Episode 587 - Interview with Jim Poole! - Breakthrough Walls

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, good morning, and welcome to break Through Walls. I'm
Ken Walls and I'm your host, and today I have you.
Guys are not gonna believe who I have on the
show today. His name is Jim Poole. You may not
have heard of him yet, but he's very, very cool.
I was referred to Jim by the one and only

(00:23):
Mark Victor Hansen. So do me a favor. Stop what
you're doing. Share this out. Let's get a lot of
people on here. You're not gonna this guy's partnered with
Tony Robbins, Jim Quick, some amazing, amazing, freaking leaders in
this world. So share this out with everybody you know

(00:44):
and we will be right back. Okay, we're back. Let

(01:20):
me bring Jim on. Jim, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Thanks for having me on Breakthrough Walls. I'm ready to
bust them through, man, I'm ready. I am ready for you.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I am so excited to have you on here. I
just recently met you. We talked on a phone call
a couple a couple of weeks ago, I think, and
I was in Scottsdale hanging out with Mark Victor Hanson
and his wife, and we were at dinner and Mark said,

(01:56):
you've got to check out this Da da da da da,
and I'm I'm like, okay, and so and I'm not
going to go into what it is yet. We don't
want to, we don't want to do that yet. But
you know, I, I can honestly say I use your
technology every day of my life, and and thus far

(02:18):
it's been absolutely unbelievable. It's been incredible. So you know, look,
I started this about six years it's almost exactly six
years ago now that I started the show, and it
was literally to have a breakthrough of my own and
to help other people. So let's start with you telling

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everybody where where it all began. Where were you born
and raised? Jim?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I was born in Denville, New Jersey, and I lived
there for about four and a half minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I don't blame you.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, if you have your choice, you get out of
Jersey quickly. But I shared a baby apartment with an
identical twins brother, and I came out four minutes earlier.
It's amazing how much maturity and intellect happens in those
four minutes. So the two hundred and forty seconds that
I've have maturity over my twin brother is demonstrative. You
can tell a big difference. That's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Raised in Connecticut for the first eleven years, and then
moved to New York and then to Boston and then.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, wow, so you live in Boston.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I live in Tampa now. I've kind of been a
of an East Coast gypsy for fifty six years, and
then I moved to Tampa after our youngest of three
daughters graduated high school and we were.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Gone, Wow, so did so You stayed in Boston though
for the most part.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I was in New York for eleven years. I was
in New York for eight years, Connecticut for eleven, bostoneen
and then Delaware raising my girls for twenty two. Yeah
wow yeah so gypsy a true yeah, true, like New
England gypsy until I moved to Delaware. And you know,

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if you said, hey, what's your favorite place, probably Boston.
I really loved Boston, and I was in my late teens,
twenties and beginning my early thirties in Boston. And I
love the intellectual horsepower, I love the energy, I love
the architecture, the intellectual arrogance. I can do it out,
but the food's gotten a lot better. So, yeah, I

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loved it. I love Boston.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
So I'm trying to think if I've ever I don't
know that I've ever been to Boston. I don't think
I have.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Actually, have you been to London?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
No, Okay, I hear the seafood is pretty amazing in Boston.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
It is amazing.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
And you know, lobsters are like the cockroaches of the sea.
They eat heartbridge on the bottom of the water. So
the lobsters they pull out of the Boston Harbor are
like fifteen to twenty pounds. I mean, thank god, lobster clams, oysters. Yeah. No.
So you know when I when I started living in

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Boston thirty five years ago or more, yeah, maybe forty,
the food was great. But in the nineties in the
two thousands, there was kind of a big evolution of
just great dining in Boston.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
All what Tyler, this is my buddy, Tyler said, minus
the sports. Yeah, this is true, and I am.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I'm a Red Sox fan. And the pundits are saying
that we're gonna win the World Series this year starting
one and three to the Texas Rangers. Isn't a isn't
a hopefully a Harbinger of things to come. I'm a
Bruins fan, and they kind of hit their peak a
couple of years ago when they had the best regular
season in history and went out in the first round.
I'm a Celtics fan and they are the best in

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the industry. But I'm a Cowboy fan.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Ken, I know, we talked about that.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
What the heck? Well, how the heck does someone who
spent his formative years in Connecticut, New York and Boston
be a Cowboy fan. I'll tell you how. My grandfather
was an American football player in Temple, Texas and then
to Sinsbury, Connecticut. So I grew up in a house

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of just rabid fandom. This was great time because this
is Cowboys versus Steelers, and yeah, a lot of a
lot of goodness and a lot of heartache. The Steelers, man.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I know I was. I'm still a Steelers fan.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, I mean those were I mean, before free agency,
you could build an empire and keep it empire.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. So so where did you so
you went to? You went to? Where'd you graduate high school?
In Boston?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Now in New York? Of course? The how the gypsy
living goes, I.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Mean it's say, wow, did you go to college?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I did. I spent a time in university. So I
went to Hartward College in New York for a couple
of years. Then I went to University Massachusetts and Amhersho
graduated from there with a BA in psychology. Then in Boston,
I did a post baccalaureate medical school sponsorship program at
Harvard Medical School. And then I got into an mdphd
neuropsychopathology program and began that and said, you know what,

(07:34):
I'm not going to go to school for eight more years,
and I went to Babston and got my MBA in Wellesley.
So I spent a lot of time in the Boston
area in Massachusetts getting my higher education. I love school.
In fact, you said, hey, Jim, would you like to
go to London School of Economics and get your PhD
in economics, I'd be like, heck, yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
But Jim, I won't be I won't be asking you
that question. So you're good. That is so funny. So,
so how you have a PhD or an MD or both?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
No? Neither. I abandoned medicine. I went down the whole path.
I did the MCATs, I did all the work I
needed to accepted. And it wasn't that I grew tired
of it. I was getting to a place where I
couldn't see myself going to school for eight years and
trying to raise a family in Boston with my wife.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I remember one night it was four o'clock in the morning,
I got up to p and I had one of
those cathartic My Amigdala woke up and says, you don't
want to do this. So I ended up going out
to the living room sleeping on the futon, and my
wife came out in the morning. She says, what are you
doing out here? I got up and said, I don't
want to pursue an mdphd. And she said, what You've

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worked so hard to do it. I said, I know
it doesn't make a lot of sense, but there must
be something else I can do that's shorter. So I
went to get my MBA.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
So, okay, you got your MBA and what was the
final MBA?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
International Business and Marketing.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Okay, So, so where did things go from there?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
For you? Then they went to an amazing place. Boston
at the time, late nineties and two thousands was just
a vestibule for intellectual capital and venture capital. So I
got involved in Wall Street mergers and acquisition behavior and
activity kind of operating the entire value chain from target acquisition,

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due diligence, investment thesis, presenting the investment thesis, doing the
road show, securing the funds, and then running the company
post acquisition. So I spent more than a decade doing
amazing work in various industries from medtech to biotech, pharmaceutical
to information tech, financial services. Our firm, we had a

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firm called Focused Evolution. We executed the largest private equity
acquisition in the history of the dental industry in two
thousand and seven and eight, and it was a multi
hundred million dollars acquisition, and that was the last acquisition
by Credit Swiss Stelg, Merchant Banking and m and a
kind of went by the way of the Dodo bird

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in two thousand and nine for a while while the
economy was tanking. At the same time, the neuroscientist who
invented this technology contacted me out of the blue and
it was a left turn, but it really a securitest
route back to where I wanted to be, which is

(10:43):
in science and brain science. So remember I got into
an mdphd neurocycle pathology program, which is studying the idiology
of mental illness.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well, hold it, okay, I didn't go to Harvard. So
what is ideology? You're using words I have to google.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Awesome, Okay, I will get rid of the three syllable words.
Theealogy is how did this come to be?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh? I love that? Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay, how do you get mental illness? Where does it
come from?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I love that? Well, and Tyler, I hope he's still watching.
This will help him. I pick on Tyler. He's such
a good dude. But so okay, so so talk about
So the guy that invented this technology reached out to
you and you were living where at the time, Delaware? Okay,

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so I'm definitely not been to Delaware.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
In two thousand and two, we gave birth to our
first daughter, Beth is his hospital, and I was working
in Cambridge. My wife was working in downtown Boston. We
lived in Newton, and I just was growing tired of
my commute, which was about nine miles but it took
forty five minutes. And I tell my wife it was
six horns and five fingers every commute and I could

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identify where these happened, literally with great predictability, because hey,
I got a finger coming this turned here. My wife
was like, this is unbelievable. Oh my god, loss of
living and just you know, probably just the pace I
wanted better for my daughter. I wanted a slower pace,
and I wanted a different life than I was living

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at the time. So we kind of just opened up
a map and said, wow, you know, it's liberating and
ken when you realize, wait a second, I'm not obligating
in America. I can go anywhere. So we open up
a map and we looked around and like, okay, where
do we want to go? We don't know. We're not
anchored to anything. Our family was kind of in the
New England area, and we settled on Delaware, of all places,
only because my wife was in corporate banking and that

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was kind of the epicenter of banking. So we flew
down to Delaware in July of twenty twenty three, and
three weeks later we moved. Wow was playing in a
rock band. The band was called Guitar Mgeddon. We had
three lead guitar players.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Hold it you were playing in a rock band.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, I was playing in a rock band, and so
I remember we called one last gig. We did the gig,
and two days later I.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Moved, Wow, yeah, that's insane. So do you play lead
or rhythm?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Is there any point in playing rhythm? Of course I played.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Hey, I play rhythm. Stop all right, So my guest
has to go unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
If you had your brothers, you'd play lead guitar. Correct.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I started playing lead when I was very very young,
and I moved into rhythm, and i've and I can
play some lead, but not Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
put it up against anybody.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
My favorite guitar player is Steve ray Vaughan. The music
we used to play was anything from a CDC to
Zeppelin to anything that involved good guitar solos. And I
actually sang too. I sang just as a means to
an end. Just get me to the lead. And free
Bird was one of our favorite songs because if you
have three league guitar players, guess what you're ending each

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show with.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
I can play free Bird. I can play free Bird.
You can't play free Bird. You're not really a guitarist.
I'm sorry, but but so so so you moved to
Delaware and that's where you were living.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I can see your brain trying to.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm not I'm I'm on track.
I'm I'm I'm thinking about the comment about lead though
I'm gonna have to go back to lead. So so,
but but talk about I'm kidding, So talk about when
this guy and what was what was your job career
at the time that I know you said it was

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around eighth nine, when the markets and everything was was
were collapsing.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
What was my job for a decade was running companies
for a living. Okay, assets, mergers and acquisitions, private equity acquisitions,
come in, operate the strategy, sell the company, and move on.
So and it was fun because you know, I have
an intellectual curiosity, but I have an easy boredom factor.
So you come in, you apply the strategy, you put

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the chess pieces on the board, and then you address
the company and you sell it. So what the cool
thing about it is you get to learn a lot
of different industries. But as you probably know because you're
in business, the fundamentals of business are the same. Competitive landscape,
target market segmentation, price sensitivity, all of it's the same.
It's just the variables are different per industry. So that's

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what that's what kind of drove my ambition, drove my
desire drove I really enjoyed that. But when I met
doctor Holloway, who called me in June early June of
two thousand and nine, upon reflection fifteen and a half
years later, my life changed almost immediately. And you know,

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the universe works in really cool ways, and when we're present,
we can see signs we think they're coincidence, is they're
not their only coincidence because in the rearview mirror you
weren't seeing all the signs that were coming anyway because
you were like in high stress, distracted brain state. But
the way that life came to me and everything kind

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of conjoined in June of two thousand and nine, it's
such a blessing. And anyone on this call will know
when you find your purpose, your life changes. Mission becomes
your purpose, Your purpose becomes your mission, and there's a
higher order and a higher level of responsibility. It's just
the same thing to me as the unconditional love that

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I feel for my children. My wife and I have
been together for thirty two years, but there's still conditions
we're consenting adults. We made choices, but my children it's
unconditional love. Yeah, So the same kind of parallel path
when you find your purpose. So that's that's the gift
that was given to me in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
And so talk about how things kind of expanded for
those that can't tell. If I give you full screen again,
you've got new calm everywhere. But that's not what I'm assuming,
that's not where it didn't pictures to check this out.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
This is cool. It's cool to be an identical twin.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Literally can half the time not even identify which one
was me.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Just to take a back tract, just for a second,
I was raised by two psychotherapists.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh wow when we were two, which just reinforces the
fact that two psychotherapists can't cohabitate. Wow, that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I was raised by a very strong single mom, and
I had an identical twin brother, so I have a
built in best friend for fifty six years. There's a
lot of telepathic strength and communication. There's a lot of
complimentary but the body structure is the same. So David
and I grew up with just an inherent aggression we

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love to fight, so we played football, we played wrestling.
We wrestled from five years old right through college. We
did martial arts for twenty years. So anything that we
could do to beat the snot out of each other
in some confines of law right rules, we did. And today,

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at fifty six years old, we've had the same teeth removed.
We both have had four disks taken out of our spine,
so our body is like even if you know, his
surgery was a year before mine or whatever, So that's
kind of cool. And the other cool piece ken about
having a best friend who's the identical twin brother. Is
I answer to two names? I answered to Jim and

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David because no one can tell us apart, right.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Wow, wow, And then that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
In two thousand and nine, in December, I called my
brother Oppo said, Hey, I have found something that I
can't really figure out the magnitude of what this could be,
but it's overwhelming the possibilities. Would you be interested in
exploring this with me and maybe joining our team. So
we flew out to Arizona together. We did some medical
stuff and surgery stuff, and at the end of that visit,

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he looked at me and says, I don't know what
we just did, and I don't really understand it, but
I'm in So he's been my consiglieri for almost sixteen years.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Now. Wow, that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
When I said, the world kind of has a secure
this path, and there's a lot of things that seem
like coincidence that they're not so here. I am raised
by two psychotherapists, so my social conditioning can is to
take care of disenfranchised people. I can't tell you how
many people came to live in our home when we
were young, who had nothing, nothing in the world. We

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were like a catchment, which almost seems dangerous today. No,
we were never in danger, but the scope of humanity
that we got to witness, the people that needed, you know,
unconditional love and support and had nothing. So I grew
up with that mentality and I pursued psychology, and I

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worked in the state mental health institutions of Massachusetts for
five years, working with Wow, the most difficult profile and population.
And at that point, Ken Governor Weld was creating homelessness
in Boston because he was closing down the mental hospitals
without any place for these folks to go. That's when

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homelessness started in the Boston Common in the nineties because
you closed Medfield State Hospital and you close all these
hospitals against So we were working with these folks, and
we were putting them into the community and trying to
get them to assimilate into culture. And one thing I
learned back then, when I was nineteen twenty twenty one,
I was like, Wow, I'm going to change the world
through psychology. And then I started working in these homes

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and my shift was like twenty four to forty hours,
and I'd go in as a lucid, normally function of
human and I'd leave as a paranoid lunatic every shift
because I was like wow. And then I've realized and
this was very humbling for me. I realized, Wow, I
can't help any of these folks. I certainly impose my

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will and change them. I may be able to be
a facilitator by giving them love and trust and guidance
and listening. Can't change any of these people. They're changing me.
I'm going crazy right oh that experience, and it's shameful
in America. If you choose to help people, you get

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paid nothing and you get abused. I was twenty two
years old and I was responsible for the lives of
fourteen people, and I was getting paid like thirty thousand dollars.
I mean, it's insane. That prompted me to go to
Harvard Medical School to do the science I needed to
get into the mdphd program. I figured, you know what,
I can't help them psychologically. You know, when we get

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into conflict with other people, there's so there's the truth
has three sides, right, my side, your side, and the truth,
and so you just get lost in this. And people
think that paradise schizophrenia the person's in a nonlinear thought
pattern all time. No, they're not. They're very bright, and
they're very lucid until they're not. So you can go

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on the path of a normal conversation. Then all of
a sudden, you take a left turn and you're like,
wait a second, and it requires a lot of energy.
So that was my path. And then I said, you know,
I'm not going to study the genus or the ideology
of mental illness because it's too much school now and
I'm getting exhausted. And I went and got my MBA
and got to do really cool things all over the world.

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Right then, full circle comes two thousand and nine. A neuroscientist,
a brain scientist, calls me up and says, I've invented
and here's what got my attention. I've invented a technology
that quickly and safely and predictably relaxes the mind and
body within minutes without side effects. I'd never heard that

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statement before.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Say that again, I invented that technology.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Quickly, predictably, and safely relaxes the mind and body without
drugs and without scient effects.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I would say that's accurate.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, And so that concept that gripped me. And then
we began a ten week kind of exploratory diligence phase
where I needed to learn what this was. And at
that point, this is all done over the phone, and
Blake is from the hills of Texas and Currville outside
of San Antonio, and you know, I wanted to help

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and I wanted to do something that was just being
incredible for humanity, but I couldn't see the commercial angle.
I couldn't figure it out. My head couldn't put the
pieces together, and in my soul I was beckoned to
fly down to Texas and try it. Before I told
this gentleman, no I can't help you. I was compelled

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to go, and I did. I got on a plane
and I flew down to Texas and I got into
a doctor's chair, and I was exhausted. I'd just flown
in from international travel and I was in Newkecolm in
this technology for thirty minutes. I still remember vividly the
first experience because I didn't itch on my nose, and

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I couldn't find the strength to itch it, and it
just kept repeating that you have a really big itch
on your nose. Who cares? My brain would wander.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
And then.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I was like, this is bizarre, and I got up
out of it. I was like, I have no idea
what you just did to me, but I feel amazing.
Right now, I feel amazing. I just flew from international travel.
I'm trying to digest all this complex science you're thrown
at me. My brain's a distracted porridge, and right now
I feel amazing. So the next day he sat in

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a boardroom and he whiteboarded the technology and it followed
a logic path. And that was really key for me.
If it's too esoteric and it's and it's too unbelievable,
that not only can I not believe it, But how
am I going to convince other people that it's possible? Right,
the logic path made perfect sense, and that was the start.

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So on the personal side, when I first met Blake Holloway,
he said, Jim, can I do a couple of things
to you? I said sure, And he did some movement
stuff and he did some tests on me, and he
looked at me and he says, you have TBI and says,
who the hell are you? And so you said, you
literally you've got traumatic brain injury. I said, well, I said,

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it makes sense. I mean I had fourteen hospitalized concussions.
I've been knocked out probably twenty more times where I didn't,
you know, go to the hospital, played football, wrestle, did
all this stuff. I said, I can see where that
could be the case. He said, no, you have no
idea the negative consequence. And he said, by the time
he turned fifty, Jim, I don't think he can be
able to tie your shoes. Well, that obviously is humbling.

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So at the end of this conversation and after the
end of talking about bringing this technology to the world,
he said, you know what, let's make a gentleman's agreement
I'll keep you healthy if you make me wealthy. We
shook hands, and a couple weeks later I took over
as chairman of the board, president CEO of a neuroscience
company in Texas that was founded by a brilliant and

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genius amongst geniuses. This man's intellect surpassed anything I'd ever met,
anybody had ever been with. And he had a clinical
practice in Texas and his specialty as a neuroscientist, quantum physicist,
naturopath was solving complex trauma, trauma and addiction, mostly from
people coming out of the theater of war and the

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genesis or why he did this. He began his research
in nineteen ninety And you say to him, how it
took you nineteen years to figure this out? He said, well,
the brain's complex and it's kind of and we're doing
things that have never been done before. I said, okay,
why why did you do this? He said, Jim, this

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gives me goosebumps. When you sit across from somebody, you
inherently care about them. They're vulnerable, they're sharing with you
their problems. You know the physiology of their brain, you
know the negative consequence of trauma, you know what's happening
in their brain, even if they don't know it, you
know the physiology. And for me to do conventional therapy,

(28:06):
which today warrants me giving you a narcotic based pharmaceutical. Okay,
to dull your brain problem.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Okay, there's not much in the world that pisses me
off more than that, just for the record, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Just how ridiculous it is in a second, it's crazy.
Give them a narcotic based pharmaceutical. Then try to engage
in cognitive behavioral therapy. Now, ladies and gentlemen, complex trauma
trauma addiction have a physiological challenge in the brain where
the amigdala is too active and the brain has lost

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faith and trust in you to protect you. The brain
has lost faith and trust in the universe as a
safe place. So how am I going to engage in
cognitive behavioral therapy, which means create new cognitive pathways to
a brain that says I trust no one and I
will listen to nothing. It makes no sense. The second

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thing that makes no sense, which is further going to
elucidate and anger response with you, are you ready? Narcotic
based pharmaceutical intervention makes no sense. Why fear, stress, anxiety, depression,
and worry are an autonomic nervous system problem. Autonomic nervous
system remember from tenth grade biology, autonomic nervous system, the

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stress response versus the rest response, and the fight or
flight response. That is where this resides. So why applying
logic would giving me a narcotic based pharmaceutical to suppress
my central nervous system help me? It doesn't. It just
dulls your brain. So that was the start. In nineteen ninety,

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doctor Holloway went on a quest to figure out how
can I help these people because if I don't, I
am condemning them to a life of misery and eventual suicide.
Not because they're cowards, they're not. They just get so
tired of living in this brain that they don't understand,
and they're tired of being living in shame and confusion

(30:19):
and constant state of agitation and paranoia, and they don't
do it anymore. So that's where this all started. Okay, wow,
fascinating media. You're like, uh, yes, please tell me more.
I want to know more. Yeah, Oh, this is gonna
blow your mind.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
And this guy's I'm sorry I forget his name.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
That you were doctor Blake Holloway.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Doctor Blake Holloway, and you with your background being raised
by two psychotherapists and everything like you obviously you were
on the same wavelength, no hunt intended, but you were
on the set. You understood each other and what he

(31:05):
was talking about. When it came to all of this,
How was that man talk about divine guidance of sorts?
That's pretty incredible.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
It's amazing, and people who have heard the story are like,
how did this happen? It's almost like an Indiana Jones
archaeological dig. How does a businessman from Wall Street find
his way in the hills of Texas to find a
neuroscientist quantum physicist? Rightiously, it's like none of it makes
sense now. Earlier it all has come full circle to me,

(31:37):
and in a random day in June of two thousand
and nine, my life changed and I wasn't even aware
of it because I was a fast, fast acting foot
you know, foot on the throttle type of human. So
let me share with you something really really cool, which
still to this day blows my mind. And you know,
I was with Blake and we were a partner in

(32:01):
helping humanity for eleven years before he passed. He passed
off cancer in December twenty twenty. Wow, but you're right,
I was. The beach had been softened for me and
my intellectual curiosity in my background in neuroscience to begin
at least to have a decent understanding to start. And

(32:22):
then I had the best trainer in the world. Blake
taught me all the things that he knew because I'm
the voice in the face of the company. So right,
but I'm going to share with you something that still
to this day blows my mind. And you want to
think about how people solve problems, and you have the
Einstein adage. You know, you can't solve problems with the

(32:43):
same you know path that was created, right, so you
gotta do something different. Okay, Blake didn't say, Hey, I'm
going to give you a drug. I'm going to stimulate
your brain, Blake said. The human brain wave operates in
operating system of forty one hertz frequency range. Every brain's

(33:03):
the same, we all play in the same range. There
are five categories of brainwave frequency. Many of us have
heard of Delta, that's deepest sleep. Theta is the lucid
dreams date in the healing zone, and alpha is relaxation
and beginning to sleep. So three of the five categories
of your frequency. Right, your path of your brainwave is

(33:26):
in sleep, and then you have beta and you have gamma,
which are faster frequencies. So that's the playing field of
the human brain. Now, Theta is a certain frequency four
hurts to seven herts, and it lies just above deep sleep. Now,
when I say deep sleep, I mean dreamless like deep sleep.

(33:46):
So for any of you listening who have children, you'll
know this story. Your children. Maybe they're seven years old
and they fall sleep on the couch watching a movie
and they're asleep for about twenty minutes, and you go
to pick them up to carry them to bed, and
they way close to one thousand pounds. You're like, how
how does my child weigh this much?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Right?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Dreamless like deep sleep of delta. Okay, your body is
being restored while your mind is kind of vacant. Well,
that's delta, dreamless like deep sleep. Above that is a
remlucid dream state called theta, and theta's frequency is four
hurts to seven hurts. Now, this is really important. Theta

(34:29):
is the healing zone for humans. It is the only
time in our biorhythm, the only time in our life
where your cells do their cellular maintenance and clean their toxins,
and your mitochondria, which is the energy source of your
cells and how we stay alive, is restored. Okay, so
this is the restorative piece of sleep. This is why

(34:52):
we need to sleep or we die. THEDA brainwave is
that place. So Blake, in his wisdom says, if I
can find a way to regulate your brain wave, to
fada and hold you there, you win and we win.

(35:13):
That is how this started in nineteen ninety. So there
are two ways can to trick or manage the human
brainwave frequency. We today in twenty twenty five, we rely
on external stimulation. We don't regulate our own brain wave function.
Monks do, and some other types of amazing aeradite folks
may be able to, But for the rest of us,

(35:35):
normal pedestrian humans, we rely on caffeine, accelerant drinks, alcohol,
recreational drugs, antidepressants, anti anxiety, sleeping pills, exercise, intimacy, conflict.
All of these external stimuli change the frequency of your brain.
That's how we how we feel. There are two ways

(35:55):
to regulate that frequency without any of that stuff. First
way is visual stimulation. This is called frequency following response.
You are following a frequency to elicit a response. Great
A thirty five percent of the human population can avoid

(36:16):
this predominantly because they're amygdala and they're fear centers too active.
They're like, stop doing that, you're just agitating me. I'm
not following, okay. The second way to do this is
to use your ears as a carrier to present your
brain with a signal. That's what doctor Holloway did. He

(36:39):
figured out using complex algorithms and physics and mathematics in
a software to put music on top of it, use
your ears to carry to the brain precise signals, and
like a tuning fork, your brain synchronizes to that pattern

(37:02):
and goes to the outcome. Wow, how and why and what?
Who would even think to do this?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Right? Right? Why? Yeah? Why why would he? So?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Why did it take him nineteen years? If this guy
is the brightest guy you've ever met, and we have
fifty two medical advisors on our advisory board, ken and
we're not on UM. I'm not talking about guys checking
my blood pressure. I'm talking about the world's leading statistical
biophysicists at Harvard Medical School, NASA mathematicians, medical oncologists, psychoonary monologists.
We have the best and the brightest in the world
because we invented something that didn't exist prior and go

(37:44):
through the FDA, and we had to go through Health Canada,
we had to go through patents, We had to do
all of this avant garde research to something no one understood.
And of our Medical Advisory Board for fifteen years, there's
fifty two of the best and brightest. They still don't
know how Blake did this.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
The trick is this. We use something called binoral beat.
We call it binoral signal processing. There's also a way
called isochronic waveform. So there's two ways to present your
brain with a signal. Now, most of us have heard
of binoral beat because there's like a million binormal beat
apps on the internet. Okay, well, then how would that

(38:26):
binoral bet app at ninety nine cents be different from
your product, which used to be a six thousand dollars
FDA class and medical device. Well, the first thing I
say is, let's apply logic. Do you think maybe there's
a difference, Yeah, it's significant. Okay, here's what I tell
people binoral beat is a delivery mechanism. It's a way
to deliver the signal to the brain. So if I

(38:49):
were to order a pizza and the pizza delivery person
shows up, I don't eat him. That's a delivery boy.
The right boy or delivery girl is binaral beat. What
are you presenting to me is what you need to eat.
So Blake's time years of studying this. There's an aspect

(39:14):
of our brain called a reticular activating system. Rearticular activating
system has a lot of amazement to it. It's an
incredibly complex piece of our brain, but its two primary
functions is pattern recognition and finding shortcuts. Okay, why humans,
there's no such thing as a second first impression because

(39:35):
your reticular activated system is so talented at pattern recognition
and using all five senses in your intuition to identify
every nanosecond of every new experience that when you go
for the second experience, your brain's already figured it all out.
His work and the time spent was trying to figure

(39:55):
out how do I trick the reticular activated system. Because
if I present use general beat the same static beat,
you'll get one listen, two, listens three, listens and then
your brain's figured it out. So what he figured out
was to use a nonlinear oscillating algorithm that's perpetually moving. Okay,

(40:17):
so wow. We have a product on the app called Rescue.
Rescues are Key Therapy. It's been right.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I use it every single day.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
It's unbelievable, unbelievable, and this is the idea of how
powerful physics can be. We started in medicine, we started
in surgical procedures, and today we've done over two million,
six hundred thousand surgeries, replacing general anesthesia with people being
operated on, wearing headphones and imask and listening to rescue.

(40:47):
That's how we started.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
As well, without anesthesia.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Without general anesthesia, you can still have local anesthesia. No
general anesthesia. You are an elucid dream state while you're
being on.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
This is crazy, it is crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I've witnessed about five hundred surgeries. We've done thousands of
before and after videos, and it's fascinating. Before the surgery,
you look at the person, You're like, wow, they're a mess.
Their neck is red, their lips are dry, they're talking
and gibberish, their eyes are darting. You're like, this person
is scared to death. After the surgery, they look completely relaxed,

(41:27):
and they look in the camera and say, hey, I
knew you were operating on me. I couldn't find a
place to care. That's how we've heard it.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
I couldn't find I mean, but see, that's the thing is.
And I'll just share a little bit of my and
I told you this, like there's there's different settings, like
you can do twenty minutes, you can do thirty minutes,
forty minutes, an hour, seventy minutes, and and so I remember,

(42:00):
remember I don't know a week or so ago, I
selected forty minutes. I thought, I don't know, forty minutes
just sounds right. So I did forty minutes, and about
twenty I think it was twenty seven minutes and some change.
I like, I don't want to say woke up, because
I wasn't. I don't feel like I was really sleeping.

(42:22):
It's so weird. I felt like I was sleeping, but
not like I was still kind of aware of my
s It's the weirdest thing. It's so hard to explain.
And at about twenty two or twenty seven, I don't
remember what the exact number was. Now but I like,
come out of it. I wake up. I come out

(42:43):
of it, and I'm like, hey, I still got twenty
minutes left. What's going on here? Why am I? And
I'm like, okay, just go back into it, dude, just
go back and I'm like all right, and I couldn't.
And I was like, what the heck is going on?
This is freaking crazy. So I take the headphone off
and I'm like, okay, let's let's get to work. And

(43:04):
I had one of the most productive days I've had.
I mean I was and I'm like, okay, this is placebo.
This is placebo. My mind believes it. So it's just
following the the what it believed, and so and so
and you had. I told you all this on our
phone call, and you had some great, great responses. But

(43:27):
I'm like, what the hell is going on? Man? I mean,
I'm not kidding. I was so productive that day. I've
never had a more productive day. I don't think. I
just was like, no distractions, didn't happen. Still was able
to go over and check on X in my and
but then I was boom right back to it. It
was unbelievable. So tell everybody what you show.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Ken number one. Clearly you're well adjusted and you're taking
care of your nervous system. Okay, because most people early
in their newcome journey will be in for forty minutes.
But your brain is smarter than our technology. Just like
if you eat slowly, you identify when you're full, and
your brain secretes grayling neurotransmitter says hey, I'm full. Your

(44:12):
brain says, hey, I've had enough. You can't go anymore.
Your brain's too smart. It's so you had enough recovery
at twenty one minutes or twenty two minutes, twenty three minutes.
When I say the healing zone, it's not just cleaning
the toxins out of the cells. When you're in newcom
rescue and you're in THEDA, here's something cool that happens
to your body, and you'll know this. You're lying in

(44:33):
your bed, you have your eyemask on, your headphones, and
your mind's kind of wandering, and then all a sudden,
you start to feel yourself falling into your bed. That's gravity.
You'll start to notice your respiration slow down well in
theta around four hurtz theata, your respiration cycles to one
breath every ten seconds. Six breaths a minute, and in

(44:55):
this oxygen pattern, it's the most volumetric oxygen that your
body can So what we're doing in that state newcom
is not the miracle. Your body's the miracle. We're just
liberating your stress response to allow your body to get
into the natural state. It covets.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Okay, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
At four hurts at one breath every ten seconds, we're
oxygenating your forehead. Your prefrontal and frontal cortex is what
separates us from primates, and in this area is our patience,
our personality, our character, our executive functioning, our logic, our emotions,

(45:34):
our decision making. The amygdala is in our mid brain.
It's an almond shaped piece, and so every day we're
battling and oxygen rich red blood is the currency of
the human brain. So the amygdala is a workaholic, and
your forehead has a reticular activating system that identifies patterns.

(45:55):
So your forehead is kind of a shortcut lazy one,
and the is a workaholic. Well, the amygdala is fear
and stress and anxiety and worry. So the job that
we have in our brain, all of us physiologically, is
the amigdala wants to work, and when it works, it
takes the oxygen from our forehead. That is why when

(46:16):
we're stressed, we don't think clearly. When we're stressed, we
are not patient, we are not present, we're not responsive.
We are reactive because the evolutionary reptile part of our
brain is dominating. So in rescue, we are leveling the
playing field and we're putting the amigdala at the kids

(46:36):
table where it's always belonged. It doesn't belong at the
adult table. So go sit in the corner and be quiet.
That's what we're doing. It's absolutely amazing to me when
we peel back all the manifestations and all the complexity
of what Blake invented. Part of it I think was intentional.
The other part you're like, there's no way a human

(46:58):
being could think through all these iterations. So let me
share with your audience, because I know we're going to
run out of time and I could talk at nauseum
about just amazing cool stuff about the human brain.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
If we go over, we go over, unless you got
to go. So, yeah, we need.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
To share with your folks what we've done. We're an
FDA Class three medical device, the highest regulated medical device
in the world, wow, six thousand dollars device from two
thousand and nine to twenty twenty one. In that time period,
we served the medical community through surgical procedures replacing general anesthesia.

(47:35):
We also serve stage four cancer. We also served the
Department of Defense Special Forces operators, Navy Seals, Air Force
Special Operators, Command Border Patrol, bor Tech and boor Star,
the DOJ with the FBI, and the Housage Rescue Team pilots,
professional athletes and celebrities. So we had a group of

(47:58):
humans that we served and served well. And these are
discerning audiences. You don't work with Special Forces operators since
twenty twelve. If your product doesn't work, you don't get
through the FDA Health Canada Military approval, you don't get
awarded the only patents in the world with research done
at Harvard and NASA, if the products will seebo. So
all of that's done. We're a hard core neuroscience company,

(48:21):
but it wasn't good enough for me. Having witnessed all
these surgeries and seeing all the work we were doing
with helping people stay alive from cancer. We weren't curing
cancer We were given the body the restorative needs to
cure yourself. If we can liberate you from stress and
anxiety and worry, and we can give you restored to sleep,

(48:41):
your body knows how to cure you of cancer, but
you can't do it if you're in this constant state
of stress and poor sleep. So we did all of
this work and in twenty sixteen, I challenged doctor Holloway.
I said, listen, this isn't good enough. This is amazing
what we're doing, and don't get me wrong, but we
can do better. We can help more. We have to
find a way to change the form factor and get

(49:04):
away from the FDA. We have to get this affordable,
accessible and easy to use. It took us five years,
but in November of twenty twenty one, we took all
of our science at that point, thirty plus years of patented,
clinically proven neuroscience, and we put into a mobile app.
We're now an app company. We deliver the world's only patented,

(49:28):
clinically proven technology that solves your stress and improves your
sleep without drugs. It's the only product in the world.
We launched us sixteen years ago and today we're still
the only patented, clinically proven product in the world. There's
tons of gizmos and gadgets out there, and they're making
claims that they can't support. I get it. That's fine,
that's called marketing. But we're a science company that delivers

(49:48):
a physiological outcome. Okay, then things got fun ken because
we had perfected theta brainwave function, we could take anyone's
b to the same place. Now you mentioned the Newcomb book,
which is an awesome book. This is written by the
esteem doctor Michael Gallitzer and Larry Trivieri in twenty fifteen.

(50:11):
And I'm friends with Tony Robbins, and actually doctor Gallaster
is the one who introduced me to Tony. So I
called Tony, Saiday, Tony, Michael's writing a book about Newcolm.
I want you to write the foreword. He said sure,
And we were working with monks.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Now wait wait wait wait was this before Tony got
involved in it? Or had was he already involved?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
So Tony was introduced to new calmb on May seventh
of twenty fifteen by this doctor Wow. In the fall
of this same year, I called him up, Saiday, Michael
who introduced to us, got it, wrote a book. I
want youry four and in twenty fifteen we started working
with monks. So here I am. I didn't invent new calm.

(50:51):
So I have an intellectual curiosity. And you know there's
an addede in Wall Street. In God, we trust everybody
else bring data. So I'm a David.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Doctor, okay.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
And so I can see the cancer stuff. I can
see the medical stuff. I can see the pilot fatigue
and restore to sleep. I can see the active military.
In the military, it's called expedited recovery without drugs. How
can these operators get two hours of restore to sleep
in twenty minutes so that they can operate at a
high level of efficiency and quantum decision making in a

(51:21):
very fast period under a lot of stress. So I
called the Yoganan and monk brother Craig Marshall. This gentleman
trained the Beatles on meditations with Steve Jobs and confidant
at the end of his life okay, and George Harrison.
So he's a monk, thirty five year practicing monk. So
here's a book about neuroscience called a New Calm. About

(51:42):
New Calm, The four's written by a nuclear reactor of energy,
Tony Robbins and the Pressure written by a monk, both
using the same product to derive benefit. That's fascinating to me.
I knew what we could do having witnessed, you know,
eleven twelve years of incredible science taking everybody to theta.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, think about this.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
We perfected software that we put music over. And the
software is like one gigabyte. A song is like five megabytes.
We're delivering three hundred to six hundred times the size.
Because your brain can't change its state through a song.
It can change your emotion, but even then it kind
of goes up and goes down and it gets bored quickly.

(52:28):
This isn't about music. This is about delivering signals. Music's
just for you for your experience. You can't hear what
we're doing. It's inaudible to the human ear. You can't
hear the physics. So knowing this platform, can I looked
at doctor hollisid Doc. If we can take everybody's brain
to four herds? Can we take them to zero point
five hurts and put them into deep sleep? Yes? Can

(52:51):
we take them to seven point eight three herts the
creative zone? Yes? Can we take them to eighteen point
four herts the focus zone. Yes, can we take him
all the way up to forty one hertz high intensity
mistake free gamma. Yes, you see, Blake was a gift
to humanity. There's not a lot of people that has

(53:12):
been nineteen years trying to figure something out to help
all of us. He was the smartest human that I know.
But he also had Aspergers. So one thing that anyone
who knows somebody with aspergers one of the characteristics is
typical of them is once they grab a hold of
your pant leg, they never let go to solve the problem.

(53:35):
They're in lives in nineteen years of invention, Wow, and
working with Blake, I never heard no ever, but I
never knew when, and I never knew how. I never
knew when, I never knew how.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I just knew. It's kind of like asking Elon if
we can fly, if we can live on Mars? Yes, yes, Yes.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Twenty eighteen, we launched powernapp same platform as Rescue. We're
taking you to four hertz that healing zone were holding
you there? Yeah, twenty twenty one on a single day,
November fifteenth. This is amazing to me. We launched three
products on a single day, so here we are at
this point, we're thirty one year practicing neuroscience company. Okay,

(54:21):
we go from two products to five products in a
single day. The products we launched was Focus, Ignite in
Deep Sleep Wow. A year later we launched our sixth
and final product. So today we have six products on
one single mobile app that manage all five categories of

(54:44):
your brain. So today, invariably and in future generations to come,
you could literally at your kitchen table do a little experiment.
Put your caffeine, put your Red Bull, put your mouse
or energy, put your wine, put your beer, put your
recreational drugs, put your anti anxieties, your antidepressants, you're sleeping pills,
and put it on one side of the table, and
then put new call mobile app in a headphone. We

(55:06):
don't need it any that stuff anymore because you can
literally direct the outcome that you want by selecting the
product you want. Focus takes you to eighteen point four hurts.
Rescue takes you to four hurts. Deep Sleep takes you
to zero point five hurts. So this is how I've
been living for many years. It is fascinating. I'm fifty
six years old. I run a global neuroscience company. We

(55:29):
serve the FBI, we serve pilots, We're in a hundred countries.
I've got a great team. I also have a family.
Been together with my wife for thirty two years. We
have three daughters, twenty three, twenty and eighteen.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
I have a lot of.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Reasons to be stressed. I have a lot of reasons
to be distracted. You'll never see either of them. I
have not burnt a calorie on stress and fear and
anticipatory anxiety and worry in more than a decade. I
wouldn't even know what it feels like. I get to
be present in the moment without judgment. I get to
feel gratitude, enjoy I get to have mental acuity that

(56:02):
you noticed with Rescue. Every day, I operate like a cyborg.
I don't get distracted. If I start to feel like, hey,
I'm starting to think about what's for dinner and it's
one twenty six in the afternoon, I'll put headphones on
and put focus on, and within a couple of minutes
and I'm eighteen point four hurtz and I'm in the zone,
so high level of command and control of what I

(56:24):
want to do, how I want to think. I don't
get sabotaged. Sure I get angry. Sure there's lack of justice.
Sure I have to fight with people once in a while,
and I don't get to the place where you know,
back in the day before Newcomb, my fight instinct was
to come to your house, throw, punch you, and kill you.

(56:44):
That was my response, I will kill you. Oh, I
don't have that response anymore. Physical he isn't top of
the food chain anymore. I pay attention, I listen to
the stress, and I listen to the person, and I stop.
And the first thing I think about, Kenn is Okay,
what is motivating them to comm at me like this?

(57:07):
Let me figure this out. That's so I get to
think like a monk and act like a capitalist. That's
my life, and I use this technology to deliver what
I want. So we are in a current state of crisis,
and there's the stress levels of the highest it's ever been,
in our anxiety levels, the highest ever been in our
sense of isolation and confusion. We literally have a tool

(57:30):
that says, no, I am going to be in control
of what I want to think about today, and I'm
going to command my emotional, physical, mental health.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
My wife is on hair and she has a question.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yes, I see, Okay, I may have missed this, but
it is appropriate for children to you. So the first
question you want to ask yourself, Jill, is are children humans?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
If the answer is yes, and I suspect it is,
here's the beauty of newcomb. We can do no harm.
We've been doing newcomb in utero. We've got some crazy people.
We had one dude who said, listen, I think were
the first family in history where we conceived on newcomb
every day during dignancy. My wife did newcomb during the birth.

(58:22):
It was at home of the midwife, no drugs on newcomb,
and I recorded the birth. And our children have used
newcomb every single day.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
So, oh, my god.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
For an infant and you know, a toddler getting a
headphone on them, it's not going to work.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
However, Yeah, sorry, you said we conceived us, and they.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Said, do you want to see the video of the birth?
I was like, no, some things.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Are better than right, no kidding, my god.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
In the crib. The two things one is your child beats,
they're coliquy, having troubled digestion whatever. With a speaker in
the crib, you're gonna see a baby go into a
trance within seconds. It's insane. Wow done Wow. At night

(59:13):
in bedroom, all the children on earth should have deep sleep,
playing with a speaker in your bedroom. All of our
products demand a headphone because your brain doesn't want to
be managed, and when you put a headphone on, there's
no escape route except for deep sleep. It took us
nine years to invent the physics of deep sleep because
we didn't want you'd have to wear a headphone to

(59:34):
bet We see the lack of compliance with SEPAP. We're
not interested, so we built it for a speaker, which
is called an isochronic waveform. That's how we trick your brain.
So with a speaker in your bedroom, you play deep
sleep and it doesn't matter. That's the cool thing about this.
We're not seeking information from you. This isn't bile feedback.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
So let me ask you a question because and I
I never say I'm sorry for interrupting, by the way,
because I intentionally did that shit. So I think that
everything you're talking about is it's I mean, it's life changing,

(01:00:16):
but I you know there's and right now we have
approximately sixteen hundred and fifty four people watching us live
right now. I do a lot with veterans, and I
know a lot of veterans, and in the US alone,

(01:00:37):
we've all heard it. We have the twenty two suicides
per day, which is just heartbreaking, and I feel like
it's not necessary. And Pam Aubrey, who's a really, really
dear friend of mine, she does a lot of work
with homeless people, and she said, I would love to

(01:00:58):
know what would happen if a facility had guests using
your technology every night? Do you feel like it could
And it's almost a rhetorical question, because if you said no,
it's not going to help, I'd probably end the interview
right now. But I mean, what kind of an impact

(01:01:20):
do you feel this could have on number one, the
veterans and the humongous suicide problem we have, and number
two with the homeless helping them change their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
I already know the outcome for veterans because for fourteen
years we've been serving the veteran community. And remember this
was invented to serve complex trauma trauma comorbid with addiction.
So the VA we work with every day. Mission twenty
two a nonprofit organization in Oregon, and obviously the twenty
two has derived from the North SUSSA. It's increased significantly

(01:01:54):
from there. Ken that was a couple year's dated number.
But you know the military is not all that for
coming of that data. Yeah, Operation Red Wings now the
National Foundation of Integrated Medicine. We've done a lot of
acute suicide intervention and this is fascinating to me. How
do we do that? A doctor will literally call me
and say, Hey, I've got a problem. I got someone

(01:02:16):
who's on suicide watch. I need you to activate new
call for them. And we do, and we keep it
really simple. Put this on tonight, do rescue right now,
and do deep sleep tonight. By virtual of giving one
person one good night's sleep, you stop all the chaos,
You stop the build up of getting to that place
of that bleak outcome where you're so disgusted with yourself,

(01:02:39):
your life and everything and you're just so fatigued, and
you're just so tired of living like this, you're ready
to take your life. One good night's sleep changes that
whole paradigm and you begin the healing journey. So for
the veteran community, it's been incredible and it's not easy,
and you're right, you know, kids who go in to

(01:03:00):
the military, they don't know what they're going to give up.
They don't know that their life, their brain, their physiology,
their emotions, their mental health, their physical health will be
forever compromised unless we help them. And when they leave.
Our military does an exceptional job of taking care of
active military to protect us. They don't do an exceptional
job after they've served, taken care of them. Know this,

(01:03:22):
and it's atrocious. So this technology, this is where it
was born out of. We've donated millions of dollars, even
when we weren't a profitable enterprise. We donated millions of
dollars to several different areas, and the veterans were first
and foremost. Wow, we will always take care of the
veteran community. We also have done this work with stage

(01:03:43):
four cancer, millions of dollars, five universities in Kenya. We
can't solve hunger issues, but we can solve your stress issues.
And then with the Ukraine War, we immediately went to
work in Ukraine. So for this place in the trunks,
in fact, I don't know if you're paid attention, but
with the fires around January eighth, I called Tony and
said Antoni. I know you lost your home years ago,

(01:04:05):
and it's breaking my heart because a lot of my
friends are displaced and they're traumatized, trust worked in insidious ways,
and you know this ken, and they're in survival mode
and they're being displaced and they're fearful for their home,
and they're in this high cortisol active mode. But their
brain physiology is changing every day and they don't know it,

(01:04:26):
but for years they're going to suffer the consequence. So
Tony and I donated five hundred thousand annual licenses of
New Calm, which, if it was fully active, be a
three hundred million dollar donation. We don't have la fire
relief than Tony Robbins. So the veteran community, here's how
we help. We simply solve your stress. We put the

(01:04:49):
brakes to your foot on the accelerator at all times.
That's all doing. That's all we're doing. But over time,
remember oxygen and prefunnel cortex. Okay, the traumatized brain is stuck.
The blood flow of the hippocampus has been diminished, the
blood flow of the prefrontal cortex has been diminished. They

(01:05:09):
are stuck in a memory pattern and that memory elicits
that same physiological fear response. So you can imagine living
like that is awful, and sleeping like that you don't
get any rest. But either New CAM isn't a miracle.
It doesn't say, hey, we're gonna come solve your brain
or we're gonna do it right here. No, it's a
successive use of rescue in deep sleep. The more you

(01:05:33):
oxygenate here, the more you downregulate the fear response, the
more you create new what's called neuronal coherence, new pathways,
and over time, can we don't erase your memory. This
isn't like total recall on Ernold Swarzenegger. We separate the
emotional component from the memory itself. I mean, are you

(01:05:56):
killing me? That's what this does. By downray your stress
response and allowing you the capability as a traumatized recipient
of chaos in your brain with a physiological change to
your brain and your brain chemistry, we simply say we
don't care. We're going to solve your stress in the

(01:06:16):
mid brain. We're going to give you the opportunity to
meditate like a monk, and every day you do this
is a day you heal. So homelessness, same thing. A
lot of homelessness is derived from fundamental illness or trauma,
and at some point they lose all their breaks, and
they lose their home, and they lose their dignity, and

(01:06:39):
they lose a lot of things. So if we could
give the gift of saying, hey, it's okay. Where you're
at is okay. You're human, you're part of who we are.
We're all a fabric of this one species. We're here
to help you. And how would you like to simply
pause a button on all the stress and chaos between

(01:06:59):
your ears, even if it's for thirty minutes. Then at night,
how would you like to sleep? We wake up actually
feeling rested and being able to take on your day
and do things as opposed to be waking up and
running to solve the problems from yesterday. So, yes, it
would be amazing for that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
I want to I had a conversation Patricia Geigitch, who's
right there. She's a very very very famous artist. Her
her artwork has hung in the Vatican and the Louver
and she's amazing, amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Amazing, Mom, Dowie, that's increating.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
One of my dearest friends in the world. I told
her about this the other night. She put it on
her calendar that I was interviewing you because she wanted
to listen in and look at what she wrote. She's
she's all about it, and so you know. And I've
got Sergeant Tom on here too. That's a that around.

(01:08:00):
I want to pop his comment comments as well. There
are a couple of comments that I want to want
to ask you about. First off, Tom, stick around because
there is a way for you to get this and
we're going to talk about that here in a second.
And this is for anybody by the way watching. Jim
has set up a special code for me and anybody

(01:08:24):
following me that you can you can get a nice
little discount on it. And it's not expensive anyway. Now,
it's not as expensive as living in fear and without sleep,
I can tell you that. But the there was. My
wife asked a question earlier that I want to ask
you about the doctor. Was he able to affect his

(01:08:47):
cancer with this considering the possibility of manipulation of theta.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Awesome, that's an amazing question. Of course. He was so Blake,
self regulated, self medicated. Blake was filled with gizmos and gadgets.
He had a fitty two thousand dollars cold fusion laser
developed for him in Germany. We did a regularly, we
did a regular therapy and and you know, I've got
four disks taken out of my spine and all these problems.
So he he, he helped put me back together like

(01:09:12):
the six million dollar man without reconstructured surgery. Blake was poisoned.
He was poisoned by chemotherapy. Okay, he gave him too
much chemo therapy and poisoned his entire being. But yes,
newcomb kept him alive a lot longer through his cancer
he had. Colorectal cancer was an emotional component of someone

(01:09:34):
trying to hold on too tight, someone trying to control things,
and obviously with Aspergers the necessity to be in some
type of control is really important. So yeah, he probably
lived three years longer than his expectancy would have been
without being able to downregulate his stress with newcomb. That

(01:09:54):
brings up something really fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Uh, before you before you get there, can we tell
everybody how to get this because people are asking, Yes,
it's it's simple, it's how it's complicated. No, it's not.
It's very simple.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
It's the complication. Of Newcom is fascinating. You'll never You'll
never get to the end. It's like so many layers
of awesomeness. Our path is no longer to share with
you how smart we are. Our path is no longer
to share with you how it works. You know why
because you'll never figure it out, so why keep trying.
Most people don't know how microwave works. They just say

(01:10:32):
it conveniently heats up my food. You don't need to
know how newcome works. It conveniently changes your state of
mind and helps you feel better when you're stressed. So
you go to newcom dot com and you c a
LM dot com. When you go to the site, you'll
see we offer a seven day free trial, okay, and
on that free trial you get access to all six
products Rescue powern app our Data, and Healing Deep Sleep.

(01:10:59):
You can imagine it's for sleep. Flow state is seven
point eight three hurts and is for creativity and for
you artists like Patricia, that would be an amazing product
for you authors, musicians, artists. It liberates your your blocks,
your negative obstacles, the negative patterning in our thinking is amazing.

(01:11:22):
Focus is for focus and ignite is for high intensity,
peak performance. So there are six products in the free trial.
You get the Trimol. Then you can select monthly or
annual subscriptions. Fifty cents a day, a dollar a day,
a dollar sixty seven a day. Okay, Now think about
three and a half years ago. This is a six

(01:11:43):
thousand dollars complicated, four component regulated FDA medical device, and
today fifty cents a day through mobile apps. So have
we made it affordable? Yes? Have we made it easy? Yes?
Do you have a mobile device? Yes? Can you press start? Yes?
Do you have ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Can you put the headphone over your ears? Yes? Do
you have an imask? Yes? We're good to go. So
go to newcom dot com when you check out. We
built a code for ken. The code is breakthrough.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
It's that was pretty good. Drum roll. Actually, breakthrough is
very just put in the word. It's not case sensitive.
So just put in breakthrough and you get what's the discount?

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Fifteen percent discount one five?

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Okay for how long? Though?

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
It gets better than that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
It's a limited time, right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Yeah, your life expectancy. You put that code in, it
tracks you for life every every year. It doesn't matter
what subscription. We have a mastermind. That's three thousand, five
hundred dollars. Okay, anything you do, it tracks it and
you get a fifteen percent discount every month or every

(01:13:02):
year for the rest of your life. And we have
thousands of people that have been with us for a decade.
We know once you start living with stress in the
rear view mirror, you don't really want to go back. Okay,
so yet, thanks to Ken because he's the one who
strong armed me before this interview, said hey, I said,

(01:13:23):
wait a minute, yeah, wait a second.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
We got to give the listener something, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
So break through fift off any subscription for the rest
of your life.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Yeah, listen, this is just a and you guys have
already heard me. Some of you maybe not, because we
have two thousand people watching now. You know. I use
this every single day of my life. My wife has it.
She keeps saying she doesn't have the time to use
and I'm like, you need to use it. It'll give

(01:13:57):
you more time, I'm telling you. And she's going to
art today, right, Jill say yes. In the comments, Jill
so So said said, wow, I think there's a there's
a I don't know if she means wow for me.
Calling her out to the CEO, or but I think

(01:14:18):
it means.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Wow, look out when you come home.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Yeah, so, uh, she'll be here at the office soon.
But but you know, and Tom Gin says, thank you.
I use this every single day of my life, and
and quite honestly, I looked forward to using it. I
look forward to you. It's weird. It's it's like a

(01:14:43):
Popeye's chicken sandwich or something I don't know. I literally
look forward to You're like, how did you just compare
us to Popeye's chicken sandwich, A.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Spicy chicken sandwich. I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
See he knows.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Interject one more thing, Please give yourself twenty minutes or
thirty minutes. Okay, let's do the math. Thirty minutes is
one forty eighth of one day. Twenty minutes is one
seventy second of one day. There's something that I know
that you know inherently but you may not know. You
know quantitatively. We're all going to die from stress. We

(01:15:24):
are all going to die from stress, unless we're lucky
enough to die in an accident. But the rest of
us will die from stress. Now, it's not going to
say I'm a death certificate. Jim died of stress. No,
Jim died of cardiovascun disease or cancer, or it'll Bollan
syndrome or also of clitis caused by stress. Just because

(01:15:46):
we can't see it and the brain is kind of
challenged with intangibles. If we can't touch it, feel it,
smell and taste it, is it real? Of course it's real,
and it shows itself in your distracted thing, your agitation,
your impatience, and in your sleep. But if you give
yourself twenty or thirty minutes every day to do rescue,

(01:16:07):
which is immersive, you lay down, safe place, headphone, imask.
You must have an eyemask. We can't take you to
THETA and heal you with your eyes open because we're
too stimulated by light. And you press rescue and the
experience is brilliant. It's fascinating. Most of us fall in
and out of sleep. We don't mean to, but we do.

(01:16:28):
But when you get up, this is what's important. You
don't feel lethargic. It's not like you took a nap
on a Saturday and you wake up like Oscar the
Grouch something. Now she's not feeling completely energized. Your mental acuity,
is point is just incredible. But furthermore, all the little
things that were bothering you don't exist anymore. You literally

(01:16:50):
had the gift in twenty or thirty minutes of resolving
all your stress in your midbrain and coming back for
your second day. There's a gentleman in India, says Jim
Newcom is double my life. And I'm thinking, I was like, wow,
that's impressive. What do you mean? He said, Well, I
go about my day. I'm the CEO of a company,
and in the afternoon I do rescue. And now I
have a second day because I have the same energy

(01:17:11):
I had as I started a day, and I'm getting
two days and one. And I said, I love that.
So don't be alarmed, and don't think, oh I got
my to do list is way too big and I
can't do it, because you can. And furthermore, if you
don't take care of yourself, there's one thing, it's an
immutable law of being human. If you don't manage your stress,
your stress is going to manage you. So take care

(01:17:33):
of yourself. So true, take care of yourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
And listen, you guys, this is not a sales pitch.
It is the truth and I use it every day.
It's it's unbelievable. I've told my wife that, I'm like,
you don't understand, like you've got to experience it, and
once you do, like really experience twenty thirty minutes, it's
it's life changing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
It's life change, not just us using it. Some of
the most you know, stressful occupations in the world. I'll
show you, guys, something you'll never see again. We built
a track and a whole product expressly for the United
States FBI Housage Rescue Team. You see that, God, fifty
six operators have this on their phone. You'll never see it.

(01:18:19):
Pretty cool, huh. So what happened? They called us up, said, hey,
can you activate our Gama brainwave function? So in a
high intensity situation, we're on point. We don't make any mistakes.
So we built all these files and built a separate product.
It's all confidential. They have the secret access code. Of course,
as the CEO. I have it too, but I don't
listen to it because it's so intense. It makes me

(01:18:41):
want to vomit. And I'm a pretty intense guy. But
I'm like, I can't listen to it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Wow, so amazing we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Things like that, trust me, we can help all of us.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Wow, that's incredible. So finally learning that lesson at almost fifty. Yeah, yeah,
it's so. It's so incredible. Jim, You're an incredible human.
I'm so grateful that Mark introduced us. Mark Victor Hanson,
if you ever see this, thank you, and you know

(01:19:15):
we'll both be talking to him. So is there anything
else you'd like to share with everybody before we wrap
this up?

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Yes? I want to share Pamela's comment finally learning that
lesson at almost fifty, Well, we're happy you're learning it
now instead of when you're almost eighty. Okay, So now
you've got thirty years of being patient, present in the moment,
without judgment. You'll have access to your kids and your
family and the people in your life and in your world.
Think back in our lives, how many times we weren't

(01:19:43):
present and we miss those opportunities, and it hurts our
heart when we think about it. When you can relax
that stress response and get good sleep, you're liberated to
be the best you and you deserve this, So take
care of yourselves. We worked hard to bring this to you,
and we worked hard to make this easy and on
a mobile app with headphones. It can't get much easier.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
I mean when you and so, when you and I
first talked, I thought, why is Mark referring me to
some little app company? Like this is crazy? What is
going on? Then? And then you and I talked, and oh,
my gosh, this is the mega, mega, multi multi million
dollar air organization. You guys have it going on. And

(01:20:29):
you said it. I don't know if anybody heard it,
but I'll repeat it. It's the only patented technology in
this space. You guys have the patent on this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
In the world. We have the only patent in the
world for balancing the autonomic nervous system of a human being.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
And then the second patent is for method us to
elicit a state change in a human brain. We've done it.
We're a science company delivering our science through a mobile app.
We're not a mobile app company. This isn't a game,
it's not a gimmick. It's not a gizmo. That's why
we did the free trial Ken because I can tell
you until I'm bloom the face the power of a

(01:21:07):
sort of healing and fate of brainway function. What does
that mean? Just put it on your ears and try it.
Then you'll know what we mean. It's amazing be there
for the ones who need you and love you the most,
and they need you all the time. Don't forget that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
That's right. Thank you, Jim. And just for the record,
I think Jim and I are going to be doing
a lot more stuff, so I really hope so because
this I I'm a I'm a I'm a customer. I
believe in it. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
So you can see how much we haven't in common.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
I know. First Pam says, even with all the self
care I've tried to do, it never occurred to me
how paramount it was until about the last year. Thank
you again, and Looksha just put it out there. I
love that new calm as a verb. I love that.

(01:22:06):
That's freaking awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
So all right, well listen this opportunity. Thank you to
everybody listening. It's a blessing and it's an opportunity for
us to share the world's lacking too much good news
and good things and we're bringing it. And Amen here
to help and we're here to serve.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Amen twenty one hundred well are watching live right now
and I'm very grateful for each and every one of you,
so Jim, thank you so much. I appreciate you coming
on and being such a great You're so awesome man.
Your energy is amazing. So thank you. Thank you to everyone,
and we will see you later. Thanks so much. Stay

(01:22:51):
with me by the way, Jim, don't hang up. We'll
see you guys later

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