Episode 593 - Interview with Nick Freitas!

Nick joined the military after high school, eventually serving two combat tours in Iraq as a member of the Army Special Forces (Green Berets). He is a member of the Virginia General Assembly serving in the House of Delegates, where he has been known for his oratory and floor debates, with several speeches going viral on social media. Nick is regularly featured on Fox News and OAN, as well as prominent podcasts and shows such as Shawn Ryan Show, Iced Coffee Hour, TimCast, and many others. Hosting popular shows such as Making the Argument and The Why Minutes, Nick has amassed a social media following of over 3.3 million followers. Averaging over 2 million views per day, Nick’s audience regularly tunes in to discuss politics, free market economics, culture, masculinity, marriage, family, and more. Nick lives in Virginia with his wife and co-host Tina, and they are the proud parents of their children, Lilly, Luke, and Ally.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, good morning, and welcome to break Through Walls. I'm Kenlzen.
I'm your host, and today, ladies and gentlemen, I have
a real life superhero on the show. The guy's name
is I already seemed shaking his head. His name is Nick,
and I you know what I'm I'm almost positive it's

(00:22):
free freed Us is how you say his last name.
If I got it wrong, he's way bigger than me,
he's probably gonna hurt me. So just stay with us,
and I just do me a favor and share this
thing out to everybody that you know. Nick is amazing.
He's he's in a government position in the state of Virginia.

(00:44):
We're gonna talk about that is military experience and background.
We're gonna talk about a lot of things. So do
me a favor, share this out, and let's get a
bunch of people on here to listen to Nick's story.
So stay with us. Here we go. All right, we

(01:29):
are back. Let me go ahead and bring Nick onto
the show. Nick, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Hey, thanks ing me again.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Did I get your last name right close enough?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
You know? I was t spe so my last name
is pronounced fradas. But I've heard freatus fredas free. I
mean I used to tell people I will respond. My
drill sergeant taught me to respond to anything remotely close.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I was like, so, I'm going through I'm watching a
bunch of your shows on YouTube. You're pot podcast by
the way, congratulations man, you have a huge following on YouTube.
That's amazing. But you know, I'm like, he doesn't say
his name in the beginning of any of his shows. Crap.
And then I forgot to ask you before we started

(02:18):
the show.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
No worries.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, So so, Nick, you know I've I've done this now,
I guess about six years. And I started this to
help myself have a breakthrough in life and and it's worked.
So you know, I want you to start, if you
don't mind, to share with everybody where it all started

(02:41):
for you, where you were born and raised and you
know all of that fun stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Sure, well, I guess the kind of the life story
in you know three minutes or so is born and
raised in actually Chico, California, And I would spend this
summers with my dad in southern California, done in Chino,
and then the school year with my mom in Chico.
You know, graduated from high school, and two weeks later
I was I was off to Infantry Basic training at
Fort Benning, Georgia. Went through basic training Airborne school, then

(03:08):
went to the eighty second Airborne. About eleven months after
I grade graduated high school, I married my high school sweetheart, Tina,
so we've been married for twenty six years now. Originally
wasn't sure along I was going to stand in the
military again. Like I said, I was in the eighty
second Airborne, had an opportunity to go some pretty cool schools,
you know, like Ranger, Sniper, some other things like that.
And then I was going to re enlist to go

(03:28):
to Kosovo, and my sergeant major said, we're not letting
you go one battalion over because they were frustrated that
my battalion had spent this money to have you go
to these schools. And I was going to go one
battalion over to go to Kosovo, and so I was
going to get out of the military. And then my
wife said, we both talked about it. We said, look,
let's re enlist one more time. You can kind of
pick where you want to go. And so we re
enlisted to go to Hawaii and three months after we

(03:51):
got there, nine to eleven happened, and I looked at
my wife, I said, well, I know what I'm doing now.
So I volunteered for Army Special Forces kind of better
known as Green Beret is, did a couple of combat
tours over in Iraq, and then I got out at
eleven years, in part because I was I was definitely
getting frustrated with respect to how the war was being conducted.

(04:11):
I didn't claim to be some you know, massive foreign
policy expert, but I didn't know there was something wrong
with the way we were fighting a war on which
it looked like we weren't interested in winning as much
as we were were just being the perpetually. And so
I got out, and I decided that I was going
to work in a field that you know, I had
to pay the bills, right, So I did some defense
contracting work, but I wanted to get involved in politics

(04:35):
in part to hopefully inform on the foreign policy side
of it. And I started geting involved in a local committee,
started you know, helping out other candidates, got asked to
run for office. Eventually ran for the House of Delegates
and I've been there for the last ten years. I
just announced my retirement, and part of that was because,
you know, during that process, I really became convinced that

(04:56):
while the political realm is an incredibly important fight in
one that we have to be constantly engaged with, there
are deeper cultural issues that explain a lot of the
problems that we have going on in politics right now.
And I'm a big I'm a huge believer that the
way that we're going to actually save our country is
by first saving the family and kind of restoring this
idea of what what does a good family structure look like,

(05:16):
What does genuine masculinity look like, femininity look like, what
is it like? You know, we we've homeschooled our kids,
and so I'm a big advocate on parents being more
involved in their child's education, regardless of how they do it.
So that's kind of like from you know, I have
three children. My oldest is, My oldest daughters twenty two
now married, My son is now off in infantry basic
training himself, and then my youngest daughter has graduated high

(05:38):
school as well. So we've we've kind of gone through
this journey and we talk a lot on our social
media platforms, whether it's making the argument or some of
the other stuff we do about culture, society, theology, politics,
with all of it based on this idea on how
do we how do we address some of these underlying
cultural issues in order to again I think save the country.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
And everybody watching make sure you go to at least
YouTube and I'll put the links in the show notes
and everything to all of your social media. But we
go to YouTube and subscribe and making the argument. And
I got you guys are funny, man, because and I
love the way your wife pushes back. My wife's like

(06:19):
that too, and it's like, you know, so it's a
great show. You guys do a great job. So yeah,
so so talking a little bit about you know, the
political So I'm very you know, I told you before
we got started that I was swatted. They they a
buddy of mine, Steve loves Ammo, has a huge account

(06:42):
on x and he got swatted, and Gunther Eagleman got swatted,
and all all of these people that are friends of
mine got get swatted, and I'm like, what in the
hell's going on? So I sit here one day at
the day after Steve got swatted, and I was I
just got pissed off, and I'm all right, you know what,
I'm making a video. It ticked them off, dude, So

(07:07):
that night I started getting pizza deliveries. It was crazy.
But anyway, you know, we have a and I want
your opinion on this, we have a two party system
in this country in theory. That's Democrats and Republicans. And
I said the other day, I don't think we do anymore.

(07:28):
I think we have a uniparty that is Communists, and
we have America first. And I think that and what
you just said, I think that the America first part
of it is the God centered family, you know, love
of country and all of that stuff. Is that what
you're talking about with the family unit bringing God into it?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh, I mean I think that's an essential part of it.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
And people will fight me on that, and obviously you
can bring up examples of peaceeople that have lived very
productive lives that you know, are an atheist or agnostic
or whatnot. But no, if someone's asking me what I
believe has worked and what I've observed to work and
what I think is also true, then yeah, my Christian
faith is actually it's a core component of that. I
think the other the frustrating thing that I see within

(08:18):
politics is there there is a there is an element
of status quo, and you will find people on both
sides of the aisle that are quite comfortable with the
status quo. And regardless of who's in power, they get
their budget amendments passed and they get their bills passed
for the most part, and they don't rock the boat
and they don't shake it. And some of them do.
I don't think because there's some sort of I think

(08:39):
I think some people do genuinely despise the United States,
they despise their founding principles, they want to fundamentally change it.
And I think other people are just quite frankly naive.
So I don't think that it's everybody's this super villain character, right,
because it's very easy to fall into. I mean, look
ten years in the legislature, and it's very easy to

(09:01):
fall into this idea that, well, you know, you got
to compromise to get things done, which is true on
some level. The question is is what is your threshold
for compromise? Are you willing? Are you willing to compromise
on fundamental principles in order to get your little bill passed?
Because you think it'll get you, help get you reelected.
And I've just watched too many times as I've seen

(09:23):
Republicans in deep red districts right, a lot of times
we're slamming the guys in purple districts. Can I just say,
as frustrated as I get, sometimes I at least understand
the motivation of someone from a purple district. Someone's going
to have to explain to me how it is somebody
can be in a district where they know they're going
to win their election every single time, and they're the

(09:45):
ones voting for bigger government, they're the ones voting for tech,
they're the ones that, oh, we don't want to rock
the vote on guns or on life or on regulatory policy.
Like I'm like, look, I got very very little use
for somebody in a safe district that's not wanting to
do anything. And that goes to the point your point
before of like, Okay, do we really have Republicans or
Democrats or do we really have people dedicated to a
particular system that they have figured out and benefit as

(10:08):
a result from it. And I think that I think
that makes up a huge chunk of you know, people
in political office because it's the easiest, it seems to
make sense. But ultimately we're dealing in a situation right
now where you could go back maybe sixty or seventy years,
maybe more of that, and find a lot more common
ground between left and right on some of these issues.

(10:30):
We're now dealing with a worldview when you look at
critical theory right and out of critical theory you get against.
It's somewhat neo Marxists, which people always flip out about
that term, like you're accusing everyone want to be in
a communist It's like, no, it's just they have adopted
a worldview, whether they recognize it or not, they have
adopted a worldview that is heavily influenced by Marxism. It's

(10:50):
just that Marx wasn't their teacher, right, Herbert Marcusa was,
or Michelle whu Co was, or Jean Paul Sartrell was.
But ultimately it's the same thing. What people need to
understand is that that worldview is diametrically opposed to the
worldview that made America possible and this idea that we
can just you know, peacefully coexist. No, if someone wants

(11:12):
to attain political power for the purpose of fundamentally changing
your nation. You're either going to defeat that ideology or
you're going to be ruled by it. But this idea
that we can arrive at some sort of negotiated settlement,
I don't think that's I don't think that makes a
lot of sense. And I think history bears out that
it doesn't work out very well.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I see that again. Man, let's just go there. So
in twenty twenty, there was a lot of stuff happening
that just didn't seem right, didn't feel right to a
lot of people. I saw the I'm sure you saw
the Dan Bongino in Cash Patel interview yesterday, you know,

(11:57):
still and they both sat there and said Epstein killed
himself And I'm like, but did he?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah? Yeah, I just take right, I know.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
But you know, and you look at the election fraud
and interference and all of the things that happened that
you know, most of us won't. Man, something just feels off,
like is this And I realized that you're in the
Virginia State legislature, But did any of this stuff come
up that you know back then, Like, hey, what is

(12:31):
going on with the elections here? Oh?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, no? We So I ran for Congress in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Right, so right, oh geez there talking about I.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Ran for Congress against Abigail Spanberger, who's currently running for
governor of Virginia. Wow, And we were We knew that
there was going to be a ton of early voting
because the Democrats changed. In fact, they changed in a
way that a Virginia judge came back later and said, yeah,
you shouldn't have done it that way, but too late, right,
So they made a much of change. They made a
much of changes in a special session, and they just

(13:02):
drastically altered voting laws in Virginia. And so on election
night we were ahead, but we knew we were going
to do better on people voting that day versus early voting,
and so we had a certain number that we wanted
to hit, which we figured, if we can hit this number,
we win. And then all of a sudden, it's like
we go through and we're winning on election night, and

(13:22):
we're winning the next morning, and you know, a thumb
drive shows up in Henrico County, which is the bluest
county in the district, and it had fifteen thousand votes
that they had mis labeled. Oh my god, Now We
investigated this, right, we investigated this, and the voter numbers
that were the voter numbers, voter d numbers that were
on the thumb drive did match up with actual voters.
The problem was is that we're looking at this going

(13:43):
you don't think that this is a chain of custody issue.
You don't think that this is an issue where you
could have fifteen thousand votes mislabeled on a thumb drive
and then all of a sudden, that's enough to flip
an election, like regardless of who actually won. Right, let's
assume she actually won, there's still a problem with that.
And the thing was is that if you even brought
up something like that where it's like, come on, come on, right, right,

(14:08):
they're like, Oh, you're just you're blowing this out of proportion.
This isn't a big deal. I finally asked a member
of the press. I said, I got a question for you.
Since you want to say I'm such a bad guy.
You want to say Trumps such a bad guy for
questioning obviously shady things that were going on. Okay, here's
my question, ma'am. If on election night, Abigail Spanberger had
been kicking my butt and then a thumb drive showed

(14:31):
up magically in the reddest county in the district that
had been mislabeled, and all of a sudden, her lead
completely eroded and I won. Yeah, right at the same
time that we just changed all of these voter laws
where people were getting absentee ballance sent out in their
name with how having requested them, Like, you wouldn't have

(14:53):
any question, She goes, well, yeah, that would be. That
would be I get what you're saying. I'm like, you know,
you say that right here in a private conversation with me.
You say that you know what you won't do go
back and report it.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's right, I said.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's why I don't trust you anymore, and that's why
I don't care about your insults anymore. Call me whatever
you want, right, Like, you've demonstrated a level of intellectual
dishonesty in these areas. And here's the part that I
think people need to understand, Because there are some people
that want to chalk everything up to voter fraud. I
don't buy that for a second. I think voter fraud
has become a significantly bigger problem than it's ever been before,

(15:27):
But it doesn't account for everything that's going on. What
twenty twenty revealed to us, and what doge is revealed
to us, is the whole Antonio Graham sheet, you know,
march through the institutions, take over the culturally shaping institutions.
They have done an excellent job of infiltrating every single
institution that we would have considered maybe somewhat ideological neutral,

(15:50):
ideologically neutral, and have taken that over.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Well.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, So when you are the predominant worldview within academia,
when you're the predominant worldview within your public school system,
when you're the predominant worldview with an arts and entertainment
in Hollywood, when you're the predominant worldview within the massive
federal bureaucracy which hands out funds left and right to
you know, ideologically align in geos and nonprofits right, when
you control all of those things, or you have effective

(16:15):
ideological capture, which is to say, eighty percent of more
of these institutions, you know, regurgitate what you do and
are actively working on your bath, you can accomplish quite
a bit. And that's what I think twenty twenty revealed
is that all of a sudden, when a parent had
a video into what was going on in the classroom.
It was like, you're doing what you're teaching what to
my child, when all of a sudden, all of a sudden,

(16:38):
the nice tolerant person is advocating for you to have
your kids taken away because you don't want to give
your four year old and experimental vaccine. Right all of
a sudden, It's like, whoa, whoa. We had people telling
us you were this crazy, but this has been your
first opportunity to not only manifest it, but to manifest
it in such a way where you had the power
to destroy people who disagreed with you. And what we

(17:01):
found out is, oh, you'll use it. And so that
woke a lot of people up. But then the next
thing that we found out through doge was not only
were things like the not only was the you know
where a lot of these like you know campaigns right
like especially like the trans stuff. Not only was that
not a grassroots ever, that was a top down thing

(17:21):
that was being pushed on us. They were using our
tax dollars to fund their ideology at our expense yep.
And so that's the biggest thing that I think came
out of twenty twenty was not just issues around shady
things going on with voting. It was the It was
people finally waking up and realizing just how much ideological
capture had taken place along all of our culturally shaping institutions.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
So there's my buddy Sarraje out in California.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
So so.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
If you were Dan Bongino right now sitting here and
I was interviewing Dan, I would say, Okay, I get
all that, and I think most of us understand there's
a lot of crap that's gone on, like in your
home state of California. You know, they're like a parent

(18:18):
can lose their child if the child wants to identify
as something else and they don't back it, Like that's insane,
Like how anyway? So why are I mean, we know
that there's these people that have done all of this
nefarious stuff. There's a guy, I forget his name off
the top of my head, but he's like this data

(18:41):
weirdo geek PhD guy. He has all the evidence, like
all of it, he knows, he's shown it, and there's
no arrests, there's nobody getting and you know, you know
that's where I was gone.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Right, here's what I'll say. I Look, let me put
it this way. If Cash Ptel and Dan Bogino aren't
arresting people yet, I'm actually I'm willing to give them
the benefit of the doubt, right, Like, I realized that
they've been in these positions for a relatively short period
of time part of what's going on here, and I
always I always try to be Look, I am I

(19:19):
am biased. I am biased. I am a a hardcore conservative.
You know I'm biased. I'm not pretending i'm not. And
a lot of these issues that we've looked about and
we've talked about, we've been furious about for so long,
we've been frustrated about for so long. Okay, but Cash
and Dan have had like what about our days to
not even that? Right, not even that? And it's like, look,

(19:41):
if you want prosecutions that will stick in court, what
you see being presented on the internet is not necessarily
the same as being able to prove something within the
boundaries and the legal requirements to prove it in court. Right,
there were things that we will look at and say
this is obvious, okay, but if a judge doesn't allow
it to be present in it because of the way
it was collected or something else. Okay, there's problems there. So, like,

(20:05):
I can't think of anybody I would rather have these
positions aggressively chasing this down than Cash Betel and Dan Bongino.
So I do think to some degree, like I understand
people not wanting to settle for bs political lisism why
they can't do things totally get it, okay, but things
don't happen overnight if you want it to actually stick.

(20:26):
And so while we've been pissed about it forever, they
haven't had the power to do anything about it until
very recently, and so I want to make sure again.
I think they are deserved the benefit of to the doubt,
but like it, like Reagan says, right, trust, but verify.
If we're two years into this and nothing's happening, I'm
gonna start to ask some more difficult questions. Sure, but

(20:46):
I mean, my gosh, give them, give them a little
bit of time, right. I think I can't think of
another presidential administration of my lifetime that has moved this
far this fast to try to achieve positive outcomes. But
keep in mind, they are fighting an entrench bureaucracy that
doesn't like them and there are a whole lot of
legal codes that protect that bureaucracy, and they're pulling out

(21:07):
all of the stabs to try to cover down on
a whole host of issues. So I'm sympathetic to the
difficulty with achieving this properly and doing it the correct way.
By the same token, can I can I do something?
There are so many things that people look at and
say that is evil. You know, why are we not
arresting people for that? Because it was legal? Like you

(21:30):
really want to know, you really want to know that
the true horrible things that we've uncovered is not all
the illegal things that our government was doing. It's the
legal stuff they were permitted to do. USAID taking your
tax dollars and sending it to go do you know
trans operas in Colombia is horrible, It's stupid, it's ridiculous.

(21:53):
Why did they do it? But it wasn't illegal. And
that's another thing I think people need to understand about
this whole fight that we're coming up is a lot
of what we're identifying is behaviors and procedures which just
seem unethical as all hell. But until but until Congress
actually acts to either to change the laws appropriately or

(22:15):
we can all appreciate that. This is part of the
reason why you don't want a federal government as massive
as it currently is, is because it provides for things
like this. When voters shout out, I just want my
politicians to do something, Okay, well, the way government typically
does something is they raise your taxes, They make more laws,
they create more agencies, they create more regulations that create

(22:36):
more fines, they create more ways to infringe on your
individual liberty, your property rights, your inherent rights right, and
then we're shocked when it doesn't produce the results we want.
So that's that's the only Those are the two points
I would say is like, look, when when certain people
have demonstrated over time and through many trials, right, they
have paid a personal price for standing for the things

(22:57):
they believe. And I believe that Cash and Dan have
both done that.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
If you don't give those people the benefit of the doubt, well,
then here's my question, who do you think is going
to do a better job? And if we're constantly trashing
the people that really are trying to do as good
a job as they can under the circumstances that they've
been presented, if we're willing to trash them because it's
not good enough, well it's certainly at some point you're
not going to get anybody willing to stand up and
actually fight because they can't. They've got so many bullets

(23:22):
coming at him from the front. They don't need to
be worried about knives in the back.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
You know, I was being facetious just to see if
I could get you fired up about that, because I
agree with you a thousand percent. I you know, you
hear these people saying, Pam Bondy, fire her, and I'm like, dude,
relax man, Like, can you even imagine the pile of

(23:50):
and Dan? I think Dan Bongino and Cash, especially Dan
yesterday in that interview, he nailed it. He's like, everything's
freaking high priority that we're getting like tens of thousands
of things happening all at once. And I think people
are are like, you need to adjust your expectations just
a little bit here, it's been one hundred days or something.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
But to your point, right, like I don't want people
to I don't want people to let up, right, you
wont you let up all of a sudden, like, but
I want I want the fire to be directed in
the proper places.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Like, for instance, I've had people we do it. We
do a show called Doge Watch where we do kind
of like a weekly update on what Doge has been doing. Yeah,
and obviously Dog isn't is prominent in the news anymore
because certain things are winding down, but a lot of
other stuff is still going on. But here's what I've noticed.
I will see people say I am so tired of
of Doge. You know, Doge just talks. What are they

(24:47):
going to do something? It's like, what are they supposed
to do? They're not the legislature, right, we don't we
don't live. We don't live in a bureaucratic dictate. Well,
we're not supposed to write. We don't live in the
sort of country where an in city like Doge can
identify fraud, waste, and abuse and then immediately reallocate it
somewhere else. We have a system of checks and balances

(25:08):
for a reason. Doge's job is to identify the problem areas,
and then the executive branch can at times sequester it,
and then the legislative branch has to actually pass things
like recision bills and new budgets. In order to pull
money back and reallocate it or will hopefully give it
back to taxpayers. Right, But that's part of the process.
And so a lot of times I'm looking at people going, hey, look,

(25:29):
I know you're pissed, right, and I know it's Look,
there's a lot of emotion around this, and for good reason,
for good reason, but emotion is an invitation to thought,
and if you're not taking the additional steps to figure out, Okay,
we've now identified a lot of problems, what is the
process for actually fixing it and then going through that
process and then holding Congress accountable Because I'll tell you

(25:50):
the one group of people that really needs to be
held accountable right now is members of Congress because what
five bills on the President's desk so far bull craft.
That's garbage. That's garbage. We should have far more legislation
getting pumped out right now for the president to be
able to sign, to be able to change things. Like
I'll give you another example, the court coming down with
the whole alien essentially it's the Enemy Aliens Act. Right,

(26:11):
you go back and you read the original language of this, okay,
because it was written for a particular time where we
weren't really worried about non state actors, right, we were
really worried about like terroristization, international criminal organizations the way
that we are now. And so it's said that when
you looked at the way it was originally applied, and
it can be open for interpretation. But a reasonable person

(26:31):
can say, well, okay, but that only applies to citizens
from a country we're in a state of war with. Okay,
And I can see how in eighteen oh two that
might have been the way that you would structure such
an argument or structure such a legal code. But now
when we're fighting MS thirteen, now, when we're fighting international
drug card tells now, when we're fighting international terrorist organizations,

(26:53):
do we need to change the law or does it
need to be or do we need to understand they
can have a broader interpretation. You know what would settle
all but Congress sending a bill to the President's desk.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
But instead half the time we're mad about Well, I
can't believe the cord into that conclusion. You don't want
the court to have to come to that conclusion. We
got this thing called Congress, and good news, Republicans control
the House and the Senate so start sending bills.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
What so and my wife, By the way, I think
you got a new fan. My wife, you're a miracle worker.
She actually has agreed with something here. I'm kidding. She
agrees with a lot of She's amazing. But she said
in an earlier question comment here is Doge going to

(27:41):
continue once Elon steps back? What are your thoughts on that?
Do you have any inside knowledge on that?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
A little bit? So I had an opportunity to sit down.
We did an interview recently with Antonio Grossias. He's the
one that if you remember the chart right, that's right,
that demonstrated that we had over two million non citizens
getting Social Security numbers and that that as a drastic
departure from previous history. So I had an opportunity to
sit down and talk with him about it. And every
indication I get from talking to the White House, from

(28:08):
talking to members of the Doge team is this process continues.
There's another gentleman I just interviewed. We're going to release
that soon. His name's David Hamilton. He's one of the
senior advisors for the Doge Caucus. And we have this
whole conversation about Doge two point zero, because the initial
work that DOGE did was exactly excuse me, exactly what
they needed to focus on, find the most egregious cases

(28:29):
of waste fraud, abuse all of that because the American
people needed to know exactly how bad it was. But
the next step of that is efficiencies. So it's not
just about identifying something that went wrong and then pulling
back the money. It's also about, to the extent that
some of these agencies are going to continue to exist,

(28:49):
how do we correct for the mistakes? How do we
add for additional transparency? And David Hamilton has some very
good suggestions that he's bringing to the DOGE Caucus that
will require legislation. I think the doage is going to continue.
You already see that there's a new element on the
DOGE website that has now focused on regulations, and they
already anticipate about twenty seven to twenty eight billion in

(29:10):
additional savings from getting rid of you know, redundant, out
of date, absurd regulations. So this is going to be
a long process. But can I say this, this is
the one thing that I am. I've always been very
cautiously optimistic about DOGE. Here's what worries me. We are
so used to looking at the next shiny object that

(29:31):
I think we need to understand that if we don't
fundamentally reduce the size of the federal bureaucracy, all these
problems are going to come back, you know, even bigger
than they were before. And what I would encourage people
to we did a whole episode on this. Go look
at Article one, section eight of the Constitution. What you
read an Article one, section eight is essentially the list

(29:53):
of federal responsibilities. Here's what you're going to find. I
would argue somewhere in the neighborhood of you know it,
at least fifty percent, and I'm being really generous, it's
probably a lot more than that fifty percent. Of what
the federal government is doing right now, you cannot find
direct justification with an Article one, section eight. So the

(30:13):
question is why are they doing it? Why can they
do it? Well, now we get into a discussion about
the sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution, because a lot of
what the federal government does when we say that's not constitutional,
why are they doing that? Oh, we'll read carefully. They're
not forcing you to do it. They're simply using their
ability to tax, to take your money, which means to
pull it out of the hands of individuals and the states,

(30:34):
right and then spend it on the things that they like.
And if you don't want to participate, that's fine. You
just won't get the benefit of the money that the
federal government is allocating for that particular project. So it
ends up becoming a way that the federal government is
able to vastly exceed its duties and responsibility, it's enumerated
power is given to it in the Constitution, and to
essentially extort states into accepting their rule and dominance over

(30:59):
things that they have no business being involved in. And
so if we're not willing to tackle fundamental issues like that,
then I'm sorry, but four years of Trump is not
going to accomplish everything that we hope it will.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
It won't. And I I I literally I've said the
same thing you know she said up here again. My
wife has has great comments. When you have the speaker
saying that that Congress should be able to trade stocks,
that that's what.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
So all right, I think we we they're first things first,
There definitely need to be some heavy restrictions. I think
serious box they can trade, right, should a should a
member of Congress be able to have like an index
fund for their far one K I think most people
would say sure, whatever, But the idea that they're going

(31:49):
to get to engage in individual day trading, right, like,
that's that's shady as hell. Here's but can I but
can I say this? Right? Here's the here's the practical
issue with writing this into law. Because one of the
things I always tell people is as a lawmaker, as
a as a guy that writes legislation, we don't write intentions.
We write laws, and so you always have to be

(32:10):
very very careful about how you write a law so
that you're getting that the thing that you want and
you're not getting the things you don't want or creating
perverse incentives. Let me give you a pick example of
this campaign finance reform. People love it, right, of course
we need campaign finance reform. Do you want to know
who the primary beneficiaries of campaign finance reform are? Incumbents?

(32:31):
Incumbents benefit from campaign finance reform because we always find
we can always find ways to raise money. We have
a natural I mean, we're already we already have a
built in advantage when we run. So again, you might
be looking at this going I want I want to
get money out of politics. I understand that, but if
you do it incorrectly, then the incumbents benefit, and that's

(32:52):
not who you're trying to help. So it's the same
thing with something like the stock trade. It's if I'm
a member of Congress, Okay, who is not allowed to
trade anymore?

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Am I? I'm not allowed to trade? Okay, fine, can
my wife? Okay? Well no, no immediate family members Okay,
so my brother, my brother's no longer allowed to trade
on the stock market because I'm in Congress, right right?
My parents like, so this is these are the things
we get to it. When I say something like this,
some people will get mad and be like, I just
want answers. I'm like, well, dude, I'm sorry. We live
in the real world, and so we've got to write

(33:23):
it carefully. There's no question that there needs to be
restrictions on individual stock trading, no questions. But we also
need to understand that some people are going to now
try to use workarounds. They're going to go through friends,
they're going to go through family members, and now you
even got less transparency, and so That's what I want
people to be aware of, is that anything. Anytime something
sounds like a really really easy silver bullet for something,

(33:46):
sometimes there's second and third order effects. I want it done.
I want it done, but I also understand that we've
got to we've got to be comprehensive and how we
do it.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
You know, I agree with everything you just I mean
that that would be absurd to say your brother can't
can't trade stocks because you're in Congress. I you know
it really for me, it goes back to what you
said early on, and that is fixing the family. The

(34:16):
that's I really believe that that's the genesis of our
of our problems in this country is we don't have
the You know, my wife and I and our daughter
went to church yesterday and and I'm sitting there looking
around at you know, you saw there's a lot of
single tell single moms in the and it's like, where

(34:36):
where are the men in this in this country? Why
are they not stepping up and being real men? And
and and since when did it become so popular to
to to to want to convert to a woman, Like
what is going on? And and so I think again,
I think it goes back to that fundamental you know,

(34:59):
putting in the center.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I think, no, I will look. I think a lot
of the times there's been a lot of criticism about
and I think some of it we need to recognize
that if you're a if you're a twenty year old man,
almost your entire life, you've been told you're the problem.
You've been told that everything is a result of the

(35:22):
evil cisgendered patriarchy. And so you're you're walking around being
told that your masculinity is toxic, that you know, you
need to sit down and shut up. The future is female.
You need to you know, whenever something comes out that
you don't like, well, that's okay, it's not for you.
I mean that that has been woke ideology has been
the predominant ideology. Now we're starting to see a backlash,

(35:42):
a significant backlash, and young men are part of the
people leading that backlash. But that's been the case for
like a couple of decades now. And so like I'm
old enough to remember growing up at a time where
masculinity was still celebrated, we were still we still expecting
men to behave a certain way, We still expected women
to behave a certain way, and that wasn't meant to

(36:03):
be like restrictive. It wasn't that like I don't remember
growing up in an era where a woman having a
job or having a high powered career was a bad thing.
It wasn't right. It was women could attain to whatever
level they wanted within politics, with an industry or whatnot.
But we didn't elevate that while denigrating and denigrating you know,
women who chose to make raising or educating their kids

(36:26):
their primary occupation within the family. We didn't integrate that. Well,
now we have. Now we've gone through a couple of
decades now of doing that, and young men have grown
up in that environment. Well, young men are revolting because
they were always going to They were always going to
revolt the system which is essentially deliberately excluded and demean them.
And by the way, you want to say about the dumbest,
the single dumbest thing that wokeism ever did was alienate

(36:48):
young men, was act like young men don't matter. Oh really, okay, Well,
quick question, who exactly do you use to fight wars
or fight fires or fight I mean, don't get me wrong,
I know we can all play nake believe eve that
all of these roles within society are completely interchangeable between
men and women. Newsflash, they're not. And when it actually
comes to practical reality, we see that very very plainly.

(37:11):
And so now young men are starting to revolt against
that system, which God bless them, they should. But the
question is is which direction are they going to go?
Because one of the solutions they're not offered is not
one that focuses on being It doesn't focus exclusively on
being strong, intelligent, you know, wise powerful for the purpose
of something you know, maybe noble or transcendent or bigger

(37:33):
than them. It's more about so you can have nice houses,
fast cars, beautiful women. It's very hedonistic on some level.
And what we're trying to do now is we're trying
to we're trying to push men into this idea where
we say, yeah, you have been lied to. Your masculinity
is a good thing. You need to develop yourself spiritually, emotionally, intellectually, physically,
and professionally, but it needs if you really want to

(37:55):
have something that gives you meaning and purpose, then it
has to be in the pursuit of that which is honorable,
that which is noble and Honestly, I do think that's
ultimately what men want. I mean, yeah, hey, would we
all love to have a nice car, a nice house,
and a beautiful woman. Sure, and we're not saying you
can't have that, But that beautiful woman should be your wife,
not a bunch of you know, chicks at the club.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
That house should be earned through productive labor. Right, that
carl should not be consuming your identity. And that's what
I'm hoping that we can actually do. I'm hoping that
we have a generation of young men. And look, I
am encouraged by the fact that more and more young
men are starting to go to church. They're looking for
something that actually provides stability, morality, truth, identity, genuine identity.
And that's a good thing. But our churches are going

(38:40):
to have to understand is they've also been a part
of the process of alienating young men.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
That's right. Amen to that. Amen to that. Wow, my
wife said, that's why men like Andrew Tait and his
brother are growing in popularity.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
You know, well they are. They are in part because
they've done a very good job of identifying part of
the problem, and they are are appealing to certain things
that are not bad now they're appealing to other things
that I completely and vehemently disagree with, total right, And
I will tell you this. Have you noticed how woke
wants to call out like Christian men to say, why
aren't you attacking Andrew Tate? And it's like, well, look,

(39:15):
I'm very very obvious on where I differ from from
Andrew and Tristan. I'm very very obvious I don't disagree
with them and where I advise me to go in
a very very different direction. But I've noticed that you
don't seem to think you're capable of taking on Andrew Tait.
Why is that, Oh, it's it's because you've alienated every
single strong man within your ideology and your party, and

(39:36):
now you're waking up to the fact that, oh, we're
not capable of actually defending ourselves when it comes down
to it. It's like, no, you're not. So you better
hope the right side wins because I'll tell you this much,
the change is going to happen. The change is going
to happen one way or another. The Woke lose no
matter what. They do, not have the means to saying
themselves long term. But there's one element that is it

(39:58):
is going to have a very different approach to them
than the other one.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
And so yeah, yeah, I'm I'm I am picking up
what you're putting down. You know, I think you know
when when you for you, you know you you And
I'm sitting here going, man, why is this dude not
in the US Senate or like literally in the US Congress,
Like there is no way and and and I'm not

(40:26):
blowing hot air up your skirt, not that you're wearing
a skirt, but but like, there is no way that
ninety nine percent of the people we have in Congress
could debate you. There's no way. I've never I've known
I know a lot of people in politics I've had
I was friends with Judge ken Starr, who's who's he's

(40:49):
passed away, but he was an amazing human being. You're dude,
You're you're smart, and you understand the Constitution, which is huge.
Why are you not going further with this? I really
want you too. I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Look, I ran, I lost, right, like my district decided,
my district decided they didn't want me. Well, and here's
the other thing I'll say on that, right, one of
the things that we need to understand about politics in
general is that all political races are about seventy to
eighty percent geography and timing. So if you're in a
if you're in a very very conservative district and you're
very very conservative, yeah, you're you're gonna you're gonna win

(41:30):
the general election if you can get through the primary,
so all of that. But if you're in a very
very you know, liberal district, well, I don't care how
good you are at debate. Yourdeology doesn't line up with
the people that are voting, and so you're gonna lose. Right,
And and there's a lot of people Morton Blackwell, who's
just a legend in in Virginia and really kind of
Republican politics, he talks about what he calls the the

(41:52):
Sir Galahad approach to politics, and it's people that really
go into politics thinking my cause is just and therefore
I shall win. Like yeah, that's not how history, that's
not how reality, where it's like, hey, we may God
wins in the end, but there's still a lot of
room for some el's right between that right so right,

(42:12):
so I will see people that will have this idea
that well, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna work really
hard at it. I'm like, okay, well that's cute, dude,
But you're going up against somebody that's already got two
million dollars in the bank, right right, and you may
be able to you may be able to kick the
living crap out of him in a debate. What happens
when they don't debate you like Abigail Spamberger. Abigail Spamberger

(42:32):
agreed to a total of one televised debate, and she
only agreed to it about three weeks after early voting
had already started. And then it wasn't even a debate.
It was a forum. Asked me a question, ask her
a question, asked me a question. It wasn't even like
we got to cross examine or anything. It was nothing
like the traditional debates that you think of within politics.

(42:54):
And that was it. And then the rest of the
time she just says whatever she wants and if she's
got more money to spend her message, it's out more
than mine does. And you know, so, I think people
need to understand the practical realities of this. And the
other thing again that I will go back to, is
it better.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
If the I I lost sound here, you're all you're
muted somehow. There we go. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Sorry, Maybe that was God muting me because I knew
I was about to piss somebody off. So I say,
you want you want better elected officials, Okay, you need
better voters. And better voters are not voters that just
get angry. Better voters are ones that really dive into
this whole idea of understanding what is the proper role
of government?

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Some simply because someone has an R by their name
doesn't mean they actually share your worldview with respect of
the proper role of government. Republicans are some of the
biggest spenders out there, depending on what the actual topic is.
And so I think it's important for again voters to
take very very seriously that role. And here's what I'm
gonna tell you, And again, let's piss some more people off.

(44:07):
Can let's do it? Does everyone here understand? I think
I am willing to bet that everyone everyone on watching
your channel inherently and intuitively understands problem with state run media.
They just get it. The idea of the government running
the news, the idea of the government running the newspapers, right,

(44:29):
that's all something they would look at and be like, no,
that's absurd, because what you're gonna get is a media
that is incapable of holding the government accountable and pushing
a particular agenda. Okay, new government runs schools, because the
vast majority of our kids all get educated within government
run schools. So should you be shocked when they are

(44:52):
inundated with a worldview which essentially tells them, of course,
the government should run your health care. I'm sorry, provide
your health care for free. Of of course. The government
should provide for your education for free. Of course, the
government should be required to provide shelter for people in need.
Of course, the government. If your kids are going to
a government run institution, that government run institution, in all

(45:12):
likelihood and probability, is probably going to elevate the importance
of government's role in their life at every single level.
And it is more and more diminishing the role of
parents in a child's life. And we turn around and
we wonder, I don't understand this. I didn't raise them
this way, okay, but how much how many hours a

(45:34):
day did you get to quote raise your children versus
the education system? Right or something else? I'm not telling
you what to do. I am saying that if you're
not taking that into account, then you're not fully appreciating
all the people that are actually raising your children.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
So and there's we have over eleven hundred people watching
us live right now. You know, I think that if
if we you know, look at I mean, my wife
put in the comments. I don't know if you saw it.
Can you move to Texas and I see you know,
it's it's funny, but you know, look, man, we're in trouble.

(46:15):
I really think we especially here in Texas, it's it's
definitely gone purple and and and we're like, what is
Everybody's like, what's happening? I posted a video yesterday on
x that that you know is literally the at the
Texas House where they're celebrating killing all these bills for

(46:37):
for the GOP bills. And it's like, what do we do?
I mean, you're you're, you're in in government already, you
went out, you did, you did the thing. You're you've
been for ten years, you've been in government. You did
announce your retirement so you can run for US Senate.
I understand, h I'm trying. I'm trying, you guys Okay,

(47:03):
I'm trying. But the thing is is we need people
like you in leadership roles. And I understand it's it's
I get it. So what do we do the average
person out here that's gonna vote for people coming into office?
What do we do to stop this what appears to

(47:27):
be some sort of a hostile takeover primaries?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Primaries? Primaries. Yeah, the number of people that participate in
primaries is abysmal, And what ends up happening is people like,
why are the Republicans and Democrats all like you didn't
get involved in the primary. Chances are you had someone
in the primary that was actually ready to go and
kind of like disrupt the system a bit, but they
didn't have the money, they didn't have the name recognition,

(47:52):
and they and maybe they were out there and they
were really trying to do a good job. Because every
once in while those people break through and they get elected, right,
But it's because they need people to show up in
the primaries. And you can't just go for the person
that might be kind of the loudest. You really do
need to focus on a person that you think is
absolutely dedicated to the principles and the way you can
dim it. There's two ways that you can demonstrate dedication

(48:12):
to principles. One, they can actually articulate them. They can
explain them at a fundamental level, not just superficial. So
I'll give you an example. How do you feel about
the Second Amendment? Well, you know, Nick, my family are
all big hunters. Okay, cool, So you know nothing about
why the Second Amendment actually exists, right, Like, that's my response. Now, okay, great,
so you know nothing perfect right. But if someone says, oh,

(48:33):
I absolutely believe in the Second Amendment because it's fundamental
to a free society, you cannot ultimately maintain a free
society if freecisms are not actually permitted the means right,
or the government doesn't recognize the inherent right for free
citizens to possess the means to defend themselves and their country.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Now I'm talking to somebody that I at least know
understands why it is the way it is. The next
question I usually ask, and this is something. When I
announced my retirement, I also immediately announced who I endorsed
to replace me. And one of the phrases that I
use when I talk to people is I will see

(49:11):
people who have not really been involved, or they have
been involved, but in not in any of the controversial fights. Right,
They've always kind of kept themselves safe from anything that
they thought could you know, potentially cause some issues. And
they'll get up there and they'll say, elect me, I'm
gonna fight for you. What do you mean you're going
to fight for me? This fight has been going on

(49:32):
for decades. Don't tell me you're gonna fight for me.
Show me your scars. Show me somewhere where you have
put in the effort, You've assumed risk, Maybe you've you've
paid a price for standing up for what you believe.
Because if you haven't done those things by this stage,
screw you, dude. You don't get to step up now
and say, oh, I'm ready to lead. Really, were you

(49:53):
ever in the trenches or did you are? We just
were you saving yourself for this special moment in time?
Like no, Like, I want to see scars, baby, I
want to see that you have thought, that you have
risked something and that you're serious about this. Because here's
what happens. You get down into a political environment, all
of a sudden you will just be shocked at how

(50:14):
the moment you get elected and now you have some power.
You become better looking and funnier, and people laugh at
your jokes and they call you nice things, and they
want to sit down and talk with you, and they
want to discuss to you the way it really works, right,
And it's like, Nick, I understand you're passionate about this,
but this is the way it really works. And there
is some element of understanding that. There's some element of

(50:36):
understanding that and having to work within the boundaries. But
you need people that are willing to step up and
say no, this is wrong, here's why. And look, with
social media, it's never been easier to do to or
broader audience because you don't have to talk through the
lens of the legacy media anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
So those are two things I would say, find candidates
that actually have those two components. They understand what they
believe and why it's rooted in something bigger than just themselves,
of the desire to be in public office. And then
find somebody that's actually put in some work when it
wasn't just all about them getting elected. Those are the
two things. Secondly, from a voter standpoint, you have to
participate in the primaries. You do not get too bitch

(51:14):
right about rhinos when you had an option in the primary,
but you couldn't be bothered, right, That drives me nuts,
drives me nuts. You got to be a little bit
more involved.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Look, I don't want so much of our lives to
be this dependent on who holds political office. But if
you want to get to that point, then you have
to elect people that are going to get there and
not just vote correctly. They're going to be an advocate.
They're going to carry legislation to actually decrease the size
and scope of government to what it was intended to be,
not what it's become. And that means you're going to

(51:46):
make enemies. That means you're going to make enemies. And
if you're not goob with that, this is not the
business for you.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I think that you know, the average voter, just the
average freaking voter is you know they think and it
was what was it? I think on average twenty eight
percent of Republicans show up to vote in primaries.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I think that's probably even that's probably optimistic, and that's
you know what that is. That's probably a presidential primary.
What about their state primaries? Right? What about what are
those so much of what like this is another thing
else see all the time, I can't believe Donald Trump
hasn't done this. That's because it's a state issue. Don't
give me excuses when the Constitution is the reason he

(52:30):
can't do something. That's a pretty damn good excuse. Right,
Can we stop playing make believe that we elected a
king that can just do whatever he wants?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Right? Right?

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I know the Democrats want us to believe that's what
we did. But Trump doesn't conduct himself that way. He
operates within the boundaries of the Constitution as he should.
So a lot of the issues that you're pissed about
are state level issues, and so you need people on
the state level that understand that and we'll do and
we'll conduct themselves appropriately.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
And as Sally, I'm sure you can see the comments too,
I think. But you know she's saying primaries is not
the answer. Only four percent of incumbents get primary.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Wait a second, Wait a second, that's begging the question.
If only four percent of incumbents get primary, the question
is is why aren't more incumbents getting primary? So when
I say the primaries are an element of this, like
because again the question was, what do we do on
the political front. Well, on the political front, then you
find you actually find good candidates that are willing to
go out there and challenge incumbents. Because here's what you'll find.

(53:28):
Sometimes the challenger won't win, but all of a sudden,
the voting record of the incumbent gets a lot more conservative.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I wonder why that was. It's because they got some
real heat. Yeah, that's real. He just yelling at him
on Twitter. Right. Heat is also doing practical things that
they watch and that they're worried about, and they like
to avoid primary challenges. So, I mean, my wife ran
against a twenty eight year incumbent Republican senator in Virginia.
Why Because he was in a district where Republicans win

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with seventy percent of the vote. And he was voting
for Obamacare expansion, he was voting against gun rights, he
was voting to give money to Planned Parenthood. And then
lo and behold, Tina stands up and says, I'm going
to run against you, and that year his voting record
drastically improved. Huh, I wonder why that was. So that's
what I'm saying. But to Sally's point, but to Sally's point,
that's not the solution that fixes all of it, because, again,

(54:24):
to her point, when only four percent of incumbents are
getting primary that means we don't have enough people that
are willing to actually step out there and do that.
So how do you get more of them? It starts
in your home. The most lasting impact I will probably
have on the world is not that I was a
Green Beret. It's not that I served in the House
of Delegates. It's the fact that I raised three kids

(54:44):
who are absolutely dedicated to their faith, their values. They're
willing to defend it. They have defended it. They've gone
into environments where they're vastly outnumbered and been very very
comfortable defending what they believed right, And so they're going
to have kids that do the same thing. And ultimately,
this is a numbers and I always say, we can
win this whole thing in one generation. Why we don't
abort our kids? Right? We like having kids, We like

(55:08):
having kids. We need to be more careful about who's
actually participating in the raising and educating of our children.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Yes. Yeah, And my my dear friend Megan lives over
there in Virginia. She said, we love you here in
Virginia and obviously elsewhere as well.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Thank you mean yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I know that you're a very very busy guy, and
I don't want to I don't want to take up
the whole your whole day. I I I would really
encourage everybody watching. What's your website address, by the way,
I want to put that up on the well.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
So our social media is pretty much everything is Nickjfradus
dot com. So if you go to nick Jfradis, if
you go to like YouTube, Instagram, you know, wherever, wherever
there's a social media platform, nick Jfradis is usually where
to find us.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Okay, f R E I T A S. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Oh yeah yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I really I would love it if everybody watching listening
once once this is on the podcast networks, just go
to nick N I c K J F R E
I T A S nick Jfredus dot com.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
But it's easier to find me just by typing in
nick J. Fredis into like Google. Oh, that'll take you.
You know, if you go to my Instagram page, we
have a link tree on there and that'll show you
all of our programs.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Okay, yeah, and I know that you you have is
you have some kind of a membership thing you want
to talk about that. I think that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Yeah, we we have a community. We have this platform
we use called Circle and we kind of effectually refer
to it as the IC, which is, uh, what's just
funny because IC is an acronrom for the intelligence community, uh,
in the military. But we use it as intentional community
and a big part of what we're trying to do
in there is we're just trying to help people find
their people. And so it's people that are looking for

(57:07):
everything from you know, it could be so at homeschooling,
it could be assistance on running for office. It could
be assistance on you know, fitness or health or marriage
or raising kids, or you know, running for political office.
This is a place where you can go where you know,
we have a certain set of values. We foster and
engage in debate, but we have a certain set of
values that we're absolutely committed to and we're not changing,

(57:30):
We're not compromising on this is what we believe. But
if you want to come and be a part of that,
I mean, it's a great opportunity. Some of the stuff
we've been doing a lot lately, a lot of it
has been relationship focused because we've already had a too,
We've already had a couple of people now that met
with met each other within our community and either got
married or getting married wow. And a lot of that
has been about just you know, sitting there and talking

(57:50):
about the importance of marriage and how wonderful it is,
and you know how culture is attempted to denegrate it,
but it remains strong because it is the building block
of society and it is. If I could just say
one other thing, yes, I know how frustrating things get,
and especially when we're focused on politics, it's very easy
for it to get frustrated.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
I am so.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Optimistic ultimately about the way things are going because I
do think more and more people are recognizing that not
only have they kind of been lied to by a
lot of institutions that quite frankly, we all should have
been able to expect better from. But it's because we
still do live in an incredibly free country and there
are so many options and opportunities out there, and I'm

(58:31):
seeing more and more people look for that kind of
community and are now taking control back again. They're not
accepting what the powers that be tell them they have
to settle for. And it's not just political. It is
about taking greater control over their health, it's about taking
greater control over their families and the education of their children.
And when I see more and more people adopting that,

(58:53):
and then I see it's tough, right, it's tough to
take more responsibility, But ultimately it's the responsibilities that we
have within our life that actually give us the most purpose,
meaning and happiness. And so I want more people to
recognize that there is so much you can do up.
You don't got to wait for an election, and you
don't got to ask permission, You just go do it.

(59:15):
And that's really what being That's really what being I
think a free American is about, is recognizing, no, I
don't got to wait on anybody to give me permission
to do the things that I need to do for
my family, for my faith, and for my country. And
the more people become committed to that, and more strong
and bold they get in it, that's what saves us.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Totally agree, man, And I think, you know, I think
about my grandfather, who did two tours in World War
two and died a Democrat, and I think about that,
and I'm like there is no way, no way he
would believe. I just know, you know, and it's like
because it was completely different back then. And I think

(59:58):
if we can get away from this political divide and
stop listening to what the mainstream, the government run media
or whatever run media. But Nick, you're you're phenomenal, man.
I am so grateful that you invested the time today
with the audience and everybody on X. We have over

(01:00:21):
twelve hundred people watching on X if you would please
go follow Nick. He's amazing and I appreciate you everything
you've done. Thank you for your service, as I've already said,
and not just in the military, but in government office.
It's it's it's incredible. So thank you and I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
It's been my pleasure. Thank you very much for what
you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Oh my honor, my honor. So everybody share this out
if you haven't yet, and Nick, if you can hang
on real quick, I'm going to wrap this up and
then we'll chat real fast. And everybody, thank you for watching,
thank you for sharing, and we'll see you all later.
Thank you, Nick, Thank you