July 14, 2025 • 25 mins
Brian meets up with Mike Shaffer, and they talk about the local area. Mike is an insurance agent at Myers & Lynch in Shamokin. Mike is also involved with his church and has helped many children on their path to adulthood.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of
the Bryan Christiana Podcast. Today is June 17th, 2025 here.
It's beautiful, beautiful week here again.
And today I am welcomed by a good friend of mine.
He has been a very influential part on my young life, Mr. Mike
Shaffer. Mike, how are you today?
I am doing good, Brian. I'm doing good.
Mike, it's great to see you again.
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You've done so much for me in the local community.
How's everything going for you? Doing well.
Actually switched jobs two yearsago.
Starting to see insurance agencydoing well.
Doing well. It's downtown.
Yeah, hey, that's okay. We're getting Myers and Lynch
insurance. That's awesome.
And the one part we always startoff, we always start at the
beginning. Mike, have you always been a
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Shamalkin guy? I've always been involved.
Shamalkin, Paul Township. I lived here, came back here.
Yeah, forever. Here forever we were just
talking about a pre show. You graduated here from Lourdes
in 1975, and then after Lourdes,what was next?
Went to Business School, Thompson Business School
Institute. Nishburg, yeah.
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Collector for finance company. Thompson's How was.
That different? Yeah.
What was it like going from Shamokin to Harrisburg?
I spent a lot of time in Harrisburg prior to that, but
usually down for pizza. Oh yes, for sure.
Love pizza, I enjoyed it. My 2 roommates or three
roommates and I got thrown out first semester and ended up oh
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some wild days till my roommateswere lunatics.
Oh, OK. 4 main. Yeah, well, we'll leave them
anonymous, but hey, you guys hadsome fun.
We did, but you were down to business though at the.
End. They're down to business.
Yep, Yep. Graduated second in my class.
Wow, specialized business. Wow.
And did you always have an interest in working in
insurance, Mike? None.
An interest? What did you want to do?
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According to my tests that I took here, I should have been
earning Cop. Or a preacher.
That kind of. Fit, yeah, as I say.
Do you think any of those lined up with any in?
You know, kind of lined up a little bit because because
insurance, you know, the law, the preacher part of it was a
little different. But I thought youth groups,
yeah, it was kind of different. Yeah.
Marsh and I both active in church.
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Yeah. But yeah, it's yeah.
Every little bit helped. Yeah.
Word was influential partly in my life.
Yeah. Learn how to type without
getting my knuckle busted. Yeah, yeah.
Most people don't know how to type today. 100% And a lot of
kids cities, I mean, they're so used to using these little
handheld things. And I remember I was right at
the end of like, you know, the desktops before the laptop
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really became a big thing and then laptop to now cell phone
and iPads. I mean, it's crazy.
I learned on punch card. What the heck is a punch card?
You mean just like? You punch holes in it?
Yeah, in the computer in it, I mean, it does its thing.
Yeah, wow. Yeah, Google it.
My tour Who are some of the teachers you had here at?
Boards. Umm, sister divorce.
Was Leo Leo here? Oh yeah, Leo and I Really.
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Was Joe Lubowski here at the? Was here.
Mr. Corbage was here. Sharon Fisher was here.
This is her room, I thought. It.
Yeah, sister. Oh, that's great.
Wow. I still talk to Mrs. Fisher
pretty frequently and she's still doing very well in
kitchen. And we were cleaning out this
room and found some of her old stuff that was in here and it
was just really nice to catch upwith her and you had some really
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good teachers here. I.
Did I had sister Amandine taughtart taught in the Gold Key art?
Wow, I don't know, Posted arts? Yeah, that's a long time.
Hey, I mean, that's hey, it's. 50 years.
But it's, hey, it's great that you're back here in a building
that you called home for a long time.
Home for four years. Yeah.
And then you went to Thompson's,you had a good time.
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And then after graduating from there, did you come right back
to Shamokin? For a little bit I did, yeah.
I got was offered two jobs, one with the state.
I had to work in Harrisburg and there was no money, so we threw
some friends, found a guy in Smoking Dam was looking for
some, a collector for a finance company.
Yeah. And I really got into it.
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I really didn't have any problems knocking on people's
doors. And you know, hey, I'm here, you
know, 5 bucks a week. They all went by delinquency
percentage. Yeah.
That office was horrible when I went there.
And now when I got there, I left, it was down.
Like, wow. So good reputation, dealt with
people. Yeah.
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Went to work for another financecompany.
I went to work for another finance company after that.
Yeah. Work from Maine to Georgia.
Wow, it's not. It's not easy when working.
What's selling? You were saying you were going
door to door? Yeah, Well, yeah.
To people's houses, I'd call youon the phone and say, hey, you
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know, your payments past due, what are we going to do?
And they just offer me either money or a little bit of money,
something like that. Yeah.
But every little bit helped to, to help them get back on track.
There was one guy I was always taught always lookout for the
clients that are not in your stack of clients.
Yeah, to call. And I had one guy pop up I'll
never forget. And we lived out in Mifflin Town
and called him on the phone. Then with John, I called and I
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said, hey, John, how things going?
I'm OK now. What's going on?
Never been delinquent before. What happened?
Well, the beginning of the month, there was a fire in my
hand. I lost my wife and four kids.
They said we'll talk about this at a later time.
Don't worry about. Yeah.
Enveloped out the account and leave it there for a little bit.
Get your head came back up to date.
Wow, so how? And I'm trying to angle this at
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the right part. How difficult is it in your
opinion? Asking because you're asking
people for money in a. Way I never, it's just saying,
hey, how are you? I'm here to help.
What can I do to help you? And usually that's the way it
worked for me anyway. Yeah.
And then on the other side, you know, insurance thing, now I do
a ton of health care, Medicare for older people.
Yeah, I'm one of. Those old people, I'm up in age
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and it's I mean, I was ready formy grandparents, so I appreciate
it. Senior care.
Yeah. And I like what I do.
And it's no different than I'm doing it reverse now.
I'm trying to help them save money.
Do still do tacos. Yeah, I mean, hey, that's it's a
good and yeah, when I'm on here,a lot of I and I just realized
that you talk with your hands, you're drawing people in, right.
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And Mike, I mean, customer service is so important in your
job. When did you notice that Hey,
customer service is a bit part of my success?
Like yours, I've always. And you're the same way.
I see you work at Wise. Yeah.
Fly around the store and you're up somebody.
I probably always been a helper.Yeah.
Just never really took, you know, it's just part of my life.
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Yeah. Even here at Lourdes, there was
a situation where I actually stepped in and helped.
Some kids in accounting class are my accountant because
they're kind of misguided. OK, so we.
Got it right. Even I helped back then.
That's gonna help the neighbors around the house and where I
grew up. Just like the man upstairs.
Once you think, yeah, man upstairs wants you to do that
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all the time, yeah, that's that's it.
There's a great scripture verse.You can look it up.
Colossians 323 never knew I was always taught as I was growing
up, you know be the job, bigger,small, do it all.
Well that's actually a Mike Shaffer scripture verse kind of
Colossians basically says be thejob bigger small Christ if you
don't talk. Yeah.
Yeah, everybody. Everybody has a job to do.
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Some of them just don't. Yeah, it's.
Different Mike the the way that we we met each other and we're
going back about I would say 2025 maybe yeah, I'd say about
10/11/27 so that's more than that your.
Picture that I showed you today was through 16.
Was it sick? Wow.
So wow. There you go. 11 years ago it
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was at youth like youth camp, youth youth group.
Yep, Yep, Yep. Doctor Miller was the one that
got me in with you guys and it was so nice, you and your wife
Jeannie, so welcoming, so made me feel at home.
And that was always the big thing.
And I love that you're still, you're still involved with the
youth. Still involved at the church,
not so much at youth anymore. Yeah.
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You know, some of the old youth group still reaches out to me,
some of them data stock. And that's, I mean, at one point
we had 30 some kids. Yeah.
So they still reach out. Girls, you know, there's some
girls that reach out saying hey,you know, this guy wants to date
me. What should I do?
My dad's not, you know, involvedkind of thing to stay away.
Yeah, that kind of. Wow, when what made you want to
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get involved with? Long short story long story umm
the husband and wife that were doing youth at the time the wife
told cancer She her and I did a Sunday school class together She
asked me would I step in to takecare of the teens yeah and I
said I don't like kids I. You're being honest.
And she said, I know you'd be good at it.
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I said, I'll take it so you can.Wow.
So stayed with Yeah, art. My youth group was unique and I
had the first event. I had the pregnant 2nd
pregnancy, the 13 pregnancy, thefirst recite.
The church. Wow.
Yeah. That was that one Took a lot out
of me. Took a took a lot out of me,
still bothers me to. How do you how do you respond to
someone coming up to you and yousaid teen pregnancy, a young
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woman coming up to you and beinglike, hey, Mike, I'm, I don't
know, 1617 whatever, you just found out I'm pregnant.
What's that situation like? It's a tough one.
First question is you tell them I'm a dad or your parents or
grandparents or whoever. Father.
You tell the father if you know the father.
That's a big one. That is a big one.
When we never turned anybody with the rule was that are
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pregnant you can't wear your pregnancy as Mr. regular kid in
class. You know, that type thing had to
meet the parents to tell them what's going on.
Pastor. Usually we've no major issues
with any any of the girls that they'd end up pregnant.
Unique situations, all of them. Yeah, some had parents, some
didn't. Some was with mom, some was with
dad. Yeah, but it's sad, you know,
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when you're dealing with kids today, you don't know what their
family background. Are.
No, that's kind of. What we did, we tried to kind of
feel them out to get an idea what was going on in our house.
So we, we had one kid that used to ride the van, the church van
Wednesday. And he, he'd have to call his
mom to find out where they're staying at because she was
always busy with stuff. So Shane, yeah, had a lot of
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different uncles for different aunts.
Yeah. Wow.
And you brought up, unfortunately, you dealt with
the suicide. That's a tough one.
Yeah, that's tough. Yeah.
How as and again you were, you were like the adult figure at
that point. How do you deal with that?
Because, I mean, that's not easy.
Umm, no, it wasn't easy. We we were actually at the
hospital pass too. She stayed, stayed on her
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period. We had a get together that
Sunday, just the teens, some adults came, adults talk to the
kids. It was it was it was hard.
Yeah. It's really hard because the
kids don't know. You know what he said?
Well, she was bullied, but she was also one who stepped in when
kids were being bullied. Yeah.
So loved her dearly. The sad thing that happened,
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circumstances. Yeah.
Didn't have any other major issues after that.
And kind of like settle that. Yeah.
Fairly well. And actually our first teen
pregnant, he's now 11. Wow.
Yeah, 2004. Wow, that's incredible.
He's 11, yeah. And he, I'm sure he's.
Just as involved. Yep.
He's he's involved in church, loves baseball.
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That's great. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, for some it is.
He's a good kid. He's a good kid.
That's awesome. Wow, you.
Know pretty close so she actually she takes care of our
cats when we go. Wow, So you have a close
relationship with To this day, yeah.
Till this day, yeah, we have pretty good relationship with a
lot of kids actually. The girl that's in your picture?
Yeah. Remember her?
Yeah, she's married and also haschild.
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Does she? I didn't.
She was a Millersburg, right? With Millersburg area, yeah.
See, I remember I didn't know that she had a child.
That's that's great. And I'm glad that she's doing
well. And it's it's great about
relationships because in Mike you bring it up because you also
work in an environment where youneed to have good relationships.
I actually had somebody come in yesterday who 34 years ago, he
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helped me put a shower in my house and he said, hey, I
remember when you were at my house and put a shower.
And he said, I don't. I said I do.
He said, how can you remember that?
I said I remember a conversation.
We had. Wow, yeah.
It was a biblical conversation talking about the against of the
Bible. And he said I don't.
Yep, we did. Wow, 34 years and 34 remember.
That Yeah, Yep. And I still remember one of my
best friend's home phone number.And I told the kids, I said, if
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you can remember that you. Yes, that IA 100% agree with
you. And there's there's some that
you would just always will remember, even if it's the
landline, the cell phone. I mean, it's just it's good to
have that type of relationships and Mike, I mean, especially
with the I mean the way you havethat relationship and now you're
passing that you're passing on to that person.
Yeah, the young guy. How's it how's it been for you
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now dealing with another generation?
What's different between that generation and this one
technology? I collected them from you guys.
Yeah, Today it's sad in one way.In another way it's different.
I have my cell phone. I cell phone a lot home.
Me actually, one of youth kids nicknamed me Techno Hippie
because. That's no hippie.
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Yeah, because I knew more than their parents got cell phones.
Look at that, yeah. I like tech.
Hey, I mean, is there anything in the tech world that you that
really strikes or sparks your interest?
No, not not particularly. AI is catching catching my eye
because it's helped me with someissues already, but something to
be careful of because too much there's too much knowledge and
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it shouldn't be. Isn't it weird though?
Isn't it? It's, yeah, it's it's so strange
how you can go on your Chat GPTSor even in the teaching world
now you can go on Magic school or whatever.
And these websites like it's very it's scary.
And a lot of the times. And I was talking to actually a
stand up comedian the other day up at the baseball stadium and
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he was talking about how he hosts a trivia night for
different themes, Star Wars, Indiana Jones.
And he used ChatGPT one time andhe said he'll never do it again
because it gave him incorrect information.
And yeah, I mean that. And that's the big thing is a
lot of these, the youth are using AI, but unfortunately for
the cost, right? Yeah, and that's why quite a few
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of them have gotten have been caught trying to, I don't want
to use the term plagiarized, utilize information that they
got and incorrect. I've had that in in the
classroom setting already where kids are using it for the wrong
purposes. They get flagged and then boom.
And a lot of times when you tellthe parent, Oh, no, not my kid.
You show them the physical computer and then their go,
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their attention goes right to the kid like, hey, did you
really do this? And then the kiss is up.
It's, it's, it's crazy what the tech, what the tech world is
coming to. And it's only going to be
getting more and more. And the part with kids I worry
about is that they're not going to leave the.
House, there's no interaction. 9/11 created a major issue with
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helicopter parents. Where they water the kids are
held under thumbs. Yeah.
Where they can't do this iron. Some parents still to this day
that their 18 year old son has to tell his mom where he's going
because she's terrifying. Yeah.
You know, we live in a weird world today.
The world is like it was, you know, when I was growing up.
Yeah. And it's probably different than
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when you were growing up, too. I would say so, yeah.
I mean now, and I'm not trying to get all political, but
people, you know, it seems like keyboard warriors are becoming
more of a thing and there's moreawareness I think with social
media also. There is.
It can go either way. I try to stay.
Try to. Yeah, But it's hard.
I mean, it is hard. Even what starts out as a normal
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conversation with people seems to, no matter what the
conversation is, it becomes political.
Always. I I fly fish and we're upset,
you know? Oh, they're taking, they're
taking away this this Creek or that Creek.
Yeah, that type of thing. And oh, they're going to include
the water to open the coal minesagain.
Political yes, go and enjoy the woods and.
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You brought up and again, those are local topics.
Your wife is involved a lot in the local community.
Can you tell us about that? She's director of the Arts
Council here in North Dartmouth County Council for the Arts.
Big one is the Heritage Festivaldowntown Christmas food truck
Frenzy, which is everything in October.
Arts Countable people don't knowthis does have an art gallery.
There's an Anthrop site, Symphonic, that's affiliated
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with the Arts Council. They moved the museum out of the
Legion building to the Callaway House.
We converted to a museum. That's over by City Hall, right?
Over, Yeah, down the hill from city.
Yeah, actually, Caddy corner from the rescue.
Oh nice, next to 1. 100 there 100 steps.
Yeah, that's really nice. Yeah, yeah, that's coming.
Everything's in there is just all piled in there now.
Yeah. She's going for major surgery
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thirst next Thursday. Oh nice.
God Blosser. Yeah.
Be better. Yeah, he will.
He will. It's it's gonna be.
A recovery time. Wow, she's a she's a, she's a
fighter. She really cares about this
local. Community.
Yes she does. She's like the Internet judgment
is gonna get new joke about her not slowing day this time she
slowed it. She don't want me to say that.
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Hey, that's all right. I mean, she's earned it, though.
She had really, has she? Has but sheeps on going.
Janie, we appreciate all you do.Seriously, you do a lot for the
community. Thank you so much again.
And hey, thank you for letting me have some time with your
hubby. I know, I I know you want him
around. But I mean, hey, you're sharing
with Brian for a little bit. So, ladies and gentlemen, yeah.
Mike Schaefers here on the podcast.
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Mike, what's going on for the summer?
What do you have going on? We actually got flooded out of
our house last August. Oh, no, Yep, she was in the
hospital getting your gallbladder out.
I came home and toilet filled, tube on the 2nd floor popped and
about 10,000 gallons of water and through our house.
So it's almost within a couple weeks of finishing it.
So that's going to be our summerfor now.
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Yeah, we can move back in. We have lots of boxes of stuff
that's in storage. Yeah, that all has to come back
and be unpacked and put whereverwe can put it.
Yeah, wow. Yeah, it was living in our
church Parsonage. Well, that was in.
That was my next question. Where have you guys been saying
we're staying? At our church Parsonage, which
is only about 3 Doors Down from the church and it's convenient
to go to church. Yeah.
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Just can't beg church. Yeah, yeah, they know.
Oh. Yeah, they know.
I'm just, and I just joke about that because I run sound and
projection church. And what, your grandson's help
with that as well. So that's kind of fun.
But he's getting ready to go to college.
Congrats. To Caring University down there,
Philadelphia. Yeah, that's awesome.
What's it? What's he gonna be studying?
Umm. Sports.
Not sports. Something sports logistics.
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Nice. Sports management I.
Think. And what's his name?
I don't know your Owen. Is Owen.
Anyone goes to Shamalkin? He now he went to Columbia
County Christian. That is a good school and I've
been hearing a lot about them. Good school, great basket.
Yeah. Wow, that's great.
Once he's going to go to Karen and your other, you have another
grandson involved. Or he lies 16 He plays
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basketball for Columbia County Christian, and when he's not
basketball Columbia County Christian, he's playing
basketball. Good for him.
Yes, that's his life. That's awesome.
Until he comes out to our house and he's in the pool, all that.
And. Pulls a little cold right now.
Yeah, and I mean, I'm sure you love just spending time with
those grandkids and. The youngest, Lily, she's 14 and
she's gonna take care of Gene during the day while I'm at
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work. And is she at Columbia County
Christian also she. Does Yep to freshman this year.
Awesome, congratulations. It seems like a lot of good
stuff is going on for your family.
Lots of good things are happening, yes.
So it's good. Always happy, laugh a lot, party
a lot, good a lot of food. Nice.
Here, let me ask you, this is easy.
You talk about food and what aresome of your favorite local
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spots in the area? We go to the Indies usually
every Sunday for dinner. There's like 6.
Love the Coney heritage every now and then.
Don't get there off pretty much all of my IP guys.
I love two guys, man. Yeah, two guys.
Lunas has a great bacon cheese. A bacon, Yeah.
A bacon pizza, Yeah. It's absolutely wonderful.
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We usually get it through Friday.
I leave early on work Friday, soit's a good lunch.
Yeah. Sure it out Mike, I'm not going
to lie, and this is this is morerecent.
I have found a local like my local week like when I'm not on
the road for baseball Mondays, MO Mondays down on the strip
MO's like the you know, like Chipotle Tuesday Lunas 2 for 17
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cheese steaks and they're bigger.
They're bigger size Wednesday main fire company.
Wing Night. Yep.
And those signs are everywhere. One place that does not get a
lot of love. I'm going to give them their
shout out. Thursdays I go to the Knights of
Columbus for Wing Young. Yeah, we have some friends that
go there. As well on Thursdays and then
Fridays and the big one is during when the Indies their
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fish is. Phenomenal, yeah.
Wow and. My friends, my wife gets fish.
Usually, yeah. Their Mac and cheese is so good,
she'll. She'll agree with you on that
one too. The Indies in general, I think
that place is a bargain. It is.
It is compared to and you get it's home stuff cooking, yeah.
It's so good. Yeah, we're.
Giving all these places good good references.
Wonderful. Yet, I mean, hey, and Mike,
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there was a point where I was doing the whole pizza thing.
And what's your favorite pizza? So you said Luna's bacon, but I
mean, I'm sure that's not your favorite.
All right. Hey, that's great.
Yeah, Bacon's like. It's a weakness.
Chocolate. I agree.
I agree with you. And so Luna's bacon.
Luna's bacon pizza is Mike's favorite.
Everyone, I've told you this before, Hollywood is always
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mine. And Mount Carmel, there's,
there's so many good, good foodsin the area.
Go to the tower during the holidays for pierogi bullies.
Yeah, they're to die for Christmas.
And. Are you a Are you a potato cake
guy? I am a potato.
Yeah. I used to see me.
I used to work a fair for Saint Mary's.
Church, OH before. You guys took it over?
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Yeah, wow, Yeah, the best one, Imean, well at the Heritage
Festival, which your wife was responsible for the Redmond.
The Redmond they had. The very good ones.
And then I saw a few others. Yogis is oh, are they local?
He's scrammed. Wilkesboro area somewhere up
there. OK.
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But he does a Polish supper. You get perogies, you get
Kabasi. Like a pigeon.
No hallucini and it lays. All of it lays in a hallucini
bed. Interesting, that does sound
phenomenal. Oh man, we're so lucky with a
lot of the foods we have in thisarea.
Ethnic. Food is people don't really
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understand a lot of food. Who would eat pollution?
You look at it's like, no, I'm eating.
Are you a soupy guy? I do like soup.
Yes, that's good. Stuff.
I actually have three of them inmy first.
Refrigerator, there you go. I mean, late at night, you know,
just getting out of the bag and it's good stuff.
And I mean, we're so lucky in this area.
I mean, one, that it's a weakness for me.
Big Benz, The soda. Oh, the soda.
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Yeah. Like that.
Having that and then the soup. Easy one for you.
How do you eat your perotti? I like them bathed in butter,
slightly brown with onions in the pan.
OK, the fried loving. Fried, they are so good.
Let me think final question for you, Mike, OK.
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And this is a this is actually, it's not food related, it's more
smoking related. Why do you love and why do you
get involved in activities? I think part of it is my wife,
of course. Yeah, it's just we both have,
there's a heritage here that we have.
My family goes back early right now.
I just found out this is an intro.
Found out three years ago, four years ago that my dad, who I
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didn't know with that on my birth certificate isn't my and
that my dad Jewish apparel murder.
He bought material for our shirtcompany and I am 53% Jewish.
Nice, yes? That's awesome.
Yeah, it's cool. Yeah.
So there's still a little mutt. And that's OK.
But yeah. 53% One of the I've met part of the family online
person, the one niece, I guess of my brother's daughter.
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She's back in the 16th century. Also they did like the
ancestry.com and that's so. Cool.
An ancestor. Congratulations, man, that's
huge. That's your you hear so many
success stories from that and just knowing that wow, it made
an impact on your life. Yep, it.
Did you know the reason I did itwas I knew that my dad was my
dad on my versus Yeah, I had a health issue.
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It might be nice to know where it comes.
Yeah. So I tried it and.
Wham wow and are they Are they local?
Or no, they're they're New Jersey.
The family space was New Jersey based Chambersburg.
Oh, nice. Yeah, he.
Died three months before my. Oh wow I never knew him but I
have some half brothers so and Ihave 1/2 sister sometimes.
Well, congratulations I guess. As awesome someday.
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Well, Mike, I want to thank you again for giving us some of your
time today. It was great to have you and
it's very catching up for sure. Yeah.
It was it was nice seeing you seeing white.
Yeah, Mike, if if anyone wants to go to you for insurance
needs, what's the best way to get in content?
Stop in the office, Myers and Lynch.
You can find me online. I'm on Facebook.
My phone number. Ask Brian.
Yeah, all right, Sounds good. Ladies and gentlemen, again,
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thank you for listening again, Mike Shaffer here on the
podcast. You can listen to us on Spotify,
Apple Podcasts, or on Amazon Music.
We hope you all have have a great day everyone stay safe and
enjoy.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of
the Bryan Christiana Podcast. Today is June 17th, 2025 here.
It's beautiful, beautiful week here again.
And today I am welcomed by a good friend of mine.
He has been a very influential part on my young life, Mr. Mike
Shaffer. Mike, how are you today?
I am doing good, Brian. I'm doing good.
Mike, it's great to see you again.
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You've done so much for me in the local community.
How's everything going for you? Doing well.
Actually switched jobs two yearsago.
Starting to see insurance agencydoing well.
Doing well. It's downtown.
Yeah, hey, that's okay. We're getting Myers and Lynch
insurance. That's awesome.
And the one part we always startoff, we always start at the
beginning. Mike, have you always been a
(00:47):
Shamalkin guy? I've always been involved.
Shamalkin, Paul Township. I lived here, came back here.
Yeah, forever. Here forever we were just
talking about a pre show. You graduated here from Lourdes
in 1975, and then after Lourdes,what was next?
Went to Business School, Thompson Business School
Institute. Nishburg, yeah.
(01:09):
Collector for finance company. Thompson's How was.
That different? Yeah.
What was it like going from Shamokin to Harrisburg?
I spent a lot of time in Harrisburg prior to that, but
usually down for pizza. Oh yes, for sure.
Love pizza, I enjoyed it. My 2 roommates or three
roommates and I got thrown out first semester and ended up oh
(01:29):
some wild days till my roommateswere lunatics.
Oh, OK. 4 main. Yeah, well, we'll leave them
anonymous, but hey, you guys hadsome fun.
We did, but you were down to business though at the.
End. They're down to business.
Yep, Yep. Graduated second in my class.
Wow, specialized business. Wow.
And did you always have an interest in working in
insurance, Mike? None.
An interest? What did you want to do?
(01:50):
According to my tests that I took here, I should have been
earning Cop. Or a preacher.
That kind of. Fit, yeah, as I say.
Do you think any of those lined up with any in?
You know, kind of lined up a little bit because because
insurance, you know, the law, the preacher part of it was a
little different. But I thought youth groups,
yeah, it was kind of different. Yeah.
Marsh and I both active in church.
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Yeah. But yeah, it's yeah.
Every little bit helped. Yeah.
Word was influential partly in my life.
Yeah. Learn how to type without
getting my knuckle busted. Yeah, yeah.
Most people don't know how to type today. 100% And a lot of
kids cities, I mean, they're so used to using these little
handheld things. And I remember I was right at
the end of like, you know, the desktops before the laptop
(02:33):
really became a big thing and then laptop to now cell phone
and iPads. I mean, it's crazy.
I learned on punch card. What the heck is a punch card?
You mean just like? You punch holes in it?
Yeah, in the computer in it, I mean, it does its thing.
Yeah, wow. Yeah, Google it.
My tour Who are some of the teachers you had here at?
Boards. Umm, sister divorce.
Was Leo Leo here? Oh yeah, Leo and I Really.
(02:57):
Was Joe Lubowski here at the? Was here.
Mr. Corbage was here. Sharon Fisher was here.
This is her room, I thought. It.
Yeah, sister. Oh, that's great.
Wow. I still talk to Mrs. Fisher
pretty frequently and she's still doing very well in
kitchen. And we were cleaning out this
room and found some of her old stuff that was in here and it
was just really nice to catch upwith her and you had some really
(03:19):
good teachers here. I.
Did I had sister Amandine taughtart taught in the Gold Key art?
Wow, I don't know, Posted arts? Yeah, that's a long time.
Hey, I mean, that's hey, it's. 50 years.
But it's, hey, it's great that you're back here in a building
that you called home for a long time.
Home for four years. Yeah.
And then you went to Thompson's,you had a good time.
(03:40):
And then after graduating from there, did you come right back
to Shamokin? For a little bit I did, yeah.
I got was offered two jobs, one with the state.
I had to work in Harrisburg and there was no money, so we threw
some friends, found a guy in Smoking Dam was looking for
some, a collector for a finance company.
Yeah. And I really got into it.
(04:00):
I really didn't have any problems knocking on people's
doors. And you know, hey, I'm here, you
know, 5 bucks a week. They all went by delinquency
percentage. Yeah.
That office was horrible when I went there.
And now when I got there, I left, it was down.
Like, wow. So good reputation, dealt with
people. Yeah.
(04:20):
Went to work for another financecompany.
I went to work for another finance company after that.
Yeah. Work from Maine to Georgia.
Wow, it's not. It's not easy when working.
What's selling? You were saying you were going
door to door? Yeah, Well, yeah.
To people's houses, I'd call youon the phone and say, hey, you
(04:41):
know, your payments past due, what are we going to do?
And they just offer me either money or a little bit of money,
something like that. Yeah.
But every little bit helped to, to help them get back on track.
There was one guy I was always taught always lookout for the
clients that are not in your stack of clients.
Yeah, to call. And I had one guy pop up I'll
never forget. And we lived out in Mifflin Town
and called him on the phone. Then with John, I called and I
(05:02):
said, hey, John, how things going?
I'm OK now. What's going on?
Never been delinquent before. What happened?
Well, the beginning of the month, there was a fire in my
hand. I lost my wife and four kids.
They said we'll talk about this at a later time.
Don't worry about. Yeah.
Enveloped out the account and leave it there for a little bit.
Get your head came back up to date.
Wow, so how? And I'm trying to angle this at
(05:24):
the right part. How difficult is it in your
opinion? Asking because you're asking
people for money in a. Way I never, it's just saying,
hey, how are you? I'm here to help.
What can I do to help you? And usually that's the way it
worked for me anyway. Yeah.
And then on the other side, you know, insurance thing, now I do
a ton of health care, Medicare for older people.
Yeah, I'm one of. Those old people, I'm up in age
(05:47):
and it's I mean, I was ready formy grandparents, so I appreciate
it. Senior care.
Yeah. And I like what I do.
And it's no different than I'm doing it reverse now.
I'm trying to help them save money.
Do still do tacos. Yeah, I mean, hey, that's it's a
good and yeah, when I'm on here,a lot of I and I just realized
that you talk with your hands, you're drawing people in, right.
(06:08):
And Mike, I mean, customer service is so important in your
job. When did you notice that Hey,
customer service is a bit part of my success?
Like yours, I've always. And you're the same way.
I see you work at Wise. Yeah.
Fly around the store and you're up somebody.
I probably always been a helper.Yeah.
Just never really took, you know, it's just part of my life.
(06:28):
Yeah. Even here at Lourdes, there was
a situation where I actually stepped in and helped.
Some kids in accounting class are my accountant because
they're kind of misguided. OK, so we.
Got it right. Even I helped back then.
That's gonna help the neighbors around the house and where I
grew up. Just like the man upstairs.
Once you think, yeah, man upstairs wants you to do that
(06:50):
all the time, yeah, that's that's it.
There's a great scripture verse.You can look it up.
Colossians 323 never knew I was always taught as I was growing
up, you know be the job, bigger,small, do it all.
Well that's actually a Mike Shaffer scripture verse kind of
Colossians basically says be thejob bigger small Christ if you
don't talk. Yeah.
Yeah, everybody. Everybody has a job to do.
(07:11):
Some of them just don't. Yeah, it's.
Different Mike the the way that we we met each other and we're
going back about I would say 2025 maybe yeah, I'd say about
10/11/27 so that's more than that your.
Picture that I showed you today was through 16.
Was it sick? Wow.
So wow. There you go. 11 years ago it
(07:31):
was at youth like youth camp, youth youth group.
Yep, Yep, Yep. Doctor Miller was the one that
got me in with you guys and it was so nice, you and your wife
Jeannie, so welcoming, so made me feel at home.
And that was always the big thing.
And I love that you're still, you're still involved with the
youth. Still involved at the church,
not so much at youth anymore. Yeah.
(07:52):
You know, some of the old youth group still reaches out to me,
some of them data stock. And that's, I mean, at one point
we had 30 some kids. Yeah.
So they still reach out. Girls, you know, there's some
girls that reach out saying hey,you know, this guy wants to date
me. What should I do?
My dad's not, you know, involvedkind of thing to stay away.
Yeah, that kind of. Wow, when what made you want to
(08:12):
get involved with? Long short story long story umm
the husband and wife that were doing youth at the time the wife
told cancer She her and I did a Sunday school class together She
asked me would I step in to takecare of the teens yeah and I
said I don't like kids I. You're being honest.
And she said, I know you'd be good at it.
(08:32):
I said, I'll take it so you can.Wow.
So stayed with Yeah, art. My youth group was unique and I
had the first event. I had the pregnant 2nd
pregnancy, the 13 pregnancy, thefirst recite.
The church. Wow.
Yeah. That was that one Took a lot out
of me. Took a took a lot out of me,
still bothers me to. How do you how do you respond to
someone coming up to you and yousaid teen pregnancy, a young
(08:54):
woman coming up to you and beinglike, hey, Mike, I'm, I don't
know, 1617 whatever, you just found out I'm pregnant.
What's that situation like? It's a tough one.
First question is you tell them I'm a dad or your parents or
grandparents or whoever. Father.
You tell the father if you know the father.
That's a big one. That is a big one.
When we never turned anybody with the rule was that are
(09:17):
pregnant you can't wear your pregnancy as Mr. regular kid in
class. You know, that type thing had to
meet the parents to tell them what's going on.
Pastor. Usually we've no major issues
with any any of the girls that they'd end up pregnant.
Unique situations, all of them. Yeah, some had parents, some
didn't. Some was with mom, some was with
dad. Yeah, but it's sad, you know,
(09:37):
when you're dealing with kids today, you don't know what their
family background. Are.
No, that's kind of. What we did, we tried to kind of
feel them out to get an idea what was going on in our house.
So we, we had one kid that used to ride the van, the church van
Wednesday. And he, he'd have to call his
mom to find out where they're staying at because she was
always busy with stuff. So Shane, yeah, had a lot of
(10:00):
different uncles for different aunts.
Yeah. Wow.
And you brought up, unfortunately, you dealt with
the suicide. That's a tough one.
Yeah, that's tough. Yeah.
How as and again you were, you were like the adult figure at
that point. How do you deal with that?
Because, I mean, that's not easy.
Umm, no, it wasn't easy. We we were actually at the
hospital pass too. She stayed, stayed on her
(10:21):
period. We had a get together that
Sunday, just the teens, some adults came, adults talk to the
kids. It was it was it was hard.
Yeah. It's really hard because the
kids don't know. You know what he said?
Well, she was bullied, but she was also one who stepped in when
kids were being bullied. Yeah.
So loved her dearly. The sad thing that happened,
(10:42):
circumstances. Yeah.
Didn't have any other major issues after that.
And kind of like settle that. Yeah.
Fairly well. And actually our first teen
pregnant, he's now 11. Wow.
Yeah, 2004. Wow, that's incredible.
He's 11, yeah. And he, I'm sure he's.
Just as involved. Yep.
He's he's involved in church, loves baseball.
(11:03):
That's great. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, for some it is.
He's a good kid. He's a good kid.
That's awesome. Wow, you.
Know pretty close so she actually she takes care of our
cats when we go. Wow, So you have a close
relationship with To this day, yeah.
Till this day, yeah, we have pretty good relationship with a
lot of kids actually. The girl that's in your picture?
Yeah. Remember her?
Yeah, she's married and also haschild.
(11:26):
Does she? I didn't.
She was a Millersburg, right? With Millersburg area, yeah.
See, I remember I didn't know that she had a child.
That's that's great. And I'm glad that she's doing
well. And it's it's great about
relationships because in Mike you bring it up because you also
work in an environment where youneed to have good relationships.
I actually had somebody come in yesterday who 34 years ago, he
(11:48):
helped me put a shower in my house and he said, hey, I
remember when you were at my house and put a shower.
And he said, I don't. I said I do.
He said, how can you remember that?
I said I remember a conversation.
We had. Wow, yeah.
It was a biblical conversation talking about the against of the
Bible. And he said I don't.
Yep, we did. Wow, 34 years and 34 remember.
That Yeah, Yep. And I still remember one of my
best friend's home phone number.And I told the kids, I said, if
(12:10):
you can remember that you. Yes, that IA 100% agree with
you. And there's there's some that
you would just always will remember, even if it's the
landline, the cell phone. I mean, it's just it's good to
have that type of relationships and Mike, I mean, especially
with the I mean the way you havethat relationship and now you're
passing that you're passing on to that person.
Yeah, the young guy. How's it how's it been for you
(12:33):
now dealing with another generation?
What's different between that generation and this one
technology? I collected them from you guys.
Yeah, Today it's sad in one way.In another way it's different.
I have my cell phone. I cell phone a lot home.
Me actually, one of youth kids nicknamed me Techno Hippie
because. That's no hippie.
(12:54):
Yeah, because I knew more than their parents got cell phones.
Look at that, yeah. I like tech.
Hey, I mean, is there anything in the tech world that you that
really strikes or sparks your interest?
No, not not particularly. AI is catching catching my eye
because it's helped me with someissues already, but something to
be careful of because too much there's too much knowledge and
(13:16):
it shouldn't be. Isn't it weird though?
Isn't it? It's, yeah, it's it's so strange
how you can go on your Chat GPTSor even in the teaching world
now you can go on Magic school or whatever.
And these websites like it's very it's scary.
And a lot of the times. And I was talking to actually a
stand up comedian the other day up at the baseball stadium and
(13:38):
he was talking about how he hosts a trivia night for
different themes, Star Wars, Indiana Jones.
And he used ChatGPT one time andhe said he'll never do it again
because it gave him incorrect information.
And yeah, I mean that. And that's the big thing is a
lot of these, the youth are using AI, but unfortunately for
the cost, right? Yeah, and that's why quite a few
(14:00):
of them have gotten have been caught trying to, I don't want
to use the term plagiarized, utilize information that they
got and incorrect. I've had that in in the
classroom setting already where kids are using it for the wrong
purposes. They get flagged and then boom.
And a lot of times when you tellthe parent, Oh, no, not my kid.
You show them the physical computer and then their go,
(14:21):
their attention goes right to the kid like, hey, did you
really do this? And then the kiss is up.
It's, it's, it's crazy what the tech, what the tech world is
coming to. And it's only going to be
getting more and more. And the part with kids I worry
about is that they're not going to leave the.
House, there's no interaction. 9/11 created a major issue with
(14:43):
helicopter parents. Where they water the kids are
held under thumbs. Yeah.
Where they can't do this iron. Some parents still to this day
that their 18 year old son has to tell his mom where he's going
because she's terrifying. Yeah.
You know, we live in a weird world today.
The world is like it was, you know, when I was growing up.
Yeah. And it's probably different than
(15:03):
when you were growing up, too. I would say so, yeah.
I mean now, and I'm not trying to get all political, but
people, you know, it seems like keyboard warriors are becoming
more of a thing and there's moreawareness I think with social
media also. There is.
It can go either way. I try to stay.
Try to. Yeah, But it's hard.
I mean, it is hard. Even what starts out as a normal
(15:26):
conversation with people seems to, no matter what the
conversation is, it becomes political.
Always. I I fly fish and we're upset,
you know? Oh, they're taking, they're
taking away this this Creek or that Creek.
Yeah, that type of thing. And oh, they're going to include
the water to open the coal minesagain.
Political yes, go and enjoy the woods and.
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You brought up and again, those are local topics.
Your wife is involved a lot in the local community.
Can you tell us about that? She's director of the Arts
Council here in North Dartmouth County Council for the Arts.
Big one is the Heritage Festivaldowntown Christmas food truck
Frenzy, which is everything in October.
Arts Countable people don't knowthis does have an art gallery.
There's an Anthrop site, Symphonic, that's affiliated
(16:09):
with the Arts Council. They moved the museum out of the
Legion building to the Callaway House.
We converted to a museum. That's over by City Hall, right?
Over, Yeah, down the hill from city.
Yeah, actually, Caddy corner from the rescue.
Oh nice, next to 1. 100 there 100 steps.
Yeah, that's really nice. Yeah, yeah, that's coming.
Everything's in there is just all piled in there now.
Yeah. She's going for major surgery
(16:31):
thirst next Thursday. Oh nice.
God Blosser. Yeah.
Be better. Yeah, he will.
He will. It's it's gonna be.
A recovery time. Wow, she's a she's a, she's a
fighter. She really cares about this
local. Community.
Yes she does. She's like the Internet judgment
is gonna get new joke about her not slowing day this time she
slowed it. She don't want me to say that.
(16:52):
Hey, that's all right. I mean, she's earned it, though.
She had really, has she? Has but sheeps on going.
Janie, we appreciate all you do.Seriously, you do a lot for the
community. Thank you so much again.
And hey, thank you for letting me have some time with your
hubby. I know, I I know you want him
around. But I mean, hey, you're sharing
with Brian for a little bit. So, ladies and gentlemen, yeah.
Mike Schaefers here on the podcast.
(17:13):
Mike, what's going on for the summer?
What do you have going on? We actually got flooded out of
our house last August. Oh, no, Yep, she was in the
hospital getting your gallbladder out.
I came home and toilet filled, tube on the 2nd floor popped and
about 10,000 gallons of water and through our house.
So it's almost within a couple weeks of finishing it.
So that's going to be our summerfor now.
(17:35):
Yeah, we can move back in. We have lots of boxes of stuff
that's in storage. Yeah, that all has to come back
and be unpacked and put whereverwe can put it.
Yeah, wow. Yeah, it was living in our
church Parsonage. Well, that was in.
That was my next question. Where have you guys been saying
we're staying? At our church Parsonage, which
is only about 3 Doors Down from the church and it's convenient
to go to church. Yeah.
(17:55):
Just can't beg church. Yeah, yeah, they know.
Oh. Yeah, they know.
I'm just, and I just joke about that because I run sound and
projection church. And what, your grandson's help
with that as well. So that's kind of fun.
But he's getting ready to go to college.
Congrats. To Caring University down there,
Philadelphia. Yeah, that's awesome.
What's it? What's he gonna be studying?
Umm. Sports.
Not sports. Something sports logistics.
(18:17):
Nice. Sports management I.
Think. And what's his name?
I don't know your Owen. Is Owen.
Anyone goes to Shamalkin? He now he went to Columbia
County Christian. That is a good school and I've
been hearing a lot about them. Good school, great basket.
Yeah. Wow, that's great.
Once he's going to go to Karen and your other, you have another
grandson involved. Or he lies 16 He plays
(18:38):
basketball for Columbia County Christian, and when he's not
basketball Columbia County Christian, he's playing
basketball. Good for him.
Yes, that's his life. That's awesome.
Until he comes out to our house and he's in the pool, all that.
And. Pulls a little cold right now.
Yeah, and I mean, I'm sure you love just spending time with
those grandkids and. The youngest, Lily, she's 14 and
she's gonna take care of Gene during the day while I'm at
(18:58):
work. And is she at Columbia County
Christian also she. Does Yep to freshman this year.
Awesome, congratulations. It seems like a lot of good
stuff is going on for your family.
Lots of good things are happening, yes.
So it's good. Always happy, laugh a lot, party
a lot, good a lot of food. Nice.
Here, let me ask you, this is easy.
You talk about food and what aresome of your favorite local
(19:19):
spots in the area? We go to the Indies usually
every Sunday for dinner. There's like 6.
Love the Coney heritage every now and then.
Don't get there off pretty much all of my IP guys.
I love two guys, man. Yeah, two guys.
Lunas has a great bacon cheese. A bacon, Yeah.
A bacon pizza, Yeah. It's absolutely wonderful.
(19:41):
We usually get it through Friday.
I leave early on work Friday, soit's a good lunch.
Yeah. Sure it out Mike, I'm not going
to lie, and this is this is morerecent.
I have found a local like my local week like when I'm not on
the road for baseball Mondays, MO Mondays down on the strip
MO's like the you know, like Chipotle Tuesday Lunas 2 for 17
(20:02):
cheese steaks and they're bigger.
They're bigger size Wednesday main fire company.
Wing Night. Yep.
And those signs are everywhere. One place that does not get a
lot of love. I'm going to give them their
shout out. Thursdays I go to the Knights of
Columbus for Wing Young. Yeah, we have some friends that
go there. As well on Thursdays and then
Fridays and the big one is during when the Indies their
(20:25):
fish is. Phenomenal, yeah.
Wow and. My friends, my wife gets fish.
Usually, yeah. Their Mac and cheese is so good,
she'll. She'll agree with you on that
one too. The Indies in general, I think
that place is a bargain. It is.
It is compared to and you get it's home stuff cooking, yeah.
It's so good. Yeah, we're.
Giving all these places good good references.
Wonderful. Yet, I mean, hey, and Mike,
(20:47):
there was a point where I was doing the whole pizza thing.
And what's your favorite pizza? So you said Luna's bacon, but I
mean, I'm sure that's not your favorite.
All right. Hey, that's great.
Yeah, Bacon's like. It's a weakness.
Chocolate. I agree.
I agree with you. And so Luna's bacon.
Luna's bacon pizza is Mike's favorite.
Everyone, I've told you this before, Hollywood is always
(21:08):
mine. And Mount Carmel, there's,
there's so many good, good foodsin the area.
Go to the tower during the holidays for pierogi bullies.
Yeah, they're to die for Christmas.
And. Are you a Are you a potato cake
guy? I am a potato.
Yeah. I used to see me.
I used to work a fair for Saint Mary's.
Church, OH before. You guys took it over?
(21:30):
Yeah, wow, Yeah, the best one, Imean, well at the Heritage
Festival, which your wife was responsible for the Redmond.
The Redmond they had. The very good ones.
And then I saw a few others. Yogis is oh, are they local?
He's scrammed. Wilkesboro area somewhere up
there. OK.
(21:50):
But he does a Polish supper. You get perogies, you get
Kabasi. Like a pigeon.
No hallucini and it lays. All of it lays in a hallucini
bed. Interesting, that does sound
phenomenal. Oh man, we're so lucky with a
lot of the foods we have in thisarea.
Ethnic. Food is people don't really
(22:11):
understand a lot of food. Who would eat pollution?
You look at it's like, no, I'm eating.
Are you a soupy guy? I do like soup.
Yes, that's good. Stuff.
I actually have three of them inmy first.
Refrigerator, there you go. I mean, late at night, you know,
just getting out of the bag and it's good stuff.
And I mean, we're so lucky in this area.
I mean, one, that it's a weakness for me.
Big Benz, The soda. Oh, the soda.
(22:32):
Yeah. Like that.
Having that and then the soup. Easy one for you.
How do you eat your perotti? I like them bathed in butter,
slightly brown with onions in the pan.
OK, the fried loving. Fried, they are so good.
Let me think final question for you, Mike, OK.
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And this is a this is actually, it's not food related, it's more
smoking related. Why do you love and why do you
get involved in activities? I think part of it is my wife,
of course. Yeah, it's just we both have,
there's a heritage here that we have.
My family goes back early right now.
I just found out this is an intro.
Found out three years ago, four years ago that my dad, who I
(23:15):
didn't know with that on my birth certificate isn't my and
that my dad Jewish apparel murder.
He bought material for our shirtcompany and I am 53% Jewish.
Nice, yes? That's awesome.
Yeah, it's cool. Yeah.
So there's still a little mutt. And that's OK.
But yeah. 53% One of the I've met part of the family online
person, the one niece, I guess of my brother's daughter.
(23:38):
She's back in the 16th century. Also they did like the
ancestry.com and that's so. Cool.
An ancestor. Congratulations, man, that's
huge. That's your you hear so many
success stories from that and just knowing that wow, it made
an impact on your life. Yep, it.
Did you know the reason I did itwas I knew that my dad was my
dad on my versus Yeah, I had a health issue.
(24:00):
It might be nice to know where it comes.
Yeah. So I tried it and.
Wham wow and are they Are they local?
Or no, they're they're New Jersey.
The family space was New Jersey based Chambersburg.
Oh, nice. Yeah, he.
Died three months before my. Oh wow I never knew him but I
have some half brothers so and Ihave 1/2 sister sometimes.
Well, congratulations I guess. As awesome someday.
(24:22):
Well, Mike, I want to thank you again for giving us some of your
time today. It was great to have you and
it's very catching up for sure. Yeah.
It was it was nice seeing you seeing white.
Yeah, Mike, if if anyone wants to go to you for insurance
needs, what's the best way to get in content?
Stop in the office, Myers and Lynch.
You can find me online. I'm on Facebook.
My phone number. Ask Brian.
Yeah, all right, Sounds good. Ladies and gentlemen, again,
(24:45):
thank you for listening again, Mike Shaffer here on the
podcast. You can listen to us on Spotify,
Apple Podcasts, or on Amazon Music.
We hope you all have have a great day everyone stay safe and
enjoy.
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