July 3, 2025 • 43 mins
Brian welcomes Colin Salig to the show. Colin works in the Athletic department at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. Colin also shares his experiences working in Minor League Baseball and his experience at James Madison University.
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All right, we are live on the Bryan Christiana Podcast here on
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being the provider here on this.I am here today with a good
friend of mine and honestly a huge success 'cause I'm so proud
of him. Mr. Collin, Sailor Collin, great
to see you, my friend. It's awesome.
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Good. Good to see you, Brian.
It's been been too long. It's I'm very excited and
honored to, you know, be a guesthere on your podcast and thank
you for, you know, taking time out of your busy schedule to,
you know, have me on here and, you know, looking forward to him
and it's been too long. So ladies and gentlemen, Colin
is a very busy man. He's very young.
He's in the world of sports and in the NCAA.
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Colin, where are you at now? Yeah.
So I'm currently at Drake University, so in Des Moines,
IA, so very, very long ways away, my hometown Pennsylvania
and you know where we both worked with the the Stormers,
but I'm the assistant Director of athletics marketing there.
So I help promote all of our division wide varsity sports,
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whether that's contribute to thein game experience, being part
of the music there or promoting and posting social media
activity to promote anything nights or promotions to, you
know, help people get to our games, incentivize attendance.
So it's a smaller school. So a lot of it's a smaller
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department that I was used to before I was working at James
Madison University in Virginia prior and you know, it's even a
smaller department than where wewere working at the
Barnstormers. But it's a it's a great time and
you know, I've been able to, youknow, be a part of a lot of
different things to get my handson experience in different
aspects that, you know, I usually wouldn't expect from
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different positions. So yeah, it's, it's a fun time
and it keeps me busy throughout the year.
So right now it's a bit of a downtime.
We don't have any home events until the end of August when
football season gets underway. But you know, it's always,
always, it's always great. And you know, right now I'm just
enjoying some downtime while also preparing for next season.
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It's incredible, like what you're doing.
You're originally from Pennsylvania, like you said.
What part of Pennsylvania are you from?
So I am from Downingtown, PA, soI'm in the southeastern part of
Pennsylvania, about right outside of Philly.
So I'm about 30 on a on a good day of no traffic, maybe 40
minutes away from Philly, but weknow that's all rare.
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So it's probably about more of an hour.
And then I'm also about an hour away from New Jersey, so right
on that very close to that border.
So Chester County more specifically, if that helps
anyone else in terms of location.
But yeah, I was born and raised there.
Went to Dyke Counties high school shuts the Cougars class
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2018 and then, yeah, then went to the College in Virginia.
But Pennsylvania born and raised.
So, Downingtown, can you tell usa little bit about Downingtown?
What, what did you do for fun? What did you do with your
family? Tell us about Downingtown.
Yeah, for sure. What I love about Downingtown
is, you know, it's a suburban area, so obviously there's a lot
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of shopping centers and malls. But I was very involved in
sports from a young age. My brother was a swimmer and I
got intrigued from swimming because of him.
So we, my hometown, my, my childhood home is right next to,
you know, the YMCA that we belong to my family and I belong
to. So we swam, I swam for the YMCA
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team from when I was a kid up until about high school.
And then we, there was tennis leagues all over the suburbs.
So every summer I was actually going to daddy tell W our
rivals. They had the the day at tennis
courts down there. And every summer I was a part of
our tennis league, so was competing in tournaments and
meets and matches all around thePennsylvania area.
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So was very involved in sports from a young age even did you
know youth baseball kind like what everyone else does.
You go to your local youth baseball association.
But other than that, what I really like to do is there's so
many hiking trails and places togo outside.
So my family and I, whenever I get together and we always go on
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some sort of a hike and we look at different trails around the
area. I mean, there's hundreds and
hundreds of trails around the area.
It's it's a fun time. And you know, it's it's the
Pennsylvania, the trails in nature is very beautiful,
especially during the spring andsummer and all year round,
honestly. So, yeah, again, grew up, you
know, going to sports and, you know, working there and
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eventually, you know, went to nature and trails and eventually
it was all good. So you know, it's a fun time.
What sports did you always have interest in?
Colin, you, you really stressed sports.
Yeah. So yeah, obviously I swam and I
play tennis, but it was even more fun as Pennsylvania is
great. I think what I really got into
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minor league sports specifically, you know, before I
worked, you know, you and I withthe Barnstormers is there's so
many different minor League Baseball teams around the area.
I mean, there's you've got running Fine Fields, Lehigh
Valley Iron Pigs, Lakewood, BlueClaws, Wilmington Blue Rocks,
and they're all within an hour the range of our hometown.
So a lot of us, you know, my family and I at least once
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summer would always go to one ofthese games and just, you know,
get the experience, the thrills and the family fun atmosphere of
my early baseball. I think that's one of my
earliest memories of early getting into, you know, sports
and baseball in general. And and yeah, I mean, every year
summer we would go on. I think a lot of that growing up
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and going to those games really kind of helped get my interest
into working with the barn summers and, you know, getting
an internship with them. Because, you know, I grew up
watching like all these different in game promotions,
all these different, you know, T-shirt tosses, hot dog tosses.
And for me to, and eventually when I had the opportunity to do
that back in 20 summer 2021 withthe Stormers, that it just
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brought back some great memoriesand it was actually fun to be
the ones to, you know, do all that silly and wacky stuff in
game. It's so incredible.
And I mean, like I, like you said, summer of 2021, we met
each other and you could tell Colin, you had a drive to you.
You had motivation. You really wanted to get into
the world of sports. And I mean, your parents, they
did a good job with you, man. They really did.
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It seems like they knew what they were doing that and they
had they they really put you on the right path at sea.
Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
I mean, you know, Chad, I can't can't express my love enough for
them. I mean, I could go on on on this
podcast, but you know, they definitely have supported and
just been a great round of support for me.
I mean, you know, we're when someone usually says that they
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want to pursue sports, I think sometimes there's a little like,
like, how's that going to work out?
But they even when, you know, from when I was considering
being a major and when I eventually went to James
Madison, majored in sports management, you know, from up
until now where I am at Drake, they've just been incredibly
supportive and even kind of helpme even find jobs, you know,
back then, you know, and with internships or anything, they've
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always been kind of supportive and helping me say, hey, look at
these jobs or look, find these job postings and try to help me.
So really means a lot. And I love them with all my
heart. And you know, they definitely
have helped me, shaped to be, shaped me to be who I am today.
The one thing you brought up in that I, I really, really sparked
an interest to me, it was you, you talked about some different
minor league teams and one of them, I mean, we'll talk about
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Lancaster for sure. But Reading, have you ever?
How often have you been to that stadium?
Yeah, so when I was when I was younger, I was going to at least
one game almost every summer. I mean, from when I was a young
elementary schooler to high school, obviously,
unfortunately, you know, would be living in the Midwest now.
The last few years it's been very and COVID been very tough
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for me to get back there. So I haven't been back there
since before COVID, I think now.But yeah, but we would go there
because it was only about half an hour, 40 minutes away from
our house. And, you know, obviously the,
the beauty of minor League Baseball is tickets are way
cheaper than the Major League prices, you know, which is I
think one of the big, probably the biggest reason why people
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come to Canes is just because ofall the cheap plans.
And you know, you don't have to spend all the Major League
prices. You know, you can get a hot dog
for cheap. You don't have to get a $10 hot
dog. You know, that kind of stuff.
Exactly. But no, we went we would go
there and you know, we would experience all the the joy and
the fun of it. I mean, you know, because, you
know, my parents always wanted me to like stay active and do
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stuff in the summer. And, you know, that was
something that, you know, all ofus kind of enjoyed, even like my
siblings who aren't as big a baseball fans or but it was a
fun time for everybody, you know, And one of the one of my
prize prize, one of the best moments was the writing Phillies
fighting fields. They have a mascot called the
crazy hot dog Bender. Brian might know that.
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I, I don't know if anyone else knows that, but there's a guy
that dresses up as like he, he dresses up in like, you know,
those early like ice cream suitswhere they're wearing like the
white suit and like a funny little Bender hat.
And he rides a inflatable ostrich.
And during like a couple, you know, a couple promotions in
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between, he has like a bunch of hot dogs and he just like chucks
them into the crowd. And it's it was it was awesome.
It's unique to the writing Feinfeld's identity.
And I think that was just fun towatch.
And, you know, one game, my dad snagged it one hand snagged a
hot dog and I was so proud. I just I ate that with so much
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pry. I remember that night so.
I love that. I love that.
Yeah, you got you look it up though.
You just look up crazy hot dog fendered.
You know, eventually if anyone here gets a chance, it's I'm
pretty sure they still do it. I mean, they probably, you know,
modernized it, you know, since the last time I went.
But it's, it's pretty funny and I think it's, it's one of the
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coolest, you know, promotions I've seen at a minor league
game. Calling out in reading if I'm
correct, they have a pool, don'tthey?
They do, yeah. They're so it's in right field
if I'm not mistaken. And I obviously it's one of
those, you know, you have to like book a suite, book a party
deck or whatever. And but yeah, they're it's it's
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right at the right field. It's really small.
I mean, it's not like, I think there's one team in Texas that
has like a full on like lazy pool that goes on for like all
around the outfield, but it's only, it's just a small pool in
the right field party deck. So, yeah, one of the one of the
very few minor league teams that, you know, has a pool
there, but you got you got to book it.
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You got to have like a large group to come out to it.
I never got to experience it because that's probably
obviously one of the more, you know, expensive options because
it's, you know, has all these little cool gadgets and, you
know, unique experiences. But yeah, definitely got a pool.
And, you know, they could, you know, they have a unique video
board as well. So, you know, if anyone lives in
that rain area, definitely go toit.
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You know, it's definitely a fun time regardless of how the team
performs on the field. So Colin, you, you went to
Downing, you're down from the Downingtown area, You said you
went to Downingtown, E, right? Yeah, correct.
And what other experiences did you have in high school?
Were you involved in any other activities besides, you said,
swimming and tennis? Anything else?
Yeah. So I was also involved in NHSI
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think, you know, a lot of lot ofkids were involved in NHS.
So whenever we had to do like volunteer opportunities or doing
community service stuff, I really helped out with that for
four years. I also did, you know, other
other clubs. So I mean, there was like a
sports talk club back in high school.
So a group of us kind of just talk sports.
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Unfortunately that kind didn't debut until my senior year.
So very kind of a short lived experience, but hopefully that's
still going strong. But yeah, mostly, mostly we just
got involved with sports. I mean, swimming and tennis kind
of took up a lot of my time, especially in the fall, winter.
And, you know, I was also, you know, splitting time with my
academics. And then also the other big
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thing I did was choir. I did choir for all four years
of high school. Part was men's choir, Yeah, the
regular concert choir and then masterworks.
So did that all four years. And that took up a lot of some
of my time too. So it was how it worked was I
took like a class, it was like amasterworks class.
And I took it like 2 out of the five school days a week.
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You know, we would rehearse and all that and he would.
And then for men's choir, I tried out for that.
And then that one was you would only be once a week for about
two hours, like Wednesday nights, I believe.
And yeah. So a lot of the.
So. Yeah, a lot of a lot of choir, a
lot of different pieces. And I think for the most part, I
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enjoyed it. You know, I, I don't think I
connected with people as much asI did with, you know, my sports
teams. But it was cool to, you know,
sing all these different, you know, songs.
And some of them I actually still listen to today because I
enjoyed them very much. So, yeah.
Choir, NHS sports, dog club and swimming and tennis was mostly
what I did in high school. Looking back on which I did did
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do a little more, but you know, I think when that's what college
is for and in college I feel like I got involved with
everything that, you know, I could do and especially that,
you know, helped with sports industry.
You know, I was a sport manager major and there was a bunch of
opportunities for that. So, you know, took advantage of
that in college. So you graduate from Downingtown
E senior year. What colleges did you consider?
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Yeah. So the beauty, I think what was
really unique is back in high school, and I don't know why,
but I was really interested in hospital hospitality management
at 1st. And I was actually looking at
schools that had both the hospitality and a sport
management program. And I was very lucky that
obviously since these are not aspopular in common majors, I
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mean, I was only looking at likemaybe a few schools.
So James Madison obviously was one of them.
University of Delaware was one afew state schools.
So Slippery Rock was one of them, Clarion University.
So, you know, do Pennsylvania folks know these schools?
I also had applied to Drexel, but I didn't really want to live
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in the city. I didn't want to.
I wanted more of a college campus feel rather than a, you
know, college campus, you know, busy city kind of feel.
So. And then there was a few other
schools, like I applied to UMassAmherst, but I had no intentions
of going to, you know, the New England region.
But but yeah, I was pawing through schools.
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You know, I did all these visitsand it came down to James Mass
in Delaware because not only were they, you know, great
programs, but they also had likea good distance.
I didn't want to go anywhere too, too far away.
I wanted to keep it within a, you know, 5 to 6 hour driving
radius so I could easily come back home for holidays and
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visits with my family. But what I loved about James
Madison, I mean, I would go downthere and you know, they have
those orientation that's specific towards your major.
So you're getting to meet professors, you're going to meet
students that were a part of theprogram at the time.
And when talking to them and learning about the curriculum,
they, they really had all these,everyone was talk about all
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these different experiences, like they were going to this PGA
Tour to help volunteer, you know, they were visiting, you
know, the Capitals and the Wizards and gain internships and
all these jobs with them. And even the professors, they,
they connected with you. They wanted to get to know you
personally. And I just felt, I felt that
this this was a golden opportunity because I mean,
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you're in the DMV area. There's a lot of different, you
know, sporting organizations andteams that you can get off with.
And then when I visited Delaware, I mean, Delaware was
great. I mean, Del was also a great
program, but I did feel I didn'tfeel that connection as much
with the professors in the curriculum as much as I did with
James Madison. So when I got accepted into
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James Madison, I was waiting forDelaware, got wait listed by
them. And that after, you know, a
couple of discussions with my family, I ended up saying, you
know what, I feel confident about James Madison, you know,
submit, submit the whatever. I forget what it's called where
you just submit. Like, yes, I'm going to go here
to. Yeah.
Like a letter of intent or something.
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Yeah, Letter of intent, I believe that's what it's called.
And again, the rest of his history ended up going there for
four years and can say without doubt one of the best decisions
I made. James Besson Harrisburg is was
awesome. Loved the curriculum, you know,
loved the professors. I still talk to them to this
day. And, you know, met some of my
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lifelong friends. So, you know, it was it was a
long process that I've heard stressful going through the
whole high school application process and doing the Sats and
all that. But in the end, it was it was
well worth it. So you decided to go to James
Madison University down in Virginia.
Yes. Get some water in you.
That was that was a good, that was good, man.
You did great. And you decide to go to James
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Madison down in Virginia. And Colin, tell us about a
little bit more about your experience at James Madison.
I mean, it's, it's a great university by all means.
Oh for sure. I mean, you know, no bias, but
definitely is. I mean the names the royal, the
the Dukes for a reason. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Yeah.
So James Manson, I mean, it's, yeah, there's a school of 20,000
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people and it's continuously growing the school.
I mean, every year there's a different building or something,
you know, again, constructed there.
But what I loved about it, what about James Besser, was there
was just something there for everybody.
I mean, I got involved with ClubHand.
You know, they're like the Olympic handball that you see in
the Olympics. I got involved with the club
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team there, played for four years and easily.
So much fun. I mean, I got to learn about the
sport, got to be the goalie and,you know, meet all these great
guys and connect with everybody and even with the school.
I mean there's just something toevery weekend there was some
sort of watch party where it was, you know, watching your GMU
play, you know, and I would go to all the home athletic events.
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I mean GMU football is probably like the one that everyone kind
of knows about. You know, they recently
transitioned from FCSFBSI mean they've just been a successful
program and every every home game went with my friends, with
my friends side. We made a pack.
Always go to all the home games and stay throughout the end of
the game. So, you know, the, the, the
Saturday college football Saturdays were always a blast to
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go to. But you know, the thing about
things about it was it's just somuch fun.
It's a big school. You know, there's a main campus
and then they recently built East campus.
So you just have to cross this bridge to get over to the new
campus. And it's a it's a walkable
campus. It's beautiful.
You know, it's right by the Shandoah Mountains.
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So, you know, if you're standingon the top of the East campus,
you can get a beautiful view of the mountains.
And it's just also a great walkable campus too.
I mean, I walk through there allthe time and, you know, there's
different places that you can go.
And you know, the downtown Harrisonburg is great too.
There's great, you know, bar settings that that's your thing.
You know, there's restaurants and Jack Brown's, if anyone ever
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goes there, Brian, if you go there, Jack Brown's burgers,
best burgers I've I've ever had.So you know, it's they only get
like there's only like 8 or 9 burgers and they have like a
burger per day. It's probably the smallest menu
you'll ever see, but it's well worth it.
They make some nice juicy burgers.
So if you ever get a chance, youknow, get a, you get got to get
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some of those Jack Brown burgers.
But obviously, but it was just fun.
I mean, I love the curriculum there.
I mean, it was great to balance my.
Time between all these fun activities and, you know, get
the. I mean, obviously James Madison
is also near the the mountains and the abundant nature trail.
So, you know, I took advantage of that as well.
So yeah, I just love to have James Madison.
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There was just something there for everyone.
And, you know, there was just something, whether it's sports,
whether it's, you know, part of my sport management program that
allowed me to go on all these learning and experiential trips.
But it was just a blast to go there for four years.
And if I could go do it again, Iwould definitely do.
And sometimes I miss going to being a college student.
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Not the work of it though, but you know, miss the, you know,
the college student experience. So Colin, after James Madison,
it was starting to you're starting to get ready for the
professional world. You're looking for internships,
you're looking at, hey, career path, what am I going to do with
my degree? What did you decide to do?
So at first when I in my part ofmy curriculum, so at GMU, you do
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this thing called a practicum. So it's basically a minimized
version of an internship where you work about 80 hours for a
semester and typically you do this with a department at James
Madison. So I did this in my sophomore
year with Jamie Facilities and Event Management because
originally I thought, I don't know, maybe like event
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management seems kind of cool. You know, I did some event
management back in high school then.
So maybe, you know, this would be my thing.
Unfortunately, this was kind of rad.
This was in the fall of 2020. So obviously, you know, Covid's
happening. There's there's really no events
happening. So a lot of that experience was
maybe putting like helping set up, you know, chairs and tables
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for a couple events. But a lot of it was just kind of
your basic office tasks. And I think unfortunately, just
because of a pandemic hindering the experience, I guess because
of that, my, my likeability and my interest for the event
management slowly declined afterthat.
So head to the summer my junior year, you know, I'm taking a
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sport marketing class that's part of the JMU curriculum and
I'm really getting a treat back.I'm really loving about how, you
know, teams use all these different types of marketing
social media to really promote their brand and promote their
awareness. And I'm thinking, OK, this is
pretty cool. You know, during the class we do
all these cool like social mediapromotion challenge assignments.
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You know, we had a project that was pick an NBA player and show
me how you're going to, you know, communicate and market
this guy so he could be, you know, big brand in the NBA.
And, you know, as I was getting the summer, this was when I had
to do my internship. So it was about 400 hours for
internship credit. And I'm applying to obviously a
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lot of baseball teams because it's a summer.
I wanted to get involved and I'ma big baseball fan myself.
So I'm wanting to, you know, stay close to home and play
baseball or, you know, help out with baseball.
And saw the Lancaster Barnstormers pop up along with a
few of my early teams. And I funny enough, I really
didn't really know about the Barnstormers, even the homeland,
like an hour away from it. You know, I never really went
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any gays prior to this, but I gothere, I interview with Alex
Bond and I get the the the internship and that summer was
really fun in the sense of I wasput in all these different
aspects. So I was doing ticketing stuff
in event management. And then I was also part of, you
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know, the in game storm squad where I was working with you,
Brian and Ed, the legend Ed and you're putting all the on the
all on these promotions. And slowly but surely I was
loving being a part of the eightgame promotional squad because
every game, all the interns justgot like different assignments.
So you were doing something different every game in the
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beginning, whether is helping with the 50, the raffle, helping
with the kids zone, helping withthe Storm squad, you get the
idea. And Alex and Ed, they both
trying to, you know, put a lot of passion.
I had a real drive for the in game promotion squad.
You know, I was putting a lot ofenergy and passion into the
T-shirt tosses, you know, the, the dance cans we were doing.
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And I remember going there. I said, hey, I really, I really
enjoyed this. Can you, you know, would I be
able to do the, you know, get the swarm squat positions more?
And, you know, really think my thanks to them because they they
put me on there for a lot of therest of the games halfway
through the summer season. And it was just a blast.
I mean, I got to work with Ed and I got to, you know, do all
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these fun activities and everyone was starting to take
note of it. And eventually towards the end,
Ed came to me and had said, Hey,what do you think of like being
an MC? And at first I'm thinking, you
know, I'm not the greatest like public talker speaker in the
world. So I'm thinking, I don't know,
man, like, I mean, me on a mic in front of a few 1000 people.
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I don't know, man, not my Forte,but I started to do it and I, I
started to kind of like really watch Ed what he was doing and
how he kind of did the rhythm ofall these in game promotions.
And eventually I started doing acouple, all of, you know, a few
of them here and there. And then towards the end, I
mean, I was trying to just, you know, take you take it over
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them. So, you know, kind of like, you
know what you do, Brian now withthe the rail riders up in
Scranton. But yeah, it was it was just
great. It was easily probably, it was
one of my favorite summers, probably even to this day,
probably one of my favorite jobsever.
I just connected with so many people and built so many
relationships and really kind offound realized, yeah, OK, this
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is this is definitely what I need to do.
I need to work working like the promotions and the marketing
side of things. And yeah, after the the
internship that was that would go into my senior year of
college and, you know, start applying for fan engagement
marketing assistant positions. Was able to land one with JMU
post grad. And you know, and then after a
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year there, let me hear a Drake.So maybe I got to give all my
thanks to the Stormers because Ithink if I hadn't joined them, I
don't think I would be in this position.
I don't think I would be anywhere near marketing
department athletics and collegeathletics in general.
So definitely build my interestsand pave the way, you know, to
get to where I am now. It's incredible, dude.
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I mean, like I said, that summer, you, you dominated, you
kicked butt. And that's the one thing and I,
I mean, I see it sometimes with Scranton, but the, you are
always the one that I, I think of the most when you say about
storm squad. Ours is the pinstripe patrol,
Colin, because you were there myfirst year of ever being like a
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hype guy. And I mean, but you had it.
You had that dog mentality that I constantly am telling these
young kids like, Hey, you can dowhatever you like.
If you want to be something likeif you really have to push it,
you really have to want it. And you, you want to dominate at
whatever you do. And I personally, I, I got this
always told to me, you want to be the best in the world at
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whatever you do. And I'm not trying to bring the
wrestling into it cuz that's what CM Punk always said.
But if you're going to do something, you want to be the
best in the world at whatever itis.
And at least in my case, you want, I learned from good ones.
I had Ed just like you learned Ed and I had Bob Howard from the
Hershey Bears. He was, he's the hype guy there
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for over 10 years now. And I mean, they're went and
called their cops left and right.
And now I mean, you, you learn from Ed and you did very well.
You like you said, you weren't really a big public speaker and
then eventually you're performing in front of thousands
of people. So I mean, like when I think of
intern, like you are the intern,I think of all the time.
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Like seriously, I wish there waslike 10 to 15 of you every year.
I mean, because you just put yougrind it every stinking day,
man. You grind it.
And you, you always had a smile on your face.
I know Bun's super proud of all that you're doing.
I know Ed is because Ed always tells me whenever we talk to
talk to you. And but man, yeah, that summer
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was awesome. You, you really kicked butt.
And I mean, you finished that JMU and now you're at Drake
University. Tell us about Drake, because I
I'm going to be honest with you,besides you working there, I
don't know much about them myself.
For sure. I mean, and honestly, I didn't
know much about Drake, you know,before I even worked here.
But yeah, Drake is it's a small,small Division One school in Des
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Moines. So it's right, right at the
outskirts of the city. So I'm obviously like an 8 bit
drive from downtown Des Moines and 8 minutes from Drake.
It's just on just over a little over 4000 undergrads.
So big difference from the 20,000 at James Madison, 4000 at
Drake. They we compete in the Missouri
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Valley Conference. So we're going against schools
like Northern Iowa, Murray State, Belmont, all these other
schools that are kind of spread around the Midwest and the
Missouri Valley. And we, we obviously I think a
lot of people probably know about us, especially this year
because of basketball. We are men's basketball program
has reached the ancillary tournament through the last four
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years and this year we ended up making it to the second round
and and the women's basketball team has also been a part of
than silly tournament last year's.
But other than other than the basketball teams, I mean there's
so many other sports that Drake is just really excelled at.
I mean soccer, men's soccer, I mean men's soccer, we've have
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have been nationally ranked at some points in the last few
years. You know, we've almost competed
for a conference championships. We've reached the N silly
tournament Drake football. Probably a lot of people don't
know, but we compete in the Pioneer Football Football
League. And for those that don't know
about the Pioneer Football League, it's a conference where
it's a non scholarship conference.
So a lot of the schools in this conference, so Butler, Davidson,
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Maris all and and Drake, obviously a lot of these guys
are not on like a full athletic scholarship.
I mean, they, maybe they have academic scholarship, but
they're not getting these full rides that you see at like the
Power 5 and the FBS conference. And, and it's been, it's crazy.
I mean, it's when I first got here, the team was bad.
And now in the last, we've won atitle the last two or three
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years and we've reached the FCS playoffs.
And slowly but surely we've usedthat to build a band support
around the team, increase attendance and ticket sales.
And I mean, and other than that,I mean, we, I mean, not this
year, but in the 2023-2024 year,we won the NBC All Sports
Championships. So what that entails is it, it
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takes all the sports of the Missouri Valley Conference and
each team when they finish in a place, they finish in their
conference innings or the conference championships, they
get points for each for whateverplace they're in.
So it's, I think it's like 30 points first place, 20 points
2nd place to get the idea. And whoever accumulates the most
points at the end of the athletic season ends up, you
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know, winning, getting, winning the title.
And last year we end up winning that title for the first time,
not just the first time in school history, but we were also
the first private school since the 1970s to win that.
So a lot of, a lot of big thingsto happen at Drake.
You know, it's and it's, it's tough because obviously like
you're in a big market like Des Moines, but you're a smaller
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school. And in Des Moines you're also
competing with all these professional sports.
You know, we have a minor leaguehockey team, the Iowa Wild, Iowa
Wolves, the Iowa Cubs, all theseare, you know, teams.
And in the state of Iowa, you know, obviously there's bigger
schools. You know, you got Iowa, Iowa
State and you and I, I mean, I can't tell how many times I go
through Des Moines and everyone's wearing Iowa State or
Iowa's, but you know, but what we do here as a staff at Drake
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is we, we do our best to competeand use that to connect with our
community. You know, we, we promote, you
know, our events and we try to, you know, do things that are
different from Iowa and Iowa State that, you know, maybe we
don't don't have all these big giveaways, but we can do themes
that connect with our team. So for example, I mean
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basketball, we have this thing called the hometown team
weekend. So from Friday to Sunday in a
weekend in February, you know, basketball plays every day.
So we got a men's team play, excuse me, women's play Friday,
men play Saturday, women play Sunday.
We wear these unique Des Moines themed jerseys with the Des
Moines skyline. And but the But the thing about
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the Des Moines hometown team. So we always try to do something
that connects with the Des Moines community.
So one year we worked with all of our high schools and we got
their basketball jerseys and theplayers would wear their high
school jerseys during, during warmups.
And then all the high school teams, we they came out, we got
pictures with them and, you know, they were able to meet and
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greet with the players as well. And then this year we were able
to get local Des Moines artist to come to our new atrium where
this is big area when you walk into the arena and there's a
hall of honor of like all these great Drake athletes and Drake's
successes. And we use that new atrium today
to have like almost a little concert, a pregame concert
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before the game. And yeah, so we're always trying
to do, we're trying to see like what we can do to go the extra
mile. And you know, I mean, this year
we've been able to utilize new video ward features.
You know, we got a new green board and we build new stadiums
and facilities. So we've been doing so many,
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we've just been able to really promote the Drake brand and, you
know, get the get the Des Moinescommunity out there, but not,
and not just the Des Moines community, but people from
nationwide being able to come tothese games and, you know,
understand the Drake brand and you know, it's led to LED great
successes. I mean, you know, if you don't
know about Drake, you know you'll get to know about it
because, you know, every programwe have here is successful in
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some way. We win championships and it's
close proximity. I mean, anywhere in Iowa, you
know, it's very close to Des Moines and it's also horrible,
you know, compared to these, youknow, Iowa State and Iowa
prices. I was also going to ask you
because we are getting close to the end of our time, how is Des
Moines, IA, What's the environment like there?
That's awesome, man. I mean, what I love about Des
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Moines is wherever you go, it's just it's a quick 10 or 15
minute drive. Seriously.
I mean, you want to go to the downtown and, you know, explore
the downtown restaurants and downtown, you know, activities.
It's only like a 7-8 minute drive.
You know, you want to go see theIowa Cubs baseball team.
You want to see all these the, the Des Moines Bucks hockey team
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aisle wild right there. And, and you know, you want to
go on some trails and walking past there's walking past just 5
or 6 minutes away. What I love about Des Moines is
it kind of reminds me of GMU where there's something here,
you know, they, any, anywhere you go, there's something that's
going to fill your interest and there's events happening all
around town. So, you know, if you're, you
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know, you're someone that likes to get off the couch and, you
know, wants to go do something, you know, in the community on a
weekend, there's something there, whether it's a concert,
whether it's theaters, whether it's movies, it's and that's why
I just love Edmond. I mean, I, I always try to
explore it. I mean, I've been here for two
years and I'm still exploring different restaurants in
different areas and it's, it's agreat time.
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So if you guys any, if anyone isever interested in heading down
in the morning or is like, I'm not sure should I go there?
Definitely go because I'm telling you after a few days,
you'll definitely, you'll definitely want to come back to
Des Moines. And, you know, I think I don't
want to speak for my family members who have to come down
and visit me in Des Moines, but they they like Des Moines and
you know, they've never really, you know, they're usually not
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big city people. So, yeah, I think that that
tells you, I think that if that doesn't tell you to go get to
visit Des Moines sometime, you know, I don't know.
Few questions, easy ones for you.
First of all, Colin, do you haveanything you want to say to the
people in Downingtown? Yeah, I mean, you know, I, I, I
guess I kind of have to thank them in a way, you know, I mean,
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Danktown really kind of shaped, you know what I mean?
I mean, for whether it was Danktown E, you know what I
mean, or whether it was, you know, my coaches, Becky Desmond,
Coach Wade Shunis, I mean, everyone there had kind of
played a role. And I mean, maybe they don't
think of it, but you know, when it came from tennis, I mean, you
know, working coaching me in tennis kind of helped me learn
discipline, you know, learn how to coach others.
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You know, my interns. I mean, obviously we're not
we're coaching different things.I mean, there's a difference
between sports and coaching different tasks, but you know,
to them to install and still, you know, coaching abilities in
me. It's helped me be able to, you
know, teach it in my in my interns.
And my interns have been able to, you know, be successful and
get jobs. And I think, you know, if I
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didn't have that experience, youknow, being coached and taught,
you know, from the people at Downingtown, I don't think I
would have been able to, you know, really help teach, you
know, my interns and, you know, continue teaching.
And so I honestly think I also think Dankas is great.
I mean, I've been very blessed and lucky that Dank Chinese is
one of the one of the better high schools in the state of PA.
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And, you know, they've given youa lot of opportunities to get
involved and be involved with these activities.
And, you know, I think that if Idid go to as great of a high
school that had as good rankingsand ratings as Dank Chinese, I
don't know if I would be in thisposition.
I don't know if I would be goingto James Bassett or even being
interested in sport management. So yeah, I do have to give my my
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praise and my appreciation to Dye Town because, you know, even
if it was just like little smallacts of kindness or a little
small, you know, small abilities, you know, they've
helped me shape my way to, you know, getting here.
So Chad, to you guys. I mean, hopefully I can come
back there at some point this summer.
I'm trying to go back there and,you know, see my family,
everything. But yeah, dying town, great
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plays and, you know, you guys have really helped me out here
and, you know, shaped me who I am.
All right, Colin, two final questions.
First one is what goals do you have for yourself?
Yeah, my, one of my big next goals is I want to, I want to be
a director. You know, I've always been this
assistant director or, you know,not, you know, directorial role,
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but I want to be able to take that leap and be a director, you
know, Division One college and run their athletics marketing
department, whether it's a smallschool like Drake or Yeah, I
think my next step would be at asmaller school like Drake, you
know, maybe one of those group of five schools and then
eventually work my way up to, you know, being the director at
a big school like Penn State, the United State, you know,
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those types of schools. And, you know, it's it's a time
assuming process. I mean, I don't think I need to
speak for anyone that, you know,applications are, you know,
processes and, you know, there'srejection.
There's it's the process. But I think, you know, I've been
able to really connect well and I've been able to put up put up
all these, you know, great learning abilities and marketing
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campaigns here at Drake that I think will help propel my
career. And, you know, just going to
continue to learn and, you know,continuous Dr. and, you know,
you know, reach for goals and, you know, do do you go the extra
mile? And eventually, you know, that
will lead me to a directorial. Final question for you, Colin,
what advice would you have for ayoung person looking to get into
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the sports management marketing field?
Yeah, connections and getting involved.
I mean, there's a, you know, there's internships all around.
I mean, there's, you know, there's every sports team is
looking for like volunteers and even if it's a small like little
position, like, you know, helping out with the
concessions, I mean, you can build that into a career.
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You know, you just got to put that extra mile in, you got to
make the connections. I mean and.
You know, don't just do the bareminimum.
I mean, I think the big reason why I found success with the
Barnstormers or the Stormers nowis I did more than what was just
asking me. I mean, yeah, they, they would
give you like all these tasks, but I would be like, hey, can I
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do this? Can I do more?
And professor people, your bosses and your employees,
employers, if you see, they see that they're won't they see that
you're going the extra mile and you know, you're going above and
beyond. It's going to separate you from
a load of of candidates and potential, you know, workers
because they'll see hey, oh, youknow, he he's doing this storm
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squad, but like he's going out there and he's putting all this
energy into it, you know, for example.
I mean, they're going to notice somebody like, hey, you know,
maybe we should, you know, be giving him, you know, higher
roles and the more roles you get, you know, more chance to
get promoted. And then, you know, when it
comes time to applying for jobs,I mean, you're going to have
that connections and you're going to have those references
that are going to speak very highly of you.
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And eventually that did their references could be the
difference between you, you know, getting the job and that
they're beating someone out thatwas also applying for that job.
So my voice is to get involved. I mean, at JMUI was volunteering
with a bunch of different departments and you know, our
curriculum had offered all thesedifferent opportunities like,
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Hey, come help out a youth baseball tournament this
weekend, come help out with thislittle festival, youth festival.
And I would sign up for it. And they took note of that
because they know that they, they would see that had the
willingness to learn and willingness to go above and
beyond and get to learn. So my advice is get started
early, you know, go above and beyond and take advantage of
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any, any opportunities that and that are provided towards you.
Ladies and gentlemen, we want tothank Colin Salad from Drake
University for being here on theBryan Christiana Podcast.
Colin, thank you for spending some of your time with me here
today. Of course, man, thank you again
for having me and any if anyone's looking to connect with
me, feel free, you can check me out on LinkedIn connect.
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Feel free to ask me any questions, say hello, say
anything, but Brian can't take enough for allowing me to be on
your podcast. It was great to see you and talk
to you again. And, you know, keep up the good
work, man. Dude just trying to rock'n'roll
every day and you keep making usproud man.
Can't wait to see you on the bigstage one day.
For sure. Thank you ladies.
And gentlemen, again, want to thank Colin Saylor for being on
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to see you, my friend. It's awesome.
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Good. Good to see you, Brian.
It's been been too long. It's I'm very excited and
honored to, you know, be a guesthere on your podcast and thank
you for, you know, taking time out of your busy schedule to,
you know, have me on here and, you know, looking forward to him
and it's been too long. So ladies and gentlemen, Colin
is a very busy man. He's very young.
He's in the world of sports and in the NCAA.
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Colin, where are you at now? Yeah.
So I'm currently at Drake University, so in Des Moines,
IA, so very, very long ways away, my hometown Pennsylvania
and you know where we both worked with the the Stormers,
but I'm the assistant Director of athletics marketing there.
So I help promote all of our division wide varsity sports,
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whether that's contribute to thein game experience, being part
of the music there or promoting and posting social media
activity to promote anything nights or promotions to, you
know, help people get to our games, incentivize attendance.
So it's a smaller school. So a lot of it's a smaller
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department that I was used to before I was working at James
Madison University in Virginia prior and you know, it's even a
smaller department than where wewere working at the
Barnstormers. But it's a it's a great time and
you know, I've been able to, youknow, be a part of a lot of
different things to get my handson experience in different
aspects that, you know, I usually wouldn't expect from
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different positions. So yeah, it's, it's a fun time
and it keeps me busy throughout the year.
So right now it's a bit of a downtime.
We don't have any home events until the end of August when
football season gets underway. But you know, it's always,
always, it's always great. And you know, right now I'm just
enjoying some downtime while also preparing for next season.
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It's incredible, like what you're doing.
You're originally from Pennsylvania, like you said.
What part of Pennsylvania are you from?
So I am from Downingtown, PA, soI'm in the southeastern part of
Pennsylvania, about right outside of Philly.
So I'm about 30 on a on a good day of no traffic, maybe 40
minutes away from Philly, but weknow that's all rare.
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So it's probably about more of an hour.
And then I'm also about an hour away from New Jersey, so right
on that very close to that border.
So Chester County more specifically, if that helps
anyone else in terms of location.
But yeah, I was born and raised there.
Went to Dyke Counties high school shuts the Cougars class
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2018 and then, yeah, then went to the College in Virginia.
But Pennsylvania born and raised.
So, Downingtown, can you tell usa little bit about Downingtown?
What, what did you do for fun? What did you do with your
family? Tell us about Downingtown.
Yeah, for sure. What I love about Downingtown
is, you know, it's a suburban area, so obviously there's a lot
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of shopping centers and malls. But I was very involved in
sports from a young age. My brother was a swimmer and I
got intrigued from swimming because of him.
So we, my hometown, my, my childhood home is right next to,
you know, the YMCA that we belong to my family and I belong
to. So we swam, I swam for the YMCA
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team from when I was a kid up until about high school.
And then we, there was tennis leagues all over the suburbs.
So every summer I was actually going to daddy tell W our
rivals. They had the the day at tennis
courts down there. And every summer I was a part of
our tennis league, so was competing in tournaments and
meets and matches all around thePennsylvania area.
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So was very involved in sports from a young age even did you
know youth baseball kind like what everyone else does.
You go to your local youth baseball association.
But other than that, what I really like to do is there's so
many hiking trails and places togo outside.
So my family and I, whenever I get together and we always go on
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some sort of a hike and we look at different trails around the
area. I mean, there's hundreds and
hundreds of trails around the area.
It's it's a fun time. And you know, it's it's the
Pennsylvania, the trails in nature is very beautiful,
especially during the spring andsummer and all year round,
honestly. So, yeah, again, grew up, you
know, going to sports and, you know, working there and
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eventually, you know, went to nature and trails and eventually
it was all good. So you know, it's a fun time.
What sports did you always have interest in?
Colin, you, you really stressed sports.
Yeah. So yeah, obviously I swam and I
play tennis, but it was even more fun as Pennsylvania is
great. I think what I really got into
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minor league sports specifically, you know, before I
worked, you know, you and I withthe Barnstormers is there's so
many different minor League Baseball teams around the area.
I mean, there's you've got running Fine Fields, Lehigh
Valley Iron Pigs, Lakewood, BlueClaws, Wilmington Blue Rocks,
and they're all within an hour the range of our hometown.
So a lot of us, you know, my family and I at least once
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summer would always go to one ofthese games and just, you know,
get the experience, the thrills and the family fun atmosphere of
my early baseball. I think that's one of my
earliest memories of early getting into, you know, sports
and baseball in general. And and yeah, I mean, every year
summer we would go on. I think a lot of that growing up
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and going to those games really kind of helped get my interest
into working with the barn summers and, you know, getting
an internship with them. Because, you know, I grew up
watching like all these different in game promotions,
all these different, you know, T-shirt tosses, hot dog tosses.
And for me to, and eventually when I had the opportunity to do
that back in 20 summer 2021 withthe Stormers, that it just
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brought back some great memoriesand it was actually fun to be
the ones to, you know, do all that silly and wacky stuff in
game. It's so incredible.
And I mean, like I, like you said, summer of 2021, we met
each other and you could tell Colin, you had a drive to you.
You had motivation. You really wanted to get into
the world of sports. And I mean, your parents, they
did a good job with you, man. They really did.
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It seems like they knew what they were doing that and they
had they they really put you on the right path at sea.
Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
I mean, you know, Chad, I can't can't express my love enough for
them. I mean, I could go on on on this
podcast, but you know, they definitely have supported and
just been a great round of support for me.
I mean, you know, we're when someone usually says that they
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want to pursue sports, I think sometimes there's a little like,
like, how's that going to work out?
But they even when, you know, from when I was considering
being a major and when I eventually went to James
Madison, majored in sports management, you know, from up
until now where I am at Drake, they've just been incredibly
supportive and even kind of helpme even find jobs, you know,
back then, you know, and with internships or anything, they've
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always been kind of supportive and helping me say, hey, look at
these jobs or look, find these job postings and try to help me.
So really means a lot. And I love them with all my
heart. And you know, they definitely
have helped me, shaped to be, shaped me to be who I am today.
The one thing you brought up in that I, I really, really sparked
an interest to me, it was you, you talked about some different
minor league teams and one of them, I mean, we'll talk about
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Lancaster for sure. But Reading, have you ever?
How often have you been to that stadium?
Yeah, so when I was when I was younger, I was going to at least
one game almost every summer. I mean, from when I was a young
elementary schooler to high school, obviously,
unfortunately, you know, would be living in the Midwest now.
The last few years it's been very and COVID been very tough
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for me to get back there. So I haven't been back there
since before COVID, I think now.But yeah, but we would go there
because it was only about half an hour, 40 minutes away from
our house. And, you know, obviously the,
the beauty of minor League Baseball is tickets are way
cheaper than the Major League prices, you know, which is I
think one of the big, probably the biggest reason why people
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come to Canes is just because ofall the cheap plans.
And you know, you don't have to spend all the Major League
prices. You know, you can get a hot dog
for cheap. You don't have to get a $10 hot
dog. You know, that kind of stuff.
Exactly. But no, we went we would go
there and you know, we would experience all the the joy and
the fun of it. I mean, you know, because, you
know, my parents always wanted me to like stay active and do
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stuff in the summer. And, you know, that was
something that, you know, all ofus kind of enjoyed, even like my
siblings who aren't as big a baseball fans or but it was a
fun time for everybody, you know, And one of the one of my
prize prize, one of the best moments was the writing Phillies
fighting fields. They have a mascot called the
crazy hot dog Bender. Brian might know that.
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I, I don't know if anyone else knows that, but there's a guy
that dresses up as like he, he dresses up in like, you know,
those early like ice cream suitswhere they're wearing like the
white suit and like a funny little Bender hat.
And he rides a inflatable ostrich.
And during like a couple, you know, a couple promotions in
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between, he has like a bunch of hot dogs and he just like chucks
them into the crowd. And it's it was it was awesome.
It's unique to the writing Feinfeld's identity.
And I think that was just fun towatch.
And, you know, one game, my dad snagged it one hand snagged a
hot dog and I was so proud. I just I ate that with so much
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pry. I remember that night so.
I love that. I love that.
Yeah, you got you look it up though.
You just look up crazy hot dog fendered.
You know, eventually if anyone here gets a chance, it's I'm
pretty sure they still do it. I mean, they probably, you know,
modernized it, you know, since the last time I went.
But it's, it's pretty funny and I think it's, it's one of the
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coolest, you know, promotions I've seen at a minor league
game. Calling out in reading if I'm
correct, they have a pool, don'tthey?
They do, yeah. They're so it's in right field
if I'm not mistaken. And I obviously it's one of
those, you know, you have to like book a suite, book a party
deck or whatever. And but yeah, they're it's it's
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right at the right field. It's really small.
I mean, it's not like, I think there's one team in Texas that
has like a full on like lazy pool that goes on for like all
around the outfield, but it's only, it's just a small pool in
the right field party deck. So, yeah, one of the one of the
very few minor league teams that, you know, has a pool
there, but you got you got to book it.
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You got to have like a large group to come out to it.
I never got to experience it because that's probably
obviously one of the more, you know, expensive options because
it's, you know, has all these little cool gadgets and, you
know, unique experiences. But yeah, definitely got a pool.
And, you know, they could, you know, they have a unique video
board as well. So, you know, if anyone lives in
that rain area, definitely go toit.
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You know, it's definitely a fun time regardless of how the team
performs on the field. So Colin, you, you went to
Downing, you're down from the Downingtown area, You said you
went to Downingtown, E, right? Yeah, correct.
And what other experiences did you have in high school?
Were you involved in any other activities besides, you said,
swimming and tennis? Anything else?
Yeah. So I was also involved in NHSI
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think, you know, a lot of lot ofkids were involved in NHS.
So whenever we had to do like volunteer opportunities or doing
community service stuff, I really helped out with that for
four years. I also did, you know, other
other clubs. So I mean, there was like a
sports talk club back in high school.
So a group of us kind of just talk sports.
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Unfortunately that kind didn't debut until my senior year.
So very kind of a short lived experience, but hopefully that's
still going strong. But yeah, mostly, mostly we just
got involved with sports. I mean, swimming and tennis kind
of took up a lot of my time, especially in the fall, winter.
And, you know, I was also, you know, splitting time with my
academics. And then also the other big
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thing I did was choir. I did choir for all four years
of high school. Part was men's choir, Yeah, the
regular concert choir and then masterworks.
So did that all four years. And that took up a lot of some
of my time too. So it was how it worked was I
took like a class, it was like amasterworks class.
And I took it like 2 out of the five school days a week.
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You know, we would rehearse and all that and he would.
And then for men's choir, I tried out for that.
And then that one was you would only be once a week for about
two hours, like Wednesday nights, I believe.
And yeah. So a lot of the.
So. Yeah, a lot of a lot of choir, a
lot of different pieces. And I think for the most part, I
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enjoyed it. You know, I, I don't think I
connected with people as much asI did with, you know, my sports
teams. But it was cool to, you know,
sing all these different, you know, songs.
And some of them I actually still listen to today because I
enjoyed them very much. So, yeah.
Choir, NHS sports, dog club and swimming and tennis was mostly
what I did in high school. Looking back on which I did did
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do a little more, but you know, I think when that's what college
is for and in college I feel like I got involved with
everything that, you know, I could do and especially that,
you know, helped with sports industry.
You know, I was a sport manager major and there was a bunch of
opportunities for that. So, you know, took advantage of
that in college. So you graduate from Downingtown
E senior year. What colleges did you consider?
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Yeah. So the beauty, I think what was
really unique is back in high school, and I don't know why,
but I was really interested in hospital hospitality management
at 1st. And I was actually looking at
schools that had both the hospitality and a sport
management program. And I was very lucky that
obviously since these are not aspopular in common majors, I
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mean, I was only looking at likemaybe a few schools.
So James Madison obviously was one of them.
University of Delaware was one afew state schools.
So Slippery Rock was one of them, Clarion University.
So, you know, do Pennsylvania folks know these schools?
I also had applied to Drexel, but I didn't really want to live
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in the city. I didn't want to.
I wanted more of a college campus feel rather than a, you
know, college campus, you know, busy city kind of feel.
So. And then there was a few other
schools, like I applied to UMassAmherst, but I had no intentions
of going to, you know, the New England region.
But but yeah, I was pawing through schools.
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You know, I did all these visitsand it came down to James Mass
in Delaware because not only were they, you know, great
programs, but they also had likea good distance.
I didn't want to go anywhere too, too far away.
I wanted to keep it within a, you know, 5 to 6 hour driving
radius so I could easily come back home for holidays and
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visits with my family. But what I loved about James
Madison, I mean, I would go downthere and you know, they have
those orientation that's specific towards your major.
So you're getting to meet professors, you're going to meet
students that were a part of theprogram at the time.
And when talking to them and learning about the curriculum,
they, they really had all these,everyone was talk about all
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these different experiences, like they were going to this PGA
Tour to help volunteer, you know, they were visiting, you
know, the Capitals and the Wizards and gain internships and
all these jobs with them. And even the professors, they,
they connected with you. They wanted to get to know you
personally. And I just felt, I felt that
this this was a golden opportunity because I mean,
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you're in the DMV area. There's a lot of different, you
know, sporting organizations andteams that you can get off with.
And then when I visited Delaware, I mean, Delaware was
great. I mean, Del was also a great
program, but I did feel I didn'tfeel that connection as much
with the professors in the curriculum as much as I did with
James Madison. So when I got accepted into
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James Madison, I was waiting forDelaware, got wait listed by
them. And that after, you know, a
couple of discussions with my family, I ended up saying, you
know what, I feel confident about James Madison, you know,
submit, submit the whatever. I forget what it's called where
you just submit. Like, yes, I'm going to go here
to. Yeah.
Like a letter of intent or something.
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Yeah, Letter of intent, I believe that's what it's called.
And again, the rest of his history ended up going there for
four years and can say without doubt one of the best decisions
I made. James Besson Harrisburg is was
awesome. Loved the curriculum, you know,
loved the professors. I still talk to them to this
day. And, you know, met some of my
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lifelong friends. So, you know, it was it was a
long process that I've heard stressful going through the
whole high school application process and doing the Sats and
all that. But in the end, it was it was
well worth it. So you decided to go to James
Madison University down in Virginia.
Yes. Get some water in you.
That was that was a good, that was good, man.
You did great. And you decide to go to James
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Madison down in Virginia. And Colin, tell us about a
little bit more about your experience at James Madison.
I mean, it's, it's a great university by all means.
Oh for sure. I mean, you know, no bias, but
definitely is. I mean the names the royal, the
the Dukes for a reason. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Yeah.
So James Manson, I mean, it's, yeah, there's a school of 20,000
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people and it's continuously growing the school.
I mean, every year there's a different building or something,
you know, again, constructed there.
But what I loved about it, what about James Besser, was there
was just something there for everybody.
I mean, I got involved with ClubHand.
You know, they're like the Olympic handball that you see in
the Olympics. I got involved with the club
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team there, played for four years and easily.
So much fun. I mean, I got to learn about the
sport, got to be the goalie and,you know, meet all these great
guys and connect with everybody and even with the school.
I mean there's just something toevery weekend there was some
sort of watch party where it was, you know, watching your GMU
play, you know, and I would go to all the home athletic events.
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I mean GMU football is probably like the one that everyone kind
of knows about. You know, they recently
transitioned from FCSFBSI mean they've just been a successful
program and every every home game went with my friends, with
my friends side. We made a pack.
Always go to all the home games and stay throughout the end of
the game. So, you know, the, the, the
Saturday college football Saturdays were always a blast to
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go to. But you know, the thing about
things about it was it's just somuch fun.
It's a big school. You know, there's a main campus
and then they recently built East campus.
So you just have to cross this bridge to get over to the new
campus. And it's a it's a walkable
campus. It's beautiful.
You know, it's right by the Shandoah Mountains.
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So, you know, if you're standingon the top of the East campus,
you can get a beautiful view of the mountains.
And it's just also a great walkable campus too.
I mean, I walk through there allthe time and, you know, there's
different places that you can go.
And you know, the downtown Harrisonburg is great too.
There's great, you know, bar settings that that's your thing.
You know, there's restaurants and Jack Brown's, if anyone ever
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goes there, Brian, if you go there, Jack Brown's burgers,
best burgers I've I've ever had.So you know, it's they only get
like there's only like 8 or 9 burgers and they have like a
burger per day. It's probably the smallest menu
you'll ever see, but it's well worth it.
They make some nice juicy burgers.
So if you ever get a chance, youknow, get a, you get got to get
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some of those Jack Brown burgers.
But obviously, but it was just fun.
I mean, I love the curriculum there.
I mean, it was great to balance my.
Time between all these fun activities and, you know, get
the. I mean, obviously James Madison
is also near the the mountains and the abundant nature trail.
So, you know, I took advantage of that as well.
So yeah, I just love to have James Madison.
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There was just something there for everyone.
And, you know, there was just something, whether it's sports,
whether it's, you know, part of my sport management program that
allowed me to go on all these learning and experiential trips.
But it was just a blast to go there for four years.
And if I could go do it again, Iwould definitely do.
And sometimes I miss going to being a college student.
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Not the work of it though, but you know, miss the, you know,
the college student experience. So Colin, after James Madison,
it was starting to you're starting to get ready for the
professional world. You're looking for internships,
you're looking at, hey, career path, what am I going to do with
my degree? What did you decide to do?
So at first when I in my part ofmy curriculum, so at GMU, you do
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this thing called a practicum. So it's basically a minimized
version of an internship where you work about 80 hours for a
semester and typically you do this with a department at James
Madison. So I did this in my sophomore
year with Jamie Facilities and Event Management because
originally I thought, I don't know, maybe like event
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management seems kind of cool. You know, I did some event
management back in high school then.
So maybe, you know, this would be my thing.
Unfortunately, this was kind of rad.
This was in the fall of 2020. So obviously, you know, Covid's
happening. There's there's really no events
happening. So a lot of that experience was
maybe putting like helping set up, you know, chairs and tables
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for a couple events. But a lot of it was just kind of
your basic office tasks. And I think unfortunately, just
because of a pandemic hindering the experience, I guess because
of that, my, my likeability and my interest for the event
management slowly declined afterthat.
So head to the summer my junior year, you know, I'm taking a
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sport marketing class that's part of the JMU curriculum and
I'm really getting a treat back.I'm really loving about how, you
know, teams use all these different types of marketing
social media to really promote their brand and promote their
awareness. And I'm thinking, OK, this is
pretty cool. You know, during the class we do
all these cool like social mediapromotion challenge assignments.
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You know, we had a project that was pick an NBA player and show
me how you're going to, you know, communicate and market
this guy so he could be, you know, big brand in the NBA.
And, you know, as I was getting the summer, this was when I had
to do my internship. So it was about 400 hours for
internship credit. And I'm applying to obviously a
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lot of baseball teams because it's a summer.
I wanted to get involved and I'ma big baseball fan myself.
So I'm wanting to, you know, stay close to home and play
baseball or, you know, help out with baseball.
And saw the Lancaster Barnstormers pop up along with a
few of my early teams. And I funny enough, I really
didn't really know about the Barnstormers, even the homeland,
like an hour away from it. You know, I never really went
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any gays prior to this, but I gothere, I interview with Alex
Bond and I get the the the internship and that summer was
really fun in the sense of I wasput in all these different
aspects. So I was doing ticketing stuff
in event management. And then I was also part of, you
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know, the in game storm squad where I was working with you,
Brian and Ed, the legend Ed and you're putting all the on the
all on these promotions. And slowly but surely I was
loving being a part of the eightgame promotional squad because
every game, all the interns justgot like different assignments.
So you were doing something different every game in the
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beginning, whether is helping with the 50, the raffle, helping
with the kids zone, helping withthe Storm squad, you get the
idea. And Alex and Ed, they both
trying to, you know, put a lot of passion.
I had a real drive for the in game promotion squad.
You know, I was putting a lot ofenergy and passion into the
T-shirt tosses, you know, the, the dance cans we were doing.
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And I remember going there. I said, hey, I really, I really
enjoyed this. Can you, you know, would I be
able to do the, you know, get the swarm squat positions more?
And, you know, really think my thanks to them because they they
put me on there for a lot of therest of the games halfway
through the summer season. And it was just a blast.
I mean, I got to work with Ed and I got to, you know, do all
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these fun activities and everyone was starting to take
note of it. And eventually towards the end,
Ed came to me and had said, Hey,what do you think of like being
an MC? And at first I'm thinking, you
know, I'm not the greatest like public talker speaker in the
world. So I'm thinking, I don't know,
man, like, I mean, me on a mic in front of a few 1000 people.
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I don't know, man, not my Forte,but I started to do it and I, I
started to kind of like really watch Ed what he was doing and
how he kind of did the rhythm ofall these in game promotions.
And eventually I started doing acouple, all of, you know, a few
of them here and there. And then towards the end, I
mean, I was trying to just, you know, take you take it over
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them. So, you know, kind of like, you
know what you do, Brian now withthe the rail riders up in
Scranton. But yeah, it was it was just
great. It was easily probably, it was
one of my favorite summers, probably even to this day,
probably one of my favorite jobsever.
I just connected with so many people and built so many
relationships and really kind offound realized, yeah, OK, this
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is this is definitely what I need to do.
I need to work working like the promotions and the marketing
side of things. And yeah, after the the
internship that was that would go into my senior year of
college and, you know, start applying for fan engagement
marketing assistant positions. Was able to land one with JMU
post grad. And you know, and then after a
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year there, let me hear a Drake.So maybe I got to give all my
thanks to the Stormers because Ithink if I hadn't joined them, I
don't think I would be in this position.
I don't think I would be anywhere near marketing
department athletics and collegeathletics in general.
So definitely build my interestsand pave the way, you know, to
get to where I am now. It's incredible, dude.
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I mean, like I said, that summer, you, you dominated, you
kicked butt. And that's the one thing and I,
I mean, I see it sometimes with Scranton, but the, you are
always the one that I, I think of the most when you say about
storm squad. Ours is the pinstripe patrol,
Colin, because you were there myfirst year of ever being like a
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hype guy. And I mean, but you had it.
You had that dog mentality that I constantly am telling these
young kids like, Hey, you can dowhatever you like.
If you want to be something likeif you really have to push it,
you really have to want it. And you, you want to dominate at
whatever you do. And I personally, I, I got this
always told to me, you want to be the best in the world at
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whatever you do. And I'm not trying to bring the
wrestling into it cuz that's what CM Punk always said.
But if you're going to do something, you want to be the
best in the world at whatever itis.
And at least in my case, you want, I learned from good ones.
I had Ed just like you learned Ed and I had Bob Howard from the
Hershey Bears. He was, he's the hype guy there
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for over 10 years now. And I mean, they're went and
called their cops left and right.
And now I mean, you, you learn from Ed and you did very well.
You like you said, you weren't really a big public speaker and
then eventually you're performing in front of thousands
of people. So I mean, like when I think of
intern, like you are the intern,I think of all the time.
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Like seriously, I wish there waslike 10 to 15 of you every year.
I mean, because you just put yougrind it every stinking day,
man. You grind it.
And you, you always had a smile on your face.
I know Bun's super proud of all that you're doing.
I know Ed is because Ed always tells me whenever we talk to
talk to you. And but man, yeah, that summer
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was awesome. You, you really kicked butt.
And I mean, you finished that JMU and now you're at Drake
University. Tell us about Drake, because I
I'm going to be honest with you,besides you working there, I
don't know much about them myself.
For sure. I mean, and honestly, I didn't
know much about Drake, you know,before I even worked here.
But yeah, Drake is it's a small,small Division One school in Des
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Moines. So it's right, right at the
outskirts of the city. So I'm obviously like an 8 bit
drive from downtown Des Moines and 8 minutes from Drake.
It's just on just over a little over 4000 undergrads.
So big difference from the 20,000 at James Madison, 4000 at
Drake. They we compete in the Missouri
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Valley Conference. So we're going against schools
like Northern Iowa, Murray State, Belmont, all these other
schools that are kind of spread around the Midwest and the
Missouri Valley. And we, we obviously I think a
lot of people probably know about us, especially this year
because of basketball. We are men's basketball program
has reached the ancillary tournament through the last four
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years and this year we ended up making it to the second round
and and the women's basketball team has also been a part of
than silly tournament last year's.
But other than other than the basketball teams, I mean there's
so many other sports that Drake is just really excelled at.
I mean soccer, men's soccer, I mean men's soccer, we've have
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have been nationally ranked at some points in the last few
years. You know, we've almost competed
for a conference championships. We've reached the N silly
tournament Drake football. Probably a lot of people don't
know, but we compete in the Pioneer Football Football
League. And for those that don't know
about the Pioneer Football League, it's a conference where
it's a non scholarship conference.
So a lot of the schools in this conference, so Butler, Davidson,
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Maris all and and Drake, obviously a lot of these guys
are not on like a full athletic scholarship.
I mean, they, maybe they have academic scholarship, but
they're not getting these full rides that you see at like the
Power 5 and the FBS conference. And, and it's been, it's crazy.
I mean, it's when I first got here, the team was bad.
And now in the last, we've won atitle the last two or three
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years and we've reached the FCS playoffs.
And slowly but surely we've usedthat to build a band support
around the team, increase attendance and ticket sales.
And I mean, and other than that,I mean, we, I mean, not this
year, but in the 2023-2024 year,we won the NBC All Sports
Championships. So what that entails is it, it
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takes all the sports of the Missouri Valley Conference and
each team when they finish in a place, they finish in their
conference innings or the conference championships, they
get points for each for whateverplace they're in.
So it's, I think it's like 30 points first place, 20 points
2nd place to get the idea. And whoever accumulates the most
points at the end of the athletic season ends up, you
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know, winning, getting, winning the title.
And last year we end up winning that title for the first time,
not just the first time in school history, but we were also
the first private school since the 1970s to win that.
So a lot of, a lot of big thingsto happen at Drake.
You know, it's and it's, it's tough because obviously like
you're in a big market like Des Moines, but you're a smaller
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school. And in Des Moines you're also
competing with all these professional sports.
You know, we have a minor leaguehockey team, the Iowa Wild, Iowa
Wolves, the Iowa Cubs, all theseare, you know, teams.
And in the state of Iowa, you know, obviously there's bigger
schools. You know, you got Iowa, Iowa
State and you and I, I mean, I can't tell how many times I go
through Des Moines and everyone's wearing Iowa State or
Iowa's, but you know, but what we do here as a staff at Drake
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is we, we do our best to competeand use that to connect with our
community. You know, we, we promote, you
know, our events and we try to, you know, do things that are
different from Iowa and Iowa State that, you know, maybe we
don't don't have all these big giveaways, but we can do themes
that connect with our team. So for example, I mean
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basketball, we have this thing called the hometown team
weekend. So from Friday to Sunday in a
weekend in February, you know, basketball plays every day.
So we got a men's team play, excuse me, women's play Friday,
men play Saturday, women play Sunday.
We wear these unique Des Moines themed jerseys with the Des
Moines skyline. And but the But the thing about
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the Des Moines hometown team. So we always try to do something
that connects with the Des Moines community.
So one year we worked with all of our high schools and we got
their basketball jerseys and theplayers would wear their high
school jerseys during, during warmups.
And then all the high school teams, we they came out, we got
pictures with them and, you know, they were able to meet and
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greet with the players as well. And then this year we were able
to get local Des Moines artist to come to our new atrium where
this is big area when you walk into the arena and there's a
hall of honor of like all these great Drake athletes and Drake's
successes. And we use that new atrium today
to have like almost a little concert, a pregame concert
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before the game. And yeah, so we're always trying
to do, we're trying to see like what we can do to go the extra
mile. And you know, I mean, this year
we've been able to utilize new video ward features.
You know, we got a new green board and we build new stadiums
and facilities. So we've been doing so many,
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we've just been able to really promote the Drake brand and, you
know, get the get the Des Moinescommunity out there, but not,
and not just the Des Moines community, but people from
nationwide being able to come tothese games and, you know,
understand the Drake brand and you know, it's led to LED great
successes. I mean, you know, if you don't
know about Drake, you know you'll get to know about it
because, you know, every programwe have here is successful in
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some way. We win championships and it's
close proximity. I mean, anywhere in Iowa, you
know, it's very close to Des Moines and it's also horrible,
you know, compared to these, youknow, Iowa State and Iowa
prices. I was also going to ask you
because we are getting close to the end of our time, how is Des
Moines, IA, What's the environment like there?
That's awesome, man. I mean, what I love about Des
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Moines is wherever you go, it's just it's a quick 10 or 15
minute drive. Seriously.
I mean, you want to go to the downtown and, you know, explore
the downtown restaurants and downtown, you know, activities.
It's only like a 7-8 minute drive.
You know, you want to go see theIowa Cubs baseball team.
You want to see all these the, the Des Moines Bucks hockey team
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aisle wild right there. And, and you know, you want to
go on some trails and walking past there's walking past just 5
or 6 minutes away. What I love about Des Moines is
it kind of reminds me of GMU where there's something here,
you know, they, any, anywhere you go, there's something that's
going to fill your interest and there's events happening all
around town. So, you know, if you're, you
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know, you're someone that likes to get off the couch and, you
know, wants to go do something, you know, in the community on a
weekend, there's something there, whether it's a concert,
whether it's theaters, whether it's movies, it's and that's why
I just love Edmond. I mean, I, I always try to
explore it. I mean, I've been here for two
years and I'm still exploring different restaurants in
different areas and it's, it's agreat time.
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So if you guys any, if anyone isever interested in heading down
in the morning or is like, I'm not sure should I go there?
Definitely go because I'm telling you after a few days,
you'll definitely, you'll definitely want to come back to
Des Moines. And, you know, I think I don't
want to speak for my family members who have to come down
and visit me in Des Moines, but they they like Des Moines and
you know, they've never really, you know, they're usually not
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big city people. So, yeah, I think that that
tells you, I think that if that doesn't tell you to go get to
visit Des Moines sometime, you know, I don't know.
Few questions, easy ones for you.
First of all, Colin, do you haveanything you want to say to the
people in Downingtown? Yeah, I mean, you know, I, I, I
guess I kind of have to thank them in a way, you know, I mean,
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Danktown really kind of shaped, you know what I mean?
I mean, for whether it was Danktown E, you know what I
mean, or whether it was, you know, my coaches, Becky Desmond,
Coach Wade Shunis, I mean, everyone there had kind of
played a role. And I mean, maybe they don't
think of it, but you know, when it came from tennis, I mean, you
know, working coaching me in tennis kind of helped me learn
discipline, you know, learn how to coach others.
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You know, my interns. I mean, obviously we're not
we're coaching different things.I mean, there's a difference
between sports and coaching different tasks, but you know,
to them to install and still, you know, coaching abilities in
me. It's helped me be able to, you
know, teach it in my in my interns.
And my interns have been able to, you know, be successful and
get jobs. And I think, you know, if I
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didn't have that experience, youknow, being coached and taught,
you know, from the people at Downingtown, I don't think I
would have been able to, you know, really help teach, you
know, my interns and, you know, continue teaching.
And so I honestly think I also think Dankas is great.
I mean, I've been very blessed and lucky that Dank Chinese is
one of the one of the better high schools in the state of PA.
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And, you know, they've given youa lot of opportunities to get
involved and be involved with these activities.
And, you know, I think that if Idid go to as great of a high
school that had as good rankingsand ratings as Dank Chinese, I
don't know if I would be in thisposition.
I don't know if I would be goingto James Bassett or even being
interested in sport management. So yeah, I do have to give my my
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praise and my appreciation to Dye Town because, you know, even
if it was just like little smallacts of kindness or a little
small, you know, small abilities, you know, they've
helped me shape my way to, you know, getting here.
So Chad, to you guys. I mean, hopefully I can come
back there at some point this summer.
I'm trying to go back there and,you know, see my family,
everything. But yeah, dying town, great
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plays and, you know, you guys have really helped me out here
and, you know, shaped me who I am.
All right, Colin, two final questions.
First one is what goals do you have for yourself?
Yeah, my, one of my big next goals is I want to, I want to be
a director. You know, I've always been this
assistant director or, you know,not, you know, directorial role,
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but I want to be able to take that leap and be a director, you
know, Division One college and run their athletics marketing
department, whether it's a smallschool like Drake or Yeah, I
think my next step would be at asmaller school like Drake, you
know, maybe one of those group of five schools and then
eventually work my way up to, you know, being the director at
a big school like Penn State, the United State, you know,
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those types of schools. And, you know, it's it's a time
assuming process. I mean, I don't think I need to
speak for anyone that, you know,applications are, you know,
processes and, you know, there'srejection.
There's it's the process. But I think, you know, I've been
able to really connect well and I've been able to put up put up
all these, you know, great learning abilities and marketing
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campaigns here at Drake that I think will help propel my
career. And, you know, just going to
continue to learn and, you know,continuous Dr. and, you know,
you know, reach for goals and, you know, do do you go the extra
mile? And eventually, you know, that
will lead me to a directorial. Final question for you, Colin,
what advice would you have for ayoung person looking to get into
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the sports management marketing field?
Yeah, connections and getting involved.
I mean, there's a, you know, there's internships all around.
I mean, there's, you know, there's every sports team is
looking for like volunteers and even if it's a small like little
position, like, you know, helping out with the
concessions, I mean, you can build that into a career.
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You know, you just got to put that extra mile in, you got to
make the connections. I mean and.
You know, don't just do the bareminimum.
I mean, I think the big reason why I found success with the
Barnstormers or the Stormers nowis I did more than what was just
asking me. I mean, yeah, they, they would
give you like all these tasks, but I would be like, hey, can I
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do this? Can I do more?
And professor people, your bosses and your employees,
employers, if you see, they see that they're won't they see that
you're going the extra mile and you know, you're going above and
beyond. It's going to separate you from
a load of of candidates and potential, you know, workers
because they'll see hey, oh, youknow, he he's doing this storm
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squad, but like he's going out there and he's putting all this
energy into it, you know, for example.
I mean, they're going to notice somebody like, hey, you know,
maybe we should, you know, be giving him, you know, higher
roles and the more roles you get, you know, more chance to
get promoted. And then, you know, when it
comes time to applying for jobs,I mean, you're going to have
that connections and you're going to have those references
that are going to speak very highly of you.
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And eventually that did their references could be the
difference between you, you know, getting the job and that
they're beating someone out thatwas also applying for that job.
So my voice is to get involved. I mean, at JMUI was volunteering
with a bunch of different departments and you know, our
curriculum had offered all thesedifferent opportunities like,
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Hey, come help out a youth baseball tournament this
weekend, come help out with thislittle festival, youth festival.
And I would sign up for it. And they took note of that
because they know that they, they would see that had the
willingness to learn and willingness to go above and
beyond and get to learn. So my advice is get started
early, you know, go above and beyond and take advantage of
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any, any opportunities that and that are provided towards you.
Ladies and gentlemen, we want tothank Colin Salad from Drake
University for being here on theBryan Christiana Podcast.
Colin, thank you for spending some of your time with me here
today. Of course, man, thank you again
for having me and any if anyone's looking to connect with
me, feel free, you can check me out on LinkedIn connect.
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Feel free to ask me any questions, say hello, say
anything, but Brian can't take enough for allowing me to be on
your podcast. It was great to see you and talk
to you again. And, you know, keep up the good
work, man. Dude just trying to rock'n'roll
every day and you keep making usproud man.
Can't wait to see you on the bigstage one day.
For sure. Thank you ladies.
And gentlemen, again, want to thank Colin Saylor for being on
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the podcast that you can listen to all of our podcasts on
Spotify, Apple Podcast, and on Amazon.
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