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Colton Cockerell (00:04):
Hello and
welcome to a another exciting
episode of Bridge the Gap wherewe're balancing life through
health, wealth, business andrelationships.
All right, hello and welcome toanother exciting episode of
Bridge the Gap we're bouncinglive through health, wealth,
business and relationships. Myname is Colton Cockerell. With
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me I have my lovely co host,Miss Trisha Stetzel, Trisha,
what is going on?
Trisha Stetzel (00:29):
Hey, Colton, I'm
super happy to be here. As
everyone knows, the month of maybring some beautiful weather,
right? We're loving it. Althoughwe're in Texas, it's probably
really hot outside. Welcome,everyone this month on the show.
As a reminder, we're focused onfamily and relationships. Today
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we're going to be talking aboutrelationships through a
Christian perspective. And whobetter to talk about this then
Mr. K Pierce students andmissions pastor at bay area
church. Kate, welcome to theshow.
Kade Pierce (01:01):
Hey, thanks so much
for having me, guys. I
appreciate it.
Colton Cockerell (01:03):
And Kade, I'm
glad , you're about to ask this
yesterday, we do have a sponsorand it does Sharer McKinley
Group, LLC. So thank you for,for asking the question. Okay,
we're gonna jump in. We don'thave any for too much time. I
love the smile. My nose isbothering me like crazy. My
voice is not the same. It's notthe deep, booming, luscious
voice that you hear everyWednesday, but hey, it's I'm
going to make it happen today.
Kade being a youth pastor,because specifically as we're
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kind of talking about, you know,you are battling culture, I feel
like all the time. I mean, youhave all that, you know, social
media, so much stuff, and tryingto lead young men and women to,
you know, follow the faith, it'svery difficult to do. So. Let me
ask you this. What are obstaclesthat you see right now? It
really I guess, in a sense, youare a parent, you have two, two
little boys? What do you see thebiggest obstacles are for kids?
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That are, I guess, taking theirattention away from you know,
not only family, but from Godand other things like that?
Kade Pierce (01:57):
Yeah, that's a good
question. I don't think it's
new. I think it's packageddifferently than it has been
before. But I don't think theobstacle is new. The obstacle
for any teenager for that matterfor any human is figuring out
who they are. It's an identityissue. Who am I? And what does
that mean for my life? So in inthe teenage world, now, you're
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finding that from social mediaplatforms, you're finding that
from friends, you're findingthat from a number of different
things. And as I said before, asa friend has told me, that's not
a new obstacle. It's just arepackaged obstacle. It's
packaged in a seven inch screenin their pocket, and it's called
their phone. And so that's,that's a major obstacle. But
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it's not a new one.
Trisha Stetzel (02:40):
And it's, it's
interesting that you described
it that way to K because, youknow, although it is a smaller
screen, and it's in your pocket,I feel like it's following us
around everywhere, right? And itreally does. Give us a sense of
culture in our pocket, if youwill, what would be your best
advice to parents out there thathave teenagers to steer them,
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maybe clear of finding culturein their pocket and finding
culture with real people?
Kade Pierce (03:11):
Yeah, so you have
to monitor the phone in their
pocket. So one of the pressuresof parenting is, well,
everybody's got one of these. Sowe gotta give our kid one of
these, and every kid has one ofthese, and they can use it at
their will. So we should let ourkid to use it at their will. But
if you, you gotta give yourguardrails with that kind of
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stuff. So in some ways, likehanding them a phone and just
saying Go for it is like puttinga loaded gun in their pocket and
say and figure it out. It's nota good scenario, they need to
learn how to use it. And so it'snot bad for them to have
boundaries, boundaries are goodthings, we we're underneath
boundaries all the time youdrive on a road, you appreciate
boundaries, they're calledlanes. When there aren't lanes,
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chaos happens. So when therearen't boundaries, chaos
happens. And so createboundaries with your kids with
their phone, have moments wherethey put it away, or they can't
take it out, or they turn itoff, or they look a person in
the eyes instead of somebodyelse on a digital screen in the
eyes. That way, they're beingformed by real people in front
of their face,
Colton Cockerell (04:13):
then that's,
that's good information. So how
important is that? You know,because, again, a lot of people
I see now a lot of people makefriends on social media
naturally, the that's where theextent is, there's no there's no
other contact in real, real timebecause everyone either, you
know, they're they don't want togo out because it COVID That's
kind of behind us now, butthere's just so many obstacles.
So how important is it to havethose relationships with real
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people? So whether it's a schooloutside of school, definitely
with family members, instead ofjust like texting all the time
and all that stuff? Howimportant is it to be present?
Kade Pierce (04:44):
Yeah. So in the
faith community, dad makes it
pretty clear in the Bible thatwe're not meant to live alone.
We were created for what wouldbe called community and that
community can't be satisfieddigitally. It should be
satisfied. So, in reality,virtually is not going to
accomplish that, in reality iswhere we accomplish that. So
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there's a book called Gen Z thatBarna put out, it's a study. And
it talks about how social mediaactually gives us the illusion
of a community, but not actuallythe reality of community. So it
over promises and under deliversis really a scenario. Right? So
it gives you this idea ofpresence and absence is what
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they call it. But it doesn'tactually deliver on what it
promises. And so only real lifein person Eye to Eye
relationships can accomplishthat. So it's vital. I mean, you
really, really, we cannot livewithout it as people.
Trisha Stetzel (05:42):
Yeah, Kade, how
has 2020 or since 2020, the last
couple of years where we reallyhad to move into digital only
world and now we're kind ofmoving back into being in how
has that changed what you'redoing with the youth at the
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church.
Kade Pierce (06:04):
Um, to be honest,
it's it's not it's not changed
what I'm doing particularly. Wewere we had an online presence
as as a church anyway, we had anonline presence as a student
ministry on on a social mediaplatform. But we didn't like we
didn't live and die on thatdigital platform. And we're
still not going to live and dieon that digital platform. Like,
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at the end of the day, we'regoing to encourage you to gather
in person with the people ofGod, that's that that is the
preferred way to gather. We havethat option. It's available to
you. But at the end of the day,we're going to resolve to the in
person gather.
Colton Cockerell (06:41):
It's so many
kind of change. I mean, still
kind of the same topic a littlebit. But can you give some
pointers, I know they're there,right now, I feel like there's
so many parents who just feeldisconnected from their kids.
Right? And we kind of touched onthis a little bit. But can you
give some tips or some ideas orthoughts, how families,
specifically, parents can betterconnect with their kids.
Kade Pierce (07:01):
So this is not new
to me. I didn't come up with
this idea. But like experts say,like, eat around your dinner
table together. It's easy to eaton the go, right? Like,
everything's busy, we've gotvolleyball, this and soccer
practice that and whateverclubs, whatever, it's just a lot
I get it. The more you can fightto sit around your table with
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your family, the better it willbe for your child, you can look
at the research on that it'sprobably through the roof on how
much how beneficial it is to thefamily dynamic. And then like
connect with your kids wherethey want to connect. So one of
the mistakes that parents mightmake is they try to create
connection between their kids.
And it might default to thingsthat they like to do instead of
what their kid likes to do. Andso as a result, your teenager or
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your kid doesn't really careabout what you're doing. So you
as the parent have to figure outwhat is my kid like to do? And
how can I meet them there. Andthe way that I tell it to our
parents and to our leaders hereis you don't have to love that
thing that they're doing. Butyou and you step into that place
because you love the kid that'sdoing that thing. So look, you
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don't have to like video games,you can be terrible at video
games. But if your kid likesvideo games, play video games
because you love your kid, notbecause you love video games
Colton Cockerell (08:17):
like that. And
Trisha it's funny because you
know, that was a two weeks ago,Raychel mentioned the same thing
about you know how important itis with her family to eat around
the dinner table. How that's abig staple in their household.
And that's eating no, no TV inthe room? No, nothing. It's just
conversation around the tableyou're eating?
Trisha Stetzel (08:33):
Yeah, put your
phones away. Right. That's the
role. And I think a lot ofpeople throughout the pandemic
found that again, right wherethey were, they were cooking
with their kids again, they weresitting at the table and having
conversations. And I feel likenow everyone's gone back to the
old way. Right? They're just notbeing intentional about spending
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time with their kiddos. So Kade,what do you find is the most
difficult thing with therelationship building between
the parents and I'm gonna callthem tweens right betweens in
the teenagers because that'swhere I feel like just from
having a kiddo of my own who'sas old as Colton. Yeah, I know.
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I don't look that old. But thatthere's a space there right
where there's more disconnect asthey get older. Right at the at
this age. So what what's beenthe most difficult thing do you
find? Talking with parents andthe kids in that tween teenage
space?
Kade Pierce (09:36):
I mean, I think in
some ways you're identifying
even in your question, there's anatural gap that begins to be
created relationally betweenparent and child so I've got
littles I've got a five year oldand a three year old. They still
like being around mom and dad,you know, we're we're fun people
to them. Somewhere along theway, a relational wedge can be
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start to be put to betweenparents and kids. And some of
that is like them trying tofigure out who am I and what I
want to be about. And I've gotthese friends that I want to
hang out with. And so some ofthat's not bad. But what so
that's the challenge. And Ithink some of the solutions that
is like as a parent, it's a lotharder work to keep the
relationship when they're ateenager. And so perhaps what
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happens with with parents is,they just resolve this is too
hard. And so I'm just going tokind of throw my hat in the ring
and be done. They want to bewith their friends. I'm not cool
enough. And so I'm just going tostep out, and you use the word
earlier. It's gonna require alot of intentionality on your
part. In some ways, with littlesit's easy to live in their world
because they want you in theirworld. When it comes to
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teenagers, you have to carve outtime and create intentional time
and block out time and all thatkind of stuff. And it's hard,
hard work to do that. But it's,it's worthy work at the end of
the day.
Colton Cockerell (10:55):
That's a good
word. And and let me ask you
this. So how, you know we thisis from a Christian perspective.
So how important is is faith inyoung children growing up and
you know, experiencing life? Inall the chaos that comes with
being a like Trisha said, tweenand teenager
Kade Pierce (11:14):
is so from my
perspective, it's the only way
to deal with the chaos of life.
There is like, it is the bestanswer to all the chaos that
we're looking at in the world.
That through the biblicalworldview, we've we see the
answers to what it is that we'refacing, where the solution is
found, it's found in in Jesus, Ithink otherwise, you kind of
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grasp at things or to try tofigure out how do I make sense
of the chaos, it's around me,not only like people say like
this, not only is the chaosoutside of me, but the chaos is
in me, not only is the worldbroken out there, something is
broken in here. And it is onlythrough Christianity, that we
find a solution to both of thoseproblems, the brokenness out
there and the brokenness inhere.
Trisha Stetzel (11:59):
And it's
something that we, we need a
connection, right? As humans, weneed that connection. And
whether you believe in one thingor another, it's always
important to have those groupsof people surrounding you.
Right, and they, they share thesame values. So how do we get
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our kids to hang out with theright people? Right? They,
right, because we send them offto school, they get to hang out
with whoever and make thosechoices. So how do we? How do we
encourage them or create thisspace? Where they're choosing
the right relationships?
Kade Pierce (12:37):
Yeah, so maybe a
couple of things. One, you model
it as a parent, what kind ofpeople that you hang out with?
What kind of people do you bringin your home? They will, they
will inevitably see that. Andthey learned from that. So what
are you showing them as you havefriends in your house, and then
to like, give them space in yourhome to bring those friends
over? The kind of friends thatyou want to be in your house,
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give them space? Don't make yourhome off limits to your kids,
friends, know them, see whatthey're about. That's going to
be work on you, that's going tobe inconvenient on you as a
parent, but such as parenting,right? The alternative is not
the better solution. So be thehouse that people people go to
let your door be open to thekinds of people you want them to
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be wrong.
Trisha Stetzel (13:25):
Are you taking?
I take a notes Colton,
Colton Cockerell (13:27):
no, no, I like
that. That's really that's
really good. Really good.
Trisha Stetzel (13:32):
You know, I
believe that you are the average
of the five people that you hangaround with most, right? And if
we're teaching our children thatI think that's an important
lesson, you know, who do youwant to be the average of you
want to be the average of thesekids over here? Or do you want
to be the average of these kidsover here? Right? The ones that
are challenging you and makingyou do better things? Whether
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it's through sports, or faith,or building relationships,
right, all of those things areso important.
Colton Cockerell (13:59):
And sadly, as
a teenager or tween, you're more
geared toward the five for themost popular, right instead of
the five that are probably mosthealth that are healthiest, your
your growth and development.
That's okay, what do you have tosay to that? I mean, is that,
are you seeing that constantlyin teenagers and tweens, just
the Battle of you know,popularity or the Battle of just
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finding space or findingbelonging even if it's in a
toxic environment?
Kade Pierce (14:27):
Oh, I mean, I Yes,
I think it's a teenage problem.
I think it's a human problem.
Everybody's looking for a placeto belong. Nobody wants to walk
into a room and not know anyone.
It's it's specifically noticedin teenage world because
teenagers have a variety ofinsecurities. Right? And, but I
think it all goes back to whatwe talked about at the beginning
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is they're trying to figure outwho they are. And one of the
ways that they figure out whothey are is they find a group of
people that will tell them whothey are. Or they find a group
of people that will give them alabel of who they are. Right I I
am popular. I am an athlete. Iam a theater kid I am fill in
the blank, their group becomes alabel by which they gain an
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identity.
Colton Cockerell (15:11):
That's really
special. We're right here on the
15 minute mark. So we're gonnahave to leave it at that. Kade,
thank you so much for being heretoday. I think it's really good
insight I hope parents reallyunderstand and only the
importance of really spendingtime with your kids. And even if
it is inconvenient, like yousaid, hopefully they found some
tips and some tricks to reallymake that work and then also the
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aspect of faith. So Trisha, youwant to take us out?
Trisha Stetzel (15:36):
Yeah,
absolutely. Kade, thank you so
much for being with us today.
And for our listeners. As usual,we'll have the contact
information for Cade down belowif you are interested in
reaching out and learning moreabout the program that he's
responsible for at the church.
So tune in next week for anotherexciting episode of Bridge the
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Gap will be focused on againfamily and relationships for the
month of May. Next week, we'llbe talking with Regina Wagner.
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