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Imagine the emotions stirred when a simple Barbie movie touches the core issues of body biases and societal expectations. That's what happened to me, your host, Christine DeFilippis, as I immersed myself in the film's brilliant marketing, powerful performances, and resonant themes. We're exploring how this movie brought to light the struggle against diet culture and the patriarchal standards that women grapple with daily. From toe-tapping dance sequences to America Ferrera's heart-piercing monologue, prepare to dive into a discussion that extends beyond the screen.
Barbie's world is not just about pink convertibles and dream houses; it's a reflection of our struggle and resilience. The movie's portrayal of the maddening standards we're subject to is a poignant reminder of the empowerment and beauty that lies in challenging these norms. We're going to dissect the movie's impactful moments: America's impassioned speech, the dance sequences, and more. Join me as I share my reflections on the movie and how it resonates with the overarching challenge of navigating life in its varied aspects.
As we wrap up our journey through the Barbie universe, we ponder the film's subtle yet profound messages. The celebration of aging, the beauty of adaptability, and the necessity to dismantle patriarchal norms and diet culture take center stage. In our quest for a more equitable world, these conversations matter. Together, let's be part of this change. So, get ready to challenge, reflect, and inspire as we delve into the impact of the Barbie movie.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Breaking Body Biases, a podcast about
health and fitness that's notcentered on your weight.
I interview fitnessprofessionals, dietitians and
wellness practitioners that takea different approach.
I'm Christine DeFilippis, yourhost, and I am a certified
fitness professional, a studioowner and the creator of
FitProEd.
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I've had my own history witheating disorders and very
disordered behavior around myfitness, and I want to change
the industry to make it muchmore inclusive and much more
accessible to all, and it startsright here on the podcast.
Join me every week as Iinterview amazing fitness
professionals and dietitians andpractitioners that are helping
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to destroy diet culture.
Let's take this journeytogether.
Welcome to episode 92 of theBreaking Body Biases podcast.
This is Christine, your host,and this week I am reviewing the
Barbie movie, and let me justsay this was probably one of the
most challenging episodes I'vehad to record, partly because of
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the emotions that came up forme as I'm talking about this
movie and like recapping it orreviewing it, because it's
affected me in such a deep wayand I've started to record it
that I've had to stop, and Iappreciate your patience as I
get this one out a little behindschedule.
It's really an interestingmovie and, again, it was
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emotional for me, but not inlike a sad way, or I just want
to express that.
It was like emotional, like Idon't.
It doesn't need to be negativeor positive.
It just pulled emotions from mein a way that made me reflect,
made me be filled with gratitudeand also make me want to really
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live my life to the fullest.
So I'm going to get into someof that today.
If you are someone that hatesspoilers and you have not seen
the Barbie movie yet, I will betalking about some of the things
that happened in the movie.
If you are on social media,you've probably heard about this
amazing monologue that Americafor gives during the movie, so
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some of it may be hard to stayaway from because, let's face it
, the marketing for this moviehas been extraordinary.
In fact, I want to take a pageout of their marketing textbook
and use it for my businesses,because they did an excellent
job of marketing this movie inso many ways it shows by the box
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office records that it set and,on top of it, it's really a
great movie.
It's going to be something thatpeople will see again and again
.
I can't wait for it to stream,but if you are someone that
hates spoilers.
Maybe save this for after youwatch the movie.
I'm not going to give too muchdetail like too much.
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I want to say spoilers.
I'm not going to give too muchaway the ending in particular.
I won't share the funny littleending.
You'll need to watch that onyour own and if you've seen it,
you know what I'm talking about.
But I will share some pointsthat I really loved about the
movie and why and how it'saffected me, and then also some
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things that maybe could havebeen done better, and it's kind
of why we have this podcast herethat we are trying to destroy
diet culture and there are somethings in the movie that I just
wish they would have done alittle bit better.
But again, great strides inwhat they've done and I'll get
into some of that in thisepisode.
So when this movie was firstbeing filmed and produced, I
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didn't think that this would bea movie that I would go and see.
I wasn't really into Barbies asa kid I had a madam Alexander
doll and I had cabbage patchdolls and I don't know.
I just I really wasn't into theBarbie craze.
But on top of it, barbie setsreally unrealistic, unattainable
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standards for us.
So I wasn't really vibing withthe thought that like, yes,
there's going to be a Barbiemovie and I'm going to dress in
pink and we're going to go seeit.
But again, partly because ofthe marketing but also partly
because the movie itself, thetheme of it, is not what I think
we all anticipated it to be.
It is definitely a look at thepatriarchy and why it's such a
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problem and there is so muchpositive feminism in it.
I know there's a lot of criticsaround this movie, in
particular conservatives thatare saying that we are
belittling men as if we haven't,as women, been faced with
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misogyny and the patriarchy formany, many years, decades.
So I think that's kind ofironic that all of a sudden men
are feeling threatened.
No-transcript On this podcast.
I'm sure if you're listening tothis podcast you probably don't
feel that way, so I don't evenhave to get into some of the
criticism.
That's completely pointless andnot relevant for us.
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But I will share some otherthings about the movie that,
again, I feel like could beimproved upon.
Now, I originally was invited toa pre-screening of this movie,
so I was really excited to seeit.
Like I said, once I startedhearing what it was actually
about and who was starring in it.
I was really excited so gotinvited to this pre-screening.
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That did not work out the PRcompany that was running this
Screening overbooked it and weended up just standing outside
the theater not being able toget in, so that was a bummer.
But I was able to get ticketson opening night and the
blessing in that is that I gotto take my mom and my cousin and
it was kind of a nice littlefun family night.
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And especially Because I'lltalk about this later on at the
end the end scene really Not theend-end scene, but right before
the end scene got me in a veryBig way.
Emotions really came out for me.
So I'll get to that in a littlebit Now.
As I said, I wasn't a hugeBarbie fan.
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I had my Madame Alexander doll.
But Barbie is a cultural iconfor over 60 years now.
So my generation, gen X, wegrew up on Barbies.
I remember my cousin havinglike the Barbie birthday album
and there were all these moviesand again, barbies were this
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doll, that that you aspire to,almost.
But you knew that like you werenever going to look like Barbie
.
I mean the measurements onBarbie were crazy.
I mean, who can look like that?
And it kind of set me up tohave again between Barbie and
all the unrealistic standardsthat society puts on young girls
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to look a certain way.
That's where it all started,but it was really interesting to
me to learn the real Point ofwhy Barbie was even created in
the first place, which I willget into.
One of the questions I get a lotis is this movie for kids?
Because Barbie was for kids,right?
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Well, it's PG 13, so you haveto use your judgment on whether
or not this is appropriate foryour kids that are younger than
13 or even older than 13.
Like you have to decide.
But I find that like I have afive year old so and he's a boy
and he's not even sat through anentire movie, so it's not for
him.
But I could see younger Under13s being able to watch this
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movie and enjoying it.
I don't know if the youngergeneration gets Barbie, like
it's a cultural I Con that we'vehad for decades.
So if you're younger, I'm notsure if I know a lot of friends
of mine that brought theirtweens and teens and a lot of it
.
They just didn't get.
They were just like I don't.
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I don't get it, but Anythingthat's like inappropriate,
especially if you have youngerkid, it just goes over their
head.
It's not like Blatant in yourface sexuality or anything like
that.
It really is so, so colorful.
The cinematography, the setdesign, like every like it just
visually Such a great movie.
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So it just really depends onyour child.
So, that aside, this movieTakes you on such a journey and
if you are a movie fan Sayyou're a movie buff and you love
watching all different kinds ofmovies You're going to be able
to pull out different referencesin this movie and this Podcast
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episode is not about comparingit to other movies, but you can
really go down several rabbitholes on like finding Easter
eggs in this movie, and it'sjust really interesting how
Greta really made this into avery, very interesting movie.
So I mentioned that as a kid Ireally wasn't into Barbie.
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I Remember having a madamAlexander doll.
That was my baby doll and Ithink it was in part because my
mom had my younger sister.
She was pregnant when I was six, born when I was seven, and I
used to carry around my madamAlexander doll and Sometimes put
it underneath my shirt to looklike I was pregnant, just like
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my mom, and then I wouldbreastfeed just like my mom
would do.
Just you know, lift up my shirtand just put that baby's face
right on my nipple and I wouldBe mimicking a lot of what my
mom was doing.
And that's how we played withdolls.
Right, we are babies, we wouldbe moms.
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We would emulate what our momwas doing or what moms did, and
that's Basically what dolls wereused for until Barbie.
So when Ruth handler designedBarbie, she wanted to give more
options for kids like myself Toplay with their dolls in
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different ways.
At the time, we could only bemoms, we could only emulate that
.
I mean, maybe we would playlike house, we'd play like going
shopping, but like always as amom, with our baby.
So with Barbie, barbie could beso much more than a mom.
Your Barbie could be president.
Your Barbie could be ascientist, a reporter, a doctor,
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so many things.
And it was just different and Ithink initially it was designed
to be Aspirational, beyond theaesthetic, like these Barbies
had Jobs that maybe women didn'teven have back then or it was
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not as known well, we definitelyhaven't had a woman, even now,
as president.
But Having a woman doctor orwoman scientist like they were.
You know, six years ago thiswas not as common and I think
that it gave little girls theidea that, yes, I can be
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anything that I want to be.
So initially, barbie had somegood goals, right, wasn't as
problematic as we kind of thinkit to be.
I mean, yes, aesthetically shewas one look and Just one option
of what women should aspire tolook like.
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So, yes, bad in that way.
But Barbie had a bigger goal andI think that's part of what the
movie was bringing out as well,saying like this is what in
Barbie land, women are Doing allthese things?
Women were the president.
Barbie land was a woman.
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Like I said, reporters, thelawyer, the doctors, the Supreme
Court all were women.
And it's kind of opposite ofwhat we've seen historically in
the world with with women.
Right, men had all thesepositions.
So it was just interesting tosee this on the screen and
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having this Empowerment withthese women that were doing all
these things.
And what I really loved, what Ireally loved about it, was that
at no time did they say this isBlack Barbie who is the
president.
It's just, this is thepresident and she happens to be
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black, but they don't even talkabout that.
So when we got to lawyer Barbieand you see a Barbie that is
Not your stereotypical Barbiewhich stereotypical Barbie was
the main character in this inthe Barbie movie.
But there were so many otherBarbies I but we've never seen
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larger Barbies.
They always had these reallyunattainable measurements.
So it was nice to see a largerBarbie and that not be her title
Cause.
Most of the time when you seesomeone that's a minority or you
see someone that isn't a largerbody or someone that has a
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different ability, we tend tolabel that as their thing and
that's not really their mainthing.
Like lawyer Barbie is lawyerBarbie and she just happens to
be a larger Barbie and just likestereotypical Barbie happens to
be a smaller Barbie.
I really love that.
I like the progress we've madein this area.
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Could there have been morelarger Barbies?
Yes, and it would have beenreally nice to see larger bodies
that weren't proportionate.
We tend to see larger like plussize models or actors always
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being proportionate and not justhaving like different shapes.
Like I'd like to see pearshaped.
I'd like to see an apple shapedBarbie.
I'd like to see differentshapes just like in the real
world and to see thatrepresentation and to not beat
yourself up as a kid and saylike, oh, I don't look like I'm
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supposed to look.
If we saw Barbies in alldifferent sizes and as a kid
you'd say like, yeah, we can alllook different, we can all be
different.
And if you've seen the movie,I'm gonna share.
One other thing that I reallyloved is weird Barbie.
I think if I would have playedwith Barbies, my Barbie would
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have been a weird Barbie.
I look back at when I had myMadam Alexander doll and I used
to draw on her and my momluckily took the time to send my
Madam Alexander doll to.
They have doll hospitals thatwill repair your doll and make
it look as new as it can look.
I mean, I did a lot of damageto my Madam Alexander doll
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Putting on makeup.
We didn't have access to makeup.
We would use markers andcrayons to draw all over your
doll.
And I have my Madam Alexanderdoll to this day and I always
thought I'd pass it on to mydaughter.
But maybe Niko will like havingMiss Madam Alexander one day.
But I had weird Barbie.
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If you've seen the movie youknow that Kate McKinnon's
character was weird Barbie andshe was always in those crazy
splits, because who hasn't puttheir doll in like a split and
just left it like that and drawnall over them to make them look
crazy?
And we thought we're making ourBarbies look beautiful because
we're like teasing the hair andputting makeup on it.
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But you know, I thought thatpart of the movie was hilarious
because I was one of the kidsthat would even though it wasn't
with a Barbie, it was with myman.
Alexander Doll would draw allover my dolls and my mom would
get so mad because I'm ruiningmy very expensive doll.
So that was really fun.
And then another part that Ireally liked was all the dancing
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.
If you're a fan of dancesequences in a movie, they had a
few that were really great.
I again can't wait for this tobe on streaming so I could
really watch it, learn thechoreography and do it in my
classes.
And the Dua Lipa song wasexcellent.
That was like kind of anopening when she's having a
party at our house.
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And then there was a scene withall the Ken's and the Ken's man
.
They were some good dancing inthat section Again, very funny
throughout it very well written.
And again, the costumes wereamazing, very cheesy, but so
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well done.
Now I'm gonna get into the twomost poignant parts of the movie
, as I found them to be, and ifyou are again not living under a
rock, you have probably heardof this.
First, with America for Heirscharacter giving this monologue
about the frustration that wefeel as women, like what are the
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expectations upon us?
To be perfect but not tooperfect, skinny but not too
skinny.
You can't talk about things,but you have to be like
assertive but not too assertive.
And it was a really well donescene, well written, and if
you're anything like me, youwere probably talking back to
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the screen, going yeah, oh myGod, yes, yes, and saying like
amen and right, along with youand just agreeing.
So the premise of the wholemovie is that something's wrong
with Barbie, because whoever'splaying with Barbie in the real
world, because they live in thisBarbie land, someone is playing
with Barbie and making Barbienot be Barbie anymore, like
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weird.
Barbie is crazy looking anddoing splits all the time,
because whoever her owner in thereal world is playing with her
and making her weird right.
So someone is playing withstereotypical Barbie, who is
America for Eris character andshe is starting to be sad, and
that's not normal for Barbie.
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Barbie lives in perfect world,with perfect hair and perfect
feelings and everything isperfect.
And she's starting to feel notso perfect.
So she is challenged to go outinto the real world and find her
person that's playing with herand in the process, ken goes and
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Ken discovers the patriarchy inCalifornia and decides wow,
this is fantastic, ken is justan accessory in Barbie land.
Roll reversal here, right, andhe brings patriarchy back.
At the same time, barbie goesback with America for Eris and
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her daughter and they aresurprised to find that the
patriarchy has now overtakenBarbie land and all the Barbies
have been brainwashed.
And this scene with Americareally is the point where
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they're able to get to all theBarbies that have been
brainwashed and make themrealize that you don't need to
be an accessory Like.
We have the power here.
So it was really a great sceneand, although I'm not an actor,
just in case you haven't seenthe movie or just in case you
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want to hear it one more time, Iam going to share with you the
speech in this entirety fromthis section of the movie.
And again, if you're not a fanof spoilers, you probably
shouldn't still be listening,but I am going to share with you
my rendition of America'sspeech, cause I really feel like
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, wow, this is a powerful speechand you have likely seen it all
over social media, because Ihave seen it all over social
media and I'm going to share myinside the actor studio with
Christine and remember, I'm notan actor, but this speech really
got me.
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It is literally impossible to bea woman.
You are so beautiful and sosmart and it kills me that you
don't think you're good enough.
Like we have to always beextraordinary, but somehow we're
always doing it wrong.
You have to be thin, but nottoo thin, and you can never say
you want to be thin.
You have to say that you wantto be healthy, but you also have
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to be thin.
You have to have money, but youcan't ask for money, cause
that's crass.
You have to be a boss, butdon't be mean.
You have to lead, but don'tsquash other people's ideas.
You're supposed to love being amother, but don't talk about
your kids all the damn time.
You have to be a career woman,but also always be looking out
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for other people.
You have to answer for men'sbad behavior, which is insane,
but if you point that out.
You're accused of complaining.
You're supposed to stay prettyfor men but not so pretty that
you tempt them too much or thatyou threaten other women because
you're supposed to be a part ofthis sisterhood.
But always stand out and alwaysbe grateful.
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But never forget that thesystem is rigged.
So find a way to acknowledgethat.
But always be grateful.
You have to never get old,never be rude, never show off,
never be selfish, never falldown, never fail, never show
fear, never get out of line.
It's all too hard, it's toocontradictory, and nobody gives
you a medal or says thank you.
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And it turns out, in fact, thatnot only are you doing
everything wrong, but alsoeverything is your fault.
I am just so tired of watchingmyself and every single other
woman tire herself up into knotsso that people will like us.
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And if all that is true forjust a doll representing women,
then I don't even know.
End scene that just moved me somuch and I want to like just
read that every day to remindmyself that it really is
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impossible to be a woman in thisworld because of all of that
that I just said.
It's so powerful, because it'sso true that there's no winning.
There's no winning.
Too much, too little, it's justa mess.
It's unattainable, just likeBarbie's beauty standards.
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So it brought me to a veryemotional point, an empowering
emotion.
Like I said, not always everyemotion has to be sad, but it
just brought out emotions and weface this in all aspects of our
life.
In your career as a mom, if youhave a child too young, people
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criticize you for being tooyoung.
If you have a child too old,people criticize you for that.
If you go to work as a mom, ifyou don't work as a mom, if
you're not like doing all theactivities with your kids, if
your whole life is your kids,you're criticized.
I mean, you can't.
You can't win, and that's whythis speech resonates so much
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with so many people.
We see it.
We see it all the time.
So again, this is a part of themovie that I can't wait for the
movie to be streaming, becauseI'll watch this again and again
and I'd love to know what yourthoughts are on that.
How did that scene make you feel?
Did you want to just stand upand be like right on and like
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amen, and just it gave?
It gives you like a sigh, butthen at the same time, you're
like what can we do about it now?
Like we're saying these thingsout loud now, like we are
actually saying it out loudinstead of just thinking it in
our head.
And then the other scene thatreally moved me and in fact this
is the scene where I lost itand tears were just streaming
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down my face.
And even recording this, I'vehad to record this podcast a few
times because when I tried todo it immediately after the
movie, I was just so emotionalthat I found myself just unable
to get my point across as wellas just being able to talk
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without tears in my voice.
And so we're going to hopefullyget through this today.
But again, I've had to pause afew times with this episode
because it brought up so muchemotions for me.
And Rhea Perlman, who plays RuthHandler, is talking to Barbie
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at the end of the movie, andit's her words, combined with
Billie Eilish's song, which,mind you, I cannot listen to
that song without just crying,like if I am by myself.
I'm driving down the road and Istart listening to that song.
Tears will just start flowingdown my face and I can't control
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it, and I found myself reallyfeeling that way before I saw
the movie.
Like something in that songjust moved me for different
reasons.
And then, when I saw the movie,that combination of Ruth's
words, the song and the visualsthat are attached to this part
of the movie, just oh, mygoodness, if you didn't cry
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during that section or felt somekind of emotion because I know
not everyone is a crier, I findmyself crying more as I'm in
this perimenopause stage but Iprobably would have cried at
this when I was 20, when I'm 80,doesn't matter.
I feel like this just got me.
I think one of the reasons why Ilove this line is because it
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celebrates aging.
I think Ruth's character andthis movie as a whole celebrates
aging.
Ironically, the Barbie movie iscelebrating aging because
Barbie has kind of been theepitome of not aging Like Barbie
doesn't age, it's just a doll.
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And we spend so much money andsociety on anti-aging creams, on
doing exercises to keep ourskin tight and young, and we do
all these things to makeourselves look and feel younger.
And in this movie we'recelebrating the aging process
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and the beauty that comes fromaging, from living, from living
longer lives, because Barbie,you know, she doesn't age, she
doesn't feel, and as humans, wefeel all these things.
We feel the good and the bad,and we age.
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So I'm going to share with you.
Hopefully today I can get thisout without the emotions pouring
out.
But I can't promise anything,because I have tried to film
this, like I said, record this afew times and I really want to
get this out to you.
So if tears come out, then itwill be.
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I think actually, now that Ithink about it, maybe it's just
better to keep all the emotionsin, because that's the reality
of it.
That's how I feel, that's howthe emotions come and I'm sure
it's going to happen now.
So this is Ruth Handler'sconversation with Barbie.
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At the end that starts into theBillie Eilish song.
That starts into this videomontage of like videos and
pictures, and it starts withthis we mothers stand still so
our daughters can look back andsee how far they have come.
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And this quote still can't getit out.
Well, got me so much becausewhether you have a very close
relationship with your mom or astrained relationship with your
mom, or you are a mom, youunderstand this point, that
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you're striving, especially as amother, that you're trying to
make the world just a betterplace for your children, and
sometimes that comes withsacrifice.
And this scene, as I just thinkabout it, it brings up all the
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emotions again.
We're always moving forward,but eventually you have to let
go, let them flourish.
And it's such a unique gift tobe a mom and moments you just
think it's impossible, asAmerica brought out.
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It really is quite impossibleunder patriarchal standards.
But these words, these words iswhat got me.
And again you could have astrained relationship with your
mom, or maybe you don't have anyrelationship, or maybe you've
lost your mom, and this scenejust gets you the value between
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that mother and child, thatrelationship.
And I was there with my mom.
So again it brought out so manyemotions and it made me start
thinking about being the bestmom I can be, even when we're
faced with this patriarchalstandard that is impossible.
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It still makes me want tostrive to be the best that I can
be, while still maintaining myown joy and happiness.
Right, because that's importanttoo.
And this is where the emotionsreally set in, because at the
end of that quote, the BillieEilish song comes on that I had
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been listening to for a good twoweeks prior.
Thank you for watching.
That already had like emotionswithin me.
The song starts and there'sthese flashes of Barbies seeing
women Is all playing out beforeher.
There's like home movies ofmothers and daughters and it's a
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coming of age.
They're bonding, they'reblowing out birthday candles,
they're graduating from school,they're getting married, they're
becoming mothers themselves.
It's a transition fromchildhood to adulthood.
That montage with Billie Eilishsinging what was I made for Wow,
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it was a lot.
I can still feel it now.
It really envelops you.
It makes you so much morecompassionate.
I left change by this movie andI'm still changed today.
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I'm still feeling theseemotions now just talking about
it.
Like I can talk about otherparts of the movie and be fine,
be like happy, and oh, this isfunny and this was exciting and
this and that.
But when I get to this part ofthe movie get the tissues, all
the emotions come back up.
So how did you feel?
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I would love to know yourthoughts on it.
Is this making you wanna go seethe movie?
Is it gonna make you wanna gosee the movie again?
Do you have other parts of themovie that really inspired you?
It reminds me of another quotefrom the movie that I now think
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about a lot.
And Gloria, who is America forEarth's Character.
She says that's life, it's allchange, and you know what that
really is.
So true, and it's the beauty oflife, but it's also the
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challenge of life.
Right, that it's changing, thatwe have to be able to adapt and
we have to be able to getthrough those challenging times.
But then it also makes itexciting.
There are a lot of changes thatwe go through as humans and
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then, if we're parents or ifwe're teens right now, there's
gonna be so much more in yourfuture that you go through.
But as parents, we go throughso much.
We watch our kids go through alot, and it's growth, it's life,
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it's change.
What other parts of the movielanded with you or you feel that
should be talked about?
Let me know.
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This movie, I think, is going to.
Hopefully, not only is it gonnaentertain a lot of people and
bring up emotion, which I thinkis a great thing, but I think
it'll change a lot of things too.
I think it starts conversationsand it's broken box office
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records.
Greta Gerwig broke the boxoffice with $155 million in the
opening weekend.
It's the biggest debut of alltime for women directed film.
I think it's gonna reach morerecords.
I hope it wins a lot of awardsand I hope it again starts
conversations and gets ustalking about what things we
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could change.
Like I said, I would like to seemuch more diversity In film.
I've certain things I lovedabout what they did with it, but
more.
I want more of that, more ofdiversity, more of the leads
being all different bodies and,of course, I would like to
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destroy the patriarchy.
Not a real fan of thepatriarchy or capitalism, and
especially not diet culture.
So those are areas that we'realways looking to change.
At least have conversations,because that's the direction to
go when you want change.
Get more people talking, changehappens, and I hope you will
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join me on this journey ofdestroying diet culture and just
making not only our lives morehappy and joyful and, as America
for Errors says, like theimpossibility of being a woman
becomes more possible because wehave our unrealistic standards
that have been placed upon usremoved.
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So, on that note, I hope youwill let me know your thoughts
on Barbie and you'll also go seeit again, share your comments
and I can't wait to share abrand new episode with you next
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week.
Welcome to Breaking Body Biases, a podcast about
health and fitness that's notcentered on your weight.
I interview fitnessprofessionals, dietitians and
wellness practitioners that takea different approach.
I'm Christine DeFilippis, yourhost, and I am a certified
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disordered behavior around myfitness, and I want to change
the industry to make it muchmore inclusive and much more
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Join me every week as Iinterview amazing fitness
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to destroy diet culture.
Let's take this journeytogether.
Welcome to episode 92 of theBreaking Body Biases podcast.
This is Christine, your host,and this week I am reviewing the
Barbie movie, and let me justsay this was probably one of the
most challenging episodes I'vehad to record, partly because of
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the emotions that came up forme as I'm talking about this
movie and like recapping it orreviewing it, because it's
affected me in such a deep wayand I've started to record it
that I've had to stop, and Iappreciate your patience as I
get this one out a little behindschedule.
It's really an interestingmovie and, again, it was
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emotional for me, but not inlike a sad way, or I just want
to express that.
It was like emotional, like Idon't.
It doesn't need to be negativeor positive.
It just pulled emotions from mein a way that made me reflect,
made me be filled with gratitudeand also make me want to really
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live my life to the fullest.
So I'm going to get into someof that today.
If you are someone that hatesspoilers and you have not seen
the Barbie movie yet, I will betalking about some of the things
that happened in the movie.
If you are on social media,you've probably heard about this
amazing monologue that Americafor gives during the movie, so
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some of it may be hard to stayaway from because, let's face it
, the marketing for this moviehas been extraordinary.
In fact, I want to take a pageout of their marketing textbook
and use it for my businesses,because they did an excellent
job of marketing this movie inso many ways it shows by the box
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office records that it set and,on top of it, it's really a
great movie.
It's going to be something thatpeople will see again and again
.
I can't wait for it to stream,but if you are someone that
hates spoilers.
Maybe save this for after youwatch the movie.
I'm not going to give too muchdetail like too much.
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I want to say spoilers.
I'm not going to give too muchaway the ending in particular.
I won't share the funny littleending.
You'll need to watch that onyour own and if you've seen it,
you know what I'm talking about.
But I will share some pointsthat I really loved about the
movie and why and how it'saffected me, and then also some
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things that maybe could havebeen done better, and it's kind
of why we have this podcast herethat we are trying to destroy
diet culture and there are somethings in the movie that I just
wish they would have done alittle bit better.
But again, great strides inwhat they've done and I'll get
into some of that in thisepisode.
So when this movie was firstbeing filmed and produced, I
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didn't think that this would bea movie that I would go and see.
I wasn't really into Barbies asa kid I had a madam Alexander
doll and I had cabbage patchdolls and I don't know.
I just I really wasn't into theBarbie craze.
But on top of it, barbie setsreally unrealistic, unattainable
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standards for us.
So I wasn't really vibing withthe thought that like, yes,
there's going to be a Barbiemovie and I'm going to dress in
pink and we're going to go seeit.
But again, partly because ofthe marketing but also partly
because the movie itself, thetheme of it, is not what I think
we all anticipated it to be.
It is definitely a look at thepatriarchy and why it's such a
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problem and there is so muchpositive feminism in it.
I know there's a lot of criticsaround this movie, in
particular conservatives thatare saying that we are
belittling men as if we haven't,as women, been faced with
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misogyny and the patriarchy formany, many years, decades.
So I think that's kind ofironic that all of a sudden men
are feeling threatened.
No-transcript On this podcast.
I'm sure if you're listening tothis podcast you probably don't
feel that way, so I don't evenhave to get into some of the
criticism.
That's completely pointless andnot relevant for us.
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But I will share some otherthings about the movie that,
again, I feel like could beimproved upon.
Now, I originally was invited toa pre-screening of this movie,
so I was really excited to seeit.
Like I said, once I startedhearing what it was actually
about and who was starring in it.
I was really excited so gotinvited to this pre-screening.
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That did not work out the PRcompany that was running this
Screening overbooked it and weended up just standing outside
the theater not being able toget in, so that was a bummer.
But I was able to get ticketson opening night and the
blessing in that is that I gotto take my mom and my cousin and
it was kind of a nice littlefun family night.
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And especially Because I'lltalk about this later on at the
end the end scene really Not theend-end scene, but right before
the end scene got me in a veryBig way.
Emotions really came out for me.
So I'll get to that in a littlebit Now.
As I said, I wasn't a hugeBarbie fan.
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I had my Madame Alexander doll.
But Barbie is a cultural iconfor over 60 years now.
So my generation, gen X, wegrew up on Barbies.
I remember my cousin havinglike the Barbie birthday album
and there were all these moviesand again, barbies were this
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doll, that that you aspire to,almost.
But you knew that like you werenever going to look like Barbie
.
I mean the measurements onBarbie were crazy.
I mean, who can look like that?
And it kind of set me up tohave again between Barbie and
all the unrealistic standardsthat society puts on young girls
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to look a certain way.
That's where it all started,but it was really interesting to
me to learn the real Point ofwhy Barbie was even created in
the first place, which I willget into.
One of the questions I get a lotis is this movie for kids?
Because Barbie was for kids,right?
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Well, it's PG 13, so you haveto use your judgment on whether
or not this is appropriate foryour kids that are younger than
13 or even older than 13.
Like you have to decide.
But I find that like I have afive year old so and he's a boy
and he's not even sat through anentire movie, so it's not for
him.
But I could see younger Under13s being able to watch this
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movie and enjoying it.
I don't know if the youngergeneration gets Barbie, like
it's a cultural I Con that we'vehad for decades.
So if you're younger, I'm notsure if I know a lot of friends
of mine that brought theirtweens and teens and a lot of it
.
They just didn't get.
They were just like I don't.
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I don't get it, but Anythingthat's like inappropriate,
especially if you have youngerkid, it just goes over their
head.
It's not like Blatant in yourface sexuality or anything like
that.
It really is so, so colorful.
The cinematography, the setdesign, like every like it just
visually Such a great movie.
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So it just really depends onyour child.
So, that aside, this movieTakes you on such a journey and
if you are a movie fan Sayyou're a movie buff and you love
watching all different kinds ofmovies You're going to be able
to pull out different referencesin this movie and this Podcast
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episode is not about comparingit to other movies, but you can
really go down several rabbitholes on like finding Easter
eggs in this movie, and it'sjust really interesting how
Greta really made this into avery, very interesting movie.
So I mentioned that as a kid Ireally wasn't into Barbie.
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I Remember having a madamAlexander doll.
That was my baby doll and Ithink it was in part because my
mom had my younger sister.
She was pregnant when I was six, born when I was seven, and I
used to carry around my madamAlexander doll and Sometimes put
it underneath my shirt to looklike I was pregnant, just like
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my mom, and then I wouldbreastfeed just like my mom
would do.
Just you know, lift up my shirtand just put that baby's face
right on my nipple and I wouldBe mimicking a lot of what my
mom was doing.
And that's how we played withdolls.
Right, we are babies, we wouldbe moms.
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We would emulate what our momwas doing or what moms did, and
that's Basically what dolls wereused for until Barbie.
So when Ruth handler designedBarbie, she wanted to give more
options for kids like myself Toplay with their dolls in
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different ways.
At the time, we could only bemoms, we could only emulate that
.
I mean, maybe we would playlike house, we'd play like going
shopping, but like always as amom, with our baby.
So with Barbie, barbie could beso much more than a mom.
Your Barbie could be president.
Your Barbie could be ascientist, a reporter, a doctor,
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so many things.
And it was just different and Ithink initially it was designed
to be Aspirational, beyond theaesthetic, like these Barbies
had Jobs that maybe women didn'teven have back then or it was
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not as known well, we definitelyhaven't had a woman, even now,
as president.
But Having a woman doctor orwoman scientist like they were.
You know, six years ago thiswas not as common and I think
that it gave little girls theidea that, yes, I can be
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anything that I want to be.
So initially, barbie had somegood goals, right, wasn't as
problematic as we kind of thinkit to be.
I mean, yes, aesthetically shewas one look and Just one option
of what women should aspire tolook like.
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So, yes, bad in that way.
But Barbie had a bigger goal andI think that's part of what the
movie was bringing out as well,saying like this is what in
Barbie land, women are Doing allthese things?
Women were the president.
Barbie land was a woman.
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Like I said, reporters, thelawyer, the doctors, the Supreme
Court all were women.
And it's kind of opposite ofwhat we've seen historically in
the world with with women.
Right, men had all thesepositions.
So it was just interesting tosee this on the screen and
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having this Empowerment withthese women that were doing all
these things.
And what I really loved, what Ireally loved about it, was that
at no time did they say this isBlack Barbie who is the
president.
It's just, this is thepresident and she happens to be
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black, but they don't even talkabout that.
So when we got to lawyer Barbieand you see a Barbie that is
Not your stereotypical Barbiewhich stereotypical Barbie was
the main character in this inthe Barbie movie.
But there were so many otherBarbies I but we've never seen
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larger Barbies.
They always had these reallyunattainable measurements.
So it was nice to see a largerBarbie and that not be her title
Cause.
Most of the time when you seesomeone that's a minority or you
see someone that isn't a largerbody or someone that has a
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different ability, we tend tolabel that as their thing and
that's not really their mainthing.
Like lawyer Barbie is lawyerBarbie and she just happens to
be a larger Barbie and just likestereotypical Barbie happens to
be a smaller Barbie.
I really love that.
I like the progress we've madein this area.
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Could there have been morelarger Barbies?
Yes, and it would have beenreally nice to see larger bodies
that weren't proportionate.
We tend to see larger like plussize models or actors always
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being proportionate and not justhaving like different shapes.
Like I'd like to see pearshaped.
I'd like to see an apple shapedBarbie.
I'd like to see differentshapes just like in the real
world and to see thatrepresentation and to not beat
yourself up as a kid and saylike, oh, I don't look like I'm
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supposed to look.
If we saw Barbies in alldifferent sizes and as a kid
you'd say like, yeah, we can alllook different, we can all be
different.
And if you've seen the movie,I'm gonna share.
One other thing that I reallyloved is weird Barbie.
I think if I would have playedwith Barbies, my Barbie would
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have been a weird Barbie.
I look back at when I had myMadam Alexander doll and I used
to draw on her and my momluckily took the time to send my
Madam Alexander doll to.
They have doll hospitals thatwill repair your doll and make
it look as new as it can look.
I mean, I did a lot of damageto my Madam Alexander doll
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Putting on makeup.
We didn't have access to makeup.
We would use markers andcrayons to draw all over your
doll.
And I have my Madam Alexanderdoll to this day and I always
thought I'd pass it on to mydaughter.
But maybe Niko will like havingMiss Madam Alexander one day.
But I had weird Barbie.
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If you've seen the movie youknow that Kate McKinnon's
character was weird Barbie andshe was always in those crazy
splits, because who hasn't puttheir doll in like a split and
just left it like that and drawnall over them to make them look
crazy?
And we thought we're making ourBarbies look beautiful because
we're like teasing the hair andputting makeup on it.
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But you know, I thought thatpart of the movie was hilarious
because I was one of the kidsthat would even though it wasn't
with a Barbie, it was with myman.
Alexander Doll would draw allover my dolls and my mom would
get so mad because I'm ruiningmy very expensive doll.
So that was really fun.
And then another part that Ireally liked was all the dancing
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.
If you're a fan of dancesequences in a movie, they had a
few that were really great.
I again can't wait for this tobe on streaming so I could
really watch it, learn thechoreography and do it in my
classes.
And the Dua Lipa song wasexcellent.
That was like kind of anopening when she's having a
party at our house.
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And then there was a scene withall the Ken's and the Ken's man
.
They were some good dancing inthat section Again, very funny
throughout it very well written.
And again, the costumes wereamazing, very cheesy, but so
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well done.
Now I'm gonna get into the twomost poignant parts of the movie
, as I found them to be, and ifyou are again not living under a
rock, you have probably heardof this.
First, with America for Heirscharacter giving this monologue
about the frustration that wefeel as women, like what are the
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expectations upon us?
To be perfect but not tooperfect, skinny but not too
skinny.
You can't talk about things,but you have to be like
assertive but not too assertive.
And it was a really well donescene, well written, and if
you're anything like me, youwere probably talking back to
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the screen, going yeah, oh myGod, yes, yes, and saying like
amen and right, along with youand just agreeing.
So the premise of the wholemovie is that something's wrong
with Barbie, because whoever'splaying with Barbie in the real
world, because they live in thisBarbie land, someone is playing
with Barbie and making Barbienot be Barbie anymore, like
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weird.
Barbie is crazy looking anddoing splits all the time,
because whoever her owner in thereal world is playing with her
and making her weird right.
So someone is playing withstereotypical Barbie, who is
America for Eris character andshe is starting to be sad, and
that's not normal for Barbie.
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Barbie lives in perfect world,with perfect hair and perfect
feelings and everything isperfect.
And she's starting to feel notso perfect.
So she is challenged to go outinto the real world and find her
person that's playing with herand in the process, ken goes and
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Ken discovers the patriarchy inCalifornia and decides wow,
this is fantastic, ken is justan accessory in Barbie land.
Roll reversal here, right, andhe brings patriarchy back.
At the same time, barbie goesback with America for Eris and
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her daughter and they aresurprised to find that the
patriarchy has now overtakenBarbie land and all the Barbies
have been brainwashed.
And this scene with Americareally is the point where
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they're able to get to all theBarbies that have been
brainwashed and make themrealize that you don't need to
be an accessory Like.
We have the power here.
So it was really a great sceneand, although I'm not an actor,
just in case you haven't seenthe movie or just in case you
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want to hear it one more time, Iam going to share with you the
speech in this entirety fromthis section of the movie.
And again, if you're not a fanof spoilers, you probably
shouldn't still be listening,but I am going to share with you
my rendition of America'sspeech, cause I really feel like
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, wow, this is a powerful speechand you have likely seen it all
over social media, because Ihave seen it all over social
media and I'm going to share myinside the actor studio with
Christine and remember, I'm notan actor, but this speech really
got me.
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It is literally impossible to bea woman.
You are so beautiful and sosmart and it kills me that you
don't think you're good enough.
Like we have to always beextraordinary, but somehow we're
always doing it wrong.
You have to be thin, but nottoo thin, and you can never say
you want to be thin.
You have to say that you wantto be healthy, but you also have
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to be thin.
You have to have money, but youcan't ask for money, cause
that's crass.
You have to be a boss, butdon't be mean.
You have to lead, but don'tsquash other people's ideas.
You're supposed to love being amother, but don't talk about
your kids all the damn time.
You have to be a career woman,but also always be looking out
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for other people.
You have to answer for men'sbad behavior, which is insane,
but if you point that out.
You're accused of complaining.
You're supposed to stay prettyfor men but not so pretty that
you tempt them too much or thatyou threaten other women because
you're supposed to be a part ofthis sisterhood.
But always stand out and alwaysbe grateful.
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But never forget that thesystem is rigged.
So find a way to acknowledgethat.
But always be grateful.
You have to never get old,never be rude, never show off,
never be selfish, never falldown, never fail, never show
fear, never get out of line.
It's all too hard, it's toocontradictory, and nobody gives
you a medal or says thank you.
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And it turns out, in fact, thatnot only are you doing
everything wrong, but alsoeverything is your fault.
I am just so tired of watchingmyself and every single other
woman tire herself up into knotsso that people will like us.
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And if all that is true forjust a doll representing women,
then I don't even know.
End scene that just moved me somuch and I want to like just
read that every day to remindmyself that it really is
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impossible to be a woman in thisworld because of all of that
that I just said.
It's so powerful, because it'sso true that there's no winning.
There's no winning.
Too much, too little, it's justa mess.
It's unattainable, just likeBarbie's beauty standards.
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So it brought me to a veryemotional point, an empowering
emotion.
Like I said, not always everyemotion has to be sad, but it
just brought out emotions and weface this in all aspects of our
life.
In your career as a mom, if youhave a child too young, people
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criticize you for being tooyoung.
If you have a child too old,people criticize you for that.
If you go to work as a mom, ifyou don't work as a mom, if
you're not like doing all theactivities with your kids, if
your whole life is your kids,you're criticized.
I mean, you can't.
You can't win, and that's whythis speech resonates so much
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with so many people.
We see it.
We see it all the time.
So again, this is a part of themovie that I can't wait for the
movie to be streaming, becauseI'll watch this again and again
and I'd love to know what yourthoughts are on that.
How did that scene make you feel?
Did you want to just stand upand be like right on and like
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amen, and just it gave?
It gives you like a sigh, butthen at the same time, you're
like what can we do about it now?
Like we're saying these thingsout loud now, like we are
actually saying it out loudinstead of just thinking it in
our head.
And then the other scene thatreally moved me and in fact this
is the scene where I lost itand tears were just streaming
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down my face.
And even recording this, I'vehad to record this podcast a few
times because when I tried todo it immediately after the
movie, I was just so emotionalthat I found myself just unable
to get my point across as wellas just being able to talk
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without tears in my voice.
And so we're going to hopefullyget through this today.
But again, I've had to pause afew times with this episode
because it brought up so muchemotions for me.
And Rhea Perlman, who plays RuthHandler, is talking to Barbie
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at the end of the movie, andit's her words, combined with
Billie Eilish's song, which,mind you, I cannot listen to
that song without just crying,like if I am by myself.
I'm driving down the road and Istart listening to that song.
Tears will just start flowingdown my face and I can't control
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it, and I found myself reallyfeeling that way before I saw
the movie.
Like something in that songjust moved me for different
reasons.
And then, when I saw the movie,that combination of Ruth's
words, the song and the visualsthat are attached to this part
of the movie, just oh, mygoodness, if you didn't cry
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during that section or felt somekind of emotion because I know
not everyone is a crier, I findmyself crying more as I'm in
this perimenopause stage but Iprobably would have cried at
this when I was 20, when I'm 80,doesn't matter.
I feel like this just got me.
I think one of the reasons why Ilove this line is because it
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celebrates aging.
I think Ruth's character andthis movie as a whole celebrates
aging.
Ironically, the Barbie movie iscelebrating aging because
Barbie has kind of been theepitome of not aging Like Barbie
doesn't age, it's just a doll.
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And we spend so much money andsociety on anti-aging creams, on
doing exercises to keep ourskin tight and young, and we do
all these things to makeourselves look and feel younger.
And in this movie we'recelebrating the aging process
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and the beauty that comes fromaging, from living, from living
longer lives, because Barbie,you know, she doesn't age, she
doesn't feel, and as humans, wefeel all these things.
We feel the good and the bad,and we age.
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So I'm going to share with you.
Hopefully today I can get thisout without the emotions pouring
out.
But I can't promise anything,because I have tried to film
this, like I said, record this afew times and I really want to
get this out to you.
So if tears come out, then itwill be.
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I think actually, now that Ithink about it, maybe it's just
better to keep all the emotionsin, because that's the reality
of it.
That's how I feel, that's howthe emotions come and I'm sure
it's going to happen now.
So this is Ruth Handler'sconversation with Barbie.
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At the end that starts into theBillie Eilish song.
That starts into this videomontage of like videos and
pictures, and it starts withthis we mothers stand still so
our daughters can look back andsee how far they have come.
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And this quote still can't getit out.
Well, got me so much becausewhether you have a very close
relationship with your mom or astrained relationship with your
mom, or you are a mom, youunderstand this point, that
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you're striving, especially as amother, that you're trying to
make the world just a betterplace for your children, and
sometimes that comes withsacrifice.
And this scene, as I just thinkabout it, it brings up all the
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emotions again.
We're always moving forward,but eventually you have to let
go, let them flourish.
And it's such a unique gift tobe a mom and moments you just
think it's impossible, asAmerica brought out.
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It really is quite impossibleunder patriarchal standards.
But these words, these words iswhat got me.
And again you could have astrained relationship with your
mom, or maybe you don't have anyrelationship, or maybe you've
lost your mom, and this scenejust gets you the value between
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that mother and child, thatrelationship.
And I was there with my mom.
So again it brought out so manyemotions and it made me start
thinking about being the bestmom I can be, even when we're
faced with this patriarchalstandard that is impossible.
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It still makes me want tostrive to be the best that I can
be, while still maintaining myown joy and happiness.
Right, because that's importanttoo.
And this is where the emotionsreally set in, because at the
end of that quote, the BillieEilish song comes on that I had
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been listening to for a good twoweeks prior.
Thank you for watching.
That already had like emotionswithin me.
The song starts and there'sthese flashes of Barbies seeing
women Is all playing out beforeher.
There's like home movies ofmothers and daughters and it's a
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coming of age.
They're bonding, they'reblowing out birthday candles,
they're graduating from school,they're getting married, they're
becoming mothers themselves.
It's a transition fromchildhood to adulthood.
That montage with Billie Eilishsinging what was I made for Wow,
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it was a lot.
I can still feel it now.
It really envelops you.
It makes you so much morecompassionate.
I left change by this movie andI'm still changed today.
(32:37):
I'm still feeling theseemotions now just talking about
it.
Like I can talk about otherparts of the movie and be fine,
be like happy, and oh, this isfunny and this was exciting and
this and that.
But when I get to this part ofthe movie get the tissues, all
the emotions come back up.
So how did you feel?
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I would love to know yourthoughts on it.
Is this making you wanna go seethe movie?
Is it gonna make you wanna gosee the movie again?
Do you have other parts of themovie that really inspired you?
It reminds me of another quotefrom the movie that I now think
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about a lot.
And Gloria, who is America forEarth's Character.
She says that's life, it's allchange, and you know what that
really is.
So true, and it's the beauty oflife, but it's also the
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challenge of life.
Right, that it's changing, thatwe have to be able to adapt and
we have to be able to getthrough those challenging times.
But then it also makes itexciting.
There are a lot of changes thatwe go through as humans and
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then, if we're parents or ifwe're teens right now, there's
gonna be so much more in yourfuture that you go through.
But as parents, we go throughso much.
We watch our kids go through alot, and it's growth, it's life,
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it's change.
What other parts of the movielanded with you or you feel that
should be talked about?
Let me know.
Go over tobreakingbodybiasescom and leave
me a message, leave me avoicemail, leave an email.
Comment on our social media.
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This movie, I think, is going to.
Hopefully, not only is it gonnaentertain a lot of people and
bring up emotion, which I thinkis a great thing, but I think
it'll change a lot of things too.
I think it starts conversationsand it's broken box office
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records.
Greta Gerwig broke the boxoffice with $155 million in the
opening weekend.
It's the biggest debut of alltime for women directed film.
I think it's gonna reach morerecords.
I hope it wins a lot of awardsand I hope it again starts
conversations and gets ustalking about what things we
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could change.
Like I said, I would like to seemuch more diversity In film.
I've certain things I lovedabout what they did with it, but
more.
I want more of that, more ofdiversity, more of the leads
being all different bodies and,of course, I would like to
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destroy the patriarchy.
Not a real fan of thepatriarchy or capitalism, and
especially not diet culture.
So those are areas that we'realways looking to change.
At least have conversations,because that's the direction to
go when you want change.
Get more people talking, changehappens, and I hope you will
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join me on this journey ofdestroying diet culture and just
making not only our lives morehappy and joyful and, as America
for Errors says, like theimpossibility of being a woman
becomes more possible because wehave our unrealistic standards
that have been placed upon usremoved.
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If you like this episode, besure to give it a rating and
review and share it with otherpeople.
This is what helps grow ourcommunity, and if you're someone
that has feelings on this andwant to record a podcast with me
, an episode, please apply onour website, or if you know
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someone, that would be a greatguest.
We're always looking for greatguests to join our show.
So, on that note, I hope youwill let me know your thoughts
on Barbie and you'll also go seeit again, share your comments
and I can't wait to share abrand new episode with you next
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week.
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