Interview with Moe and Darryl Morhardt

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Tonight, we got a nice guest.
We got a great guest tonight.
Angry J.
Do you remember playing high school baseball and going up against the Gilbert Yellow Jackets?

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I do.
Do you remember who their coach was?
Their skipper.
Their one Moe Mohart.
Wow.
That guy played in the major leagues.
Did you know that?
I did.
Donfather, we're going to educate the fans tonight about baseball.
Old school baseball.
We're going to listen to the one and the only Moe Mohart.
We're expoetic about America's game.

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And not only a Chicago Cub, but a Yukon Husky and one of a kind Yukon Husky.
A Gilbert Yellow Jacket.
I think they're still the Yellow Jackets.
Did they change it or did they offend all the other color Yellow Jackets?
They are still the Yellow Jackets.
Okay.
A Hartford Hawk who coached a Hall of Famer at Hartford, a western colonial among others.

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But we're going to start off tonight with our interview with the great coach, Moe Mohart.
And it's time everybody.
We're welcoming in one of the legends of baseball in Connecticut, New England and beyond.
We have a treat.
One of his sons, Darryl, will be chiming in.

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Darryl, a great player in his own right.
But we're welcoming in University of Husky, Chicago Cub and Winston's own coach, Moe Mohart.
Welcome, coach.
Thank you, Bob.
Thank you.
All right, let's get right down to the nitty-gritty.
We're going to do a little background stuff then we're going to get to the juicy baseball stuff.

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So, grew up in Manchester.
You played all three sports or more than that?
That's right.
No football?
No, I played...
No, that's a funny thing.
I mentioned that.
I weighed 126 pounds of freshman in high school.
And I played a lot of seeing a lot in the neighborhood we played.
We had a pair of shoulder pads and a helmet, of course, with no face mask in those days.

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Leather helmet and shoulder pads.
We stuck it under our sweatshirts and we used to play in somebody's backyard or something,
but we used to play tackle football.
And it was great.
I loved it.
And then I got to high school and I want to go out for football.
And I said to my mother, I was going to go out for football.
She said, no, you're not.

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You're too skinny.
So she wouldn't let me go out for football.
So then one day I just happened in gym class and we played soccer.
I didn't know anything about it.
I didn't know anything about it.
And then I wanted something to do.
So in the fall I went out for the soccer team and I saw the guy bumping a ball to Justin

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and trapping the ball.
I said, that's weird.
Who could use your hands on a ball?
And they said, the goalie uses his hand.
I said, okay, that's where I'm going.
I ran down underneath the goal post.
I said, this is where I'm trying out.
That's awesome.
That worked out pretty good because you took those goalie talents to Yukon, right?

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Yeah, that's right.
So spoiler alert, you're the only American in two sports, the University of Connecticut,
soccer, baseball.
Did you attempt basketball at all?
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah, what happened there, that's funny to ask.
I was playing basketball.
I played three sports my freshman year.

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And then in my third semester, it would be the first semester's sophomore year, my grades
were getting whacked.
And I said, I got to pay attention to school.
And I was just about ready to go back.
It was third semester, so I was ready to go back at the end of it, ready to go back to basketball.
And I said, no, I'm not doing that.

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I got to pay attention to my grades.
So I didn't go out.
So that was the end of my basketball.
I played one year on the freshman team, and I never went out again.
And so I just stuck with the two seasons at each end of the school year and concentrated
on schoolwork in the middle.
So that worked out all right.
Just like the kids today.

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Yeah.
Yeah, right.
So we've had two Yukon Husky basketball players interview on this show.
Donovan Klingin and Rashel Mel Jones, both on championship teams.
Did you watch the Huskies run this year?
Oh, sure.
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
Does it remind you of kind of like old school a little bit, how prepared they are and maybe

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not old school, but just sound fundamentally that they were?
Yeah.
And they play defense.
And I think that makes a difference.
They'll wear you down on a defensive end of the floor, and they take it very seriously.
And you can always take it.

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The guys will take a possession off on defense.
They'll just float around and they'll take it to the ball again.
But they don't.
They're serious about their defense, and I think that's what makes them.
Seems like a common theme among champions.
Yeah.
I mean, if you can, in basketball, of course, you can physically wear them down, too.

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It's not like the guys stand out there in a pitch and bound or hitting, clean up or
something, and you can't do anything but throw the ball to them.
You can physically determine what this guy's going to do, and keep them from getting the
ball, and so forth and so on.
So that's what it seems to me that they, and they hustle and they pick each other up for

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you while their guards have been, they have the defensive guard, and they have the playmaking
guard and the shooting guard.
So they're pretty, it'll be interesting this year, though, because they're going to have
a whole new roster.
Well, one guy's coming back, we know for sure, and announced yesterday, right?
Yeah, but he's a filler.
He's a guy that does all the good stuff.

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Pretty good one.
Yeah, he's a good one, that team.
Coach, the Yukon Husky baseball team, Hook C, they're heading out to the Oklahoma regional
to face the Dukies in the first game.
Let's talk about your time as a Yukon Husky baseball player.
Well, let's see.
We went to the College World Series.

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Of course, in those days you had your, Mac, you had your freshman team, right?
And you just, freshman year for, I think it was a good idea because of orientation to
get your free down the ground and then the classroom.
So you had a freshman schedule and then you played for us, the sophomore, junior and senior.
That was the program at the time.

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So my sophomore year, my senior, we went to College World Series.
And we would, in my junior year, we lost the Holy Cross in the regional.
And 10 innings, two to one.
We would have won three years in a row.
But we did go, we did go my sophomore year.

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And we won three games.
Dick, how we played against Florida State with Dick Hauser, the manager,
he was a shortstop for Florida State the year we played out there.
At the Royal guy?
Yankees.
He got fired up.
Yankees too, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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Dick Hauser, he was on that team.
We played in the World Series.
We won.
We beat them, but we lost to, I forget who it was, knocked us out the third game.
Coach, was that in Omaha too?
I mean, was it in Omaha back then?
That's right.
It was Omaha.
I don't know exactly what year they started it.

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I think it was pretty close though when they had the College World Series in Omaha.
So yeah, we played out there.
And then our senior year, we lost one game in a regular schedule.
We lost a game.
We lost a game.
We used to take a Southern trip every year down to the Carolinas.

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And we played Duke, and we played North Carolina State and teams like North Carolina Wake Forest,
teams like that.
We always opened the season with a double letter against the University of Maryland.
We played a three game series, but we always, that's how we used to open the season.
And then we'd take the bus down a little lower and, you know, played Duke, North Carolina,
whatever, those teams in that area, Wake Forest.

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And we came back.
I forget what we did on the Southern trip, but we came back and we lost.
I think we lost one game in the regular season.
And I think at the end of the year, we were ranked, we were fourth in the country.
Jesus.
Something like that.
But then we went on, we lost.

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We lost two morale.
Is it true that you guys did not have to play in a regional that year?
That's right.
That's right.
That's true.
They did want us, they're afraid we might have got upset by somebody.
So they, they limited the regional around here and they just sent us right to Omaha.
And I think that hurt us because we were hanging around for two weeks and we wouldn't do anything else.

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I was, I was going to Hartford Twyle League and we were skippers in games, teams in the Hartford Twyle League.
Oh, wow.
You know, get a little, yeah, that's what we were doing.
We were hanging around on campus and there, of course, all the other teams are gone.
They're done for the year.
And I think it, we lost, we literally lost our edge.

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You know, we came and we, we lost two in a row.
Coach, I'm just going to jump ahead and then we're going to come back.
But like when you say that, it makes me think of, there's two different philosophies of high school coaches nowadays.
You know, the ones that, you know, get bounced out of their conference tournament or maybe have a buy in early in the state tournament and they scrimmage once or twice.

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I'm not a fan. I'm wondering where you stand on scrimmaging between regular season and state tournament and high school.
And then we'll come back to the Huskies.
Well, I'll tell you Bob, I'll tell you where it starts.
You remember you had three week preparation before the season started.
Yep.
And we were, of course, we were in the gym and we were, we always did it the same way.

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We let the girls do their softball for an hour and a half and then we came in.
We just let them right after school, they got to gym because we stayed later.
And so we had all the time we needed or wanted for any given day.
And then, so what happened was, we, I, this is, this is the truth, Bob.

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I played one, we played one preseason scrimmage game against Seymour.
And I think they beat us five to nothing.
And I told, I made up my mind.
So we'll never play a preseason game again.
Get out of here.
We, no, we stayed in the gym.
We stayed in the gym.

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We didn't even go outside and practice.
We stayed in the gym till the first game.
And, and since we lost that scrimmage game to Seymour, I don't know what year it was.
And I said, I'm, we're never going to do this.
I would love it if you came up with a year.
I forget now.
Cause one of, one of the podcasters here, Jeff, the Don father, his father was a catcher at Seymour.

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And he's a Hall of Fame.
He's a Hall of Famer in a couple of different cities.
But anyway, not there in the top.
So, so I would, I would imagine in between you don't want to play.
No, we didn't, we didn't even go out.
We didn't go out and took BP.
We didn't go out and take info.
We stayed out of there because we knew when we had to go out is that we weren't going out and practice.
I just says, we're not going to go out and practice and take a chance at, you know, some kind of injury,

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pay cold, a cold weather, you know, some of the injured are hands through or arms rolling or trying to hit or whatever with a bat.
And then we had wood then we didn't use metal.
And so what, what happened and what we found out Bob was that when those kids went out in the air with a daylight, natural daylight and seeing the ball for the first time.

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It looked like a water melt.
Those guys just ripped the ball because they, they were in the gym all the time with the artificial light.
Like caged animals. Yeah.
Yeah. When they came out, they, they couldn't believe how good the ball looked to them.
And they said, we're going to do that every year.
We're not going, we're not, I never, never, never scheduled any scrimmage games again.

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I know you're watching the Red Sox right now.
How's Povetta doing now?
He's gave up a bomb, right?
Yeah. Yeah, they're not wanting nothing.
Let's go. All right. Back to the Huskies.
You had incredible teammates there.
True. And then speak a little bit, a little bit about them and then the draft process or signing process as you're a senior.

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Okay. Yeah. Let me see.
I'll just go through the lamp we had.
We had an outfield that was Ken Combs from New Britain.
Willie Stevens was with Norwalk.
And I was of course with Manchester.
That was our outfield.
And those guys were, I mean, those guys were just unbelievable.

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Kenny, Kenny, one day went, went five, he went five or five or five or six against Rhode Island.
Against Rhode Island, the games we played against Rhode Island, he was 18 for 23.
But anyway, he went one day, I just remember this because one day he had five balls through the first base left in here.

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He had five balls through the first base hole and one double down on the latefield foul line in the same game.
I can't remember every minute of the day.
We had Brad Leach, John Risley, Bobby Anderson, all those three pitchers, all those four pitchers all played Pro Bowl.

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That's awesome. Is Risley the guy that was at Eastern for so many years?
That was, yes. That's John Risley.
Yeah, he was a pitcher.
And the only two, the second base, the first base and the second base, the only guy that didn't play Pro Bowl.
Oh my goodness.

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Yeah, short stuff, Tony Antonosi was a sophomore when I was a senior.
And he played in the Cleveland Indian organization, became an agent for ball players.
Oh wow.
And one time he had Daryl Cerberi.
I thought you were going to say Daryl Morehart.
No. And third base with Teddy Kosher played Pro Bowl.

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He was from, just so the Mass Lion, forget what Todd and Matthew was from.
Willie Stevens played Pro Bowl with the Braves.
The right fielder played Pro Bowl with the Braves, Kenny Colm too.
And like I said, we had a really good outfield.
Where'd you hit in the order?
I hit, myself, when I hit lead off. And then the next two years I hit third.

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And, but they were, they were two things, this funny, there's two pitches I remember, I remember the rest of my life.
And one's I came up in the base low against Penn State in the first game of World Series on a senior.
And this guy threw me a curveball and I took it.

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And I still see that pitch. I just went that pitch and I took it.
I had a ground ball.
Why did you take it?
I don't know. Well, because he started me with a curveball.
Oh, it was the first pitch.
It was the first pitch. And I still see that curveball now.

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And the other pitch I still see was a fastball by Sandy Colfax.
And we're playing in Chicago and Dodgers are beating C's pitching.
Dodgers got a 7-4 in the ninth inning.
And I didn't know how many strikes, he had a lot of strikes, but I didn't play.
I was on the bench that day.
Ernie was playing for his base.

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And then the manager, we had this, we had this system where they tried to get six guys to manage.
And they each had a different time. They put them in the head coach.
They called them coach in the head coach. It was a disaster.
But anyway, the guy that was the manager at the time, and it was two, we had two outs, nine-tenths.

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Colfax is, you know, Colfax is Colfax.
And we're down 7-4.
And he got behind me. He sent me up to pitch hit.
Last guy in the game.
And we had two right-hand hitters on the bench.
And the manager still sent me up. Left hand here.

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So I go up there.
And I get ahead, and I got to take a strike.
Because, you know, that's just how you play baseball.
You're behind, you get a 2-0 car, you got to take a strike right.
And we got two outs, like I said, two outs and a nice.
And he throws two balls, I'm up 2-0.
And he throws that fastball. And I have to take it.

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And as a second pitch, I've seen the rest of my life.
Because he struck me out, he tied the National League record for strikeouts with 19.
I was a 19th.
Get out of here.
Oh yeah, but I still see that 2-0 fastball I had to take.
Just playing the game, you know.
Those are the two pitches I still see.
The curve ball, the kid from Penn State threw me.

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With the base loaded on the first pitch.
And Co-Fact is 2-0 fastball.
You know what's funny about that is when you say 2-0, you got to take a pitch.
The mentality now is 2-0, you got to swing out of your shoes and hit a ground,
hit a fly-bottle left.
That's like a good play now.
You just, when you need runners, you know, when you need runners,
you got to do anything you can.

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No, we were taught that way in high school, I believe it.
Hey, talk to me about, how did you end up with the Cubs?
Like, oh okay.
So anyway, there were 16 teams, right?
At the time in the Major League.
And 12 of them were knocking on my door by senior year.
And I had played for a guy named Ed Bucky who was a giant scout for the Giants.

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And that's when he's still in New York.
And he had a team in the Hartford-Tweiler League.
So in the summertime, I played Legion ball with Manchester,
but I also played in the Hartford-Tweiler League with him.
And you know, I thought he was, because he was the first guy that, you know,
interested in playing baseball.

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He said, yeah, of course.
Anyway, so I'm playing this, that and the other thing.
And so, like I said, there were 16 teams and 12 of them were interested in me.
They were contacting me and this, that and the other thing.

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So we go to Omaha to play in a World Series, right?
And I was going to, and I told them all, I said, look, after the World Series,
I'll come back to Manchester and we can talk.
So they all thought, you know, we were going to do that.
But in the meantime, Lenny Marillo, who was a scout for the Cubs, he went to Omaha.

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And they had a plan.
They had, I didn't know it, but they weren't, their plan was,
don't let them go back to Manchester.
See if they'll sign now, right?
So we get a limit.
We play, we lost the first game.
So that meant we played the early, we played the first game the next day.
We played a 10-30 game.

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And we got beat, forget who it was.
But somebody eliminated us.
And we're out.
So about one o'clock in the afternoon, the kids, the guys are getting in our dress.
We're going to play home to Harfors.

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And we weren't going to take the plane until, I don't know, five o'clock or six o'clock.
I think it was seven o'clock.
I'm like that.
We're going to, no, no, I'm sorry.
We're going to take the plane the next day.
So we get through and we're at our hotel at Noma and when he comes in,

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he says, come here, we'll talk to you.
And they take me to another place in Doberha, to a hotel where he stayed.
And they got him, who's a, he's a chief scout from New England and the yeast, I guess.
And they had the farm director there and they had Charlie Grim, the vice president, had to die.
And I go in his hotel room and the three guys are sitting there.

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And so my father died when I was eight years old.
My mother brought up four kids and she's working as a telephone operator, right?
For $125 a week.
So I'm in that hotel room and they're sitting and they're talking about it.
And one of them says, how would you like to play center field tomorrow in Chicago?

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I said, can I do that?
He says, yes.
He says, you can play center field tomorrow in Chicago.
And I'm sitting there and I don't know.
So you got, you know, you got the whole, told me you got the little desk that they have.
So he's like, come here, sit over here.
He said sit at the desk.
So I sit at the desk and Gene Wong, who was the director, farm director,

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he's standing behind me and you know, the pad you have in the desk and I'll tell you the little pad where you can write notes and stuff.
Pulls the pad down, puts it in front of me.
And he says, put this down on the pad.
So he gives me the pen, extended my shoulder and he says, 500000.

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I look at it.
He says, you know what that is?
I said, I don't know.
He says that's $50,000.
Will you take it?
And I'm thinking, my mother's working $125 a week and we got four kids and I'm the oldest.

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And I said, yeah, I think I will.
So I took the $50,000 and he said, you still want me to put it on the field tomorrow in Chicago?
I said, no.
I said, no, I don't think I'll do that.
I said, just send me where you're going to send me.

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And that was it.
So they're ready to go on a plane.
And they don't know where we're at.
I was there from after the game, 10.30 in the morning, probably 11 o'clock or quarter of 11.

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I'm in the hotel.
Nobody knew where I went.
And so I walk into the hotel lobby and the coaches are all there.
He says, where you been?
Where you been?
And I said, I just signed with the coach.
Oh, that's cool.
Coach, you had mentioned Ernie Banks.

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Yeah.
For our listeners, obviously Hall of Famer, 500 homerun guy.
What were your memories of playing with him?
And were you aware of his decision to move Banks to first base before it happened?
Well, that's funny.
No.
What happened?
Let's see.
I went to, after I signed for money, they would take me to spring training.

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Spring training with the big team.
I always had spring training.
Then they'd farm me out and I finished the spring training season with the team I was going to play with.
Right?
So my first year, my first spring training, they sent me to Lancaster in the Eastern Lake.

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I was there for a while and then they'd farm me out to the Midwest Lake.
So I finished the season in the Midwest Lake.
Anyway, then the next year, the next year I had a pretty good year.

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I played in the Northwest Lake and I won the batting championship.
I was second in RBIs and third in homeruns in the league.
So I had a pretty good year.
Not bad.
They called me up at the end of the year.
They called me up at the end of the year.

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So I played and then they said that Ernie, of course, he was a shortstop and his knee started by the room.
It's both knees.
They started by the room.
So after I had that good year, about halfway through the season up there, they moved them to the first base.

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So, yeah, they moved them to the first base.
So then I...
Back to the health field.
Yeah, I said it.
So anyway, this is a funny thing.
The next year, of course, I'm in spring training with the big club again, like I normally was.

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And I got dressed and went out in the dugout.
The dressing room was a tunnel behind the dugout, right?
And you come to the tunnel and you'll be in the dugout in Mesa, at the spring training field, Mesa, Arizona.
So I come out the first day for spring training.

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And there's about three or four guys in the dugout.
And that's when they had that coaches, whatever they called it, the college of coaches.
That's what they called it.
So one of the guys who called the coach was a... used to be a catcher.
He's always a manager.
A manager guys, coaches guy.
And he's, come here, I want to talk to you.

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So he says, come on. So we're walking down the left field foul line.
Just us two.
And he puts his arm around my shoulder because he knew they moved during the first base in the middle of the previous year.
And he said, you know, I'm going to tell you right now, before you throw balls spring training, you're going to make the big club.

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And we're walking down the foul line left field.
And I said, Calvin, I just, I don't want that to happen.
I said, I want to, if I make this team, I want to make it on my own.
I don't want to be given a spot.
And he said, okay, have it the way you want, but just do it and make the team.
I said, I'm going to make the team if I make the team.

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So I hit 368 in spring training.
That's it?
Yeah, I hit 368 and in my mind, I made a team on my own. You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And so then I, you know, we broke with a team and he was playing for his base.
I was sitting and watching, but I was in Chicago.
And so that's how that happened.

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And I always felt that, you know, I did, I told him I wanted to make the team on my own and I did.
So I was satisfied with that.
That's awesome. How great was, I mean, how great was he?
And can you speak about the other Hall of Famers you played with on that club?
Billy Williams.
We had Billy Williams in left field. We had Banks and Shortstop.

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Well, at first base, we had Don Kessinger who was very good. Shortstop, he wasn't Hall of Famer, but we had Lou Brock originally.
Decent.
He was, yeah, he was, now he's a Hall of Famer.
Absolutely.
We had, we had Lou Brock. He came up the same year I did.
And he was a, he was a right fielder, excuse me, centerfielder.

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But I'll tell you what, Mac, we played in the instructional league together.
And the first time I saw him hit, he's a left hand hitter.
And I'm standing there and I'm in the dugout. I'm watching him. He goes up.
He hits a two hopper to the right of the mound.
The pitcher comes off the mound, catches a waist high, turns the throw to ball to first base, and Brock's across the base.

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Oh my goodness.
And I said, what is going on? What is going on? I said, oh my God.
And then they trade him to St. Louis for Larry Jackson, who was a good pitcher, but they traded Lou Brock to St. Louis.
And that was the end of Lou. And then of course he was Hall of Fame, right?

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But he, he, he, uh, he didn't take good roots when he was young.
He didn't take good roots in the outfield.
And he said, sort of card hard hands, you know, he'd follow what's on.
And I think the only guy that I did like, I don't think I'll mention his name.

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Do it.
The only guy I remember, he was one of those college of coaching guys.
I do. He was one of them.
So anyway, uh, I didn't like the guy and he knew I didn't like him.
I, I, the only guy I never liked.
So anyway, things happen, right?
So Bobby Anderson, one of our pitchers are pitching.

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And I don't know who we're playing is that Louis, Louis takes a bad route on a ball
and then he fumbles the ground ball later on something else.
And Bobby Anderson is going to come off the mound, right?
Into the dugout and I guess he scored a couple of runs.
And, uh, he didn't say anything to anybody just talking to himself.
He said, boy, I need a little help out there.

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And this manager, this guy I hate, he turned the year he heard Bobby Anderson say that,
but he just said it to himself. He said it down. He's tired of himself, right?
And, uh, he's, he got all over Anderson.
He just started screaming, you leave all right.
But this is the way this guy was.

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The next couple of things later, balls lined out to, to right field where Louis or, you know, center field.
And he sort of misjudges the ball, right?
And it goes over his head.
And the same guy, he's, you know, he's bad.
He's the head guy at the time.

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So he's got his foot up on the top of the dugout and he's sitting up there.
And just after he gets over, Bobby Anderson for saying he needs a little help out there.
And he said, loud enough for everybody that died out there.
He said, I hope the next one hits him right between the eyes.
About his own picture.
Yeah, no, no, this coach, he said he said,

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I hope Lou Brockett's the next line right right.
Oh, no way.
Oh yeah, because he fumbled the ball.
And I just said, I hate that guy.
And he, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, those, those are the things.
First of all, he gets over Anderson for being, like, he just talking to himself.
And then all of a sudden he tells everybody else, I hope the next one hits him right between the eyes.

(35:25):
All of famous, still. Get out of here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Coach, I gotta ask you, the only guy I really, the only guy I really disliked in baseball.
Me and you both.
They were mad with each other.
I don't like them either.
I gotta ask you, Coach, your first, your first major league hit.
Do you remember who was against?
Oh yeah, I always remember that.

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All right.
Can you tell us about it?
And do you still have the ball?
Yeah.
The, the, uh, we're in Chicago.
We're playing Phillies, right?
Art Mahaffey, right hand pitcher.
Pretty good pitcher.
And, uh, yeah, I just hit a soft, I hit a soft liner to left field, left center field,
and didn't drop the front for base hit.

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All right.
So of course it's one of those things that we do, the head to the other guy, you know,
you feel no, because it sort of hangs up there.
And I'm running the first base, and I'm praying, of course I'm praying and running at the same time.
Open the ball drops in.
All right.
So it drops in.
And guess what?
I jumped over.
And just as I get to the base, it drops in and I take a turn, but I jumped over the base.

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I didn't touch the base.
First base goes, goes crazy.
Get back here.
Get back here.
What are you doing?
As I was praying and looking at the ball, I didn't even care where first base was.
I just, when I saw it come in, that is all because I totally relieved because it dropped in.
And he yelling at me to get back to the first base.
You didn't touch it.
Did you get, did you get the ball?

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Yeah.
Did you get the ball?
No, they didn't do that.
No, they didn't do that in those days.
No, he never did that.
The boys would have played catch with it anyway.
Kyle, Darryl, and Greg would have been out there.
We'd have been like sand lap, the precursor.
All right, so.
They didn't do it.
I had another funny habit.
I'm playing, oh yeah, we're home.

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I got on the third base site.
Today it's on the first base site.
But anyway, I thought I got it on the third base site.
So I used to, if I got the last out of the inning, see, and I'm going to run the third base and cross the line and go into the dugout.
But I, I got a habit in the minor leagues that if I got the last out and our dugout was on a third base site,

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I'd carry the ball all the way to the mound and drop it on top of the mound in my glove.
Yeah.
If I got the last throw, yeah.
And I'm playing in the major leagues and I, I just did it because I just was like, yeah, I just was like, I have it.
And then I come back, I did it.
I came all carried all the way to the mound and dropped it on the rubber and went to the dugout.
So when I come back the next inning, the first base up, I say, take the ball to your glove and roll over to the mound.

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Oh my, that's funny.
Yeah, it was just a habit.
I used to do it.
Always said it to me at the time.
I used to do it a lot.
And then the first time I did it up there, the guy, wait for it when I come back.
Hey, take the ball to your glove and roll it up to the mound with your coach.
How great was Ernie Banks, honestly?

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Oh, he, uh, he never said much, never said much, but he was a very gracy, you know, short stop until he started by them.
And, uh, he grew up to bat.
And, uh, he used to twiddle his, twiddle his thumbs on the bat.

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I never thought he'd do that before.
He used to twiddle his thumbs on the bat handle and, uh, he's very quiet.
And, uh, you know, he hit the ball and just go, what the, what in the fast, had a long stride.
What really, really a fast runner.
Could you come compare him to a player within the last 30 years?

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Like from two, from maybe the mid 80s on when he's a shortstop in his prime.
Are we talking Larkin or Cal?
Yeah, he'll play for the home run.
That's true.
But, uh, it's, it's hard to say.

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Could he hit the ball like Manny Ramirez?
Oh yeah.
Yeah, he backs spin the ball and of course he did carry, you know.
But, uh, he used to, he put his head right over the plate.
Kind of funny.
I used to, used to put it in there.
You know, they'd have helmets and all that.
They had a liner.

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You had no, you had no face.
I mean, you had no ear guard or jaw guard.
Today they got an everything guard.
The helmets were without an air piano.
They were just a hat.
They were all they were, some, you know, a plastic or whatever it was.
Coach hat.
Want to move into your, your post, uh, big league, um, life as a coach and mentor to so many.

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But if you're a coach on a high school team, 2024, are you allowing the sliding mitt in the back pocket of hitters?
I don't know.
I can't stand it.
Yeah.
I didn't know they did that.
Oh, look, go to a high school game because every kid has one.
Why do they, why do they do that?
To prevent, um, just getting a boo boo on their fingers if they slide improperly.

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Watch the red socks tonight.
Somebody will have one in the back pocket.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah.
No, I don't know.
You keep your hands out.
You keep your hands off the ground when you slide.
You don't have to put your hands to the ground.
I know, right?
And you don't throw them straight up because if you're going to second base and trying to break up a double play,
that guy throwing that ball right over your head, you're going to, I saw a guy break his finger.

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Because it would have thrown almost point blank by the shortstop on a double play really.
And they said it ends up over his head like that.
He never got him back over his shoulder.
And he looked off of his index finger.
It seems such a rare play though.
It's like such a rare play.
I can't see parents spending $100 on a, on a mitten.
I don't get it.

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Unless you, well I have one.
You got to have two.
Right?
Well, I suppose it's for the throwing hand, but I don't, I don't, I don't know.
I just throw, you just throw them back over your head.
I broke my thumb and it wasn't, I broke my thumb playing summer ball in Nova Scotia.
They had a league up there we used to play in.

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And this big guy named Looney was running the first base.
I got a ground ball and I went over and it was going to be a close play.
And I, I figured I'd, you know, I'd tag him before his foot came down on the base.
Because I was running, I had the ball myself and I was running toward the bank.
And I made the mistake of keeping my throwing hand in the glove.

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And when I tagged him in his body, you know, he's sprinting down for his base.
And I tagged him in the belly and it snapped my thumb.
You're throwing hand thumb?
Yeah, I snapped my right because I held onto the ball with two hands so I wouldn't drop it.
So it snapped my, I snapped my, I snapped my left thumb.
And so if that was in my season, I, about three weeks into the season, I had to go home.

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I had a, I had a race up, I fell there, so whatever it was.
That's a tough injury for a baseball player.
Coach, we're going to fast forward to your Gilbert days, you know, after, I think it maybe finished up some work at Southern Connecticut.
That became a coach at Gilbert and it, well, teacher first and a coach.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what, in fact, I went to spring training in 65.

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And they, they started telling me things like, Hey, you're going to be over here.
You're going to be over there.
You're going to be this.
Well, in other words, I became an organization man.
See, I wasn't a prospect anymore.
I was going to go where they sent me to go and play where they wanted me to play things like that.
I knew, I knew what spring, I did in spring training, you know, and I said, this is what they are.

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And I walked into the office and the farm director was there and I said, I'm going home about halfway through spring training.
Wow.
I said, I'm going back to graduate school and I'm going to get a job.
I had two kids.
I had Kyle and Darryl and Gregory was in his mother's stomach at the time.

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So I would have, in October, we had him.
So I would have had three kids that common, one common time to move on.
I ain't doing, I'm not doing this anymore.
I said, I'll see you later.
I'm going home.
So then I, and that was funny because I don't know if you remember this guy.
Red Sox had a picture named Earl Wilson.
Yeah.
Well, Red Sox trained in Scottsdale, Arizona, and that was a short ride from Mesa where we trained.

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And I looked in the paper before I was going to, you know, I was going to go home, fly home.
And I see this ad in the paper and I said, Earl Wilson is looking for a guy to drive his car to Fenway Park.
So I go home, nice home up by day.
I'll drive Earl Wilson's car to Fenway Park because I've got to go home to Connecticut.

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So, like, oh, there's some guy, he's got a Thunderbird convertible.
Right at this car.
So instead of taking a plane home or something, I drove Earl Wilson's Thunderbird to Fenway Park.
No way.
I get to home.
I get home to Manchester and I can hang around in high school.
My best friend out of high school.

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He was working somewhere for television plays.
I guess it's on television.
So he says, what are you doing?
Hey, Billy.
I said, Billy, I said, come to Fenway Park with me tomorrow.
I got to take Earl Wilson's car back.
I said, we'll drive up and then you can drive me home.
So he follows me up to Fenway Park.

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I get there about 10 o'clock in the morning.
I knock in the door to the attendant car, clubhouse attendant comes to the door and says, where are you?
I said, I got Earl Wilson's Thunderbird.
I said, I park in the park a lot outside.
He said, oh, so I give him the keys.
Just wait a minute.
So he goes back.
He goes back and gives me a $100 bill.
He's a slag-full.

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That's better than paying for a plane fare.
I mean, jeez.
Yeah, yeah, I know it.
I know it.
I know it.
I don't know.
That's how I got.
Coach.
That's how I did it.
Coach, how great was it to coach your three boys at the Gilbert School in Winston?
Well, I can't get any better than that, I guess.

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You know, to the, uh, let's see.
I'm trying to think of what we did.
We, uh, we went to the finals five times.
And we won three of them and they won the last one.
The last one we won was 1979 and they were all on the same team that year, 79.

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Was that against St. Paul?
Uh, yeah, I think it was.
Darrell, are you there?
Yeah, it's playing field.
Oh, that's right.
It was playing field.
And the picture was, picture of playing field was good.
Yeah.
I think it was Dave McCullough and the, um, and the quarter finals who obviously Dave McCullough

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was really good.
Waterbury's Dave McCullough.
Who, who, who did he?
We played him infuse his party, hit a ball in the center field wall.
Yeah.
Was it like a city school or Holy Cross?
He's there for Kennedy.
Kennedy.
Hey, great.
Darrell.
I played him in a tournament.
The sixth, sixth guy from St. Joe's second game.
I mean, uh, some eyes was going.

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One was from somebody and then we faked the last kid was even better than McCullough and
the sixth, sixth guy.
I don't know where that kid went, but I know after we scored the runoff of me, went behind
the plate and caught.
Get out of here.
Darrell speaking of catching in that game.
I got a hit back in red to, to, to give us the, uh, we're down one nothing.

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And, uh, he had like 13 strikeouts or something and I had oh two count.
Greg had an oh two count and, uh, he fisted one down the left field line.
The guy dough for it and got on second and I had an oh two count.
Just playing throw me a curve ball and he did.
I had a base at the right field.
But then we, my dad was mad at me because I didn't go to second on the throw to home.
Don't tell me you had a brain fart there.

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Oh, come on now.
Oh, I, I, I still have dreams about me running so slowly to watch the seat of the guy's throw
her home and trying to get Greg and I watching him play.
I ran backwards to first base, I think watching throw.
Edward Duchains with the umpire made the best save call you ever saw and I just stood on
first base jumping up and down and my dad was looking at me like, what are you, what

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is the answer?
You should be on second base.
And then he put in, they had, they had the, uh, one put in Mike Cain to run for me.
The guy got, they took him out and he put the gear on and threw a missile down the
second through my 10 out by 30 feet.
That we wanted actually to go.
Elmer just retired last, last week on the field, by the way.

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Um, and the home play umpire that day, um, you have coach to, uh, coach it was Joe
Blino.
We'll get back to that in a minute.
Darrell, is it true?
Is it true that you went out there for the bottom of the seventh without your chest
protector and you didn't want to go back because you thought you're dead with it?
Get out of the game.
No, that was a scrimmage.
Jeff likes to love, love that story, Jeff DeBrosky, Jeff was like a basement.

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Jeff actually got the hit that beat Dave McCullough at Kennedy.
We were playing, Parker was dark and McCullough was strong like 88 with a good slider.
You saw him in the twimet, Mac.
Yeah.
But Dumbo was, Jeff's got like about a four inch strike zone.
So like that benefits him.
He walked, how many times did he walk that year, dude?

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He walked.
He walked 26 times that year.
Yeah.
He all used to walk.
Walked.
And then McCullough was so, and McCullough would have been drafted, but I think they
stayed away from him because he was a little nutty.
Nutty's good though.
I mean, come on man.
Oh, he's good.
But he was, uh, he, I didn't think, I think he went, he went to who's the time of, uh,

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New York college back then, but they was, they could play, you know, I think you might've
been a little bit older, you know, but, um, Darrell, were you drafted or did you sign
with somebody?
I signed with, uh, the Braves on a, on a, my college coach.
I actually tried out for Barry Foote, and, uh, in South Carolina, and he just said,

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we hate kid, you're 93, but you have no idea where it's going, but, uh, you can pitch
for somebody.
So then I called some other guy.
I was at, I was at Eastern.
I mean, at Coastal with Bobby Richardson, and I didn't, I didn't, obviously you didn't
pitch.
I played first on the Caudillou, but we had Kurt Marrowing as a catcher.

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Kurt played with the Giants.
So I just, I just, um, played for space.
You know, so not to, uh, they drafted first base, but I had a good arm and never, never,
nobody ever knew it.
That's unbelievable.
Yeah, I just went, so I just threw for him and then I got another guy and, uh, Paul

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Snyder side me, he saw me throwing, he signed me, he was a guy that, I don't know, he signed
him.
I played against him in a Texas league.
I played against Paul Snyder in a Texas league.
He played with, uh, if I could leave me, but I played with Fort Worth and he played,
I know I played with Santa Tony when he played with, uh, uh, what was the name of the town?

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I forget.
Coach, how many of the tools did Darrell possess?
Cause I mean, obviously he had the arm.
I mean, we see him on these amateur circuits and like Darrell stands out.
So I was coming to practice one day, he was standing at home play with a couple other
guys and he took a baseball and he threw it, you know, Walker field with Dennis courts.

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I do.
He threw a ball over that back fence behind that green building into the parking lot of
the oil company.
That's a ways away.
Why did you do that?
Was that your dad's first hit ball?
I mean, geez, come on Darrell.
We, me and Quill, I know the 383 is the front edge of the house out there and then there

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was the tennis court and then there was a wall.
Another 120 feet.
I threw a ball.
So he threw a 500 feet.
I don't know how far, I don't know how far he threw it.
I was just coming down the car and he's standing at home playing all of a sudden he throws
the ball all the way up the park.
David Wells, Darrell?
Come on.
Yeah, I don't know why I did it.
I go off the plate, don't make it.
It was one of the plays I rarely, little bit in the front of it, but to see if I could

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do it.
I just remember Greg and Dave's wife when it came back from college, both of us sitting
there trying to throw it into the tennis court.
You know, because I did that at that time.
But that's all being Greg did.
We just grew up throwing, we'd go out to the field and Dave, obviously, and we took a

(52:58):
ball and we just, we went out and we outfitted as far as we could every day.
Pretty much every day before we hit and then we hit.
Question for both of you guys.
If kids today, and you see these drills on Twitter or social media and you're like,
what are they doing?
If kids played more pepper and long toss, would the game be in a better place?

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You got Bobby, you got a long toss three times a week.
You got to throw the ball somewhere between 225 and 250 feet in the air on a line.
That's how you got to develop your arm.
You can do it in a gym without using your, just spreading your feet and throwing it.

(53:41):
Just a preliminary workout, but you got a long toss.
You got to throw.
Now, does the long toss outweigh the bands and the weighted balls and the warm up and
all this other crazy stuff I see at these games?
Yes, because what you're doing there with that stuff is you're trying to rush something.

(54:02):
You could have a very good coach, but in the time that he has to spend with you between
playing games and practice and preseason and maybe the tournament, that will nowhere near
get you ready to be a ball player because you just don't handle the ball enough.

(54:28):
You've got to throw the ball against, I used to throw the ball, there was about a 40 foot
distance between the two, the house I lived in, the house next door.
There was about 40 feet of grass and I used to throw the ball against this foundational
house and pick up ground balls.
Then I used to throw it up on a roof and wait for it to come down and then I used to turn

(54:53):
my back to the roof, throw it up there, turn my back and try to find the ball coming back
over my head.
I used to do all those things on my own and that's what happens.
You just handle the ball so much.
Nowadays, Mac, throwing a baseball against anything else, obviously it's a full body movement.

(55:17):
These goos teach is spin rate, this and that and they isolate a body part when it's not
that way.
They have all these different, we do this kind of throw and this kind of throw and it's
like you have to recreate the throwing.
The full body has to be thrown.

(55:40):
You throw the ball at your feet as much as you throw at your arm.
If you don't have good feet, you're not going to have a good arm.
Muscles are starting to get...
I'm going to do it with a detriment of three and the rest of my body.
They don't.
They don't.
Some people...
Well, you wonder why there's all these injuries then.
Yeah, you don't throw enough.
You're going to be sticked in by your ability in your body and your strength, your body

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loses the flexibility and range of motion.
Then what they're trying to do is go past what their body can handle by doing the bands
or the weighted balls and the snap.
Then snap goes to UCL.
Yeah, because you actually locked those joints up with a band or something.
It's got to be loose.

(56:27):
Your arm's fingers...
Your arm gets progressively faster.
It goes from your shoulder right down as you get progressively faster.
So when you finally get to your fingers, that's when your hands move.
I mean, you say, well, I throw...
Ron Goodry was 5'11", 165 pounds.

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And he threw the ball pretty good, right?
In the mid-90s or whatever.
You know how fast his arm went?
A couple hundred miles an hour?
A hundred and sixteen miles an hour.
Get out of here.
A hundred and sixteen miles an hour.
Matt, any athletic movement, you take any one tennis, ping pong, you take a...

(57:09):
Throwing a baseball is the fastest movement a pre-embody can make.
Throwing a baseball in a baseball...
Over the swing, the arm moves faster than any other...
You know, tennis serve or whatever.
Baseball pitches, arm moves faster than...
Because the ball's only five...
Ball's only eight ounces.

(57:31):
Yeah, because you see it's a systemic thing.
You can't isolate a body part and think,
I'm gonna throw harder by lifting my bicep or lifting the lift.
It's the whole body and if you train...
Well, you know, obviously weight balls work to a degree,
but then at what?
Everything else?
You can't ball, you can't muscle.

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Your whole body.
You just can't muscle.
Your joints won't allow this.
The pitchers that grew up with the Manics, they throw forever.
These guys started, you know, when my dad played,
the guy went out every four days and threw...
Well, Jay...
Well, last time we talked to your dad, Jay,
remember, like, you were talking about the guy in high school
who threw how many pitches at that?
Tom Haggerty, would he throw two...

(58:13):
Two one and thirty-four.
Two thirty-four, yeah.
In high school.
Yeah, against Thomas in high school in 1984.
That'd be reported at DCF these days.
Hey, coach, and Darrell.
Darrell, were you on staff with your dad at Hartford?
I'd still be in prison.
We didn't have pitch, can we?
We didn't do pitch.
We didn't have pitch at Hartford.
No, that's...

(58:34):
No, there was no pitch constant.
No.
Well, we knew we kept the...
We kept it to chart, so we knew how many threw.
Yeah.
But we didn't know the end of the game.
Darrell, you were on staff at Hartford, correct?
Yeah, you were on 34.
Darrell?
Yeah, no, like, we barely throw guys back-to-back days
in the little series.

(58:55):
Oh, Porky?
You know.
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, Porky.
Yeah, they had a good picture.
They'd run them out there, you know, they...
Yeah, they'd run them out there.
And you get into the playoffs and stuff like that.
Well, Scott Lurac did that for us.
We're but Maine, and Scott pitches Lurac into...
This is for Hartford, right?
Yeah, he went to Hartford.

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He's a Cheshire kid.
Yeah.
He's got the brother of Rocky.
He was doing...
Went to Hartford Legion two years ago.
He's health coach.
So, anyways, he...
We were up at Maine.
It snowed during the game.
It was freezing rain for part of it.
Scott goes nine innings, strikes out 12 guys,
goes to complete nine, and we're in the next game,
and we win the game.

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We go to our big finals,
and we got a 10-0 in the third inning.
We're killing them, and it's over.
And they don't even care anymore.
And Scott's got ice on his arm and his elbow
and he's in the dugout.
And we can't get it out.
Nobody...
We got four...
No, no, no, Scott pitched the whole game.

(59:58):
We have a whole entire pitching staff.
So Woody was a pitcher.
Brian Woods.
From New Milford.
Right?
Yeah, Woody had one of those Woody days,
and he just wasn't feeling it.
And he...
We don't...
We're up 10-0.
He goes three innings.
Good, good, good.
We get with this little change-up and stuff,
and then all of a sudden, four,

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he starts walking guys,
and there's 10-2, it's 10-3.
We take him out, and nobody can throw a strike.
Scott...
Well, Scott LaRock.
I'm coaching circus.
We're hitting, and it's eight hitting,
and now it's eight to 10.
And we don't get ahead either.
And Scott, I see, throws off his ice on the shoulder

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and the elbow, runs down the bullpen,
and starts throwing.
Comes in the ninth inning, and strikes out two.
Get out of here.
He gets a grab on, strikes out the next two guys,
and we win.
Hey, that's awesome.
When you guys are at Hartford,
just speak real quickly to the Crunch Punch guys.
Obviously angered by Bagwell,
but also hit on Brian Crowley,

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who's got a son right now,
killing it for Sullington, rank number 1-L,
and then also Waterbury's own Joe Bolino.
Yeah, well, it was Pad Hedge.
Pad Hedge, Chris Peterson from Manchester.
Oh, yeah.
Pad Hedge was from Clinton.
Joe Bolino was from Waterbury.

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Who was the other guy?
Brian Crowley.
Brian Crowley was from...
Jeff Bagwell.
Jeff Bagwell was from Adam.
And...
He had a good lead-up to this guy, Brian Bushwell.
Yeah, he was a good lead-up.
Todd Reynolds.
Kid from New Jersey.
Oh, yeah, Reynolds.
Not Reynolds, he was from Ogo.
Good player.
He was from O-High School.
Good player.
Todd was a good player.

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Yeah.
Died in a car crash, coming back from the Twyle League Banquet.
Yeah.
That's right.
Terrible.
Hey, coach.
Yeah.
Last time we spoke, two things.
I haven't got on my mind, and I don't remember them exactly.
One was why the second baseman should be the most tired kid on the field in high school
ball or whatever.

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Well...
The only thing I remember is backing up first on a slow roller to third or whatever.
He backs up first base on all throws from the left side of the infield.
Shortstop, third baseman.
With the bases empty, obviously.
Right.
He backs up first base on all throws from home plate area and the baselines from the

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pitcher to catcher.
See, over here the first base.
Yeah.
But mostly the first base will cover those because he's not going in.
So that's the thing with him.
All right, then the other one was the area of maximum vulnerability.

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The area of maximum vulnerability.
Okay.
And what is that?
The area of maximum vulnerability is from the shortstop's left shoulder to the right
field follow area.
Because except for perhaps your first baseman, he could be right here, too.
But all your infielders are right here, right?

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Yep.
So that means when they go to the glove side, they got to take extra steps to get the throw
off.
That means if you hit the ball, let's say you hit the ball through the, that means that
the shortstop covering the second base area, the middle of the infield, is a much tougher

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play than them going in all.
He's already on his throw inside, he backends the ball to the deep part of his glove.
Got to stick.
He goes to his left side and he's got to swing across the throw and he's got to take extra
steps.
And if he doesn't throw the ball, if he throws the ball with his arm down, the ball's going
to sail or it's going to go in the dirt.

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Secondly, the hardest play to complete a double play is from the right side of the infield.
Second base on the shortstop, first base on the second and shortstop on the back.
Thirdly, any ball that goes through the hole, right, in the right field, on a base hit, then

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the runner's on, the right fielder's got to throw the ball and as soon as the runner
gets into the first base hole, on a base hit through that hole, then the right fielder
started to throw the ball and catch him up.
He can't cut him off or throw it.
That's why it's the area of maximum of all ability.

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The hardest, like the one, one six, or the three, six, three is a hard double play to
make.
Four, six, three is hard though if he has to go to his close side.
And once the ball goes through the hole, then the right field's got to throw, catching up
the runners.
He's got a batter runner.
He can cut off the second base, but still, but still, you're always catching up runners.

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The best set to right, from the right field, the right center field, the foul line area,
or dead right field.
You've got a strong arm, you've got to get to the ball, and your throw is going to catch
up runners.
See what I mean?
So, while people think that the shortstop going to his backhand side is a tough play,
number one, he's the shortstop.

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He should be able to make it.
And then you're talking about one, like, rocker step, step, and you're ready to throw it
off that back leg.
That shouldn't be a hard play.
Right, right.
See, a lot of people would look at it the other way.
I kind of like that.
One of you guys, one of you guys better grab a bat because the socks are getting no hit

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in the seventh inning.
Are they?
Oh, they got one.
Oh, Neil or whatever.
Repsnider.
Yep.
Former Yankee coach.
Hey, all right.
Guys.
We're going to wrap it up.
We want to play a little game with angry Jason Harlow over here.

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Just a little baseball-like game we like to play.
Who would you rather?
He's going to give you some guys, and you just say who's the better player or who would
you take?
You guys ready?
Skinny, you there?
Right.
I'm going to say the opposite of him.
All right.
First one.

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I'll let him answer first.
That's a good idea, coach.
Darrell, we're going with you first.
Yachty here, Molina.
Buster Posey.
Who are you taking?
Who would you rather?
Molina.
Speak up, Darrell.
Can't hear you.
Yeah.
Molina, because he works with the pitchers.
Love him.
He's just a great catcher.
I like Posey as a catcher, but I'll sacrifice a little.
And he's a good clutch hitter.

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And I'll sacrifice a little hitting for a great catcher like that.
Well, when you start a team, the first guy you got, let's say you started a team for
scratch, the first guy you got to find is a catcher.
Second guy you got to find is a short catcher.
But the catcher is the guy.
Now, Molina is a great, but I'm saying Posey, simply because he can add to the best.

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I would say Posey, too.
You can hit a catcher in the middle of the lineup.
Yeah.
I would say him.
I voted, Skinny.
Molina was very good.
Okay, here we go.
Next one.
Bryce Harper, Freddie Freeman.
Skinny, you're up first on all of them.

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I like to, I like, you know, I, you know, they're supposed to be hard, Darrell.
But he also, he also, I, Freeman seems to be a better teammate and just a quiet guy
that just puts up numbers every year and just, and I, you know, as far as swing and miss,

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I like to swing better.
I just like Freeman's, um, Harper, Harper, it's a ball harder when he hits it, but, um,
all in all, yeah, I think Freeman's just a professional hitter.
So you're going to Freeman?
Yeah.
Coach?
Yeah, I go, I would go to him, too.
He's, he's just a better contact hitter.

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He's an experienced first baseman.
That's his normal position.
Is he going to play, is he a Hall of Famer right now?
Oh yeah.
No question.
Pretty close.
Okay.
Pretty close.
All right, Ray.
Next one.
Nolan Aronato or Manny Machado?
Darrell?
I, I, I saw Machado coming up and he has a world of talent.

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I just, I don't know, I don't know how, I think, I rather play with Aronato.
I think he's a better player as far as playing both sides, but Machado, I think Machado has
more skill.
You know, his, his, his arm, his, everything is just, he, his power, all fields, you know,

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but I, I, personally, I just, I just, Aronato just seems like a much more of a gamer to me
than Machado does.
Coach?
I don't need the added Machado.
Yeah, I, I think Darrell's right there.
I think, I think Machado's got more, more talent, but Aronato is a better ball player.
Okay.
He can do more things.

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He can do more consistent things.
I would take Aronato just because of that.
All right, well let's go to the young short stops right now.
Gunner Henderson or Bobby Whit Jr.
Oh, good one.
Good one.
I like a left-handed hitter, but I like, you know, Whit can, Whit can run.

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Oh, jeez, you want to watch Henderson?
I'm like, I really like Whit's bats.
I don't think he has a great swing.
He's good at swing and he's fast.
He's just a quick, quick athlete with super nice make up, great kid, but more I see Henderson

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shortstop and, and, and showing the power.
I mean, he's about to be on the top of the big leg.
Like it's hard to turn away.
A left-handed hitting shortstop with power like that.
It can play short, you know.
Yeah, that's a tough one to look past.
You know, Whit is such a quick athlete, but that's a terrific question.

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But I got to, I got to go, I got to go with the left-handed hitter because of the area of both of maximum vulnerability.
I love it.
We're going to forget that.
The right, the right field area in Baltimore is good for a lefty hitter.
And the corner.

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But yeah, but the other guys, the other guys just true.
But that's a bigger ballpark in Kansas City.
And as far as in the field, in the field, I'd say this, it's a hair.

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It just, I would have to just say I would take the left-handed bat over the right-handed bat.
Me too.
There we go.
Henderson or this.
I'd say it was a standoff.
All right.
All right.
So let's go a little old school here.
This one, Taylor made for you guys since you're Red Sox fans.
So Dave Parker or Dwight Evans?

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Parker's got to get in the hall of fame, man.
I'm getting pissed about that.
Wait a minute.
Dave Parker.
Dwight Evans.
I'm not even thinking twice about him.
The cobra.
And Parker had a better arm.
Oh, I don't know about that, Darrell.
I don't know about that, Darrell.
I don't know about that, Darrell.
I think Evans' arm is overrated because he's a Red Sox, Dave Parker had a missile.

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Oh, come on, man.
Coach?
Coach.
I'll say Dwight Evans told me for the reason that he was a fabulous right fielder and
he played on a winner.
All right.
He went to the World Series.
This one, hold up, Jay.
Should Parker be in the hall of fame?

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No.
I don't think so.
I don't think he's the winner of all the fame, guys.
Well, Harold Banson, the hall of fame, man.
This bothers me because Parker was scary.
Parker had more, Parker had a lot of talent.
A lot of talent.
He probably got a big, big, thin shape his way he should do, but he was a great left-handed
hitter with power and he could throw and he just, you know.

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He wanted to be piqued.
Like Brad and Crown.
Yeah.
Angry Jay.
Go.
He knew it, too.
All right, all right.
Here we go.
This one has always been tough for me.
George Brett or Mike Schmidt?

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Oh, George Brett.
Wow, okay.
It's candy?
Only, only because Mike's shirt was, I like Mike Schmidt real power hitter in a great third
basement with George Brett.
the bulldog
yeah he was a he was a killer
dot he was it uh... you just look at the number how is the eyes looked at least

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a roll around the never blinked
he looked at the story about their body
no one's stomach nobody i don't think anybody's a better competitor in
june britain
he looked pretty happy with all the mountain that pintar home run
yeah yeah that's right kill that guy that was him right
that was him right there
yeah you know you know cycle pathize

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let's go on
uh... yeah but i i i i gotta take george brad for what he gives the team
there's no there's no wrong answers here coach let's go all kenny lost in
johnny david
kenny lofty or johnny david
that's a good
johnny david plus steroids they don't count the you could use them

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they've been playing with the royals in the age of skinny as a rail and he took steroids
look at the orteez and pines and chipper joe hang on a second so that
means you're taking kenny lofty and daryl
daryl we need it on record we take him
for steroids yeah
all day i love coachy i don't know

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that's a good approach for
uh... either one could throw
but can you walk the plate who's for arizona
after a while later he picked up a small and you can't walk around
he didn't like baseball he said because he said that i could do i do bad
and
i'd worked out good if i do good at a line drive i make it out i do that

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he goes back by no you make a shot right this shot baseball doesn't work that way
you know i get a terrible about it get a hit
the number you get a hit a hit of a rocket to the outfield amount
i don't like lawton in a playoff or world series game i think you made the
third out
would have gone for a hit attempt
with guys on base i don't guys remember that that was
yeah i remember that you're right that was such a cowardly play i mean

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yeah that was probably
alright guys i think it
alright we have three more
more
dh
first base but because we got a guy who can't feel david or tease
or frank thomas
the hurt
now obviously or tease
more than a man less than a guy

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the clutch hit the clutch hit tga
against mariano
he would have tied up to hurt the train is that what they call it
you guys both big one or tease huh
two time back to back MVP guy
two managers for you guys
who we go billy
time to sort of or a waiver
what do you guys get me
i don't think you're one or good

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we got a pic one side is not a great god on the wrong
i'll take i'll take weaver
uh... i'll take you know what
i i i i i want to listen to jim pomer on the radio who's very good
yeah i think he's very good and he's good up in the
you know where's a heck of a further further along to

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i last one for you guys
billy martin
or twenty the rusa
uh...
uh...
lawyer
mack i would let him do anything
he's gonna have to represent himself he fell asleep with a stoplight

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win the lefty
that's their way to go to the book any of
the rogers to make the way to take over top one of the part of the time
it's not going to take a lot of their way
and i think of a
and you have to put a point on the ball the same exact spot they put the ball
may
prove that he was doing it and the rest of us
uh... we're going to we're going to

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we're going to handle this internally
it like what is that
you know they get away with it
we're doing the game
how can you not
say anything about that because he's using a forcibly ball
and and they showed the wish the boy would say anything
was that it was there were two new as guys want their way to use about
one of the

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saying about the
so skinny you take it you take a bit more than he punched a marshmallow
salesman if you remember that
it's really not really but it's really about the best buddies with the bar
richardson
action that's what he's
by richardson was was was trying to convert
billy martin or good luck with that
so anyways they

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what christianna or something
coastal carolina
are you serious
all my capilly
billy was in listening to that
billy martin
and it was the focus that connect it
his head hit the dashboard
the dashboard was taken a look at them

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it's a hard head we had a point
that's why billy by richard was there because we had a bunch of fights in the
head
post they fired him because we had these fights
and i never went out for a fight
so
uh...
all the guys we got billy martin there they go look
the first question they have to go
all mister martin
what do you think about a player that would run out in a fight no way

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but
the
they
guys
you look to play
we have a fight every we have every fight every other game at a fight with the
other team
it was hilarious that's what it's like to see

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so it was not a
hey uh... darryl i think you're more of a purist than your dad and that's hard to
believe uh...
you're even against their rights i mean they let them take them
coach
we're gonna wrap this up uh... little fill in the blank
they encourage them to take them
i know they did
yeah we needed to get the fans back

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they told them to take steroids they wanted the guys that said they knew
that you don't feel like you're on the phone call they got him saying he's still
on the juice when they took gagney
tom he was sort of scout dodger scout told greg
tom was sort of told the guys
hey peop just taking the steroids you guys need to take steroids you need to
buck up for the team because some guys worry about the health issues
and red sacks are taking them

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oh yeah they made a record i think you kept with the manager they told them
hey if you're gonna take them hey you gotta do them we help you
here's the guy that do it this way you do it because you know nobody could get
a good time for place for dying
so some guys were a choice man they want to get better i mean look at the nfl
guys too
right coach
yeah they didn't want to see
coach you know where i'm going with this

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ruthlessly
pricking my gonfalon bubble
turning
turning each giant into a double words that are way to do with nothing but trouble
tinker's the ever's the chance there we go
hey uh guys
this was fun
we gotta do it again
watch a socks game go yanks
um thank you guys so much for joining us

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darrell give the guys steroids we want home runs
now i'm kidding
hey thanks guys thanks fellas
well see you guys
thank you coach
well guys um
not many people know more baseball than than that family i could do that forever
um

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that was that was terrific
alright let's let's get back to uh...
what we normally talk about that was
that was some good stuff
nba wrapping up
celtz versus weber now like
is there any doubt in anybody's mind what's gonna happen right now

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now since dowels up by twenty right now too
so it's over it's gonna be
i mean
kairi back in boston
that's gonna be the the side story which will be fun um i don't think it's much
of a story it didn't work out there he moved on like
he said dude come on let's be like serious like
people are like rooting for him now like he's a good guy who's rooting for him

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i love kairi
everybody like the announcement
thank you for thank you like the the the national
like media
wonderful guy now
hey as stan van gondy says are they the best offensive backcourt in nba history
well is that a good court
not a good court
not a good court
that's that's what we ran on like

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the guys has a good series and all of a sudden these guys are
you think they're better than brunson and debon shunz
they're
this is stupid
is luke considered a shooting guard i don't get that
is he
he's a point guard
he's the point guy who wants kairi
he's got the ball in 95% of the time
well is any more of a point forward
they're both point guards
where his physique i am rebutting he's got the ball constantly
and if he doesn't

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i'm impressed by his strength because like i'm down on him and just on conditioning
and a lot of kind of stuff but
maybe it doesn't matter his strength when he wants to get it off he's getting
it off and it hits the nothing but the bottom of the net
question for you j
who guards him
if kairi didn't have all that baggage and that's a big if obviously he averages
what 45 games per year in his career

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he's one of the best best point guards best guards of all time
one of most
he's so talented and skilled it's unbelievable
yeah one of the most skilled guys ever i'll give him that
but i'm never looking back at the fact that he can't overlook all the other garbage
yeah quitting on the team like he yeah well these guys can do that
yeah i was in six
hey you're taking a madhouse wow

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hater
that's fun
cool math
you don't think poor zingas coming back is going to be a bit of a of a like monkey wrench
not at all it's going to be huge after one game maybe
not all
he spaces a four so well for them
they need it that's going to be a fun series though like i kind of like that series and
and how fun is it like jaylon had a couple good games now like now he's their best player in the

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team like we just you have a good series so you're better than tatum why why does it matter
who's better they got a so that's who guys that play well
i got game seven down by two i think it depends on the match up in the night and how they're
feeling honestly how they're shooting the ball that night i'll defer to the
south the guys on that one i'm gonna take them i'm gonna take them letting him make the decision

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down by two i go to take them every time three i don't know i mean doesn't make any
shots at that remember jaylon doesn't have a left yeah awesome
is another guy who doesn't have a heart of mabs the first healthy playoff team this else will play
i'm just saying here's another great yeah this is

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if the next one is the next for a healthy i mean we know what would have happened yeah what's that
nixon five it wouldn't have mattered brunson broke his hand anyway in game seven they had no shot
okay so that was our base our basketball segment brought here by capital securities joe more yellow

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alive 76 well planned come on guys 76 and 20 right now all right so um onto baseball it can't be
ignored uh it can't be ignored even us being skeptical with the yanks here like the bottom
line is to get the second best record of baseball by one and it's i think it's due to really one thing

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and judgy had a part of making this happen but the one so to effect is real the one so
to be ignored it's not letting it be ignored by the way oh no it can't be ignored remember
angry jay how upset judge was at the end of last year yeah he definitely marched into somebody's
office at the end of last year and said we need an everyday lineup like this crap's got to stop

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and ever since they went to that everyday lineup knock on wood guys aren't getting hurt
today was their first major injury schmidt is on the shelf for a long long time
but col will be back whatever but the everyday lineup and the spot they're hitting in the lineup
you guys played a ton of baseball your whole life you know how important that is play every day

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playing the same spot in the lineup and i think it's paying dividends you have a role
i said born right born the guys know that and i i said this only in the beginning of the year
the one of the best things i saw and you just mentioned like soto immediately just said when he
got hit by a pitch in there like asking him if he was okay and he's like i'm good i'm playing i'm
playing he said like four times and in previous the last six eight years i mean somebody gets hit

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by a pitcher they they fall down and yanky lander they don't play different for three days and
so it was like i'm playing the toughness that he brought to this team even even in terms of taking
pitches he's feisty with these umpires he doesn't yell at him and stuff like that but like if they
call a ball a strike he's pissed yeah and i kind of like that and and and with that kind of attitude

(01:26:34):
now they're celebrating success like we haven't seen them in a dugout like this in many many years
that that outfield is having fun all three of those guys well judges personalities coming out
soto and verdugo have completely changed the dynamic in the ascension of vulp to be honest
i got it i got a minute to i want to talk about vulp you go ahead i like white chocolate in left
field i i do too he's good player man he's a good player he's a bad ball i hated him with the red

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socks but well they said he had teammate baggage he spent nothing but an unbelievable team yeah he
had to go to a he had to go to a good team i mean that's just what happens and when you talk about
vulp they're getting better like last year to talk about his home runs already this but he's got six
you know me maybe ends up with 15 but he's getting on base the ball's being hit the other way and
soto by the way he's got a batting average too 28 something right 288 and soto is so more than

(01:27:25):
willing to hit the ball the other way that maybe he even knows that his best power is the other way
although the ones he pulls are majestic he loves hitting the ball the other way wake up crack we're
talking yanking baseball over here we're one season with soto we're not gonna no we're paying for him
bottom line i can't wait till the wheels fall off uh oh they'll definitely come off because
stand stand see no but on these days we got the martian he's gonna get the sniffles the only way

(01:27:50):
they fall off is that that guy actually has a problem and that ain't happening soto one of these
times judge his needles gonna fall out when he's sliding the second and he's gonna get hurt his
one was needles gonna slide on me on the second go he's gonna be out would it seem much bigger than
he was when he was a rookie are you kidding me captain caveman come on six four 450 pounds hang out

(01:28:15):
with Ortiz and they come on some guys who play centerfields i see bloody centerfields and athlete
can't even play centerfield you never know about him reduced i don't know if he did i don't know that
david you're saying judge it'll be on the air right now man you're throwing that out there on
the air right now that judge is doing something not off that oh get out of here guys head guys heads

(01:28:40):
his eyes are six bone balls he makes very bonds are small he looked that way it's in college at
fresno he started really are you kidding me i know now if you want to you want to say stan is doing
something let's test him and get rid of him i think stan's clean let's test him i think soto's
clean we couldn't get we couldn't get that lucky you could fit two of berry bonds heads and one of

(01:29:01):
the judges hats he fixed his teeth though in the off season i mean right got those cleaned up
i'll tell you man he fixes his teeth he's good at those and that's all he does his teeth oh god
hey angry j remember we had that bat about the martian yeah he's playing and he should be up in
the majors so you're gonna pay me because it was a major league at bat and i understand but i

(01:29:26):
can't love the organization is holding them back that guy's ready to play that's part of
your guys part of reason i made the bet your bet was about cold it was about the mingas i said he
would be up by the end of may and today's the second or last day i mean he should be but he should
be a Yankee land he's tearing it up sox are 500 about cold uh i said cold probably by the all

(01:29:51):
start break anyway at the time so cold coming back the Yankee fans i mean the only thing we
can really complain about i still hate torres um but is the pitching like what's gonna happen when
cold comes back who doesn't start and you'd have to think it was Cortes and conveniently we already
got somebody on the shelf so what's his injury lat he's not he's not gonna pitch in the major leagues

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until the middle late august he didn't have a sliding mid on while warming up in um california
you don't want to talk about hose a heal he's a stud louis louis yeah he's uh louis yeah he's
hose's middle name howl i know hose's middle name look it up he actually played jay he baseball

(01:30:38):
arm and he actually threw eight of these last night which is an Yankee land is like two complete
games in a row he's been he's been terrific though it's not 234 pitches but yeah it's pretty it's a lot
we've been waiting for a guy like that don father you have a lot to say tonight we're
shifting gears let's just admit it the Yankees are awesome can you name three socks socks are 500

(01:31:01):
yes we have half the payroll the Yankees and more than half the way to the right where we should be
small market i would check that payroll again getting no hit tonight check it got them right
where we want it is a pretty muddy mode just right in the middle we're just hovering we're
just hovering we're gonna make our move grab a pattern for a while dowels up 29 at half maybe

(01:31:23):
we'll get uh and that's that minnesota correct remember we'll get chris sail back he's helping out
seems like figures whatever all right yeah he was washed up right another swinging a miss by the
socks okay we got a trivia section coming up sponsored by the father and angry jay just kidding
sponsored by joe mariello and skygaze are brewing coming out with a new shandy series which people

(01:31:47):
are really into in the summer i didn't know that don father astak don father hit it we talked about
uh tatum and brown who's mr clutch because brown hit that huge game winning shot against the other
pacers so who in nba history has the most game winning shots in the nba playoffs player or team
or what do we know one player one player most game winning shots and it's not jordan i didn't say it

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wasn't jordan i mean everyone has a jordan and everyone would be wrong kobe no it is not kobe
nba history or playoff history nba playoff just playoffs give us a little hint because i love
have a check no hondo it's a great guest though uh he is still active still active man no way no

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what would you just do the act of like a sheep think it was one of a goat sound but yeah i'm
calling bullshit on that right there i want to see the stats actually what does he get the game
winner if he hit like a minute and a half to go nine nine nine game winning shots the brown james
got nine well jay the brown jay nine game winning shots in the playoffs for the goat or he had what

(01:33:06):
eight yeah that was eight playoffs and seven in his career he lost one for the regular yeah i want to
see that like i want to really buy it don father next okay i don't make that stuff up oh side note
i'm seeing that anger and i were talking who is the all-time leader in batting average in midway
baseball history uh we used to be tired it used to be the george apiche used to be ty kow who is it

(01:33:33):
now as of yesterday i don't know josh gibson josh gibson 372 average i said it was a different sound
coming off the bat though they all say that it was also a different league so i don't know it really
counts but just throwing random stats out there you know had to it wasn't the major leagues no well
why does it count now they incorporated the negro league stats all time we don't know all time we

(01:33:57):
don't home runs yeah hold up as yesterday they integrated all the negro league stats yeah why is
a different league yeah but we're gonna take the japan stats too honestly i saw a lot of how was
eight sixty her shall walkers uh they're different like that's gonna count pretty soon too yeah yeah

(01:34:18):
i mean everyone should be honored in whatever way they they deserve but like so different leagues
yep you know what's funny is josh gibson could very well be the best baseball player or a point
but they said his home runs about 800 that's the stack about 800 look it up at any reference

(01:34:39):
approximately yes approximately as a better word right and when did he play circuit circle what
like fifties right 50s 60s no they legendary stories about like a far 800 or four so you
can put that on somewhere around so if you get like 798 does the other guy still get it because
you're we have an exact number but you're about 800 it could be 802 they got to change that that

(01:35:04):
ain't right they oh they just did yesterday yesterday who did who did it made like baseball
there's cooper style acknowledging this and baseball reference it's all over it it says
800 home runs baseball reference i don't mind it's just a sad fact three get the major baseball so
josh gibson's the new career batting house later with i think it was 372 to tycobs 367 373

(01:35:26):
all right so we talked about nba playoffs points for game and clutch shots in the playoffs so
seven of the 10 highest average points per game for nba playoff playoff history since we're talking
playoffs are still active that number surprised me by the way highest points per game the nba playoffs
seven of the 10 are still active other than jordan career or single season career okay other than

(01:35:52):
jordan who are the other two hardened luka no no the other two other than jordan no longer active
alan everson alan everson is number three there's one more that's number five that's not active
coby not pshak oh neither one of my top 10 no kin top 12 actually because i went down 12

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you gotta get up he's older i'm saying he pre-80s pre-playoff expansion will well yeah
wrong uh korean tone
micah the logo jerry get out of here number five all time playoff points for game everybody

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else said yeah wuka is actually number two all time playoff average 31 points a game behind only
jordan is where's brunson oh god i only worked on a 30 i think there was a minimum i think there was
a minimum of like seven playoff ones in the career so i think you're seeing any more boss
musicians guys you're just lucky wait till next year oh do you that's a body of ten

(01:37:01):
do you i'm at oh gee coming back i got two more quick ones so yankees uh 83 home runs for
for team weeding your major leagues who's second who's last last gotta be the mess
i can tell you the Yankees have more than double i'll go last place to me marlins i'll go

(01:37:23):
baltimore furrier team mr and baltimore second yeah good call angry marlins last
white socks white socks yeah i'll go there 30 table good call team home runs Yankees have 83
83 seems low too for what six almost 60 games well judge judge soda when fraud frauds and
don't figures you're 17 15 13 i don't think the i don't think the balls are juiced anymore

(01:37:48):
i don't think so huh no you guys here buddy you might have heard the stack because torres only has
three does he have three he had one good year may 29th was the anniversary of uh
uh of uh joan eekron might have heard this on the news joan eekron had one home run in his
major league baseball career he had a lot of bads he pitched forever you know play some

(01:38:09):
nationally games joan eekron i feel right joe joe yeah his one home run who do you hit it off of
phil phil he's got it here was that was that a guess again 158 with one home run first career
only home run he ever had may 29 76 that's pretty good you owe to one i'm gonna end on a

(01:38:33):
i'm gonna end on a blind resume here so two nfl quarterbacks should i get super bowls yes or no
because it might be easier to guess if you add super bowls and i can just give her stats just
stats all right quarterback one tell me who more impressive all right 249 games quarterback two
231 games i'll just go over quarterback one first two 49 he had 165 touchdowns 81 interceptions

(01:39:01):
64 000 yards i'm rounding till the nearest hundred for yards 418 touchdowns 249 games
165 touchdowns i'm sorry that's wrong 249 i'm confused already you already said touchdowns
what i went wins and losses wins and losses yeah let's go all right cracker right he's down

(01:39:23):
i'm starting all okay games 249 wins the losses 165 and 81 that was his record all right 165
uh 64 000 yards 418 passing touchdowns that's correct 418 okay quarterback two 231 for game so
it's similar a few s record 148 75 winning percentage really close 59 000 yards close 475 passing

(01:39:51):
touchdowns well you're giving me a very same any one of these guys it's paying many one of these
guys you're giving me a very similar one of them is active one of them is not both in the last
one they're both playing the last 10 years so the guy with the more yards had the more
touchdowns took got the more yards no more yards of 64 000 higher 408 64 000 to 59 000 barb

(01:40:17):
uh how about Matt Ryan i'm gonna give you one you can guess the other
i'll give you the active one erin rogers erin rogers is active i'll give you a huge quarterback
two frees 231 games fill fill rivers nope rathersburg big bend so more super bowls as well so people

(01:40:38):
would say that well then they're both hall of famers right everybody you ask anybody today they
say erin rogers better quarterback better career yeah only thing he has more of his touchdowns we also
beat big bad in the super bowl 40 percent it's almost the exact same and has two and has two
super bowls over rogers both are super unlikeable but rogers is not we have a lot of similarities

(01:41:02):
here i believe it's for you i mean blind resume you wouldn't think those two were that close
on the blind you sure one of those guys wasn't bernie 400 something touchdowns
i mean it's almost one of series camp it was Brian's height i thought that's right i want to
talk about super balls lotty see there it is i get it real quick word association game good job
down father word association game right here we're talking baseball only i'm gonna say i'm gonna say

(01:41:26):
the word you say the player that comes to mind smooth well carc jeep like that um crocker
i just got i lost my train of thought all right carc you're telling me jeep wasn't smooth get out

(01:41:48):
of here speed first guy that comes to mind ricky that was the first guy that came to my mind was
colman as well well you know what i have colman's teammate because i could picture him scampering
around bases willy willy migay okay well that's time her tough what's that tough tough

(01:42:09):
dustin for joya what a fake like what a fraud that guy was jesus christ he just rolled around the
ground like curt chilling ground ball oh my god i'm gonna say tough tough curt gibson i don't
thermon bunson actually a great great player yeah he was all right um i'm gonna say come on

(01:42:29):
i'll draw you ever talk about the more arts george bretton wants to talk about laying the plane
that that's that's an appropriate down here
the that's input joya would chose the iron man dive into third baseman not even a flight
that's a good call kevin nobody talked about rippon jr baseball first first guy that comes to

(01:42:50):
mind he's talking about geerig with the glove vacuum donnie ballgame broke schrobbinson
hazy smith i go smitty to the wizard i like the wizard that uh double play
you could say one or two guys tinker is the average the chance would occur in uh trample good one

(01:43:17):
your turn yep i'm saying jim rice because he hit him
so many of them uh did you go yeah i ran off in dent i love it how about hose from the outfield
hose barfield here he talked to white evidence hose again he's yeah i'll take flat i like bow

(01:43:43):
too yeah they just had something i just saw some people dance literally like the five best throws
and some of these guys i think he had one was amazing from like the wall the third on the fly
nephew press he like he like ruben seara the ball remember uh was it suspitous yeah oh and
he has been for the rest of us man um lastly uh long ball

(01:44:09):
the babe i actually think of rickie jackson because that was when i was as a kid that was a big thing
why are i think of griffey just because at camden we have those little monuments out there
griffey has one on that warehouse and maybe there's a further one but when i see that the
few times i've seen it and then i looked the home plate i can't believe how far that

(01:44:32):
whole drop of my derby did it glad you're right i couldn't hit a golf ball that far all right
hold on one more one more quick stat i just write something every day
right i was just trying to read this one is acting real good i've got a lot of james one you know
each row after after after each row is 10th at bat his batting career batting average never
get below 300 yeah his entire career after 10 at bats after put 10 000 we got to put his

(01:44:57):
japanese at bats and now so hey if you combine his hits with his major leagues it teased the
all-time hit leader now there we go we're changing rules as we go major league baseball it's you're
oh angry jay what do you got you're up you got the trivia question you guys are never going to get
this oh good let's just sit around and look at we got 13 13 you kind of husky basketball players

(01:45:20):
who played in the mcdonald's all-star game can you name a bill in the waiver i can give you i
give you years you got bill in the waiver go ahead and rip hawkins rip rip is too who
you're gonna hawkins tonight and make it dude i think i'll cancel stop on castle life's three
he did in 2023 we got villain waiver in 03 we got rip hamilton in 96 daniel daniel in 91 the

(01:45:45):
second husky to do it the second husky corny corny tomsen it was the first in 1978
bloody meadowton high wow was corny in it he was not no he was like 30 did ray play it you want to
go years no he's like 30 like why years no okay um all done you're like Travis night had to play

(01:46:11):
got the first two who's the first three corny got done yelling did you say ray on i'm sorry he said
ray on his phone he said ray booknight no she passed to league brown playing it no rudie gay rudie gay
yes sir 2004 how many we got here's your kid one two three four five six we got there's seven more

(01:46:35):
can you give us their jersey numbers for the house no i'll give you 1997 was the farthest guy way that
you haven't got 1997 wow there's a lot of camo planted camo did plant it that was all way but
that wasn't so 97 uh was it uh collid collid boom so we're missing there was two guys in 2000

(01:46:57):
so that team was the okra 14 that one at all had to be on that team well i said going away but
uh who else was on that team who else was on that uncle for uncle hilty no no way uh ben gordon
that's a good guess not rishad denim was not from boom united states

(01:47:23):
who is it point card of that to leak to leak brown was one of that air oh my god you're gonna
be shocked at this one another guy that did you say that did you say to leak brown i thought he did
no he didn't well we're gonna listen to the so we're missing i apologize if i did there was also
another guy why she said denim brown but he said i would never say i'm brown number 21 at russon

(01:47:48):
not ricky you're not a huge fan of wait what was he in anguish also 2000 people to leak brown
in the McDonald's game he transferred he did not finish that you can transfer to you can
or no no out of you where did he transfer to give it away yes okay i've got one more and i don't

(01:48:11):
like him you do not like him you told me past stories oh what's going on there i got one more
guess what he thinks about drumming no no nice guest what year 2000 do you want to school i think
he's like i'm not even positive i'm pretty sure you you are i was oh oh hazelton sky hazelton yes

(01:48:33):
he's in mcdonald's yes we're missing three guys two oh nine he was on a national championship team
he also did not finish at uconn rossko or yaki boom so we're missing 2016
this guy did not have much of a career at uconn he definitely transferred to boy's not a good player
at uconn was he a good player somehow he's from now i think so he's from georgia i believe um like

(01:48:58):
i think this is a guy right who's a guard guard i mean guard uh is this ollie timer no 2016 2016
ollie was the coach no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
last guy has not played a game yet but will soon i like him he's the one that kept hurting his

(01:49:20):
children yes okay this guy has not actually played a game or it was the kid that was supposed to go
to indiana yeah cam mcnealy no Liam Liam mcnealy yes 13 i said a bruin all right you got
no that was that was awesome man that's fun guys we're gonna wrap it up um bill walton um some people

(01:49:44):
laugh at him like he's a dick vital i couldn't wait to hear him on whatever broadcast i love what
he would call the pack 10 the conference of champions uh he obviously played basketball in an
era where these kids couldn't couldn't hack it nowadays with the tough physical post play
in the like the hard files and just physicality not just because you're in the weight room because

(01:50:04):
it actually was a bloodbath um and a highly skilled game your thoughts on bill walton
don father you first not a fan why not shocker expect that he'd like to hear himself talk more
than like to hear anything else he just reminds me of somebody talked and talked and talked and he
just would find one player i mean if you loved some dynamite which was one thing i liked about him

(01:50:29):
yeah but he'd latch on one person that's all he talked about for the entire game he was almost
unwatchable when he was broadcasting a game you're you're making this podcast almost unlistenable um
i loved him um one of the greatest college players ever his career usually is off the
charts he's a guy that what could have been he won an mvp report and led him to a championship and

(01:50:53):
then broke his foot and it was never ever healthy but one thing i did love bottom was his enthusiasm
for the game of basketball as you got older and he was one of those guys that was the one thing
that don father didn't like bottom i loved him about he was so enthusiastic during all these
games and stuff body was also part of the greatest team of all time the 86 else i want to talk about

(01:51:16):
that team six man body let me jump in before you because at that time in my life i was still a
lakeer fan and i one of my favorite highlights of anything ever in any sport is when verse stole
that ball and they beat that they beat the pistons him on the sideline in that short sleeve warm up

(01:51:38):
coat just with his hands over his head kind of like laughing to himself saying like this is there's
nothing better than this feeling and i he just really bought into the bird thing and the Celtic
thing and his stories are off the track that him on the sidelines not participating because his
knees are shot at this point that's what sports is all about and i'm gonna miss the guy i really am

(01:52:01):
ladi i just cracker will chime in let's go i'll tell you what i gotta go down i don't think you can
mix the playing career with the broadcasting career i couldn't stand listen to the guy do a
game i couldn't i couldn't take it dominique wilkins isn't a great broadcaster now i mean jesus
we're not talking about him well as somebody as you know that loves college basketball in the history

(01:52:26):
he was probably what one of the top five college players of all time
i mean he was 21 for 22 in an nca final to jay's point injuries ravaged his mba career
um but i still think he was one of the best you know 75 players of all time so besides like the

(01:52:49):
playing stuff i just loved that he loved and enjoyed life whether you like them as a commentator
or not there's something to be said for people like that because you don't you don't find them and
you don't listen to guys like that anymore everybody's miserable and depressed about something
didn't seem like that guy was um so that's what i'm gonna hang on to like we need more people like

(01:53:10):
that yeah my opinion so quick trivia this since we do it what number did he wear with four owned
30 okay with the selix five there we go how about ucla 32 and the captain was what at ucla 33 33
yeah of course it was who could ever take 33 88 game winning streak right before the irish

(01:53:32):
strikes him off yeah and he took the last shot yeah i think he had multiple shots within the last 15
all right it's been a long night everybody capital securities joe mariello thank you very much studio
engineer kevin ross fucking crocker finally chimed in after an hour and 40 don father cranky tonight

(01:53:53):
man well i'm not here huh what i miss angry jay with the language is not uh our rated angry jay gave up on that screw it
and it do what you gotta do okay see you next time everybody

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