February 20, 2025 • 42 mins
Great interview with Loral Langemeier! Loral Langemeier is a world-renowned money expert, sought-after speaker, entrepreneurial thought leader, and five-time New York Times best-selling author, who is on a relentless mission to change the conversation about money and empower people around the world to become millionaires.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, good morning, and welcome to Breakthrough Walls. I'm Ken
Walls and I'm your host, and today I have the
one and only Laurel Langemire on the show. And this
woman is absolutely incredible. She's known as the Millionaire Maker.
So do me a favor and share this out and
(00:22):
let's get a bunch of people on here, and we're
gonna welcome Laurel here in just a second, stay with us. Okay,
(00:58):
we're back. Let me bring Laurel on. Laurel, welcome to
the show.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Hello, how are you so good to be here?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You know, I don't even have we had a couple
of technical glitches everybody, and I don't even have a bat.
I feel embarrassed. I don't even have a background ready
for you because we had to switch platforms. But we're here.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We're here, and we're a lot and we have a
lot to share.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, So, Laurel, I you know, I've done a lot
of interviews on this show, and I always like to
start with kind of you, letting people know where it
all started for you, where you were born and raised.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I was born and raised in Nebraska, so I was
in the southeast corner of Nebraska. Big farm family, lots
of brothers and sisters. You know. It was bailing hay
and working driving tractor at seven years old, and it
all began there. And then at seventeen, which was really fun.
Yesterday I was on a broadcast with Dennis showed up.
(02:01):
So when I was seventeen, I got a book from
Dennis Whiteley, you know those where they're on the stage
and going ken, if you want a book, run to
the stage. So I ran to the stage, I think,
and grow rich. He was given those away, so you
can imagine the farm girl's brain what got blown away,
going like, oh my gosh, there's a whole other way
that people live in the world. So, you know, really
transitioned my journey. And I got a business degree, worked
(02:24):
in an investment bank for about one minute and said
this job thinks not for me. So I had a
personal training business. So then I went and got a
master's in actually physiology. Put those degrees together very odd.
But then started doing corporate wellness in the late eighties
and early nineties. So I built two hundred and seven
two fitness centers for Chevron Offshoal Rigs to refine resolve
of the world, and then jumped in nineteen ninety six
(02:47):
to Bob Procter, was a lifetime mentor of mine. We
had a business together for a while. I called the
head of the table. People will pay Bob grand for
the year to work with them, and Bob said it's
time to jump again. So he introduced me to Robert
Kiyosaki Sharon Lecter. So I became the master distributed the
Cashbow game ninety Oh yeah, so I did that from
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ninety six to ninety nine, became a real estate millionaire,
and then jumped and did my own thing. So this
is our This is like our twenty fifth Next year
will be my twenty fifth year officially of mentoring and
mastermind in what I call my Big Table.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So okay, so this is crazy. I Sharon is a
friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I love sharing financial mom my color.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I love Sharon. You see, you gotta know you have
to know Mark Victor Hanson.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Then I know every person that that I just saw
on that breakthrough.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yep, that's so amazing, so so so okay, Wow, that
was so fast.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Lots of pieces and parts to my world. And got
two beautiful kids twenty five and eighteen, and my twenty
five year Olds is getting married, lives in Nashville, becoming
a CPA and tax strategist. Uh. And then my daughter
is in her senior year, and then she'll be going
to Flagstaff in northern Arizona. So I'm about to be
empty nester next fall.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
What are you going to do with all your free time?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh? I'll keep doing this and I grow. I have
one of the what will become the largest uh marijuana
grow in Nevada. I'm right in the middle of not
quite in the middle, but I'm right on the ninety
five between I'm in northern Nevada and Lake Tahoe area
and Vegas. So my farm is like two hours two
and a half hours south and four and a half
hours north right in than thoroughfare, thirty thirty three acres.
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So I'll be growing medical marijuana and marijuana and doing
this keeping teaching. I just love this. I mean I
would see here.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Let me give you full screen. I want to see
that book The Millionaire Maker. Okay, so let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, first I got to show you this one too.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Let me give you full screen again.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, yeah, So this was a two thousand and five right,
and this was twenty twenty two because I had to
actually make sure this worked. So my kids were millionaires
on paper by age ten. So I teach these Really,
I shouldn't say extreme. I mean there are normal strategies,
but most people don't know how to put them together.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
That's insane. Okay, so let's talk about First off, let's
back up, because I grew up in farm country, Ohio.
Not nearly as depressing driving across the state of Ohio
as it is Nebraska, though, I was like, I drove,
I drove across. It's like six hours, I think or something.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'm like, yeah, eight of this corn, soybeans, core and soybeans, corn, soybeans.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's unbelievable. So back up to the farm, growing up
on a farm, because I think that that's so important.
You said you were bailing Hay at seven years old.
I've bailed Hay and I've said this. I've actually said this,
I think to Glenn even like I think every kid
(06:07):
in America needs to go bail Hey for a for
a season, thank you at least.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And clean hog barns and yep, and then teach you know,
we did four h we were inn ffa, so we
had sheep. We had pigs, we had cows, we had chickens,
we had rabbits, you name it, we had it. I
wrote you, I was the only one that really got
into the horse world. I love barrel racing and rodeo.
But yeah, it's a very different kind of learning work ethic,
and you kind of learn to work on a team
(06:35):
before you even know it's the team, right, I mean,
there's such associative behaviors of you all have to get along,
you know. I had this joke with my parents, I said,
the only reason you have all these kids is so
we're your workforce.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Right. That's true though, right, So I think that you know,
and people that haven't bailed hey, I actually I remember
one time somebody called a farmer I worked for calls hey,
I need you to come out as getting ready to rain.
We got to pick up all these bails and get
them in the barn before the rain hits. And I'm like, okay.
And and I had on these these swimming trunks and
(07:08):
a T shirt. Terribly bad idea to go bail hey
in that attire, Just so you know. But anyway, I
do think that you know, that does form a very
strong work ethic and That's so important when it comes
to success. So talk about when you when if you
would talk about when you made that, because I'm trying
(07:31):
to go back. You went through that really really fast.
So you you worked in corporate and you said, no,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Do this minute, Like I really didn't even work there
for thirty days. I was like I was an investment bank.
I thought people get up, like first of that, they
sit traffic for hours, because I was in San Francisco,
sit in traffic to get there, and then you sit there.
It's like, no, not doing any of this, Like this
is crazy to be an entrepreneur. Didn't know how to
be an entrepreneur. I mean, but when you really think
about it, Farming is an entrepreneur. Like I wasn't raised
(08:01):
in that psychology of you know, we have our own company,
we have our own you know. It wasn't raised like that.
It was just this do like generations just you know,
continue to work.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So when you decide when you left there is that's
when you became an entrepreneur. You started your own own life.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I was seventeen because I didn't want to get a
job during college to supplement going to a private university
in Nebraska. So again got a little job for a
minute and said, this is ridiculous. And I knew I
remember being in this gym and people were following other
people around, or that's what it looked like. And I said,
I'd asked the owner. I said, what what are they doing?
(08:40):
And they said that's called personal training. It's like brand new.
This was like an eighty for eighty five. I said
how much do they make? And he's like, like thirty
forty fifty bucks. And I said, I'm a personal trainer today,
and I was, you know, I played basketball in college,
so I mean I was working out and doing that,
and I thought, I know more about strength training and
cardiovascular training than these people. So I was, I actually
(09:01):
have my own personal training business through college. Is how
I got to work my way through college. And then
I kind of broke into the corporate wellness. So went
back to that bank that I worked at and I said,
if you give me a small budget, I will build
you a fitness center in the basement for your employees too.
Then you could do like some health incentives. So this
is probably eighty seven eighty eighty nine is when I
just kind of started making step up and then yeah.
(09:23):
So then it just kind of went from there. And
then in ninety two, I think ninety twoish I or
ninetyish I applied for this little tiny ad the paper
that said fitness trainer expert looking like chef was an
ad for Chevron, And so I'm in Nebraska area doing
all this and there was this little ad the paper
and I thought, well, there's no way they're going to
hire some Nebraska farm girl to go work on off roalries.
(09:45):
I don't even know what optional OVERRK is. I don't
even know what it looks like. So they but I
to go to New Orleans, and I was in my twenties,
so I'm like, well, it's a free trip and I'm
going to party in the French Quarter and check it
out for the first time. So I went really thinking
there's no way in hat I'm going to get hired.
They flew me out in the helicapter to a rig
and I hard had those little jumpsuits on, and you know,
(10:07):
like you know, with the big glasses and everything, and
I remember flying back in on the helicopter and the
engineer looks at me. He said, so do you think
you can do this? He said, we need two hundred
and seventy two fit in a centers. You'll have millions
of dollars and you're going to orchestrate it. And I
remembers twenty four years old, I said, oh absolutely, And
I'm thinking, what you've got a Barbara like I call
those yes moments where you say yes, you have no
freaking idea what you're doing and then and they're real
(10:30):
key to success in that breakthrough. And I think this
is so key for everyone to get is it's not
that I knew how to do it. I knew I
knew how to lead it. I was going to go
find people. So then I got my wits about me
for like two minutes and I said, so who else
bid on this contract? And he said, well, LSU there's
a bunch of engineers that wanted to do it. And
I thought, obviously, I'm going to need engineers. So what
do you think I did? I did a party of
(10:51):
New Orleans, I got I rented a cart, I drove
down to l SU and I said, look, I got
the contract. And I said, but I need people, and
I need engineers, and we're going to figure this out
because no one had never done it before so yeah,
of Conics boxes. So we took Conics those real cars
and if there was twenty men, they got one where
they got one like forty by twenty and if there
(11:12):
was like forty men that so so we just kept
building these conics, you know, we hooking him together. And
then we engineered them up on the side of the
rigs so they had a separate because you could at
that time, you can still smoke on the rigs, and
I said, you can't have you know, cardivascular work in
the smoking environment. So then we had to level them
(11:32):
off to the out side. So yeah, we just got creative.
It was fascinating. But then I thought that changed me
so much can because you're thinking person in a male
dominated world. There's over three thousand men, there's all the
maybe thirty women at that time that were working offshore.
So I'd have security guards, bodyguards, I mean at all times.
It was crazy. It was the craziest work environment. And
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I flew off shore for five days and I'd fly
back and then i'd hang out, then I flew back offshore,
and then i'd go back to New Orleans for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Well, so you're saying when you say offshore. You mean
out to oil rigs in the middle of the ocean.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Well, in the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, so I was
from Destined Dome, Florida to Corpus Christi, Texas. That whole
area goes word the fitness centers for chepherond two hundred
seventy two. So sometimes you would fly for hours in
helicopters to go deep, deep, deep, they call it deep water.
So yeah, it's interesting, it was fascinating. It changed me
a lot. Well, I had would there's so much courage
(12:29):
about if I can do this, I can do anything.
So but then nineteen ninety six rolls around, so that
I did the whole Chevron thing for a while, and
I was just so with corporate. I did have to
become an employee because I couldn't afford the helicopter insurance
and the seaplane insurance and having that, I didn't have
my own, so I come theirs. So I remember when
Bob said, you know, go meet Robert Kiyosaki share and lect.
(12:49):
I'm like, who are these people? I said, Bob, like
what like? And they had a hit yet, like the
rich at Porta didn't hit till ninety seven. Ninety eight,
so it was ninety six. And then I just and
Glenn loves this story though. I love that we're both
really good friends of Glen moorshow I love that man.
But I literally and then like, I was teased so
much by my like fellow executives at Shevard. They're like,
(13:11):
you're going to quit this huge job, this huge four
oh and k plan to go follow a Japanese guy
in a game around. I said, go figure out how
to sell a game. They like, you have now lost
your freaking mind again and again. You know, But I
say that people all the time. I said, what if
fris Deadport Dad? Because a lot of books don't hit
as you know. You know, I love Les Brown saying
the greatest dreams of some of the greatest ip in
(13:33):
the world is in great because people never published. They
never you know, I always say, this is just my
brain's on paper. This is just my knowledge base poured
into a book. You know. I think over esteem, you know,
being a publisher. I think everybody has a publisher in them.
It's just not outside of your head. Yet you got
to get your brains on paper. So I literally, you know,
(13:53):
I'm interviewed a lot though, And the people say, what
if what if he didn't hit though, what if it's dead,
porter didn't become what it was? And I said, then
it would have opened another And I think that is
the break. That's kind of the stuff, you know, you
break through walls. You have to keep moving, and you
have to keep following, not just your dreams and passions,
because I don't believe that. I think you have to follow.
I follow money, I follow, you know, I follow where
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I think I have a big challenge. I follow where
big problems are, like why am I doing this? Because
there's like this is unsolved problems Like in my lifetime,
I can't teach enough people how to do this right right,
or how to do kids stuff right, So you just
keep doing stuff, like when I published that kid's book
in twenty twenty two, and this is post COVID, right,
(14:34):
and people aren't books like books books. I mean, this
is also one hundred page guide on eighty seven things
to do between zero and twenty years old to your kids,
So people like, what are you doing twenty twenty two?
So it wasn't really working quite frankly when I first
launched the book, and I'm like, and I presell my books.
So my son came up with the idea because he
(14:54):
was watching Gary Bannerchuk going what do we get an
NFT space. It is we coupled NFTs with the book,
and people get NFTs if they bought a case of books,
so I could become my best seller because I needed
to sell thousands of books, so we used NFTs as
the front to get people to buy what I needed,
which helped me become a bestseller. So wow, I'm just
(15:16):
sharing these stories mainly because I need. I want people
that are listening. Like it's all in front of you.
You just have to say yes more and you've got to, like,
you know, surround yourself with better people. I can tell
you that, like I would not be here without the
greatest people in the world around me.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, I think that. I mean, let's unpack that for
just a second, because I think that Glenn. I was
talking to Glenn right before we got on here and
he goes, well, have you ever met her? I said, no,
we haven't met, and he goes, she is a very
strong woman. You're going to love her. And so you know,
(15:51):
I think that I hear I don't know how to
word this. I see people saying their paycheck isn't going
far enough, they're not making enough money, YadA, YadA, YadA.
And I've been an entrepreneur in my entire life, and
I'm thinking, what do you mean you're not making Go
make it? Then just go figure it out, Like, what
(16:11):
do you mean you're not making enough money? Go make it.
It's out there, it's everywhere. Like just I dropped out
of high school in twelfth grade because they said i'd
needed a biology credit and I'm like, then forget, I'm
out of here. And I'm you know, and again I realized,
at twenty years old, I was an idiot and I
didn't know anything. And so I started listening to Brian
(16:32):
Tracy and zig Ziggler and all the and and I'm like,
I just think that people, and I want to hear
you your opinion on this, because I think that people
have more excuses than they have anything, and they allow
us to stop them from having everything, like literally.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
One hundred percent. Like when people say I can't afford it,
then go make some money. And getting a second job
is not getting making more money. It's like you all
have skills, you all have talents, Like I have a
new client. She's bilingual, and she says, well, maybe I'll
just start some tutoring. I'm like tutoring, I said, translation.
With the amount of Spanish people in the United States,
(17:15):
I said, go find like some court jobs, mediation jobs.
You want to make a million dollars being a bilingual translator,
and you go where the money is. And there's just
a disassociation I think with whatever my skill set or
whatever my degree is, that I have to do the
degree versus you know, the greatest entrepreneurs is you know,
ken are the biggest problem solvers, Like what are the
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problems that you could solve and put the people around
you to do it. And because I know, like we're
so employees centrically trained, which means, you know, when an
opportunity comes, most people have, like you said, this immediate
you know, they'll say yes and then literally in a nanosecond,
they'll have nine hundred excuses of why they can't do it.
And I said, it's not because I'm telling you, Like
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when I teach people to be the entrepreneurs, say you
have to market, you have to have a website, you
have to have a sales team, you have to have
accounty department, they're like, I don't have to do it.
On saiday, I didn't say you do you have to
lead it all. You don't have to do it. In fact,
who do the most make the lass right right? Who
the most? And get their head up and like look
for opportunities and deals. They're the ones making the most
because they're leading the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You know when people ask a lot of times to like,
you know, how did you learn it? It's like you
start hanging out with us, like I mean early, like seventeen,
when I read think Congurat, I'm like, I'm going to
go hang it like these are these are my new people?
You know, I got denied in lots of circles, especially young.
You know, you get like who are you? Like you
don't have any experience? What are you bringing to the team?
And so you just you got to stand in during
(18:41):
those moments of you know, being pushed back and I
don't play that woman excuse game either. You'll love that
whole conversation. Well because when women say well we're paid
less or we're blah blah, it's like, oh that is
such a bs. I make more than my male counterparts,
most of them, and it's it's not because I'm better
than the other thing too that I think too many
(19:02):
people do. And I'm curious on your opinion. I think
they look side to side and they compare, and they
see their competition and they're they're living their their goal
through other people's competition versus you know, I guess as
an athlete too. You grow up in all my whole
families athletes Cornhuskers by the way, but you like, for us,
it's you compete with yourself. What's your personal best in an
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athletic terms, you know what's your what's your personal best record?
And so it's not about oh, I got to go
be you know, can I got to go make more
than can? I got to make more than mine? Is
what can I do? Like, just challenge yourself and get
out of your way?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Uh? You know, I God, you're no one. Or Glenn said,
I'm going to love you like you're my You're the
female version of me I because I I literally the excuses.
So Zena, who's watching right now is in my academy,
My wife's watching, and and I I am an ass kicker.
(20:01):
I'm like, what do you mean You're not going live?
I teach live streaming and social media and and and
so I'm like, what go live? Just what do you mean?
Just go live like it's And I've often thought, you know,
I think I may just be one of those people
that's just too dumb to say no. Like I I don't, uh,
(20:24):
I don't know how to like. I love when an
opportunity is presented to me. I mean, obviously I don't
say yes to every opportunity. That'd be insane. Oh look,
we got Tony Rodriguez on here. What's up Tony? You
know that guy? Yep, that's that's crazy. So so, but
(20:46):
you know, I just think that people have these excuses
that they're at the ready and I and it's the
stories they're telling themselves about what's what they're capable of.
I think mainly that's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I would agree. And I think a lot of people
put a cap on themselves, like one of the biggest
employee to entrepreneur mistakes that I see and I speak
a lot. I have a huge YouTube channel that's where
I do a lot of my family training. But the
biggest excuse is or the mistake. I'm only say, it's
not an excuse, it's in the excuse land is they're
trying to replace their income. So whatever career you choose,
(21:21):
if you really think about a lot of people, they've
capped themselves. They put you know, they say, well, I'm
going to be a teacher, so right, you're going to
cap yourself between what sixty and maybe one hundred if
you're like really get to the top of the food
chain and I'm going to be a doctor, like, so
then you cap yourself versus why is just gonna make
a million bucks? Like I won't look at any business
(21:41):
venure unless I got a seven figure like opportunity in it.
Like I'm not getting out of bed for six figures,
like not anymore. I mean I got out in my
career for that. I mean, but making your six figures also,
let's speak about that. That is the hardest money as
an entrepreneur you'll ever make because you're figuring out being
an entrepreneur and you don't have quite enough money. You're
living on a bunch of it, and then you got
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you know, if you're with me, won't pay much tax
on it. But then there's not enough money to hire
the team. Because what I talk about team team, team, team, team,
team made millionaires, and people always use the excuse, well,
I can't afford it, and what's our answer, We'll go
make some more money what I don't know who? Well,
then learn to market right, or better, just hire a
marketing team. Well I can't afford it. And you know
what's really fun is I watch some people like take
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out zero percent financing and go for it, and they
actually do hire the team. And guess what. The people
who actually take I must say a risk on themselves.
They have enough trust in themselves and the team they
put around mentoring that we're going to go get past
that for six figures. Because once you pass the first
six figures, then you just amplify your marketing, you amplify
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your sales, and all of a sudden, you're hitting a
million bucks. It's not hard to hit a million dollars
in a year, but most people they can't even fathom
it because they're trying to replace their two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars job. And it's like, it's not the
same conversation, it's not even the same behavior, years, not
the same category. It's I don't know, it's a it's.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
A I think you know you said something very early
on in this conversation, and that was what happened when
you were seventeen. And you know, Don Green is a
good friend of mine and he's amazing and and you
know Napoleon Hill put out the blueprint and and thinking
(23:25):
grow rich is an amazing blueprint. Then Sharon did Outwitting
the Devil, which is freaking unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, and then we did. I was a big part
of her. Do I have it back here somewhere the
uh think and grow rich for women think and go
rich for it? Oh yeah, all those like Well I
helped Sharon just you know, I'm in those books too, like,
but Outwitting the Devil was interesting because it was public.
I mean, he wrote it like forever ago, and I
(23:55):
think it was his wife, if that's correct. In the story,
his wife is like, you're not publishing and right after
he passed that, then Sharon brought it to life, which with.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Don because it goes it goes against Oh yeah, dogma.
But I do think that you know you said that
you said you read that at seven, Well, it was
given to you. The key was you read it and
and then started applying it. And I think that there
are people don't realize the value. And I mean, I
(24:29):
publish books and I've you know, I've I've like eighty
five percent of all books purchased aren't even read all
the way through. It's like, man, you're missing out on
so much knowledge that's available and it's literally next to free.
You don't have to go to college if you want this.
In fact, I think it's a waste of time to
(24:49):
go get a business degree when you could just read
a bunch of books and get way more knowledge and
start applying it in real time. Again, just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And that's on like people say, how did you become this?
You know, there's so many like college kids who say,
what was your degree? How did you become you know,
a six time best selling author? And like you, I'm like,
I was just part of that whole Eric Swanson thirteen books.
In fact, yesterday Sharon and I and Dennizuela, that's where
we were all there. We were celebrating our thirteenth book
in that whole series, in the in the Richest series
(25:20):
with Eric. But my my point is, like, you know,
just being in all those books and being all that, like,
you don't go to school for this, You start hanging out.
And the biggest gift I think was when I quit Chevron.
I mean I learned a lot in corporate life just
being well, first of all, I was leading teams, so
I wasn't really an employee. I had a huge I
had a massive, massive budget. I could spend like I was,
(25:41):
you know, spending construction dollars all over the place. So
I had a very different kind of role. But when
when I jumped and I went to work with the
rich Jadportad team, like, what I learned is how to
run a company like this. So if you want to
learn to be an author, speaker, trainer, podcast or influencer,
you've got to come hang out with us for a while.
You have no idea what it takes to run this
kind of a company. And for a long time. I mean,
(26:03):
twenty twenty was a little bit of a blessing from
the standpoint of I was one hundred percent. That's when
I met Glenn. I mean years and years ago. In fact, Glenn,
I'm gonna make He's invited to my son's wedding. Glenn's
watching me raise my kids. I mean, I've known Glenn
person probably four or five but there's I was I
gonna say, Oh, it's just like working under like in
(26:25):
that banner where and I was, you know again heavily
mentored by Bob and Mark, Victor Hanson and Robert Allen
and on the grand and I mean you name him
and then like get deeper in. Don't just be on
the outside and sell the games, Like how did they market?
How did they build that game cash flow? How you know,
where did they go in China for it? How did
the accounting look what's the general ledger look like? I
mean I learned the business of how to do this industry,
(26:49):
but you go to school for it. I mean I
have a business degree. Like that was all interesting, but
it didn't apply here. It didn't apply to do you
market as an entrepreneur? I think that's one of the
hardest things. So I was gonna say so up to
twenty twenty, I was one hundred percent stage in TV.
I had no online presence. I mean I had a
little bit whatever, it's a little bit of social media here,
but I was no focus on it. No focus on
(27:09):
a podcast, now, focus on YouTube channel, no like getting
a lead. I remember March seventh, twenty twenty, I flew
home at twenty ninth stages and all my TV appearances
were canceled. I'm like, like, again, how do you make money?
Like this is a whole new world now getting me
to go walk around and go on stages like I think,
So this is pretty. I like this.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, this is easy.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Got my cowboy boots and jeans on and put my
love the jacket on, throw some jewelry on, a little makeup,
and we're good to go.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
You know, soon I'll be ski gear on from waist
down and then I'm done here. I'm going to go skiing.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
So I love.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's just it's an interesting, uh life, becoming an entrepreneur.
And I just I can't encourage parents enough to get
your kids starting their own little businesses. I don't care
if it's a little I called the twenty first century
lemonade stand. I don't care what it is. My kids
did smooth, they did well. This they've sold. My daughter
had like a toothpaste whitening. Little business helps sell some CBD.
(28:07):
I mean, just get them in the environment of how
to make money versus a job is your only way
to make money? Like my kids want to make money.
They're both really really smart, I said, go tutor. My
son made thousands of dollars tutoring through COVID because people
didn't know how to they didn't know how to be
outside of the classroom. And my son said all and
(28:27):
his mom, what do you think? I said, said, what
do people like that air in your category of math,
that level teaching? Or how much they could pay it?
He said, probably like fifty to seventy five an hour.
I said, go for seventy five an hour. Let's see
if you get it. He got it all day long
and so twice. So I just can't encourage parents like
get out of yours, like your pa. And there's a
probably I don't know if you are your.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Parent, Ken, Oh yeah, I have two daughters eighteen or fourteen.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
So it's another place where their excuses, you know, get inherited.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So you know your kids are watching you. Believe me,
they're watching you. They're going to model you. And if
you're excuse land, all you're doing is creating the next
generation of excuse land. And if you are their bank,
you're creating, you know, again, no ability for them to
think on their own, be creative, on their own process
and do the own thing.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It's true. That's something that I've my wife and I
both have spent. You know, my wife came from Corporate
America as global VP of Marketing for a couple of
ginormous companies. And I've been an entrepreneur my whole life.
So when we met, it was in eighth nine. She'd
been downsized, and I'm like, just come and work with me.
(29:41):
Let's you know, and she's like, but she's used to that,
you know, two fifty three, four hundred thousand dollars a
year guarantee and you know, all of that stuff, and
it's been a struggle, but she's transitioned into entrepreneurship because
it's it's just a better way. It's great way, and
it's it's it's actually, honestly, you've said it. I mean,
(30:05):
it's it's unlimited opportunity. It's unlimited and you know, and
again there's risk that comes with it. If you're not
willing to go bang on the doors and kick in
the doors and you know, do all the stuff, then
you're gonna you're gonna run into troubles. But you did it.
You went you went to Robert Kiyosaki and Sharon Lecter.
(30:28):
You you. You made something huge there that became a
freaking phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And I learned so much. I mean, yeah, and you know,
and you don't know how to do something, you had
to look. I always say, find a model company. Somebody's
already doing it. So when I jumped over there, you know,
of course, I called Bob right back, and I said,
all right, if I could both in the centers, I
can figure out how to sell a game and who
who was who was at that time was the best
(30:56):
product seller in the world, not in gil Kunnan. So
I flew to Chicago, met Bob there and we spent
a couple of days just learning how they move a product,
how they market a product, like you go find the
best and you learn from the best. And there's another
part of that that I want to bring us. I
don't think people are willing to pay for their own
I don't think so. I know so because I'm on
the other side of it. Oh, I can't afford it.
(31:17):
It's like you can't afford like to have the knowledge
base and the experience base. You can afford it, you
just don't want to spend it. And my objection handling
on that where you know, I can't afford it. It's like, well,
go outside and look at the car you drive. I
bet that car is worth more than like what my
tuition would cost to change your entire life with money
in business. But it's more important that you look good
(31:37):
in a car, or more important that you look good
in whatever you're overspending on. That isn't about your financial
base of your life. So I think, you know, again
back to excuses. Excuses, people have more excuses. It's just
probably why they don't have as much money. I'm going
to use. That's a really good line.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I love that. That's definitely tweetable. But like, you know,
hanging out with Robert Kiyosaki and Sharon Lecter, you know,
I mean, good God.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And keep going. I got I had Dolph Druz, I mean,
I was in the original crew, Diane Kennedy here at Sutton,
Keith Cunningham, I mean, you name it. I was like
supposed to the best in the world all over.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
That's that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I traveled with Tyson, I traveled with Arnold Schwarsninger, I've
traveled with Tony Ryan Blair. I mean, wow, of the
greatest people in the world. But just and I was
on the Trump tour and now I'm like super proud
to say that I was on that original Trump tour
and he had Trump University. I know, right, love that
up that next morning and I have had said this loud,
loud and proud to everybody. But I'll tell you on
November sixth, I was like, I'm proud to be an American
(32:41):
again because it was amen rough out there.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Uh in January twenty it can't come fast enough, but
so so so you just said something and I was
I'm watching you, Oh, Grant, Grant Cardon. I'll never forget
Grant saying because a lot of people do say I
(33:05):
can't afford it. I can't afford to go hang out
with Glenn Moore shower like Glenn and I do events
here in Dallas, and we've done, you know, a couple
of events together here in Dallas, and it's like, you know,
Grant says, and I love this, saying, if you can't
afford to be in the room, figure out how to
serve water in the room, like go like, I'll clean
(33:27):
your trash cans. I'll do whatever I have to. And
here's the thing that I've found and I think that
you'll agree with this. The most successful people I know.
Mark Victor Hanson put a chapter about me and his
biography in his life story book. It's one whole chapter
about me. I'm like, what, dude, are you serious? Like? How? Why? Like?
(33:50):
But you know, I think that if you learn to
have humility and admit that, hey, I don't know how
to do this and I really can't genuinely cannot afford
to do it, but I'll I'll clean your car, I'll
do whatever I have to do if you and most
truly successful people will welcome you in and figure out
(34:12):
a way to make it work for both of you.
That's that's why I found that to be true.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
One hundred percent, and all those people, like even when
I started real estate, like I didn't have enough money
for down payments. So I found a team. I just
paid twenty five thousand to another mentor and he invited
me into the team. But again, I had got my
own way to Oklahoma City. I had a huge database
of cash flow people. This is legitimately how I became
a real estate millionaire. And so I flew in and
(34:38):
he said, you have the database of the cash flow.
I said, well, the ones I sold was like eighteen
thousand people. He's like, eighteen thousand, bagall cornet. I'm like, yeah,
I mean I've been doing it for years. Well have
you ever raised money before? I'm like, no, what's that again?
I took a seat at the table and what to do.
He knew what to do, and through that eighteen thousand
(34:59):
people helped I learned how to raise sixteen million dollars.
I mean, he really did all the work, but showed
me how to do it. Showed me how to work
with lawyers, show me how to work with accounts, how
to structure it all. So I and I only got
like ten or fifteen percent. I mean I got a
small little piece of the pie, but it was a
piece of the pie. I never had an act bit
and I had, like I believe me, I had my son.
He was like baby. I was living in an apartment
(35:21):
in Oklahoma City trying to figure this crap out. And
actually that that was after I became a millionaire my
son that year. But anyway, my point is exactly your point,
which is just fine, a seat at the table, and
if you're willing to do the work, and if even
like you said, he has washed the car, take out
the trash, and run errands. You're in the environment of
that interview. I have people that are here in my
(35:42):
office that are here just for that exact reason, they said,
just to be in the of, like my decision making,
and you know, seeing the struggles of some of the
like the cannabis business is the hardest thing I've ever done.
You think this stuff set hard?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Are you getting?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I'm sure the cannabis business is so compliant. I mean,
thank god it's not federal them praying that it won't
be for a while. But it is the hardest and
most complicated. You know my funny saying, Ken, You'll love this.
You know, I was born a farmer. I'm going to
die a farmer, and I'll tell you I knew the
risks of farming. What the hell was I doing? Getting
into cannabis was like, oh my gosh, am I doing?
(36:19):
But I found a team. I mean again, found the
best and the best. We have a team. Do I
know how to do it?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
And frankly, do I want to learn every little thing
about the strains and how to do nutrients. Nope. I
just want to make sure the team knows how to
get it done. I'm not going to learn love all that.
And I think people don't realize that we you and
I Glenn, a lot of us we don't know the
detail of it. We know how to hire the people
and oversee those people to make sure that things are
successful for everybody. And it's not about it's for me.
(36:47):
And that's the other thing too. I love that you
said about humility. It's also about just being generous, Like
I love putting people on our team. You want to
bring some brains to our team? Perfect, We need more brains,
we need more help, we need And I don't think
people that people that are successful they want and encourage
people who want to learn. Ye, there's not a lot
of people who want to learn. They just want a
(37:07):
hand to them.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
One of my sayings is people say, well, are you
going to make me a millionaire? I said, no, you're
going to make yourself a millionaire. I said, this is
this isn't a done for you, this is done with you.
And then I'll back out and you're going to take
your own life and do what you want what I'll
be here, Dolly support you. They have my cell phone,
and so I just think, yeah, people got to just
not take more risks, just lean in and learn more.
(37:31):
And when people say what Ken and Laurel are talking about,
it's really scary. And here's another this is one of
my favorite, like latest probably last couple of years, saying,
there's nothing that I teach is risky or scary. It's
risky or scary because you don't have the knowledge. And
when you don't have the knowledge, it is scary. There's
a fear that's in there, like oh my gosh, and
the other excuse, Oh, I have to trust people. Yeah,
(37:52):
you're going to have to learn how to put some
guardrails on your relationships and hold people accountable, and a
lot of that. Either I could go on and on
and on about every reason.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You know what I'm I really I hope that because
this normally goes an hour and some change, and I
know you have another commitment after this, So I would
love to someday in the near to distant future have
you back on to to discuss more. And and quite honestly,
(38:26):
you don't know this, but I'm an Amazon influencer and
I'm one of a handful of people allowed to live
stream directly to Amazon. Oh I've had I've had Sharon
on Amazon. I've had Mark, Victor Hanson, John Gray, like
all these amazing people, and I would like to invite
you publicly to see if you would like to join
(38:48):
me on an Amazon Live to sell your books.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Done done done.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
The Millionaire Maker game, so again learning how to do
the castlo game. I have a Millionaire Maker game. Oh
my god, wow, it's a I always say. People are like, well,
how do you have a game? I said, We'll start
with Monopoly, then you grow up to cash flow, and
then the Millionaire Maker is like the big I mean,
it's it's it's I shouldn'tay. It's a complicated game, but
it's a thorough game. It's a lot of parts and
pieces because there's a lot of parts and pieces of
(39:14):
being a millionaire.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Is it for kids or for adults or both?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Eight years and up? So I always say put it more.
It's not like a you know, two to three hours
is like a good sex kind of section for a game.
But if you can put a somewhere in your house
and just keep it and keep going back to it,
and then when you think you've got it, my favorite
thing is then rotate. So then I pick up your
P and L and balance, you pick up mine, and
(39:38):
now you have to do it again because you might
not have done the same moves as I've done. So
it's about leading, it's about tax it's about investing, it's
about becoming accredited. It's all the things. It's pretty you know.
It depends how far you want to dig in. But
it's a it's fun game, Laurel.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You do it.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Wait like right away what I said, when we can
do eat Amazon, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Let's do that right, I'll send I'll send you a
link and we'll definitely be using stream yard this time.
So listen. I appreciate you being on and I know
you gotta you gotta run.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
So your audience a whole bunch of gifts.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yes, where how I was going to ask you? Is
there a Is there a link that I can give
everybody here up on the screen.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Go ahead, ask Laurel dot com a s K L
O R A L. They can go there and ask
a question, make request. That's like an open free twenty
four to seven. I ask world dot com Forward Slash
podcast is yes, ooops, put.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Forward slash about that podcast and.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
They'll get two tickets to my Millionaire Intensive. They're going
to get all five e books of my original first
five best sellers, and I want to one session with
my team if they want to talk to my team.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Wow, that's incredible. So ask Lawl dot com Forward Slash Podcast, go,
get some free gifts from Laurel and schedule time only
if you want to change your life, you're right ex
If you like stay being stuck, then definitely don't go there.
Yeah kidding, go like go. It's like crazy. So Laurel,
(41:20):
thank you. If you can hang on for another minute
with me, I'm gonna wrap this up really fast. And
if you have okay, all right, So everybody go to
ask Laurel dot com Forward Slash Podcast and get the
free gifts, get get a consult and and and follow
this woman everywhere, literally follow her everywhere because you're a
(41:44):
you're a badass.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I mean, go to my YouTube channels. Laura Lingmou of
the Millionaire Maker have a huge YouTube channel, every piece
of content and five years and it's family friendly. So
five years and up. I mean, I don't give you
three years into it. You just want part of that
is just that whole conscious. You just want that conversation
in your household and not negative excuse one.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
So I love it. I love it. Thank you guys
for watching. If you haven't shared this out, there is
time for you to redeem yourself and share this out
right now. So thank you so much. Laurel. Stay with me,
I'll be right back with you. Thank you, Thank you, guys,
Hey, good morning, and welcome to Breakthrough Walls. I'm Ken
Walls and I'm your host, and today I have the
one and only Laurel Langemire on the show. And this
woman is absolutely incredible. She's known as the Millionaire Maker.
So do me a favor and share this out and
(00:22):
let's get a bunch of people on here, and we're
gonna welcome Laurel here in just a second, stay with us. Okay,
(00:58):
we're back. Let me bring Laurel on. Laurel, welcome to
the show.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Hello, how are you so good to be here?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You know, I don't even have we had a couple
of technical glitches everybody, and I don't even have a bat.
I feel embarrassed. I don't even have a background ready
for you because we had to switch platforms. But we're here.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We're here, and we're a lot and we have a
lot to share.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, So, Laurel, I you know, I've done a lot
of interviews on this show, and I always like to
start with kind of you, letting people know where it
all started for you, where you were born and raised.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I was born and raised in Nebraska, so I was
in the southeast corner of Nebraska. Big farm family, lots
of brothers and sisters. You know. It was bailing hay
and working driving tractor at seven years old, and it
all began there. And then at seventeen, which was really fun.
Yesterday I was on a broadcast with Dennis showed up.
(02:01):
So when I was seventeen, I got a book from
Dennis Whiteley, you know those where they're on the stage
and going ken, if you want a book, run to
the stage. So I ran to the stage, I think,
and grow rich. He was given those away, so you
can imagine the farm girl's brain what got blown away,
going like, oh my gosh, there's a whole other way
that people live in the world. So, you know, really
transitioned my journey. And I got a business degree, worked
(02:24):
in an investment bank for about one minute and said
this job thinks not for me. So I had a
personal training business. So then I went and got a
master's in actually physiology. Put those degrees together very odd.
But then started doing corporate wellness in the late eighties
and early nineties. So I built two hundred and seven
two fitness centers for Chevron Offshoal Rigs to refine resolve
of the world, and then jumped in nineteen ninety six
(02:47):
to Bob Procter, was a lifetime mentor of mine. We
had a business together for a while. I called the
head of the table. People will pay Bob grand for
the year to work with them, and Bob said it's
time to jump again. So he introduced me to Robert
Kiyosaki Sharon Lecter. So I became the master distributed the
Cashbow game ninety Oh yeah, so I did that from
(03:08):
ninety six to ninety nine, became a real estate millionaire,
and then jumped and did my own thing. So this
is our This is like our twenty fifth Next year
will be my twenty fifth year officially of mentoring and
mastermind in what I call my Big Table.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So okay, so this is crazy. I Sharon is a
friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I love sharing financial mom my color.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I love Sharon. You see, you gotta know you have
to know Mark Victor Hanson.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Then I know every person that that I just saw
on that breakthrough.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yep, that's so amazing, so so so okay, Wow, that
was so fast.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Lots of pieces and parts to my world. And got
two beautiful kids twenty five and eighteen, and my twenty
five year Olds is getting married, lives in Nashville, becoming
a CPA and tax strategist. Uh. And then my daughter
is in her senior year, and then she'll be going
to Flagstaff in northern Arizona. So I'm about to be
empty nester next fall.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
What are you going to do with all your free time?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh? I'll keep doing this and I grow. I have
one of the what will become the largest uh marijuana
grow in Nevada. I'm right in the middle of not
quite in the middle, but I'm right on the ninety
five between I'm in northern Nevada and Lake Tahoe area
and Vegas. So my farm is like two hours two
and a half hours south and four and a half
hours north right in than thoroughfare, thirty thirty three acres.
(04:34):
So I'll be growing medical marijuana and marijuana and doing
this keeping teaching. I just love this. I mean I
would see here.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Let me give you full screen. I want to see
that book The Millionaire Maker. Okay, so let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, first I got to show you this one too.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Let me give you full screen again.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, yeah, So this was a two thousand and five right,
and this was twenty twenty two because I had to
actually make sure this worked. So my kids were millionaires
on paper by age ten. So I teach these Really,
I shouldn't say extreme. I mean there are normal strategies,
but most people don't know how to put them together.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
That's insane. Okay, so let's talk about First off, let's
back up, because I grew up in farm country, Ohio.
Not nearly as depressing driving across the state of Ohio
as it is Nebraska, though, I was like, I drove,
I drove across. It's like six hours, I think or something.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'm like, yeah, eight of this corn, soybeans, core and soybeans, corn, soybeans.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's unbelievable. So back up to the farm, growing up
on a farm, because I think that that's so important.
You said you were bailing Hay at seven years old.
I've bailed Hay and I've said this. I've actually said this,
I think to Glenn even like I think every kid
(06:07):
in America needs to go bail Hey for a for
a season, thank you at least.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And clean hog barns and yep, and then teach you know,
we did four h we were inn ffa, so we
had sheep. We had pigs, we had cows, we had chickens,
we had rabbits, you name it, we had it. I
wrote you, I was the only one that really got
into the horse world. I love barrel racing and rodeo.
But yeah, it's a very different kind of learning work ethic,
and you kind of learn to work on a team
(06:35):
before you even know it's the team, right, I mean,
there's such associative behaviors of you all have to get along,
you know. I had this joke with my parents, I said,
the only reason you have all these kids is so
we're your workforce.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Right. That's true though, right, So I think that you know,
and people that haven't bailed hey, I actually I remember
one time somebody called a farmer I worked for calls hey,
I need you to come out as getting ready to rain.
We got to pick up all these bails and get
them in the barn before the rain hits. And I'm like, okay.
And and I had on these these swimming trunks and
(07:08):
a T shirt. Terribly bad idea to go bail hey
in that attire, Just so you know. But anyway, I
do think that you know, that does form a very
strong work ethic and That's so important when it comes
to success. So talk about when you when if you
would talk about when you made that, because I'm trying
(07:31):
to go back. You went through that really really fast.
So you you worked in corporate and you said, no,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Do this minute, Like I really didn't even work there
for thirty days. I was like I was an investment bank.
I thought people get up, like first of that, they
sit traffic for hours, because I was in San Francisco,
sit in traffic to get there, and then you sit there.
It's like, no, not doing any of this, Like this
is crazy to be an entrepreneur. Didn't know how to
be an entrepreneur. I mean, but when you really think
about it, Farming is an entrepreneur. Like I wasn't raised
(08:01):
in that psychology of you know, we have our own company,
we have our own you know. It wasn't raised like that.
It was just this do like generations just you know,
continue to work.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So when you decide when you left there is that's
when you became an entrepreneur. You started your own own life.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I was seventeen because I didn't want to get a
job during college to supplement going to a private university
in Nebraska. So again got a little job for a
minute and said, this is ridiculous. And I knew I
remember being in this gym and people were following other
people around, or that's what it looked like. And I said,
I'd asked the owner. I said, what what are they doing?
(08:40):
And they said that's called personal training. It's like brand new.
This was like an eighty for eighty five. I said
how much do they make? And he's like, like thirty
forty fifty bucks. And I said, I'm a personal trainer today,
and I was, you know, I played basketball in college,
so I mean I was working out and doing that,
and I thought, I know more about strength training and
cardiovascular training than these people. So I was, I actually
(09:01):
have my own personal training business through college. Is how
I got to work my way through college. And then
I kind of broke into the corporate wellness. So went
back to that bank that I worked at and I said,
if you give me a small budget, I will build
you a fitness center in the basement for your employees too.
Then you could do like some health incentives. So this
is probably eighty seven eighty eighty nine is when I
just kind of started making step up and then yeah.
(09:23):
So then it just kind of went from there. And
then in ninety two, I think ninety twoish I or
ninetyish I applied for this little tiny ad the paper
that said fitness trainer expert looking like chef was an
ad for Chevron, And so I'm in Nebraska area doing
all this and there was this little ad the paper
and I thought, well, there's no way they're going to
hire some Nebraska farm girl to go work on off roalries.
(09:45):
I don't even know what optional OVERRK is. I don't
even know what it looks like. So they but I
to go to New Orleans, and I was in my twenties,
so I'm like, well, it's a free trip and I'm
going to party in the French Quarter and check it
out for the first time. So I went really thinking
there's no way in hat I'm going to get hired.
They flew me out in the helicapter to a rig
and I hard had those little jumpsuits on, and you know,
(10:07):
like you know, with the big glasses and everything, and
I remember flying back in on the helicopter and the
engineer looks at me. He said, so do you think
you can do this? He said, we need two hundred
and seventy two fit in a centers. You'll have millions
of dollars and you're going to orchestrate it. And I
remembers twenty four years old, I said, oh absolutely, And
I'm thinking, what you've got a Barbara like I call
those yes moments where you say yes, you have no
freaking idea what you're doing and then and they're real
(10:30):
key to success in that breakthrough. And I think this
is so key for everyone to get is it's not
that I knew how to do it. I knew I
knew how to lead it. I was going to go
find people. So then I got my wits about me
for like two minutes and I said, so who else
bid on this contract? And he said, well, LSU there's
a bunch of engineers that wanted to do it. And
I thought, obviously, I'm going to need engineers. So what
do you think I did? I did a party of
(10:51):
New Orleans, I got I rented a cart, I drove
down to l SU and I said, look, I got
the contract. And I said, but I need people, and
I need engineers, and we're going to figure this out
because no one had never done it before so yeah,
of Conics boxes. So we took Conics those real cars
and if there was twenty men, they got one where
they got one like forty by twenty and if there
(11:12):
was like forty men that so so we just kept
building these conics, you know, we hooking him together. And
then we engineered them up on the side of the
rigs so they had a separate because you could at
that time, you can still smoke on the rigs, and
I said, you can't have you know, cardivascular work in
the smoking environment. So then we had to level them
(11:32):
off to the out side. So yeah, we just got creative.
It was fascinating. But then I thought that changed me
so much can because you're thinking person in a male
dominated world. There's over three thousand men, there's all the
maybe thirty women at that time that were working offshore.
So I'd have security guards, bodyguards, I mean at all times.
It was crazy. It was the craziest work environment. And
(11:52):
I flew off shore for five days and I'd fly
back and then i'd hang out, then I flew back offshore,
and then i'd go back to New Orleans for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Well, so you're saying when you say offshore. You mean
out to oil rigs in the middle of the ocean.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Well, in the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, so I was
from Destined Dome, Florida to Corpus Christi, Texas. That whole
area goes word the fitness centers for chepherond two hundred
seventy two. So sometimes you would fly for hours in
helicopters to go deep, deep, deep, they call it deep water.
So yeah, it's interesting, it was fascinating. It changed me
a lot. Well, I had would there's so much courage
(12:29):
about if I can do this, I can do anything.
So but then nineteen ninety six rolls around, so that
I did the whole Chevron thing for a while, and
I was just so with corporate. I did have to
become an employee because I couldn't afford the helicopter insurance
and the seaplane insurance and having that, I didn't have
my own, so I come theirs. So I remember when
Bob said, you know, go meet Robert Kiyosaki share and lect.
(12:49):
I'm like, who are these people? I said, Bob, like
what like? And they had a hit yet, like the
rich at Porta didn't hit till ninety seven. Ninety eight,
so it was ninety six. And then I just and
Glenn loves this story though. I love that we're both
really good friends of Glen moorshow I love that man.
But I literally and then like, I was teased so
much by my like fellow executives at Shevard. They're like,
(13:11):
you're going to quit this huge job, this huge four
oh and k plan to go follow a Japanese guy
in a game around. I said, go figure out how
to sell a game. They like, you have now lost
your freaking mind again and again. You know, But I
say that people all the time. I said, what if
fris Deadport Dad? Because a lot of books don't hit
as you know. You know, I love Les Brown saying
the greatest dreams of some of the greatest ip in
(13:33):
the world is in great because people never published. They
never you know, I always say, this is just my
brain's on paper. This is just my knowledge base poured
into a book. You know. I think over esteem, you know,
being a publisher. I think everybody has a publisher in them.
It's just not outside of your head. Yet you got
to get your brains on paper. So I literally, you know,
(13:53):
I'm interviewed a lot though, And the people say, what
if what if he didn't hit though, what if it's dead,
porter didn't become what it was? And I said, then
it would have opened another And I think that is
the break. That's kind of the stuff, you know, you
break through walls. You have to keep moving, and you
have to keep following, not just your dreams and passions,
because I don't believe that. I think you have to follow.
I follow money, I follow, you know, I follow where
(14:14):
I think I have a big challenge. I follow where
big problems are, like why am I doing this? Because
there's like this is unsolved problems Like in my lifetime,
I can't teach enough people how to do this right right,
or how to do kids stuff right, So you just
keep doing stuff, like when I published that kid's book
in twenty twenty two, and this is post COVID, right,
(14:34):
and people aren't books like books books. I mean, this
is also one hundred page guide on eighty seven things
to do between zero and twenty years old to your kids,
So people like, what are you doing twenty twenty two?
So it wasn't really working quite frankly when I first
launched the book, and I'm like, and I presell my books.
So my son came up with the idea because he
(14:54):
was watching Gary Bannerchuk going what do we get an
NFT space. It is we coupled NFTs with the book,
and people get NFTs if they bought a case of books,
so I could become my best seller because I needed
to sell thousands of books, so we used NFTs as
the front to get people to buy what I needed,
which helped me become a bestseller. So wow, I'm just
(15:16):
sharing these stories mainly because I need. I want people
that are listening. Like it's all in front of you.
You just have to say yes more and you've got to, like,
you know, surround yourself with better people. I can tell
you that, like I would not be here without the
greatest people in the world around me.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, I think that. I mean, let's unpack that for
just a second, because I think that Glenn. I was
talking to Glenn right before we got on here and
he goes, well, have you ever met her? I said, no,
we haven't met, and he goes, she is a very
strong woman. You're going to love her. And so you know,
(15:51):
I think that I hear I don't know how to
word this. I see people saying their paycheck isn't going
far enough, they're not making enough money, YadA, YadA, YadA.
And I've been an entrepreneur in my entire life, and
I'm thinking, what do you mean you're not making Go
make it? Then just go figure it out, Like, what
(16:11):
do you mean you're not making enough money? Go make it.
It's out there, it's everywhere. Like just I dropped out
of high school in twelfth grade because they said i'd
needed a biology credit and I'm like, then forget, I'm
out of here. And I'm you know, and again I realized,
at twenty years old, I was an idiot and I
didn't know anything. And so I started listening to Brian
(16:32):
Tracy and zig Ziggler and all the and and I'm like,
I just think that people, and I want to hear
you your opinion on this, because I think that people
have more excuses than they have anything, and they allow
us to stop them from having everything, like literally.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
One hundred percent. Like when people say I can't afford it,
then go make some money. And getting a second job
is not getting making more money. It's like you all
have skills, you all have talents, Like I have a
new client. She's bilingual, and she says, well, maybe I'll
just start some tutoring. I'm like tutoring, I said, translation.
With the amount of Spanish people in the United States,
(17:15):
I said, go find like some court jobs, mediation jobs.
You want to make a million dollars being a bilingual translator,
and you go where the money is. And there's just
a disassociation I think with whatever my skill set or
whatever my degree is, that I have to do the
degree versus you know, the greatest entrepreneurs is you know,
ken are the biggest problem solvers, Like what are the
(17:36):
problems that you could solve and put the people around
you to do it. And because I know, like we're
so employees centrically trained, which means, you know, when an
opportunity comes, most people have, like you said, this immediate
you know, they'll say yes and then literally in a nanosecond,
they'll have nine hundred excuses of why they can't do it.
And I said, it's not because I'm telling you, Like
(17:57):
when I teach people to be the entrepreneurs, say you
have to market, you have to have a website, you
have to have a sales team, you have to have
accounty department, they're like, I don't have to do it.
On saiday, I didn't say you do you have to
lead it all. You don't have to do it. In fact,
who do the most make the lass right right? Who
the most? And get their head up and like look
for opportunities and deals. They're the ones making the most
because they're leading the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You know when people ask a lot of times to like,
you know, how did you learn it? It's like you
start hanging out with us, like I mean early, like seventeen,
when I read think Congurat, I'm like, I'm going to
go hang it like these are these are my new people?
You know, I got denied in lots of circles, especially young.
You know, you get like who are you? Like you
don't have any experience? What are you bringing to the team?
And so you just you got to stand in during
(18:41):
those moments of you know, being pushed back and I
don't play that woman excuse game either. You'll love that
whole conversation. Well because when women say well we're paid
less or we're blah blah, it's like, oh that is
such a bs. I make more than my male counterparts,
most of them, and it's it's not because I'm better
than the other thing too that I think too many
(19:02):
people do. And I'm curious on your opinion. I think
they look side to side and they compare, and they
see their competition and they're they're living their their goal
through other people's competition versus you know, I guess as
an athlete too. You grow up in all my whole
families athletes Cornhuskers by the way, but you like, for us,
it's you compete with yourself. What's your personal best in an
(19:25):
athletic terms, you know what's your what's your personal best record?
And so it's not about oh, I got to go
be you know, can I got to go make more
than can? I got to make more than mine? Is
what can I do? Like, just challenge yourself and get
out of your way?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Uh? You know, I God, you're no one. Or Glenn said,
I'm going to love you like you're my You're the
female version of me I because I I literally the excuses.
So Zena, who's watching right now is in my academy,
My wife's watching, and and I I am an ass kicker.
(20:01):
I'm like, what do you mean You're not going live?
I teach live streaming and social media and and and
so I'm like, what go live? Just what do you mean?
Just go live like it's And I've often thought, you know,
I think I may just be one of those people
that's just too dumb to say no. Like I I don't, uh,
(20:24):
I don't know how to like. I love when an
opportunity is presented to me. I mean, obviously I don't
say yes to every opportunity. That'd be insane. Oh look,
we got Tony Rodriguez on here. What's up Tony? You
know that guy? Yep, that's that's crazy. So so, but
(20:46):
you know, I just think that people have these excuses
that they're at the ready and I and it's the
stories they're telling themselves about what's what they're capable of.
I think mainly that's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I would agree. And I think a lot of people
put a cap on themselves, like one of the biggest
employee to entrepreneur mistakes that I see and I speak
a lot. I have a huge YouTube channel that's where
I do a lot of my family training. But the
biggest excuse is or the mistake. I'm only say, it's
not an excuse, it's in the excuse land is they're
trying to replace their income. So whatever career you choose,
(21:21):
if you really think about a lot of people, they've
capped themselves. They put you know, they say, well, I'm
going to be a teacher, so right, you're going to
cap yourself between what sixty and maybe one hundred if
you're like really get to the top of the food
chain and I'm going to be a doctor, like, so
then you cap yourself versus why is just gonna make
a million bucks? Like I won't look at any business
(21:41):
venure unless I got a seven figure like opportunity in it.
Like I'm not getting out of bed for six figures,
like not anymore. I mean I got out in my
career for that. I mean, but making your six figures also,
let's speak about that. That is the hardest money as
an entrepreneur you'll ever make because you're figuring out being
an entrepreneur and you don't have quite enough money. You're
living on a bunch of it, and then you got
(22:02):
you know, if you're with me, won't pay much tax
on it. But then there's not enough money to hire
the team. Because what I talk about team team, team, team, team,
team made millionaires, and people always use the excuse, well,
I can't afford it, and what's our answer, We'll go
make some more money what I don't know who? Well,
then learn to market right, or better, just hire a
marketing team. Well I can't afford it. And you know
what's really fun is I watch some people like take
(22:25):
out zero percent financing and go for it, and they
actually do hire the team. And guess what. The people
who actually take I must say a risk on themselves.
They have enough trust in themselves and the team they
put around mentoring that we're going to go get past
that for six figures. Because once you pass the first
six figures, then you just amplify your marketing, you amplify
(22:45):
your sales, and all of a sudden, you're hitting a
million bucks. It's not hard to hit a million dollars
in a year, but most people they can't even fathom
it because they're trying to replace their two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars job. And it's like, it's not the
same conversation, it's not even the same behavior, years, not
the same category. It's I don't know, it's a it's.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
A I think you know you said something very early
on in this conversation, and that was what happened when
you were seventeen. And you know, Don Green is a
good friend of mine and he's amazing and and you
know Napoleon Hill put out the blueprint and and thinking
(23:25):
grow rich is an amazing blueprint. Then Sharon did Outwitting
the Devil, which is freaking unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, and then we did. I was a big part
of her. Do I have it back here somewhere the
uh think and grow rich for women think and go
rich for it? Oh yeah, all those like Well I
helped Sharon just you know, I'm in those books too, like,
but Outwitting the Devil was interesting because it was public.
I mean, he wrote it like forever ago, and I
(23:55):
think it was his wife, if that's correct. In the story,
his wife is like, you're not publishing and right after
he passed that, then Sharon brought it to life, which with.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Don because it goes it goes against Oh yeah, dogma.
But I do think that you know you said that
you said you read that at seven, Well, it was
given to you. The key was you read it and
and then started applying it. And I think that there
are people don't realize the value. And I mean, I
(24:29):
publish books and I've you know, I've I've like eighty
five percent of all books purchased aren't even read all
the way through. It's like, man, you're missing out on
so much knowledge that's available and it's literally next to free.
You don't have to go to college if you want this.
In fact, I think it's a waste of time to
(24:49):
go get a business degree when you could just read
a bunch of books and get way more knowledge and
start applying it in real time. Again, just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And that's on like people say, how did you become this?
You know, there's so many like college kids who say,
what was your degree? How did you become you know,
a six time best selling author? And like you, I'm like,
I was just part of that whole Eric Swanson thirteen books.
In fact, yesterday Sharon and I and Dennizuela, that's where
we were all there. We were celebrating our thirteenth book
in that whole series, in the in the Richest series
(25:20):
with Eric. But my my point is, like, you know,
just being in all those books and being all that, like,
you don't go to school for this, You start hanging out.
And the biggest gift I think was when I quit Chevron.
I mean I learned a lot in corporate life just
being well, first of all, I was leading teams, so
I wasn't really an employee. I had a huge I
had a massive, massive budget. I could spend like I was,
(25:41):
you know, spending construction dollars all over the place. So
I had a very different kind of role. But when
when I jumped and I went to work with the
rich Jadportad team, like, what I learned is how to
run a company like this. So if you want to
learn to be an author, speaker, trainer, podcast or influencer,
you've got to come hang out with us for a while.
You have no idea what it takes to run this
kind of a company. And for a long time. I mean,
(26:03):
twenty twenty was a little bit of a blessing from
the standpoint of I was one hundred percent. That's when
I met Glenn. I mean years and years ago. In fact, Glenn,
I'm gonna make He's invited to my son's wedding. Glenn's
watching me raise my kids. I mean, I've known Glenn
person probably four or five but there's I was I
gonna say, Oh, it's just like working under like in
(26:25):
that banner where and I was, you know again heavily
mentored by Bob and Mark, Victor Hanson and Robert Allen
and on the grand and I mean you name him
and then like get deeper in. Don't just be on
the outside and sell the games, Like how did they market?
How did they build that game cash flow? How you know,
where did they go in China for it? How did
the accounting look what's the general ledger look like? I
mean I learned the business of how to do this industry,
(26:49):
but you go to school for it. I mean I
have a business degree. Like that was all interesting, but
it didn't apply here. It didn't apply to do you
market as an entrepreneur? I think that's one of the
hardest things. So I was gonna say so up to
twenty twenty, I was one hundred percent stage in TV.
I had no online presence. I mean I had a
little bit whatever, it's a little bit of social media here,
but I was no focus on it. No focus on
(27:09):
a podcast, now, focus on YouTube channel, no like getting
a lead. I remember March seventh, twenty twenty, I flew
home at twenty ninth stages and all my TV appearances
were canceled. I'm like, like, again, how do you make money?
Like this is a whole new world now getting me
to go walk around and go on stages like I think,
So this is pretty. I like this.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, this is easy.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Got my cowboy boots and jeans on and put my
love the jacket on, throw some jewelry on, a little makeup,
and we're good to go.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
You know, soon I'll be ski gear on from waist
down and then I'm done here. I'm going to go skiing.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
So I love.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's just it's an interesting, uh life, becoming an entrepreneur.
And I just I can't encourage parents enough to get
your kids starting their own little businesses. I don't care
if it's a little I called the twenty first century
lemonade stand. I don't care what it is. My kids
did smooth, they did well. This they've sold. My daughter
had like a toothpaste whitening. Little business helps sell some CBD.
(28:07):
I mean, just get them in the environment of how
to make money versus a job is your only way
to make money? Like my kids want to make money.
They're both really really smart, I said, go tutor. My
son made thousands of dollars tutoring through COVID because people
didn't know how to they didn't know how to be
outside of the classroom. And my son said all and
(28:27):
his mom, what do you think? I said, said, what
do people like that air in your category of math,
that level teaching? Or how much they could pay it?
He said, probably like fifty to seventy five an hour.
I said, go for seventy five an hour. Let's see
if you get it. He got it all day long
and so twice. So I just can't encourage parents like
get out of yours, like your pa. And there's a
probably I don't know if you are your.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Parent, Ken, Oh yeah, I have two daughters eighteen or fourteen.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
So it's another place where their excuses, you know, get inherited.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So you know your kids are watching you. Believe me,
they're watching you. They're going to model you. And if
you're excuse land, all you're doing is creating the next
generation of excuse land. And if you are their bank,
you're creating, you know, again, no ability for them to
think on their own, be creative, on their own process
and do the own thing.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It's true. That's something that I've my wife and I
both have spent. You know, my wife came from Corporate
America as global VP of Marketing for a couple of
ginormous companies. And I've been an entrepreneur my whole life.
So when we met, it was in eighth nine. She'd
been downsized, and I'm like, just come and work with me.
(29:41):
Let's you know, and she's like, but she's used to that,
you know, two fifty three, four hundred thousand dollars a
year guarantee and you know, all of that stuff, and
it's been a struggle, but she's transitioned into entrepreneurship because
it's it's just a better way. It's great way, and
it's it's it's actually, honestly, you've said it. I mean,
(30:05):
it's it's unlimited opportunity. It's unlimited and you know, and
again there's risk that comes with it. If you're not
willing to go bang on the doors and kick in
the doors and you know, do all the stuff, then
you're gonna you're gonna run into troubles. But you did it.
You went you went to Robert Kiyosaki and Sharon Lecter.
(30:28):
You you. You made something huge there that became a
freaking phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And I learned so much. I mean, yeah, and you know,
and you don't know how to do something, you had
to look. I always say, find a model company. Somebody's
already doing it. So when I jumped over there, you know,
of course, I called Bob right back, and I said,
all right, if I could both in the centers, I
can figure out how to sell a game and who
who was who was at that time was the best
(30:56):
product seller in the world, not in gil Kunnan. So
I flew to Chicago, met Bob there and we spent
a couple of days just learning how they move a product,
how they market a product, like you go find the
best and you learn from the best. And there's another
part of that that I want to bring us. I
don't think people are willing to pay for their own
I don't think so. I know so because I'm on
the other side of it. Oh, I can't afford it.
(31:17):
It's like you can't afford like to have the knowledge
base and the experience base. You can afford it, you
just don't want to spend it. And my objection handling
on that where you know, I can't afford it. It's like, well,
go outside and look at the car you drive. I
bet that car is worth more than like what my
tuition would cost to change your entire life with money
in business. But it's more important that you look good
(31:37):
in a car, or more important that you look good
in whatever you're overspending on. That isn't about your financial
base of your life. So I think, you know, again
back to excuses. Excuses, people have more excuses. It's just
probably why they don't have as much money. I'm going
to use. That's a really good line.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I love that. That's definitely tweetable. But like, you know,
hanging out with Robert Kiyosaki and Sharon Lecter, you know,
I mean, good God.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And keep going. I got I had Dolph Druz, I mean,
I was in the original crew, Diane Kennedy here at Sutton,
Keith Cunningham, I mean, you name it. I was like
supposed to the best in the world all over.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
That's that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I traveled with Tyson, I traveled with Arnold Schwarsninger, I've
traveled with Tony Ryan Blair. I mean, wow, of the
greatest people in the world. But just and I was
on the Trump tour and now I'm like super proud
to say that I was on that original Trump tour
and he had Trump University. I know, right, love that
up that next morning and I have had said this loud,
loud and proud to everybody. But I'll tell you on
November sixth, I was like, I'm proud to be an American
(32:41):
again because it was amen rough out there.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Uh in January twenty it can't come fast enough, but
so so so you just said something and I was
I'm watching you, Oh, Grant, Grant Cardon. I'll never forget
Grant saying because a lot of people do say I
(33:05):
can't afford it. I can't afford to go hang out
with Glenn Moore shower like Glenn and I do events
here in Dallas, and we've done, you know, a couple
of events together here in Dallas, and it's like, you know,
Grant says, and I love this, saying, if you can't
afford to be in the room, figure out how to
serve water in the room, like go like, I'll clean
(33:27):
your trash cans. I'll do whatever I have to. And
here's the thing that I've found and I think that
you'll agree with this. The most successful people I know.
Mark Victor Hanson put a chapter about me and his
biography in his life story book. It's one whole chapter
about me. I'm like, what, dude, are you serious? Like? How? Why? Like?
(33:50):
But you know, I think that if you learn to
have humility and admit that, hey, I don't know how
to do this and I really can't genuinely cannot afford
to do it, but I'll I'll clean your car, I'll
do whatever I have to do if you and most
truly successful people will welcome you in and figure out
(34:12):
a way to make it work for both of you.
That's that's why I found that to be true.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
One hundred percent, and all those people, like even when
I started real estate, like I didn't have enough money
for down payments. So I found a team. I just
paid twenty five thousand to another mentor and he invited
me into the team. But again, I had got my
own way to Oklahoma City. I had a huge database
of cash flow people. This is legitimately how I became
a real estate millionaire. And so I flew in and
(34:38):
he said, you have the database of the cash flow.
I said, well, the ones I sold was like eighteen
thousand people. He's like, eighteen thousand, bagall cornet. I'm like, yeah,
I mean I've been doing it for years. Well have
you ever raised money before? I'm like, no, what's that again?
I took a seat at the table and what to do.
He knew what to do, and through that eighteen thousand
(34:59):
people helped I learned how to raise sixteen million dollars.
I mean, he really did all the work, but showed
me how to do it. Showed me how to work
with lawyers, show me how to work with accounts, how
to structure it all. So I and I only got
like ten or fifteen percent. I mean I got a
small little piece of the pie, but it was a
piece of the pie. I never had an act bit
and I had, like I believe me, I had my son.
He was like baby. I was living in an apartment
(35:21):
in Oklahoma City trying to figure this crap out. And
actually that that was after I became a millionaire my
son that year. But anyway, my point is exactly your point,
which is just fine, a seat at the table, and
if you're willing to do the work, and if even
like you said, he has washed the car, take out
the trash, and run errands. You're in the environment of
that interview. I have people that are here in my
(35:42):
office that are here just for that exact reason, they said,
just to be in the of, like my decision making,
and you know, seeing the struggles of some of the
like the cannabis business is the hardest thing I've ever done.
You think this stuff set hard?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Are you getting?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I'm sure the cannabis business is so compliant. I mean,
thank god it's not federal them praying that it won't
be for a while. But it is the hardest and
most complicated. You know my funny saying, Ken, You'll love this.
You know, I was born a farmer. I'm going to
die a farmer, and I'll tell you I knew the
risks of farming. What the hell was I doing? Getting
into cannabis was like, oh my gosh, am I doing?
(36:19):
But I found a team. I mean again, found the
best and the best. We have a team. Do I
know how to do it?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
And frankly, do I want to learn every little thing
about the strains and how to do nutrients. Nope. I
just want to make sure the team knows how to
get it done. I'm not going to learn love all that.
And I think people don't realize that we you and
I Glenn, a lot of us we don't know the
detail of it. We know how to hire the people
and oversee those people to make sure that things are
successful for everybody. And it's not about it's for me.
(36:47):
And that's the other thing too. I love that you
said about humility. It's also about just being generous, Like
I love putting people on our team. You want to
bring some brains to our team? Perfect, We need more brains,
we need more help, we need And I don't think
people that people that are successful they want and encourage
people who want to learn. Ye, there's not a lot
of people who want to learn. They just want a
(37:07):
hand to them.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
One of my sayings is people say, well, are you
going to make me a millionaire? I said, no, you're
going to make yourself a millionaire. I said, this is
this isn't a done for you, this is done with you.
And then I'll back out and you're going to take
your own life and do what you want what I'll
be here, Dolly support you. They have my cell phone,
and so I just think, yeah, people got to just
not take more risks, just lean in and learn more.
(37:31):
And when people say what Ken and Laurel are talking about,
it's really scary. And here's another this is one of
my favorite, like latest probably last couple of years, saying,
there's nothing that I teach is risky or scary. It's
risky or scary because you don't have the knowledge. And
when you don't have the knowledge, it is scary. There's
a fear that's in there, like oh my gosh, and
the other excuse, Oh, I have to trust people. Yeah,
(37:52):
you're going to have to learn how to put some
guardrails on your relationships and hold people accountable, and a
lot of that. Either I could go on and on
and on about every reason.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You know what I'm I really I hope that because
this normally goes an hour and some change, and I
know you have another commitment after this, So I would
love to someday in the near to distant future have
you back on to to discuss more. And and quite honestly,
(38:26):
you don't know this, but I'm an Amazon influencer and
I'm one of a handful of people allowed to live
stream directly to Amazon. Oh I've had I've had Sharon
on Amazon. I've had Mark, Victor Hanson, John Gray, like
all these amazing people, and I would like to invite
you publicly to see if you would like to join
(38:48):
me on an Amazon Live to sell your books.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Done done done.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
The Millionaire Maker game, so again learning how to do
the castlo game. I have a Millionaire Maker game. Oh
my god, wow, it's a I always say. People are like, well,
how do you have a game? I said, We'll start
with Monopoly, then you grow up to cash flow, and
then the Millionaire Maker is like the big I mean,
it's it's it's I shouldn'tay. It's a complicated game, but
it's a thorough game. It's a lot of parts and
pieces because there's a lot of parts and pieces of
(39:14):
being a millionaire.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Is it for kids or for adults or both?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Eight years and up? So I always say put it more.
It's not like a you know, two to three hours
is like a good sex kind of section for a game.
But if you can put a somewhere in your house
and just keep it and keep going back to it,
and then when you think you've got it, my favorite
thing is then rotate. So then I pick up your
P and L and balance, you pick up mine, and
(39:38):
now you have to do it again because you might
not have done the same moves as I've done. So
it's about leading, it's about tax it's about investing, it's
about becoming accredited. It's all the things. It's pretty you know.
It depends how far you want to dig in. But
it's a it's fun game, Laurel.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You do it.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Wait like right away what I said, when we can
do eat Amazon, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Let's do that right, I'll send I'll send you a
link and we'll definitely be using stream yard this time.
So listen. I appreciate you being on and I know
you gotta you gotta run.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
So your audience a whole bunch of gifts.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yes, where how I was going to ask you? Is
there a Is there a link that I can give
everybody here up on the screen.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Go ahead, ask Laurel dot com a s K L
O R A L. They can go there and ask
a question, make request. That's like an open free twenty
four to seven. I ask world dot com Forward Slash
podcast is yes, ooops, put.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Forward slash about that podcast and.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
They'll get two tickets to my Millionaire Intensive. They're going
to get all five e books of my original first
five best sellers, and I want to one session with
my team if they want to talk to my team.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Wow, that's incredible. So ask Lawl dot com Forward Slash Podcast, go,
get some free gifts from Laurel and schedule time only
if you want to change your life, you're right ex
If you like stay being stuck, then definitely don't go there.
Yeah kidding, go like go. It's like crazy. So Laurel,
(41:20):
thank you. If you can hang on for another minute
with me, I'm gonna wrap this up really fast. And
if you have okay, all right, So everybody go to
ask Laurel dot com Forward Slash Podcast and get the
free gifts, get get a consult and and and follow
this woman everywhere, literally follow her everywhere because you're a
(41:44):
you're a badass.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I mean, go to my YouTube channels. Laura Lingmou of
the Millionaire Maker have a huge YouTube channel, every piece
of content and five years and it's family friendly. So
five years and up. I mean, I don't give you
three years into it. You just want part of that
is just that whole conscious. You just want that conversation
in your household and not negative excuse one.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
So I love it. I love it. Thank you guys
for watching. If you haven't shared this out, there is
time for you to redeem yourself and share this out
right now. So thank you so much. Laurel. Stay with me,
I'll be right back with you. Thank you, Thank you, guys,
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