February 21, 2025 • 66 mins
Sara O'Meara, born Sara Buckner in Knoxville, Tennessee, was educated at various institutions, including Briarcliff Junior College, Endicott College, The Sorbonne, and Pasadena Playhouse. She lives in Paradise Valley, Arizona, with a son, John Hopkins, a daughter, Taryn, and three grandchildren. Her other son, Chuck, died in 1988, and her husband, Colonel Bob Sigholtz—a decorated veteran of three wars and former Athletic Director of Georgetown University—passed in 2005. As a young woman, Sara faced terminal cancer but was miraculously healed at Evangelist Kathryn Kuhlman’s service in Los Angeles over 50 years ago, sparking a lifelong friendship and ministry. Sara now holds monthly healing services at The Little Chapel in Paradise Valley, with thousands of verified healings. Her book, Healed - Your Miracle Awaits, launched in 2023 and remains an Amazon #1 Bestseller. A second Miracle Healing book is in production. Sara is also Co-Founder, Chairman, and CEO of Childhelp, a 65-year-old organization aiding abused and neglected children, having rescued over 13 million kids. She’s received over 100 awards, including the U.S. President’s Volunteer Service Award and Stanford’s Happiness Hall of Fame Award. A key figure in child welfare, Sara has served on international boards and continues to inspire through her faith and healing ministry.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good morning, and welcome to break Through Walls. I'm Ken
Walls and I'm your host, and today I have one
of the most special guests that I've ever had on
this show. She's joining us today from Arizona. Her name
is Sarah o'meira. She has the most amazing story, the
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most amazing spirit and heart of anyone that you'll ever meet.
So if you would do me a favor and please,
no matter where you're watching this from, share this out
to everyone that you know, and let's get as many
people on here to be blessed today by hearing Sarah's story.
Stay with us. We'll be right back with Sarah o'meira
(01:23):
and we're back. Let me bring Sarah on. Sarah, Welcome
to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Thank you, Ken. I'm so happy to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It is such an honor. People that are watching do
not understand yet, but they will. It is such an
honor to have you on here. It's a privilege, and
I'm very, very grateful, and I'm grateful that you got
over the little hiccups we've had here in the last
couple of months or so and you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah. So, Sarah, I started this show almost six years ago,
and it was really to help. I was being selfish.
I thought, if I hear enough other people tell me
how they got through the hard times in life, then
maybe I'll figure it out and I'll get unstuck. And
it worked. So you know, I love to start with
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you kind of sharing with everyone where you were born
and raised, where it all started for you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I was raised and born in Knoxville, Tennessee, and today
we have child help very very prevalent in that in
my hometown of Knoxville and beyond all over Tennessee. So
it is then in my heart and stayed there, even
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though I did not live there. I went away to
college and then lived in California, so I've never been
back to live there, but it's very deeply embedded within
my soul.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
We love Tennessee, absolutely loved Tennessee. It's such a beautiful state.
So so talk about like when you so you grew
up in Knoxville, you you graduated high school there is
that where you went to high school? Okay? And then
did you go to college?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yes? I went to college in New York and then
from there the Sorbonne in France, and that's where I graduated.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Wow, okay, what was your degree in?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It was in drama, believe it or not. I was
going to teach drama at the University of Tennessee. Those
were my plans.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
But okay, had.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
This college I went to the Sorbone did not have
a specific course in directing that I had to have
for that teaching job. So I went to the Pasadena
Playhouse in Pasadena, California. And it was there an agent
saw me in a play and asked if I try
my luck at acting. And of course that sounds a
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lot more exciting than being a teacher. And so I
remember calling my parents and saying, may I stay here?
That those were the days as you did that, you
called your parents to say may I. And so my
father said, I'll make a deal with you. I won't
give you money for your pictures that you have to
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have for your acting. I won't get you a car.
I will get you an apartment for six months, but
if you haven't made it your coming home. They did
not think too much of Hollywood at that time. You
can imagine now, but and so, you know, six months
when you're young, it sounds like forever. So I said, okay,
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that's the deal, daddy. And I was so fortunate because
I received as my first gig, so to speak, on
the Ozzy and Harriet Show, a running part playing David's girlfriend. Well,
those are listening to the broadcast now very much too
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young to know of Ozzy and Harriet. But it was
a long running family show, and so from there it
was That was where I met Yvonne Fedtterson, which we
have had a life together, which I'm sure you'll we'll
talk about a little later, but we became fast friends
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from that moment because she too was on the Ozzy
and Harriet Show. Noither of us were married at the time,
and so that was where my life began as an actress.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Ozzie and Harriet. My gush, that brings back memories. I
am not in Look, my wife is on here. She
she loves your book too. She studied in France as well,
in college. She didn't graduate, but she she was. She
went to France to study I think it was language
or French or whatever her major was. I never can remember,
(06:13):
but yeah, she says, the quintessential American show Ozzie and
Harriet really was. Yeah. So, so what happened with your
acting career after Ozzie and Harriet. How long did that?
Was on for a long time, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, we were on for several years, but then we
did other shows too. Yvonne actually her career had begun
long before mine, and she did a movie with Elvis
Presley and dated Elvis. And so what happened next really
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brought us to our mission can The acting was only
a prelude to what really was going to happen in
our life. But a little did we know that at
the time, of course, But we were selected out of
five hundred applicants to represent America on a goodwill type
tour to entertain our troops to Korea, Okinawa, and Japan.
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And everybody wanted that particular show because you traveled as
a general, which was US sixteen. Well, we had done
a lot of USO shows, and let me tell you, you
don't travel as a general. So that was why everybody
wanted this. And the amazing thing is we were the
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two chosen out of the five hundred, and we did
not go on the same day. They did not even
know we knew each other. So of course we thought
we were the greatest actresses that ever lived to think
that we were chosen out all those people. And the
general that met with us afterwards to explain about the tour,
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the first thing out of his mouth is, now, I
want you girls to know this had nothing whatsoever to
do with your acting ability nor that you are too beautiful.
So of course our egos went from here to hear right,
and he said, We said, well, why were we chosen?
And he said, because you're typically looking American girls, and
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we want our troops to understand what they're missing to
come back to you, because they're getting involved with the women,
particularly on radar sites which are far from major cities,
and we want you to entertain talk to them. Will
even give you a script of some of the things
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we'd like for you to say so that they will
thank boy. I'm waiting until I get home to my
girlfriend or I will meet So that was that was.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
What we were originally there while we hit the typhoon
season in Japan in Tokyo, and we were not supposed
to go outside of the hotel.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
They had a flag up that you were not supposed
to leave. Well, we were young and we were very antsy,
and we said, let's sneak out. So we went to
the basement of the hotel and walked out to see
the devastation that occurred from the typhoon, and in so
doing found eleven children huddled together to find off the cold.
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It was the coldest winter they ever had on record.
They did not have any jackets or shoes, and they
were a pitiful sight, some of them crying. They ranged
from two to eight years of age. And so we
said where do you belong? Why are you here? And
they could not understand us because of our English, Nor
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have we they except they said no Mama son, no
Papa son. So we knew they were orphans someway, or
had some way had gotten loose from their parents. We
didn't know what. But we took them back to our
hotel room, gave them my bath, fed them, and then
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approached the colonel who traveled with us and was assigned
to us, and said, we have these children in our
room upstairs of the hotel. We were staying in a
military hotel and we need to find a home for them.
And he said you have what, And when we told him,
he had a fit. He said, I don't want to
hear about it. I don't want to know about it.
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He said, you can't imagine the paperwork had cost. He said,
you find them a home and we said, well we
will that. Will you help us get a list of
orphanages so we can spine them place to live and
he said, well, I'll do that, and he did, and
we got a cab on the base, we got put
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all the children and it went from orphanage to orphanage,
and the story was always the same. They were overcrowded
and they could not take the children. There was nothing
to do but to bring them back to our hotel,
sneak them in and have them spend the night in
our room. So we tipped the maids in order to
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get all kinds of things for us to Tommy Mattz
for the floor and food and everything, and started out.
The next morning. The cab driver got all involved with us.
He knew we were trying to help the children, and
that next morning we started again, and then the children
began to cry in unison when we approached a specific orphanage.
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We didn't know why they kept holding back. They didn't
want to go up with us to the front door,
as we usually did with the cab driver as our interpreter,
and it turned out it was because they had been
turned out of that particular orphanage because of one thing.
Can They were half American, half Japanese, and they were
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children without a country because the Japanese said they're not
ours and America said, well, they're not ours, and so
they were children literally without a birth certificate.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So it gave us the fortitude to go to that
colonel and say, listen, these children that you're looking at
are ours, and we're not turning them out on the street.
We have a show to do this tonight. You have
to help us. And he gave us a name of
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a man named doctor Hugh Morton, who was director of
Tokyo Gospel Missions. And doctor Morton was ready to go
back to the United States because he had dual citizenship
and Edgy come back to the States. He was packed
ready to go, and as we opened the door to
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his home where he would take some of these children,
he said, you know, you're the only ones that have
ever stopped to take care of these children. You said,
you can find them in garbage cans, you can find
them everywhere. But he said, the only thing I can
do is introduce you to this Christian woman who has
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taken in half American children, but she only lives in
a meager little home. Her name was Mama Can, and
we took them to Mama Can. Well, Mama Can's place
was a hut. Literally, it had no front door, no window, things.
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But as you looked in that open door, you could
see two rooms, one room on which she was cooking
on habachi some food. The other the children were gathered
around to try to keep warm, and we asked if
she would take our children, and she said, I don't
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have the money to take care of these children. And
she pointed, I'll never forget it. She pointed to a
nail on the wall that had a worn jacket and
she said, those of school age have to take turns
to go to school because it's the only jacket we have.
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We had never seen poverty like that.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So we talked her into believing that we would come
back if she would take our children, We would come
back with money, and we would not only take care
of ours but that we found, but take care of
the ones that she had for she had ten herself,
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so we would get Mama's of twenty one children. That night,
we did a show for this serviceman and we said,
let us tell you about our day, and we tell
about finding them, and then we said, you know, you
have to help us because some of these might be yours.
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And so they showed up a mess the next morning
at our hotel was stolen army blankets, with rations, with
everything you could think. And we went to this little
place and we built on a little tiny orphanage, but
it at the front door, it had window panes, and
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the children were fed. We went to an open air market.
Yvonne and I was some of the servicemen, and we
bought clothing and we thought, you know, God wants us
to take care of these twenty one children, and we will.
We'll keep shirt sending money over and well. The children
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that those days would wear uniform school, and I remember
our saying, we'll buy uniforms for them so they won't
fill out of place. And we had the whole thing
planned until everyone heard that we would take these half
American children. So they left them on our doorstep and
down the street with notes tend on them for the
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orphanage of So we became an orphanage overnight. We came
back to the States and we started International Ormands Incorporated.
And we got our friends together. At that time. Some
of our closest friends were Debbie Reynolds and Connie Stevens
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and some other actors and actresses that aren't known today,
but they were and that those days. And we would
put on shows and raise money and we started and
then we both married and had our own children, and
but we kept up. We had built four orphanages for
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the half American child in Tokyo. So that was the
beginning of our real mission in life.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So when you just out of curiosity, because you know,
I have my wife, my wife's saying love Debbie and Connie.
She my wife loves old black and white movies like
that's her that's her thing. So when when you had
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your own children, one might think that you went, Okay,
now I have these children that are mine that I
have to take care of and provide for and give
love to and all of that. It didn't become a
second thought. The orphans didn't didn't. It still was part
of your your your everything.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh yes, because we knew that this was a mission
God had given us. Wow. We it was in our
whole being that these children too were ours and wow,
but we thought that that was going to wind down,
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that there were our troops, you know, that war was
different and so courth so we thought that would wind down.
But actually the Congress called and said, we'd like to
give you an award for what you've done because you
haven't asked us for help and you have taken it
on yourself, and we would like to honor you. Well,
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Yvonna and I didn't even know that the Congress knew
anything about it. And we were on the plane saying,
isn't that just wonderful that we're being an order, And
all of a sudden one of us thought and we said,
you don't think they're going to ask us to go
into Vietnam?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I said no. Then I said, well, you know
what they might. And we said we better write a
really nice decline. So while we have the time, let's
write it. So we spent our whole trip writing how
we would say, we're very honored that you would think
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of us, but we just can't do it. We have
our families now, blah blah blah. Well, we went to Congress,
we got the award, and sure enough they asked us.
It was General Green coming out of the Marine Corps
that was sitting there and said, ladies, we need you,
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but we will help you. This time, we are going
to appoint General Lewis W. Walt, head of the third
Marine Amphibious Force that's in Vietnam, to select orphanage sites,
and you build it like you did in Tokyo. You
tell us how to help these children, and we will
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help you do it. But we need you. They showed
us the most pitiful pictures of these children. We still
have them on our walls in our headquarters of the day,
and we didn't even look at each other, and we
both said we'd love to. We got back on the
plane and we said, what have we done. We're keeping
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up four orphanages and now we're having the Bill Moore.
But we got the Marine Corps Reserve Officers Association in
the Navy League to help us, and we put on
fundraisers and anyway, we ended up building five orphanages in Vietnam,
a school for orphans and a hospital for orphans. So
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here we were now taking care of nine or images,
a hospital and the school. And when General Walt would
come over for our major fundraisers and so, which was
a big thing, and the serviceman like McCrow. Grine Corps
Reserve Office Association loved it that he would come and
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they would they would attend and support it really because
of him, a lot of them. But uh, General Wall
said to me, Sarah, I want you to know that
I might be calling you very soon that we're going
to be pulling out of Vietnam, because the President called
me recently and said that it looked like that. So
we don't want you to send over any money. I said,
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that will never happen. Well, of course it did. He
called me and said we're having to leave, and don't
send over any checks or anything. They will they will
land in the viet coom hands. So I said, well,
what about the children. They'll be killed because of the
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American blood. And he said, now, don't start on me.
He was a big teddy bear. He loved the children,
but he had these men to get out, you know,
thousands of men, and I'm talking about the children, and
it was touching his heart, but he could, you know,
he didn't know what to do. So I couldn't sleep
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that night, and Yvonne and I got on the phone
and we said, you know what, Congress got us into this,
and we're gonna call them and they're going to have
to go in and get those children for us out
because you know they'll be killed. That was the beginning
of the Vietnam baby Lift. Maybe you'll remember that, but wow.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I don't remember that, but wow.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And we brought thousands of children to this. She even
got some of the world airlines stepped in and helped us,
and we got children that went every where. They went
all over the United States. Actually, we had things set
up through the basis where they would accept the children.
What we did is we were not an adopted agency
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at the time. We are now in a couple of states,
but we were not then. And we would call and say,
do you have parents that have already been okayed, because
we have the children tomorrow that will be landing a
plane in Seattle or wherever it was, and if they
will take them, we have the child. Do you know
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that every single child was adopted when they hit our soil?
If that a bill for America, I don't know what
does because every single child was adopted, and so now
can for sure. We thought our mission had been completed.
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We had built the orphanages own and everything, and we
were asked all over the place to make speeches about
the Vietnam Baby There. We were making a speech in
California at the old Ambassador Hotel there at an event,
and the Reagans were there, Nancy and Running, and they
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were sitting on the dais with us. As we came
back from our speech. Nancy put her arm out and
stopped us and said, you two are just the ones
to do it. And we said do what? And she
said child abuse in this country. She said, you know
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that the laws are protecting the perpetrator, not the child,
and said, we don't know two people that can go
in in unpopular issues. You did it with an unpopular war,
you did it with unpopular or problems of mixed blood children,
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and now we need you to do this. I said,
we've never heard of abuse children in America, Missus Reagan,
and she said, I promise you it's happening, and you're
the tube to do it. And I said, well, we'd
have to do a feasibility study. And we I thought
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she'd lost it. I thought, because you never read anything,
never abuse children. Never. And so when she looked at
Ronnie and she said, I think we can get that money,
don't you. And winked, and Ronnie said yep. And do
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you know the next morning, a personal check was delivered
at my door, at my door to start the feasibility study.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well, there wasn't anything to do but to do it.
Right now, we're the largest nonprofit in America dealing with
abused children and a very large continuum of services across
the United States. That was because of the Reagans, who
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planted the very first monies for us to study the problem,
to find out indeed she was correct and how bad
it was. So we started by changing laws and from
their building facilities and starting other programs that have progressed
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over the years. Well that's where we ended up.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Okay, So, and everybody watching, there's a lot of people
watching right now. Everybody watching can go to Childhelp dot org.
I have to I have to share. Can I share
this story? The So my wife and I I don't know,
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maybe two years ago, we were walking into a steakhouse
one night and there's child Help out there. They're asking
for donations for backpacks and all of this stuff, and
so I signed up. I gave them I think one
hundred and sixty dollars that night, and then I did
the monthly thirty dollars a month to help, and then
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I fast forward a year or so later and my
card number had changed. I just didn't renew. So we
are walking into my wife night, what was it three
months ago? We're walking into here, my wife just put
the leak in the comments. We're walking into our favorite
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barbecue place here in Texas, and there's child help again.
These two younger people are out there helping, you know,
get donations. And so I said, oh my gosh, I
did the I did it before. I support it for
quite a long time. And and they're like, oh, thank you.
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And so we went in and ate, and I'm like, okay,
I don't know that I want to get back on
the monthly thing, but I might. We'll see on the
way out. On the way out, there's one girl left there.
The guy had gone home. I said, where's your partner?
She goes, he hit his goal for the night, so
he got to go home. And I said, oh, what
do you have left to get your goal so you
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can go home? And she said two hundred dollars. And
I looked at my wife and I said, give her
the two hundred dollars. So she can go home, pardon me,
and and so she did and took pictures and it
was just it was, you know, nice, and that was all.
I like, that was it. We walked away and never
thought another thing about it. I love the organization and
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what you guys do. Three days later, my phone rings
and it's Mark Victor Ham calling me and he says, ken,
my boy, I want you to have my friend Sarah
o'mero on your show. And I said, okay, who's Sarah
and he goes, well, she's the co founder of childhelp
dot Org. I'm like, shut it up.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Are you serious right now? This can't be real, This
is not happening. And so so I told him, and
then I'm telling my wife later. I said, you're not
gonna believe the call I got today. I tell her.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
She literally bursts into tears. She's like, you're gonna be
kidding me. And so it's just amazing the way God
works in this world and especially in this organization. My goodness,
and you are how do you know? I mean it
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sounds to me like you just don't say no.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well, if God says no, it's over, I give all
the credit. And so does Ivonne to because we dedicated
this organization from the beginning to him. We were not
educated at all in child psychology or child anything, right,
so we loved children. We both love children, but who doesn't.
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But it was nothing that we were prepared for. But
God prepared us for it. He opened the doors. We
didn't know anybody in that field. And so when you
think of what He has done, I mean God can
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do anything, of course, and he did that, and this
is his organization. And we have been able to help
close to thirteen million children since it's in section. And
that's all because of him can And that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Amen. I love that. And I don't want to shift
gears too quick because we're going to keep child help
dot Org at the forefront of all of this. But
there's and and by the way, I have your book
on the thing here. You've got to go get a
copy of this book, go to Amazon or wherever. And
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it's it's called Healed Your Miracle Awaits by Sarah o'meira
with the mark Victor Hanson Library. Actually I'm such an
amazing book, I mean, just an amazing book. I have
this one. I have the Kindle version. Go get a
copy of it. Maybe my wife will will put a
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link to it in the comments if she can find
it on Amazon real quick or is it on childhelp
dot org.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Is the book written, No, it isn't connected you really
to child out. There is, uh the back of it,
there is a little bit about child Help some of
the things that have been accomplished through Kathy.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Lee Gifford is is on the Wow, it's crazy like
you were friends with Danny Thomas too. Yes, Oh my gosh, unbelievable.
So so where is there a website though that that
was on? I thought I saw a website link somewhere,
but uh, there's.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
A website the Little Chapel a z dot org that tells, uh,
this is another part of my whole life, which is
the Little Chapel and I have services once a month,
a heating service, so that's another whole avenue.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, I want to and I do want to go
down that that path actually if we if we can,
because the I'm trying to get I want to scroll
and it's c H A P E l A z
dot org, the Little Chapel az dot org. I'm gonna
scroll this across the bottom so people can go get
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a go check it out. And get a copy. Do
I have that spelled correctly? I think I do. I'm
doing this on the floor here, Okay, you so so
go check it out and grab a copy of this book.
It's it's an amazing book. But I do want to
get into I had the amazing experience and benefit of
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having your daughter tell me the story, and you were
there in the background while Taren was telling me the
story on the phone about the healing that occurred in
your life. And I would absolutely love to have you
tell that story, if you would, If you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Mind, Oh, I don't mind at all, because I wouldn't
be here if it were not for that story. When
years old, uh, And it was when we were just
opening our very first village actually for child help in California,
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and I was told after the operation that they had
I had so much cancer in my body in every
gland on my left hand side that they could not
get it at all, and that they told my friends
Yvonne and then her husband Don Petterson, that if I
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lived three months, that would be a long time with
the condition I was in. Wow, that was very hard
for me to understand because I had two children at
the time. That I was raising by myself, and we
were just starting to build fantastic programs for children that
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have been viewed. And now I'm told I won't live.
As I was in the hospital hearing that on the
television set came a woman, a voice that says, I
believe in miracles because I believe in God. And that
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was Catherine Coolman, known as to this day the most famous.
They call her a healer. She doesn't heal, God does,
but they call her the most famous healer of any
kind of any period, of any date. And indeed she was.
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I had never been to her anything like that. Actually,
I thought it was like a holy roller type thing
where people put right.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
And so.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
When she said, if you need a miracle, you be
at the Shrine auditorium this Sunday, God can heal you,
well I knew that I had to be there. I
didn't care if it was the tent, I didn't care
what it was. I was going to be there. Well.
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I wasn't supposed to get out of the hospital for
four more days, and this was on a Friday, and
I had to talk to the doctor into letting me
out Saturday so that I could be their Sunday so
I told him that it was urgent I get home.
I had plenty of help, I said, to help me.
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That was not really so. And he said, you will
bleed to death, because that's when they didn't have stitches.
They had clamps that they could on you when you
opened up. And he said, you will bleed to death
if you get up to go to the backroom. I
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did cross my fingers underneath the blanket. I really did that,
but I lied. I said, okay, I promise. Well, I
knew I was going to be there at that throneuditorium
on Sunday, and I was going to get there. But
I knew I was going to be there, So I
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called the shrunium and I said, I am very very ill,
and I cannot stand in the line that I saw
on television where people were standing to get in this
run auditorium, but I need to be there. Is there
room for those that are in my condition? And the
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man said, well, actually there is. You have to go
through a certain door. You have to be there at
a certain time, and so he put my name on
the list. I was there right at the time he
told me. I was there at the door with my
friend Janet that took me, and as I knocked on
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the door to get in, she was parking the car.
I'm going to come back and meet me. They said,
We're sorry, it's filled and we can't have one more
person because of the fire department, so you're going to
have to leave. And my hope you build up your hope.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yea, it was.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I couldn't believe it that I couldn't get in, so
I walked out to the curb to meet my friend
that would join me, and as she stepped up on
the curb to join me, somebody else recognized me through
childhealth and said, Sarah, what in the world are you
doing here? And I said, well, I don't feel well
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and I'd hope to be there, but it's filled. And
she said, you know what, I came out to my
car to get a sweater. It's kind of cool in there,
but I'm going to give you my seat and I'm
going to ask my husband to take get up to
give your friend his. Well, usually that would have been
nice enough to have say oh no, but I didn't.
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I said, oh, that would be wondering what she was sitting.
You would not believe she was sitting in the very
top balcony on the last row. Oh my, you had
to walk all these steps and they didn't have an
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elevator up to the balcony, so you had to walk
those steps plus up to the last balcony.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
As I looked down, I realized I was stepping in
my own blood and I was bleeding pretty badly. As
I sat down the two seats. One was on the
end of the aisle, the next one to it. And
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as I sat down, I was so exhausted and I
had lost a lot of blood. And as I sat down,
my body lifted up to the top of the ceiling.
I was in like a pink cloud.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
And I was floating in the pink cloud. However, when
Catherine spoke, I did not hear the words she said,
but I knew she was talking, and I knew that
the choir was seen, So it's not anything that impressed
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me by what was said. I was still floating up there,
and then I realized, either I'm dying or I'm hallucinating.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
About that time, what I did he is there's a
marvelous healing going on up in the balcony. It's a
girl that riddled with cancer throughout her body. At that point,
I came out of the cloud, came plowing in my seat.
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You know, I wasn't I was there the whole time. Yeah,
And as I got down into my seat, it's like
the cloud dissipated and I was in a state of shop.
And then something that had never happened to me before
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was the Holy Spirit was going through my body so
strongly that it not only shook me, but the entire
row where I was sitting was knocked down sideways.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I did not know any of that because I was
up the year was some place sort.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
You already had thought that this was some holy roller convention.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I didn't know what it was, but at that point
I really didn't know what it was. And what I
was thinking was, what is happening to me, Dear God,
what is happening to me? At that point, Catherine came
back and she said, this healing going on in the balcony.
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This girl has been saved for a very special purpose.
And she's sitting on the last in the last balcony
of the first row in a red dress. I had
a red light blue dress on predominantly red, but I mean,
there was no mistake, and so the ushers came kneeling
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down by me, and they said, aren't you the one
being healed? And I said, I think so, uh you know,
and so they said, well, go down and give your testimony.
I said, because I've never been to anything like that, right, Oh,
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I don't know about that. And when I said that,
a voice said to me, like, I'm talking to you, Ken,
you mean I would do that for you and you
would deny me. Why it scared me? I got. I
jumped up so fast, and as I did, it was
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like hot oil. Of course it wasn't, but it felt
like hot oil coming all over me. But as I did,
it was like one of those dolls that you're pushing
or that would like that. I think, come up. I
was like that. And when I was and stepped out
to the aisle, everybody was turning around looking, but I
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didn't care because all the pain had left me. Bleeding stopped.
I flew down those steps. Now I was in the
back of the of the aisle because she's up here.
I'm here, And I said, now, God, I'm here. You
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see I'm here. But I'll never make it up there
because other people were healed and they were anxious to
get up for her, and so they were blocking Nile
and I said, I there. She came to the side
of the podium on stage and she pointed, and she said,
the girl in the red dress in the very very back,
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the Holy Spirit is all over you. You come forward
and tell us what God did for you today. Well,
it was like the parting of the Red Sea. I mean,
there was nothing to do but bo and so I
walked up and I did. I told everything. I told
her about the cloud. I told everything. So then she
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said to the usher unbknownst to me at the time,
I want her phone number. See if you can get
her phone there they did. When I went home, my
skin had healed up over the clamps. Healed up over
the clamps were they didn't as all, but my skin
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had healed up. I was supposed to be at the
doctor's office on Monday morning with the hibits they were
taking me. The doctor actually happen to be a friend
of Don Petterson's. He had me come in before his
other patients because he was very concerned about laying me
out of the hospital. He came tearing out of the
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examining room and said, you have the coopiest friend I've
ever seen. Her skin has healed up over the o
the clamps.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
He retook the tests and found no cancer. Wow. So
that changed my entire life.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I loved God before I was a Sunday school teacher.
I always you would say I was probably I was
kind of religious. But this changed my life.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
And then as Catherine called me and said, I want
you to be on my television program with me, well here,
I didn't want to go up to the Shrona auditoriument
and then she wants me to be on National TV.
I did. We became friends. She ended up asking me
to work with her at the trying auditorium in Los Angeles,
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which I did. I organized all the ushers and everything
for her. I ended up she put me in the
really bad area of where people were dying and on
stretchers and wheelchairs. And it was there that I was
able to see a light around the person just before
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she called out a healing of that person. And I
told her, Catherine, would you think I was crazy? But
I know before you call it out, who is he
is going to be healed? And she threw up her
hands and she said, it's just the beginning, just the beginning. Well,
we went to Israel together and we were having lunch,
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and when we were having lunch, she said, Sarah, it
hasn't dawned on your consciousness yet, but you have the
same gift that God gave me for healing.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I was so dumb that I said, yes, isn't that wonderful?
Thinking it was the healing for the children, because that's
what it is, the heal of your sold so in
a different light, but it was healing me. When we
got back from Israel, she died within weeks. Oh my gosh,
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pries to everybody. We were all heartbroken after that. Emon
and I tried to find others who had healing abilities,
and we did go to healing services, but never felt
quite the same depth of the Holy Spirit as we
did with Catherine until Nanny Thomas called me. You're speaking
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of Nanny and he said, Sarah, I have someone sitting
in my living room visiting Rosemary and me, and he's
staying in our house and he's looked everywhere for you,
and it's father Ralph Diorio. Oh my gosh, why would
he look for me? And she said because he has
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a tremendous gift of healing like Catherine. Everybody said what
a shame it was that he didn't meet her, and
everyone sold him, if you really want to find out
about her, get in touch with a girl named Sarah Omara. Well,
I'm not listening to the phone book. He couldn't find me.
He didn't know about child. He was lost until Danny
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said she's a good friend. So I went to dinner
with them. We father Diorion and I talked like mag
guys so and he said, I want you to take
me to the airport tomorrow morn. Come by and we'll
have prayer together tomorrow morning, and I'll give you Christ.
And I thought, oh my gosh, he thinks I'm Catholic
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because Protestant. So I said, well, Father, thank you, and
I would like to take you to the airport and
continue our conversation. But I don't happen to be Catholic.
And he said, well, what difference does that make? I said, well,
none to me, but I thought it would be to
you that you be here. So I was there and
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that was the start of a whole new relationship. He
said at the time to me. When he got when
he left the car to get on the plane, I
don't know how, but we'll be working together someday. And
I thought, boy, I don't know how either, because you
live in Massachusetts. I live in California. You're Catholic and Protestant.
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So I went thinking nothing about it. And he called
that day in the evening and he said, my bishop
met me at the airport, telling me he was sending
me back to California to do a series of services.
And he said, I told him, I would like you
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to do what you did for Catherine and get the
ushers together and organize it and blah blah blah. And
he said that that would probably be hard to do
because you weren't Catholic and you would be behind the
Eucharist and whatever, but he would pray about it. The
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next day he called and he said, do you know
that the Bishop called me that morning and said you'd
be okay. And so I began working with him to Calvary.
Then he kept asking me to join him at a
lot of different things that he did, his healing services,
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workshops and so forth, and I did all. We went
to New York, we were in Massachusetts, we were everywhere
and we did healing services together. And then he played
a trick on me. At a service, it was a workshop.
He had five hundred people, and he said, all those
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that have come here and have not received a healing
that came for healing, I want you to stand over
here and I'll pray for you individually, and Sarah O'Mara
will stand on the other side of the boating hum
and she'll pray for you. Well, I rose up to
him and said, oh, don't do that to me. Don't
do that to me. That's like dirt and ice cream.
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I said, they don't know me, they think, and I'm
arguing with him, and he tells the ushers take her
over there. Well, I stood there and I prayed ken.
I said, God, don't let anyone be in my line.
I can't do anything for him. Don't let anybody. And
then I got my wish. Everybody was in his line
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and nobody was in mine. And then I looked up
and I said, well, maybe one and so, because I
was so embarrassed, I stood there for a long time.
And so at the very end was a man about
six ' five and he he was leaning over, talking
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obviously to his family, wife and there were two kids,
and here he came, and I said, oh, no, here
he comes. He thinks I can do something. He stood
in front of me and he said, well, you pray
for me. And I said, what's wrong with you, sir?
And he said, I have an inoperable tumor and he
had it was as big as a lemon. I mean,
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you couldn't missish. And so I put my hand on
his chests and I couldn't think of a prayer. I
was so nervous. So I said, Dear God, healed this man.
Well it was enough because his children started screaming. Look
at Baba and I looked up because my eyes flew
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open and I got to see it go down. That
was the first healing that God ever allowed to work
through me. And then a whole group came from the back,
thinking they couldn't get up to fathered Aie, and they
came over to my line and I prayed for a
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little under two hours and about eighty percent of them
were healed. That began my healing gift. And so that
was fifty one years ago. And since then I won't
go into howe, but I have had two chapels, one
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in California, and when I moved to Arizona, what you
now have it in Arizona. And I wrote this book,
Healed Your Miracle Awaits. It has been voted number one
on Amazon. And let me tell you about this book.
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I had no idea that it would affect people this way.
I really didn't. But people are being healed in reading it.
They don't even if they're not, they have come yes
to the little chapel. I've had people come from Europe
and all of the United States still do. There's nothing
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like being there, of course, but many people have written
to tell me that they are healed, because you see,
I don't do the healing. I'm not the healer. God
is and God is everywhere.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Yes, I'm sorry. I have a question though, So the
you said in that day about eighty percent were healed
the twenty percent that weren't. I know, everybody asks I'm
going to ask why why were they? And you know,
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I think about Peter walking on the water and then
you know, losing faith in sight or what and starting
to sink, and you know, is it?
Speaker 4 (56:22):
That is it?
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Because they don't believe that it's possible.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Well, I tell you can't if I knew the answer,
i'd be gone. Only God he makes the decision. I
will tell you that sometimes the people that are closest
to me, relatives are not wow, but people I'll never see.
I have not a clue of their name, where they
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came from, are healed of cancer, of all kinds of things.
I don't have the answer, and nobody else does. Really,
because it's God's call, it's not mine. I pray the
same for everyone, and I wonder sometimes why. I'll tell
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you a story that happened at my very last service.
We had so many healings of backs and knees, people
that now do not have to have knee surgery that
canceled it. They're fine. And my son stood up for
a healing of his hip. It had been bothering him
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for many months. He was the only one in the
entire service not healed that stood up. In fact, when
he stood up and I said, would you walk toward me,
do you have any pain? He said, yes, it's still there.
I said, well, you're a bad advertisement for me, you're
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my son. But but the thing is, I don't know
the ones that will be here. I pray for them
sometimes a lot. I pray for a specific person, especially
if I've known them for a long time and know
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their story. But it's not my call, can it's God.
But I will tell you this. According to scripture, right now,
we are in a period where more healings are going
to take place than any other. So watch out. If
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you're asking God for your miracle, don't think he won't
give it to you, because he's opening up a big door.
If you read the Holy Scripture, you'll find that to
be true about doing for today's world. I think what
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is a magnet for healing is trust and faith. If
we trust and have faith in Him, he says, He
tells us nothing is impossible with God. He tells us
he has a plan for each and every single one
of us, and everyone is so precious to him, so
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unique that it's like you are the only child on earth.
That's how much he loves you. We don't understand our
love like that. If He loves us all that much,
he wants us to be free from suffering, free from illness.
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I've had illness and problems and suffering. I'm not I'm
not always healing when I ask to be healed. But
you know what, we learn a lot between the time
that we're asking God to heal us and the time
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he actually does. They're more progressive healings than instantaneous ones.
And I think it's because of what we learn in
the in between times, because there's no other place to
go but on your knees, So you become closer and
closer to God, and you rely on him because you
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realize that's the only other place you have to go.
You've tried every doctor, you've tried everything. But God's power
is in work work within us. Right now as I'm talking,
right now, there are like four people that are getting
healed of their hip. When I talk about my son's hip,
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I was told four people are being healed right now
as I so. God loves us all beyond our wildest imaginations,
and he is there for us, always, always, And if
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we can just let go and give him control of
our life, it would be so much better than our
own plans. His plans so far exceed ours. It's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
So you say it in your book, you said, and
I've heard it many times, but if you want to
make God laugh, tell him your plans. That's right, right,
Like I think so many of us including me. You know,
I'm I'm a recovered alcoholic with twenty two and a
half years sober by the grace of God. And you know,
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I always give credit to God. People are like, how
did you do that? And I'm like, I did, trust me,
I didn't. That is not my natural state, but I
and then I think about people that don't survive, that
don't make it, that die of alcoholism or drug addictions,
and I just go, I don't know why I surrendered.
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I don't know. I really don't. And it sounds sounds
like it's the same.
Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
It is, it really is. And I don't have all
the answers at all. Yeah, I don't have any of
those answers of why some are healed and some are not,
because I would if I could, I'd go in the
hospital and just drain everybody out of those beds. Yeah,
but it is God's call, and God there is a
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book by the way that yvon wrote called Healing Nods Call,
and it's of documented testimonies that have been healed in
the Little Chapel as a result of being there. But
I just I just feel that those listening today, many
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of you are really going through a hard time and
many of you are sick and miracles sound so far away,
and that God will never heal you. But that's not true.
That's not what he tells us, and he's proven it.
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I want you who are listening and call and are
in that category to call on Jesus now and ask
for that healing and believe that He's giving it to you,
and don't let anything take it away. Stand firm. You
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can find many, many verses in the Bible that will
substantiate what I'm saying, and you can say them over
and over and over again, and that healing is there
for you. Please know that it's there for you, and
it's there for you now just as we're speaking these words.
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That's what I want to leave you with.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Sarah, God bless you. You're You're amazing and I'm so
honored to have had you on the show today. Everybody,
thank you, Thank you so much. I want everybody watching
or listening to this at a later date, please go
to childhelp dot org and give. Just donate, even if
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it's five dollars. If a million people gave five dollars,
that would help a lot, right, And and you know,
go to the Little chapelas dot org and help in
every way that you possibly can. And if you don't
get this book, you are missing out. I promise you
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go get this book today, Healed Your Miracle Awaits. It's
an amazing, amazing book. So God bless you. Thank you
so much, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
You can and God bless you and all those that
are listening. Are streamed every time.
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Oh that's right, yes so, and that can be found
at the Little Chapelaz dot org. You can see the services.
I know some I know some people that attend your services.
So I just think that everybody needs to get into
your your atmosphere. So go to the Little chapel Az
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dot org and check it out, and please donate to
childhelp dot org. And Sarah, stay with me. I'm going
to end the live stream, but we'll we'll chat here
in just a second. Thank you to everyone who's watching,
and if you shared, thank you for sharing this out.
And if you haven't shared, there's time for you to
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redeem yourself and go ahead and share this out. So
thank you all very much and we'll see you soon.
Thank you so much, Sarah,
Good morning, and welcome to break Through Walls. I'm Ken
Walls and I'm your host, and today I have one
of the most special guests that I've ever had on
this show. She's joining us today from Arizona. Her name
is Sarah o'meira. She has the most amazing story, the
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most amazing spirit and heart of anyone that you'll ever meet.
So if you would do me a favor and please,
no matter where you're watching this from, share this out
to everyone that you know, and let's get as many
people on here to be blessed today by hearing Sarah's story.
Stay with us. We'll be right back with Sarah o'meira
(01:23):
and we're back. Let me bring Sarah on. Sarah, Welcome
to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Thank you, Ken. I'm so happy to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It is such an honor. People that are watching do
not understand yet, but they will. It is such an
honor to have you on here. It's a privilege, and
I'm very, very grateful, and I'm grateful that you got
over the little hiccups we've had here in the last
couple of months or so and you're doing well.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah. So, Sarah, I started this show almost six years ago,
and it was really to help. I was being selfish.
I thought, if I hear enough other people tell me
how they got through the hard times in life, then
maybe I'll figure it out and I'll get unstuck. And
it worked. So you know, I love to start with
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you kind of sharing with everyone where you were born
and raised, where it all started for you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I was raised and born in Knoxville, Tennessee, and today
we have child help very very prevalent in that in
my hometown of Knoxville and beyond all over Tennessee. So
it is then in my heart and stayed there, even
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though I did not live there. I went away to
college and then lived in California, so I've never been
back to live there, but it's very deeply embedded within
my soul.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
We love Tennessee, absolutely loved Tennessee. It's such a beautiful state.
So so talk about like when you so you grew
up in Knoxville, you you graduated high school there is
that where you went to high school? Okay? And then
did you go to college?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yes? I went to college in New York and then
from there the Sorbonne in France, and that's where I graduated.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Wow, okay, what was your degree in?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It was in drama, believe it or not. I was
going to teach drama at the University of Tennessee. Those
were my plans.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
But okay, had.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
This college I went to the Sorbone did not have
a specific course in directing that I had to have
for that teaching job. So I went to the Pasadena
Playhouse in Pasadena, California. And it was there an agent
saw me in a play and asked if I try
my luck at acting. And of course that sounds a
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lot more exciting than being a teacher. And so I
remember calling my parents and saying, may I stay here?
That those were the days as you did that, you
called your parents to say may I. And so my
father said, I'll make a deal with you. I won't
give you money for your pictures that you have to
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have for your acting. I won't get you a car.
I will get you an apartment for six months, but
if you haven't made it your coming home. They did
not think too much of Hollywood at that time. You
can imagine now, but and so, you know, six months
when you're young, it sounds like forever. So I said, okay,
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that's the deal, daddy. And I was so fortunate because
I received as my first gig, so to speak, on
the Ozzy and Harriet Show, a running part playing David's girlfriend. Well,
those are listening to the broadcast now very much too
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young to know of Ozzy and Harriet. But it was
a long running family show, and so from there it
was That was where I met Yvonne Fedtterson, which we
have had a life together, which I'm sure you'll we'll
talk about a little later, but we became fast friends
(05:33):
from that moment because she too was on the Ozzy
and Harriet Show. Noither of us were married at the time,
and so that was where my life began as an actress.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Ozzie and Harriet. My gush, that brings back memories. I
am not in Look, my wife is on here. She
she loves your book too. She studied in France as well,
in college. She didn't graduate, but she she was. She
went to France to study I think it was language
or French or whatever her major was. I never can remember,
(06:13):
but yeah, she says, the quintessential American show Ozzie and
Harriet really was. Yeah. So, so what happened with your
acting career after Ozzie and Harriet. How long did that?
Was on for a long time, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, we were on for several years, but then we
did other shows too. Yvonne actually her career had begun
long before mine, and she did a movie with Elvis
Presley and dated Elvis. And so what happened next really
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brought us to our mission can The acting was only
a prelude to what really was going to happen in
our life. But a little did we know that at
the time, of course, But we were selected out of
five hundred applicants to represent America on a goodwill type
tour to entertain our troops to Korea, Okinawa, and Japan.
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And everybody wanted that particular show because you traveled as
a general, which was US sixteen. Well, we had done
a lot of USO shows, and let me tell you, you
don't travel as a general. So that was why everybody
wanted this. And the amazing thing is we were the
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two chosen out of the five hundred, and we did
not go on the same day. They did not even
know we knew each other. So of course we thought
we were the greatest actresses that ever lived to think
that we were chosen out all those people. And the
general that met with us afterwards to explain about the tour,
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the first thing out of his mouth is, now, I
want you girls to know this had nothing whatsoever to
do with your acting ability nor that you are too beautiful.
So of course our egos went from here to hear right,
and he said, We said, well, why were we chosen?
And he said, because you're typically looking American girls, and
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we want our troops to understand what they're missing to
come back to you, because they're getting involved with the women,
particularly on radar sites which are far from major cities,
and we want you to entertain talk to them. Will
even give you a script of some of the things
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we'd like for you to say so that they will
thank boy. I'm waiting until I get home to my
girlfriend or I will meet So that was that was.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
What we were originally there while we hit the typhoon
season in Japan in Tokyo, and we were not supposed
to go outside of the hotel.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
They had a flag up that you were not supposed
to leave. Well, we were young and we were very antsy,
and we said, let's sneak out. So we went to
the basement of the hotel and walked out to see
the devastation that occurred from the typhoon, and in so
doing found eleven children huddled together to find off the cold.
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It was the coldest winter they ever had on record.
They did not have any jackets or shoes, and they
were a pitiful sight, some of them crying. They ranged
from two to eight years of age. And so we
said where do you belong? Why are you here? And
they could not understand us because of our English, Nor
(09:56):
have we they except they said no Mama son, no
Papa son. So we knew they were orphans someway, or
had some way had gotten loose from their parents. We
didn't know what. But we took them back to our
hotel room, gave them my bath, fed them, and then
(10:16):
approached the colonel who traveled with us and was assigned
to us, and said, we have these children in our
room upstairs of the hotel. We were staying in a
military hotel and we need to find a home for them.
And he said you have what, And when we told him,
he had a fit. He said, I don't want to
hear about it. I don't want to know about it.
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He said, you can't imagine the paperwork had cost. He said,
you find them a home and we said, well we
will that. Will you help us get a list of
orphanages so we can spine them place to live and
he said, well, I'll do that, and he did, and
we got a cab on the base, we got put
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all the children and it went from orphanage to orphanage,
and the story was always the same. They were overcrowded
and they could not take the children. There was nothing
to do but to bring them back to our hotel,
sneak them in and have them spend the night in
our room. So we tipped the maids in order to
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get all kinds of things for us to Tommy Mattz
for the floor and food and everything, and started out.
The next morning. The cab driver got all involved with us.
He knew we were trying to help the children, and
that next morning we started again, and then the children
began to cry in unison when we approached a specific orphanage.
(11:44):
We didn't know why they kept holding back. They didn't
want to go up with us to the front door,
as we usually did with the cab driver as our interpreter,
and it turned out it was because they had been
turned out of that particular orphanage because of one thing.
Can They were half American, half Japanese, and they were
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children without a country because the Japanese said they're not
ours and America said, well, they're not ours, and so
they were children literally without a birth certificate.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So it gave us the fortitude to go to that
colonel and say, listen, these children that you're looking at
are ours, and we're not turning them out on the street.
We have a show to do this tonight. You have
to help us. And he gave us a name of
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a man named doctor Hugh Morton, who was director of
Tokyo Gospel Missions. And doctor Morton was ready to go
back to the United States because he had dual citizenship
and Edgy come back to the States. He was packed
ready to go, and as we opened the door to
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his home where he would take some of these children,
he said, you know, you're the only ones that have
ever stopped to take care of these children. You said,
you can find them in garbage cans, you can find
them everywhere. But he said, the only thing I can
do is introduce you to this Christian woman who has
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taken in half American children, but she only lives in
a meager little home. Her name was Mama Can, and
we took them to Mama Can. Well, Mama Can's place
was a hut. Literally, it had no front door, no window, things.
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But as you looked in that open door, you could
see two rooms, one room on which she was cooking
on habachi some food. The other the children were gathered
around to try to keep warm, and we asked if
she would take our children, and she said, I don't
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have the money to take care of these children. And
she pointed, I'll never forget it. She pointed to a
nail on the wall that had a worn jacket and
she said, those of school age have to take turns
to go to school because it's the only jacket we have.
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We had never seen poverty like that.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So we talked her into believing that we would come
back if she would take our children, We would come
back with money, and we would not only take care
of ours but that we found, but take care of
the ones that she had for she had ten herself,
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so we would get Mama's of twenty one children. That night,
we did a show for this serviceman and we said,
let us tell you about our day, and we tell
about finding them, and then we said, you know, you
have to help us because some of these might be yours.
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And so they showed up a mess the next morning
at our hotel was stolen army blankets, with rations, with
everything you could think. And we went to this little
place and we built on a little tiny orphanage, but
it at the front door, it had window panes, and
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the children were fed. We went to an open air market.
Yvonne and I was some of the servicemen, and we
bought clothing and we thought, you know, God wants us
to take care of these twenty one children, and we will.
We'll keep shirt sending money over and well. The children
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that those days would wear uniform school, and I remember
our saying, we'll buy uniforms for them so they won't
fill out of place. And we had the whole thing
planned until everyone heard that we would take these half
American children. So they left them on our doorstep and
down the street with notes tend on them for the
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orphanage of So we became an orphanage overnight. We came
back to the States and we started International Ormands Incorporated.
And we got our friends together. At that time. Some
of our closest friends were Debbie Reynolds and Connie Stevens
(16:45):
and some other actors and actresses that aren't known today,
but they were and that those days. And we would
put on shows and raise money and we started and
then we both married and had our own children, and
but we kept up. We had built four orphanages for
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the half American child in Tokyo. So that was the
beginning of our real mission in life.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So when you just out of curiosity, because you know,
I have my wife, my wife's saying love Debbie and Connie.
She my wife loves old black and white movies like
that's her that's her thing. So when when you had
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your own children, one might think that you went, Okay,
now I have these children that are mine that I
have to take care of and provide for and give
love to and all of that. It didn't become a
second thought. The orphans didn't didn't. It still was part
of your your your everything.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh yes, because we knew that this was a mission
God had given us. Wow. We it was in our
whole being that these children too were ours and wow,
but we thought that that was going to wind down,
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that there were our troops, you know, that war was
different and so courth so we thought that would wind down.
But actually the Congress called and said, we'd like to
give you an award for what you've done because you
haven't asked us for help and you have taken it
on yourself, and we would like to honor you. Well,
(18:48):
Yvonna and I didn't even know that the Congress knew
anything about it. And we were on the plane saying,
isn't that just wonderful that we're being an order, And
all of a sudden one of us thought and we said,
you don't think they're going to ask us to go
into Vietnam?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I said no. Then I said, well, you know
what they might. And we said we better write a
really nice decline. So while we have the time, let's
write it. So we spent our whole trip writing how
we would say, we're very honored that you would think
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of us, but we just can't do it. We have
our families now, blah blah blah. Well, we went to Congress,
we got the award, and sure enough they asked us.
It was General Green coming out of the Marine Corps
that was sitting there and said, ladies, we need you,
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but we will help you. This time, we are going
to appoint General Lewis W. Walt, head of the third
Marine Amphibious Force that's in Vietnam, to select orphanage sites,
and you build it like you did in Tokyo. You
tell us how to help these children, and we will
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help you do it. But we need you. They showed
us the most pitiful pictures of these children. We still
have them on our walls in our headquarters of the day,
and we didn't even look at each other, and we
both said we'd love to. We got back on the
plane and we said, what have we done. We're keeping
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up four orphanages and now we're having the Bill Moore.
But we got the Marine Corps Reserve Officers Association in
the Navy League to help us, and we put on
fundraisers and anyway, we ended up building five orphanages in Vietnam,
a school for orphans and a hospital for orphans. So
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here we were now taking care of nine or images,
a hospital and the school. And when General Walt would
come over for our major fundraisers and so, which was
a big thing, and the serviceman like McCrow. Grine Corps
Reserve Office Association loved it that he would come and
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they would they would attend and support it really because
of him, a lot of them. But uh, General Wall
said to me, Sarah, I want you to know that
I might be calling you very soon that we're going
to be pulling out of Vietnam, because the President called
me recently and said that it looked like that. So
we don't want you to send over any money. I said,
(21:40):
that will never happen. Well, of course it did. He
called me and said we're having to leave, and don't
send over any checks or anything. They will they will
land in the viet coom hands. So I said, well,
what about the children. They'll be killed because of the
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American blood. And he said, now, don't start on me.
He was a big teddy bear. He loved the children,
but he had these men to get out, you know,
thousands of men, and I'm talking about the children, and
it was touching his heart, but he could, you know,
he didn't know what to do. So I couldn't sleep
(22:24):
that night, and Yvonne and I got on the phone
and we said, you know what, Congress got us into this,
and we're gonna call them and they're going to have
to go in and get those children for us out
because you know they'll be killed. That was the beginning
of the Vietnam baby Lift. Maybe you'll remember that, but wow.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I don't remember that, but wow.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And we brought thousands of children to this. She even
got some of the world airlines stepped in and helped us,
and we got children that went every where. They went
all over the United States. Actually, we had things set
up through the basis where they would accept the children.
What we did is we were not an adopted agency
(23:15):
at the time. We are now in a couple of states,
but we were not then. And we would call and say,
do you have parents that have already been okayed, because
we have the children tomorrow that will be landing a
plane in Seattle or wherever it was, and if they
will take them, we have the child. Do you know
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that every single child was adopted when they hit our soil?
If that a bill for America, I don't know what
does because every single child was adopted, and so now
can for sure. We thought our mission had been completed.
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We had built the orphanages own and everything, and we
were asked all over the place to make speeches about
the Vietnam Baby There. We were making a speech in
California at the old Ambassador Hotel there at an event,
and the Reagans were there, Nancy and Running, and they
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were sitting on the dais with us. As we came
back from our speech. Nancy put her arm out and
stopped us and said, you two are just the ones
to do it. And we said do what? And she
said child abuse in this country. She said, you know
(24:43):
that the laws are protecting the perpetrator, not the child,
and said, we don't know two people that can go
in in unpopular issues. You did it with an unpopular war,
you did it with unpopular or problems of mixed blood children,
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and now we need you to do this. I said,
we've never heard of abuse children in America, Missus Reagan,
and she said, I promise you it's happening, and you're
the tube to do it. And I said, well, we'd
have to do a feasibility study. And we I thought
(25:24):
she'd lost it. I thought, because you never read anything,
never abuse children. Never. And so when she looked at
Ronnie and she said, I think we can get that money,
don't you. And winked, and Ronnie said yep. And do
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you know the next morning, a personal check was delivered
at my door, at my door to start the feasibility study.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well, there wasn't anything to do but to do it.
Right now, we're the largest nonprofit in America dealing with
abused children and a very large continuum of services across
the United States. That was because of the Reagans, who
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planted the very first monies for us to study the problem,
to find out indeed she was correct and how bad
it was. So we started by changing laws and from
their building facilities and starting other programs that have progressed
(26:40):
over the years. Well that's where we ended up.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Okay, So, and everybody watching, there's a lot of people
watching right now. Everybody watching can go to Childhelp dot org.
I have to I have to share. Can I share
this story? The So my wife and I I don't know,
(27:06):
maybe two years ago, we were walking into a steakhouse
one night and there's child Help out there. They're asking
for donations for backpacks and all of this stuff, and
so I signed up. I gave them I think one
hundred and sixty dollars that night, and then I did
the monthly thirty dollars a month to help, and then
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I fast forward a year or so later and my
card number had changed. I just didn't renew. So we
are walking into my wife night, what was it three
months ago? We're walking into here, my wife just put
the leak in the comments. We're walking into our favorite
(27:51):
barbecue place here in Texas, and there's child help again.
These two younger people are out there helping, you know,
get donations. And so I said, oh my gosh, I
did the I did it before. I support it for
quite a long time. And and they're like, oh, thank you.
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And so we went in and ate, and I'm like, okay,
I don't know that I want to get back on
the monthly thing, but I might. We'll see on the
way out. On the way out, there's one girl left there.
The guy had gone home. I said, where's your partner?
She goes, he hit his goal for the night, so
he got to go home. And I said, oh, what
do you have left to get your goal so you
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can go home? And she said two hundred dollars. And
I looked at my wife and I said, give her
the two hundred dollars. So she can go home, pardon me,
and and so she did and took pictures and it
was just it was, you know, nice, and that was all.
I like, that was it. We walked away and never
thought another thing about it. I love the organization and
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what you guys do. Three days later, my phone rings
and it's Mark Victor Ham calling me and he says, ken,
my boy, I want you to have my friend Sarah
o'mero on your show. And I said, okay, who's Sarah
and he goes, well, she's the co founder of childhelp
dot Org. I'm like, shut it up.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Are you serious right now? This can't be real, This
is not happening. And so so I told him, and
then I'm telling my wife later. I said, you're not
gonna believe the call I got today. I tell her.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
She literally bursts into tears. She's like, you're gonna be
kidding me. And so it's just amazing the way God
works in this world and especially in this organization. My goodness,
and you are how do you know? I mean it
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sounds to me like you just don't say no.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Well, if God says no, it's over, I give all
the credit. And so does Ivonne to because we dedicated
this organization from the beginning to him. We were not
educated at all in child psychology or child anything, right,
so we loved children. We both love children, but who doesn't.
(30:17):
But it was nothing that we were prepared for. But
God prepared us for it. He opened the doors. We
didn't know anybody in that field. And so when you
think of what He has done, I mean God can
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do anything, of course, and he did that, and this
is his organization. And we have been able to help
close to thirteen million children since it's in section. And
that's all because of him can And that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Amen. I love that. And I don't want to shift
gears too quick because we're going to keep child help
dot Org at the forefront of all of this. But
there's and and by the way, I have your book
on the thing here. You've got to go get a
copy of this book, go to Amazon or wherever. And
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it's it's called Healed Your Miracle Awaits by Sarah o'meira
with the mark Victor Hanson Library. Actually I'm such an
amazing book, I mean, just an amazing book. I have
this one. I have the Kindle version. Go get a
copy of it. Maybe my wife will will put a
(31:37):
link to it in the comments if she can find
it on Amazon real quick or is it on childhelp
dot org.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Is the book written, No, it isn't connected you really
to child out. There is, uh the back of it,
there is a little bit about child Help some of
the things that have been accomplished through Kathy.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Lee Gifford is is on the Wow, it's crazy like
you were friends with Danny Thomas too. Yes, Oh my gosh, unbelievable.
So so where is there a website though that that
was on? I thought I saw a website link somewhere,
but uh, there's.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
A website the Little Chapel a z dot org that tells, uh,
this is another part of my whole life, which is
the Little Chapel and I have services once a month,
a heating service, so that's another whole avenue.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, I want to and I do want to go
down that that path actually if we if we can,
because the I'm trying to get I want to scroll
and it's c H A P E l A z
dot org, the Little Chapel az dot org. I'm gonna
scroll this across the bottom so people can go get
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a go check it out. And get a copy. Do
I have that spelled correctly? I think I do. I'm
doing this on the floor here, Okay, you so so
go check it out and grab a copy of this book.
It's it's an amazing book. But I do want to
get into I had the amazing experience and benefit of
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having your daughter tell me the story, and you were
there in the background while Taren was telling me the
story on the phone about the healing that occurred in
your life. And I would absolutely love to have you
tell that story, if you would, If you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Mind, Oh, I don't mind at all, because I wouldn't
be here if it were not for that story. When
years old, uh, And it was when we were just
opening our very first village actually for child help in California,
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and I was told after the operation that they had
I had so much cancer in my body in every
gland on my left hand side that they could not
get it at all, and that they told my friends
Yvonne and then her husband Don Petterson, that if I
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lived three months, that would be a long time with
the condition I was in. Wow, that was very hard
for me to understand because I had two children at
the time. That I was raising by myself, and we
were just starting to build fantastic programs for children that
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have been viewed. And now I'm told I won't live.
As I was in the hospital hearing that on the
television set came a woman, a voice that says, I
believe in miracles because I believe in God. And that
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was Catherine Coolman, known as to this day the most famous.
They call her a healer. She doesn't heal, God does,
but they call her the most famous healer of any
kind of any period, of any date. And indeed she was.
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I had never been to her anything like that. Actually,
I thought it was like a holy roller type thing
where people put right.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
And so.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
When she said, if you need a miracle, you be
at the Shrine auditorium this Sunday, God can heal you,
well I knew that I had to be there. I
didn't care if it was the tent, I didn't care
what it was. I was going to be there. Well.
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I wasn't supposed to get out of the hospital for
four more days, and this was on a Friday, and
I had to talk to the doctor into letting me
out Saturday so that I could be their Sunday so
I told him that it was urgent I get home.
I had plenty of help, I said, to help me.
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That was not really so. And he said, you will
bleed to death, because that's when they didn't have stitches.
They had clamps that they could on you when you
opened up. And he said, you will bleed to death
if you get up to go to the backroom. I
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did cross my fingers underneath the blanket. I really did that,
but I lied. I said, okay, I promise. Well, I
knew I was going to be there at that throneuditorium
on Sunday, and I was going to get there. But
I knew I was going to be there, So I
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called the shrunium and I said, I am very very ill,
and I cannot stand in the line that I saw
on television where people were standing to get in this
run auditorium, but I need to be there. Is there
room for those that are in my condition? And the
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man said, well, actually there is. You have to go
through a certain door. You have to be there at
a certain time, and so he put my name on
the list. I was there right at the time he
told me. I was there at the door with my
friend Janet that took me, and as I knocked on
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the door to get in, she was parking the car.
I'm going to come back and meet me. They said,
We're sorry, it's filled and we can't have one more
person because of the fire department, so you're going to
have to leave. And my hope you build up your hope.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yea, it was.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I couldn't believe it that I couldn't get in, so
I walked out to the curb to meet my friend
that would join me, and as she stepped up on
the curb to join me, somebody else recognized me through
childhealth and said, Sarah, what in the world are you
doing here? And I said, well, I don't feel well
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and I'd hope to be there, but it's filled. And
she said, you know what, I came out to my
car to get a sweater. It's kind of cool in there,
but I'm going to give you my seat and I'm
going to ask my husband to take get up to
give your friend his. Well, usually that would have been
nice enough to have say oh no, but I didn't.
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I said, oh, that would be wondering what she was sitting.
You would not believe she was sitting in the very
top balcony on the last row. Oh my, you had
to walk all these steps and they didn't have an
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elevator up to the balcony, so you had to walk
those steps plus up to the last balcony.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
As I looked down, I realized I was stepping in
my own blood and I was bleeding pretty badly. As
I sat down the two seats. One was on the
end of the aisle, the next one to it. And
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as I sat down, I was so exhausted and I
had lost a lot of blood. And as I sat down,
my body lifted up to the top of the ceiling.
I was in like a pink cloud.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
And I was floating in the pink cloud. However, when
Catherine spoke, I did not hear the words she said,
but I knew she was talking, and I knew that
the choir was seen, So it's not anything that impressed
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me by what was said. I was still floating up there,
and then I realized, either I'm dying or I'm hallucinating.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
About that time, what I did he is there's a
marvelous healing going on up in the balcony. It's a
girl that riddled with cancer throughout her body. At that point,
I came out of the cloud, came plowing in my seat.
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You know, I wasn't I was there the whole time. Yeah,
And as I got down into my seat, it's like
the cloud dissipated and I was in a state of shop.
And then something that had never happened to me before
(41:43):
was the Holy Spirit was going through my body so
strongly that it not only shook me, but the entire
row where I was sitting was knocked down sideways.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I did not know any of that because I was
up the year was some place sort.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
You already had thought that this was some holy roller convention.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I didn't know what it was, but at that point
I really didn't know what it was. And what I
was thinking was, what is happening to me, Dear God,
what is happening to me? At that point, Catherine came
back and she said, this healing going on in the balcony.
(42:30):
This girl has been saved for a very special purpose.
And she's sitting on the last in the last balcony
of the first row in a red dress. I had
a red light blue dress on predominantly red, but I mean,
there was no mistake, and so the ushers came kneeling
(42:54):
down by me, and they said, aren't you the one
being healed? And I said, I think so, uh you know,
and so they said, well, go down and give your testimony.
I said, because I've never been to anything like that, right, Oh,
(43:15):
I don't know about that. And when I said that,
a voice said to me, like, I'm talking to you, Ken,
you mean I would do that for you and you
would deny me. Why it scared me? I got. I
jumped up so fast, and as I did, it was
(43:38):
like hot oil. Of course it wasn't, but it felt
like hot oil coming all over me. But as I did,
it was like one of those dolls that you're pushing
or that would like that. I think, come up. I
was like that. And when I was and stepped out
to the aisle, everybody was turning around looking, but I
(44:01):
didn't care because all the pain had left me. Bleeding stopped.
I flew down those steps. Now I was in the
back of the of the aisle because she's up here.
I'm here, And I said, now, God, I'm here. You
(44:21):
see I'm here. But I'll never make it up there
because other people were healed and they were anxious to
get up for her, and so they were blocking Nile
and I said, I there. She came to the side
of the podium on stage and she pointed, and she said,
the girl in the red dress in the very very back,
(44:42):
the Holy Spirit is all over you. You come forward
and tell us what God did for you today. Well,
it was like the parting of the Red Sea. I mean,
there was nothing to do but bo and so I
walked up and I did. I told everything. I told
her about the cloud. I told everything. So then she
(45:05):
said to the usher unbknownst to me at the time,
I want her phone number. See if you can get
her phone there they did. When I went home, my
skin had healed up over the clamps. Healed up over
the clamps were they didn't as all, but my skin
(45:29):
had healed up. I was supposed to be at the
doctor's office on Monday morning with the hibits they were
taking me. The doctor actually happen to be a friend
of Don Petterson's. He had me come in before his
other patients because he was very concerned about laying me
out of the hospital. He came tearing out of the
(45:52):
examining room and said, you have the coopiest friend I've
ever seen. Her skin has healed up over the o
the clamps.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
He retook the tests and found no cancer. Wow. So
that changed my entire life.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I loved God before I was a Sunday school teacher.
I always you would say I was probably I was
kind of religious. But this changed my life.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
And then as Catherine called me and said, I want
you to be on my television program with me, well here,
I didn't want to go up to the Shrona auditoriument
and then she wants me to be on National TV.
I did. We became friends. She ended up asking me
to work with her at the trying auditorium in Los Angeles,
(47:02):
which I did. I organized all the ushers and everything
for her. I ended up she put me in the
really bad area of where people were dying and on
stretchers and wheelchairs. And it was there that I was
able to see a light around the person just before
(47:26):
she called out a healing of that person. And I
told her, Catherine, would you think I was crazy? But
I know before you call it out, who is he
is going to be healed? And she threw up her
hands and she said, it's just the beginning, just the beginning. Well,
we went to Israel together and we were having lunch,
(47:50):
and when we were having lunch, she said, Sarah, it
hasn't dawned on your consciousness yet, but you have the
same gift that God gave me for healing.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I was so dumb that I said, yes, isn't that wonderful?
Thinking it was the healing for the children, because that's
what it is, the heal of your sold so in
a different light, but it was healing me. When we
got back from Israel, she died within weeks. Oh my gosh,
(48:27):
pries to everybody. We were all heartbroken after that. Emon
and I tried to find others who had healing abilities,
and we did go to healing services, but never felt
quite the same depth of the Holy Spirit as we
did with Catherine until Nanny Thomas called me. You're speaking
(48:51):
of Nanny and he said, Sarah, I have someone sitting
in my living room visiting Rosemary and me, and he's
staying in our house and he's looked everywhere for you,
and it's father Ralph Diorio. Oh my gosh, why would
he look for me? And she said because he has
(49:14):
a tremendous gift of healing like Catherine. Everybody said what
a shame it was that he didn't meet her, and
everyone sold him, if you really want to find out
about her, get in touch with a girl named Sarah Omara. Well,
I'm not listening to the phone book. He couldn't find me.
He didn't know about child. He was lost until Danny
(49:37):
said she's a good friend. So I went to dinner
with them. We father Diorion and I talked like mag
guys so and he said, I want you to take
me to the airport tomorrow morn. Come by and we'll
have prayer together tomorrow morning, and I'll give you Christ.
And I thought, oh my gosh, he thinks I'm Catholic
(49:59):
because Protestant. So I said, well, Father, thank you, and
I would like to take you to the airport and
continue our conversation. But I don't happen to be Catholic.
And he said, well, what difference does that make? I said, well,
none to me, but I thought it would be to
you that you be here. So I was there and
(50:23):
that was the start of a whole new relationship. He
said at the time to me. When he got when
he left the car to get on the plane, I
don't know how, but we'll be working together someday. And
I thought, boy, I don't know how either, because you
live in Massachusetts. I live in California. You're Catholic and Protestant.
(50:46):
So I went thinking nothing about it. And he called
that day in the evening and he said, my bishop
met me at the airport, telling me he was sending
me back to California to do a series of services.
And he said, I told him, I would like you
(51:08):
to do what you did for Catherine and get the
ushers together and organize it and blah blah blah. And
he said that that would probably be hard to do
because you weren't Catholic and you would be behind the
Eucharist and whatever, but he would pray about it. The
(51:29):
next day he called and he said, do you know
that the Bishop called me that morning and said you'd
be okay. And so I began working with him to Calvary.
Then he kept asking me to join him at a
lot of different things that he did, his healing services,
(51:51):
workshops and so forth, and I did all. We went
to New York, we were in Massachusetts, we were everywhere
and we did healing services together. And then he played
a trick on me. At a service, it was a workshop.
He had five hundred people, and he said, all those
(52:14):
that have come here and have not received a healing
that came for healing, I want you to stand over
here and I'll pray for you individually, and Sarah O'Mara
will stand on the other side of the boating hum
and she'll pray for you. Well, I rose up to
him and said, oh, don't do that to me. Don't
do that to me. That's like dirt and ice cream.
(52:34):
I said, they don't know me, they think, and I'm
arguing with him, and he tells the ushers take her
over there. Well, I stood there and I prayed ken.
I said, God, don't let anyone be in my line.
I can't do anything for him. Don't let anybody. And
then I got my wish. Everybody was in his line
(52:56):
and nobody was in mine. And then I looked up
and I said, well, maybe one and so, because I
was so embarrassed, I stood there for a long time.
And so at the very end was a man about
six ' five and he he was leaning over, talking
(53:17):
obviously to his family, wife and there were two kids,
and here he came, and I said, oh, no, here
he comes. He thinks I can do something. He stood
in front of me and he said, well, you pray
for me. And I said, what's wrong with you, sir?
And he said, I have an inoperable tumor and he
had it was as big as a lemon. I mean,
(53:39):
you couldn't missish. And so I put my hand on
his chests and I couldn't think of a prayer. I
was so nervous. So I said, Dear God, healed this man.
Well it was enough because his children started screaming. Look
at Baba and I looked up because my eyes flew
(54:02):
open and I got to see it go down. That
was the first healing that God ever allowed to work
through me. And then a whole group came from the back,
thinking they couldn't get up to fathered Aie, and they
came over to my line and I prayed for a
(54:23):
little under two hours and about eighty percent of them
were healed. That began my healing gift. And so that
was fifty one years ago. And since then I won't
go into howe, but I have had two chapels, one
(54:44):
in California, and when I moved to Arizona, what you
now have it in Arizona. And I wrote this book,
Healed Your Miracle Awaits. It has been voted number one
on Amazon. And let me tell you about this book.
(55:06):
I had no idea that it would affect people this way.
I really didn't. But people are being healed in reading it.
They don't even if they're not, they have come yes
to the little chapel. I've had people come from Europe
and all of the United States still do. There's nothing
(55:29):
like being there, of course, but many people have written
to tell me that they are healed, because you see,
I don't do the healing. I'm not the healer. God
is and God is everywhere.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Yes, I'm sorry. I have a question though, So the
you said in that day about eighty percent were healed
the twenty percent that weren't. I know, everybody asks I'm
going to ask why why were they? And you know,
(56:13):
I think about Peter walking on the water and then
you know, losing faith in sight or what and starting
to sink, and you know, is it?
Speaker 4 (56:22):
That is it?
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Because they don't believe that it's possible.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Well, I tell you can't if I knew the answer,
i'd be gone. Only God he makes the decision. I
will tell you that sometimes the people that are closest
to me, relatives are not wow, but people I'll never see.
I have not a clue of their name, where they
(56:51):
came from, are healed of cancer, of all kinds of things.
I don't have the answer, and nobody else does. Really,
because it's God's call, it's not mine. I pray the
same for everyone, and I wonder sometimes why. I'll tell
(57:13):
you a story that happened at my very last service.
We had so many healings of backs and knees, people
that now do not have to have knee surgery that
canceled it. They're fine. And my son stood up for
a healing of his hip. It had been bothering him
(57:36):
for many months. He was the only one in the
entire service not healed that stood up. In fact, when
he stood up and I said, would you walk toward me,
do you have any pain? He said, yes, it's still there.
I said, well, you're a bad advertisement for me, you're
(57:57):
my son. But but the thing is, I don't know
the ones that will be here. I pray for them
sometimes a lot. I pray for a specific person, especially
if I've known them for a long time and know
(58:17):
their story. But it's not my call, can it's God.
But I will tell you this. According to scripture, right now,
we are in a period where more healings are going
to take place than any other. So watch out. If
(58:39):
you're asking God for your miracle, don't think he won't
give it to you, because he's opening up a big door.
If you read the Holy Scripture, you'll find that to
be true about doing for today's world. I think what
(59:01):
is a magnet for healing is trust and faith. If
we trust and have faith in Him, he says, He
tells us nothing is impossible with God. He tells us
he has a plan for each and every single one
of us, and everyone is so precious to him, so
(59:24):
unique that it's like you are the only child on earth.
That's how much he loves you. We don't understand our
love like that. If He loves us all that much,
he wants us to be free from suffering, free from illness.
(59:44):
I've had illness and problems and suffering. I'm not I'm
not always healing when I ask to be healed. But
you know what, we learn a lot between the time
that we're asking God to heal us and the time
(01:00:06):
he actually does. They're more progressive healings than instantaneous ones.
And I think it's because of what we learn in
the in between times, because there's no other place to
go but on your knees, So you become closer and
closer to God, and you rely on him because you
(01:00:27):
realize that's the only other place you have to go.
You've tried every doctor, you've tried everything. But God's power
is in work work within us. Right now as I'm talking,
right now, there are like four people that are getting
healed of their hip. When I talk about my son's hip,
(01:00:52):
I was told four people are being healed right now
as I so. God loves us all beyond our wildest imaginations,
and he is there for us, always, always, And if
(01:01:14):
we can just let go and give him control of
our life, it would be so much better than our
own plans. His plans so far exceed ours. It's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
So you say it in your book, you said, and
I've heard it many times, but if you want to
make God laugh, tell him your plans. That's right, right,
Like I think so many of us including me. You know,
I'm I'm a recovered alcoholic with twenty two and a
half years sober by the grace of God. And you know,
(01:01:49):
I always give credit to God. People are like, how
did you do that? And I'm like, I did, trust me,
I didn't. That is not my natural state, but I
and then I think about people that don't survive, that
don't make it, that die of alcoholism or drug addictions,
and I just go, I don't know why I surrendered.
(01:02:09):
I don't know. I really don't. And it sounds sounds
like it's the same.
Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
It is, it really is. And I don't have all
the answers at all. Yeah, I don't have any of
those answers of why some are healed and some are not,
because I would if I could, I'd go in the
hospital and just drain everybody out of those beds. Yeah,
but it is God's call, and God there is a
(01:02:38):
book by the way that yvon wrote called Healing Nods Call,
and it's of documented testimonies that have been healed in
the Little Chapel as a result of being there. But
I just I just feel that those listening today, many
(01:02:59):
of you are really going through a hard time and
many of you are sick and miracles sound so far away,
and that God will never heal you. But that's not true.
That's not what he tells us, and he's proven it.
(01:03:20):
I want you who are listening and call and are
in that category to call on Jesus now and ask
for that healing and believe that He's giving it to you,
and don't let anything take it away. Stand firm. You
(01:03:42):
can find many, many verses in the Bible that will
substantiate what I'm saying, and you can say them over
and over and over again, and that healing is there
for you. Please know that it's there for you, and
it's there for you now just as we're speaking these words.
(01:04:07):
That's what I want to leave you with.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Sarah, God bless you. You're You're amazing and I'm so
honored to have had you on the show today. Everybody,
thank you, Thank you so much. I want everybody watching
or listening to this at a later date, please go
to childhelp dot org and give. Just donate, even if
(01:04:36):
it's five dollars. If a million people gave five dollars,
that would help a lot, right, And and you know,
go to the Little chapelas dot org and help in
every way that you possibly can. And if you don't
get this book, you are missing out. I promise you
(01:04:59):
go get this book today, Healed Your Miracle Awaits. It's
an amazing, amazing book. So God bless you. Thank you
so much, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
You can and God bless you and all those that
are listening. Are streamed every time.
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Oh that's right, yes so, and that can be found
at the Little Chapelaz dot org. You can see the services.
I know some I know some people that attend your services.
So I just think that everybody needs to get into
your your atmosphere. So go to the Little chapel Az
(01:05:45):
dot org and check it out, and please donate to
childhelp dot org. And Sarah, stay with me. I'm going
to end the live stream, but we'll we'll chat here
in just a second. Thank you to everyone who's watching,
and if you shared, thank you for sharing this out.
And if you haven't shared, there's time for you to
(01:06:06):
redeem yourself and go ahead and share this out. So
thank you all very much and we'll see you soon.
Thank you so much, Sarah,
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