was part of the like Saban power Rangers spin-off. What a great freaking spit,
like just Saban by itself. Just to say that, like I love the VR troopers. They were cool as hell,
but this one was my absolute favorite. I mean, I think there was actually a power rangers
crossover, but it was called the masked rider. Okay. I don't think I knew that one. Uh, he actually,

(34:53):
um, for anyone who is into like Godzilla, there's like shin Godzilla that came out. The guy who did
that did a shin common rider because it was called common rider K a M E N uh, in Japan.
And so there's this like ultra violent stylistic masked riders. We know him in America movie that

(35:15):
came out in the last few years and it's fucking awesome. It's on Amazon prime. Now that I'm seeing
the, uh, bug like mask. That's very, very similar to a memory. You're right. It aired on Fox as
part of the Fox kids program block from September 16th, 95 to August of, uh, 96. Yeah, it was,
that was my favorite, like it, cause after teenage mutant trolls, those power Rangers again, product

(35:40):
of my time, but that one, like I liked as much, if not more than power ranger, I thought he was so
cool. Also might've been because of an only child. So seeing just one dude out there and sort of like
this team. Um, and he was like, his action was cool. And I've gone back as an adult and watched
like the original common writer stuff from like the late seventies or early eighties in Japan.

(36:02):
And it's like kind of campy and fun. I, you can watch it for free on to be, um, definitely worth
checking out if you're into that stuff. Some of the non action and non sitcom cartoons that I
wanted to bring up, uh, Bobby's world was a big one for me. Um, how he Mandel Mandel was a genius.
I mean, if you go back and watch some of those episodes, there is definitely some adult humor

(36:24):
in all of Bobby's world. Um, dark wing duck was a huge one for me. I mean, let's get dangerous. I
mean, I fucking wanted to be dark winged duck. I just like, I wanted a hat and a cape and like a
dark hat and cape and like just to be a private investigator slash negaduck from that show dude.

(36:46):
There was a, uh, amazing melodic hardcore band from Fort Worth called negative. What a great name.
Yeah. I can great name. Um, also I'd be remiss if I didn't shout out some of the, um,
Nickelodeon programming that, uh, we grew up with. Um, we grew up with some great,
like Ren and Stimpy and I was not allowed to watch Ren and Stimpy as a kid because it was too adult,

(37:07):
but I was allowed to watch Rocco's modern life. Rockers modern life. Uh, rug rats was a big one.
Also a big one for me growing up. I was in love with Doug. Oh yeah. Um, Doug was a huge one for
me. Uh, recess was huge for me. Um, yeah, man. So, so recess. So recess was ABC. Um, there was

(37:27):
another show that played around that same time and it was called Bruno the kid. Did you ever watch
Bruno the kid? Let me look it up. It was Bruce Willis's kids show where Bruno was like a spy
and it was modeled after Bruce Willis. So it was like Bruce Willis as a kid. Dude,
you have such a good memory. I don't remember this one. Yeah. I love that show. It was, and

(37:49):
Bruce Willis also put out a, uh, like jazz album in the late eighties or early nineties called
the return of Bruno. I think I do know that, but I didn't know that Bruno the kid. I have not seen
that. That's amazing. There was another show that was a, it was like, uh, stop animation claymation
called bump in the night. I believe that one was awesome. So good. Yeah. I love that one. Um,

(38:16):
again, I don't know if this was Saturday mornings, but biker mice from Mars,
which was again, toy line, kind of a spin off of Ninja turtles as mutated three mice that came
from Mars on motorcycles, which they're bringing that back with Ryan Reynolds. Dude, that sounds
so cool. Yeah. There's a, I know they're working on a comic book, but I think there might be a movie

(38:38):
or cartoon in the works, uh, with Ryan Reynolds involved. Can I borrow a sip of your water?
Absolutely. Go for it. Otherwise I'm going to hiccup and burp all over this cast. Uh, and then
another one that is funny, like, oh yeah, that's good. Looking back, uh, especially kind of shaping
my teen years and early twenties and like the stuff that I was into. And this is kind of

(39:03):
probably the seed that was planted in my mind was the toxic crusaders. Oh yeah, baby. So trauma
jumping on the Ninja turtles bandwagon for sure. And taking, you know, the toxic Avenger, their
main like franchise, like tent pole and turning it into a kid friendly cartoon, which if you've

(39:23):
seen the toxic Avenger, you know that it is low budget, campy, gory, uh, kid getting run over on
a bike and his head blowing up everywhere. And so, I mean, it is not kid friendly in any way. So
them turning that into a TV show with a toy line, video games, like uncle Lloyd did a great job

(39:44):
there. Perfect. Uh, do you want to even rate this? I mean, this is the greatest of all time. We don't
have to give it a rating. I think we're good here. It's untouchable. Yeah. So if you've never had
cinnamon toast crunch, you must get your life, go to the store, pick up a box, family size,
preferably, uh, get you some milk, uh, and sit down and really do some soul searching on what you've

(40:05):
been doing wrong with your life because it's the greatest cereal that's ever been invented. It was
invented by scientists. It comes from the minds of babies. Yeah. It comes from the minds of babes.
And you know, it's got crazy cannibalistic, uh, you know, tendencies to it. So grab yourself a
bowl of cinnamon toast crunch and get your life right. Come back to the Lord and, and, and see

(40:29):
what we're talking about. Um, Lord Wendell Lord Wendell's waiting for you with his arms wide open.
Um, so, so, um, this, like I said, this episode is kind of like throwback to where we were kind
of starting a little bit of shooting the shit. Um, and so we've, we've talked breakfast foods,
we've talked Saturday morning cartoons, but we wanted to start a new segment here. It's called

(40:53):
pulling out. I've never done that. Uh, I have four kids, so I've clearly, I'm not very good at that
as well. So, um, in the words of Jeremy Joel, I'm not the pullout King. I am not the pullout King.
RIP, Jeremy Joel. Um, God, I miss that guy. I was just thinking about him the other day. I was

(41:14):
rolling down the street and just listening to Wu Tang and he just came, came across my mind. Um,
so pulling out, uh, the segment is going to be about, uh, fighters that have pulled out from
fights. And, uh, the reason we're talking about this is because there's a lot of hubbub in the
combat sports, uh, world combat sports world, as far as fights that were supposed to happen,

(41:36):
and that are not happening. Um, and the first one that we kind of have been kicking back and forth,
uh, you've heard us mention it on the podcast previously, uh, but obviously if you're even
remotely involved in MMA or UFC at all, you know, the name Connor McGregor. Who? Uh, yeah. Uh,
did you see roundhouse? Uh, no, I didn't see a roundhouse, but I saw a road house. God.

(42:00):
But yeah, did you see roadhouse? I did see roadhouse. Not Jake Gyllenhaal,
the crazy coked out guy. But also did you see roundhouse? What the heck is roundhouse? Uh,
yeah. So, uh, Connor McGregor is probably the most well-known UFC fighter of all time. Um, he, uh,
has fought Floyd Mayweather in boxing. He has done some acting. Um, he's basically just a braggadocious,

(42:26):
uh, ostentatious person. Uh, he has been floating the idea of coming back to the
USC for about two and a half years. They've had this fight on the books. Uh, uh, him and Michael
Chandler were supposed to meet in the octagon this Saturday, this coming Saturday. Um, but he's pulled
out. Yeah. And also you say this coming Saturday, I guess we should preface it because this is going

(42:47):
to come out in July. That's true. So this past Saturday. So today is what? June 27th. Today's
June 27th. So this will come out on the fourth. So he has pulled out of the fight that he was
supposed to have on this past Saturday. Um, yeah. So did you happen to see why he pulled out?
He hurt his toe. Him hurt his pinky toe. No, no, no. So, um, there's a lot of like funny,

(43:17):
uh, memes and like reactions from fighters and media about, you know, why he pulled out, uh,
if he should have fought with a broken toe, uh, that whole thing. Um, and then there's that whole
speculation on, do you think he's actually ever going to fight again? So, um, he's just a tease.
You think so? No, I don't think so. Also, I know that that dude could wreck me. So, uh, no, I,

(43:42):
he's also getting older and so there's a lot to like step back and look at, who knows, maybe his
film career is taking off. He's getting offers left and right after that incredible performance
in roundhouse. Uh, but no, I mean, also when you do that much cocaine and that many steroids,
your body changes and your health changes and the way that you absorb damage changes, uh, your,

(44:09):
I know your ligaments dry out, your tendons dry out. Um, so there's definitely a good chance that
you are more susceptible to injury. Your body feels different. Um, so I'm assuming that that
could all play a factor in it as well. And the risk reward ratio, like he's already kind of proven
himself. He has a household name. Does he need to continue fighting or can he keep kind of like,

(44:32):
Hey, I'm going to fight again. And then, Oh, nevermind. I hurt my toe. What? Oh no, I got a
hangnail. Oh no, I've got a cough. Like, uh, and maybe he will fight again, but also maybe, uh,
he realizes like, Hey, I'm in a pretty sweet spot right now and I don't need to fight again.
Um, I just wanted to give a message to anybody that's under the age of 30 that might be

(44:53):
listening to this podcast. I'm here to tell you because I did not believe my elders. I didn't
listen to advice. I didn't, I thought I was, I thought I was just the one, you know, I thought
I was just the one, you know, I thought I was fucking Neo and it wasn't going to happen to me.
Your body will betray you. If you are under the age of 30 and you do not believe me and you're

(45:16):
not listening to these words, your body will betray you. I'm 40 years old. I have been active
most of my life. I've played every sport there is to play. Um, you know, I'm down to clown whenever
it comes to let's get down last Sunday, I bent down to, uh, clean the windows, uh, at my job.

(45:39):
And the second time I bent down, my back locked up for the entire day. Like I could not stand up
straight, like hunchback of Notre Dame, like walking through. So I didn't believe it guys.
I was the one that said, Oh, that's not gonna happen to me. I'm going to be 50 years old,
hooping out of control. Your back and your knees will hate you once you get past the age of about

(46:00):
35. I mean, maybe even earlier. I mean, just so you know, 30 is the first time I like really wrecked
my knees and like, I have no meniscus in my left knee now. So this whole thing about a pinky toe,
I don't want to freaking hear it because sometimes the toes hurt the worst. I mean, my dad is six,

(46:22):
two, six, one, six, two, uh, you know, two plus, and that man will be taken down. If you just barely
like, ding, touch his toe because you know, it's like, there are just things on your body. Once you
get a certain age that are excruciating. And so I think that we all deserve Connor at his best,
especially if he is going to return, he could have returned at any given point in time.

(46:44):
Well, probably not on, on cocaine and all of that, but he could have come back, you know,
he could have not taken time off. He could have been just, we could have seen just the worst of
the worst when it comes to Connor. So, um, he is being opened up to a lot of criticism. Um,
he didn't have to share his specific injury. He didn't have to share that photo with us. I think
he knew he was going to get a lot of crap for that, but I also think that he needed to give

(47:07):
us something after two and a half years of wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And then we
get to the week of it is like, wait some more, you know? So at this point, uh, when I see media
members talk to Dana White about Connor McGregor, I think that Dana is just over it. You know what
I mean? He's just like, if it's going to happen, I'll see it whenever he steps into the ring and
it actually happens. So Connor McGregor has pulled out, uh, he was the main event for this coming

(47:33):
303 event that we have coming up, uh, this past Saturday that we had this past Saturday. Um,
so he did, he, the main event was gone and so they really needed someone to step in and save that
event. And so we'll, we'll get into it later with the preview, but, uh, the main event, uh,
uh, this past Saturday was Alex Pereira and Yuri Prohaska. That is a rematch from the great UFC 300

(48:00):
that we covered in our second or third podcast. So the fight where you had the gentleman that
gets kicked in the nuts and he says, Herb, no thanks. I don't need the time out. And then goes
and knocks the guy out. We're having that rematch. So looking forward to that, looking forward to see,
you know, I'm glad that the, the, uh, UFC event was saved. Uh, Alex Poiton Pereira is

(48:23):
single-handedly saving the UFC. He is fought 12 times in the past, I think, nine months.
That's insane.
At three different weight classes.
Even more insane.
Uh, and has captured two different belts at those weight classes. So, um, this Brazilian
gentlemen, uh, we'll talk about that a little bit later. So another big name pulling out another

(48:45):
in the segment of pulling out, uh, we had Mike Tyson who was supposed to fight Jake Paul, uh,
here in Dallas, Texas this month. And the fight has been postponed, um, is what we're hearing,
but also Jake Paul has taken another fight. Uh, do you know who Mike Perry is?
Uh, he's an MMA fighter. I'm not super familiar with him. I was just reading about it this morning

(49:09):
on my way here. So I'd be able to keep up. Dude, Mike Perry is a funny, interesting character.
He is, he was in the UFC, but it was just one of those things where it was like, you know,
the guy that would be like a really great soldier if there were just like no rules.
Yeah.
Like that's Mike Perry. Like if you were able to like smoke weed and play video games all day,

(49:31):
but also still be a soldier, that would be like Mike Perry. He's like, he also has a touch of the,
like the B rad syndrome where, you know, he's like, Oh man, you know, uh, grew up rough, uh,
very rough, but can fight his ass off. And so once he got released from the UFC, he really found and

(49:52):
made his name in the bare knuckle fighting competition. Uh, and he's actually fought some
of the highest level UFC fighters and bare knuckle and it was just obliterated them. So if you're
unfamiliar with bare knuckle fighting, it is kind of like boxing, uh, except for they don't use
gloves. They actually just wrap their hands and go. Um, some people think it's a little bit more

(50:15):
barbaric or violent. Uh, it's actually a little bit more safe. Uh, uh, it seems a little counter
intuitive that way, but, um, your hands, you know, are a little bit safer, uh, that way. Uh, and so
it's, it is very violent. Uh, sometimes the fights don't last very long. Sometimes they're just kind
of boring because the guys, you know, kind of know each other's power and they just don't want to get

(50:37):
in range to get hit. Mike Perry also stepped in, um, as, uh, I don't know if you're familiar with
the last time we talked about a Paul brother, he was supposed to be fighting Dylan Dennis.
Not familiar. Okay. So Logan Paul was fighting Dylan Dennis before we started this podcast.
Dylan Dennis is, uh, Conor McGregor's former training partner and trainer. Uh, he's got a

(51:02):
black belt and jujitsu. Um, he's one of those guys that like, they were like, oh, if he was in the UFC,
he'd go to the top. He's always a prospect. You know, he was like the hot up and coming prospect,
but he was a coach. Uh, he was Conor's training partner and coach, uh, right when Conor was going
through all of that stuff. I don't know if you're familiar with Conor and Habib, Nurgum, Nurgum,

(51:24):
Nurgum, Medoff, whenever they fought Habib beat him and then jumped in the crowd and, uh, fought
part of Conor's people. Yes. That's Dylan Dennis. Okay. So Habib jumped over the, the, the, the ring
wall to get to Dylan Dennis. Dylan Dennis is also the guy that, um, basically for the entire lead
up to the Logan Paul fight, uh, tweeted out Nina Agdahl's pictures and, uh, basically Snapchat

(51:49):
stories so much so that they threatened a lawsuit against him. And so that kind of played into that
trash talking question that we ask a lot there, but Dylan Dennis, um, and Logan Paul were boxing
and, uh, Mike Perry was brought in because Dylan, we didn't know if Dylan Dennis was actually in a
fight or not because of this whole lawsuit thing. Mike Perry was brought in as the backup there.

(52:12):
And so he's kind of like making his way in all of these venues, um, by himself. He's still in
bare knuckle fighting. He doesn't really have like a manager or a promoter that's really getting him
these fights. It's just strictly off the strength of like his personality and the fact that he's
just like willing to like just drop it and go. So I think that that is, uh, when it, as it pertains

(52:35):
to Mike Tyson, uh, Jake Paul, Mike Perry, if that fight is even remotely violent at all, or if Mike
Perry turns it up on Jake Paul at all, uh, it could injure Jake Paul and, uh, jeopardize the fight for
him and Mike Tyson. Um, I don't put it past Mike Perry to be able to do that sort of thing. He's

(52:56):
surprised me in so many different facets and fashions. So, uh, we, the question that we're
kind of asking between Connor McGregor and Mike Tyson is do you ever expect to see them in the
the ring or fighting again with Connor? I'm going to say yes, only because he showed his injury and
he's still willing to like play the game. I think that if he was done, he would have got the injury

(53:19):
and just been like, you know what, my body's not going to allow me to do this. I think the injury
was like light enough to where he could probably still ride this wave of promotion for another two
or three months, maybe. Um, Mike Tyson, I don't think it's going to happen. Really? I don't think
it's going to happen, man. I don't think that the ulcer thing is really the ulcer thing. I think that
he's getting older. I think that he's dealing with some of the things that we're talking about where

(53:43):
you're like, yeah, you want to, you want to go to the gym and you want to train and you want to
aspire, but your body is saying no. And so listening to your body is a big thing whenever it comes to
performance. I mean, if you're not listening to your body, if you're not giving your body enough
adequate rest, recovery, uh, nutrition, um, your body will tell you and it will tell you in ways

(54:06):
of sickness. It'll lower your immune system and allow you to, to catch things that you probably
wouldn't have caught otherwise. It will slow you down and get you to rest if you're not resting.
I think that's an interesting way to talk about this next fighter, Hamzat Shemayev.
Bors, I don't know if you're familiar with Mr. Hamzat Shemayev. Okay. I'm going to show you a

(54:29):
picture of Hamzat. Maybe that'll kind of jog your memory, but Hamzat Shemayev is this gentleman here.
He is, uh, he is a fighter that burst onto the scene in the UFC about three years ago,
because he came in, destroyed his opponent and immediately was like, put me on the next card.
He fought, I think three times in a matter of six weeks. Like, I mean, like one week, again,

(54:57):
three different weight classes. The dude was willing to like basically fight anywhere, anyone,
anytime. And everybody was like, okay, put him in there. He throw him, throw him to the belt, you
know, right away. Let's see what he can do. And Dana's like, no, we're going to bring them along
slowly. We're going to bring them along slowly. So now that he's finally at his proper weight
class and we're finally getting him to these premiere fights, what's happening is that every

(55:20):
single time he gets into a very intense training camp, his body is turning on him. And so, uh, he
he has pulled out of UFC 303. Uh, he was supposed to fight, uh, UFC 303. Uh, but his body is
responding negatively to training. Um, uh, I heard an interview with Alexander Gustafson,

(55:43):
his training partner, and he visited him in the hospital. And you could just tell, by the way,
that Alex is talking about the situation, that they're very concerned for Hamsa because no one
can tell him why his body is going into this flu like or, uh, food poisoning like state, like as
soon as he's getting like his hardest training momentum stride, his body like breaks down hives,

(56:10):
like vomiting, dehydration, all that sort of thing. So much so that there's pictures of Hamsa in the
hospital, not injured from like, I got a broken nose. I broke my arm. I twisted my ankle. His body
is literally just telling him once he gets to this certain point, we don't like this. And so
I don't know what that's all about. This is the first time I've ever seen that kind of, uh,

(56:33):
promote like advertised or talked about in the media as far as like a premier athlete,
not being able to compete because their body is not allowing them to get the proper training that
they need. And so, um, some speculation out there is maybe he's using some PEDs that is kind of like
as he's tapering off and kind of hitting a stride into a training camp that maybe his body is like

(56:58):
going through some withdrawal symptoms from that. Um, I don't want to throw any accusation. I
clearly don't know anything about Hamsa and his, his training. So, uh, yeah. So thoughts go out to
Hamsa Shamaya. If he's one of my favorite fighters, uh, bores, uh, I hope he gets to be able to figure
that out because in reality, uh, that dude should be just at the top of the food chain when it comes

(57:21):
to his weight class. So the body is a weird thing. Like the way that your body reacts to stress,
like whether it's mentally, physically, um, so yeah, that's, that's a big bummer. I hope that he
recovers and I'm sorry, I misspoke. He was not at 303. He was at this past fight night with Robert
Whitaker, uh, and he was supposed to be headlining that with Robert Whitaker. Um, Robert Whitaker won,

(57:47):
uh, that fight, uh, within like 90 seconds of the first round, he TKO'd his, his, his guy and Shamaya
have immediately tweeted out, see you soon. So he, the desire definitely is there. Um, I just think
that maybe he needs to maybe go see a holistic doctor and see if he could do some elimination

(58:08):
diet or. Yeah. Elimination diet. Maybe get, you know, a float in a cold plunge on that
for a float company. That's right. Shout out Kevin. Maybe you can get Homs out over and get his mind
right so that a way he can continue training. So the next pulling out segment might be a little bit
complicated, especially if you're unfamiliar with some of these names, uh, this past Saturday at UFC
303, the original fight that was booked was supposed to be between Jamal Hill and Khalil

(58:35):
Roundtree Jamal Hill. You may recognize from this podcast because Alex Poiton Pareta is the one that
knocked him out. Uh, after taking the growing strike, we talked about that at UFC 300. He protested,
said he, it was an early stop at, he'd never got knocked out. He's ready to fight tomorrow. X, Y,
and Z. Well, him and Khalil Roundtree were supposed to tie it up at UFC 303, but, uh, Jamal Hill,

(59:00):
uh, I'm sorry, Khalil Roundtree tested negatively for again, the most awesome thing in the world.
PEDs. So I have a lot to say about that. I mean, just a quick aside about these, I want to see
people at their very best. I, you know, I don't want people being reckless with their bodies and
their health. I want doctors involved, but I mean, baseball was way more interesting when everybody

(59:26):
was juiced up. Let's see how far they can hit those balls. Same with fighting. Like I want to see people
at their absolute best. I mean, I love bodybuilding and I love seeing these fucking monster
humans because they're not tested. We all know they are juiced out of their minds, but a lot of them
are dying early. I don't want to see athletes dying early. I want there to be doctors involved,

(59:49):
but I want to see you at your peak performance. Tour de France. Come on. Like let's see how fast
you can do that. Russian athletes. Yeah. Chinese athletes. Like I am all for PEDs. I want to see
peak performance, but I want it to be done healthy with doctors. I agree. I think that's a big thing

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that speaks to kind of like the war on drugs. I think that you're right on the money. I think that
there is a level of athlete that you get to that just about everybody indulges in PEDs and you
either make the decision to compete or not. And like you said, it's done in the dark. It's, I guess,
to prevent children from looking up to these athletes and thinking that that is what's necessary.

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But I think that we're also doing a great disservice by that 17 year old that just got
drafted and has to face the fact that there's all these 20 something year olds that are already
doing that. You know what I mean? There's that, but then also just, and I know this is becoming a
bigger aside, but if you look at social media influencers, especially fitness influencers,

(01:00:56):
the rock. Yeah. I mean, they're all, and not even that popular, like people with, you know,
50,000 followers on Instagram that they're a fitness influencer. They're definitely on something.
Sure. I mean, it may not be large amounts, but you have young impressionable teens who are seeing
this and then they're going to the gym and they're meeting that guy in the locker room and they're

(01:01:19):
getting the gym bro science for sure. And they're fucking up their endocrine system before their
body is fully developed. Absolutely. I am all for talking about this very publicly. Yeah. We need
to get out in the open so that way we can have like, like you said, doctors involved testing.
And also it's one of those things where it's like, it's ridiculous to sit there and say that this

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isn't happening whenever we know that it's happening. Like fighters are pulling out left and right
because I mean, Ryan Garcia, he's been suspended for an entire year because his tests came back
dirty. His record has been changed to reflect that he actually lost that fight instead of
winning that fight. Devin Haney is now undefeated again, even though we saw Ryan Garcia beat up

(01:02:04):
Devin Haney. So PEDs are like, we need to talk about it. We need to bring it out into the open.
We need to have this discussion. So that away, all of, cause I mean, like, let's think about it.
Just because Devin didn't get busted doesn't mean that he was also using PEDs during that fight.
He might have a clean pisser hiding somewhere. Like,
because he was smarter, better about it. Doesn't make that, you know what I mean? So,

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yeah, I agree with you there. Good aside. So Khalil Roundtree out, Jamal Hill then drew Carlos
Olberg into that fight. Carlos Olberg is a very sexy man from City Kickboxing. He's friends with
Israel Adesanya Downunda. So Carlos Olberg then got the sad and unfortunate news that Jamal Hill,

(01:02:50):
who had no injuries from getting knocked out at the UFC 300, he was ready to fight. All of a sudden
has meniscus problems and a tear and this and that, and he's going to be out.
See, over 30?
Yeah, of course.
That's why.
So then Carlos Olberg was left without an opponent, even though he was the one to step in.

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So to keep that fight alive, they brought in Anthony Lionheart Smith. I love Anthony Smith,
because every time he fights, I have to tell my wife, this is the fighter that someone tried to
break into his house. So a couple of years ago, Anthony Smith was making the rounds on the podcast
talking about how in the middle of the night, somebody dumb ass, somebody tried to break into
his house. And I'm like, of all the houses, you go to a guy that is like a lethal MMA fighter.

(01:03:38):
So Anthony Smith then got the bad news that Carlos Olberg got hurt. So then this guy who stepped in
for the step in, for the step in, was left without an opponent. And so thankfully Roman Dolizze has
now stepped in to fight. So this past Saturday, Anthony Smith and Roman Dolizze squared off in a

(01:04:00):
step in, step in, step in, pull out mania. It was like-
Step up to.
Step up to the streets to pull out of this fight. And so when we talk about pulling out,
we talk about opportunities that people get. And so UFC 303 Macy Barber was injured and pulled out
of the fight. And that is giving Tracy Cortez the opportunity to step up into place. And so one of

(01:04:25):
the things that's really cool about UFC, MMA, and in boxing and combat sports and in general,
if you are available, that is your greatest tool and asset into moving up the ranks,
moving up the ranks because these fights fall apart. And if you are close to weight,
or if you're training, or if you're answering your phone, you could move several spots in the

(01:04:51):
matter of just one fight.
Timing is everything.
Yeah. So the greatest ability is availability when it comes to the UFC and boxing and that sort of
thing. We touched on this quickly. Ryan Garcia is now saying that he is retired from boxing.
What a bummer.
Saying that this whole drama has gotten to him. He doesn't want to deal with it anymore. And he

(01:05:13):
is floating the idea of coming to MMA.
That could be fun.
So he wants to fight Shawn, Sugar Shawn O'Malley in a MMA fight, which is the worst possible idea
for Ryan Garcia. But I think that that would be interesting to see. So Conor McGregor,
I think he will fight again. Mike Tyson, I don't think that he will fight again. Ryan Garcia.

(01:05:38):
We'll find out on November 18th.
Ryan Garcia, I think this is a very young man that is kind of just out of his mind and doing
whatever he wants to do. And we'll see if he's retired or not.
UFC might be the right place. Maybe he needs to go to bare knuckle fighting.
I bet he should do that. I bet he'd do well there.
Yeah.
Lastly, when it comes to pulling out, we had somebody pull out for the last time and that

(01:06:00):
would be Tyler Willie. He is, you may know him from the movie Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
He was the guy that bigger gentlemen, Sumer wrestler.
Are those happy tissues or sad tissues? That guy. Well, that guy was also in a television

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program called Hawaii Five-0, but he also was in the very first UFC event ever.
Oh, yes. He was a Sumer wrestler and fought in UFC one, which was nationally televised. So
he passed away this week. We wanted to just shout him out just because if you're an old UFC fan,

(01:06:41):
if you have gone back on Fight Pass and just wanted to see the very first UFC event ever,
they showed on TV all the time. The original thing was like, let's get a Sumer wrestler and
put them up against a boxer or let's get a karate player and put them up against this.
It was like watching Street Fighter in real life.
Exactly. Yeah. So, Taylor, Tyler Willie or Wiley, I'm not sure you pronounce your name.

(01:07:03):
Rest in peace, sir. Thank you for the laughs and forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Thank you for your participation in UFC one, pulling out for the last time. Signing off,
Taylor Willie. Appreciate you. So that is our pulling out segment. We're going to kind of
bring that back as more people continue to pull out. We know it's going to happen, whether it's

(01:07:25):
to injury or to Ryan Garcia being crazy or to just PEDs. We'll bring that back each week and
make it a little bit shorter and talk about who pulled out this week. What did we miss? What are
we missing out on? So UFC 303 just happened on Saturday. What you have seen is Alex Poetan

(01:07:48):
Pereira defending against Yuri Prochaska. You've got Brian T. City Lopez fighting Diego Lopez,
which is kind of cool. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that because there's a comedian I follow named
Diego Lopez, who's also an MMA instructor. That's right. And I was like, wait a second.

(01:08:11):
There's two Diego Lopez. One is Lopez with an S, which is in the UFC. And one is Lopez with a Z,
which is the comedian slash MMA instructor. And I said Brian's last name is actually Ortega,
not Lopez versus Lopez, Brian T. City Ortega. The other fight I wanted to mention, we've got

(01:08:33):
Ian Gary Machado versus Michael Venom Page. Do those names mean anything to you, sir?
Machado definitely does. Okay. Ian Gary Machado is an up and coming fighter. He's,
he billed himself as kind of like the next Connor, kind of a good looking young guy that talks

(01:08:54):
really slick. You may know him from past fights where he's kind of, he's kind of got a weird way
of trash talking. He has previously taken his opponents mug shots and put them on t-shirts and
shown them up to press conferences. The thing that's getting kind of thrown back in his face

(01:09:14):
though is his wife is a little bit older. She's Brazilian and he took her last name. So Ian Gary
Machado is very progressive and he also lives in Brazil half of the year and fancies himself as a
part-time Brazilian. And so you've got a little bit of, you know, the fighters kind of giving
him grief for that, but his wife wrote a book called The Wags a few years ago that you can still

(01:09:39):
find on Amazon before she was married to Ian Gary. It was wife and girlfriends. Apparently this is a
big thing over in the UK where you're trying to land yourself a footballer. And so this whole like
ebook that she wrote a few years ago about how to land a high profile athlete and then she lands a

(01:10:01):
high profile athlete. And makes him take her last name. Not only that, her ex-husband is a yoga
instructor and lives with them. Hey, it's like I said, 2024. They're very progressive. So yeah,
there's a lot of fun, like interesting asides and anecdotes that have nothing to do with like

(01:10:25):
fighting with Ian Gary Machado. Michael Venom Page, he goes by MVP. He actually came over from
another promotion. He was a belt holder in another promotion and has completely obliterated everybody
he's touched in the UFC. And so this matchup is explosive. It's exciting. Ian Gary, the entire

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lead up to the fight is acting as if he is not bothered, doesn't really know who is Michael
Venom Page, is not playing into the whole like hype of the fight. He is really, really toning
down his image. If it was up to Ian Gary, you would never know that the fight was happening.

(01:11:10):
And so you've got MVP kind of stunned because they both come from this like Conor McGregor,
braggadocious thing. And it's like a one sided, like he's throwing jabs over Ian Gary Machado,
and he's just not getting anything back. So I'm wondering how that head game is playing with one
another as far as like, are they going to like actually like do the, you know how it is like you

(01:11:32):
get that pre fight aggression, like fuck you, don't fuck you, we're gonna fight, we're gonna fight. But
like, you've got one guy that's, no, one guy that's just like, yeah, hope it's gonna be a good fight.
The other guy's like, fuck you, man. That's wild. I'm looking it up right now. Yeah. Now very
interested. Yeah. So it's very cool. This UFC 303, the card almost didn't happen. Like we said,

(01:11:52):
we've got Alex Pereira taking on Yuri Prochaska. The one thing that I did want to mention to that,
that has been brought up to my attention, that is kind of interesting and like not so much
UFC related, but it is the fact that Alex Pereira comes from a tribe in Brazil that still engages

(01:12:14):
and uses shamans. And so he, for some of his press conferences has come out in full makeup
and headdress from the tribe that he's from in Brazil. He takes that very seriously. And
obviously there's something there to his like tribes people, his like connection to that whole

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thing. And I think that's something that we don't talk about enough is, not you and I, but in
general, as far as the UFC is concerned is spirituality and how your mind is really
molded and melded and kind of really just, it is affected by kind of like that spirituality vein.

(01:13:05):
And so Yuri, his opponent fancies himself as a samurai. And even though he's from,
I think he's from Chechnya, he fancies himself a samurai and he is very intuitive. And this
past week he has started to ask Alex Pereira if he would not involve the shaman in this fight

(01:13:29):
and meet him naturally on the plane, man to man, because he doesn't really believe that Alex is
winning by himself. He feels like the spirits or the shaman or his ancestors or whatever he's
calling upon is magically helping him win. The words magic, shaman, all of these things,

(01:13:53):
I'm not paraphrasing. Those are words that actually have come out of Yuri Prahaska's mouth.
And so days leading up to the event, you think like, again, we're looking for like aggression,
we're looking for trash talk, we're looking for like a buildup to sell the fight. And we've got
Yuri going, please, please don't, please don't pray to your gods and let's try to see if we can

(01:14:14):
have a one-on-one fight as opposed to. So whatever Alex is doing as far as like his spirituality
practice involving the shamans, involving his meditation or involving his mental health,
his mental health and wellbeing clearly is affecting the way that other people see him.
So I think again, with PEDs, something that we may need to talk about is,

(01:14:40):
are these cats practicing some black magic that we like, that we don't know about? You know what I
mean? I definitely think that there is something to that. I do too. I mean, also like if you look at
the Uwe Tai traditions, that is very tied to spirituality, religion and like identity.

(01:15:00):
So I definitely think.
Rocky had to go get blessed by the father before he went and got far. I mean, he just said,
throw me a quick one. I got to fight. Bless you son. You know what I mean?
It is definitely whether you believe that it is the spiritual side or if it is just something
in your mental game that is being unlocked, which who's to say we don't understand a lot of stuff.

(01:15:22):
So I am not going to discount any of the spiritual side of it. I definitely think it is real and I
definitely think that it can give you an edge if you are all in on it.
**Jay】 I think that we practice magic a lot and we don't even freaking know it. We are just like,
as far as like this whole manifestation movement and as far as visualization and that sort of
thing, all of that is hermeticism. And so I think that it is really cool that we are hearing somebody

(01:15:48):
publicly ask another fighter like, hey, leave the magic at home, please. Can we fight just a regular
fight? So in response, Alex said, I've got Alex's response. He said, it is not my fault that you
haven't figured out your spiritual path yet. **Matt Stauffer** Damn. Well, I mean, if he is a samurai,
he might be Shinto. And that is a whole different ballpark.

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**Jay】 I just thought that that was amazing that he was just like, he was like,
he's like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to let go of my spirituality just because you haven't
figured out your spirituality yet. You know what I mean? Also, Alex Paretta is sympathizing with
Conor McGregor on his broken toe because he just fought with that exact same injury.
**Matt Stauffer** But he still fought. **Jay** Yeah, that's the point. He's like,

(01:16:34):
yeah, I can see how a broken toe hurts. I literally just fought with a broken toe. So
I'm really excited to see what happens in that fight. I'm also looking forward to essentially
a preview of, so here's the quote. Alex Paretta says, everybody has their own spirit. We're not
only made of flesh and bone. I have found mine. If he did not find his, or if he does not believe,

(01:16:58):
it's not my fault. **Matt Stauffer** Yeah. And you know, we're a good place to go and find
your spirit, your spiritual advisor and to visualize. **Jay Finkielman** Fort Worth Float Company.
**Matt Stauffer** Spent a lot of time in those float tanks and I've seen some shit.
**Jay Finkielman** Yeah, man. **Matt Stauffer** That's why I'm not discounting any of this.
**Jay Finkielman** Get inside of your head, figure out where you come from, figure out what your

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ancestors are. Not you because you're white. I'm just kidding. No, but like tap into that. See if,
and not just because you're a fighter, but because you're a person and you're probably
fighting something out there in life that is difficult. I know we all are going through some
trials and tribulations. I, this past week have been fighting myself a lot and been in my head.

(01:17:44):
And I know a lot of people out there are, just hung out with Jordan last night just to kind of
blow some steam off because it's hard out there to be human. So, I'm just kidding. I'm just
kidding. Take care of yourself. Take some time to slow down. Don't be like Homsot. Don't train
yourself till you're making yourself sick because that part of the game, no matter what game you're

(01:18:10):
playing, whether it's the UFC or the game of life, I mean, that spiritual mental part is a huge part
because I mean, I know that there are times where like I don't practice what I preach and I feel
like a huge freaking phony. So, that mental thing and that spiritual thing is one of those things

(01:18:30):
where like, obviously if someone's doing it right, it's noticeable. And so, and you want some of that
in your life. And the easiest way to do that, like you said, is to disconnect from your phone,
disconnect from the things that are in front of you that are distracting you from what's truly
and really important in your life. Take a simple moral inventory. Like if I could take only this

(01:18:55):
stuff with me tomorrow, it's going to be my family. It's going to be my pets. It's going to be the
things that are really truly important to me. So, yeah, man, this coming up fight is cool. There's
a lot of, like I said, it's kind of a bummer that we've had a lot of pullouts and some of the things
that we could have seen. It would have been nice to see Robert Whitaker versus Homsot Shemayev.
It would have been nice to see Connor versus Michael Chandler. But I think that we're getting

(01:19:20):
some good fights in its place. And I think that also some of these things, like we said, whether
it's PDDs or spirituality or training too hard or whatever the case may be, like a lot of the times
in the past, you know, I would say maybe even five years ago before Twitter, before blogs and that
sort of thing, you would just not know why a fighter was out or the fight just wouldn't happen.

(01:19:45):
They wouldn't rush to get like a replacement. They would just rebook it at another date or whatever.
So the UFC I think is doing it right. We have a couple of minutes left in this podcast. And
I think we're gonna skip this segment for now and just go to this other segment.
This podcast will be dropping on the 4th of July. Freedom day. Yeah.

(01:20:08):
So if you're listening to us today, happy 4th of July. We kind of wanted to take a different take
on it and just talk about some of the violence that goes hand in hand with being an American.
I know that movies sometimes portray us, especially as Texans, as like, everybody's got a gun and

(01:20:31):
everybody's, you know, that sort of thing. I actually had a conversation with a family
from New Jersey yesterday. I was at work and they're like, yeah, we're down here. Like our
flight got delayed. So that's why we're here where I work. And they're like, yeah, we thought Texas
was just, everybody had a gun, that there were rattlesnakes everywhere, that it was just like a
violent place. But wow, Texas, like, this is awesome. We could like it better than New Jersey. Like,

(01:20:55):
you can drink beer on the street and you can like, basically they're saying they felt like
they had more freedoms, but they didn't feel unsafe. And they were shocked by the lack of
everyone like waving guns around and that there weren't rattlesnakes and cows and horses everywhere,
which is funny because again, growing up in the Midwest, when I moved to Texas 20 plus years ago,

(01:21:19):
everyone's like, oh, you're going to ride a horse and shoot guns and there's going to be snakes.
So the fact that in 2024 people from the Northeast still think that Texas is like
the wild West is kind of crazy to me. Yeah. I'm right there with you. As far as that is concerned,
it's, you see that a lot of TikTok tropes, you know, like where's your gun, you know, that sort

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of thing. But as far as like growing up in America, I think that we were exposed to violence
through media a lot. And I think that that informed a lot of like our identity. And so
it's just one of those things where if you take a look at the history of our country, a lot of,

(01:22:03):
a lot of what we have and a lot of what we are was built on the back of violence from, you know,
from the American Indian, Native American. Yeah. I mean, it's just, you know, we, we, you know,
from that all the way up until, you know, we have Tuskegee experiments, we have, you know,
just these things that we have done to the American people, you know, and, and by the American

(01:22:29):
people, not just to us, but also to other countries. And, and it is, I would say it is a
synonym. Violence is a synonym with, with America, I would say. As far as America goes, violence and
wars are business. Business is always booming because we're always creating wars and trying to

(01:22:50):
push the American agenda on the rest of the world. It's true. I'm right there with you as far as that
is concerned. I mean, I, you know, I wish I could speak differently as far as that is concerned,
but from the time that I was born to up until now, it really feels like you've got a lot of people
that really are invested in the, the military industrial complex, the growth of all of that.

(01:23:14):
And yeah, you look, you look at, you know, any, you, you, you pull up any, you can go to any
grocery store, go to any regular store and you pick up a product and you go look at the stockholders
of that product. And I'm pretty sure BlackRock owns a majority of that company. And also being
here in Fort Worth, Texas, we have Lockheed Martin. And also if you're driving toward down,

(01:23:40):
if you're driving west towards 30 or west down 30, you're going to pass a Bay systems building
before you hit Lockheed Martin. Yeah, it is. We, in order to continue running this awful machine,
it has to be, you know, paid for and run with blood of others. Sure. So, yeah, we are, we are

(01:24:07):
patriots in the sense of the word that we're realists. We're, we, we kind of like to see things
for what they are. And so we just wanted to touch on that and kind of remind you, I know along with
a lot of the hot dogs and the fireworks and all of the fun stuff that might go on with 4th of July,
just take a moment to realize that a lot of that was built on blood, blood of innocent people,

(01:24:32):
blood on people from other countries, blood on immigrants, blood on the police,
blood on people from other countries, blood on immigrants. And it's still to this day, I mean,
without getting too far into it, I mean, everything going on in Israel and Gaza,
everything going on in Russia and Ukraine, the proxy wars that are currently happening

(01:24:55):
outside those two areas, the next few years are going to be wild. And I really don't think that
any politician has any of our best interests in mind because I could go on and on about this
forever. I'm going to try and, you know, if you're pro-Israel, go fuck yourself. And Israel is buying

(01:25:17):
our politicians left and right and they're owning our country. If you do not see what is going on
in Gaza and you do not call it a genocide, pull your head out of your fucking ass.
RG Real Talk. Yeah, just so you all know where we stand, if you've been with us up into this point
and, you know, we, Kiki and Kaka and Haha about this, that and the third, but Real Talk, 4th of July,

(01:25:40):
we want to keep it real with you as far as it's concerned. We're not happy with the way that things
go in our country. We are not here to sit by and just let it happen without our voices being heard.
If you're our friends, you're our family, you know where we stand. But if you've never heard us before,
you should take heed to our word, realize that there are things that are happening in this country,

(01:26:02):
around this country that are violent and that are just unnecessary when it comes down to it.
We are really motivated by money. We're really motivated by greed. We're really motivated by
lining the pockets of others that are not us in particular, because I think that when it comes
down to it, like you said, our politicians are bought and paid for, but the fervor is really out

(01:26:27):
of just nationalism, is out of division, is out of insecurity. That's the only way that they're
going to whip you up into a fervor to get behind them. That's the only way that they're going to
whip you up into a fervor to support them with your money. The only way that politicians get
into office is because there are people that are voting for them. There are people that are giving
them their money to contribute to campaign. So if you're one of those people that blindly gives

(01:26:50):
money or blindly goes and votes or does that sort of thing, that is something that you need to take
a long hard look at yourself for because where's your money going? We try as best we can as a family
to spend our money in the proper way. Even down to the simple things like my pedal board,
you'll never see a JHS pedal on my pedal board. I'm for female owned companies. I'm for immigrant

(01:27:14):
owned companies. I'm for anything that's the opposite of what I've lived the first time.
The first 40 years of my life. I want to know better. I want to do better. I want to... Yes,
this podcast is a celebration of violence in the form of combat sports, but we do not celebrate

(01:27:34):
the violence that's been perpetrated by the United States of America. We are thankful and appreciative
of where we live, but we just wanted to kind of get that out there and let you know kind of where
we stand on this independence day. Yeah, absolutely. I actually had a conversation,
when I say conversation, it was a message back and forth on Instagram with a friend

(01:27:57):
who was talking about, basically disagreeing with me about politicians. I've made some posts
about like, hey, politicians don't care about us. They only care about money, where the money's
coming from. This was specifically about Bernie Sanders and the AOC. I still stand behind that,
even all of these progressive people who are pushing what they want you to think is a socialist

(01:28:23):
agenda is not a socialist agenda. There's still big money behind it. There's still big corporations
behind it and they do not have your best interests in mind. I know everybody was a Bernie bro in 2016.
I mean, the dude has never once called what's happening over in Gaza a genocide. AOC has
refused to call it a genocide. They are liberals. They are part of the problem.

(01:28:48):
Also, part of the politician's goal is to divide us. Right side, left side, Republican, Democrat,
liberal, libertarian, whatever. Green party.
It is all just trying to divide us so that we can't see the real enemy, which is
the government, the politicians. For sure. Yeah. We need to lead with love. We need to lead with

(01:29:10):
understanding. We need to start there because I think that, like you said, a lot of this division
is crazy because if you spent any time with any person, you're going to find out that you're more
alike than you are different. Some of these differences that you have, yes, they are
heartstring things like abortion is one of the big ones. There's a lot of single issue voters

(01:29:32):
in America and it's one of those things where like, yeah, that's maybe a problem for some people or
that may be an issue to you morally or that, but there's like a million other things that we could
really be arguing and talking about. We need to get women healthcare. We need abortion to be
healthcare, first of all. We need to get women healthcare and we need to let them make their
own decisions with their own bodies and get the fuck out of that situation so that way we can

(01:29:53):
focus on the fact that we're printing money ridiculously for no good reason. There's no
backing behind it. It's invisible. We owe millions, billions, trillions to China. If they ever came
calling, we'd be their bitch. Our military is atrophying. We have the draft now being enlisted

(01:30:14):
again. If you're 18 to 22, make sure you sign up for that selective service because-
Well, no, not even that. That is actually, because I had somebody get into it with me about that the
other day, it is actually the thing that they just passed. It is that you no longer have to
go sign up for it because we had 18, I was like, hey, when you get your driver's license, you have

(01:30:37):
to go sign up. Now between the ages of 18 and 24, you're automatically signing up for it.
Call your number up whenever you're ready to go.
But I think the misconception about that because there's so much information-
We're having a draft currently. Yeah.
On TikTok and social media and all that, which is where everyone seems to get their news from
without doing any research is there's not a draft enacted. It's just that you're automatically put

(01:31:00):
into the draft. They're saving us a step.
Yeah. Which means a lot of people jump to the inclusion of, hey, there's going to be a draft
soon, which wouldn't be surprised. I sure fucking hope not. I've got a son who will be 18 before
too long, but mostly I'm just hoping that just fucking stop going out for blood and oil America.

(01:31:23):
That's a great way to end the podcast, I believe. Happy 4th of July.
We're ending on a real positive note here. It's hard to get political.
Yeah. It's been kind of, like I said, we'll call this the bummer episode. We've got a lot of fights
that didn't happen, some pulling out. That's always a bummer. And also just thinking on

(01:31:44):
the atrocities of the United States of America. We started real positive with the serial memories
and ended here in the fucked up dystopia of America.
Such is life. Yeah. So quickly, if you have Instagram, TikTok, all that good stuff,
we're also on there. You can find us Breakfast of Champions pod. It's usually Breakfast of

(01:32:05):
Champs pod or something like that. We're also on the iTunes and the Spotify and all that good stuff.
So if you've got a podcast app that you use, just type in Breakfast of Champions, you'll find us on
there as well. If you want to give us a call, give us a review, 682-294-0101. If you want to email us,
it's breakfastofchampspod at gmail.com. Like we said, we appreciate all of the love that we've

(01:32:30):
been getting from the past episodes. Our first episode and James Gray episode, those are our
two most listened to episodes. So if that tells you anything about how things are going, I think that
they're going really well. I think people are resonating with our guests. Can't wait to see how
the numbers do for Kevin. I really love that episode, fun episode. I just wanted, before we go to

(01:32:53):
quickly say, I'm very sad because I have not had a single message from Munchomaniac. Oh. Haven't
heard from Baja Blaster. I'm working on Baja Blaster. He's a little shy. Listening back, we
just barely touched on Gene and never got back to that. Gene's in lockup, so he doesn't get that

(01:33:15):
many calls. That's true. That's true. So if you are out there, Munchomaniac, Baja Blaster or Gene,
hit us up. We'd love to feature you on a podcast in the future. Drop us a like, a message, a text,
anything. We'll throw you on our social medias or our podcasts. Also, we've got some fun guests in

(01:33:36):
the works. So I'm very excited once all the details get worked out. I can't wait. I'm so excited. I'm
just, man, yeah. It's going to be a good time. I'm super excited. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for
joining us. This has been Breakfast of Champions. Parker, I'm going to give you the last minute to
take it away with anything you got. I ended on such a bummer. You bunned yourself out? Yeah. We

(01:33:59):
started this pretty early, so it is only 9 a.m. right now. So I'm going to go home and eat some
cereal and watch some cartoons for the rest of my morning. That's wonderful. Just a quick aside,
if you are looking for another podcast to listen to after this one, we've got a brother that is
doing his thing over at Remind Rewind with Jordan Klein. His last podcast he went into, Can't Hardly

(01:34:23):
Wait. I love that episode. Such a great episode. Such a fun podcast. Jordan's way better at it than
I am. Whenever he did his teaser trailer and sent it over, he's like, is this good? I'm like, yeah,
you sound really like your energy's good. He's like, well, I did go to broadcast journalism school.
And I'm like, that makes sense. We're both here, just raw dog. Yeah, we're raw dog in life. And

(01:34:45):
he's over there just like, yes, broadcast. I edit my own podcast. I'm also a physical media junkie.
At one point, I had almost a thousand VHS tapes and did VHS screenings. So I love hearing Jordan's
take on stuff and his diving back into collecting VHS and stuff. It's very cool. Very cool. So check

(01:35:06):
Remind Rewind out anywhere you get podcasts. That's our homie, Jordan. I was on one of the episodes,
so you can hear my episode if you just can't get enough of my voice. You also get to hear Jordan on
our podcast before and after. He is the voice that you're hearing yelling in the music before
and after our podcast. That's correct. The voice you hear before our voices is Jordan's voice.

(01:35:28):
That's right. Well, it's actually Shooter McGavin. And then Jordan. And then us. And then Jordan again.
Yeah. So that's fun. I hope you guys have a great week. We will catch you next week with
another exciting episode. You can still say something. All right.
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