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Pat (00:00):
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(00:41):
So it is just Alex and I thisweek.
Kyle got his schedules mixed upwith the Memorial Day holiday,
so he is off doing his thing,which is cool.
Alex and I are here and this oneis a specifically timed episode
due to an event that is comingup next week.
Alex and I are both headed toCisco live here in the States.
(01:04):
It is June 4th through theninth.
Actually.
Yeah, it's fourth through theninth.
I'm flying in Sunday, leavingFriday, and that's gonna be
cool.
It is in Vegas.
I think it was in Vegas the lastcouple years, if I'm not
mistaken.
It used to be in Orlando or theychange it up every now and then,
but the last couple years it'sbeen in Vegas.
So we are traveling there to sayhello and take in all the things
(01:28):
that are Cisco Live.
What's up Alex?
How you doing?
Alex (01:33):
Well, doing well.
Glad to be back.
I know we've been out a fewweeks and just like you
mentioned, I'm excited for CiscoLive.
Excited
Pat (01:41):
breached your contract.
You can't miss more than twoweeks, or I have to stipend
Alex (01:44):
I know
Pat (01:45):
we don't make anything, I ain't stipending shit.
So That's all right.
Alex (01:50):
That works.
Pat (01:51):
So, yeah, man we're pumped.
I'm pumped for Cisco Live.
It is my first time.
I've been working with Ciscogear for 20 years and I've never
gotten to go to Cisco Live, so,it's a cool moment for me, so
I'm looking forward to that.
So, totally ready and raining togo and Packing a bag this week
and hopping on a plane fromPhilly.
So I think it's like a five orsix hour flight, something like
(02:12):
that.
So I'll land in Vegas local timeSunday at noon.
I'm supposed to land, so we'llsee what happens there.
But I know a bunch of peoplethat are going and vendors are
all lined up.
Everybody wants to take me todinner, so I'm all about that.
So you mentioned a few weeks agothat your goal was to have a
vendor or somebody pay for yourmeal ticket the entire week.
(02:34):
Have you gotten that yet?
Have you secured that bag?
Alex (02:37):
I don't have anything scheduled, but I feel like I
have enough people that haveoffered that I shouldn't have
any issue doing it.
There's also the C C I E party Ijust got told is at Top Golf,
which is one of the coolestplaces that I know
Pat (02:51):
Ice.
Alex (02:52):
And this is one where I don't know if like you and Nate
have to arm wrestle for this,but I can take one person.
Pat (02:59):
Ah, yeah, I'll see if I can.
So the illustrious group ofCisco champions that we are,
that we belong to, there's abunch of ccis in there, so maybe
I can drag one of them to getto, to have me be their date.
So we'll see what happens, butthat's gonna be, that's gonna be
cool as well.
So there's actually a coupleCisco champions things that
they've carved out for us.
So I think Monday night is bansand beers and there's a couple
(03:22):
different things that we that USchampions have access to.
So we're looking forward tothat.
A night or two out happy hoursand yeah, they carved out their
own space for us, that kind ofthing.
So, I'm trying to get to, tryingto hang in that space there as
well in between sessions andthat sort of thing.
So really looking forward tothat.
I think our vendor has taken usto Topgolf one, one night, I
(03:42):
think that's on my calendar.
There's just so much on mycalendar.
I didn't even know what, like,what I'm doing.
I just like every invite that Iget, I just accept and then I'll
figure it out later.
It's just like, okay,
Alex (03:53):
Yeah, that's probably the
Pat (03:54):
this, I can scratch this, kinda.
So I'm really looking forward tothat.
I've never been to a top golf atall, so I'm looking forward to
that.
Fun fact, they're actuallyputting one here probably like
15 minutes from where I live.
So, that, that's being developedas we speak.
So I'm hoping to get a littletop golf action here in the next
couple of months when thething's built.
So it's gonna be cool.
So, yeah, I gotta, I got itplanned.
Most of the nights are plannedand somebody's either feeding me
(04:17):
food or putting a beer in frontof me.
So it's all good.
Alex (04:21):
Yeah, that is definitely good.
So I've been there a few timeshaven't been there since the
pandemic, so it's been a while.
First time for you.
know we joke about food, butrealistically that's, that is
something to look forward to.
But I have to ask you, assomeone that's never gone
before, is there anything that'sexciting you more than anything
(04:43):
else?
Pat (04:45):
I don't think so.
Just cause I don't really knowwhat to expect, so it just feels
like it's a huge party and abunch of stuff going on.
So I'm just looking forward togetting there and like whoever's
gonna, let me tag along like asad little puppy.
I'm all about it, so it's gonnabe cool.
So I, I don't really know if Ihave anything.
(05:05):
That sort of sticks out.
Like obviously, you pick yoursessions, you go and, you sit in
on schedules or I should say sitin on sessions and things of
that nature.
So I'm looking forward to acouple sessions, but there's
other things that are outside ofthose, learning hours that you
know, and from what I've, fromwhat I've read other blogs and
whatnot of people that have gonefirst time, like they, they
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really like the camaraderie ofthe people that they meet and
that kind of thing.
So I'm really looking forward tomeeting some folks and and for
me growing up on.
CCNA stuff and going all the waythrough ccmp and all those video
instructors through C B TNuggets and a couple other
platforms.
So, looking forward, I mean, Igrew up on guys like Keith Bark
and Anthony Secu and all thoseguys.
(05:48):
When to load him with his booksand things of that nature.
So if they're hanging out I'dlove to meet him.
And it's kind of like a fullcircle, moment for me.
So that's kind of cool.
So looking forward to that.
Alex (05:58):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's interesting for a few realnetworking geeks, like, I guess
we are, I kind of devoted ourcareers to it.
Some of these guys that we kindof cut our teeth on listening to
and reading when we first gotinto this game are almost like
many celebrities to us.
And I think I mentioned this onepoint, but when I was at Cisco
(06:20):
Alive in Orlando, which is fouror five years ago you mentioned
Keith Barker.
Scott Morris is another personthat I, back in 2006 and when I
was studying for the ccna, hewas one that I was reading his
books.
But yeah, I was in line gettingfood at the C C I E party and I
just heard something in, in thebackground, two guys talking and
(06:42):
without turning around, I waslike, oh my God, that's Scott
Morris.
I know it is.
And I turned around and he isright behind me and he is right
behind me talking.
And then sure enough he'stalking to Keith Barker and I
was like, wow, I listen to youguys all the time and you're
just right here.
Pat (06:55):
That's
Alex (06:55):
It was almost like a little, almost, I don't wanna
say I'm ashamed, but man, itjust really hits home that
you're a nerd when, I felt alittle awestruck
Pat (07:03):
to total fan girl in it right there.
Yeah.
Alex (07:06):
and I'm thinking like, can do I ask them to sign my book
or,
Pat (07:09):
crazy.
It's crazy.
So I guess I'll reverse thatsame question to you.
You have something that you'relooking forward to now?
You've cut your teeth on Ciscolive a couple years now.
Alex (07:19):
yeah.
Well, I mentioned it a few timesalready.
As a golfer and someone who hasgone to the c c E parties, I am
looking forward to top golf,which
Pat (07:29):
Nice.
Alex (07:30):
I know it's not really work related.
I'm not sure work would prefer Isay something else, but I guess
that's in my head.
I, as far as sessions go, Imean, I'll probably ask you the
same question if you wanna takea gander through your schedule.
We've been talking about italmost every week now.
We bring up ai and so I'm reallyinterested in a few of the
sessions that I schedule thatare really kind of focused on AI
(07:53):
for, but AI for networkengineers.
So there's actually a session Ihave on Wednesday that is
artificial intelligence andmachine learning for network
engineers.
Pat (08:06):
Hi.
Alex (08:06):
That's one that I'm pretty interested in.
And another one that kind ofgoes a little hand in hand with
that is predictive networks arethe future.
That's another session that's onTuesday, but um,
Pat (08:22):
that on Tuesday?
Alex (08:23):
that is at 1:00 PM
Pat (08:27):
Nice.
Alex (08:28):
so that one is similar.
The whole idea is we've heard ofself-healing networks before and
just, maybe gets a little scaryfor some people cause they feel
like they're not gonna be neededanymore.
But the whole idea where you'llbe able to just automatically
spin things up based on just usecases.
(08:49):
Like if a server starts usingmore traffic and then is
accustomed to your network candynamically build itself to
accommodate it.
And machine learning and AI isreally important with that.
It just gets a, an idea of, whatyour habits are and can.
Essentially build your networkon the fly as you grow.
And yeah, that'd be reallyinteresting.
(09:10):
So, as far as sessions goes, Ithink those are the two that I'm
looking forward to.
Outside of that, I have severalothers that are kind of focused
on automation and programmingand stuff, but for people that
are bit beginners like me, sonot very original, I think a lot
of people are interested inthat, that are classic network
engineers that don't wanna getleft behind.
(09:31):
So I have several of those.
Pat (09:34):
I get it.
I totally get it.
I have.
I have two as well that I'mreally kind of looking forward
to.
One, the first one beingend-to-end visibility and
actionable insights usingThousand Eyes DNA Center east
and SD wan.
So, obviously the big Cisco shopthat we are.
I'm kind of looking forward tothat, to kind of tie all those
together with the the thousand Iand the the Sdwan stuff.
(09:57):
So that's really gonna be coolfor me.
Like I like that one.
And then the other one I had wasthe software defined access
solutions, the fundamentals.
So again, it's more of a, it'smore of a beginner slash early
intermittent, early intermediatecourse.
But it basically goes from,software defined access kind of,
(10:19):
intent based automation, thatsort of thing.
So looking to, for scale and, etcetera, et cetera.
So, looking forward to that oneand seeing what what happens
there.
And I have one that'sinfrastructure as code for Nexus
and using Ansible.
So, again trying to get thatautomation and the usability in
there as well.
So looking forward to a coupleof those.
(10:39):
So, but I guess my question thenis, cause I've read a few things
different opinions on it.
I'll get your thoughts on ittoo.
And I actually took out a coupleof sessions in my schedule
because I literally had sessionupon sessions.
It's like, there's other thingsto do there.
So, do you, so what's your roughnumber of sessions that you're
going to, like, do you spread'emout?
And I've also heard that like,you really should only attend
(11:00):
the sessions that you likeactually have questions for, cuz
it's a little more enjoymentthat way and it's, interactive,
et cetera, et cetera.
So, is there a sweet spot for anumber of sessions and what does
that look like?
Alex (11:13):
Yep.
I think we were planning onlater in this episode maybe
going through some tips thatpeople have that, that I have,
that'll be my number one tip forpeople is don't go in there
assuming that all Cisco live isjust these breakout sessions and
you have to schedule from eightin the morning till six in the
evening every single day.
Cuz there's a lot more to it.
(11:33):
I mean, that's a big portion ofit and there's certainly fun to
be in those.
But you mentioned a good point.
The ones that you plan on askingquestions or the ones that might
be a little bit more hands-onand actually may have equipment
that you can follow along thoseyou should focus on because I
think all of these get recorded,so you, if there's anything that
you're interested, you could goback and look at them and it
(11:56):
does get a little exhausting.
I mean, Cisco live is a goodtime and if you're.
Doing nothing but these breakoutsessions, I can see people
getting a little tired of it.
So I do book, I pretty much gothrough the entire session
catalog every single day.
And I do book everyone that I'minterested in, which some people
will probably get really upsetat me because I think there's
(12:17):
finite amount of spots and oncethey're filled, you have to go
on like, the wait list whileyou're phys.
Pat (12:24):
a few that I had a wait list for.
Yeah.
Alex (12:26):
yeah, you get almost no one, they almost never get fully
booked up.
You just have to show up there.
And then after like thescheduled time, like, if
something starts at 10:00 AM andthen at 10:00 AM then it's fair
game for anyone who just showsup can just walk in if there's
seats available, which isusually there is.
But yeah, having said that rightnow, just the ones that interest
(12:47):
me, it looks like I roughly havefive or six a day.
I would say there's.
Under no circumstances am Igonna do more than three.
And I'd probably say that's mysweet spot is three and try to
break them up too.
Again, there's so much to dothere and and we could talk
about it from more detail.
But yeah, I would avoid back toback sessions.
(13:10):
So one in the morning, one afterlunch, and then a late one.
So, pretty much I have somethingscheduled at 8:00 AM every day.
I'll probably do all those.
Then I have one every day that'sright around one or two, and
then I have one every day that'saround four o'clock.
So that's probably gonna be whatI end up doing, unless there's
(13:30):
one that really just, strikes anerve with me, or if someone
convinces me that I have toattend it.
Pat (13:37):
Yep.
Yeah, I'm kind of in the sameboat.
I actually, like I said I tookaway a couple of sessions just
to break up the schedule alittle bit cuz I did, I, it was
back to back and like I, you, Iwould think you have some sort
of mental fatigue as you startto get later in the week,
Thursday and Friday you'reyou're spent, that kind of thing
from a, oh, how do I retain allthis knowledge and, whatever.
But yeah, I'm kind of in thesame boat.
(13:58):
Eight 30 most days.
And then I have actually I havea 10, so I have a 10 30 all days
and then late ones threeo'clocks, things of that nature.
So, tried to spread them out asmuch as I could.
They're, and like I said, I'mnot completely done.
Maybe I'll drop one or two ofthem, but the ones that I do
have are the large blocks.
They're like an hour and a halfsessions.
(14:19):
So those are the big boys.
So, really, looking forward tothose as well.
But I was just curious on, whatthat looks like from how much
shoes should be taken, that sortof thing.
Cuz like the world of solutions,from what I'm hearing, is a cool
place to hang and meet peopleand just, network, quote
unquote, no pun intended withother people and hey, how are
you?
And blah, blah.
And what I like too is being inthe second year of this, Champs
(14:41):
program, shout out to thechamps.
They become real people for theweek.
Cause you meet them in personand then, so that's always
interesting to me to meet thesefolks that you talk to, in
their, in our WebEx space.
And you various podcasts thatyou either listen to or take
part of from the Cisco ChampionsRadio.
But check those out if youhaven't.
But yeah just meeting thosefolks from a in-person
(15:03):
perspective is always a goodtime.
So looking forward to that andputting names with faces and
it's gonna be, it's gonna bereally cool.
So,
Alex (15:11):
A hundred percent.
I agree.
All right.
That's actually something Iprobably should spend a little
bit more time with.
I haven't really looked intoexactly what's going on for the
Cisco champions.
I know that seems like there'squite a few things they have
going on for us, but at thispoint haven't really taken
advantage of that designationyet.
So maybe I should spend sometime
Pat (15:32):
Yeah, like I said, I just accepted everything that Amy Lee
threw at us, and then I'll belike, I'll figure it out later,
but at least want it on myschedule.
And then I could weed out,what's what doesn't jive or
whatever.
So it's it's always interestingto fill what you can and kind of
go from there.
So, the other thought is I'mstaying at the Luxor, which is
attached, I guess to so CiscoLive is at the mgm MGM Grand.
(15:55):
So, And so Luxor is is the hotelthat is one of the hotels that
is connected to that.
But I, from what I'm reading,it's like a mile walk.
Like it's all inside.
Like you don't have to gooutside right?
Where whatever in the Las Vegasheat, but it is all inside, but
it is a mile or roughly around amile to and from.
So that's interesting as well.
So I'll be wearing somecomfortable shoes and some
(16:17):
lightweight clothing that not todrag me down.
So what is the attire there,Alex?
Is people like polos or I know alot of people think like dress
for comfort sort of thing cuzyou're doing a lot of walking
and swag and all that kind ofcrazy stuff.
Alex (16:31):
A hundred percent.
You want to dress for comfort.
Yeah.
No one's gonna be in there witha suit and tie on unless they're
trying to impress somebody.
No.
So I'm short T-shirts mostcomfortable shoes I have.
That's what I'm dealing with.
Cuz you're gonna do a lot ofwalking for sure.
There's a lot to see.
Just the what do they call it?
(16:53):
Is it the world of solutions orthe, whatever that main
showcased area is huge.
It's, and going, just makingyour rounds around that is
gonna, you'll probably takemiles as by the time you go up
and down, everything.
So yeah, be comfortable forsure.
Pat (17:11):
I gotta charge my Fitbit.
I'm gonna get all those stepsin.
Baby.
I gotta see, I gotta see myresults.
I'll come back like 10 poundslighter.
The wife won't even recognizeme.
Yeah.
So from what I'm reading there'sactually a space, depending on
what package you sign up for, alot of people take I think it's
the full explorer or whateverthey call it.
But basically it's you can takea, you can take any of the Cisco
(17:34):
exams that's part of yourpackage.
So, I actually do have thatpackage.
I'm trying to take the ccna,although I gotta contact them
because I never got theenrollment for the, to actually
schedule it through PearsonView.
So I gotta contact them and say,Hey can I get that link?
And I'll sign up or whatever andkind of, complete that last
hump.
So, but I'm interested to takecna, ccna, as most of you know,
(17:56):
all my Cisco stuff expired backin 2020 when I really wasn't
using it for the job I was at,and I just didn't see putting
all the time and effort tosomething I didn't use day to
day.
But but I'm gonna start teachingin the fall here at our local
community college.
So they, at the Cisco NetworkingAcademy, that they have the
program.
So, they do require you to becertified.
So I'm gonna try to get back tomy ccna.
(18:17):
And then I had the I actuallyhave the ccmp security with the
ice track that was planned.
So the CCNA is actually just abridge to that to get me
teaching in the fall.
So, yeah, definitely wanna takethe CCNA at Cisco live to free
crack.
I might as well.
I don't expect to fail, but seewhat happens.
But this is the first time atthe new version of the test, so
I interested to see how myskills have evolved and what
(18:40):
that looks like.
Cause it is a little differentthan when the one you and I
took, Alex, I took mine in 2013,and you took yours before that.
So it's definitely been througha couple revs, since then.
Alex (18:50):
Yeah, I took mine in 2007.
It's probably so foreign rightnow.
Pat (18:55):
So yeah, I'm looking to get that, see what kind of spots are
left to go get me to go get me accna.
So that's gonna be cool.
So, what else do you bring inAlex?
You bring in like a notepad aniPad for notes like usb, like ch
like a charging pack.
Keep your phone, juiced up orAdvil, Tylenol, any kind of
crazy medication.
Alex (19:16):
I probably should come more prepared, but yeah.
Backpack, notepad, laptop,headphones, and charger from my
phone.
I pack late.
I'm taking budget air, sowhatever fits in a backpack and
maybe three changes of clothesfor four
Pat (19:30):
Heck yeah.
Alex (19:31):
And yeah, that's pretty much it.
Again, you're gonna be walkingthere long days and really don't
want your backpack holding youdown.
Depending on the sessions I havethat day, there's probably even
times that I won't even bringthe backpack.
Like if I know that there'regonna be a couple sessions that
I'm doing that day that I doubtI'll need to take notes for then
(19:52):
yeah, I think I'll just go withjust to close my back and that's
it.
Make it
Pat (19:56):
Cool.
Alex (19:57):
a bit of a relaxing day.
And I think there they'll prob,based on the schedule, there
might be a day where Iintentionally choose not to do
any sessions or maybe just theone in the morning.
Because there's a few thingsthat I like to do when I'm at
Cisco Live and that, that arejust both informational and just
fun.
They almost always have somesort of game trivia games.
(20:18):
And I mentioned before, I thinkin another one of these
podcasts, I hadn't escaped theroom challenge the one year I
went where you escaped the roomby doing networking related
challenges.
That was kind of
Pat (20:29):
That's cool.
Yeah.
Alex (20:31):
They have real time demos which are really interesting
sometimes, especially if you canreally correlate it to something
you're doing at work.
So you can actually go and watcha realtime demo.
And I'm sure they're even moreinteresting with everything
related to AI and machinelearning and automation, what
(20:52):
stuff can do.
But I, the first Cisco Live thatI went to, this stuff was still
kind of in infancy.
And I remember seeing a demowhere somebody was using the.
Embedded event manager andanyone who's not familiar with
that, it's kinda like a built-inscripting thing that Cisco has.
And this was before, every Ciscodevice could do Python scripts
(21:12):
and things like that.
But what they were able to dowas so simple and an to explain
but it was just reallyinteresting to see it being
done.
And what they did was based on alog message, they were able to
send out an API call toServiceNow and automate it,
automatically make a ticket.
And back then, that was reallyinteresting to me.
(21:34):
Like, I mean, we're so farbeyond that at this point, but
for someone when that kind ofstuff was really in its infancy,
the idea that a log messagecould immediately trigger a
ticket to be generated, not onlydid they trigger the ticket to
be created, they also sent theoutput of several really
relevant show commands.
So not only did.
(21:56):
The network on call wouldpotentially get a structured
ticket in their ticketingsystem, but they'd also have,
the four or five commands thatthey were just bound to use
anyway.
And it's already there in aticket.
You can see it on your phonebefore you start doing anything.
And I bring that up justbecause, that was years ago.
Can't imagine what they're gonnabe showing in some of these
(22:17):
demos as things that aren'tquite hashed out yet, that it's
gonna be amazing.
I think I told you that I wasdoing the I forget what that
session's called.
Predictive networking, I thinkis what
Pat (22:27):
Oh yeah.
Predictive networks.
Yeah.
Alex (22:29):
Right?
I would love to see a demo ofthat, of maybe an idea.
They have a network and theytell you to break it
intentionally and then see ifthis thing can automatically fix
itself.
Something like that would bereally neat.
Pull cables, power somethingdown, try to put in a routing
loop.
See if this thing can figure itout.
And.
(22:49):
Cracked it.
That's the kind of stuff I'mlooking forward to
Pat (22:52):
Cool.
Alex (22:53):
for sure.
And I mean, having said allthat, I know you're new, but I'm
sure you've been kind ofgoogling things and reading
about stuff.
Is there anything like thatmight not be obvious, like a
session that, peaking yourinterest?
Pat (23:09):
I don't know.
It's just there's just a lot totake in, especially for the new
guys trying to work, gals tryingto, kind of do it right and
whatnot.
I just think there's so muchthere that, you just kind of,
hang with somebody that's kindof been there before and, a
little bit of the ropes and kindof, get you, gets you moving.
But a lot of my sessions aresdwan based.
That sort of thing.
(23:30):
I'm hearing some things too aslike part of the part of the
Cisco Champs things and whatnot,so, that are coming, or that are
supposed to be and that we haveaccess to them.
I'm excited about, but yeah, itseems like a cool thing that I'm
hearing, like that world ofsolutions, there's just, it's
just so massive and there's justa bunch of stuff to look at.
So I'm looking forward to justkind of getting my teeth into
(23:52):
that and meeting everybody Ican.
And who, who knows, and I'malways curious of like, the
downtime, not downtime, but likehow much time you have outside
of the Cisco realm.
Like, like the combination of,okay, you get there at eight,
you're gonna leave at five, orwhatever it is.
And then like, depending on thenights you have or the vendors
(24:12):
are taking you out, you're goingto happy hour and boom.
Like, is there like a day thatyou just.
That you just have to like hangin Vegas, like on Fremont Street
or just do something touristy inVegas?
Or is it all Cisco All the time?
Just cuz you're in that world.
Alex (24:27):
Well, you said you're leaving Friday.
It things really die down afterWednesday.
I think they have a kind of alimited schedule on Thursday.
Pat (24:36):
Huh?
Alex (24:37):
like if you look at your schedule right now, I'd probably
be surprised if you have a reallate Thursday thing, cuz I mean,
things are starting to, peopleare, shutting down exhibits and
things like that.
So Thursday's
Pat (24:47):
Yeah.
Alex (24:49):
the day where you might have a, an early morning session
and by then, since people arealready packing up, that's kind
of like your day to, all right,let's unwind, let's explore
before.
So,
Pat (25:03):
Yeah.
Thursday I have a one, my lastone is one to two 30.
Alex (25:08):
okay.
Yeah, I think that's, I have aone two as well.
So.
And don't be shocked if comelunch, you don't go back for
that one o'clock and you'relike, yeah, I'm done.
Pat (25:19):
Yeah,
Alex (25:20):
time to go gamble.
Pat (25:22):
Yeah.
Throw a couple bucks in themachine or whatever.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Alex (25:27):
The Vegas donations.
Sure.
Here.
Pat (25:29):
That's it.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm not a big gamblers.
I don't know, but like I, I'm ahuge hockey guy and the Vegas
Golden Knights are in the play.
They're literally in the finalsfor the Western conference.
So I'm curious to see, cuz Ithink they played the T-Mobile
arena, which is like rightthere.
So I'm interested to see if theif a game comes back there, if
(25:49):
I, if that would be awesome if Icould grab a ticket.
But that's gonna have to be anact of God to line up correctly
like that.
But we'll see what
Alex (25:56):
if you network of the right people.
I'm sure somebody has tickets.
Pat (25:59):
That'd be so cool if anybody's out there that's going
to Cisco live and there's andthere's the Golden Knights are
coming back and playing the gameat T-Mobile, holler.
They're at your boy dude needsto go.
Alex (26:11):
You know that the Gwen Stefani is the headline actor at
Legion Stadium.
We
Pat (26:18):
And I heard I heard her husband like, Shelton is coming
along,
Alex (26:21):
Yep.
And I don't know how this isgonna work out, and I can't
remember if I mentioned this ornot, but Jim Gaffigan is one of
the keynote speakers
Pat (26:30):
yeah,
Alex (26:31):
on Thurs or
Pat (26:32):
that.
Alex (26:33):
Yeah.
So I'm gonna go to that and I
Pat (26:35):
Hell yeah.
Alex (26:36):
I mean, does this guy know anything about networking or
care about technology in theslightest?
Pat (26:42):
I like Jim Gaffigan.
He's funny.
Alex (26:43):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that'll
Pat (26:45):
dude.
Alex (26:45):
interesting.
And,
Pat (26:47):
I'm interested to see what other Vegas life that I can kind
of at least add my, cause it'smy first time in Vegas ever, not
just for Cisco Live.
I've
Alex (26:54):
so that's a double whammy.
Pat (26:56):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Total double win.
So I'm looking forward to that.
So, yeah, it's gonna be cool.
So I'm interested to see whatwhat else is out there at least
people, different people tell medifferent things that they like
and whatnot.
Obviously the Hoover Dam is outthere and, all these museums and
for a couple years I was intothe show, pawn Stars, and on the
history channels it's superpopular.
(27:16):
So they're, they're in Vegas, sowho knows.
I'm just looking to do some coolstuff.
So see what happens.
Alex (27:22):
Yeah, for sure,
Pat (27:24):
I'm interested to see.
So Cisco has their I guess thisyear they're focused on like
sustainability.
So from what I hear, there's notgonna be a whole lot of swag or
at least a massive reduction ofswag that's gonna be given out
this, it's gonna be given outthis year.
So,
Alex (27:42):
You can't close on that.
Better note,
Pat (27:44):
I know, just curious to see what what what they give us and
or what's out there and whatnot.
Cause from what I've read, likeyou throw away over 90% of what
you, of what they give outthere.
So, just unless you can't wearit or if it really isn't serve a
purpose, a lot of people arethrowing it out.
So, shout out to my man Julio,who works with me.
He's a voice guy where I work.
That guy is like the king ofswag.
(28:05):
He comes back with literallysuitcase, full of swag.
He gets everything.
So he's coming with me againthis year.
So, or I should say he's goingagain this year.
He went last year as well.
So I'm curious to see what kindof swag he gets.
Cuz he is the notorious king ofswag in our.
In our department.
So I'm curious to see whathappens there, but nah, just
(28:25):
totally into the networking sideof it, the people networking
side of it.
Talk to as many people as I can.
Some really bright minds thereto see what they can what I,
well what rubs off on on me andmake me a little smarter.
So who, who knows.
But totally looking forward toit.
And so does the, for those ofthe, for those of us that are
coming from a different timezone does that really kind of
(28:48):
come into play of like, you getsome jet lag the first day to
kind of get on Vegas time?
Or is it just a adrenalinething?
You just rush rush.
Alex (28:56):
Well, since you're coming from the East coast you're gonna
make up sometimes.
So that'll probably work outwell cuz 8:00 AM sessions it'll
feel like 11 to you, so you'llprobably be pumped, already
beaten breakfast maybe checkedout the.
Luxor is gym, get the bloodflowing.
So, no, I think you're probablybetter off making the trip and I
(29:18):
think just about everyone'sgoing the day before.
I'm gonna be there Sunday aswell.
I think I'm landing at like sixo'clock or something like that.
So,
Pat (29:26):
Let's see.
It's 6:00 PM Local time there.
Alex (29:28):
Yeah.
It's only an hour flight for meand I couldn't check in until
four, so I just like, all right,well I'll just wait for, look
for the flight that gets methere as soon as after I can
check in.
Yeah.
So we'll have to make sure we dothat then.
Yeah, just bank on seveno'clock.
We'll go do dinner somewhere.
Pat (29:44):
That's to be cool.
Yeah.
I mean, also I wanna mention forthose of you that are going for
the first time Sunday at fouro'clock out there, there is an
actual session going on.
It's actually new to Cisco live.
It's like an orientation.
So it's, their tips, theirtricks, their, their
experiences.
Shout out to my boss, Evan, whois one of the presenters there.
(30:08):
So he'll be on stage given hisspiel.
And there's three other, threeother folks that are with him.
Just trying to, get you used toCisco live, if you're a newbie,
if you're a first comer, thatkind of thing.
So, don't be afraid to join thatas well.
Like I said, Sunday, fouro'clock I'll be landing there at
noon local time.
So I have that on my schedule.
(30:29):
I'll be joining and it'll beready to rock and roll.
So I'm looking forward to that.
And yeah, just looking forwardto taking it all in and I'm sure
the week will fly by.
They usually do so.
Alex (30:41):
And I know we already talked about it already, but
this is probably be a littleshorter than normal podcast
episode, so I thought maybe wecould even close with we kind of
just discuss our, just oursessions that we have booked in
its entirety real quick andmaybe that way people can
(31:02):
comment and say no, you gottamake sure that you join this
one.
Or if, hey, let us know ifyou're gonna be joining the same
sessions.
Pat (31:08):
one man.
We'd love to meet you for sure.
Alex (31:10):
because I'm curious too, it's one that I've been wi
meaning to ask you, and now Iknow too that you're gonna be
joining.
But I'm curious, did we happento overlap at all?
And then after we share ourschedule, I guess we can bid a
do and hope we meet some of thelisteners over there.
Pat (31:27):
That's it, that's gonna be cool.
So I guess, I guess I'll start,I'm the newbies.
So, Monday I got a eight 30.
It's an introduction to campuswired campus wired land
deployment using Cisco validateddesign.
So, it's a breakout session.
More of like an intro to say,Hey, these are some of the Cs
that, we recommend from a wiredperspective, branch that sort of
(31:50):
thing.
So looking that one 10 30 is thesoftware defined access
fundamentals.
So again, more of a newbie whenit comes to the SD access stuff.
So, looking forward to that one.
It's got a lot of zero truststuff built, baked into it.
So, zero trust is somethingwe're exploring as well, or,
getting better at.
So getting through the phasesof, so, that seemed to be
(32:11):
interesting and at least rightup my alley of what I'm working
on day to day.
So that's gonna be cool.
One o'clock is a SD access tothe external world.
So the flexible, secure way ofdeploying wire to wireless
campus network stuff using DNAcenter automation, things of
that nature.
That's more of an intermediatekind of thing.
(32:32):
So, looking forward to that oneas well.
I have a little, I have a shortone here, a short half hour.
But again this may be gooddropped just to me to go walk,
but more zero trust zero trustnext gen sassy solution, that
kind of thing.
So, it's like zero touch zerotouch, zero trust, that sort of
thing.
A lot of acronyms here.
So, and then the last one onMonday is en and enterprise and
(32:55):
WAN architecture.
So a lot of SD wan, a lot ofthousand I stuff in there.
Lar you know, stuff that's kindof geared towards larger
organizations.
Again, SD WAN thousand i's DNA nA center N P L S ed, data center
edge, that kind of thing.
So anything end to end from aaway.
Architecture perspective isthat, that's a, that's gonna be
(33:16):
a cool one too.
So looking forward to that.
And that's it for Monday.
What do you got for Monday?
Alex (33:20):
Well, surprisingly, doesn't look like we overlapped.
And,
Pat (33:25):
Damn it.
Alex (33:25):
Be honest, you ha you didn't sell me on anything.
So I don't know if I'm gonna beswitching over.
Pat (33:30):
Understood.
Understood.
Alex (33:32):
I'm starting off my Cisco live week with something that's
probably too introductory forme.
So maybe I won't end up doingthis one first, but it's
introduction to VX Land.
This is one that Nate's doing orwas interested in.
So I think that's part of thereason that I did it.
We use it heavily at Disney.
So I'm already pretty familiarwith it.
(33:53):
So
Pat (33:54):
Yeah.
Alex (33:54):
have some more advanced topics later in the week.
They're probably gonna be a bitmore interested, but sometimes
when you get in the weeds andyou go into environments that
already have things built andthey're working.
Sometimes it's not a terribleidea to go back to introductory
principles and then figure outif you're not actually doing
some
Pat (34:14):
make sure you're doing it right.
Alex (34:15):
It's just like, yeah, just cuz it works doesn't mean you
did it the way they think youprobably should.
So maybe I'll gain gainsomething there.
The next one is prettyinteresting.
It's just called UnleashingInnovation.
When I mentioned about a fewthemes of the sessions that I've
taken, I mentioned automation,machine learning, ai.
Been lucky enough with the lastfew positions that I've had that
(34:36):
they've had some prettyimpressive budgets.
So we've been able to kind of beon the bleeding edge of
technology.
So I'm also really interested injust, what the next five years
and tech are gonna look.
Not just things that are here,things I can't even buy yet.
So this unleashing innovation.
Is really just about the futureof Cisco technology.
(34:58):
So I'm just interested to see ifthere's anything that comes out
here that just might, kind ofblow my mind.
Talks of quantum networking isin there and some other things
that are really farfetched, butI think that'll be pretty
interesting.
After that I have Ansiblenetwork automation and get outs
for network operations.
Pat (35:19):
Cool.
Alex (35:19):
I said, anything that has to do with automation.
Ansible, this is an intermediarycourse.
I'm hoping that I'm strongenough now to maybe be able to
handle an intermediateautomation course.
So we'll find
Pat (35:32):
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Hoping you could hang.
Yeah.
Alex (35:37):
Yeah I keep getting more and more of it, so I'm hoping
that I can get to it.
Pat (35:41):
Cool.
Alex (35:41):
How to seamlessly automate.
Nexus OS and cloud networksthrough the Nexus dashboard.
That is also on Monday.
Again, that's new seeker.
We use Nexus a lot and again,just kind of falls in line with
automating and the Nexusdashboard is really just gonna
be a gooey that's think's gonnasimplify that for people that
(36:03):
aren't programmers by trade orcode Python daily.
I think that putting these frontend gooeys in front of it,
you're gonna allow you toaccomplish the same things that
you could but give you a meansto do it.
That's slightly simpler.
So I'm interested to see if Ican maybe even come back from
one of these sessions withsomething that I can suggest
(36:24):
that we push forward at work.
Cuz we talked about the Nexusdashboard at work
Pat (36:28):
Yep,
Alex (36:29):
No plans to use it
Pat (36:30):
did we.
Yeah.
So did we.
Alex (36:32):
maybe it'll convince me on one of these, which is, I mean,
that's why Cisco has theseevents, right?
If you leave going, I need thistechnology,
Pat (36:39):
Right?
Yeah.
They wanna sell you something.
Sure.
I get it.
Alex (36:45):
next is streaming telemetry on Cisco Nxs Nx os
again, another Nexus Ciscothing.
Streaming telemetry, just themore data you pull.
And again, with the whole AImachine learning, the more data
you have the more cool thingsyou can do with it.
So this is just how do I pulldata?
So hoping that I'll learnsomething simple and also kind
(37:08):
of, hoping that this'll I'llleave this with something that I
can, put forward is in motion atwork.
The other thing, note in, Ihadn't been mentioning it, but
in a lot of these sessions thatI'm taking, they are, they
qualify for continued educationcredit.
I don't, that's probablysomething we should have talked
(37:29):
about earlier.
For anyone who doesn't knowPretty much every course in here
that has a very specifictechnology, it's almost always
gonna be something that is goingto provide Cisco learning
credits, which, you can avoidPat's fate and Allow you
Pat (37:50):
yeah.
Avoid mine.
I do the wrong things,
Alex (37:53):
avoiding your certs expiring.
And then the final thing, whichI think I can convince you to do
this it's not even a breakoutsession.
It's in the Cisco U and they'rehaving CCNA trivia in the Cisco
Youth Theater.
And, There'll be some prizes andthings like that.
So,
Pat (38:12):
Cool.
What time is that?
Alex (38:14):
it's five 30, so it's one that, so wrapping up the day
with it.
So yeah, that'll be fun.
Pat (38:20):
cool.
That's cool.
Alex (38:22):
so that's my Monday, so hopefully I convinced you of one
or two of those, but if not, sobe it.
Pat (38:28):
That's cool.
Yeah, no just a note for sis,Cisco U is now open to
everybody.
So that, that's that was justthis past week.
So Cisco U is Cisco's newlearning platform.
So, go and check that out if youhave not done so already.
I did.
So we'll see if that comesacross my schedule start to use
that a little more heavily.
But yeah, Cisco U is now livefor everybody that chooses to to
(38:51):
take advantage of, so that'sgonna be cool.
So, Tuesday is where the keynotestarts, right?
The keynotes are Tuesday andWednesday.
So eight 30 on Tuesday is akeynote vision for the future.
So I'm curious to see what thatholds and what they kind of talk
about.
So that's a, that's an hour anda half or 10 30 is where I have
that one.
I was really interested in theend-to-end visibility with
actionable insights usingThousand Eyes, DNA Center, ice,
(39:13):
and SDWAN.
So, basically using DNA Centerintegrating with ice and Sdwan
to all sort of work together.
So, DNA Center uses or I shouldsay thousand eyes.
You can deploy thousand eyesagents with DNA Center that uses
N Bar and all kinds of crazyactionable insights that you can
get to date.
Get all that data and all thosestats on what you're what you're
(39:34):
doing end to end.
So that's gonna be cool lookingforward to that.
It's centered around iot devicesas well kind of securing those
and again, bringing those intothe DNA umbrella and that sort
of thing.
So that's gonna be cool.
And then obviously as it makesits way out to the SD wan,
you're seeing You're seeing itend to end through the sdwan
fabric.
So always look, that's gonna becool as well since d since SD
(39:56):
WAN is is an ongoing thing forus.
So it's gonna be, that's gonnabe cool too.
So again, hop by hop,visibility, performance metrics,
et cetera, et cetera.
So that's one I'm really lookingforward to there since that
Pushes a lot of buttons, or Ishould say checks a lot of boxes
for, a lot of my day to day.
So that's gonna be cool.
So, and then I don't really haveanything until three o'clock
(40:16):
that day.
So I have a morning andafternoon there.
So I've, I left a lot of spacein there, so we'll see see what
happens.
So, that's gonna be theinfrastructures code one for the
Ns nx o s using Ansible.
Right?
So, Ansible and Python seem tobe the two big ones that are
used in our space.
They're not exactly the same,but they're, they're they get
automation done, right?
That sort of thing.
(40:36):
Ansible using what they callplaybooks and then Python being
an actual language.
A programming language that youcan use.
So this basically does you canuse, your script, your
infrastructure and, splash itout to N Sox using Ansible
playbooks and things of thatnature.
So, again, infrastructure's codeAlex, you said, VX land, that
(40:57):
sort of thing.
Vxlan, e ev, p n, fabric, etcetera, et cetera.
So it gets all into that intothose weeds for that particular
session.
So that's gonna be cool.
So, that is my Tuesday.
So Tuesday's kind of light, butI mean, well light on sessions,
but I'll be cruising the floor,hanging with Champs, whatever.
I'll find some, there's alwayssomething to do.
So that's my Tuesday.
Alex (41:17):
All right.
You'll see me a little bit moreon Tuesday it seems like.
Pat (41:21):
All right.
Yeah.
Alex (41:22):
I'll definitely be there for the keynote after the
keynote.
How to be a network engineer ina programmable age.
So again, there
Pat (41:31):
Yeah, there's
Alex (41:32):
programming and there's a theme.
In addition to helping myself asa manager of people that are
kind of like your classicnetwork engineers, I'm hoping
that I'll come out of that withjust some more info to, figure
out how I can help transitionsome of these guys on my team to
be more aligned with what'scoming in the next five years.
(41:52):
That's probably another one Ishould have mentioned is one I'm
interested in.
Yeah, so definitely interestedin that.
I mentioned it earlier onMonday.
With the Monday sessions I havefor Tuesday, I have a VX Land
BGP E V P N multisite
Pat (42:05):
Ooh.
Alex (42:07):
That is another technology specifically E V P N multisite
that we use.
And this is a much more session,so, this is one that'll be very
interested in.
I I'll definitely take mynotebook here.
So hoping to gain somethingthere that same day.
I also have the predictivenetworks thing that I mentioned.
(42:27):
Really interested to see likehow far they've gotten to, at
this point, how close they areto really making true self heal
healing networks.
That'll be interesting.
Then I'm heading over to theDevNet Center.
I don't know if you had asession over there yet.
Pat (42:42):
I am not,
Alex (42:43):
I have network automation start here.
That's the name of the session.
Pat (42:47):
Oh, no way.
Alex (42:48):
get an opportunity to follow along and actually do
some network automation tasks.
So, I've done a few of these inthe past, so these are always
fun.
I always forget what I'velearned, so I really interested
in learning these again.
But yeah, this will be thingslike writing some basic Ansible
playbooks to do things like setNTP on all these devices, like
(43:10):
the most rudimentary things youcan do.
So if you have n if you've neverdone anything with Ansible, this
is a great one.
Then Joe, the to join cuz you'llactually accomplish something
that might end up being one ofthe first things you do if you
ever did use Ansible, which ispush out a very simple change to
watch of devices.
So
Pat (43:29):
What time is that?
One,
Alex (43:30):
two o'clock
Pat (43:31):
two.
Okay.
Alex (43:33):
in
Pat (43:33):
Well, I have an opening, was that, is that an hour or
what?
Alex (43:36):
45 minutes.
Pat (43:37):
Okay,
Alex (43:40):
Yep.
Pat (43:40):
I might have to do that.
Alex (43:42):
yeah, that's a good one.
And I think it's yeah, it'sfirst come, first serve, I think
is what it is.
Yeah.
First come, first serve.
So this is when you just put onyour calendar.
Well, I think it's by defaultbecause it's first come, first
serve, they don't give you,like, you just have to show up.
And
Pat (43:59):
I gotcha.
Alex (44:00):
if we don't have anything going on that afternoon, maybe
we can walk by around one 30 andsee if if there are already any
people waiting for that.
Then at three o'clock, I havethe same one that you did, the
infrastructure as code for N X OS with Ansible.
So,
Pat (44:14):
Yeah.
Cool.
Alex (44:14):
Those two go hand in hand pretty well with each other.
Pat (44:18):
Cool.
Alex (44:19):
And Wednesday, up to you, then back to you.
Pat (44:23):
All right.
Back to you, Johnny.
All right.
I actually just started I signedup for the network automation,
so I'm on a wait list, so that'scool.
There.
Wednesday's a little heavier.
The key, there's another keynoteit's called Let's Go.
So curious to see what thatdoes.
Then at 10 30 I have the Ciscoice.
So ice ice design deploy andbest practices.
So, looking forward to that.
(44:44):
Obviously that's all settingaround Cisco ICE and the Zero
Trust and all that sort ofthing.
So, really I don't have a wholelot of experience with ice.
I mean, I've been in places thatuse it but it's really kind of
not my forte, if you will or,it's kind of just been this
thing that just runs.
Again, you don't really know ifyou're doing it like right, or
(45:05):
if there's a better way to do itor whatever.
So it just kind of runs.
So, looking forward to that.
Getting, digging into ice andthat will certainly help for the
CC m p security ice specialtythat I'm striving towards later
this year.
So that's gonna be cool.
Then Let's see what make sure mydays are lined up here.
Then I have advanced Dusty WANpolicies troubleshooting.
(45:25):
So again, heavy Esty wan.
It's a session that's very, tackcase driven sort of thing.
It's a, demonstrate failurescenarios and common pitfalls
and things of that nature of theof the SD man fabric or
whatever.
So, but it touches on,centralized control policies,
data policies, application awarerouting, things of that nature.
(45:46):
So looking forward to that oneas well.
Since SD WAN is obviously a bigpart of my day to day.
And then The last one I have forthat day is the Cisco Secure
hybrid, s w g.
So it's a first step into like asassy journey.
So, kind of moving towards thesassy infrastructure and how all
(46:07):
that fit ins from anarchitecture perspective.
So, looking forward to that.
Secure services, edge, things ofthat nature which I, earlier in
the week I had a session on thatas well.
So this is a, ties right intothat nicely.
So, again, flexibility secureit's meant to introduce Cisco
secure, hybrid security gateway,that kind of thing.
So, practical, approaches and,things of that nature.
(46:29):
So umbrella secure webappliance, things of that
nature.
So looking forward to that.
As well.
So that is my Thursday, or I'msorry, my Wednesday.
Alex (46:40):
Wednesday.
All right.
Let's see here.
Doing the keynote again.
That one is gonna beinteresting.
The, they have the chiefsecurity officer from the NFL is
one of the speakers, and that'salso the one, or Jim Gaffigan is
talking Some point.
So, we'll see what that is.
I'm
Pat (46:59):
Cool.
Alex (47:00):
After that I have deploying Nexus Dashboard in
your organization.
Hopefully by then I've alreadygot some info from my, from a
couple other courses.
And then I have a pretty goodbreak there for a few hours
until I do the artificialintelligence and machine
learning for network engineersto close my day.
(47:21):
So that's actually
Pat (47:22):
Look at that.
Alex (47:22):
day.
Pat (47:23):
Nice.
Good deal.
Last day, Thursday, like I said,this was kind of the the one
that kind of wraps up earlier,kind of, Cisco Live.
I don't say Dives di dives offafter Wednesday, but the
Thursday schedule isconsiderably lighter, what you
could pick.
So it does seem to kind of, sortof try to wrap up early.
So, eight 30, bright and early.
(47:44):
It's called one to 100 Masterall steps of deployment,
seamless integration andmigration of large s d and SD
wan networks.
So again, heavy SD wan.
That's seems to be the world I'mliving in.
So again all about scale in thesd, SD access, ssd, wan network
space, things of that nature.
The details, the small minutedetails seamless integrations
(48:07):
how they sort of work together,et cetera.
Yeah, I'm interested to see howthat works and see where that
goes.
So, yeah, getting heavy s d s Dand SD wan, that works for me
all, pretty much all week.
So, again, another one s staccess migration tools.
So if you're, you're not on SDaccess now, what does it take to
kind of get you there?
Some real world migration toolsand strategies to kind of, kind
(48:31):
of get you there with some bestpractices that sort of thing.
So, what else is here?
It's yeah, so just kind of whatthat sort of looks like from a,
I don't have anything now towhat can we do, what can we do
for that?
And kind of go go from there.
So, and the last one I got isthis is the one you said, ah,
Thursday after lunch.
You may or may not get there,you just may bag it.
So we'll see.
(48:51):
But the the last one I got isthe connecting data centers and
branch offices to the CiscoSassy platform.
So again, more sass driventhings like that.
So, Again, branch offices, datacenters, anything in the wan
client or clientless remoteaccess, vpn, tunnels, things of
that nature.
So, how, how that all looks highavailability, throughput,
routing, get all that kind ofstuff in there.
(49:13):
Basically just, it coverseverything.
It do you need to do tosuccessfully design to, deploy
your IP SEC tunnels to the SaaS,solution or platform.
So, looking forward to that oneas well.
That's more of a deep diver.
So, but that'll end my Ciscolive from a sessions perspective
and kind of, go from there.
So what do you got for Thursday?
Alex (49:32):
Well, only two sessions cause closing up pretty much at
lunchtime for me.
Keeping up with Zero Trust.
Pat (49:38):
Cool.
Alex (49:39):
this is just going over what they claim is the current I
guess, the current go-tosolutions revolving zero trust
and demos of those use cases.
And then I have preparing forthe new DevNet Associates
certification.
Been talking about it for awhile.
I really do think in the nextsay, six months, I will get my
(50:05):
DevNet associate certification.
So I'm
Pat (50:07):
You heard it here first.
Alex (50:08):
right?
I'll keep you guys update on myprogress, but
Pat (50:12):
That's it.
Now you have to do it now, cuznow it's on the internet for the
rest of our lives.
So it's all good.
Alex (50:17):
a fact.
Pat (50:19):
So yeah that, that's it.
That's our schedule.
So if you guys or gals are outthere, come say what's up.
If you have any sc, any tips forus that we didn't cover here, or
any classes that you're like,oh, you guys need to take this.
Let us know, hit us up.
We'd love to rearrange schedulesand see if we can fit things in.
(50:39):
So, if you're in any of thoseclasses or sessions we'll see
you there.
So, we'll, don't be afraid tocome say hello and hang out and
we'll be all over.
So it's gonna be cool.
So I actually tried to do like aactual podcast out there and
just like, but little, I thinklogistics will be a little hard,
so probably won't, but, we'llleave with a lot more education
(50:59):
and guidance than what we camefrom and maybe some guests line
up and get some dates oncalendars.
So that's
Alex (51:04):
Oh yeah, I didn't even
Pat (51:05):
see, see what happens
Alex (51:06):
Line up some guest speakers.
Pat (51:09):
Yeah.
So that's gonna be cool.
So hopefully, so if you wanna bea guest on the show, come hang
and let us know too.
So that's gonna be real cool.
So, Alex, I think that was it.
That really filled out the hour,right around the hour, so that
worked perfectly.
Alex (51:21):
That works for me.
Yeah, I think that's enough.
We'll have a follow up one, soI'm ready to leave with that.
Pat (51:29):
On what we learned, so.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
So we will get outta your hair.
Like I said, we're right aroundthat hour mark, so we appreciate
you joining on this very timelyepisode of breaking down the
Bites.
So we will, we it's a week fromweek from today actually.
I'll be flying.
So yeah we'll be on planes aweek from today.
And actually at this time we'llboth be out there.
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So it's gonna be cool.
Yeah, it's gonna be really cool.
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So it is just Alex and I thisweek.
Kyle got his schedules mixed upwith the Memorial Day holiday,
so he is off doing his thing,which is cool.
Alex and I are here and this oneis a specifically timed episode
due to an event that is comingup next week.
Alex and I are both headed toCisco live here in the States.
(01:04):
It is June 4th through theninth.
Actually.
Yeah, it's fourth through theninth.
I'm flying in Sunday, leavingFriday, and that's gonna be
cool.
It is in Vegas.
I think it was in Vegas the lastcouple years, if I'm not
mistaken.
It used to be in Orlando or theychange it up every now and then,
but the last couple years it'sbeen in Vegas.
So we are traveling there to sayhello and take in all the things
(01:28):
that are Cisco Live.
What's up Alex?
How you doing?
Alex (01:33):
Well, doing well.
Glad to be back.
I know we've been out a fewweeks and just like you
mentioned, I'm excited for CiscoLive.
Excited
Pat (01:41):
breached your contract.
You can't miss more than twoweeks, or I have to stipend
Alex (01:44):
I know
Pat (01:45):
we don't make anything, I ain't stipending shit.
So That's all right.
Alex (01:50):
That works.
Pat (01:51):
So, yeah, man we're pumped.
I'm pumped for Cisco Live.
It is my first time.
I've been working with Ciscogear for 20 years and I've never
gotten to go to Cisco Live, so,it's a cool moment for me, so
I'm looking forward to that.
So, totally ready and raining togo and Packing a bag this week
and hopping on a plane fromPhilly.
So I think it's like a five orsix hour flight, something like
(02:12):
that.
So I'll land in Vegas local timeSunday at noon.
I'm supposed to land, so we'llsee what happens there.
But I know a bunch of peoplethat are going and vendors are
all lined up.
Everybody wants to take me todinner, so I'm all about that.
So you mentioned a few weeks agothat your goal was to have a
vendor or somebody pay for yourmeal ticket the entire week.
(02:34):
Have you gotten that yet?
Have you secured that bag?
Alex (02:37):
I don't have anything scheduled, but I feel like I
have enough people that haveoffered that I shouldn't have
any issue doing it.
There's also the C C I E party Ijust got told is at Top Golf,
which is one of the coolestplaces that I know
Pat (02:51):
Ice.
Alex (02:52):
And this is one where I don't know if like you and Nate
have to arm wrestle for this,but I can take one person.
Pat (02:59):
Ah, yeah, I'll see if I can.
So the illustrious group ofCisco champions that we are,
that we belong to, there's abunch of ccis in there, so maybe
I can drag one of them to getto, to have me be their date.
So we'll see what happens, butthat's gonna be, that's gonna be
cool as well.
So there's actually a coupleCisco champions things that
they've carved out for us.
So I think Monday night is bansand beers and there's a couple
(03:22):
different things that we that USchampions have access to.
So we're looking forward tothat.
A night or two out happy hoursand yeah, they carved out their
own space for us, that kind ofthing.
So, I'm trying to get to, tryingto hang in that space there as
well in between sessions andthat sort of thing.
So really looking forward tothat.
I think our vendor has taken usto Topgolf one, one night, I
(03:42):
think that's on my calendar.
There's just so much on mycalendar.
I didn't even know what, like,what I'm doing.
I just like every invite that Iget, I just accept and then I'll
figure it out later.
It's just like, okay,
Alex (03:53):
Yeah, that's probably the
Pat (03:54):
this, I can scratch this, kinda.
So I'm really looking forward tothat.
I've never been to a top golf atall, so I'm looking forward to
that.
Fun fact, they're actuallyputting one here probably like
15 minutes from where I live.
So, that, that's being developedas we speak.
So I'm hoping to get a littletop golf action here in the next
couple of months when thething's built.
So it's gonna be cool.
So, yeah, I gotta, I got itplanned.
Most of the nights are plannedand somebody's either feeding me
(04:17):
food or putting a beer in frontof me.
So it's all good.
Alex (04:21):
Yeah, that is definitely good.
So I've been there a few timeshaven't been there since the
pandemic, so it's been a while.
First time for you.
know we joke about food, butrealistically that's, that is
something to look forward to.
But I have to ask you, assomeone that's never gone
before, is there anything that'sexciting you more than anything
(04:43):
else?
Pat (04:45):
I don't think so.
Just cause I don't really knowwhat to expect, so it just feels
like it's a huge party and abunch of stuff going on.
So I'm just looking forward togetting there and like whoever's
gonna, let me tag along like asad little puppy.
I'm all about it, so it's gonnabe cool.
So I, I don't really know if Ihave anything.
(05:05):
That sort of sticks out.
Like obviously, you pick yoursessions, you go and, you sit in
on schedules or I should say sitin on sessions and things of
that nature.
So I'm looking forward to acouple sessions, but there's
other things that are outside ofthose, learning hours that you
know, and from what I've, fromwhat I've read other blogs and
whatnot of people that have gonefirst time, like they, they
(05:26):
really like the camaraderie ofthe people that they meet and
that kind of thing.
So I'm really looking forward tomeeting some folks and and for
me growing up on.
CCNA stuff and going all the waythrough ccmp and all those video
instructors through C B TNuggets and a couple other
platforms.
So, looking forward, I mean, Igrew up on guys like Keith Bark
and Anthony Secu and all thoseguys.
(05:48):
When to load him with his booksand things of that nature.
So if they're hanging out I'dlove to meet him.
And it's kind of like a fullcircle, moment for me.
So that's kind of cool.
So looking forward to that.
Alex (05:58):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's interesting for a few realnetworking geeks, like, I guess
we are, I kind of devoted ourcareers to it.
Some of these guys that we kindof cut our teeth on listening to
and reading when we first gotinto this game are almost like
many celebrities to us.
And I think I mentioned this onepoint, but when I was at Cisco
(06:20):
Alive in Orlando, which is fouror five years ago you mentioned
Keith Barker.
Scott Morris is another personthat I, back in 2006 and when I
was studying for the ccna, hewas one that I was reading his
books.
But yeah, I was in line gettingfood at the C C I E party and I
just heard something in, in thebackground, two guys talking and
(06:42):
without turning around, I waslike, oh my God, that's Scott
Morris.
I know it is.
And I turned around and he isright behind me and he is right
behind me talking.
And then sure enough he'stalking to Keith Barker and I
was like, wow, I listen to youguys all the time and you're
just right here.
Pat (06:55):
That's
Alex (06:55):
It was almost like a little, almost, I don't wanna
say I'm ashamed, but man, itjust really hits home that
you're a nerd when, I felt alittle awestruck
Pat (07:03):
to total fan girl in it right there.
Yeah.
Alex (07:06):
and I'm thinking like, can do I ask them to sign my book
or,
Pat (07:09):
crazy.
It's crazy.
So I guess I'll reverse thatsame question to you.
You have something that you'relooking forward to now?
You've cut your teeth on Ciscolive a couple years now.
Alex (07:19):
yeah.
Well, I mentioned it a few timesalready.
As a golfer and someone who hasgone to the c c E parties, I am
looking forward to top golf,which
Pat (07:29):
Nice.
Alex (07:30):
I know it's not really work related.
I'm not sure work would prefer Isay something else, but I guess
that's in my head.
I, as far as sessions go, Imean, I'll probably ask you the
same question if you wanna takea gander through your schedule.
We've been talking about italmost every week now.
We bring up ai and so I'm reallyinterested in a few of the
sessions that I schedule thatare really kind of focused on AI
(07:53):
for, but AI for networkengineers.
So there's actually a session Ihave on Wednesday that is
artificial intelligence andmachine learning for network
engineers.
Pat (08:06):
Hi.
Alex (08:06):
That's one that I'm pretty interested in.
And another one that kind ofgoes a little hand in hand with
that is predictive networks arethe future.
That's another session that's onTuesday, but um,
Pat (08:22):
that on Tuesday?
Alex (08:23):
that is at 1:00 PM
Pat (08:27):
Nice.
Alex (08:28):
so that one is similar.
The whole idea is we've heard ofself-healing networks before and
just, maybe gets a little scaryfor some people cause they feel
like they're not gonna be neededanymore.
But the whole idea where you'llbe able to just automatically
spin things up based on just usecases.
(08:49):
Like if a server starts usingmore traffic and then is
accustomed to your network candynamically build itself to
accommodate it.
And machine learning and AI isreally important with that.
It just gets a, an idea of, whatyour habits are and can.
Essentially build your networkon the fly as you grow.
And yeah, that'd be reallyinteresting.
(09:10):
So, as far as sessions goes, Ithink those are the two that I'm
looking forward to.
Outside of that, I have severalothers that are kind of focused
on automation and programmingand stuff, but for people that
are bit beginners like me, sonot very original, I think a lot
of people are interested inthat, that are classic network
engineers that don't wanna getleft behind.
(09:31):
So I have several of those.
Pat (09:34):
I get it.
I totally get it.
I have.
I have two as well that I'mreally kind of looking forward
to.
One, the first one beingend-to-end visibility and
actionable insights usingThousand Eyes DNA Center east
and SD wan.
So, obviously the big Cisco shopthat we are.
I'm kind of looking forward tothat, to kind of tie all those
together with the the thousand Iand the the Sdwan stuff.
(09:57):
So that's really gonna be coolfor me.
Like I like that one.
And then the other one I had wasthe software defined access
solutions, the fundamentals.
So again, it's more of a, it'smore of a beginner slash early
intermittent, early intermediatecourse.
But it basically goes from,software defined access kind of,
(10:19):
intent based automation, thatsort of thing.
So looking to, for scale and, etcetera, et cetera.
So, looking forward to that oneand seeing what what happens
there.
And I have one that'sinfrastructure as code for Nexus
and using Ansible.
So, again trying to get thatautomation and the usability in
there as well.
So looking forward to a coupleof those.
(10:39):
So, but I guess my question thenis, cause I've read a few things
different opinions on it.
I'll get your thoughts on ittoo.
And I actually took out a coupleof sessions in my schedule
because I literally had sessionupon sessions.
It's like, there's other thingsto do there.
So, do you, so what's your roughnumber of sessions that you're
going to, like, do you spread'emout?
And I've also heard that like,you really should only attend
(11:00):
the sessions that you likeactually have questions for, cuz
it's a little more enjoymentthat way and it's, interactive,
et cetera, et cetera.
So, is there a sweet spot for anumber of sessions and what does
that look like?
Alex (11:13):
Yep.
I think we were planning onlater in this episode maybe
going through some tips thatpeople have that, that I have,
that'll be my number one tip forpeople is don't go in there
assuming that all Cisco live isjust these breakout sessions and
you have to schedule from eightin the morning till six in the
evening every single day.
Cuz there's a lot more to it.
(11:33):
I mean, that's a big portion ofit and there's certainly fun to
be in those.
But you mentioned a good point.
The ones that you plan on askingquestions or the ones that might
be a little bit more hands-onand actually may have equipment
that you can follow along thoseyou should focus on because I
think all of these get recorded,so you, if there's anything that
you're interested, you could goback and look at them and it
(11:56):
does get a little exhausting.
I mean, Cisco live is a goodtime and if you're.
Doing nothing but these breakoutsessions, I can see people
getting a little tired of it.
So I do book, I pretty much gothrough the entire session
catalog every single day.
And I do book everyone that I'minterested in, which some people
will probably get really upsetat me because I think there's
(12:17):
finite amount of spots and oncethey're filled, you have to go
on like, the wait list whileyou're phys.
Pat (12:24):
a few that I had a wait list for.
Yeah.
Alex (12:26):
yeah, you get almost no one, they almost never get fully
booked up.
You just have to show up there.
And then after like thescheduled time, like, if
something starts at 10:00 AM andthen at 10:00 AM then it's fair
game for anyone who just showsup can just walk in if there's
seats available, which isusually there is.
But yeah, having said that rightnow, just the ones that interest
(12:47):
me, it looks like I roughly havefive or six a day.
I would say there's.
Under no circumstances am Igonna do more than three.
And I'd probably say that's mysweet spot is three and try to
break them up too.
Again, there's so much to dothere and and we could talk
about it from more detail.
But yeah, I would avoid back toback sessions.
(13:10):
So one in the morning, one afterlunch, and then a late one.
So, pretty much I have somethingscheduled at 8:00 AM every day.
I'll probably do all those.
Then I have one every day that'sright around one or two, and
then I have one every day that'saround four o'clock.
So that's probably gonna be whatI end up doing, unless there's
(13:30):
one that really just, strikes anerve with me, or if someone
convinces me that I have toattend it.
Pat (13:37):
Yep.
Yeah, I'm kind of in the sameboat.
I actually, like I said I tookaway a couple of sessions just
to break up the schedule alittle bit cuz I did, I, it was
back to back and like I, you, Iwould think you have some sort
of mental fatigue as you startto get later in the week,
Thursday and Friday you'reyou're spent, that kind of thing
from a, oh, how do I retain allthis knowledge and, whatever.
But yeah, I'm kind of in thesame boat.
(13:58):
Eight 30 most days.
And then I have actually I havea 10, so I have a 10 30 all days
and then late ones threeo'clocks, things of that nature.
So, tried to spread them out asmuch as I could.
They're, and like I said, I'mnot completely done.
Maybe I'll drop one or two ofthem, but the ones that I do
have are the large blocks.
They're like an hour and a halfsessions.
(14:19):
So those are the big boys.
So, really, looking forward tothose as well.
But I was just curious on, whatthat looks like from how much
shoes should be taken, that sortof thing.
Cuz like the world of solutions,from what I'm hearing, is a cool
place to hang and meet peopleand just, network, quote
unquote, no pun intended withother people and hey, how are
you?
And blah, blah.
And what I like too is being inthe second year of this, Champs
(14:41):
program, shout out to thechamps.
They become real people for theweek.
Cause you meet them in personand then, so that's always
interesting to me to meet thesefolks that you talk to, in
their, in our WebEx space.
And you various podcasts thatyou either listen to or take
part of from the Cisco ChampionsRadio.
But check those out if youhaven't.
But yeah just meeting thosefolks from a in-person
(15:03):
perspective is always a goodtime.
So looking forward to that andputting names with faces and
it's gonna be, it's gonna bereally cool.
So,
Alex (15:11):
A hundred percent.
I agree.
All right.
That's actually something Iprobably should spend a little
bit more time with.
I haven't really looked intoexactly what's going on for the
Cisco champions.
I know that seems like there'squite a few things they have
going on for us, but at thispoint haven't really taken
advantage of that designationyet.
So maybe I should spend sometime
Pat (15:32):
Yeah, like I said, I just accepted everything that Amy Lee
threw at us, and then I'll belike, I'll figure it out later,
but at least want it on myschedule.
And then I could weed out,what's what doesn't jive or
whatever.
So it's it's always interestingto fill what you can and kind of
go from there.
So, the other thought is I'mstaying at the Luxor, which is
attached, I guess to so CiscoLive is at the mgm MGM Grand.
(15:55):
So, And so Luxor is is the hotelthat is one of the hotels that
is connected to that.
But I, from what I'm reading,it's like a mile walk.
Like it's all inside.
Like you don't have to gooutside right?
Where whatever in the Las Vegasheat, but it is all inside, but
it is a mile or roughly around amile to and from.
So that's interesting as well.
So I'll be wearing somecomfortable shoes and some
(16:17):
lightweight clothing that not todrag me down.
So what is the attire there,Alex?
Is people like polos or I know alot of people think like dress
for comfort sort of thing cuzyou're doing a lot of walking
and swag and all that kind ofcrazy stuff.
Alex (16:31):
A hundred percent.
You want to dress for comfort.
Yeah.
No one's gonna be in there witha suit and tie on unless they're
trying to impress somebody.
No.
So I'm short T-shirts mostcomfortable shoes I have.
That's what I'm dealing with.
Cuz you're gonna do a lot ofwalking for sure.
There's a lot to see.
Just the what do they call it?
(16:53):
Is it the world of solutions orthe, whatever that main
showcased area is huge.
It's, and going, just makingyour rounds around that is
gonna, you'll probably takemiles as by the time you go up
and down, everything.
So yeah, be comfortable forsure.
Pat (17:11):
I gotta charge my Fitbit.
I'm gonna get all those stepsin.
Baby.
I gotta see, I gotta see myresults.
I'll come back like 10 poundslighter.
The wife won't even recognizeme.
Yeah.
So from what I'm reading there'sactually a space, depending on
what package you sign up for, alot of people take I think it's
the full explorer or whateverthey call it.
But basically it's you can takea, you can take any of the Cisco
(17:34):
exams that's part of yourpackage.
So, I actually do have thatpackage.
I'm trying to take the ccna,although I gotta contact them
because I never got theenrollment for the, to actually
schedule it through PearsonView.
So I gotta contact them and say,Hey can I get that link?
And I'll sign up or whatever andkind of, complete that last
hump.
So, but I'm interested to takecna, ccna, as most of you know,
(17:56):
all my Cisco stuff expired backin 2020 when I really wasn't
using it for the job I was at,and I just didn't see putting
all the time and effort tosomething I didn't use day to
day.
But but I'm gonna start teachingin the fall here at our local
community college.
So they, at the Cisco NetworkingAcademy, that they have the
program.
So, they do require you to becertified.
So I'm gonna try to get back tomy ccna.
(18:17):
And then I had the I actuallyhave the ccmp security with the
ice track that was planned.
So the CCNA is actually just abridge to that to get me
teaching in the fall.
So, yeah, definitely wanna takethe CCNA at Cisco live to free
crack.
I might as well.
I don't expect to fail, but seewhat happens.
But this is the first time atthe new version of the test, so
I interested to see how myskills have evolved and what
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that looks like.
Cause it is a little differentthan when the one you and I
took, Alex, I took mine in 2013,and you took yours before that.
So it's definitely been througha couple revs, since then.
Alex (18:50):
Yeah, I took mine in 2007.
It's probably so foreign rightnow.
Pat (18:55):
So yeah, I'm looking to get that, see what kind of spots are
left to go get me to go get me accna.
So that's gonna be cool.
So, what else do you bring inAlex?
You bring in like a notepad aniPad for notes like usb, like ch
like a charging pack.
Keep your phone, juiced up orAdvil, Tylenol, any kind of
crazy medication.
Alex (19:16):
I probably should come more prepared, but yeah.
Backpack, notepad, laptop,headphones, and charger from my
phone.
I pack late.
I'm taking budget air, sowhatever fits in a backpack and
maybe three changes of clothesfor four
Pat (19:30):
Heck yeah.
Alex (19:31):
And yeah, that's pretty much it.
Again, you're gonna be walkingthere long days and really don't
want your backpack holding youdown.
Depending on the sessions I havethat day, there's probably even
times that I won't even bringthe backpack.
Like if I know that there'regonna be a couple sessions that
I'm doing that day that I doubtI'll need to take notes for then
(19:52):
yeah, I think I'll just go withjust to close my back and that's
it.
Make it
Pat (19:56):
Cool.
Alex (19:57):
a bit of a relaxing day.
And I think there they'll prob,based on the schedule, there
might be a day where Iintentionally choose not to do
any sessions or maybe just theone in the morning.
Because there's a few thingsthat I like to do when I'm at
Cisco Live and that, that arejust both informational and just
fun.
They almost always have somesort of game trivia games.
(20:18):
And I mentioned before, I thinkin another one of these
podcasts, I hadn't escaped theroom challenge the one year I
went where you escaped the roomby doing networking related
challenges.
That was kind of
Pat (20:29):
That's cool.
Yeah.
Alex (20:31):
They have real time demos which are really interesting
sometimes, especially if you canreally correlate it to something
you're doing at work.
So you can actually go and watcha realtime demo.
And I'm sure they're even moreinteresting with everything
related to AI and machinelearning and automation, what
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stuff can do.
But I, the first Cisco Live thatI went to, this stuff was still
kind of in infancy.
And I remember seeing a demowhere somebody was using the.
Embedded event manager andanyone who's not familiar with
that, it's kinda like a built-inscripting thing that Cisco has.
And this was before, every Ciscodevice could do Python scripts
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and things like that.
But what they were able to dowas so simple and an to explain
but it was just reallyinteresting to see it being
done.
And what they did was based on alog message, they were able to
send out an API call toServiceNow and automate it,
automatically make a ticket.
And back then, that was reallyinteresting to me.
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Like, I mean, we're so farbeyond that at this point, but
for someone when that kind ofstuff was really in its infancy,
the idea that a log messagecould immediately trigger a
ticket to be generated, not onlydid they trigger the ticket to
be created, they also sent theoutput of several really
relevant show commands.
So not only did.
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The network on call wouldpotentially get a structured
ticket in their ticketingsystem, but they'd also have,
the four or five commands thatthey were just bound to use
anyway.
And it's already there in aticket.
You can see it on your phonebefore you start doing anything.
And I bring that up justbecause, that was years ago.
Can't imagine what they're gonnabe showing in some of these
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demos as things that aren'tquite hashed out yet, that it's
gonna be amazing.
I think I told you that I wasdoing the I forget what that
session's called.
Predictive networking, I thinkis what
Pat (22:27):
Oh yeah.
Predictive networks.
Yeah.
Alex (22:29):
Right?
I would love to see a demo ofthat, of maybe an idea.
They have a network and theytell you to break it
intentionally and then see ifthis thing can automatically fix
itself.
Something like that would bereally neat.
Pull cables, power somethingdown, try to put in a routing
loop.
See if this thing can figure itout.
And.
(22:49):
Cracked it.
That's the kind of stuff I'mlooking forward to
Pat (22:52):
Cool.
Alex (22:53):
for sure.
And I mean, having said allthat, I know you're new, but I'm
sure you've been kind ofgoogling things and reading
about stuff.
Is there anything like thatmight not be obvious, like a
session that, peaking yourinterest?
Pat (23:09):
I don't know.
It's just there's just a lot totake in, especially for the new
guys trying to work, gals tryingto, kind of do it right and
whatnot.
I just think there's so muchthere that, you just kind of,
hang with somebody that's kindof been there before and, a
little bit of the ropes and kindof, get you, gets you moving.
But a lot of my sessions aresdwan based.
That sort of thing.
(23:30):
I'm hearing some things too aslike part of the part of the
Cisco Champs things and whatnot,so, that are coming, or that are
supposed to be and that we haveaccess to them.
I'm excited about, but yeah, itseems like a cool thing that I'm
hearing, like that world ofsolutions, there's just, it's
just so massive and there's justa bunch of stuff to look at.
So I'm looking forward to justkind of getting my teeth into
(23:52):
that and meeting everybody Ican.
And who, who knows, and I'malways curious of like, the
downtime, not downtime, but likehow much time you have outside
of the Cisco realm.
Like, like the combination of,okay, you get there at eight,
you're gonna leave at five, orwhatever it is.
And then like, depending on thenights you have or the vendors
(24:12):
are taking you out, you're goingto happy hour and boom.
Like, is there like a day thatyou just.
That you just have to like hangin Vegas, like on Fremont Street
or just do something touristy inVegas?
Or is it all Cisco All the time?
Just cuz you're in that world.
Alex (24:27):
Well, you said you're leaving Friday.
It things really die down afterWednesday.
I think they have a kind of alimited schedule on Thursday.
Pat (24:36):
Huh?
Alex (24:37):
like if you look at your schedule right now, I'd probably
be surprised if you have a reallate Thursday thing, cuz I mean,
things are starting to, peopleare, shutting down exhibits and
things like that.
So Thursday's
Pat (24:47):
Yeah.
Alex (24:49):
the day where you might have a, an early morning session
and by then, since people arealready packing up, that's kind
of like your day to, all right,let's unwind, let's explore
before.
So,
Pat (25:03):
Yeah.
Thursday I have a one, my lastone is one to two 30.
Alex (25:08):
okay.
Yeah, I think that's, I have aone two as well.
So.
And don't be shocked if comelunch, you don't go back for
that one o'clock and you'relike, yeah, I'm done.
Pat (25:19):
Yeah,
Alex (25:20):
time to go gamble.
Pat (25:22):
Yeah.
Throw a couple bucks in themachine or whatever.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Alex (25:27):
The Vegas donations.
Sure.
Here.
Pat (25:29):
That's it.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm not a big gamblers.
I don't know, but like I, I'm ahuge hockey guy and the Vegas
Golden Knights are in the play.
They're literally in the finalsfor the Western conference.
So I'm curious to see, cuz Ithink they played the T-Mobile
arena, which is like rightthere.
So I'm interested to see if theif a game comes back there, if
(25:49):
I, if that would be awesome if Icould grab a ticket.
But that's gonna have to be anact of God to line up correctly
like that.
But we'll see what
Alex (25:56):
if you network of the right people.
I'm sure somebody has tickets.
Pat (25:59):
That'd be so cool if anybody's out there that's going
to Cisco live and there's andthere's the Golden Knights are
coming back and playing the gameat T-Mobile, holler.
They're at your boy dude needsto go.
Alex (26:11):
You know that the Gwen Stefani is the headline actor at
Legion Stadium.
We
Pat (26:18):
And I heard I heard her husband like, Shelton is coming
along,
Alex (26:21):
Yep.
And I don't know how this isgonna work out, and I can't
remember if I mentioned this ornot, but Jim Gaffigan is one of
the keynote speakers
Pat (26:30):
yeah,
Alex (26:31):
on Thurs or
Pat (26:32):
that.
Alex (26:33):
Yeah.
So I'm gonna go to that and I
Pat (26:35):
Hell yeah.
Alex (26:36):
I mean, does this guy know anything about networking or
care about technology in theslightest?
Pat (26:42):
I like Jim Gaffigan.
He's funny.
Alex (26:43):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that'll
Pat (26:45):
dude.
Alex (26:45):
interesting.
And,
Pat (26:47):
I'm interested to see what other Vegas life that I can kind
of at least add my, cause it'smy first time in Vegas ever, not
just for Cisco Live.
I've
Alex (26:54):
so that's a double whammy.
Pat (26:56):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Total double win.
So I'm looking forward to that.
So, yeah, it's gonna be cool.
So I'm interested to see whatwhat else is out there at least
people, different people tell medifferent things that they like
and whatnot.
Obviously the Hoover Dam is outthere and, all these museums and
for a couple years I was intothe show, pawn Stars, and on the
history channels it's superpopular.
(27:16):
So they're, they're in Vegas, sowho knows.
I'm just looking to do some coolstuff.
So see what happens.
Alex (27:22):
Yeah, for sure,
Pat (27:24):
I'm interested to see.
So Cisco has their I guess thisyear they're focused on like
sustainability.
So from what I hear, there's notgonna be a whole lot of swag or
at least a massive reduction ofswag that's gonna be given out
this, it's gonna be given outthis year.
So,
Alex (27:42):
You can't close on that.
Better note,
Pat (27:44):
I know, just curious to see what what what they give us and
or what's out there and whatnot.
Cause from what I've read, likeyou throw away over 90% of what
you, of what they give outthere.
So, just unless you can't wearit or if it really isn't serve a
purpose, a lot of people arethrowing it out.
So, shout out to my man Julio,who works with me.
He's a voice guy where I work.
That guy is like the king ofswag.
(28:05):
He comes back with literallysuitcase, full of swag.
He gets everything.
So he's coming with me againthis year.
So, or I should say he's goingagain this year.
He went last year as well.
So I'm curious to see what kindof swag he gets.
Cuz he is the notorious king ofswag in our.
In our department.
So I'm curious to see whathappens there, but nah, just
(28:25):
totally into the networking sideof it, the people networking
side of it.
Talk to as many people as I can.
Some really bright minds thereto see what they can what I,
well what rubs off on on me andmake me a little smarter.
So who, who knows.
But totally looking forward toit.
And so does the, for those ofthe, for those of us that are
coming from a different timezone does that really kind of
(28:48):
come into play of like, you getsome jet lag the first day to
kind of get on Vegas time?
Or is it just a adrenalinething?
You just rush rush.
Alex (28:56):
Well, since you're coming from the East coast you're gonna
make up sometimes.
So that'll probably work outwell cuz 8:00 AM sessions it'll
feel like 11 to you, so you'llprobably be pumped, already
beaten breakfast maybe checkedout the.
Luxor is gym, get the bloodflowing.
So, no, I think you're probablybetter off making the trip and I
(29:18):
think just about everyone'sgoing the day before.
I'm gonna be there Sunday aswell.
I think I'm landing at like sixo'clock or something like that.
So,
Pat (29:26):
Let's see.
It's 6:00 PM Local time there.
Alex (29:28):
Yeah.
It's only an hour flight for meand I couldn't check in until
four, so I just like, all right,well I'll just wait for, look
for the flight that gets methere as soon as after I can
check in.
Yeah.
So we'll have to make sure we dothat then.
Yeah, just bank on seveno'clock.
We'll go do dinner somewhere.
Pat (29:44):
That's to be cool.
Yeah.
I mean, also I wanna mention forthose of you that are going for
the first time Sunday at fouro'clock out there, there is an
actual session going on.
It's actually new to Cisco live.
It's like an orientation.
So it's, their tips, theirtricks, their, their
experiences.
Shout out to my boss, Evan, whois one of the presenters there.
(30:08):
So he'll be on stage given hisspiel.
And there's three other, threeother folks that are with him.
Just trying to, get you used toCisco live, if you're a newbie,
if you're a first comer, thatkind of thing.
So, don't be afraid to join thatas well.
Like I said, Sunday, fouro'clock I'll be landing there at
noon local time.
So I have that on my schedule.
(30:29):
I'll be joining and it'll beready to rock and roll.
So I'm looking forward to that.
And yeah, just looking forwardto taking it all in and I'm sure
the week will fly by.
They usually do so.
Alex (30:41):
And I know we already talked about it already, but
this is probably be a littleshorter than normal podcast
episode, so I thought maybe wecould even close with we kind of
just discuss our, just oursessions that we have booked in
its entirety real quick andmaybe that way people can
(31:02):
comment and say no, you gottamake sure that you join this
one.
Or if, hey, let us know ifyou're gonna be joining the same
sessions.
Pat (31:08):
one man.
We'd love to meet you for sure.
Alex (31:10):
because I'm curious too, it's one that I've been wi
meaning to ask you, and now Iknow too that you're gonna be
joining.
But I'm curious, did we happento overlap at all?
And then after we share ourschedule, I guess we can bid a
do and hope we meet some of thelisteners over there.
Pat (31:27):
That's it, that's gonna be cool.
So I guess, I guess I'll start,I'm the newbies.
So, Monday I got a eight 30.
It's an introduction to campuswired campus wired land
deployment using Cisco validateddesign.
So, it's a breakout session.
More of like an intro to say,Hey, these are some of the Cs
that, we recommend from a wiredperspective, branch that sort of
(31:50):
thing.
So looking that one 10 30 is thesoftware defined access
fundamentals.
So again, more of a newbie whenit comes to the SD access stuff.
So, looking forward to that one.
It's got a lot of zero truststuff built, baked into it.
So, zero trust is somethingwe're exploring as well, or,
getting better at.
So getting through the phasesof, so, that seemed to be
(32:11):
interesting and at least rightup my alley of what I'm working
on day to day.
So that's gonna be cool.
One o'clock is a SD access tothe external world.
So the flexible, secure way ofdeploying wire to wireless
campus network stuff using DNAcenter automation, things of
that nature.
That's more of an intermediatekind of thing.
(32:32):
So, looking forward to that oneas well.
I have a little, I have a shortone here, a short half hour.
But again this may be gooddropped just to me to go walk,
but more zero trust zero trustnext gen sassy solution, that
kind of thing.
So, it's like zero touch zerotouch, zero trust, that sort of
thing.
A lot of acronyms here.
So, and then the last one onMonday is en and enterprise and
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WAN architecture.
So a lot of SD wan, a lot ofthousand I stuff in there.
Lar you know, stuff that's kindof geared towards larger
organizations.
Again, SD WAN thousand i's DNA nA center N P L S ed, data center
edge, that kind of thing.
So anything end to end from aaway.
Architecture perspective isthat, that's a, that's gonna be
(33:16):
a cool one too.
So looking forward to that.
And that's it for Monday.
What do you got for Monday?
Alex (33:20):
Well, surprisingly, doesn't look like we overlapped.
And,
Pat (33:25):
Damn it.
Alex (33:25):
Be honest, you ha you didn't sell me on anything.
So I don't know if I'm gonna beswitching over.
Pat (33:30):
Understood.
Understood.
Alex (33:32):
I'm starting off my Cisco live week with something that's
probably too introductory forme.
So maybe I won't end up doingthis one first, but it's
introduction to VX Land.
This is one that Nate's doing orwas interested in.
So I think that's part of thereason that I did it.
We use it heavily at Disney.
So I'm already pretty familiarwith it.
(33:53):
So
Pat (33:54):
Yeah.
Alex (33:54):
have some more advanced topics later in the week.
They're probably gonna be a bitmore interested, but sometimes
when you get in the weeds andyou go into environments that
already have things built andthey're working.
Sometimes it's not a terribleidea to go back to introductory
principles and then figure outif you're not actually doing
some
Pat (34:14):
make sure you're doing it right.
Alex (34:15):
It's just like, yeah, just cuz it works doesn't mean you
did it the way they think youprobably should.
So maybe I'll gain gainsomething there.
The next one is prettyinteresting.
It's just called UnleashingInnovation.
When I mentioned about a fewthemes of the sessions that I've
taken, I mentioned automation,machine learning, ai.
Been lucky enough with the lastfew positions that I've had that
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they've had some prettyimpressive budgets.
So we've been able to kind of beon the bleeding edge of
technology.
So I'm also really interested injust, what the next five years
and tech are gonna look.
Not just things that are here,things I can't even buy yet.
So this unleashing innovation.
Is really just about the futureof Cisco technology.
(34:58):
So I'm just interested to see ifthere's anything that comes out
here that just might, kind ofblow my mind.
Talks of quantum networking isin there and some other things
that are really farfetched, butI think that'll be pretty
interesting.
After that I have Ansiblenetwork automation and get outs
for network operations.
Pat (35:19):
Cool.
Alex (35:19):
I said, anything that has to do with automation.
Ansible, this is an intermediarycourse.
I'm hoping that I'm strongenough now to maybe be able to
handle an intermediateautomation course.
So we'll find
Pat (35:32):
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Hoping you could hang.
Yeah.
Alex (35:37):
Yeah I keep getting more and more of it, so I'm hoping
that I can get to it.
Pat (35:41):
Cool.
Alex (35:41):
How to seamlessly automate.
Nexus OS and cloud networksthrough the Nexus dashboard.
That is also on Monday.
Again, that's new seeker.
We use Nexus a lot and again,just kind of falls in line with
automating and the Nexusdashboard is really just gonna
be a gooey that's think's gonnasimplify that for people that
(36:03):
aren't programmers by trade orcode Python daily.
I think that putting these frontend gooeys in front of it,
you're gonna allow you toaccomplish the same things that
you could but give you a meansto do it.
That's slightly simpler.
So I'm interested to see if Ican maybe even come back from
one of these sessions withsomething that I can suggest
(36:24):
that we push forward at work.
Cuz we talked about the Nexusdashboard at work
Pat (36:28):
Yep,
Alex (36:29):
No plans to use it
Pat (36:30):
did we.
Yeah.
So did we.
Alex (36:32):
maybe it'll convince me on one of these, which is, I mean,
that's why Cisco has theseevents, right?
If you leave going, I need thistechnology,
Pat (36:39):
Right?
Yeah.
They wanna sell you something.
Sure.
I get it.
Alex (36:45):
next is streaming telemetry on Cisco Nxs Nx os
again, another Nexus Ciscothing.
Streaming telemetry, just themore data you pull.
And again, with the whole AImachine learning, the more data
you have the more cool thingsyou can do with it.
So this is just how do I pulldata?
So hoping that I'll learnsomething simple and also kind
(37:08):
of, hoping that this'll I'llleave this with something that I
can, put forward is in motion atwork.
The other thing, note in, Ihadn't been mentioning it, but
in a lot of these sessions thatI'm taking, they are, they
qualify for continued educationcredit.
I don't, that's probablysomething we should have talked
(37:29):
about earlier.
For anyone who doesn't knowPretty much every course in here
that has a very specifictechnology, it's almost always
gonna be something that is goingto provide Cisco learning
credits, which, you can avoidPat's fate and Allow you
Pat (37:50):
yeah.
Avoid mine.
I do the wrong things,
Alex (37:53):
avoiding your certs expiring.
And then the final thing, whichI think I can convince you to do
this it's not even a breakoutsession.
It's in the Cisco U and they'rehaving CCNA trivia in the Cisco
Youth Theater.
And, There'll be some prizes andthings like that.
So,
Pat (38:12):
Cool.
What time is that?
Alex (38:14):
it's five 30, so it's one that, so wrapping up the day
with it.
So yeah, that'll be fun.
Pat (38:20):
cool.
That's cool.
Alex (38:22):
so that's my Monday, so hopefully I convinced you of one
or two of those, but if not, sobe it.
Pat (38:28):
That's cool.
Yeah, no just a note for sis,Cisco U is now open to
everybody.
So that, that's that was justthis past week.
So Cisco U is Cisco's newlearning platform.
So, go and check that out if youhave not done so already.
I did.
So we'll see if that comesacross my schedule start to use
that a little more heavily.
But yeah, Cisco U is now livefor everybody that chooses to to
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take advantage of, so that'sgonna be cool.
So, Tuesday is where the keynotestarts, right?
The keynotes are Tuesday andWednesday.
So eight 30 on Tuesday is akeynote vision for the future.
So I'm curious to see what thatholds and what they kind of talk
about.
So that's a, that's an hour anda half or 10 30 is where I have
that one.
I was really interested in theend-to-end visibility with
actionable insights usingThousand Eyes, DNA Center, ice,
(39:13):
and SDWAN.
So, basically using DNA Centerintegrating with ice and Sdwan
to all sort of work together.
So, DNA Center uses or I shouldsay thousand eyes.
You can deploy thousand eyesagents with DNA Center that uses
N Bar and all kinds of crazyactionable insights that you can
get to date.
Get all that data and all thosestats on what you're what you're
(39:34):
doing end to end.
So that's gonna be cool lookingforward to that.
It's centered around iot devicesas well kind of securing those
and again, bringing those intothe DNA umbrella and that sort
of thing.
So that's gonna be cool.
And then obviously as it makesits way out to the SD wan,
you're seeing You're seeing itend to end through the sdwan
fabric.
So always look, that's gonna becool as well since d since SD
(39:56):
WAN is is an ongoing thing forus.
So it's gonna be, that's gonnabe cool too.
So again, hop by hop,visibility, performance metrics,
et cetera, et cetera.
So that's one I'm really lookingforward to there since that
Pushes a lot of buttons, or Ishould say checks a lot of boxes
for, a lot of my day to day.
So that's gonna be cool.
So, and then I don't really haveanything until three o'clock
(40:16):
that day.
So I have a morning andafternoon there.
So I've, I left a lot of spacein there, so we'll see see what
happens.
So, that's gonna be theinfrastructures code one for the
Ns nx o s using Ansible.
Right?
So, Ansible and Python seem tobe the two big ones that are
used in our space.
They're not exactly the same,but they're, they're they get
automation done, right?
That sort of thing.
(40:36):
Ansible using what they callplaybooks and then Python being
an actual language.
A programming language that youcan use.
So this basically does you canuse, your script, your
infrastructure and, splash itout to N Sox using Ansible
playbooks and things of thatnature.
So, again, infrastructure's codeAlex, you said, VX land, that
(40:57):
sort of thing.
Vxlan, e ev, p n, fabric, etcetera, et cetera.
So it gets all into that intothose weeds for that particular
session.
So that's gonna be cool.
So, that is my Tuesday.
So Tuesday's kind of light, butI mean, well light on sessions,
but I'll be cruising the floor,hanging with Champs, whatever.
I'll find some, there's alwayssomething to do.
So that's my Tuesday.
Alex (41:17):
All right.
You'll see me a little bit moreon Tuesday it seems like.
Pat (41:21):
All right.
Yeah.
Alex (41:22):
I'll definitely be there for the keynote after the
keynote.
How to be a network engineer ina programmable age.
So again, there
Pat (41:31):
Yeah, there's
Alex (41:32):
programming and there's a theme.
In addition to helping myself asa manager of people that are
kind of like your classicnetwork engineers, I'm hoping
that I'll come out of that withjust some more info to, figure
out how I can help transitionsome of these guys on my team to
be more aligned with what'scoming in the next five years.
(41:52):
That's probably another one Ishould have mentioned is one I'm
interested in.
Yeah, so definitely interestedin that.
I mentioned it earlier onMonday.
With the Monday sessions I havefor Tuesday, I have a VX Land
BGP E V P N multisite
Pat (42:05):
Ooh.
Alex (42:07):
That is another technology specifically E V P N multisite
that we use.
And this is a much more session,so, this is one that'll be very
interested in.
I I'll definitely take mynotebook here.
So hoping to gain somethingthere that same day.
I also have the predictivenetworks thing that I mentioned.
(42:27):
Really interested to see likehow far they've gotten to, at
this point, how close they areto really making true self heal
healing networks.
That'll be interesting.
Then I'm heading over to theDevNet Center.
I don't know if you had asession over there yet.
Pat (42:42):
I am not,
Alex (42:43):
I have network automation start here.
That's the name of the session.
Pat (42:47):
Oh, no way.
Alex (42:48):
get an opportunity to follow along and actually do
some network automation tasks.
So, I've done a few of these inthe past, so these are always
fun.
I always forget what I'velearned, so I really interested
in learning these again.
But yeah, this will be thingslike writing some basic Ansible
playbooks to do things like setNTP on all these devices, like
(43:10):
the most rudimentary things youcan do.
So if you have n if you've neverdone anything with Ansible, this
is a great one.
Then Joe, the to join cuz you'llactually accomplish something
that might end up being one ofthe first things you do if you
ever did use Ansible, which ispush out a very simple change to
watch of devices.
So
Pat (43:29):
What time is that?
One,
Alex (43:30):
two o'clock
Pat (43:31):
two.
Okay.
Alex (43:33):
in
Pat (43:33):
Well, I have an opening, was that, is that an hour or
what?
Alex (43:36):
45 minutes.
Pat (43:37):
Okay,
Alex (43:40):
Yep.
Pat (43:40):
I might have to do that.
Alex (43:42):
yeah, that's a good one.
And I think it's yeah, it'sfirst come, first serve, I think
is what it is.
Yeah.
First come, first serve.
So this is when you just put onyour calendar.
Well, I think it's by defaultbecause it's first come, first
serve, they don't give you,like, you just have to show up.
And
Pat (43:59):
I gotcha.
Alex (44:00):
if we don't have anything going on that afternoon, maybe
we can walk by around one 30 andsee if if there are already any
people waiting for that.
Then at three o'clock, I havethe same one that you did, the
infrastructure as code for N X OS with Ansible.
So,
Pat (44:14):
Yeah.
Cool.
Alex (44:14):
Those two go hand in hand pretty well with each other.
Pat (44:18):
Cool.
Alex (44:19):
And Wednesday, up to you, then back to you.
Pat (44:23):
All right.
Back to you, Johnny.
All right.
I actually just started I signedup for the network automation,
so I'm on a wait list, so that'scool.
There.
Wednesday's a little heavier.
The key, there's another keynoteit's called Let's Go.
So curious to see what thatdoes.
Then at 10 30 I have the Ciscoice.
So ice ice design deploy andbest practices.
So, looking forward to that.
(44:44):
Obviously that's all settingaround Cisco ICE and the Zero
Trust and all that sort ofthing.
So, really I don't have a wholelot of experience with ice.
I mean, I've been in places thatuse it but it's really kind of
not my forte, if you will or,it's kind of just been this
thing that just runs.
Again, you don't really know ifyou're doing it like right, or
(45:05):
if there's a better way to do itor whatever.
So it just kind of runs.
So, looking forward to that.
Getting, digging into ice andthat will certainly help for the
CC m p security ice specialtythat I'm striving towards later
this year.
So that's gonna be cool.
Then Let's see what make sure mydays are lined up here.
Then I have advanced Dusty WANpolicies troubleshooting.
(45:25):
So again, heavy Esty wan.
It's a session that's very, tackcase driven sort of thing.
It's a, demonstrate failurescenarios and common pitfalls
and things of that nature of theof the SD man fabric or
whatever.
So, but it touches on,centralized control policies,
data policies, application awarerouting, things of that nature.
(45:46):
So looking forward to that oneas well.
Since SD WAN is obviously a bigpart of my day to day.
And then The last one I have forthat day is the Cisco Secure
hybrid, s w g.
So it's a first step into like asassy journey.
So, kind of moving towards thesassy infrastructure and how all
(46:07):
that fit ins from anarchitecture perspective.
So, looking forward to that.
Secure services, edge, things ofthat nature which I, earlier in
the week I had a session on thatas well.
So this is a, ties right intothat nicely.
So, again, flexibility secureit's meant to introduce Cisco
secure, hybrid security gateway,that kind of thing.
So, practical, approaches and,things of that nature.
(46:29):
So umbrella secure webappliance, things of that
nature.
So looking forward to that.
As well.
So that is my Thursday, or I'msorry, my Wednesday.
Alex (46:40):
Wednesday.
All right.
Let's see here.
Doing the keynote again.
That one is gonna beinteresting.
The, they have the chiefsecurity officer from the NFL is
one of the speakers, and that'salso the one, or Jim Gaffigan is
talking Some point.
So, we'll see what that is.
I'm
Pat (46:59):
Cool.
Alex (47:00):
After that I have deploying Nexus Dashboard in
your organization.
Hopefully by then I've alreadygot some info from my, from a
couple other courses.
And then I have a pretty goodbreak there for a few hours
until I do the artificialintelligence and machine
learning for network engineersto close my day.
(47:21):
So that's actually
Pat (47:22):
Look at that.
Alex (47:22):
day.
Pat (47:23):
Nice.
Good deal.
Last day, Thursday, like I said,this was kind of the the one
that kind of wraps up earlier,kind of, Cisco Live.
I don't say Dives di dives offafter Wednesday, but the
Thursday schedule isconsiderably lighter, what you
could pick.
So it does seem to kind of, sortof try to wrap up early.
So, eight 30, bright and early.
(47:44):
It's called one to 100 Masterall steps of deployment,
seamless integration andmigration of large s d and SD
wan networks.
So again, heavy SD wan.
That's seems to be the world I'mliving in.
So again all about scale in thesd, SD access, ssd, wan network
space, things of that nature.
The details, the small minutedetails seamless integrations
(48:07):
how they sort of work together,et cetera.
Yeah, I'm interested to see howthat works and see where that
goes.
So, yeah, getting heavy s d s Dand SD wan, that works for me
all, pretty much all week.
So, again, another one s staccess migration tools.
So if you're, you're not on SDaccess now, what does it take to
kind of get you there?
Some real world migration toolsand strategies to kind of, kind
(48:31):
of get you there with some bestpractices that sort of thing.
So, what else is here?
It's yeah, so just kind of whatthat sort of looks like from a,
I don't have anything now towhat can we do, what can we do
for that?
And kind of go go from there.
So, and the last one I got isthis is the one you said, ah,
Thursday after lunch.
You may or may not get there,you just may bag it.
So we'll see.
(48:51):
But the the last one I got isthe connecting data centers and
branch offices to the CiscoSassy platform.
So again, more sass driventhings like that.
So, Again, branch offices, datacenters, anything in the wan
client or clientless remoteaccess, vpn, tunnels, things of
that nature.
So, how, how that all looks highavailability, throughput,
routing, get all that kind ofstuff in there.
(49:13):
Basically just, it coverseverything.
It do you need to do tosuccessfully design to, deploy
your IP SEC tunnels to the SaaS,solution or platform.
So, looking forward to that oneas well.
That's more of a deep diver.
So, but that'll end my Ciscolive from a sessions perspective
and kind of, go from there.
So what do you got for Thursday?
Alex (49:32):
Well, only two sessions cause closing up pretty much at
lunchtime for me.
Keeping up with Zero Trust.
Pat (49:38):
Cool.
Alex (49:39):
this is just going over what they claim is the current I
guess, the current go-tosolutions revolving zero trust
and demos of those use cases.
And then I have preparing forthe new DevNet Associates
certification.
Been talking about it for awhile.
I really do think in the nextsay, six months, I will get my
(50:05):
DevNet associate certification.
So I'm
Pat (50:07):
You heard it here first.
Alex (50:08):
right?
I'll keep you guys update on myprogress, but
Pat (50:12):
That's it.
Now you have to do it now, cuznow it's on the internet for the
rest of our lives.
So it's all good.
Alex (50:17):
a fact.
Pat (50:19):
So yeah that, that's it.
That's our schedule.
So if you guys or gals are outthere, come say what's up.
If you have any sc, any tips forus that we didn't cover here, or
any classes that you're like,oh, you guys need to take this.
Let us know, hit us up.
We'd love to rearrange schedulesand see if we can fit things in.
(50:39):
So, if you're in any of thoseclasses or sessions we'll see
you there.
So, we'll, don't be afraid tocome say hello and hang out and
we'll be all over.
So it's gonna be cool.
So I actually tried to do like aactual podcast out there and
just like, but little, I thinklogistics will be a little hard,
so probably won't, but, we'llleave with a lot more education
(50:59):
and guidance than what we camefrom and maybe some guests line
up and get some dates oncalendars.
So that's
Alex (51:04):
Oh yeah, I didn't even
Pat (51:05):
see, see what happens
Alex (51:06):
Line up some guest speakers.
Pat (51:09):
Yeah.
So that's gonna be cool.
So hopefully, so if you wanna bea guest on the show, come hang
and let us know too.
So that's gonna be real cool.
So, Alex, I think that was it.
That really filled out the hour,right around the hour, so that
worked perfectly.
Alex (51:21):
That works for me.
Yeah, I think that's enough.
We'll have a follow up one, soI'm ready to leave with that.
Pat (51:29):
On what we learned, so.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
So we will get outta your hair.
Like I said, we're right aroundthat hour mark, so we appreciate
you joining on this very timelyepisode of breaking down the
Bites.
So we will, we it's a week fromweek from today actually.
I'll be flying.
So yeah we'll be on planes aweek from today.
And actually at this time we'llboth be out there.
(51:49):
So it's gonna be cool.
Yeah, it's gonna be really cool.
So again, thanks for joining.
As usual, appreciate everybodytaking time outta their day and
listening to us to ramble on.
And hopefully you get somevaluable insight out of this.
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So, that always welcome there.
I was simply tell a friend aswell, right?
So we'll be telling a lot offriends in a week that we have a
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So hopefully we get some moretraction out there at Cisco
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So it's gonna be cool.
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(53:17):
Rock and rolling.
But for everyone else, we willsee you out there and anybody's
going to Cisco Live.
Hit us up and we'll certainlywe'll meet and greet and shake
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