July 11, 2024 • 52 mins
This week, we took the show on the move to Ray's Burgers in Fort Worth, TX. Parker has taken over the counter and grill at Ray's, located at 1945 8th Avenue in the Southside neighborhood. If you're looking for a new lunch spot, come visit Parker from 11 am to 3 pm, Monday to Friday.
If you're into movies or cinema at all, this spot may be of particular interest to you because Parker has set up a TV/VCR situation there. When I arrived for the podcast, there was some Wu-Tang/Shaw Brothers action on the screen to greet me.
Initially, we discuss the results of the UFC 303 event, as well as take a look forward to this weekend's Fight Night. We've both been on a movie kick lately and this week we talk about two films in particular. We tackle the classic and beloved "Bloodsport," as well as take a moment to discuss the heartbreaking movie, "The Iron Claw."
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because I was stoked because I just got this TV
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and I had also just drank a whole bunch of cold brew
and hadn't eaten in like 12 hours.
I just screamed at the top of my lungs,
like a high-pitched shrill scream,
and Ava lost her mind.
She was just like, what are you,
like she was telling everyone,
because I'm always pretty just like mellow,
and so it blew her mind that I just like screeched
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at the top of my lungs.
She was like, what happened on my lawn?
I saw, I think it was a YouTube video or something,
it was a wedding, and they had hired the original singers
of that jingle to come and recreate the jingle live
at the wedding.
Whoa.
And so there was even a guy reading the copy,
he's like, at O'Reilly Auto, right into the micro,
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that's amazing.
And I was like, is it someone that paid that much money
or did they like, they're family members of the O'Reilly?
They should have had the Home Depot crew in there too,
get them both, the two most iconic jingles.
Do, do, do, do, do.
Blue Man Group performing that in the background.
Yeah.
Ugh.
["Forever Young"]
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You're in big trouble though, pal.
I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast.
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
No.
["Forever Young"]
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Welcome to season one, episode eight
of Breakfast of Champions.
We might have a little bit of buzz here,
I don't know where that's coming from, but.
Could be the TV.
Yeah, we're raw dogging.
Nah, it's cool, it's maybe the batteries, maybe whatever.
Welcome friends, this is Breakfast of Champions,
season one, episode eight.
We are coming to you live from Ray's Burger Shop.
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Just Ray's Burgers.
Yeah, just Ray's Burgers.
So, we're doing a little live spot here
because our co-host Parker has taken over the counter here
and is making this spot his sandwich emporium
for lunchtime in Fort Worth.
I do burgers and burger accessories.
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Looks really good, smells really good.
I'm excited to try one, maybe not right this second
on the podcast, because we have stuff to talk about,
but I've been wanting to bring the kids here, so.
Breakfast burgers, not really,
we just have regular burgers, but one day.
So, last time we talked, we had a little bit
of a shoot in the shit episode, it was more a funsies,
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just kind of throwback to the beginning of the podcast.
We definitely talked about 303, UFC 303 a little bit,
just because that was coming up,
and it was one of those episodes
where it kind of coming to you in real time now,
and we're not banking episodes anymore,
so like this episode will come out on Thursday,
which is like the day after tomorrow.
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So, UFC 303 just happened, Saturday, June 29th,
I know that wasn't this past weekend,
but we did talk about it before it actually happened,
and so, if you missed it,
and you're just solely relying on us,
if you missed it, we have a Wu-Tang Clan
playing in the background, so if you're hearing that,
that's kind of, we're setting the mood for the podcast,
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we have violence on the screen,
right now we're training with the wooden forms,
this is an amazing training montage, Wu-Tang Clan,
would you say Parker Brothers?
No, so this is a Hong Kong connection, yeah,
Parker Brothers, the Wu-Tang board game.
That would be fun.
I would play that.
I'd play that.
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You gotta get through all 36 chambers.
So the big fights we were talking about at UFC 303
that we were excited for, we talked about
Michael Venom-Page and Ian Machado-Garry,
or Ian-Garry-Machado, the gentleman that took his wife's
name and has moved to Brazil,
so Michael Venom-Page came out, and he's coming from
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more of like a kickboxing karate stance world
where a lot of awkward angles, quick strikes,
and so if you caught that fight, you saw that
Ian-Machado-Garry basically played defense the entire time
and grappled the entire time, which is a very smart
strategy when it comes to someone that is an awkward
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striker, if you're unfamiliar with where those angles
are coming from, you want that person as close to you
as possible, and if you can clench them or exchange them
grappling on the ground, you've neutralized that awkward
striking and the karate stance and all of that.
So Ian-Machado-Garry was very confident coming into it.
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He just didn't play into the MVP trash talk
and all that stuff like that, and so it was very interesting
to see his game plan play out.
The crowd was not into it, they were booing the whole time
because they wanted to see action, but I think he played
it smart, he didn't buy into the trash talk,
he played the defensive game, he got that win under his belt
and he's onto the next one, and so I think that puzzle
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Michael Venom-Page a lot, and I think that's the other thing
is you have to remember, you're coming into the UFC
where like 60% of the champions are gonna be
Dagestani wrestlers, so if you have no grappling,
if you have no wrestling, you might be a loser.
A loser.
It's crazy how much wrestling plays into it.
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That's something I talk about a lot is how I wish
I would have done wrestling in high school,
but I didn't want to get into the...
No rigs customers, just a...
Ah, darn.
Yeah, if you hear that little ring in the background,
it's because somebody's walking in, they could be getting
a burger, they could be getting a beverage from the
convenience store we're attached to.
This is awesome, I think we should just do all our podcasts
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here.
Cool with doing that.
Yeah, so it was kind of a boring fight in terms of
striking and whatnot, but he did neutralize Michael Venom-Page
very effectively.
The next one that I was excited to kind of talk about,
I don't know, did you see the Myra Buenosilva versus
Macy Shazan fight at all?
I did not.
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So Myra Buenosilva is accused a lot of being kind of like
a lazy fighter, she has all of the skills and techniques,
but it's almost as if when she gets in there,
she's undecided if she actually, she's like,
do I really wanna fight?
You know what I mean?
And so she holds back a lot.
So Macy Shazan is a decorated American fighter,
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she's kind of like one of those all American looking girls,
and she elbowed the shit out of Myra Buenosilva
in the second round and cut open a gash above her eyebrow
that you could literally stick a couple of fingers in,
it was that big.
And so, yeah, it was like one of those things.
So there was a doctor's stoppage there,
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there was a lot of blood, big old hole in her head,
and I did see a follow-up.
I think she got like 15 plus staples in her head,
in her eyebrow.
Yeah, so that whole part of your eyebrow was just
kind of stapled and sewn up shut
because it was just gashed open.
So that was one of the most brutal,
one of the more brutal elbows I've seen this year
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in UFC so far, and so that was kind of a cool one.
And so I don't know if you remember,
we also talked about that round robin of five fighters
in the one fight, and it wound up being Anthony Smith
and Roman Delizze.
The guy that stepped in with six days notice
beat the guy that stepped in with seven days notice,
or whatever it was.
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Insane.
So Roman Delizze, they both looked like they were in shape,
but not necessarily go 100% fighting shape.
And so it was kind of a, it was a compelling fight
in the sense of they didn't have very much time,
and you kind of got to see where you're,
the basics of fighting.
You still have a jab, you still have a hook,
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you still have to take down defense,
you still have to do all that stuff.
But some of those specialty things that you see
in some of those fighters that they develop in camp,
they really wanna work on taking somebody down,
or they really wanna submit somebody, whatever,
that really wasn't gonna happen in that fight,
because there was just no time for preparation.
Then you had Danny Gay and Diego Lopez
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was the co-main event.
Diego Lopez won decision, unanimous decision.
Danny Gay is the one that stepped in and fought
that same night I text you,
pulling out in real time.
So Brian Ortega woke up Saturday morning not feeling well,
and, or I guess it was late Friday night,
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Saturday morning not feeling well,
and so Danny Gay is already in training camp
because he had a fight two weeks from now, actually.
He was supposed to fight, I think, in July.
And so he text the brass at the UFC and said,
yo, I'm in town for the fights, I'm in shape,
I'm in training camp because I'm already ready to go.
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Like, let's save this card, let's save the fight.
And Saturday morning he weighed in, he weighed in.
I mean, he, and so poor Diego Lopez, he's like,
I'm gonna fight at 165, I'm gonna fight at 175,
I'm gonna fight at 150.
He didn't know.
So Diego Lopez had, again, props to Danny Gay
for stepping up on the same day,
but also props to Diego Lopez for being willing to tangle
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with whoever, whenever, at whatever weight class.
And so during the day of Saturday,
while the card was still kinda getting ready to start,
in the background of all of that was happening
was Danny Gay stepping up to fight,
Diego Lopez accepting the fight, them weighing in,
them getting the commission to approve the fight,
and it all happened right before showtime.
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And so right when we were starting to watch the UFC event,
they were talking about how all of this was happening,
and I was texting all my UFC friends, Parker and Jason,
I was like, pulling out in real time,
pulling out in real time.
So Brian Ortega pulled out on Saturday,
and Danny Gay stepped up.
So props to that fight, that was a cool fight to see,
just because of the background of all of that.
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And then obviously the main event was Alex Pereira
and Yuri Prohaska, and man, man.
Shaman prevails.
Yeah, black magic, shamanism prevailed
in a pretty astounding fashion.
I don't know, the first round at the very end of the round,
Alex pieced him up, and it looked like the fight was over,
but he got saved by the bell, he looked shaky getting up,
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going back to his corner, and then in the second round,
it was just no different.
Yuri looked perplexed, it was almost like
he couldn't understand what was happening.
I've sent you some videos post that.
He said he either needs to evolve or retire.
And so he is very, he's in a dark place right now.
He's in that sunken place where he believes,
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like he had his cross on, he was blessing himself
multiple times to protect himself
from this black magic stuff, and so spiritually,
I think that he's kind of questioning,
what is up with the fact that he should have been protected
by the blood of Christ against this black magic shaman
from Brazil, but that was not the case.
Black magic prevailed, dude knocked him out,
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and then, I don't know if you saw the,
someone's made like a post fight,
like a little highlight clip of him,
and it was Yuri being helped up by the refs,
and Alex looked at him, and he fell down again,
so that did not help to play into the fact
that it wasn't black magic.
So very, very great UFC 303.
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I know a lot of people might have been disappointed
by some of the fights not happening in that event,
i.e. Michael Chandler, Conor McGregor,
you know, maybe Jamal Hill and Khalil Roundtree.
Some people were looking to that,
looking to those events to really like,
make this card a thing, but I think that the fights
that happened were great.
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I was very impressed by the people
that stepped up to the fight, and so this Saturday,
we had Ms. Tracey Cortez pulling out to fight.
This lady right here, Rosnami Younis,
I've been intrigued since she first came into the UFC,
but there's kind of a creepy aspect to the fact
that her husband is her trainer,
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and they met when she was 14.
No.
And he's a little bit older than her,
so there's a little bit of creepiness there
of like, how long have you guys been doing that thing?
So yeah, he walks, I mean, he's in her corner
walks out with her, and they like,
give a little kiss before she fights,
and it's just like, oh, it's just a reminder
that that's the creepiness in the background there.
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That sounds like some Drake shit.
Probably a minor.
Tracey Cortez, she's a great fighter,
Hispanic obviously, she's, you know,
stepped in at short notice.
This gentleman right here, Santiago Ponsanubio,
is a very exciting fighter to watch.
He's kind of similar to like Stephen Wonderboy Thompson,
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or even like we were talking about Michael Venom-Page.
He's got that awkward tie, awkward angle stance
and stuff like that.
We've got Drew Dover versus Jean Silva,
Drew Dover's pretty boy.
He's one of those.
Johnny Cage from Mortal Kombat.
Yeah, he's a pretty cool guy though.
Gabriel Bonfim versus Angel Lusa.
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I don't know much about Mr. Lusa,
but he looks like he can handle business.
And then we've got some people,
Cody Brundage is fighting, Abdul Razak Alhassan.
Is this the gentleman that was over, Razak Alhassan?
I believe that's the gentleman that,
double check that in real time if you would.
So if that's the case, then Mr. Alhassan, Razak Alhassan,
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is the gentleman that was over at Fort Worth Float Company
with Kevin O'Malley getting some recovery.
Yeah, that is him.
He gave Kevin a nice little chop.
There you go.
Yeah, so if you don't follow Fort Worth Float Company
on Instagram, please go do that now.
Our buddy Kevin runs Recovery Center,
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float tank, sensory deprivation float take pods,
cold blind and sauna.
And Mr. Alhassan was here for recovery.
And as a little gift, he gave him a nice little leg kick
that we've been talking about so much.
So that's gonna be a cool fight.
Vested interest in that.
We have some ties to the podcast on that fight coming up.
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So we'll be cheering for him for sure.
Screw you, Cody Brundage.
Let's see here, who else do we have here?
I wanna go back up.
Go ahead.
So Fatima here.
Yeah, she may be making her debut.
Okay, cause I was gonna say, again.
She's unranked, so she may be making her debut.
And once she does, so all these come from pre-fights.
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So this probably was from his last fight.
And then when they get to fighting this weekend,
when they come from like their pre-fight ceremonies
and all that stuff, they do promo fights
for the packages coming up for the TV,
but then they'll use those for their upcoming shots.
So if she hasn't fought in the UFC yet,
she's coming from another promotion.
She doesn't have any promotional shots.
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She'll get those this week,
whenever she shows up for fight week.
I'm just wondering if she's a distant relative of our Jordan.
Yeah, Jordan Klein.
Fatima, the Archangel, let's see.
She is fighting, oh wait, there's no info.
Yeah, she is.
She has two wins by knockout, one win by submission.
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She has 0.0 average fight time.
So we know nothing about her.
We'll learn if Jordan has a long lost sister.
Like the picture on this website kinda looks like
the girl from the ring when you're scrolling,
you're like, what is happening?
Yeah, that's pretty much all I wanna talk about
for this fight.
So yeah, so Saturday, check it out.
It's fight night, so it's free.
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If you have ESPN+, you don't have to buy a paper view
for this one.
So we're gonna move right along.
Parker, every single time we ask anybody
what their favorite Jean-Claude Van Damme movie,
the answer comes back inevitably,
Cinnamon Toast Crunch every single time.
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No, it comes back Bloodsport every single time.
I'm really shocked that no one has said Predator.
Because he was in the suit.
That's true.
So, but-
Little backstory info for you.
I actually, I've been thinking about this,
besides, and we're gonna get into Bloodsport,
but maybe we should just ask what the favorite
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like martial art or action movie is
because I love Jean-Claude.
I've watched, if not every movie he's been in,
most of them.
So that's why I put Jean-Claude.
But I do think that Bloodsport is his most,
probably his most well-known next to like Street Fighter,
but as far as like his highest quality,
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like most iconic, Bloodsport is always gonna be the one.
And it is, it's just, it's so good.
Yeah.
So Bloodsport is a movie that people know and love
from the 80s when anytime you think about martial arts films,
anytime you think about like action films from the 80s,
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action film stars from the 80s,
Bloodsport's gonna come up time and time and time again.
Like I said, I saw this movie when I was way too young.
Yeah.
I did not understand, you know, what was going on.
There's some cool things in this movie that,
that, there's some cool things in this movie
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that you don't think about as a kid.
So like one Kowloon Walled City,
the fact that that was like one of the only films
that was filmed in the Kowloon Walled City.
I hope as a child, you would never have an understanding
of why that's significant or important.
They're, I guess they're liaison,
tried to kind of give a little backstory into that
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with the secret agreement between the Chinese and whatnot.
So check that out.
If you have no knowledge of Kowloon Walled City,
there's a cool emo band that is named that as well.
They're not an emo band.
What are they?
I would classify them firmly in the noise rock,
but they border on like,
I don't even wanna call it sludge,
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like in the same vein as like neurosis to an extent
with like some more noise rock elements.
Fine, be definitive.
So yeah, the one thing that I kind of wanted to bring up
as far as like, I mean the whole Frank Dukes backstory.
Whenever I was a kid, there was no internet.
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So at the end of the movie, when you see that this movie
was based on the real life of Frank Dukes
and all of the records and all that stuff like that,
you're like, holy shit, Frank Dukes is a badass.
And then now that I'm 40 and we have YouTube
and all that hindsight, you realize that Frank Dukes
is nothing more than a con man.
Yeah, exactly.
But kind of cool movie out of it.
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Dude, we have one of the coolest movies out of it.
So the other thing that I didn't realize as a child,
I didn't put two and two together
just because I was like, oh, movies as a kid.
But how similarly some of the resemblances are
between Enter the Last Dragon and also Bloodsmoore.
Yes, absolutely.
So going back to that whole thing,
but what were your favorite parts of that movie as a kid?
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I mean, something as a kid, as an adult,
the training montage, I'm always a sucker
for a good training montage,
which is also why that question is in the lightning round
is because I love just watching a good training montage.
I mean, the final fight obviously is iconic.
The crazed look when he gets back up,
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the bloody nose, the like just, I'm coming for you.
And oh no, I'm gonna, sometimes I get the movies confused,
understandably so, but Bloodspoore and Kickboxer
came out like less than a year apart, very similar movies.
But I don't remember if it was Bloodspoore or Kickboxer,
the dancing scene where he's got the high-waisted pants
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and he's- That's Kickboxer.
Oh man, damn.
Well, that'll be for the Kickboxer episode.
Yeah, so as a kid, a couple of things that I remember
from like loving as a kid, first and foremost,
I loved the jacket that he was wearing,
like the Akira-like bomber type jacket or whatever.
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For some reason, when I see that jacket
or whenever I watched Akira and I liked that jacket,
I don't know what it is, but there's even some of that
in Kill Bill whenever you see, they go to Japan
and the crazy 88 and all of that.
But just that 80s fashion of like- It's so cool.
The shoulder paddy, kind of like bigger torso jacket,
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the sleeves that are puffier, that always stuck out to me
when I was a kid.
But I too also loved the montages as a kid.
And I liked the chase montage when I was a kid.
That was one of my favorite things whenever I was a kid
because I was like, they're gonna end up in the water.
But you know what I mean?
I think that this director and producer,
whoever made this movie, they're like king of montage.
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There's so many great montages whenever he initially goes
to pay respects to his Shidoshi.
He just walks in, looks at the sword
and then there's this great montage of how he met
his Shidoshi and what happened with his son.
Did you ever think that Shingo was the one that got killed
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by Chong Li and the Kumite the year before?
I did.
I did too.
Yeah, like that's kind of what I picked up on.
I always thought that and then I watched it again
the other night and I was like, why did I think that?
Because they could have easily made that connection
or whatever.
But whenever he goes to see Shingo's picture
and he's dressed in the martial arts garb,
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I always thought that that was the implication.
That's kind of why he had to go back and avenge
not only Shingo's death but also to carry on the lineage
for his Shidoshi.
But I guess that was not really implied very heavily.
That was more like a, because they always talk about
how Chong Li killed somebody the year before in the Kumite
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and I was just like, I thought it was Shingo.
Why don't they ever just say that it was Shingo?
Yeah, that's what I always thought too.
Yeah.
So the music of Bloodsport.
It's the best.
It's so good.
It's so funny that you could give like an 80s rock band
a premise and be like, hey, we're doing a movie
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about a Kumite and they've just got,
Kumite, Kumite.
They just like.
But every 80s movie had a song,
whether it was like it had its own rap
or it had its own rock anthem.
That was so cool.
I wish people would bring that back.
I've been saying that for years.
Man, we need to have songs for every movie.
Soundtracks were huge for movies in the 80s and 90s.
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They helped sell the movies.
Yeah, and now it's like, who's buying physical media?
Who's, I mean, movies are so just like,
push them out, push them out
so we can get them to streaming
so we can make more money on them.
But yeah, the whole marketing behind it of like,
hey, we've got this like notable band.
We've got this like catchy song
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that is very simple most of the time,
but it's an earworm and it gets stuck in there.
I think what's cool too is,
it's usually the backdrop of one of those montages.
So like you said, like the lyrics are just very simple
or the song is very simple,
but what's happening on screen
and the music and all of it ties it together
and makes it just like a better thing.
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Exactly.
It's just like a good stew of.
Love it.
Yeah, so just taking a look at some of these characters here,
you had a young Forest Whitaker as CID agent Rollins
and he obviously went on to have
an illustrious acting career, Oscar award winner.
Ghost dog.
Right.
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This was Jean-Claude Van Damme's first movie,
is that correct?
I don't believe so.
I thought it was.
I thought it was like his first like big movie or whatever.
I think Kickboxer came out before this
and I believe there were a couple like low budget ones
he did before that.
I knew the low budget nonsense,
but I thought this was probably like his first big hit.
Yeah, he was like the lead role or whatever.
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Ray Jackson as a kid was always just the coolest.
He always reminded me of like a drunk uncle
that everybody had that was just like,
didn't really need to do anything other than show up.
So Janice, Leah Irez.
Whenever I was a kid, I was like,
that dude could do so much better than a reporter.
She was not attractive to me.
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She had like a weird horse face and like.
There's a lot of that when I go back and watch 80s movies
or like early 90s movies where as a kid I was like,
hubba hubba oh my God.
And then I watched as an adult I was like, man.
Yeah.
Like I know beauty standards change
and like fashion changes and stuff,
but sometimes even that it's just like, no.
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I also love that the one semi like salacious,
scantily clad nude scene is Jean Claude Van Damme
putting his underwear on and not her.
Gotta see those butt cheeks.
Yeah, I love that.
Just put a lot of work into those.
Also, if you're in the middle of kumite,
you're not supposed to be like having a relationship.
That's like a sap of your energy, right?
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Yeah, absolutely.
That's a big no no.
They should have not done that.
He shouldn't have won because of that.
Yeah, that's right.
The ancestors were not on the side.
So yeah, if you haven't seen Bloodsport,
it is a great 80s movie.
You've got several different martial arts
represented at the kumite.
You've got sumo, you've got Thai boxing,
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you've got karate, you've got taekwondo,
you've got a lot of different things
that are happening there.
And that really was, in my mind,
the precursor to the first UFC event.
Absolutely.
You know, when you go back and watch UFC One,
it's almost as if they took a little bit of Bloodsport
and they tried to like make it organized and sanctioned.
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And so you do see the different outfits in UFC One.
You do see that some people are wearing boots and shoes
and sumo outfits in full.
You know, the Gracies were in their full jiu-jitsu giis.
So some of that, I think, would be very, very cool
if we saw some of that back in the UFC.
I'd love to see that.
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I know that there's a lot of no gi competitions
and stuff like that, but I mean, when it comes down to it,
if you know how to use the gi,
you can use the gi as a weapon.
And also if you are fighting an opponent with a gi,
you can use the gi against them.
Exactly.
I think that some of that would make
some of these fights a little bit more interesting
as far as like we do have, you know,
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like Alex Poiton leaning into his tribalism
and his shamanism and stuff like that.
I would love to see, you know,
like what we could get out of that
as far as like a throwback,
maybe a throwback event or something like that,
where we have giis and sumo and different stuff like that.
But we love the UFC.
We talk about it all the time.
(27:46):
We'd be remiss to not make that connection there,
the very first UFC being kind of one of those things.
Also those, there were some more different promotions
that were doing more tournament style stuff
where last man standing,
I know like King of the Jungle down in Brazil,
that's kind of like one of those round robin tournaments
where like you're gonna fight three or four times
in a weekend and not necessarily like once every three months.
(28:07):
So endurance is a big thing whenever it came to kumite
and we don't get to see that as much
when it comes to like the professional sports.
Yeah, so Frank Dukes in real life,
there've been some freedom of information
packed requests against him.
Apparently he's never left the United States in his service.
(28:29):
He was not a CIA operative.
He did found a few schools in California
that were teaching his brand of ninjutsu.
But even to this day,
he's still making some of the boldest claims.
I saw the other day that,
I think it was maybe last month or a month before,
he had some grumblings in his schools
(28:51):
about who's taking over teaching
and a lot of people retired
and he kind of made his statement aware
that he is the only,
oh look, we have a guest.
Oh hey, what's up?
Welcome.
I'm a chocolate dealer.
Okay.
(29:12):
You getting a burger?
Awesome, well I'm gonna go cook some food
and let Renee keep going.
Sure, I'll keep going.
Yeah, so Frank Dukes was making some big claims
about him being the only real ninja outside of China
practicing in the United States
(29:32):
and so he's still on that shit.
If you haven't looked into him,
if you haven't looked into him,
all you have to do is Google or YouTube search
Frank D-U-X Dukes and you'll find out
that he really didn't go fight in the Kumite.
He doesn't really have all these records.
(29:53):
There's never been anyone really to corroborate
any of his stories.
Usually his stories fall apart under just
the most simplest of scrutiny.
There are some interesting things,
like I said, that he did do though.
He did found some schools.
He has his own brand of martial arts
that he kind of created, Dukes Rue.
(30:15):
So I believe he still has schools down in Mexico.
I don't think that he's still practicing
any sort of ninjutsu in the United States.
I think that we've kind of gotten over that.
So yeah, Bloodsport was based upon a story
that he told in martial arts magazines
and in black belt magazines.
Back in the 70s, there was not really anybody
(30:37):
to kind of challenge that sort of thing.
There was no internet around,
so there was no fact checking.
So once the editors got wind of this amazing story
about this CIA guy who traveled to remote islands
to fight in Kumite's with 60 rounds of people,
(30:57):
they just bought into it.
Hook, Line, and Singers, obviously.
It was a popular story with readers.
And so during this time,
Frank Dukes is telling the story
and writing these stories.
He is also teaching martial arts.
And so there are tales of him going around
and having encounters with people like Steven Seagal,
with people.
(31:17):
He's made some tales about him fighting
a younger martial artist.
I forget his first name.
I think his last name is Moore,
someone that actually fought Bruce Lee.
He fought him to a draw.
So there's just a lot of interesting facts
(31:38):
that just kind of get bigger and bigger and bigger
as you hear the tale of Frank Dukes.
But that doesn't hold anything against the movie.
The movie's still great.
We love it.
It's still part of our childhood.
Movies are...
One thing that I did wanna talk about
while he's making that burger
is in the middle of the movie to kind of try to,
(32:00):
I guess, prove he's worthy to be there.
Jean-Claude's character, Frank Dukes,
has to perform a dimach,
which is the touch of death or a death point strike.
And so he actually breaks the bottom brick
of maybe like six bricks stacked up on top of each other.
(32:21):
And so this is one of those things
that is kind of a lore legend in martial arts
is the death touch or the,
you pressure point touch somebody
and they take a few steps and then they just fall down.
And so I also thought it was cool
that there's a record label named Dimach,
(32:42):
Steve Aoki's record label.
And I always wondered if he got that from Bloodsport.
So yeah, to wrap up Bloodsport, great 80s movie.
If you haven't seen it, it's streaming on Amazon Prime.
So check it out there.
Like I said, there's some great actors in it
that have gone on to do other things.
(33:03):
You get to see different martial arts practiced
in the Kumite, great, great film.
We're gonna move on and talk about another film
that we've been talking about on the podcast
and also between each other as friends.
And that film is The Iron Claw.
If you haven't seen The Iron Claw
(33:25):
and you don't wanna know about the movie,
you can, I guess, probably skip forward
about maybe 10, 15 minutes.
We're gonna talk about that movie.
So The Iron Claw came out this past year, 2023.
It is a biopic drama
about the real life Von Erich family.
(33:48):
The Von Erich family is wrestling royalty.
They are from around these parts up in Denton.
If you're a professional wrestling fan at all,
you will know about the Von Erichs.
They had several brothers
and even their father was involved
in professional wrestling.
(34:09):
Fritz Von Erich is the father.
Then you had Kevin and Carrie.
Who else is in there?
You have Kevin, Carrie, David, and Mike.
And those are their brothers in The Iron Claw.
There are some other brothers
that The Iron Claw leaves out of the film.
(34:29):
There's just a few, I guess,
just too much sadness all in one movie.
But the oldest brother died when he was a child.
And then they had a younger brother
who actually was not as big in stature as them
and took up the mantle of wrestling.
And then he also succumbed to his mental health
(34:53):
at the age of 21.
So there's a lot in this movie
when it comes to what happened with their family.
There's this whole thing of a curse.
There's just a lot of bad things
that happened to their family.
And they took a very dramatic and wide sweeping brush
(35:14):
to the nuances of all that were going on in their life.
But if you were around in the 80s
and you're around in the 90s
and you knew of the Von Erich family,
what you knew of them was that they were obviously
very talented athletes.
They were larger than life characters
(35:34):
whenever they came to professional wrestling.
They really came from a lineage of people
that were selling the sport.
Fritz himself was a wrestler and involved
in selling the shows around Texas.
And so it was almost like they were born and bred
to be professional wrestlers.
(35:55):
The big main character in the Iron Claw
obviously is Kevin Von Erich, played by Zac Efron.
You get to see the perspective of his life
and how he dealt with growing up with his father
and his brothers and all of the things
that were going on in their lives.
And Kevin is actually still alive and still wrestling
(36:16):
kind of promotionally.
If you were to Google, his sons are wrestling as well.
And so I've seen him pop out in some WCW events
in the past few years.
And he, with his signature no shoes, barefoot style
came out and he's still got the moves, man,
even in his old age.
(36:38):
So this movie did a great job capturing
what it felt like to be alive in the 80s.
Again, when we talk about music and we talk about,
kind of like montages of things,
you get a real nice kind of glimpse into the life
of like what it was like to live in a small town in Texas
(37:00):
in the 80s and 90s.
They were a little bit more well-off than some of us.
So they had a bigger house and bigger land
and that sort of thing and kind of access to cars
and whatnot, but I think the spirit was the same.
You had a lot of tragedy happen in this movie.
A lot of tragedy befell the family
(37:22):
for a myriad of different reasons,
be it mental health or be it drug usage
or the fact that they're just living in such a lifestyle
that is fast and kind of dangerous.
And so some of the things that you see
and that they deal with is you've got a brother
who is off to the Olympics and in the middle of him training
(37:45):
for the Olympics, the Cold War is happening
and the United States decides to pull out of the Olympics
so he doesn't get to participate there.
You've got brothers that are losing feet
and still coming back to perform.
You've got someone that had a shoulder injury
and whenever they were appearing with shoulder injury,
(38:05):
they had toxic shock syndrome.
And so all of these things are kind of like
befalling the family and it seems like
there's no real heir to the throne
when it comes to capturing this heavyweight title.
They really want this belt to come home
and so you kind of have to play it through
and see it through.
(38:26):
Like I said, I don't want to kind of give too much away
of the movie as far as the plot
and all of the things that happen in the movie,
but I think that, like I said, it's a great peek
into the world of professional wrestling.
If you have no idea about professional wrestling,
if you've never dipped your toe into that sort of thing,
this is a great peek into that.
(38:47):
If you don't know anything about the Von Erich family
and this is your first introduction,
I would suggest that you do maybe some YouTube deep diving
and see that they actually were a real family
that wrestled professionally and that this is just a movie.
So we have two movies.
One is Bloodsport based upon a complete and utter lie
(39:10):
that we love so, so, so much.
And then now we have the Iron Claw that we're talking about,
which is based upon a true story
that we're learning to love so, so much.
So we had Mr. Grey on and he brought that up
whenever it comes to his favorite wrestling and era.
And then my dad texted me the other day,
he was like, I just watched the Iron Claw,
(39:31):
you have to watch it.
And so I have a lot of people in my life
that have been watching it lately and bringing it up.
And so we decided that we wanted to talk about it.
While you're making Filsberger,
I talked initially about the Iron Claw
just to kind of give, I was just saying like,
it was a real good peek into
if you've never delved into professional wrestling,
(39:54):
specifically like if you didn't have any knowledge
of like 80s professional wrestling.
I was a great look into it.
The music was great.
They did a really good job portraying like
what it was like to be in Texas in the 80s.
Got a little hot fry actually.
Just the tragedies, you know,
(40:14):
really, really, you know, stacked up on that family
back to back to back in some of the weirdest ways.
And so I think it's cool to go back and we live in an age
where, you know, say this movie came out when we were kids,
we would have to go somewhere to find a video tape
to find the real, you know, Von Erich footage.
Whereas now you can just go to YouTube, type it in
(40:36):
and you can see the very fights they're talking about
happening, you know, just kind of so crazy.
I did that exact thing after watching this
because I knew about the Von Erichs, again,
didn't grow up in Texas.
And they were also kind of before my time
when I started watching pro wrestling
because I came in when, you know, Hulk Hogan, early 90s,
like WWF, WCW. So I wasn't super familiar
(41:01):
with the Von Erichs before I moved to Texas.
And then when I moved here, I heard about them.
I had friends who were huge wrestling fans.
And really in my early 20s,
it was kind of when I got familiar with the Von Erichs.
So yeah, seeing this and seeing everything put in this light.
And I had also watched the Dark Side of the Ring episode
(41:23):
about it, but like a few years ago.
So like having a base knowledge going into it was cool.
Watching it, the dramatization of it, it was heartbreaking.
It was so sad.
But then going and reading the actual story,
it's even sadder what actually happened
and the things that they didn't put in the movie.
Sure, yeah.
I kind of touched on that a little bit.
(41:44):
So I guess like the whole basis for the curse
was that their father, Fritz Von Erich,
assumed this Nazi character to be a heel
in professional wrestling, would dress up in the garb
with the swastikas and whatnot.
And so that was kind of the bad.
That's wild to think about.
(42:06):
The bad juju put on this family
was kind of like a little bit from that.
They didn't touch on that at all in the movie.
They didn't really touch on it all.
Like I was saying, the younger brother
that was like not as big as them
and kind of just smaller.
And so there was a lot of tragic things
that happened to that family.
But Kevin Von Erich is still alive, still.
(42:27):
Looks like, I was saying, if you type in his name in WCW,
there's a couple years ago he came out,
he still kind of got that little fire in him.
Is it his daughter that is or was wrestling?
And he's got two sons that are wrestling too.
That's crazy to go against the curse that way.
I guess if your dad is the only living Von Erich,
(42:49):
maybe you got the shaman on your side.
Yeah, what I was saying was cool is that
the first movie we talked about,
cult classic, not even cult classic,
just classic movie from the 80s,
but based upon utter complete bullshit.
And then you have this movie based upon,
I mean, just even so much truth
that they couldn't even put all the truth in the movie.
(43:10):
So if you're into fighting movies,
if you're into movies at all,
check out Iron Claw, check out Bloodsport,
totally different types of movies.
But that's why we're here, to talk about the violence.
And I've had my breakfast right now here.
Breakfast fries.
Breakfast fries, home fries.
(43:32):
So two things before we wrap up.
One, we talked about Ryan Garcia pulling out indefinitely.
I guess now he's saying that
after this racist tirade that he's gone on,
that he's, I guess he's going to rehab now or something.
I don't really know what for.
(43:53):
I mean, obviously, mental health issues.
Should have gone to rehab.
Personally, I think you should
get some sort of mental health diagnosis
so that way we can stop playing this game
of like, is he or isn't he?
Because as of right now,
it's just seeming like he's a crazy racist at the moment.
(44:15):
So he pulled out of that fight because he took PEDs
and now he's pulling out of boxing
because he's allowing his racism to show
and just kind of a sad tale from a talented young man.
So.
Yeah, real bummer.
I also wonder if maybe he had
some underlying mental health issues
and the PEDs exasperated those and,
(44:39):
you know, brought out the worst tendencies inside of him.
So boxing's kind of in a weird place right now.
You've got a lot of great up and coming fighters,
Gervonta Tate Davis, Bud Crawford,
all of these up and coming exciting fighters.
Somebody that gets thrown into that conversation a lot
is Shakur Stevenson.
(44:59):
He fought this past weekend and he won,
but it was one of those things where there are,
there's video circulating of he fought in his hometown
and people are booing him.
So you don't even have your hometown on your side.
He's fought and won three fights in a row,
but people are not really lining up to see his fights.
(45:20):
They're calling it boring, they're calling it defensive,
they're calling it, you know, a few different things.
So he, after his fight, said that he was gonna relax
and all of this stuff,
but now he's starting to get into some Twitter beefs
with people that are saying that he's boring.
And so it doesn't seem like he's relaxing.
It seems like he's taking everything super personally,
(45:43):
spending several hours online going at people
that are calling him boring and that sort of thing.
So not to jump over to another podcast,
but if you enjoy that sort of thing, Twitter beef,
it is what it is, it's a great podcast
and they're currently beefing with Shakur Stevenson
about the fact that they called him boring.
And he shot back some shots about the fact that he thinks
(46:06):
that it's funny that rappers are podcasters now
and just has zero idea of who he's kind of talking to
and that sort of thing.
And so podcasting and boxing is kind of coming together.
So I'd like to throw our hat in the ring.
I know Shakur Stevenson doesn't know who we are,
but you're boring.
So maybe you'll tweet at us.
(46:26):
Come find us on Twitter.
We're at Ray's Grill and we've got fries.
We're waiting for you.
So yeah, lots of fun stuff when it comes to the future
of the UFC.
We've got a couple of things to look forward to.
We've got the one that I'm particularly looking forward to
is the Noche de UFC.
(46:50):
It's the fight in September that will be coming up.
That will be broadcast live from the Sphere.
Oh, that's gonna be insane.
So we've got that coming up.
I think Jorge Masvidal is supposed to fight
Shale Sutton in boxing sometime soon,
even though Jorge Masvidal just got beat by Nate Diaz
this past weekend.
(47:10):
That was a fun watch.
If you're a fan of the UFC, Nate Diaz was a colorful
character in the UFC, him and his brother Nick.
And Jorge Masvidal was also a very colorful character
in the UFC.
They fought each other in the UFC and Jorge stopped him
(47:30):
because Nate has all this scarring on his face
and so he just opened up a lot of bleeding.
So they didn't really actually get a good fight in.
And so they boxed this past weekend and Nate put it on him
for the most part with a lot of volume.
It wasn't a lot of heavy punching,
but it was a lot of volume.
Jorge had a couple of nice counters with volume.
(47:52):
And so it was one of those things where a lot of people
called it a draw.
But Nate Diaz won scorecard wise.
That's good.
Yeah, so fun stuff like that's popping off all the time.
I think what's cool is that I think they had 18,000 people
there and so from my perspective, it seems like a lot
(48:12):
of people just would pay to see Nate do just about anything.
Hang out at a bar.
He's a brand name at this point.
So his post-fight press conference kind of perked
my ears up.
I asked him kind of what his next,
what's next for him, what is his goal?
He said that he wants to come back to the UFC
and he wants to win a belt.
(48:34):
Now we get trained.
So I think this is the sign to wrap it up.
So if you're Nate Diaz fan, it's good to hear
that he still has a goal to come back to the UFC
and win a belt.
Cause that's one thing he never did whenever he was
with the UFC is he never captured an actual belt.
And so he is 39.
(48:56):
I don't think that it would be, you know,
out of the realm of possibility for him to come back
within the next couple of years.
And he did call out Leon Edwards.
Leon Edwards is, I would say at least 15 years
younger than him, but they're both boxers.
And so that would be a pretty cool and amazing fight
to make happen if Dana really wanted to cash in
on the fact that Nate Diaz is still selling tickets
(49:19):
to the tune of 18,000 at his last boxing match.
So I think that the sport, combat sports
isn't a great place going forward.
We've got a lot of exciting things.
Pulling out is just a name that we've come to love
and kind of throw in there.
But I think that that is making these fights
(49:40):
a little bit more exciting.
So the more we see people pull out,
the more we get to see different types of fights,
different fighters, people stepping up on short notice.
And I think that that's kind of one of those things
where it's, I don't know if you're familiar with,
do you watch NBA at all?
A little bit, yeah.
So they've got this thing in the NBA right now
called load management.
And so what it is is your favorite NBA player
(50:01):
is not going to be playing 81 or 82 games a season.
They're probably gonna be playing like 60% of that.
And so on the games that they don't play,
they call that like they're having a load management night.
And so what it's doing is kind of saving some of the injuries
and some of the players are able to play
a little bit longer.
You have like Steph Curry, LeBron James,
(50:21):
they're about to be 40 and they're representing
the United States at the Olympics.
So that's kind of unheard of before.
I kind of see that similar thing happening in the UFC
where you have some of these fighters like Connor
that normally you'd go, broken pinky toe, throw me in.
I'm ready to fight.
But now you have some of these fighters that are like,
(50:41):
no, I'm not 100%, let me wait till I'm 100%.
There's plenty of fighters out there to kind of step up
and take my spots.
And so I think it's a good thing.
You're kind of seeing, we're not necessarily gonna wait
four years for Connor to come back and fight.
But I think that going forward,
you're gonna see a lot of these fighters
take their health into a consideration,
take maybe hopefully their mental health into consideration.
(51:02):
So that way they're able to fight longer
and longer and longer.
And we'll be able to see some of these things
like Nadia is maybe coming back to the UFC
to compete for a belt.
There's so much going on right now.
I'm so overstimulated, but you know what?
That's the way it happens here at Raze Burger.
Nonstop fun.
So thanks for having me, Parker.
(51:25):
We had to throw this together kind of last minute
just because we've got a lot going on in our lives.
I've had tummy bugs over at my house.
You've got two jobs working hard for the bacon.
So hopefully we can get this edited and up.
I feel just stopped by.
I'm pretty sure he's gonna make that happen.
So yeah, hopefully you guys have a good week.
Look forward to talking to you next week.
(51:46):
We're going to hopefully have a guest for you
that's super exciting and super gonna blow your mind.
So thanks for bearing with us on these past couple of weeks
of randomness and wackiness
and we'll get back on a guest schedule.
Well, right now we've got Thomas Stankin,
and he's our special guest.
Yeah, this is ridiculous.
So have a good week.
We love you.
(52:07):
Breakfast of Champions out.
Bye.
I'm sorry that you're straight up sorry.
And I'm sorry that sorry that I've bottomed out.
I stay, I stay, I stay
And the future
(52:29):
Take it out of my chest
because I was stoked because I just got this TV
(00:01):
and I had also just drank a whole bunch of cold brew
and hadn't eaten in like 12 hours.
I just screamed at the top of my lungs,
like a high-pitched shrill scream,
and Ava lost her mind.
She was just like, what are you,
like she was telling everyone,
because I'm always pretty just like mellow,
and so it blew her mind that I just like screeched
(00:25):
at the top of my lungs.
She was like, what happened on my lawn?
I saw, I think it was a YouTube video or something,
it was a wedding, and they had hired the original singers
of that jingle to come and recreate the jingle live
at the wedding.
Whoa.
And so there was even a guy reading the copy,
he's like, at O'Reilly Auto, right into the micro,
(00:47):
that's amazing.
And I was like, is it someone that paid that much money
or did they like, they're family members of the O'Reilly?
They should have had the Home Depot crew in there too,
get them both, the two most iconic jingles.
Do, do, do, do, do.
Blue Man Group performing that in the background.
Yeah.
Ugh.
["Forever Young"]
(01:09):
You're in big trouble though, pal.
I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast.
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
No.
["Forever Young"]
(01:48):
Welcome to season one, episode eight
of Breakfast of Champions.
We might have a little bit of buzz here,
I don't know where that's coming from, but.
Could be the TV.
Yeah, we're raw dogging.
Nah, it's cool, it's maybe the batteries, maybe whatever.
Welcome friends, this is Breakfast of Champions,
season one, episode eight.
We are coming to you live from Ray's Burger Shop.
(02:12):
Just Ray's Burgers.
Yeah, just Ray's Burgers.
So, we're doing a little live spot here
because our co-host Parker has taken over the counter here
and is making this spot his sandwich emporium
for lunchtime in Fort Worth.
I do burgers and burger accessories.
(02:32):
Looks really good, smells really good.
I'm excited to try one, maybe not right this second
on the podcast, because we have stuff to talk about,
but I've been wanting to bring the kids here, so.
Breakfast burgers, not really,
we just have regular burgers, but one day.
So, last time we talked, we had a little bit
of a shoot in the shit episode, it was more a funsies,
(02:52):
just kind of throwback to the beginning of the podcast.
We definitely talked about 303, UFC 303 a little bit,
just because that was coming up,
and it was one of those episodes
where it kind of coming to you in real time now,
and we're not banking episodes anymore,
so like this episode will come out on Thursday,
which is like the day after tomorrow.
(03:13):
So, UFC 303 just happened, Saturday, June 29th,
I know that wasn't this past weekend,
but we did talk about it before it actually happened,
and so, if you missed it,
and you're just solely relying on us,
if you missed it, we have a Wu-Tang Clan
playing in the background, so if you're hearing that,
that's kind of, we're setting the mood for the podcast,
(03:36):
we have violence on the screen,
right now we're training with the wooden forms,
this is an amazing training montage, Wu-Tang Clan,
would you say Parker Brothers?
No, so this is a Hong Kong connection, yeah,
Parker Brothers, the Wu-Tang board game.
That would be fun.
I would play that.
I'd play that.
(03:57):
You gotta get through all 36 chambers.
So the big fights we were talking about at UFC 303
that we were excited for, we talked about
Michael Venom-Page and Ian Machado-Garry,
or Ian-Garry-Machado, the gentleman that took his wife's
name and has moved to Brazil,
so Michael Venom-Page came out, and he's coming from
(04:21):
more of like a kickboxing karate stance world
where a lot of awkward angles, quick strikes,
and so if you caught that fight, you saw that
Ian-Machado-Garry basically played defense the entire time
and grappled the entire time, which is a very smart
strategy when it comes to someone that is an awkward
(04:42):
striker, if you're unfamiliar with where those angles
are coming from, you want that person as close to you
as possible, and if you can clench them or exchange them
grappling on the ground, you've neutralized that awkward
striking and the karate stance and all of that.
So Ian-Machado-Garry was very confident coming into it.
(05:03):
He just didn't play into the MVP trash talk
and all that stuff like that, and so it was very interesting
to see his game plan play out.
The crowd was not into it, they were booing the whole time
because they wanted to see action, but I think he played
it smart, he didn't buy into the trash talk,
he played the defensive game, he got that win under his belt
and he's onto the next one, and so I think that puzzle
(05:24):
Michael Venom-Page a lot, and I think that's the other thing
is you have to remember, you're coming into the UFC
where like 60% of the champions are gonna be
Dagestani wrestlers, so if you have no grappling,
if you have no wrestling, you might be a loser.
A loser.
It's crazy how much wrestling plays into it.
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That's something I talk about a lot is how I wish
I would have done wrestling in high school,
but I didn't want to get into the...
No rigs customers, just a...
Ah, darn.
Yeah, if you hear that little ring in the background,
it's because somebody's walking in, they could be getting
a burger, they could be getting a beverage from the
convenience store we're attached to.
This is awesome, I think we should just do all our podcasts
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here.
Cool with doing that.
Yeah, so it was kind of a boring fight in terms of
striking and whatnot, but he did neutralize Michael Venom-Page
very effectively.
The next one that I was excited to kind of talk about,
I don't know, did you see the Myra Buenosilva versus
Macy Shazan fight at all?
I did not.
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So Myra Buenosilva is accused a lot of being kind of like
a lazy fighter, she has all of the skills and techniques,
but it's almost as if when she gets in there,
she's undecided if she actually, she's like,
do I really wanna fight?
You know what I mean?
And so she holds back a lot.
So Macy Shazan is a decorated American fighter,
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she's kind of like one of those all American looking girls,
and she elbowed the shit out of Myra Buenosilva
in the second round and cut open a gash above her eyebrow
that you could literally stick a couple of fingers in,
it was that big.
And so, yeah, it was like one of those things.
So there was a doctor's stoppage there,
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there was a lot of blood, big old hole in her head,
and I did see a follow-up.
I think she got like 15 plus staples in her head,
in her eyebrow.
Yeah, so that whole part of your eyebrow was just
kind of stapled and sewn up shut
because it was just gashed open.
So that was one of the most brutal,
one of the more brutal elbows I've seen this year
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in UFC so far, and so that was kind of a cool one.
And so I don't know if you remember,
we also talked about that round robin of five fighters
in the one fight, and it wound up being Anthony Smith
and Roman Delizze.
The guy that stepped in with six days notice
beat the guy that stepped in with seven days notice,
or whatever it was.
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Insane.
So Roman Delizze, they both looked like they were in shape,
but not necessarily go 100% fighting shape.
And so it was kind of a, it was a compelling fight
in the sense of they didn't have very much time,
and you kind of got to see where you're,
the basics of fighting.
You still have a jab, you still have a hook,
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you still have to take down defense,
you still have to do all that stuff.
But some of those specialty things that you see
in some of those fighters that they develop in camp,
they really wanna work on taking somebody down,
or they really wanna submit somebody, whatever,
that really wasn't gonna happen in that fight,
because there was just no time for preparation.
Then you had Danny Gay and Diego Lopez
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was the co-main event.
Diego Lopez won decision, unanimous decision.
Danny Gay is the one that stepped in and fought
that same night I text you,
pulling out in real time.
So Brian Ortega woke up Saturday morning not feeling well,
and, or I guess it was late Friday night,
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Saturday morning not feeling well,
and so Danny Gay is already in training camp
because he had a fight two weeks from now, actually.
He was supposed to fight, I think, in July.
And so he text the brass at the UFC and said,
yo, I'm in town for the fights, I'm in shape,
I'm in training camp because I'm already ready to go.
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Like, let's save this card, let's save the fight.
And Saturday morning he weighed in, he weighed in.
I mean, he, and so poor Diego Lopez, he's like,
I'm gonna fight at 165, I'm gonna fight at 175,
I'm gonna fight at 150.
He didn't know.
So Diego Lopez had, again, props to Danny Gay
for stepping up on the same day,
but also props to Diego Lopez for being willing to tangle
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with whoever, whenever, at whatever weight class.
And so during the day of Saturday,
while the card was still kinda getting ready to start,
in the background of all of that was happening
was Danny Gay stepping up to fight,
Diego Lopez accepting the fight, them weighing in,
them getting the commission to approve the fight,
and it all happened right before showtime.
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And so right when we were starting to watch the UFC event,
they were talking about how all of this was happening,
and I was texting all my UFC friends, Parker and Jason,
I was like, pulling out in real time,
pulling out in real time.
So Brian Ortega pulled out on Saturday,
and Danny Gay stepped up.
So props to that fight, that was a cool fight to see,
just because of the background of all of that.
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And then obviously the main event was Alex Pereira
and Yuri Prohaska, and man, man.
Shaman prevails.
Yeah, black magic, shamanism prevailed
in a pretty astounding fashion.
I don't know, the first round at the very end of the round,
Alex pieced him up, and it looked like the fight was over,
but he got saved by the bell, he looked shaky getting up,
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going back to his corner, and then in the second round,
it was just no different.
Yuri looked perplexed, it was almost like
he couldn't understand what was happening.
I've sent you some videos post that.
He said he either needs to evolve or retire.
And so he is very, he's in a dark place right now.
He's in that sunken place where he believes,
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like he had his cross on, he was blessing himself
multiple times to protect himself
from this black magic stuff, and so spiritually,
I think that he's kind of questioning,
what is up with the fact that he should have been protected
by the blood of Christ against this black magic shaman
from Brazil, but that was not the case.
Black magic prevailed, dude knocked him out,
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and then, I don't know if you saw the,
someone's made like a post fight,
like a little highlight clip of him,
and it was Yuri being helped up by the refs,
and Alex looked at him, and he fell down again,
so that did not help to play into the fact
that it wasn't black magic.
So very, very great UFC 303.
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I know a lot of people might have been disappointed
by some of the fights not happening in that event,
i.e. Michael Chandler, Conor McGregor,
you know, maybe Jamal Hill and Khalil Roundtree.
Some people were looking to that,
looking to those events to really like,
make this card a thing, but I think that the fights
that happened were great.
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I was very impressed by the people
that stepped up to the fight, and so this Saturday,
we had Ms. Tracey Cortez pulling out to fight.
This lady right here, Rosnami Younis,
I've been intrigued since she first came into the UFC,
but there's kind of a creepy aspect to the fact
that her husband is her trainer,
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and they met when she was 14.
No.
And he's a little bit older than her,
so there's a little bit of creepiness there
of like, how long have you guys been doing that thing?
So yeah, he walks, I mean, he's in her corner
walks out with her, and they like,
give a little kiss before she fights,
and it's just like, oh, it's just a reminder
that that's the creepiness in the background there.
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That sounds like some Drake shit.
Probably a minor.
Tracey Cortez, she's a great fighter,
Hispanic obviously, she's, you know,
stepped in at short notice.
This gentleman right here, Santiago Ponsanubio,
is a very exciting fighter to watch.
He's kind of similar to like Stephen Wonderboy Thompson,
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or even like we were talking about Michael Venom-Page.
He's got that awkward tie, awkward angle stance
and stuff like that.
We've got Drew Dover versus Jean Silva,
Drew Dover's pretty boy.
He's one of those.
Johnny Cage from Mortal Kombat.
Yeah, he's a pretty cool guy though.
Gabriel Bonfim versus Angel Lusa.
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I don't know much about Mr. Lusa,
but he looks like he can handle business.
And then we've got some people,
Cody Brundage is fighting, Abdul Razak Alhassan.
Is this the gentleman that was over, Razak Alhassan?
I believe that's the gentleman that,
double check that in real time if you would.
So if that's the case, then Mr. Alhassan, Razak Alhassan,
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is the gentleman that was over at Fort Worth Float Company
with Kevin O'Malley getting some recovery.
Yeah, that is him.
He gave Kevin a nice little chop.
There you go.
Yeah, so if you don't follow Fort Worth Float Company
on Instagram, please go do that now.
Our buddy Kevin runs Recovery Center,
(14:20):
float tank, sensory deprivation float take pods,
cold blind and sauna.
And Mr. Alhassan was here for recovery.
And as a little gift, he gave him a nice little leg kick
that we've been talking about so much.
So that's gonna be a cool fight.
Vested interest in that.
We have some ties to the podcast on that fight coming up.
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So we'll be cheering for him for sure.
Screw you, Cody Brundage.
Let's see here, who else do we have here?
I wanna go back up.
Go ahead.
So Fatima here.
Yeah, she may be making her debut.
Okay, cause I was gonna say, again.
She's unranked, so she may be making her debut.
And once she does, so all these come from pre-fights.
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So this probably was from his last fight.
And then when they get to fighting this weekend,
when they come from like their pre-fight ceremonies
and all that stuff, they do promo fights
for the packages coming up for the TV,
but then they'll use those for their upcoming shots.
So if she hasn't fought in the UFC yet,
she's coming from another promotion.
She doesn't have any promotional shots.
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She'll get those this week,
whenever she shows up for fight week.
I'm just wondering if she's a distant relative of our Jordan.
Yeah, Jordan Klein.
Fatima, the Archangel, let's see.
She is fighting, oh wait, there's no info.
Yeah, she is.
She has two wins by knockout, one win by submission.
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She has 0.0 average fight time.
So we know nothing about her.
We'll learn if Jordan has a long lost sister.
Like the picture on this website kinda looks like
the girl from the ring when you're scrolling,
you're like, what is happening?
Yeah, that's pretty much all I wanna talk about
for this fight.
So yeah, so Saturday, check it out.
It's fight night, so it's free.
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If you have ESPN+, you don't have to buy a paper view
for this one.
So we're gonna move right along.
Parker, every single time we ask anybody
what their favorite Jean-Claude Van Damme movie,
the answer comes back inevitably,
Cinnamon Toast Crunch every single time.
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No, it comes back Bloodsport every single time.
I'm really shocked that no one has said Predator.
Because he was in the suit.
That's true.
So, but-
Little backstory info for you.
I actually, I've been thinking about this,
besides, and we're gonna get into Bloodsport,
but maybe we should just ask what the favorite
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like martial art or action movie is
because I love Jean-Claude.
I've watched, if not every movie he's been in,
most of them.
So that's why I put Jean-Claude.
But I do think that Bloodsport is his most,
probably his most well-known next to like Street Fighter,
but as far as like his highest quality,
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like most iconic, Bloodsport is always gonna be the one.
And it is, it's just, it's so good.
Yeah.
So Bloodsport is a movie that people know and love
from the 80s when anytime you think about martial arts films,
anytime you think about like action films from the 80s,
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action film stars from the 80s,
Bloodsport's gonna come up time and time and time again.
Like I said, I saw this movie when I was way too young.
Yeah.
I did not understand, you know, what was going on.
There's some cool things in this movie that,
that, there's some cool things in this movie
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that you don't think about as a kid.
So like one Kowloon Walled City,
the fact that that was like one of the only films
that was filmed in the Kowloon Walled City.
I hope as a child, you would never have an understanding
of why that's significant or important.
They're, I guess they're liaison,
tried to kind of give a little backstory into that
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with the secret agreement between the Chinese and whatnot.
So check that out.
If you have no knowledge of Kowloon Walled City,
there's a cool emo band that is named that as well.
They're not an emo band.
What are they?
I would classify them firmly in the noise rock,
but they border on like,
I don't even wanna call it sludge,
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like in the same vein as like neurosis to an extent
with like some more noise rock elements.
Fine, be definitive.
So yeah, the one thing that I kind of wanted to bring up
as far as like, I mean the whole Frank Dukes backstory.
Whenever I was a kid, there was no internet.
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So at the end of the movie, when you see that this movie
was based on the real life of Frank Dukes
and all of the records and all that stuff like that,
you're like, holy shit, Frank Dukes is a badass.
And then now that I'm 40 and we have YouTube
and all that hindsight, you realize that Frank Dukes
is nothing more than a con man.
Yeah, exactly.
But kind of cool movie out of it.
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Dude, we have one of the coolest movies out of it.
So the other thing that I didn't realize as a child,
I didn't put two and two together
just because I was like, oh, movies as a kid.
But how similarly some of the resemblances are
between Enter the Last Dragon and also Bloodsmoore.
Yes, absolutely.
So going back to that whole thing,
but what were your favorite parts of that movie as a kid?
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I mean, something as a kid, as an adult,
the training montage, I'm always a sucker
for a good training montage,
which is also why that question is in the lightning round
is because I love just watching a good training montage.
I mean, the final fight obviously is iconic.
The crazed look when he gets back up,
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the bloody nose, the like just, I'm coming for you.
And oh no, I'm gonna, sometimes I get the movies confused,
understandably so, but Bloodspoore and Kickboxer
came out like less than a year apart, very similar movies.
But I don't remember if it was Bloodspoore or Kickboxer,
the dancing scene where he's got the high-waisted pants
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and he's- That's Kickboxer.
Oh man, damn.
Well, that'll be for the Kickboxer episode.
Yeah, so as a kid, a couple of things that I remember
from like loving as a kid, first and foremost,
I loved the jacket that he was wearing,
like the Akira-like bomber type jacket or whatever.
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For some reason, when I see that jacket
or whenever I watched Akira and I liked that jacket,
I don't know what it is, but there's even some of that
in Kill Bill whenever you see, they go to Japan
and the crazy 88 and all of that.
But just that 80s fashion of like- It's so cool.
The shoulder paddy, kind of like bigger torso jacket,
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the sleeves that are puffier, that always stuck out to me
when I was a kid.
But I too also loved the montages as a kid.
And I liked the chase montage when I was a kid.
That was one of my favorite things whenever I was a kid
because I was like, they're gonna end up in the water.
But you know what I mean?
I think that this director and producer,
whoever made this movie, they're like king of montage.
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There's so many great montages whenever he initially goes
to pay respects to his Shidoshi.
He just walks in, looks at the sword
and then there's this great montage of how he met
his Shidoshi and what happened with his son.
Did you ever think that Shingo was the one that got killed
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by Chong Li and the Kumite the year before?
I did.
I did too.
Yeah, like that's kind of what I picked up on.
I always thought that and then I watched it again
the other night and I was like, why did I think that?
Because they could have easily made that connection
or whatever.
But whenever he goes to see Shingo's picture
and he's dressed in the martial arts garb,
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I always thought that that was the implication.
That's kind of why he had to go back and avenge
not only Shingo's death but also to carry on the lineage
for his Shidoshi.
But I guess that was not really implied very heavily.
That was more like a, because they always talk about
how Chong Li killed somebody the year before in the Kumite
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and I was just like, I thought it was Shingo.
Why don't they ever just say that it was Shingo?
Yeah, that's what I always thought too.
Yeah.
So the music of Bloodsport.
It's the best.
It's so good.
It's so funny that you could give like an 80s rock band
a premise and be like, hey, we're doing a movie
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about a Kumite and they've just got,
Kumite, Kumite.
They just like.
But every 80s movie had a song,
whether it was like it had its own rap
or it had its own rock anthem.
That was so cool.
I wish people would bring that back.
I've been saying that for years.
Man, we need to have songs for every movie.
Soundtracks were huge for movies in the 80s and 90s.
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They helped sell the movies.
Yeah, and now it's like, who's buying physical media?
Who's, I mean, movies are so just like,
push them out, push them out
so we can get them to streaming
so we can make more money on them.
But yeah, the whole marketing behind it of like,
hey, we've got this like notable band.
We've got this like catchy song
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that is very simple most of the time,
but it's an earworm and it gets stuck in there.
I think what's cool too is,
it's usually the backdrop of one of those montages.
So like you said, like the lyrics are just very simple
or the song is very simple,
but what's happening on screen
and the music and all of it ties it together
and makes it just like a better thing.
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Exactly.
It's just like a good stew of.
Love it.
Yeah, so just taking a look at some of these characters here,
you had a young Forest Whitaker as CID agent Rollins
and he obviously went on to have
an illustrious acting career, Oscar award winner.
Ghost dog.
Right.
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This was Jean-Claude Van Damme's first movie,
is that correct?
I don't believe so.
I thought it was.
I thought it was like his first like big movie or whatever.
I think Kickboxer came out before this
and I believe there were a couple like low budget ones
he did before that.
I knew the low budget nonsense,
but I thought this was probably like his first big hit.
Yeah, he was like the lead role or whatever.
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Ray Jackson as a kid was always just the coolest.
He always reminded me of like a drunk uncle
that everybody had that was just like,
didn't really need to do anything other than show up.
So Janice, Leah Irez.
Whenever I was a kid, I was like,
that dude could do so much better than a reporter.
She was not attractive to me.
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She had like a weird horse face and like.
There's a lot of that when I go back and watch 80s movies
or like early 90s movies where as a kid I was like,
hubba hubba oh my God.
And then I watched as an adult I was like, man.
Yeah.
Like I know beauty standards change
and like fashion changes and stuff,
but sometimes even that it's just like, no.
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I also love that the one semi like salacious,
scantily clad nude scene is Jean Claude Van Damme
putting his underwear on and not her.
Gotta see those butt cheeks.
Yeah, I love that.
Just put a lot of work into those.
Also, if you're in the middle of kumite,
you're not supposed to be like having a relationship.
That's like a sap of your energy, right?
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Yeah, absolutely.
That's a big no no.
They should have not done that.
He shouldn't have won because of that.
Yeah, that's right.
The ancestors were not on the side.
So yeah, if you haven't seen Bloodsport,
it is a great 80s movie.
You've got several different martial arts
represented at the kumite.
You've got sumo, you've got Thai boxing,
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you've got karate, you've got taekwondo,
you've got a lot of different things
that are happening there.
And that really was, in my mind,
the precursor to the first UFC event.
Absolutely.
You know, when you go back and watch UFC One,
it's almost as if they took a little bit of Bloodsport
and they tried to like make it organized and sanctioned.
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And so you do see the different outfits in UFC One.
You do see that some people are wearing boots and shoes
and sumo outfits in full.
You know, the Gracies were in their full jiu-jitsu giis.
So some of that, I think, would be very, very cool
if we saw some of that back in the UFC.
I'd love to see that.
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I know that there's a lot of no gi competitions
and stuff like that, but I mean, when it comes down to it,
if you know how to use the gi,
you can use the gi as a weapon.
And also if you are fighting an opponent with a gi,
you can use the gi against them.
Exactly.
I think that some of that would make
some of these fights a little bit more interesting
as far as like we do have, you know,
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like Alex Poiton leaning into his tribalism
and his shamanism and stuff like that.
I would love to see, you know,
like what we could get out of that
as far as like a throwback,
maybe a throwback event or something like that,
where we have giis and sumo and different stuff like that.
But we love the UFC.
We talk about it all the time.
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We'd be remiss to not make that connection there,
the very first UFC being kind of one of those things.
Also those, there were some more different promotions
that were doing more tournament style stuff
where last man standing,
I know like King of the Jungle down in Brazil,
that's kind of like one of those round robin tournaments
where like you're gonna fight three or four times
in a weekend and not necessarily like once every three months.
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So endurance is a big thing whenever it came to kumite
and we don't get to see that as much
when it comes to like the professional sports.
Yeah, so Frank Dukes in real life,
there've been some freedom of information
packed requests against him.
Apparently he's never left the United States in his service.
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He was not a CIA operative.
He did found a few schools in California
that were teaching his brand of ninjutsu.
But even to this day,
he's still making some of the boldest claims.
I saw the other day that,
I think it was maybe last month or a month before,
he had some grumblings in his schools
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about who's taking over teaching
and a lot of people retired
and he kind of made his statement aware
that he is the only,
oh look, we have a guest.
Oh hey, what's up?
Welcome.
I'm a chocolate dealer.
Okay.
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You getting a burger?
Awesome, well I'm gonna go cook some food
and let Renee keep going.
Sure, I'll keep going.
Yeah, so Frank Dukes was making some big claims
about him being the only real ninja outside of China
practicing in the United States
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and so he's still on that shit.
If you haven't looked into him,
if you haven't looked into him,
all you have to do is Google or YouTube search
Frank D-U-X Dukes and you'll find out
that he really didn't go fight in the Kumite.
He doesn't really have all these records.
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There's never been anyone really to corroborate
any of his stories.
Usually his stories fall apart under just
the most simplest of scrutiny.
There are some interesting things,
like I said, that he did do though.
He did found some schools.
He has his own brand of martial arts
that he kind of created, Dukes Rue.
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So I believe he still has schools down in Mexico.
I don't think that he's still practicing
any sort of ninjutsu in the United States.
I think that we've kind of gotten over that.
So yeah, Bloodsport was based upon a story
that he told in martial arts magazines
and in black belt magazines.
Back in the 70s, there was not really anybody
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to kind of challenge that sort of thing.
There was no internet around,
so there was no fact checking.
So once the editors got wind of this amazing story
about this CIA guy who traveled to remote islands
to fight in Kumite's with 60 rounds of people,
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they just bought into it.
Hook, Line, and Singers, obviously.
It was a popular story with readers.
And so during this time,
Frank Dukes is telling the story
and writing these stories.
He is also teaching martial arts.
And so there are tales of him going around
and having encounters with people like Steven Seagal,
with people.
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He's made some tales about him fighting
a younger martial artist.
I forget his first name.
I think his last name is Moore,
someone that actually fought Bruce Lee.
He fought him to a draw.
So there's just a lot of interesting facts
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that just kind of get bigger and bigger and bigger
as you hear the tale of Frank Dukes.
But that doesn't hold anything against the movie.
The movie's still great.
We love it.
It's still part of our childhood.
Movies are...
One thing that I did wanna talk about
while he's making that burger
is in the middle of the movie to kind of try to,
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I guess, prove he's worthy to be there.
Jean-Claude's character, Frank Dukes,
has to perform a dimach,
which is the touch of death or a death point strike.
And so he actually breaks the bottom brick
of maybe like six bricks stacked up on top of each other.
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And so this is one of those things
that is kind of a lore legend in martial arts
is the death touch or the,
you pressure point touch somebody
and they take a few steps and then they just fall down.
And so I also thought it was cool
that there's a record label named Dimach,
(32:42):
Steve Aoki's record label.
And I always wondered if he got that from Bloodsport.
So yeah, to wrap up Bloodsport, great 80s movie.
If you haven't seen it, it's streaming on Amazon Prime.
So check it out there.
Like I said, there's some great actors in it
that have gone on to do other things.
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You get to see different martial arts practiced
in the Kumite, great, great film.
We're gonna move on and talk about another film
that we've been talking about on the podcast
and also between each other as friends.
And that film is The Iron Claw.
If you haven't seen The Iron Claw
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and you don't wanna know about the movie,
you can, I guess, probably skip forward
about maybe 10, 15 minutes.
We're gonna talk about that movie.
So The Iron Claw came out this past year, 2023.
It is a biopic drama
about the real life Von Erich family.
(33:48):
The Von Erich family is wrestling royalty.
They are from around these parts up in Denton.
If you're a professional wrestling fan at all,
you will know about the Von Erichs.
They had several brothers
and even their father was involved
in professional wrestling.
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Fritz Von Erich is the father.
Then you had Kevin and Carrie.
Who else is in there?
You have Kevin, Carrie, David, and Mike.
And those are their brothers in The Iron Claw.
There are some other brothers
that The Iron Claw leaves out of the film.
(34:29):
There's just a few, I guess,
just too much sadness all in one movie.
But the oldest brother died when he was a child.
And then they had a younger brother
who actually was not as big in stature as them
and took up the mantle of wrestling.
And then he also succumbed to his mental health
(34:53):
at the age of 21.
So there's a lot in this movie
when it comes to what happened with their family.
There's this whole thing of a curse.
There's just a lot of bad things
that happened to their family.
And they took a very dramatic and wide sweeping brush
(35:14):
to the nuances of all that were going on in their life.
But if you were around in the 80s
and you're around in the 90s
and you knew of the Von Erich family,
what you knew of them was that they were obviously
very talented athletes.
They were larger than life characters
(35:34):
whenever they came to professional wrestling.
They really came from a lineage of people
that were selling the sport.
Fritz himself was a wrestler and involved
in selling the shows around Texas.
And so it was almost like they were born and bred
to be professional wrestlers.
(35:55):
The big main character in the Iron Claw
obviously is Kevin Von Erich, played by Zac Efron.
You get to see the perspective of his life
and how he dealt with growing up with his father
and his brothers and all of the things
that were going on in their lives.
And Kevin is actually still alive and still wrestling
(36:16):
kind of promotionally.
If you were to Google, his sons are wrestling as well.
And so I've seen him pop out in some WCW events
in the past few years.
And he, with his signature no shoes, barefoot style
came out and he's still got the moves, man,
even in his old age.
(36:38):
So this movie did a great job capturing
what it felt like to be alive in the 80s.
Again, when we talk about music and we talk about,
kind of like montages of things,
you get a real nice kind of glimpse into the life
of like what it was like to live in a small town in Texas
(37:00):
in the 80s and 90s.
They were a little bit more well-off than some of us.
So they had a bigger house and bigger land
and that sort of thing and kind of access to cars
and whatnot, but I think the spirit was the same.
You had a lot of tragedy happen in this movie.
A lot of tragedy befell the family
(37:22):
for a myriad of different reasons,
be it mental health or be it drug usage
or the fact that they're just living in such a lifestyle
that is fast and kind of dangerous.
And so some of the things that you see
and that they deal with is you've got a brother
who is off to the Olympics and in the middle of him training
(37:45):
for the Olympics, the Cold War is happening
and the United States decides to pull out of the Olympics
so he doesn't get to participate there.
You've got brothers that are losing feet
and still coming back to perform.
You've got someone that had a shoulder injury
and whenever they were appearing with shoulder injury,
(38:05):
they had toxic shock syndrome.
And so all of these things are kind of like
befalling the family and it seems like
there's no real heir to the throne
when it comes to capturing this heavyweight title.
They really want this belt to come home
and so you kind of have to play it through
and see it through.
(38:26):
Like I said, I don't want to kind of give too much away
of the movie as far as the plot
and all of the things that happen in the movie,
but I think that, like I said, it's a great peek
into the world of professional wrestling.
If you have no idea about professional wrestling,
if you've never dipped your toe into that sort of thing,
this is a great peek into that.
(38:47):
If you don't know anything about the Von Erich family
and this is your first introduction,
I would suggest that you do maybe some YouTube deep diving
and see that they actually were a real family
that wrestled professionally and that this is just a movie.
So we have two movies.
One is Bloodsport based upon a complete and utter lie
(39:10):
that we love so, so, so much.
And then now we have the Iron Claw that we're talking about,
which is based upon a true story
that we're learning to love so, so much.
So we had Mr. Grey on and he brought that up
whenever it comes to his favorite wrestling and era.
And then my dad texted me the other day,
he was like, I just watched the Iron Claw,
(39:31):
you have to watch it.
And so I have a lot of people in my life
that have been watching it lately and bringing it up.
And so we decided that we wanted to talk about it.
While you're making Filsberger,
I talked initially about the Iron Claw
just to kind of give, I was just saying like,
it was a real good peek into
if you've never delved into professional wrestling,
(39:54):
specifically like if you didn't have any knowledge
of like 80s professional wrestling.
I was a great look into it.
The music was great.
They did a really good job portraying like
what it was like to be in Texas in the 80s.
Got a little hot fry actually.
Just the tragedies, you know,
(40:14):
really, really, you know, stacked up on that family
back to back to back in some of the weirdest ways.
And so I think it's cool to go back and we live in an age
where, you know, say this movie came out when we were kids,
we would have to go somewhere to find a video tape
to find the real, you know, Von Erich footage.
Whereas now you can just go to YouTube, type it in
(40:36):
and you can see the very fights they're talking about
happening, you know, just kind of so crazy.
I did that exact thing after watching this
because I knew about the Von Erichs, again,
didn't grow up in Texas.
And they were also kind of before my time
when I started watching pro wrestling
because I came in when, you know, Hulk Hogan, early 90s,
like WWF, WCW. So I wasn't super familiar
(41:01):
with the Von Erichs before I moved to Texas.
And then when I moved here, I heard about them.
I had friends who were huge wrestling fans.
And really in my early 20s,
it was kind of when I got familiar with the Von Erichs.
So yeah, seeing this and seeing everything put in this light.
And I had also watched the Dark Side of the Ring episode
(41:23):
about it, but like a few years ago.
So like having a base knowledge going into it was cool.
Watching it, the dramatization of it, it was heartbreaking.
It was so sad.
But then going and reading the actual story,
it's even sadder what actually happened
and the things that they didn't put in the movie.
Sure, yeah.
I kind of touched on that a little bit.
(41:44):
So I guess like the whole basis for the curse
was that their father, Fritz Von Erich,
assumed this Nazi character to be a heel
in professional wrestling, would dress up in the garb
with the swastikas and whatnot.
And so that was kind of the bad.
That's wild to think about.
(42:06):
The bad juju put on this family
was kind of like a little bit from that.
They didn't touch on that at all in the movie.
They didn't really touch on it all.
Like I was saying, the younger brother
that was like not as big as them
and kind of just smaller.
And so there was a lot of tragic things
that happened to that family.
But Kevin Von Erich is still alive, still.
(42:27):
Looks like, I was saying, if you type in his name in WCW,
there's a couple years ago he came out,
he still kind of got that little fire in him.
Is it his daughter that is or was wrestling?
And he's got two sons that are wrestling too.
That's crazy to go against the curse that way.
I guess if your dad is the only living Von Erich,
(42:49):
maybe you got the shaman on your side.
Yeah, what I was saying was cool is that
the first movie we talked about,
cult classic, not even cult classic,
just classic movie from the 80s,
but based upon utter complete bullshit.
And then you have this movie based upon,
I mean, just even so much truth
that they couldn't even put all the truth in the movie.
(43:10):
So if you're into fighting movies,
if you're into movies at all,
check out Iron Claw, check out Bloodsport,
totally different types of movies.
But that's why we're here, to talk about the violence.
And I've had my breakfast right now here.
Breakfast fries.
Breakfast fries, home fries.
(43:32):
So two things before we wrap up.
One, we talked about Ryan Garcia pulling out indefinitely.
I guess now he's saying that
after this racist tirade that he's gone on,
that he's, I guess he's going to rehab now or something.
I don't really know what for.
(43:53):
I mean, obviously, mental health issues.
Should have gone to rehab.
Personally, I think you should
get some sort of mental health diagnosis
so that way we can stop playing this game
of like, is he or isn't he?
Because as of right now,
it's just seeming like he's a crazy racist at the moment.
(44:15):
So he pulled out of that fight because he took PEDs
and now he's pulling out of boxing
because he's allowing his racism to show
and just kind of a sad tale from a talented young man.
So.
Yeah, real bummer.
I also wonder if maybe he had
some underlying mental health issues
and the PEDs exasperated those and,
(44:39):
you know, brought out the worst tendencies inside of him.
So boxing's kind of in a weird place right now.
You've got a lot of great up and coming fighters,
Gervonta Tate Davis, Bud Crawford,
all of these up and coming exciting fighters.
Somebody that gets thrown into that conversation a lot
is Shakur Stevenson.
(44:59):
He fought this past weekend and he won,
but it was one of those things where there are,
there's video circulating of he fought in his hometown
and people are booing him.
So you don't even have your hometown on your side.
He's fought and won three fights in a row,
but people are not really lining up to see his fights.
(45:20):
They're calling it boring, they're calling it defensive,
they're calling it, you know, a few different things.
So he, after his fight, said that he was gonna relax
and all of this stuff,
but now he's starting to get into some Twitter beefs
with people that are saying that he's boring.
And so it doesn't seem like he's relaxing.
It seems like he's taking everything super personally,
(45:43):
spending several hours online going at people
that are calling him boring and that sort of thing.
So not to jump over to another podcast,
but if you enjoy that sort of thing, Twitter beef,
it is what it is, it's a great podcast
and they're currently beefing with Shakur Stevenson
about the fact that they called him boring.
And he shot back some shots about the fact that he thinks
(46:06):
that it's funny that rappers are podcasters now
and just has zero idea of who he's kind of talking to
and that sort of thing.
And so podcasting and boxing is kind of coming together.
So I'd like to throw our hat in the ring.
I know Shakur Stevenson doesn't know who we are,
but you're boring.
So maybe you'll tweet at us.
(46:26):
Come find us on Twitter.
We're at Ray's Grill and we've got fries.
We're waiting for you.
So yeah, lots of fun stuff when it comes to the future
of the UFC.
We've got a couple of things to look forward to.
We've got the one that I'm particularly looking forward to
is the Noche de UFC.
(46:50):
It's the fight in September that will be coming up.
That will be broadcast live from the Sphere.
Oh, that's gonna be insane.
So we've got that coming up.
I think Jorge Masvidal is supposed to fight
Shale Sutton in boxing sometime soon,
even though Jorge Masvidal just got beat by Nate Diaz
this past weekend.
(47:10):
That was a fun watch.
If you're a fan of the UFC, Nate Diaz was a colorful
character in the UFC, him and his brother Nick.
And Jorge Masvidal was also a very colorful character
in the UFC.
They fought each other in the UFC and Jorge stopped him
(47:30):
because Nate has all this scarring on his face
and so he just opened up a lot of bleeding.
So they didn't really actually get a good fight in.
And so they boxed this past weekend and Nate put it on him
for the most part with a lot of volume.
It wasn't a lot of heavy punching,
but it was a lot of volume.
Jorge had a couple of nice counters with volume.
(47:52):
And so it was one of those things where a lot of people
called it a draw.
But Nate Diaz won scorecard wise.
That's good.
Yeah, so fun stuff like that's popping off all the time.
I think what's cool is that I think they had 18,000 people
there and so from my perspective, it seems like a lot
(48:12):
of people just would pay to see Nate do just about anything.
Hang out at a bar.
He's a brand name at this point.
So his post-fight press conference kind of perked
my ears up.
I asked him kind of what his next,
what's next for him, what is his goal?
He said that he wants to come back to the UFC
and he wants to win a belt.
(48:34):
Now we get trained.
So I think this is the sign to wrap it up.
So if you're Nate Diaz fan, it's good to hear
that he still has a goal to come back to the UFC
and win a belt.
Cause that's one thing he never did whenever he was
with the UFC is he never captured an actual belt.
And so he is 39.
(48:56):
I don't think that it would be, you know,
out of the realm of possibility for him to come back
within the next couple of years.
And he did call out Leon Edwards.
Leon Edwards is, I would say at least 15 years
younger than him, but they're both boxers.
And so that would be a pretty cool and amazing fight
to make happen if Dana really wanted to cash in
on the fact that Nate Diaz is still selling tickets
(49:19):
to the tune of 18,000 at his last boxing match.
So I think that the sport, combat sports
isn't a great place going forward.
We've got a lot of exciting things.
Pulling out is just a name that we've come to love
and kind of throw in there.
But I think that that is making these fights
(49:40):
a little bit more exciting.
So the more we see people pull out,
the more we get to see different types of fights,
different fighters, people stepping up on short notice.
And I think that that's kind of one of those things
where it's, I don't know if you're familiar with,
do you watch NBA at all?
A little bit, yeah.
So they've got this thing in the NBA right now
called load management.
And so what it is is your favorite NBA player
(50:01):
is not going to be playing 81 or 82 games a season.
They're probably gonna be playing like 60% of that.
And so on the games that they don't play,
they call that like they're having a load management night.
And so what it's doing is kind of saving some of the injuries
and some of the players are able to play
a little bit longer.
You have like Steph Curry, LeBron James,
(50:21):
they're about to be 40 and they're representing
the United States at the Olympics.
So that's kind of unheard of before.
I kind of see that similar thing happening in the UFC
where you have some of these fighters like Connor
that normally you'd go, broken pinky toe, throw me in.
I'm ready to fight.
But now you have some of these fighters that are like,
(50:41):
no, I'm not 100%, let me wait till I'm 100%.
There's plenty of fighters out there to kind of step up
and take my spots.
And so I think it's a good thing.
You're kind of seeing, we're not necessarily gonna wait
four years for Connor to come back and fight.
But I think that going forward,
you're gonna see a lot of these fighters
take their health into a consideration,
take maybe hopefully their mental health into consideration.
(51:02):
So that way they're able to fight longer
and longer and longer.
And we'll be able to see some of these things
like Nadia is maybe coming back to the UFC
to compete for a belt.
There's so much going on right now.
I'm so overstimulated, but you know what?
That's the way it happens here at Raze Burger.
Nonstop fun.
So thanks for having me, Parker.
(51:25):
We had to throw this together kind of last minute
just because we've got a lot going on in our lives.
I've had tummy bugs over at my house.
You've got two jobs working hard for the bacon.
So hopefully we can get this edited and up.
I feel just stopped by.
I'm pretty sure he's gonna make that happen.
So yeah, hopefully you guys have a good week.
Look forward to talking to you next week.
(51:46):
We're going to hopefully have a guest for you
that's super exciting and super gonna blow your mind.
So thanks for bearing with us on these past couple of weeks
of randomness and wackiness
and we'll get back on a guest schedule.
Well, right now we've got Thomas Stankin,
and he's our special guest.
Yeah, this is ridiculous.
So have a good week.
We love you.
(52:07):
Breakfast of Champions out.
Bye.
I'm sorry that you're straight up sorry.
And I'm sorry that sorry that I've bottomed out.
I stay, I stay, I stay
And the future
(52:29):
Take it out of my chest
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