June 30, 2025 • 62 mins
CEO of Bagla Law Firm, APC “Grab the world by the pearls! It’s yours for the taking!” Kelly Bagla has been nominated as the top CEO of 2024. Her integrity is exemplary, setting a standard for ethical business practices. With over 20 years of experience, she has become a cornerstone of the San Diego County business community, providing not just legal services but also creating jobs and fostering economic security. Kelly’s commitment to teaching high net worth individuals and business owners how to protect their businesses proactively demonstrates her dedication to empowering others. Clients affectionately refer to her as “Queen of Business Law®” a testament to her unparalleled guidance and expertise. Kelly Bagla embodies the qualities of a top CEO—innovation, leadership, and a deep commitment to making a positive impact on both the business world and the community at large. Kelly Bagla’s involvement in San Diego’s prestigious organizations reflects her deep commitment to serving the community through her law firm. She actively supports veterans, offering them a 20% discount on her legal services as a gesture of gratitude for their service. Her pro bono work with the Veterans Chamber of Commerce demonstrates her dedication to supporting those who have defended the country. Kelly’s love for dogs is evident through her support for Last Chance At Life, a rescue and adoption organization. She regularly donates to help dogs find loving homes, especially those in need of medical care. Her passion for animal welfare aligns with her belief in giving back to the community and making a difference in the lives of others. Through her involvement in these organizations, Kelly Bagla has shown that her commitment to service extends beyond her legal practice, making her a respected figure in San Diego’s communityB Kelly is the author of six books, including the New York Times Bestseller, “_Go Legal Yourself!_®” Each of her books and multiple enterprises has been designed to empower business owners in pursuit of the American Dream. Beyond her role at Bagla Law Firm, Kelly is a multifaceted entrepreneur. She is the founder and CEO of three additional businesses that advance her mission to inform, equip and inspire entrepreneurs worldwide. Kelly knows the challenges, risks, and responsibilities of being a business owner. She has the dual perspective of running businesses from both the entrepreneurial and legal angles. She knows first-hand how to mitigate risks, avoid lawsuits and safeguard assets. As Kelly affirms, “I believe it takes an entrepreneur to understand the needs of an entrepreneur!” Kelly is madly in love with her Marine husband, Brent, and their 3 beautiful dogs! https://baglalaw.com/ https://www.instagram.com/baglalaw/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/bagla-law-firm/
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, good morning, and welcome to Breakthrough Walls. I'm Ken
Walls and I'm your host, and today I have the
law on the show. I'm kidding. I have the amazing
Kelly Bagla. She is an attorney and I am so
excited to have her on the show. So do me
a favor if you would share this out with everybody
(00:25):
that you know, and let's get a bunch of people
on here to hear Kelly's story. And she has a
lovely British accent I'm sorry, English accent, and you're going
to love her. So stay with us. We'll be right back.
Share this out, We'll see you soon, and we are back.
(01:15):
Let me bring Kelly on to the show. Kelly, welcome
to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Thank you so much, Ken for having me on. It's
a delight.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I am grateful to have you here. I know absolutely
nothing about you except for your New York Times best
selling author, which I'm a publisher, so for those of
you that don't know, that means she sold at least
twenty five thousand books in one week. That's incredible and
(01:46):
I'm happy to.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Have you here. So let me start with this.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So I started this to help people have a breakthrough
in life, and I did it selfishly. I was stuck
at the time in my own life, and I'm like,
you know, I think if I listen to enough other
people talk about how they got unstuck, it'll help me.
And it did so, and I'm excited for you to
be able to help other people today. So tell everybody
(02:13):
where it all began for you. Where were you born
and raised if they can't tell already?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Right exactly? And thank you, by the way for correcting
the accent. It's not British. It is English. Yes, I
was born and raised in England, and I have spent
most of my life actually in the States, believe it
or not. I've been here probably about twenty five twenty
seven years now. But I don't think I'll ever lose
(02:39):
the accent. And I've been told never to lose the accent.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You not lose that accent, that's right, don't.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Do you got it? You got it?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I love that accent.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And it's English. Why is it not British?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
What's the difference that there isn't a country that is
called Britain, right, Britain itself is made up of the
other countries. We've got Scotland, we've got Wales, and then
when you bring in the UK United Kingdom, that brings
in all of the other countries, including Ireland, and so
(03:17):
England is a separate country by itself all the time, Ken,
and people have been just mingling everything together and they
just call it British.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I did not know that. Wow, some educational value already
for me. So well, welcome to you and your beautiful
English accent. So Kelly, so you were born and raised
though in England. Correct, when did you move to the US?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So I've had an interesting journey, Ken, born and raised
in England. Right after high school we start h well,
we start the nursery which you called kindergarten here at
the age of three, so we are two years ahead
of the American educational system. So when I came when
I finished my high school in England, i came out
(04:12):
to the Bay Area. That's where my sister and brother
were living at the time. I thought, oh, I'm on,
I'm on my summer holidays. Let me go out and
say hello to him. I've never been out here before.
I absolutely loved the place, and after further discussions, decided
to apply for student visas and what have you. And
I completed my schooling both in England and also here
(04:34):
in the US. I've got a master's degree in law
which allowed me to sit for the bar. And it's
been interesting, to say the least. I was what sixteen
fifteen sixteen when I first arrived here. I'm the baby
of seven, ken, so I've obviously enjoyed each other.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
No television in the house, right.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So I'm the only one that has gone into law.
All of my other siblings they are all in the
medical profession in some form and respect. My dad he's
an entrepreneur, and I followed in my dad's footsteps. But
I am the only attorney. And again being the baby
of seven, mom wanted me home for a while because
(05:21):
I was out in the States. So I took advantage
of that time and I went to law school in England.
So my schooling is both from the UK and the
US as well.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
So you you did not go to law school here
at all.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I did a master's here, Okay, yes, yes, So.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You bounced around a little bit. So when you and
I know a lot of attorneys. I don't know if
you saw the intro video, but prior to his passing away.
I was friends with Judge ken Starr, who is famous
for impeaching Bill Clinton. He was, he was, He was
(06:00):
such an incredible guy. I actually did a private book
signing for him in Columbus, Ohio when I lived in
Ohio and met him and his wife and they were wonderful,
wonderful people. But I so I know a lot of attorneys, right,
so talk a little bit about why you decided to
pursue If everybody else in your family is doing medical
(06:24):
stuff and you're like, nope, I'm going to be an attorney,
why what was the push?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I must have been about five years old and I
was watching a show on TV on the Telly, Ken
on the Telly on the Telly, and I know it
might seem like England's the third World country now, but
it wasn't at the time. Back then.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm talking about your parents having seven children.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Like they stopped at me and they said, listen, it's
time to get a Telly now. So yes, I grew
up watching.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I love that. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
There was a particular show on that used to play
every week and it was called The Queen the King's Counsel.
I'm sorry, the Queen's counsel at the time. Now we
have the King, but it was called the Queen's Counsel,
and every single time the barrister would go in and
win the case and win the day. And I always
found that so fascinating, and so I absolutely truly stuck
(07:24):
to my guns, and I said to my dad, Dad,
I want to be look, I want to be that.
I had no idea what that was, and so over
time came my conviction in what I wanted to be
has never ever changed. It's always been a lawyer, a lawyer,
a lawyer. And here I am several years later.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You know, Kelly, I so one of my friends is
an attorney. She's a client of mine, lives here in Dallas,
and we took our daughter over to their house for
this Christmas dinner thing a couple of years ago. And
their house is humor I mean huge, huge, huge elevator
inside it's really beautiful. And so we left and she goes.
(08:08):
She's sitting in the back seat, she was twelve, and
she goes, Dad, I know what I want to do
with my life. And I said what She goes, I
want to be a rich Attorney's very specific.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I love it not just.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Attorney, not just an attorney, because there's plenty of poor attorneys.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh, there's plenty rich attorneys.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So I love that. So it was it started, and
my daughter has not let go. She's fourteen and a
half now and she's not let go. She still wants
to go to law school and be a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Beautiful. She'll stick to her convictions, Kenn, and she's going
to become that rich lawyer.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I know. Right.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So when you so you you were in England when
you graduated from law school? Where did things go for
you from there?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Is there a bar exam there too?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I guess I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So you can take there's there's two routes that you
can take in England. You can either become a barrister,
which is a trial lawyer here in the US, or
you can become a solicitor, which is a transactional lawyer
here in the US. I chose to go transactional corporate law.
And again, why because that's where the money is. Ken,
your daughter's super smart.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, that's where the money is, right.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So so you did that? Did you practice law?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Then? In in England?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I sat for my solicitor's course, and because before one
can practice there, you have to do a call it
a pupilage, call it a internship with a law firm
over there in the UK. But for three years, Ken,
three years, so and doing that those three years, I
(10:00):
can move you around to any department. So I want
to be a corporate lawyer.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Guess what.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Guess who's getting that phone call two am in the
morning that you have to go bail someone out. It's
going to be the me. So and three years, I
chose not to stay there. I chose to come back
to the US, and I chose to pursue my masters here,
which allowed me to sit for the bar and here
in California, of all places. And I've been practicing Ken,
(10:28):
it's my twentieth year. Twenty twenty years I've been practicing law.
I've been providing excellent service to my clients, and I
love each and every one of them.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Ken, that is so amazing. Twenty years in California.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
California, Ball States.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yes, h What in the world I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay, I think you're in the San Diego area, right,
So I understand that it's beautiful there. It's beautiful, yes, yes, so,
But what made you go I'm gonna move to California
from England and practice law right right.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And my sister and brother were here in California. If
they were in New York, I'd probably go to New York.
They were in California, and this is where we've sort
of settled as well.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, I've been to I've been to Stegg I've been
to Carl's Bad, which is, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's exactly where my office is. Ken so yes, in
Carl's Bad.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I was invited to be a speaker doctor Fad me
and sen. He invited me to come to his event
and at the Avira Resort. Are you familiar with?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
That is the most gorgeous place I was. I came home,
I told my wife, I'm like number one. I had
the very best steak I've ever had in my life
at that resort.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Number two.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
You've got to see it. So we're coming back there
someday to visit.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I would love to host you. You make sure you
connect with me.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's so nice, thank you? So so okay, So you
started did you? Did you in California? Did you put
out your own shingle? Did you start your own practice
or did you work for somebody for a while.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So when I first started applying, I passed the bar,
I started applying for my very first attorney position, and
it was with Baker McKenzie in San Diego. It was
the largest international law firm in the world Ken, in
the world, not just the US.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Currently right now it's probably about three or fourth in
the world, but at the time when I started, it
was the number one international law firm. I learned from
some brilliant minds, not just domestically here Ken, but internationally
from across the globe, because we were based in sixty
nine countries. Sixty nine countries, and so right out of
(12:57):
the gate, I must have blown the socks of the partners.
They loved me instantly. They offered me the job right there,
and then there was no well, let you know, miss Bagler, No, no,
they offered me the job, and so that really opened
up massive doors for me. Everybody knows who Baker McKenzie
is and what they do, and the reputation is pretty impeccable.
(13:20):
And I did start off with the largest firm. I
learned very quickly the politics of large firms as well,
and you learn a lot I mean I was a
young lawyer, bright eyed and bushy tailed.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Ken.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I was out there. I was going to crush it,
you know, I was going to make a name for myself.
And here I am. And as soon as I start working,
they give me a laptop and a BlackBerry. Do you
remember there was blackberries?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yes, we have one around here somewhere. I just saw
it recently.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Well, you can see it in the museum, right, what
happened to BlackBerry? But I.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Muddy said that the other day to me, They're like,
I missed my BlackBerry keyboard. I think it was an
attorney actually client of mine that said that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Right, So they give you an electronic leash, right, so literally,
wherever you are they can get a hold of you.
I was working sixteen seventeen, eighteen hours a day. Ken.
I loved it. I loved it because I was young.
I wanted to absorb everything that I could, and I
worked in their corporate and Securities department. That was my
official title, Corporate and Securities attorney. From there, after learning
(14:29):
that or behind the scenes, the politics and what have you,
at one point we actually got a partner from Hell
Ken from Hell and when she joined within the first month,
there were ten of us that left, ten attorneys that left.
So during that time I was one of them because
(14:51):
they brought her into the corporate department. And from there
I went to a smaller firm. It was an IP firm.
They needed to build out their corporate department. I in
and did that. Within six months, I was promoted to
senior corporate attorney. And then probably another year or two,
I said, listen, I started going out and doing business
development and bringing business back. And I said, at some
(15:14):
point I would like to talk about a partner route
at the firm. And the partner said, oh, yeah, that
would be great, but however, we have to pay the
debt off first before you can gain profits. And I said,
that's not a relationship. But when I enter into starting
off with debt and that's your debt. So at the time,
it was two thousand and nine. Ken two thousand and
(15:36):
nine was when I decided, if I can make money
for someone else, why can't I make money for myself?
Right with all the tools that I learned, I went
out and I started Bagler Law Firm APC. It was
the most brilliant day of my life. This journey has
(15:58):
been absolutely incredible. Ken, If I had to do it
all over again, I'll do it exactly the same way,
exactly because my experience at the big firm and then
the medium firm, and then me actually opening my firm,
it taught me and led me to where I am today.
I zealously represent my clients. I take a personal interest
(16:19):
in my clients and Ken, I am also known as
the Queen of Business Law.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That title was given to me by my clients. Why
you would ask, right, Well, the Queen is the most
powerful piece on the chessboard, however, because she can move
in any direction, her only job is to protect the king,
and for us, our client is the king. If I'm
the most if I'm the most important, the client obviously
(16:55):
needs to be protected. So I was given that name.
Plus I'm English. We had the Queen at the time ruling.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
There you go, right, So, so talk a little bit
about I'm just curious. I always wonder, like you know,
obviously you've reached incredible levels of success with your firm
and your book and everything that you've done, But did
(17:24):
you ever I have another client that's an attorney, and
she's really, really successful. She's retired kind of, and you know,
she talks about a day when her and her partner
couldn't make payroll and they were like she she literally
gets emotional talking about this one particular moment because of
(17:48):
a client not paying and all kinds of stuff. But
she gets very emotional, and it causes me to be
emotional listening to it, right, And I'm like, but because
I've been there, like can't make hey roll and it's like,
oh my god, I'm a loser. But like, you know,
but she's she talks about and then there was this
(18:08):
magical thing that happened. The money came in and you know,
but have you had and buildings go back to the beginning,
the first day you open, and the first year, two years,
five years, whatever. Did you have any of those moments
where you're like, we're done, We're not gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yes, and yes, Ken, nobody likes.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
To talk about those, but I think that it's important.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
You have to talk about it. You have to the
people that don't want to talk about the heartaches and
the success, the failures and what it really takes to
get through these hard times. You have to be out
there to talk to people. You have to so other
people can get through their it's much easier. I'm a
huge believer ken in we are all here put on
(19:00):
earth to serve each other. And if you have gone
through and experienced yourself where you feel that this could
help someone, please don't be quiet, actually speak out. These
were some of the hardest times of my life, and
they usually are for entrepreneurs. Is one is, well, where
do you get how do you get business?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
How do you get business? If I didn't join the
mid firm after the big firm, if I hadn't joined
the middle sized firm, I would never have known how
to sell. What am I supposed to say? Go out
to someone? Because we're attorneys, we're not allowed to solicit, right,
So I can't just walk up to someone and say, hey,
(19:41):
do you need an attorney? You're starting a business? Here's
my god, you can't do that. So how is it
that you get business? The very first thing I did,
Cane was I joined the Chamber of Commerce, Carl's Bad
Chamber of Commerce, and I got very involved because being
a member just showing up to events and not really
participate and you're not going to get anything out of it,
(20:02):
So you really have to get your your feet wet,
you jump in, you volunteer. You actually have people meet
with people and they get to they they they start
getting to know who you are, and you're there every month.
So the chamber, that would be one big, massive advantage
that I would say is for any new business that
(20:23):
wants to start join your local chamber, get known first
and get involved with the community. So that was the
first thing I did. The second thing I did was
as an attorney, I'm allowed to tell my clients where
I'm going. And there was a handful of clients that
actually walked with me and ken to this day, those
clients are still with me.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
That's so awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
With me still with me, that's awesome. And so for
the first first year, it was basically one how do
you know to set your pricing? So you're always going
to undercut yourself because you don't know you have no
idea what charge for something because we never build anyone
at the big firms. That was a billing department, So
you've got to figure out how much to charge. Then
(21:08):
you've got to obviously find someone. Then you have to
come back and do the work. So you're the one
that's doing everything right. You're wearing every each and every hat.
You have to be the collection agency as well. And
very quickly early on. And one beautiful thing that attorneys
are actually allowed to do legally is to be retained first,
(21:28):
so we don't have to lift a finger without being
paid first. So very quickly learned put people on a retainer.
The money's there, Okay, now I can provide services. But Ken,
I had bills to pay. When I joined the big firm,
I bought a house in San Diego. You know, they're
(21:50):
very expensive. I bought a house thinking I'm going to
stay with the firm. I'm going to be a rich lawyer.
I'm going to be a partner at this largest firm.
It didn't happen. So now I'm thinking, how am I
going to make my payments, my bills? How am I
going to keep a roof over my head? One of
the biggest securities for any woman to ever have in
(22:13):
her life is security is a roof over her head.
That's the biggest security any woman needs. And that security
was being shaken Ken, It was being shaken for me.
I'm a huge believer in in yourself. Right, you have
to believe in yourself. You cannot rely on other people
(22:37):
believing in you. You have to believe in yourself. I
fell back on that. I fell back on the principles
that my dad taught me. Every month, somehow, can somehow,
I swear to God. Every month I would find a
client that would give me five thousand dollars now I
could pay my mortgage and my bills. And I did
(22:59):
this every time I would get a client that passed
or it was too expensive, or sorry, we're not going
to do this right now. It hurt. It hurts so
bad because I was relying on that client. How am
I going to pay my bills? I even went as
far as maybe I could be a contracted attorney for
(23:22):
other law firms. Right, So, just trying to find my bed,
it's super difficult, extremely difficult if you don't have any guidance,
and ken you're looking at a self made woman. I've
never had any guidance, say father, right, and whatever I
have achieved, however far upcoming life, I'm the type of
person that loves to pay it back. I did it
(23:42):
the hard way. Let me show you how not to
do it the hard way. That's my philosophy in life,
and that's what I do for my clients as well.
But I remember those days, Ken, of course I remember
those days. At one point there were two mortgages on
my home, two of them, and one of them was
going to call, and I was just what do I do?
Who do I borrow money from? What can I do?
(24:04):
Can I go to the bank, Can I get a loan? Somehow?
Every month I would end up finding a client that
would give me five thousand dollars. And I say, somehow, Ken,
I believe in the Almighty, Yes, Almighty, And people can
(24:26):
have their own beliefs, and they can call it the universe,
and they can call it whatever they want. This is
how I was raised. I believe in the Almighty. In fact, Ken,
you're gonna love this. I call God my bestie.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah no, I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So I was very very in touch with my bestie
through this whole time. It got me through. And when
I say somehow, it wasn't somehow, it was Bestie helping
me through. Ken, That's how I got through. I'll never
forget those days because this is where we come from
as entrepreneurs. This is where Jeff Bess came from. He
started in his garage for God's sake. You know, entrepreneurs
(25:04):
the ones that are very committed and that those are
the ones that become successful.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's in Elon musk got you know, look at his story.
My god, he he took every last like. There's so
many examples. And you know, I was telling somebody recently
that you know, we've all heard the story about Colonel Sanders,
how he was sixty five years old, got his first
(25:32):
whatever it was pension check or whatever the and he
was like, how am I going to live on this?
And and that's when he went out and started his
thing at sixty five years old. And I just think about, like,
because I've been there, I've been in business for a
long time. I've been an entrepreneur my entire life. I'm
a horrible employee for another company. I mean I am,
(25:54):
I'm just I always say I'm not employable. So but
you know, so what are some of the big what
are some of the big mistakes?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
You see?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Because I started my company on a twenty dollars loan
and went out and knocked on doors doing website development
and helping people, and it was horrible. I had twenty
dollars to my name, and what are some of the
things that you see entrepreneurs and business owners, what are
(26:25):
the mistakes that they're making that's holding them back from
huge expanse because I think we all want that bigger
expansive growth.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right absolutely, as an entrepreneur, just like yourself, Ken, I'm
an entrepreneur three times now, I'm a CEO of three
companies that i've started, right, But my law firm, Bagla
Law Firm is my baby, It's my passion and it
will always be my first love always. So I have
seen mistake after mistake that entrepreneurs make. The biggest, biggest
(26:59):
mistake is when they get money, they just spend it
as if there's no tomorrow. They spend it on silly
stuff like, oh, let's spend you know, fifteen thousand dollars
on a website. It's not needed. Let's spend five thousand
on marketing material, it's not needed. Let's spend you know,
five hundred dollars on business cards, it's not needed. So
(27:19):
that's that's the number one issue or problem or mistake,
actually mistake that I see entrepreneurs make. The second problem
is their mindset they are usually that's a big, big problem.
Usually they're they're very set in their ways and they
very well. I know this and I know that, and
(27:39):
nobody knows everything right, that's why you come to the professional.
So I'm the professional and I'll tell you how it is.
The especially when when when they want to grow, there's
a lot of fear there web BEFA, can't make it,
We'll be for Can well you start again? You start again?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
These are these are failures that you learn from every
single time. Failures can be a beautiful thing, and more
failures at the beginning is perfect because could you imagine
a big, massive financial failure while you're in business for
five six years and all of a sudden that could
potentially bankrupt the company. So all of these mistakes that
(28:19):
entrepreneurs make, I highly encourage them to make them earlier on.
But they absolutely shouldn't move forward without getting consultation. And
any business needs two partners on their side always. One
is a fantastic CPA knows exactly what they're doing, and
also a brilliant attorney, a corporate attorney, because it's a corporation,
(28:40):
it's a business, and it's mismanaging of money, it's not
having the right mindset, and then it's bringing in fifty
sixty people where they're saying, I've given stock out to
my uncle Joe and my aunt Betty and you know,
my friends from high school, and and then they want
(29:01):
to actually go into funding from a outsource VC. It
doesn't happen like that. So stop thinking that you know everything,
slow down, get proper guidance, because nobody wants to build
a solid business on shaky ground. You wouldn't build a
house on a foundation that's not solid. Same thing applies
(29:22):
with business as well.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Amen, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
What is your like like when you wake up in
the morning? What is your And I love that coffee cup,
by the way, that is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I am I am married to a marine. Oh I
had I had. I love my marine. So I'm very biased.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I love that And of course in San Diego, how
could you meet a marine?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Is that exactly?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
So?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
But so so, when you wake up in the morning,
you know, I'm going to the office or I'm going
to work or what is it that drives you that
makes you continue to And I know you know, love
of clients, and I get that part, but is there
something deeper in you that you feel like really drives you.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yes. Absolutely. My morning routine, my husband is in construction,
so he wakes up at three o'clock am. I wake
up at three thirty am. We have breakfast together. We
have three dogs, so we feed the dogs at the
same time. They're on our schedule. Then we both go
to the gym and we work out and from there
(30:41):
he goes to work and I come home. At that time,
I load up the girls. I've got three girls, load
them up, take them to a park so they get
their exercise. And Ken, I'm in the office no later
than sometimes, you know, six thirty seven. I get a
good start. And why because One, I want to be
in the power seat when the day starts. I want
(31:02):
to control how the day goals. That's why we wake
up super early. And two, I do have clients worldwide,
so they can call it any time. They're very respectful
of timing, but I want to be available to them. Now,
why do I do this? What what's the what's the
drive that that's causing me to wake up and continue
(31:24):
serving clients? The bigger, bigger goal. The bigger goal, Ken,
is I want to be able to open a nonprofit
for dogs. It's going to be called for pause resort.
It's going to be a forever home for dogs, Dogs
that are abandoned, dogs that are sick, dogs that people
don't want. These dogs, I can consider them as little
(31:47):
angels from God. And so that's where my heart belongs.
That's that's that's my big why, Ken, It's it's because
of these innocent angels that need a home. And that
would be the legacy, including the books and what have
you written, But that would be the legacy that I'd
like to leave behind.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You and my wife would be best friends. I'm not
if we could rescue every dog on the planet, they
would be in my house. She actually, every single day
of her life, in the morning, she goes to a
horse and she volunteers for a horse and donkey rescue
and here in Dallas or North Texas, and she literally
(32:30):
goes every morning and feeds these horses and these this
one subset of that she takes care of at this
farm right outside of town, and every night she does it.
And it's like, but dogs are where her heart is.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Like the horses are just big, giant dogs. They could
be naughty too.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yes, yes they can.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I've been there and they're very intuitive too, yes, yes,
they know exactly what who to trust and who not
to trust. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I was going to say, at Buckingham Palace, you have
guards there on horses, and tourists always want to go
up there and take a photo with them. There's one
particular horse is extremely notorious for, you know, kind of
pushing the tourists away or biting them or pulling them
and he'll he'll nibble like this, and you can see
(33:30):
he's done it to so many except for this one.
She was a special needs kid.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I saw a video I think special.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
The horse just you know, sort of very gentle very,
sort of getting close to the kid, just very protective.
It was amazing to see ken. So animals have this
you know, protective side. To me, it's just beautiful to
see it is.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It is absolutely I think I saw a video or something,
maybe on Instagram or somewhere ionized, but I know, I
know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
So your ultimate goal is to have a dog rescue
in San Diego, I'm assuming yes, and what about taking
it nationwide?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
That's exactly what we'll be doing. Headquarters. Headquarters will be
here in San Diego, because you know there's no reason
to move and then yes, absolutely can and hopefully internationally
as well.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Wow, that's amazing. So so what's next for you?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
What's next for me is life. Life has been pretty fantastic.
Let me put it that way. I'm a very positive person.
I choose to see the good in life and I
have grown, if you will, over the years. Ken my
other two businesses. One is called go Legal Yourself dot
(35:03):
Com the name my husband came up with that name,
and it's a online company. It's basically a business in
a box with all the templates that you need to
start your business and all the contracts that you're gonna
need also, So it's called go Legal Yourself dot Com.
And I created that business for clients or potential entrepreneurs
(35:26):
that one don't want to go see a lawyer. They
are above going to online companies and they just want
a solid corporation with solid contracts. So I created that.
And then I also created Pitbull pit Bulls and Pearls
Pitbulls and Pearls coaching company. This is for people who
(35:48):
love life and mean business. There's so many lessons that
I have learned from my dogs can unbelievable. And these
are simple lessons that you can apply in business and
you can apply personally to yourself too, And that's how
I'm out there trying to change and help people. And
(36:08):
what's next for me, we will see, We will see
what's next. I'm that there could be chatter of running
for political office, and there could be chatter of, you know,
maybe starting another company. I'm not quite sure. But what
I can tell you, Ken is that I'm not going
(36:29):
to be sitting still.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I love that though. You know my buddy Grant cardone.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Hash by the way. I love Grant. I've heard all
of his books. I think he's brilliant. I love his mindset,
and that's the type of mindset that I have.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yes, he's one of my biggest, if not my biggest mentor.
I sat in his office in twenty fourteen, I think
it was, and for three hours with him, and it
like rocked my entire life. And I thought I knew
everything already, but no, I didn't know anything. But he's
(37:09):
talking about running for governor of California. I think it
would be awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I know, I know to come talk to me.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I can connect him with political people.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, we're doing a we're doing an X space with him.
I think on December. I think it's thirteenth, the evening
of December thirteenth, to talk about the governor run. So
there's my buddy, Joe Ingram. He's up there in Orange
County by you so or I don't know if that's
(37:39):
by I don't know California well enough to.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Be it's probably about, you know, forty to fifty minutes north.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yes, yeah, he loves your backdrop.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
I love your backdrop.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Too, thanks, so so so talk about I know you
don't necessarily know what's next, or maybe you do and
you're just not spilling the he as they would say
in England. But what's I mean? What would motivate you
to run for political office besides California?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Because there, yes, exactly, you nailed it.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
And then do we You're like, can enough with the
rhetorical question.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Right right?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I think the one thing Ken, that I really really
want to highlight from a governmental standpoint is entrepreneurship. Why
isn't entrepreneurship being taught in high schools? That's what I
want to know. Why? Why is everyone you you're very
very familiar with rich dad, poor dad.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Yeah, I know very well.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
So why Ken, Why are our kids that are going
to be the future of this country, why are they
being taught to think like poor dads? Why? That's that's
what I want to know. America is such an incredible country.
I'm seeing it through my immigrant eyes. I wasn't born here, Ken,
but this is my home. I've made it my home.
(39:06):
It's been I'm living my American dream. By the way,
my American dream, I'm living it. It's alive and well,
and there's opportunity everywhere. You just have to know where
to look. You just have to have the pearls to say, listen,
I'm going to go for this opportunity, whether it's it's
something or not. If you don't, you're going to get
absolutely nothing. But entrepreneurship has really really allowed me to
(39:31):
become independent, to become financially independent, Ken, not to rely
on on a boss that could fire me tomorrow. There's
there's like you said, you're not employable. I am employable,
but I would take over. That's the type of mindset
that I would have.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
That's why I'm not employable. They don't want you doing that.
I learned that, Yeah, they don't want you taking over
exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
But really, it's really it just all comes down to entrepreneurship.
This country was based and it's been built on the
backs of entrepreneurs, and there really really needs to be
less regulation on entrepreneurs. There needs to be more access
to capital for ones that want to start. Why aren't
there these federal programs for kids that are going to
graduate from school? Why can't you give them five thousand
(40:19):
dollars which they apply towards a business right? So, I mean, America,
the government's pissing away millions and millions, and now it's
trillions of dollars, and every American should be outraged because
you know what, they're using your money and they're using
my money, and they're doing our youth and massive disservice.
So if I can help, and if I can shed
(40:40):
light on something that could be beneficial for America, not
just Californians, that that would be my calling.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I think that let's just go there. I'm going there
like this can follow join or tell me to shut up,
but I think that we have You're right, we have
a problem.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
You know, we're sending.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Oh this could get a shut down on Facebook, but
I don't care. I mean, we're sending billions and billions,
hundreds of billions of dollars. Now, a million dollars is
not a lot of money anymore. Five million is not
even really a lot of money. But like if you
hand the average person a million dollars, they're gonna feel like, wow, right,
(41:26):
that's a lot of money. But a billion dollars most
people can't even wrap their brain around that what that is.
And we're sending hundreds of billions of dollars to fund
foreign wars and all kinds of other crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Well, what about that museum in Angola? You know how
many billions of dollars Biden just gave them for what?
Because they want to they want to build a museum
for slaves.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
This is this is insane to me. Let's go there,
Let's go there. Oh, let's go the Africans, the kings
and queens of Africa, they're the ones that sold their
own people too become slaves. So now Biden's given them
billions of dollars to create what a museum for slaves
that they they created?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
And Kelly, we have I asked ROC because I don't
use woke Ai. I use Elon's ai, which is not woke,
and I asked ROC, like, what's the current number of
homeless US veterans? And it was somewhere I think. I
think the answer it was thirty or forty thousand, and
(42:41):
it's probably even more than that. But you know, I
think about the and people are like, well, they choose
to be homeless. Okay, I've been there as an adult.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
I was.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I had some issues back before I got sober a
long time ago. But you know, I think that we
need to address our problems here. I mean, we're we're
trying to play the goodwill and I honestly think it's
all just a big money laundering. But we won't. I
(43:15):
don't want to go too far. I don't need anybody
knocking on the door. But I think that, you know,
we have these these massive, massive amounts of money that
are going out to all these like I didn't even
know about this museum.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
What the hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (43:32):
It's crazy, so needless to stay because we're here now,
ken we're here. I am super, super excited about our
new president. I absolutely love Trump. I love love love
I've always loved him, even prior to him running for president,
because he's the epitome of an entrepreneur.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Yes he is.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yes, and we have a task force coming in too, right,
that's god. I know, guess what Biden's doing. He's trying
to empty the coffers. How insane.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
But it is people just and again the people who
support that, like they it's it's you know, cognitive dissonance.
They can't they can't think anything outside of what they
completely believe in. And thank god, I've not experienced that
in my life. I've always been pretty open to whatever,
(44:26):
like let me just see what's the what's going on here?
But you know, the bottom line is we have serious
freaking problems in this country and and and we're sitting
back and watching people just completely decimate the everything. It's crazy.
(44:47):
So so I want to hear about I want to
I didn't know we would go here, but we're here.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I want to hear your opinion on it because I
love the Vek Ramaswami and I love Elon. I love
Elon and Vivek. I love what Trump is doing with
them and the DOGE Department of Government Efficiency.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
I love it. I want to be part of it.
I absolutely love it. There needs to be oversight, Ken.
It needs to start from the top. Like you said,
they're pissing away billions and billions now were in debt,
in trillions of money, trillions. No one's ever seen what
a trillion dollars looks like, right, but we're in debt.
I am excited. This should have happened ages ago. The government.
(45:36):
They're creating these departments and we're funding them, and we
don't even know what these departments do. By the way, Ken,
did you hear that six percent, only six percent of
the federal workers actually go into work since the pandemic,
only six percent? So we're paying for the ninety four
(45:59):
percent of federal workers to stay home.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Unbelievable. And we could go there too. I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
So I was invited to speak at an event in
Los Angeles, and so I flew out there and I
remember what. I'll never fly into Lax again, by the way,
but I flew into Lax and I'm walking around and
(46:23):
I'm like, this is in like twenty twenty two, and
I'm like, why is everybody wearing a mask? Like everybody
had a mask? I'm like, what I mean, not everybody?
And they're announcing it on the speaker system. If you're
at LAX, you have to wear a mask, and I'm like,
you can kiss my mask.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
I'm not wearing a mask. Like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
It's so so disgusting, so unhealthy. Yes, yes, yep, I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
I think that, you know, and again I do believe.
I'm so see, we're conditioned to believe that if we
say the wrong thing, that we're we're going to get
in trouble with Facebook and all that. I just don't
care anymore exactly, you know, I think that, you know,
we're so conditioned to believe everything that comes from the media,
(47:20):
which is all a lie pretty much, that we're conditioned
to believe everything that comes from the government and all
of this stuff about the pandemic. I don't even I
think ninety percent of it was made up.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
One hundred percent. Can as far as what were you
You had just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Something about the media, the media, Yes.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yes, thank you. That's the other point, right So if
I if I was ever called to serve, that's the
other biggest thing that I need to bring attention to.
And no one's doing that right now. And I'm really
hoping that Trump's going to do something about it, because
it's the media. Either can you're a new use outlet
and you report on factual news that's all you do,
(48:05):
or you're an opinion outlet. You cannot mix the two.
You cannot do that because when you're when you're what
they're doing right now, they're injecting their own opinions. We
don't know what's factual, we don't know what's the truth
because it's it's the host that's injecting their opinions. So
and they can say anything on the show about someone
and ruin their credibility. This needs to stop. What happened
(48:28):
to journalism, actual real journalism. What happened to that No
one's doing their homework anymore. They hear something, hear say
and then they run out and write a false story.
So there needs to be consequences. Same thing goes to
these social media outlets, and yes we're talking, you know,
we're on Facebook right now, but I'm gonna I'm gonna
go there. I'm going to talk about this too.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
The biggest, the biggest party in this is Facebook. It
is It's Zuckerberg. He's the biggest contributor to all all
of this false information that was provided. I'm going there
can I'm saying it. But now they're coming back and saying, oh,
we'd like to play nice with you, President Trump. So
(49:10):
it really does take a solid leader like President Trump
to work with people like this, and he's doing the
right thing. But these outlets, they have to be held accountable.
I don't know when American people are going to wake
up and say, listen, we've had enough. They've done that
during this election, But what about all the lies that
was pedaled to us?
Speaker 1 (49:30):
I think, Kelly, I think, and I suspect that we're
probably on the same frequency here. I think that you know, so,
doctor Jerome Corsi has a double PhD in political science,
and he's a friend of mine, he's a friend of Trump's,
and he actually is an advisor, was an advisor of Trump,
(49:54):
and I was involved with helping him with some stuff
and the technol g space. I don't want to get
too far into it, but YouTube deleted my interview with
him on this show two and a half years after
I interviewed him, and I remember getting the email thinking,
(50:16):
because I you know, you see them, You hear people saying, oh,
we're being controlled and I and I and it's the
first time that it happened. And I said, why all
he said was Trump was going to win the election
in twenty twenty because he did. He said all that,
and he's you know, was calling out the truth. And
then they deleted it and I was like, they deleted it,
(50:38):
are you kidding me? And so, you know, I think
what we really need to address, and I really hope
that this next administration does address, and I think they're
going to, is the absolute abhorrent evil that's surging through
the veins of this world. And I'm talking about the
(51:00):
not the not the I'm talking about the puppet masters. Yes,
only a handful, and they need to be exposed. And
and this this needs to stop. I mean, it's got
to stop. It's insane, or we're going to end as
a human race.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
We're close to we're on the brink of war. You
know that we're this is this is where the administration,
the Biden Harris administration brought us. They brought us to
the brink of war. Is that what we want? We
don't want that we're the most powerful country in the world,
can in the world. We should be feared. But however,
(51:40):
because of who's running it. America is just a big,
massive business, right and the president is the CEO of
the business. So it depends on who's running the country.
Who's running the business, so putting really incredible leaders that
actually know how to lead. President Trump isn't even in office,
and you got heads of state around the world calling
(52:03):
him and backing he's not even in office.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
They're gone, tomorro Lago. Truth.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Did you see Trudeau go down there right this tale
between his legs.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Did you hear what Trump said to him?
Speaker 3 (52:22):
He said that you tariffs will kill us as the country.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
And Trump said, well, then maybe you should become the
fifty first stage.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
And you can be the very first governor of that state.
I love it. I love it. Look at this right
so and under Trump's administration and Vance, I'm super excited
about Vance as well. We needed to bring in some
young blood and conservative leaders like that. So I really
am excited about this administration and I've got big high
(52:53):
hopes for them.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
I love it. I absolutely love it. I had a
suspicion that we were on this theme page before I
ever met you, So Kelly, you know, I can't believe
we're already we only have a few minutes left. But
let me ask you an important question. I asked, you know,
there was a moment in my business. My wife and
(53:17):
I met. I had the company for two years, just
building websites for people, and then she had been the
global VP of marketing for two giant companies and she
was downsized in eight right.
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Her job was.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Gone, her whole department was gone, and so she came
and worked with me, and we teamed up and we'd
built a heck of a business. But you know, there
was a moment. There's been many moments, but there was
this one particular moment when a guy comes walking into
my office that worked for me, and he's like and
he's this big old dude, and he's like, hey, there's
(53:55):
some dude out in the parking lot looking in the
windows of your suv. And I go, I'm on the phone.
I go, dude, you're bigger than me, telling him to
get the hell out of here. He's like, he's got
it blocked with his tow truck, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
No, yes, Sepo.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
I had my car repossessed in front of all of
all four of my employees, and I remember standing out
in the parking lot and you cannot convince a tote
repo guy to not tow your car. I remember standing
out there and going, watching my my car go away,
and I'm looking at my employees, going it's gonna be okay,
(54:38):
I promise, and they you know that, you know they're
not believing you, and you know so, so talk about
if you would the things because they're I remember in
that moment, I thought, what is the point of going on?
Like I everybody's getting paid except for us, and so
how how do you what would you say to the
(55:01):
people listening who are right now? The economy still sucks.
I don't care what everybody's like, Oh it's getting better,
it maybe a little bit, but it's really really bad.
So what do you say to the people who are
barely hanging on by a tiny little thread and they're
about ready to throw in the towel? What do you
say to them? And I'm gonna give you full screen
(55:23):
for this because this might be the most important answer
that you delivered today.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Okay, all right, this message is to all my entrepreneur friends.
We are friends because we're entrepreneurs, and entrepreneurs really need
to stick together. But if you are on the brink
and you don't know whether you're going to make it,
and you want to throw the towel in. My advice
to you is simply look inside, reach inside of who
(55:52):
you are. If you were meant to be an entrepreneur,
you're going to find your way through this. There are
this help out there. If you need financial help, there
are grants, there's loans you can go to family and friends,
you can put up collateral. Do not do not drop
this because you're at the fork if you will where
(56:14):
you need money. If it's not a money situation, then
that's where you really need to think about. Is this
the plan that I want for this company? Which direction
do I want to take the company in? Were you,
first of all, were you even meant to be an entrepreneur?
Right if you started a company, you were meant to
be an entrepreneur because we have a different mindset, always
have a different mindset. As an entrepreneur. You're not just
(56:36):
responsible for yourself. You're responsible for others, your teammates, your employees.
And I promise you, I promise you, I've been there,
I've done this. I was on the brink of which
way do I go? I was hoping and praying. My
business plan was a hope and a prayer that money
was going to come in so I can pay my
(56:58):
bills and keep a roof over my head. That that
was my plan. Don't have that plan. Make sure that
you really do figure out who are you inside? Is
this something that you really want? Get some help being
an entrepreneur. It's tough surround yourself with other entrepreneurs. We've
all been through this, I promise you. But it's that
moment where you're going to hang in there. Things are
(57:20):
going to be tough. You're going to think that you're
drowning and nobody cares. I promise you. You put in
your blood, sweat and tears, and if this is your baby,
it's your responsibility to raise it. And if that means
that you go hungry for a couple of months or years,
that's your responsibility. And I promise you will become successful
because of the conviction and the heart and everything else
(57:43):
you've put into your business.
Speaker 4 (57:46):
That is beautiful. That is so beautiful. I do.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
I encourage people all the time just to just take
the next, one little baby step at a time.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Sometimes because can they say, how do you eat an
elephant right, one bite at a time. By the way,
don't eat elephants.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
We love elephants, right, Tony And yeah, but I think
you know, because of course the other side was like
Trump's filed bankruptcy. You know, I do know that He's
had companies that had to go bankrupt and that's just
the way life works sometimes in the business world. Many
(58:28):
many years ago, I had to go bankrupt. I mean,
I've been. You cannot be an entrepreneur and not have
gone through the crap of trying to figure all this
stuff out. It's not and I honestly, sometimes Kelly, I
wake up and go, I'm not quite sure why I'm
doing this because I maybe I'm a glutton for punishment.
(58:50):
I don't know, but you know, it is there is
something about being an entrepreneur and you're right, getting the
right attorney, getting the right CPA, surrounding yourself with the
right people. There's something about that that is just It's
probably the truest thing you could have said.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
And that's exactly what the government does. That's exactly what
our new administration has done. He surrounded it himself with
brilliant minds because you can't do everything all by yourself,
and there's so many entrepreneur groups that you can join,
especially if you're on the brink of I'm going to
throw this in. And by the way, there are different
types of bankruptcies as well. And you know what, that's
(59:34):
your right. It's the law if something, if you need
to scrap something so you can start fresh again, that's brilliant,
right ye. Our law allows for that, So yes.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Amen, I agree. And there's no shame in the game.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
And that means that you took a risk. You took
a risk. That means you did something with your life.
Now if that didn't work, you continue, pick up and
continue with the next one.
Speaker 4 (59:59):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Kelly Bagla, you are amazing and one of my new
best friends. I'm so so grateful that you came on
today and shared your wisdom and your story. I would
like to invite you if you would like. I'm an
Amazon influencer also, which means I'm allowed to live stream
directly to Amazon's customers. So maybe we can do a
(01:00:23):
separate Amazon live and sell your books to Amazon.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Thank you, Yeah, lovely, We'll.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Chat about that once we end this live stream, which
I'm getting ready to do. So Kelly, I have your
website scrolling across the bottom of the page, everybody, go
to Bagla Law dot com b A G L A
l A W dot com. For those of you listening
on the podcast network, go visit Kelly's website and follow
(01:00:54):
her on Where's the best place to follow you on
social media?
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Instagram and Instagram? Okay Instagram, LinkedIn?
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Okay, okay Instagram and LinkedIn. Go follow Kelly and is
there anything else you'd like to say to everyone before
we end this?
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Just as entrepreneurs, keep going, keep your faith strong. You're
going to need to believe in something higher than yourselves,
and I promise you it's always going to get you
through the hard times. You're not the only one that's
gone through or going through the hard times. We've all
been been through it and now look at us right,
So success is just around the corner for you.
Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Kelly, thank you so much, and thank you to everybody watching.
If you shared this out, thank you. If you have
not yet shared this out, there is time for you
to redeem yourself and go ahead and share it out.
So geez, sorry, excuse me, everybody, have a great day.
Thank you again so much, Kelly, Thank you, Ken, Thank
(01:01:56):
you see you guys later. Stay with me by the way, Kelly,
I want you with you real quick. We'll see you
guys later.
Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Aye.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Bye.
Hey, good morning, and welcome to Breakthrough Walls. I'm Ken
Walls and I'm your host, and today I have the
law on the show. I'm kidding. I have the amazing
Kelly Bagla. She is an attorney and I am so
excited to have her on the show. So do me
a favor if you would share this out with everybody
(00:25):
that you know, and let's get a bunch of people
on here to hear Kelly's story. And she has a
lovely British accent I'm sorry, English accent, and you're going
to love her. So stay with us. We'll be right back.
Share this out, We'll see you soon, and we are back.
(01:15):
Let me bring Kelly on to the show. Kelly, welcome
to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Thank you so much, Ken for having me on. It's
a delight.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I am grateful to have you here. I know absolutely
nothing about you except for your New York Times best
selling author, which I'm a publisher, so for those of
you that don't know, that means she sold at least
twenty five thousand books in one week. That's incredible and
(01:46):
I'm happy to.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Have you here. So let me start with this.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So I started this to help people have a breakthrough
in life, and I did it selfishly. I was stuck
at the time in my own life, and I'm like,
you know, I think if I listen to enough other
people talk about how they got unstuck, it'll help me.
And it did so, and I'm excited for you to
be able to help other people today. So tell everybody
(02:13):
where it all began for you. Where were you born
and raised if they can't tell already?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Right exactly? And thank you, by the way for correcting
the accent. It's not British. It is English. Yes, I
was born and raised in England, and I have spent
most of my life actually in the States, believe it
or not. I've been here probably about twenty five twenty
seven years now. But I don't think I'll ever lose
(02:39):
the accent. And I've been told never to lose the accent.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You not lose that accent, that's right, don't.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Do you got it? You got it?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I love that accent.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And it's English. Why is it not British?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
What's the difference that there isn't a country that is
called Britain, right, Britain itself is made up of the
other countries. We've got Scotland, we've got Wales, and then
when you bring in the UK United Kingdom, that brings
in all of the other countries, including Ireland, and so
(03:17):
England is a separate country by itself all the time, Ken,
and people have been just mingling everything together and they
just call it British.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I did not know that. Wow, some educational value already
for me. So well, welcome to you and your beautiful
English accent. So Kelly, so you were born and raised
though in England. Correct, when did you move to the US?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So I've had an interesting journey, Ken, born and raised
in England. Right after high school we start h well,
we start the nursery which you called kindergarten here at
the age of three, so we are two years ahead
of the American educational system. So when I came when
I finished my high school in England, i came out
(04:12):
to the Bay Area. That's where my sister and brother
were living at the time. I thought, oh, I'm on,
I'm on my summer holidays. Let me go out and
say hello to him. I've never been out here before.
I absolutely loved the place, and after further discussions, decided
to apply for student visas and what have you. And
I completed my schooling both in England and also here
(04:34):
in the US. I've got a master's degree in law
which allowed me to sit for the bar. And it's
been interesting, to say the least. I was what sixteen
fifteen sixteen when I first arrived here. I'm the baby
of seven, ken, so I've obviously enjoyed each other.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
No television in the house, right.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So I'm the only one that has gone into law.
All of my other siblings they are all in the
medical profession in some form and respect. My dad he's
an entrepreneur, and I followed in my dad's footsteps. But
I am the only attorney. And again being the baby
of seven, mom wanted me home for a while because
(05:21):
I was out in the States. So I took advantage
of that time and I went to law school in England.
So my schooling is both from the UK and the
US as well.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
So you you did not go to law school here
at all.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I did a master's here, Okay, yes, yes, So.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You bounced around a little bit. So when you and
I know a lot of attorneys. I don't know if
you saw the intro video, but prior to his passing away.
I was friends with Judge ken Starr, who is famous
for impeaching Bill Clinton. He was, he was, He was
(06:00):
such an incredible guy. I actually did a private book
signing for him in Columbus, Ohio when I lived in
Ohio and met him and his wife and they were wonderful,
wonderful people. But I so I know a lot of attorneys, right,
so talk a little bit about why you decided to
pursue If everybody else in your family is doing medical
(06:24):
stuff and you're like, nope, I'm going to be an attorney,
why what was the push?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I must have been about five years old and I
was watching a show on TV on the Telly, Ken
on the Telly on the Telly, and I know it
might seem like England's the third World country now, but
it wasn't at the time. Back then.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm talking about your parents having seven children.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Like they stopped at me and they said, listen, it's
time to get a Telly now. So yes, I grew
up watching.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I love that. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
There was a particular show on that used to play
every week and it was called The Queen the King's Counsel.
I'm sorry, the Queen's counsel at the time. Now we
have the King, but it was called the Queen's Counsel,
and every single time the barrister would go in and
win the case and win the day. And I always
found that so fascinating, and so I absolutely truly stuck
(07:24):
to my guns, and I said to my dad, Dad,
I want to be look, I want to be that.
I had no idea what that was, and so over
time came my conviction in what I wanted to be
has never ever changed. It's always been a lawyer, a lawyer,
a lawyer. And here I am several years later.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You know, Kelly, I so one of my friends is
an attorney. She's a client of mine, lives here in Dallas,
and we took our daughter over to their house for
this Christmas dinner thing a couple of years ago. And
their house is humor I mean huge, huge, huge elevator
inside it's really beautiful. And so we left and she goes.
(08:08):
She's sitting in the back seat, she was twelve, and
she goes, Dad, I know what I want to do
with my life. And I said what She goes, I
want to be a rich Attorney's very specific.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I love it not just.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Attorney, not just an attorney, because there's plenty of poor attorneys.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh, there's plenty rich attorneys.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So I love that. So it was it started, and
my daughter has not let go. She's fourteen and a
half now and she's not let go. She still wants
to go to law school and be a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Beautiful. She'll stick to her convictions, Kenn, and she's going
to become that rich lawyer.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I know. Right.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So when you so you you were in England when
you graduated from law school? Where did things go for
you from there?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Is there a bar exam there too?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I guess I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So you can take there's there's two routes that you
can take in England. You can either become a barrister,
which is a trial lawyer here in the US, or
you can become a solicitor, which is a transactional lawyer
here in the US. I chose to go transactional corporate law.
And again, why because that's where the money is. Ken,
your daughter's super smart.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, that's where the money is, right.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So so you did that? Did you practice law?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Then? In in England?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I sat for my solicitor's course, and because before one
can practice there, you have to do a call it
a pupilage, call it a internship with a law firm
over there in the UK. But for three years, Ken,
three years, so and doing that those three years, I
(10:00):
can move you around to any department. So I want
to be a corporate lawyer.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Guess what.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Guess who's getting that phone call two am in the
morning that you have to go bail someone out. It's
going to be the me. So and three years, I
chose not to stay there. I chose to come back
to the US, and I chose to pursue my masters here,
which allowed me to sit for the bar and here
in California, of all places. And I've been practicing Ken,
(10:28):
it's my twentieth year. Twenty twenty years I've been practicing law.
I've been providing excellent service to my clients, and I
love each and every one of them.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Ken, that is so amazing. Twenty years in California.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
California, Ball States.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yes, h What in the world I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay, I think you're in the San Diego area, right,
So I understand that it's beautiful there. It's beautiful, yes, yes, so,
But what made you go I'm gonna move to California
from England and practice law right right.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And my sister and brother were here in California. If
they were in New York, I'd probably go to New York.
They were in California, and this is where we've sort
of settled as well.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, I've been to I've been to Stegg I've been
to Carl's Bad, which is, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's exactly where my office is. Ken so yes, in
Carl's Bad.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I was invited to be a speaker doctor Fad me
and sen. He invited me to come to his event
and at the Avira Resort. Are you familiar with?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
That is the most gorgeous place I was. I came home,
I told my wife, I'm like number one. I had
the very best steak I've ever had in my life
at that resort.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Number two.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
You've got to see it. So we're coming back there
someday to visit.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I would love to host you. You make sure you
connect with me.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's so nice, thank you? So so okay, So you
started did you? Did you in California? Did you put
out your own shingle? Did you start your own practice
or did you work for somebody for a while.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So when I first started applying, I passed the bar,
I started applying for my very first attorney position, and
it was with Baker McKenzie in San Diego. It was
the largest international law firm in the world Ken, in
the world, not just the US.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Currently right now it's probably about three or fourth in
the world, but at the time when I started, it
was the number one international law firm. I learned from
some brilliant minds, not just domestically here Ken, but internationally
from across the globe, because we were based in sixty
nine countries. Sixty nine countries, and so right out of
(12:57):
the gate, I must have blown the socks of the partners.
They loved me instantly. They offered me the job right there,
and then there was no well, let you know, miss Bagler, No, no,
they offered me the job, and so that really opened
up massive doors for me. Everybody knows who Baker McKenzie
is and what they do, and the reputation is pretty impeccable.
(13:20):
And I did start off with the largest firm. I
learned very quickly the politics of large firms as well,
and you learn a lot I mean I was a
young lawyer, bright eyed and bushy tailed.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Ken.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I was out there. I was going to crush it,
you know, I was going to make a name for myself.
And here I am. And as soon as I start working,
they give me a laptop and a BlackBerry. Do you
remember there was blackberries?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yes, we have one around here somewhere. I just saw
it recently.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Well, you can see it in the museum, right, what
happened to BlackBerry? But I.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Muddy said that the other day to me, They're like,
I missed my BlackBerry keyboard. I think it was an
attorney actually client of mine that said that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Right, So they give you an electronic leash, right, so literally,
wherever you are they can get a hold of you.
I was working sixteen seventeen, eighteen hours a day. Ken.
I loved it. I loved it because I was young.
I wanted to absorb everything that I could, and I
worked in their corporate and Securities department. That was my
official title, Corporate and Securities attorney. From there, after learning
(14:29):
that or behind the scenes, the politics and what have you,
at one point we actually got a partner from Hell
Ken from Hell and when she joined within the first month,
there were ten of us that left, ten attorneys that left.
So during that time I was one of them because
(14:51):
they brought her into the corporate department. And from there
I went to a smaller firm. It was an IP firm.
They needed to build out their corporate department. I in
and did that. Within six months, I was promoted to
senior corporate attorney. And then probably another year or two,
I said, listen, I started going out and doing business
development and bringing business back. And I said, at some
(15:14):
point I would like to talk about a partner route
at the firm. And the partner said, oh, yeah, that
would be great, but however, we have to pay the
debt off first before you can gain profits. And I said,
that's not a relationship. But when I enter into starting
off with debt and that's your debt. So at the time,
it was two thousand and nine. Ken two thousand and
(15:36):
nine was when I decided, if I can make money
for someone else, why can't I make money for myself?
Right with all the tools that I learned, I went
out and I started Bagler Law Firm APC. It was
the most brilliant day of my life. This journey has
(15:58):
been absolutely incredible. Ken, If I had to do it
all over again, I'll do it exactly the same way,
exactly because my experience at the big firm and then
the medium firm, and then me actually opening my firm,
it taught me and led me to where I am today.
I zealously represent my clients. I take a personal interest
(16:19):
in my clients and Ken, I am also known as
the Queen of Business Law.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That title was given to me by my clients. Why
you would ask, right, Well, the Queen is the most
powerful piece on the chessboard, however, because she can move
in any direction, her only job is to protect the king,
and for us, our client is the king. If I'm
the most if I'm the most important, the client obviously
(16:55):
needs to be protected. So I was given that name.
Plus I'm English. We had the Queen at the time ruling.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
There you go, right, So, so talk a little bit
about I'm just curious. I always wonder, like you know,
obviously you've reached incredible levels of success with your firm
and your book and everything that you've done, But did
(17:24):
you ever I have another client that's an attorney, and
she's really, really successful. She's retired kind of, and you know,
she talks about a day when her and her partner
couldn't make payroll and they were like she she literally
gets emotional talking about this one particular moment because of
(17:48):
a client not paying and all kinds of stuff. But
she gets very emotional, and it causes me to be
emotional listening to it, right, And I'm like, but because
I've been there, like can't make hey roll and it's like,
oh my god, I'm a loser. But like, you know,
but she's she talks about and then there was this
(18:08):
magical thing that happened. The money came in and you know,
but have you had and buildings go back to the beginning,
the first day you open, and the first year, two years,
five years, whatever. Did you have any of those moments
where you're like, we're done, We're not gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yes, and yes, Ken, nobody likes.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
To talk about those, but I think that it's important.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
You have to talk about it. You have to the
people that don't want to talk about the heartaches and
the success, the failures and what it really takes to
get through these hard times. You have to be out
there to talk to people. You have to so other
people can get through their it's much easier. I'm a
huge believer ken in we are all here put on
(19:00):
earth to serve each other. And if you have gone
through and experienced yourself where you feel that this could
help someone, please don't be quiet, actually speak out. These
were some of the hardest times of my life, and
they usually are for entrepreneurs. Is one is, well, where
do you get how do you get business?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
How do you get business? If I didn't join the
mid firm after the big firm, if I hadn't joined
the middle sized firm, I would never have known how
to sell. What am I supposed to say? Go out
to someone? Because we're attorneys, we're not allowed to solicit, right,
So I can't just walk up to someone and say, hey,
(19:41):
do you need an attorney? You're starting a business? Here's
my god, you can't do that. So how is it
that you get business? The very first thing I did,
Cane was I joined the Chamber of Commerce, Carl's Bad
Chamber of Commerce, and I got very involved because being
a member just showing up to events and not really
participate and you're not going to get anything out of it,
(20:02):
So you really have to get your your feet wet,
you jump in, you volunteer. You actually have people meet
with people and they get to they they they start
getting to know who you are, and you're there every month.
So the chamber, that would be one big, massive advantage
that I would say is for any new business that
(20:23):
wants to start join your local chamber, get known first
and get involved with the community. So that was the
first thing I did. The second thing I did was
as an attorney, I'm allowed to tell my clients where
I'm going. And there was a handful of clients that
actually walked with me and ken to this day, those
clients are still with me.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
That's so awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
With me still with me, that's awesome. And so for
the first first year, it was basically one how do
you know to set your pricing? So you're always going
to undercut yourself because you don't know you have no
idea what charge for something because we never build anyone
at the big firms. That was a billing department, So
you've got to figure out how much to charge. Then
(21:08):
you've got to obviously find someone. Then you have to
come back and do the work. So you're the one
that's doing everything right. You're wearing every each and every hat.
You have to be the collection agency as well. And
very quickly early on. And one beautiful thing that attorneys
are actually allowed to do legally is to be retained first,
(21:28):
so we don't have to lift a finger without being
paid first. So very quickly learned put people on a retainer.
The money's there, Okay, now I can provide services. But Ken,
I had bills to pay. When I joined the big firm,
I bought a house in San Diego. You know, they're
(21:50):
very expensive. I bought a house thinking I'm going to
stay with the firm. I'm going to be a rich lawyer.
I'm going to be a partner at this largest firm.
It didn't happen. So now I'm thinking, how am I
going to make my payments, my bills? How am I
going to keep a roof over my head? One of
the biggest securities for any woman to ever have in
(22:13):
her life is security is a roof over her head.
That's the biggest security any woman needs. And that security
was being shaken Ken, It was being shaken for me.
I'm a huge believer in in yourself. Right, you have
to believe in yourself. You cannot rely on other people
(22:37):
believing in you. You have to believe in yourself. I
fell back on that. I fell back on the principles
that my dad taught me. Every month, somehow, can somehow,
I swear to God. Every month I would find a
client that would give me five thousand dollars now I
could pay my mortgage and my bills. And I did
(22:59):
this every time I would get a client that passed
or it was too expensive, or sorry, we're not going
to do this right now. It hurt. It hurts so
bad because I was relying on that client. How am
I going to pay my bills? I even went as
far as maybe I could be a contracted attorney for
(23:22):
other law firms. Right, So, just trying to find my bed,
it's super difficult, extremely difficult if you don't have any guidance,
and ken you're looking at a self made woman. I've
never had any guidance, say father, right, and whatever I
have achieved, however far upcoming life, I'm the type of
person that loves to pay it back. I did it
(23:42):
the hard way. Let me show you how not to
do it the hard way. That's my philosophy in life,
and that's what I do for my clients as well.
But I remember those days, Ken, of course I remember
those days. At one point there were two mortgages on
my home, two of them, and one of them was
going to call, and I was just what do I do?
Who do I borrow money from? What can I do?
(24:04):
Can I go to the bank, Can I get a loan? Somehow?
Every month I would end up finding a client that
would give me five thousand dollars. And I say, somehow, Ken,
I believe in the Almighty, Yes, Almighty, And people can
(24:26):
have their own beliefs, and they can call it the universe,
and they can call it whatever they want. This is
how I was raised. I believe in the Almighty. In fact, Ken,
you're gonna love this. I call God my bestie.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah no, I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So I was very very in touch with my bestie
through this whole time. It got me through. And when
I say somehow, it wasn't somehow, it was Bestie helping
me through. Ken, That's how I got through. I'll never
forget those days because this is where we come from
as entrepreneurs. This is where Jeff Bess came from. He
started in his garage for God's sake. You know, entrepreneurs
(25:04):
the ones that are very committed and that those are
the ones that become successful.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's in Elon musk got you know, look at his story.
My god, he he took every last like. There's so
many examples. And you know, I was telling somebody recently
that you know, we've all heard the story about Colonel Sanders,
how he was sixty five years old, got his first
(25:32):
whatever it was pension check or whatever the and he
was like, how am I going to live on this?
And and that's when he went out and started his
thing at sixty five years old. And I just think about, like,
because I've been there, I've been in business for a
long time. I've been an entrepreneur my entire life. I'm
a horrible employee for another company. I mean I am,
(25:54):
I'm just I always say I'm not employable. So but
you know, so what are some of the big what
are some of the big mistakes?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
You see?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Because I started my company on a twenty dollars loan
and went out and knocked on doors doing website development
and helping people, and it was horrible. I had twenty
dollars to my name, and what are some of the
things that you see entrepreneurs and business owners, what are
(26:25):
the mistakes that they're making that's holding them back from
huge expanse because I think we all want that bigger
expansive growth.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right absolutely, as an entrepreneur, just like yourself, Ken, I'm
an entrepreneur three times now, I'm a CEO of three
companies that i've started, right, But my law firm, Bagla
Law Firm is my baby, It's my passion and it
will always be my first love always. So I have
seen mistake after mistake that entrepreneurs make. The biggest, biggest
(26:59):
mistake is when they get money, they just spend it
as if there's no tomorrow. They spend it on silly
stuff like, oh, let's spend you know, fifteen thousand dollars
on a website. It's not needed. Let's spend five thousand
on marketing material, it's not needed. Let's spend you know,
five hundred dollars on business cards, it's not needed. So
(27:19):
that's that's the number one issue or problem or mistake,
actually mistake that I see entrepreneurs make. The second problem
is their mindset they are usually that's a big, big problem.
Usually they're they're very set in their ways and they
very well. I know this and I know that, and
(27:39):
nobody knows everything right, that's why you come to the professional.
So I'm the professional and I'll tell you how it is.
The especially when when when they want to grow, there's
a lot of fear there web BEFA, can't make it,
We'll be for Can well you start again? You start again?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
These are these are failures that you learn from every
single time. Failures can be a beautiful thing, and more
failures at the beginning is perfect because could you imagine
a big, massive financial failure while you're in business for
five six years and all of a sudden that could
potentially bankrupt the company. So all of these mistakes that
(28:19):
entrepreneurs make, I highly encourage them to make them earlier on.
But they absolutely shouldn't move forward without getting consultation. And
any business needs two partners on their side always. One
is a fantastic CPA knows exactly what they're doing, and
also a brilliant attorney, a corporate attorney, because it's a corporation,
(28:40):
it's a business, and it's mismanaging of money, it's not
having the right mindset, and then it's bringing in fifty
sixty people where they're saying, I've given stock out to
my uncle Joe and my aunt Betty and you know,
my friends from high school, and and then they want
(29:01):
to actually go into funding from a outsource VC. It
doesn't happen like that. So stop thinking that you know everything,
slow down, get proper guidance, because nobody wants to build
a solid business on shaky ground. You wouldn't build a
house on a foundation that's not solid. Same thing applies
(29:22):
with business as well.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Amen, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
What is your like like when you wake up in
the morning? What is your And I love that coffee cup,
by the way, that is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I am I am married to a marine. Oh I
had I had. I love my marine. So I'm very biased.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I love that And of course in San Diego, how
could you meet a marine?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Is that exactly?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
So?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
But so so, when you wake up in the morning,
you know, I'm going to the office or I'm going
to work or what is it that drives you that
makes you continue to And I know you know, love
of clients, and I get that part, but is there
something deeper in you that you feel like really drives you.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yes. Absolutely. My morning routine, my husband is in construction,
so he wakes up at three o'clock am. I wake
up at three thirty am. We have breakfast together. We
have three dogs, so we feed the dogs at the
same time. They're on our schedule. Then we both go
to the gym and we work out and from there
(30:41):
he goes to work and I come home. At that time,
I load up the girls. I've got three girls, load
them up, take them to a park so they get
their exercise. And Ken, I'm in the office no later
than sometimes, you know, six thirty seven. I get a
good start. And why because One, I want to be
in the power seat when the day starts. I want
(31:02):
to control how the day goals. That's why we wake
up super early. And two, I do have clients worldwide,
so they can call it any time. They're very respectful
of timing, but I want to be available to them. Now,
why do I do this? What what's the what's the
drive that that's causing me to wake up and continue
(31:24):
serving clients? The bigger, bigger goal. The bigger goal, Ken,
is I want to be able to open a nonprofit
for dogs. It's going to be called for pause resort.
It's going to be a forever home for dogs, Dogs
that are abandoned, dogs that are sick, dogs that people
don't want. These dogs, I can consider them as little
(31:47):
angels from God. And so that's where my heart belongs.
That's that's that's my big why, Ken, It's it's because
of these innocent angels that need a home. And that
would be the legacy, including the books and what have
you written, But that would be the legacy that I'd
like to leave behind.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You and my wife would be best friends. I'm not
if we could rescue every dog on the planet, they
would be in my house. She actually, every single day
of her life, in the morning, she goes to a
horse and she volunteers for a horse and donkey rescue
and here in Dallas or North Texas, and she literally
(32:30):
goes every morning and feeds these horses and these this
one subset of that she takes care of at this
farm right outside of town, and every night she does it.
And it's like, but dogs are where her heart is.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Like the horses are just big, giant dogs. They could
be naughty too.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yes, yes they can.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I've been there and they're very intuitive too, yes, yes,
they know exactly what who to trust and who not
to trust. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I was going to say, at Buckingham Palace, you have
guards there on horses, and tourists always want to go
up there and take a photo with them. There's one
particular horse is extremely notorious for, you know, kind of
pushing the tourists away or biting them or pulling them
and he'll he'll nibble like this, and you can see
(33:30):
he's done it to so many except for this one.
She was a special needs kid.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
I saw a video I think special.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
The horse just you know, sort of very gentle very,
sort of getting close to the kid, just very protective.
It was amazing to see ken. So animals have this
you know, protective side. To me, it's just beautiful to
see it is.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It is absolutely I think I saw a video or something,
maybe on Instagram or somewhere ionized, but I know, I
know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
So your ultimate goal is to have a dog rescue
in San Diego, I'm assuming yes, and what about taking
it nationwide?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
That's exactly what we'll be doing. Headquarters. Headquarters will be
here in San Diego, because you know there's no reason
to move and then yes, absolutely can and hopefully internationally
as well.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Wow, that's amazing. So so what's next for you?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
What's next for me is life. Life has been pretty fantastic.
Let me put it that way. I'm a very positive person.
I choose to see the good in life and I
have grown, if you will, over the years. Ken my
other two businesses. One is called go Legal Yourself dot
(35:03):
Com the name my husband came up with that name,
and it's a online company. It's basically a business in
a box with all the templates that you need to
start your business and all the contracts that you're gonna
need also, So it's called go Legal Yourself dot Com.
And I created that business for clients or potential entrepreneurs
(35:26):
that one don't want to go see a lawyer. They
are above going to online companies and they just want
a solid corporation with solid contracts. So I created that.
And then I also created Pitbull pit Bulls and Pearls
Pitbulls and Pearls coaching company. This is for people who
(35:48):
love life and mean business. There's so many lessons that
I have learned from my dogs can unbelievable. And these
are simple lessons that you can apply in business and
you can apply personally to yourself too, And that's how
I'm out there trying to change and help people. And
(36:08):
what's next for me, we will see, We will see
what's next. I'm that there could be chatter of running
for political office, and there could be chatter of, you know,
maybe starting another company. I'm not quite sure. But what
I can tell you, Ken is that I'm not going
(36:29):
to be sitting still.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I love that though. You know my buddy Grant cardone.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Hash by the way. I love Grant. I've heard all
of his books. I think he's brilliant. I love his mindset,
and that's the type of mindset that I have.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yes, he's one of my biggest, if not my biggest mentor.
I sat in his office in twenty fourteen, I think
it was, and for three hours with him, and it
like rocked my entire life. And I thought I knew
everything already, but no, I didn't know anything. But he's
(37:09):
talking about running for governor of California. I think it
would be awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I know, I know to come talk to me.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I can connect him with political people.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, we're doing a we're doing an X space with him.
I think on December. I think it's thirteenth, the evening
of December thirteenth, to talk about the governor run. So
there's my buddy, Joe Ingram. He's up there in Orange
County by you so or I don't know if that's
(37:39):
by I don't know California well enough to.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Be it's probably about, you know, forty to fifty minutes north.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yes, yeah, he loves your backdrop.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
I love your backdrop.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Too, thanks, so so so talk about I know you
don't necessarily know what's next, or maybe you do and
you're just not spilling the he as they would say
in England. But what's I mean? What would motivate you
to run for political office besides California?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Because there, yes, exactly, you nailed it.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
And then do we You're like, can enough with the
rhetorical question.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Right right?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I think the one thing Ken, that I really really
want to highlight from a governmental standpoint is entrepreneurship. Why
isn't entrepreneurship being taught in high schools? That's what I
want to know. Why? Why is everyone you you're very
very familiar with rich dad, poor dad.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Yeah, I know very well.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
So why Ken, Why are our kids that are going
to be the future of this country, why are they
being taught to think like poor dads? Why? That's that's
what I want to know. America is such an incredible country.
I'm seeing it through my immigrant eyes. I wasn't born here, Ken,
but this is my home. I've made it my home.
(39:06):
It's been I'm living my American dream. By the way,
my American dream, I'm living it. It's alive and well,
and there's opportunity everywhere. You just have to know where
to look. You just have to have the pearls to say, listen,
I'm going to go for this opportunity, whether it's it's
something or not. If you don't, you're going to get
absolutely nothing. But entrepreneurship has really really allowed me to
(39:31):
become independent, to become financially independent, Ken, not to rely
on on a boss that could fire me tomorrow. There's
there's like you said, you're not employable. I am employable,
but I would take over. That's the type of mindset
that I would have.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
That's why I'm not employable. They don't want you doing that.
I learned that, Yeah, they don't want you taking over
exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
But really, it's really it just all comes down to entrepreneurship.
This country was based and it's been built on the
backs of entrepreneurs, and there really really needs to be
less regulation on entrepreneurs. There needs to be more access
to capital for ones that want to start. Why aren't
there these federal programs for kids that are going to
graduate from school? Why can't you give them five thousand
(40:19):
dollars which they apply towards a business right? So, I mean, America,
the government's pissing away millions and millions, and now it's
trillions of dollars, and every American should be outraged because
you know what, they're using your money and they're using
my money, and they're doing our youth and massive disservice.
So if I can help, and if I can shed
(40:40):
light on something that could be beneficial for America, not
just Californians, that that would be my calling.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I think that let's just go there. I'm going there
like this can follow join or tell me to shut up,
but I think that we have You're right, we have
a problem.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
You know, we're sending.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Oh this could get a shut down on Facebook, but
I don't care. I mean, we're sending billions and billions,
hundreds of billions of dollars. Now, a million dollars is
not a lot of money anymore. Five million is not
even really a lot of money. But like if you
hand the average person a million dollars, they're gonna feel like, wow, right,
(41:26):
that's a lot of money. But a billion dollars most
people can't even wrap their brain around that what that is.
And we're sending hundreds of billions of dollars to fund
foreign wars and all kinds of other crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Well, what about that museum in Angola? You know how
many billions of dollars Biden just gave them for what?
Because they want to they want to build a museum
for slaves.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
This is this is insane to me. Let's go there,
Let's go there. Oh, let's go the Africans, the kings
and queens of Africa, they're the ones that sold their
own people too become slaves. So now Biden's given them
billions of dollars to create what a museum for slaves
that they they created?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
And Kelly, we have I asked ROC because I don't
use woke Ai. I use Elon's ai, which is not woke,
and I asked ROC, like, what's the current number of
homeless US veterans? And it was somewhere I think. I
think the answer it was thirty or forty thousand, and
(42:41):
it's probably even more than that. But you know, I
think about the and people are like, well, they choose
to be homeless. Okay, I've been there as an adult.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
I was.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I had some issues back before I got sober a
long time ago. But you know, I think that we
need to address our problems here. I mean, we're we're
trying to play the goodwill and I honestly think it's
all just a big money laundering. But we won't. I
(43:15):
don't want to go too far. I don't need anybody
knocking on the door. But I think that, you know,
we have these these massive, massive amounts of money that
are going out to all these like I didn't even
know about this museum.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
What the hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (43:32):
It's crazy, so needless to stay because we're here now,
ken we're here. I am super, super excited about our
new president. I absolutely love Trump. I love love love
I've always loved him, even prior to him running for president,
because he's the epitome of an entrepreneur.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Yes he is.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yes, and we have a task force coming in too, right,
that's god. I know, guess what Biden's doing. He's trying
to empty the coffers. How insane.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
But it is people just and again the people who
support that, like they it's it's you know, cognitive dissonance.
They can't they can't think anything outside of what they
completely believe in. And thank god, I've not experienced that
in my life. I've always been pretty open to whatever,
(44:26):
like let me just see what's the what's going on here?
But you know, the bottom line is we have serious
freaking problems in this country and and and we're sitting
back and watching people just completely decimate the everything. It's crazy.
(44:47):
So so I want to hear about I want to
I didn't know we would go here, but we're here.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I want to hear your opinion on it because I
love the Vek Ramaswami and I love Elon. I love
Elon and Vivek. I love what Trump is doing with
them and the DOGE Department of Government Efficiency.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
I love it. I want to be part of it.
I absolutely love it. There needs to be oversight, Ken.
It needs to start from the top. Like you said,
they're pissing away billions and billions now were in debt,
in trillions of money, trillions. No one's ever seen what
a trillion dollars looks like, right, but we're in debt.
I am excited. This should have happened ages ago. The government.
(45:36):
They're creating these departments and we're funding them, and we
don't even know what these departments do. By the way, Ken,
did you hear that six percent, only six percent of
the federal workers actually go into work since the pandemic,
only six percent? So we're paying for the ninety four
(45:59):
percent of federal workers to stay home.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Unbelievable. And we could go there too. I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
So I was invited to speak at an event in
Los Angeles, and so I flew out there and I
remember what. I'll never fly into Lax again, by the way,
but I flew into Lax and I'm walking around and
(46:23):
I'm like, this is in like twenty twenty two, and
I'm like, why is everybody wearing a mask? Like everybody
had a mask? I'm like, what I mean, not everybody?
And they're announcing it on the speaker system. If you're
at LAX, you have to wear a mask, and I'm like,
you can kiss my mask.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
I'm not wearing a mask. Like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
It's so so disgusting, so unhealthy. Yes, yes, yep, I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
I think that, you know, and again I do believe.
I'm so see, we're conditioned to believe that if we
say the wrong thing, that we're we're going to get
in trouble with Facebook and all that. I just don't
care anymore exactly, you know, I think that, you know,
we're so conditioned to believe everything that comes from the media,
(47:20):
which is all a lie pretty much, that we're conditioned
to believe everything that comes from the government and all
of this stuff about the pandemic. I don't even I
think ninety percent of it was made up.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
One hundred percent. Can as far as what were you
You had just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Something about the media, the media, Yes.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yes, thank you. That's the other point, right So if
I if I was ever called to serve, that's the
other biggest thing that I need to bring attention to.
And no one's doing that right now. And I'm really
hoping that Trump's going to do something about it, because
it's the media. Either can you're a new use outlet
and you report on factual news that's all you do,
(48:05):
or you're an opinion outlet. You cannot mix the two.
You cannot do that because when you're when you're what
they're doing right now, they're injecting their own opinions. We
don't know what's factual, we don't know what's the truth
because it's it's the host that's injecting their opinions. So
and they can say anything on the show about someone
and ruin their credibility. This needs to stop. What happened
(48:28):
to journalism, actual real journalism. What happened to that No
one's doing their homework anymore. They hear something, hear say
and then they run out and write a false story.
So there needs to be consequences. Same thing goes to
these social media outlets, and yes we're talking, you know,
we're on Facebook right now, but I'm gonna I'm gonna
go there. I'm going to talk about this too.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
The biggest, the biggest party in this is Facebook. It
is It's Zuckerberg. He's the biggest contributor to all all
of this false information that was provided. I'm going there
can I'm saying it. But now they're coming back and saying, oh,
we'd like to play nice with you, President Trump. So
(49:10):
it really does take a solid leader like President Trump
to work with people like this, and he's doing the
right thing. But these outlets, they have to be held accountable.
I don't know when American people are going to wake
up and say, listen, we've had enough. They've done that
during this election, But what about all the lies that
was pedaled to us?
Speaker 1 (49:30):
I think, Kelly, I think, and I suspect that we're
probably on the same frequency here. I think that you know, so,
doctor Jerome Corsi has a double PhD in political science,
and he's a friend of mine, he's a friend of Trump's,
and he actually is an advisor, was an advisor of Trump,
(49:54):
and I was involved with helping him with some stuff
and the technol g space. I don't want to get
too far into it, but YouTube deleted my interview with
him on this show two and a half years after
I interviewed him, and I remember getting the email thinking,
(50:16):
because I you know, you see them, You hear people saying, oh,
we're being controlled and I and I and it's the
first time that it happened. And I said, why all
he said was Trump was going to win the election
in twenty twenty because he did. He said all that,
and he's you know, was calling out the truth. And
then they deleted it and I was like, they deleted it,
(50:38):
are you kidding me? And so, you know, I think
what we really need to address, and I really hope
that this next administration does address, and I think they're
going to, is the absolute abhorrent evil that's surging through
the veins of this world. And I'm talking about the
(51:00):
not the not the I'm talking about the puppet masters. Yes,
only a handful, and they need to be exposed. And
and this this needs to stop. I mean, it's got
to stop. It's insane, or we're going to end as
a human race.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
We're close to we're on the brink of war. You
know that we're this is this is where the administration,
the Biden Harris administration brought us. They brought us to
the brink of war. Is that what we want? We
don't want that we're the most powerful country in the world,
can in the world. We should be feared. But however,
(51:40):
because of who's running it. America is just a big,
massive business, right and the president is the CEO of
the business. So it depends on who's running the country.
Who's running the business, so putting really incredible leaders that
actually know how to lead. President Trump isn't even in office,
and you got heads of state around the world calling
(52:03):
him and backing he's not even in office.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
They're gone, tomorro Lago. Truth.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Did you see Trudeau go down there right this tale
between his legs.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Did you hear what Trump said to him?
Speaker 3 (52:22):
He said that you tariffs will kill us as the country.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
And Trump said, well, then maybe you should become the
fifty first stage.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
And you can be the very first governor of that state.
I love it. I love it. Look at this right
so and under Trump's administration and Vance, I'm super excited
about Vance as well. We needed to bring in some
young blood and conservative leaders like that. So I really
am excited about this administration and I've got big high
(52:53):
hopes for them.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
I love it. I absolutely love it. I had a
suspicion that we were on this theme page before I
ever met you, So Kelly, you know, I can't believe
we're already we only have a few minutes left. But
let me ask you an important question. I asked, you know,
there was a moment in my business. My wife and
(53:17):
I met. I had the company for two years, just
building websites for people, and then she had been the
global VP of marketing for two giant companies and she
was downsized in eight right.
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Her job was.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Gone, her whole department was gone, and so she came
and worked with me, and we teamed up and we'd
built a heck of a business. But you know, there
was a moment. There's been many moments, but there was
this one particular moment when a guy comes walking into
my office that worked for me, and he's like and
he's this big old dude, and he's like, hey, there's
(53:55):
some dude out in the parking lot looking in the
windows of your suv. And I go, I'm on the phone.
I go, dude, you're bigger than me, telling him to
get the hell out of here. He's like, he's got
it blocked with his tow truck, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
No, yes, Sepo.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
I had my car repossessed in front of all of
all four of my employees, and I remember standing out
in the parking lot and you cannot convince a tote
repo guy to not tow your car. I remember standing
out there and going, watching my my car go away,
and I'm looking at my employees, going it's gonna be okay,
(54:38):
I promise, and they you know that, you know they're
not believing you, and you know so, so talk about
if you would the things because they're I remember in
that moment, I thought, what is the point of going on?
Like I everybody's getting paid except for us, and so
how how do you what would you say to the
(55:01):
people listening who are right now? The economy still sucks.
I don't care what everybody's like, Oh it's getting better,
it maybe a little bit, but it's really really bad.
So what do you say to the people who are
barely hanging on by a tiny little thread and they're
about ready to throw in the towel? What do you
say to them? And I'm gonna give you full screen
(55:23):
for this because this might be the most important answer
that you delivered today.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Okay, all right, this message is to all my entrepreneur friends.
We are friends because we're entrepreneurs, and entrepreneurs really need
to stick together. But if you are on the brink
and you don't know whether you're going to make it,
and you want to throw the towel in. My advice
to you is simply look inside, reach inside of who
(55:52):
you are. If you were meant to be an entrepreneur,
you're going to find your way through this. There are
this help out there. If you need financial help, there
are grants, there's loans you can go to family and friends,
you can put up collateral. Do not do not drop
this because you're at the fork if you will where
(56:14):
you need money. If it's not a money situation, then
that's where you really need to think about. Is this
the plan that I want for this company? Which direction
do I want to take the company in? Were you,
first of all, were you even meant to be an entrepreneur?
Right if you started a company, you were meant to
be an entrepreneur because we have a different mindset, always
have a different mindset. As an entrepreneur. You're not just
(56:36):
responsible for yourself. You're responsible for others, your teammates, your employees.
And I promise you, I promise you, I've been there,
I've done this. I was on the brink of which
way do I go? I was hoping and praying. My
business plan was a hope and a prayer that money
was going to come in so I can pay my
(56:58):
bills and keep a roof over my head. That that
was my plan. Don't have that plan. Make sure that
you really do figure out who are you inside? Is
this something that you really want? Get some help being
an entrepreneur. It's tough surround yourself with other entrepreneurs. We've
all been through this, I promise you. But it's that
moment where you're going to hang in there. Things are
(57:20):
going to be tough. You're going to think that you're
drowning and nobody cares. I promise you. You put in
your blood, sweat and tears, and if this is your baby,
it's your responsibility to raise it. And if that means
that you go hungry for a couple of months or years,
that's your responsibility. And I promise you will become successful
because of the conviction and the heart and everything else
(57:43):
you've put into your business.
Speaker 4 (57:46):
That is beautiful. That is so beautiful. I do.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
I encourage people all the time just to just take
the next, one little baby step at a time.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Sometimes because can they say, how do you eat an
elephant right, one bite at a time. By the way,
don't eat elephants.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
We love elephants, right, Tony And yeah, but I think
you know, because of course the other side was like
Trump's filed bankruptcy. You know, I do know that He's
had companies that had to go bankrupt and that's just
the way life works sometimes in the business world. Many
(58:28):
many years ago, I had to go bankrupt. I mean,
I've been. You cannot be an entrepreneur and not have
gone through the crap of trying to figure all this
stuff out. It's not and I honestly, sometimes Kelly, I
wake up and go, I'm not quite sure why I'm
doing this because I maybe I'm a glutton for punishment.
(58:50):
I don't know, but you know, it is there is
something about being an entrepreneur and you're right, getting the
right attorney, getting the right CPA, surrounding yourself with the
right people. There's something about that that is just It's
probably the truest thing you could have said.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
And that's exactly what the government does. That's exactly what
our new administration has done. He surrounded it himself with
brilliant minds because you can't do everything all by yourself,
and there's so many entrepreneur groups that you can join,
especially if you're on the brink of I'm going to
throw this in. And by the way, there are different
types of bankruptcies as well. And you know what, that's
(59:34):
your right. It's the law if something, if you need
to scrap something so you can start fresh again, that's brilliant,
right ye. Our law allows for that, So yes.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Amen, I agree. And there's no shame in the game.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
And that means that you took a risk. You took
a risk. That means you did something with your life.
Now if that didn't work, you continue, pick up and
continue with the next one.
Speaker 4 (59:59):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Kelly Bagla, you are amazing and one of my new
best friends. I'm so so grateful that you came on
today and shared your wisdom and your story. I would
like to invite you if you would like. I'm an
Amazon influencer also, which means I'm allowed to live stream
directly to Amazon's customers. So maybe we can do a
(01:00:23):
separate Amazon live and sell your books to Amazon.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Thank you, Yeah, lovely, We'll.
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Chat about that once we end this live stream, which
I'm getting ready to do. So Kelly, I have your
website scrolling across the bottom of the page, everybody, go
to Bagla Law dot com b A G L A
l A W dot com. For those of you listening
on the podcast network, go visit Kelly's website and follow
(01:00:54):
her on Where's the best place to follow you on
social media?
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Instagram and Instagram? Okay Instagram, LinkedIn?
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Okay, okay Instagram and LinkedIn. Go follow Kelly and is
there anything else you'd like to say to everyone before
we end this?
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Just as entrepreneurs, keep going, keep your faith strong. You're
going to need to believe in something higher than yourselves,
and I promise you it's always going to get you
through the hard times. You're not the only one that's
gone through or going through the hard times. We've all
been been through it and now look at us right,
So success is just around the corner for you.
Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Kelly, thank you so much, and thank you to everybody watching.
If you shared this out, thank you. If you have
not yet shared this out, there is time for you
to redeem yourself and go ahead and share it out.
So geez, sorry, excuse me, everybody, have a great day.
Thank you again so much, Kelly, Thank you, Ken, Thank
(01:01:56):
you see you guys later. Stay with me by the way, Kelly,
I want you with you real quick. We'll see you
guys later.
Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Aye.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Bye.
Popular Podcasts
CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist
It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.