NBA Draft 2024

The Bristle Boyz are back. After a brief summer respite, the Boyz discuss the NBA draft with a Donovan Clingan insider, the demise of the Yankees and a little Hook C baseball. Plus, angry Jay shares some funny stories about the late, great Keith Harkness. RIP Harky.

Episode Transcript

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It's been a while but we're back on June 27th, today after the first round of the 2024

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NBA draft, be a main topic of conversation tonight.
It is the Bristol Boys.
Not the Bristol Boys, the Bristol Boys.
Watching the Anks get smoked again in a terrible three week headspin, tailspin.
Everybody's here, studio owner.
Angry Jay, never happy.

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Donfather blew us off but the commish.
Stepped aside from football parental duty to be here.
Studio engineer Kevin Ross with a unique perspective on the NBA draft tonight.
And Crocker.
To Crocker you know what is here in the studio.
Twitter, Instagram.
Jay, what is it?
Bristol underscore boys.

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What is he?
You can still catch some Lottie and Mack out there.
I'm getting beat up by the Illinois fans because of some comments I made about Terrence Shannon
which I stand by.
Oh holy shit.
Sprayers just hit another homer.
Jay watch the language.
Jesus look at this guy.
It's not religious.
Not religious.

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Okay and this episode is Broccoli's fight and Skygazer brewing.
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Yeah.

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He would have done great at the NBA draft.
We're going to get to that in a minute.
Quick hitters.
Very soon guests will be head coach of the Connecticut Huskies Hooksies as we like to
call them Jim Penders.
They finished at number 14 in one pole.
Probably the biggest pole right Johnny?
Number 15 and number 19.
So for a team that he's he said you know they were a starless team but a lot of Connecticut

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flavor on there some division three transfers from Connecticut kid from you know the Goshen
area.
Yeah a bunch of them.
Yeah.
Husatonic kid.
They finished number 14 in the country.
You tell me this isn't one of the best coaches around.
You know what I like.
He said something recently.
He goes we're not a regional team.
We're a national team.
He elevated that from from nothing right.

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To do that in the Northeast unbelievable you know year after year he's there you know even
this is like would have been like a down year but he got there and they you know they won
their first series and hey it was a great year for them.
And they did struggle in their you know Southern schedule early and everyone was saying that
knew something like just wait till they get into the Big East and look what they did.
They got an out large.
Yeah they said they're at large so he you know their reputation is there you know.

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Yeah at large without winning the Big East tournament.
Yeah which is something here.
Commit.
When we were high school players and aspiring for all this kind of stuff.
Do you remember who the program in the Northeast was.
They were in a little colder spot than we are.
Maine.
Maine the black bears and actually the Kid Pena the shortstop for the Astros.

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I think he went to you Maine.
Or other major league or play at the University of Maine.
Give me a hint.
Play shortstop in major leagues.
Not Derek Jetter from the Yankees.
No.
Not Spike Owen he went to Texas buddy.
Mike Bordek.
Mike Bordek.
He was a good player.
Yeah he didn't walk wise so he seemed to feel that like off to the side like Hollywood

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you know.
I'll take Jeter.
Anyway good for Hook C. Stick him with baseball.
Yanks were rolling.
Yeah eight nothing in the bottom of the second.
It's one game.
Yanks were rolling.
The pitching was rolling.
The hitting was unstoppable.
And I'm going to tell you something.

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Soto had to sit out one game and I went downhill from there.
I'm just saying that's the effect Juan Soto has.
And DJ coming back didn't help either.
DJ has stymied the offense but that other guy that plays middle and field that now needs
a break and all this stuff he got to go.
We've always said he has to go.
Lottie shaking his head and disgust over here.
What's the definition of insanity.

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Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results right.
Drizzle was shot last year.
Obviously he's hurt now but he was shot last year.
Torres has been shot since the the juice ball has gone away.
La Mayhew.
When's the last time he had an extra base hit.
It's like a full calendar year now basically right.
Verdugo's following off the map.

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That's your guide oh.
I like Verdugo but he's not a fore hitter though.
Cal Ripken Stanton got hurt though.
Can you believe that.
Stanton got hurt.
It's hard to believe.
They got a guy.
18 honors.
Who I threw harder than when I was eight years old.
It's just a very flawed team.
18.
I'm from Torres just frustrates me beyond.

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Well what you always say about him sums them up.
They've enabled him and he's not a winning player.
Not a winning player.
Boone has enabled it.
He hasn't disciplined him in any way although this might be a slight discipline second straight
game not playing but we're well past.
We're well past Torres and the Mayhew's of the world and Trevino's they're boring.

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You know whose attitude never changes when he's out there.
Cabrera the kid's hungry to play baseball.
He's just not any good.
He's just he's not any good.
You gotta you can have a player that's not any good that just plays well because he's
in the right spot.
He started in left field two years ago in the playoffs.
But he's a perfect utility guy.

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He's not like an everyday guy.
I don't want him to be an everyday guy.
Yeah he's on a good team.
He's a utility guy.
Yeah he's Homer Bush, Bellinger, Tyler Wade, Ronnie Toreto.
I don't have any problem with him being on the roster.
Velarde my man Velarde.
Would you rather run him out there than La Mayhew?
Yes.
Yeah.
What about you?
Just the energy something angry J don't want to me.

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What's an all-star at every position?
He wants a ride here.
You know come on man.
What are you talking about an all-star.
You don't like Cabrera.
I want like goddamn baseball players.
You know what's gonna happen.
You're not a baseball player.
He's a clown.
We got a general we got a generational player.
What's this guy talking about.
That's not gonna sniff a title with judge.
Judgey?
Generational player he will not sniff a title as long as boon and cashmen.

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Like we when we started this two years ago we talked about this.
That's why we started it.
Nothing's changed though.
Well speaking of the cash clown a little pressure was off him because of the good start.
But don't worry about it we picked up Tim Hill for the bullpen.
Jason's I didn't know he's still alive Jason's good for him.

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That's some guy named TJ.
I think I think Tora started when they tried the shortstop experiment it was 2018.
That was that that worked out well.
Was it 18.
I think it was the next year but you're right though.
So you talk about putting pressure on a guy and I don't I'm not giving him a pass.
I despise Taurus.

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He doesn't hustle.
But that year they moved in a short opening day.
You know we're hitting the lineup.
Yeah.
Meet off.
What'd you say?
Third.
He hit freaking third.
Third.
Okay.
All right buddy.
We're gonna move you across to the left side and you're gonna hit third and you're
gonna be the next start now.

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Nope.
Didn't work out and look what's happened to him since he's even worse.
Who do you take over at shortstop for?
Team has never been the same.
You're a boy.
They lost personality.
They lost the chemistry once they brought in the Torres's and Stanton's of the world.
They got Cabrera but he's not good enough for Jake because he's not a superstar.
I mean you need a guy like that.
I like Cabrera.
He don't like him.

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He's a baseball player.
This is nonsense.
Play Wells every day.
Play Wells every day.
It's 200.
Just play Wells every day.
I want to see what he could do.
Well speaking of hitting 200.
I'm with you.
He plays twice a week.
Now for this guy.
He wants Johnny Bench.
I would love Johnny Bench.
I know you would.

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I would take him now.
Throw better than Trevino.
You see him?
He's got Ken and Armie.
We need Zobras as the utility guy.
I think he's still really mean to Plotin' him because everything he hits it bounces
off.
Except the socks I can speak today.
The socks broke a record with steals in that game.
Yeah.
It was like nine.
We know.
Studio engineer.

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Can you wait till the NBA section?
Bobby Mack.
Bobby Mack.
Those Yankee fans here.
When they go south, have you ever seen a team play so poorly when they go south?
They're non-competitive for the last three weeks.
That's not normal to not be competitive.

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They played the socks.
I was thinking that the game they salvaged from the Braves, which I think was game three
of the series.
Am I wrong about that?
Yeah.
What game did they win?
I think it was two.
You think or you know?
Pretty sure it was two.
Either way, they salvaged one.
Then they beat the Orioles in the first game.
They salvaged one.
That was it.
No, I thought we'd get healthy against the Blue Jays and they're down 100 and nothing

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tonight.
And the Mechs?
Can anyone explain that?
And Garrett Colgate was a real shot in the arm.
But here's their excuses though.
They called a bomb or whatever and Boone literally says afterwards, well, he wasn't throwing
that hard.
He didn't want to throw that hard because he's not ready.
Then they shouldn't have brought him up.
Exactly.

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Then they shouldn't have brought him up.
How about he just had a bad night?
Yeah.
So they benched Torres, but he's like, well, he has a groin injury.
What?
Come on, dude.
They're organization stank, dude.
They're not serious.
They're not serious.
They're not $300 million.
They're not serious.
They have two, like two out of five best players in baseball and they surround them with a

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bunch of losers.
You know what the dagger is though, anger J?
Dominguez could have slotted in.
Yeah, but we had to make up an injury because Dan actually got a couple of hits.
They're like, oh, he's back.
Well, he's back.
All right.
Now this guy is in on 18.
Is an oblique really two months?
A two month injury?

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It's another year.
I mean, two months before he could swing a bat.
I don't even know what the oblique is.
I think it's your stomach.
I think what's he doing?
Oh, he's hard to stomach.
Lottie.
Yes, sir.
I got to call you out on this.
You said when he was doing okay before the injury, you said you would take 35 homers,

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90 RBIs and a 235.
I haven't bashed Dan tonight in this episode at all.
Yeah, okay, but these guys are starting and he sucks, dude.
Are you kidding me?
Like when he's got 18 homers, how many are you?
Who doesn't suck in baseball?
Like 246.
He's 246.
That's good.
As good as he's going to get.

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Listen, would you take as good as he's going to get or not?
No.
No, I think I made that point already.
I want a guy who can actually play the field and want the bases.
Are you going to root for him or not?
I root for all the Yankees, dude.
All right.
I'm a Yankee fan, but like I try to keep it real.
He sucks.
He's a terrible baseball player.
If he goes, if he was one trick pony, if he was 35, 100 and 250 this year, I would

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have signed for that all day long based on what he's given us to last three or four years.
I would have signed up for that in a heart.
In a heart.
In a heart.
But the problem is Bobby Mackie, he's going to be out for more than a month.
He's not come back to August.
And then it takes a month for him to start swinging again.
Now with that yoga body, he's got.
Yeah.

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He's got a muscle bound up.
Yeah.
I mean, Rizzo had a, he had a concussion and he never recovered.
We're trading.
We're for a first baseman period.
Well, you got to get a second baseman and a third baseman and a catcher.
I mean, you get, there's too many guys that they know.
You play compared to a nice job.
He did a nice job putting the team together.
We only need a first baseman, a second baseman, a third baseman and a closer and a catcher

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and a closer.
We got the catcher.
Who's that?
Well, he needs, he needs to play every day.
Then play him.
I'm thinking 198 for this season.
Well, yes.
You're not as high on Wells as I am.
I think he's a pretty good catcher, decent arm.
You can't play a rookie two games a week.
No, you just can't.
I understand.

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Yeah, you have to play him.
You know, it's not easy.
Tim Hill.
We got Tim Hill.
I don't know.
We're still in first place for one more day.
We got a solid game on these guys.
When you compare the lineups, you see what the Orioles are running out there.
Orioles are young.
Unbelievable.
How good is Gunner Henderson?

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Jesus.
They're so good and young that they want Orioles eight Rangers one today.
They're so good and young.
They think they're squawking about Mullins now.
I think Mullins and Arp.
I mean, we don't need outfielders.
Two, three years ago, he was a stud.
He's not playing as much.
You see like their fourth outfielder.

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No, he's playing.
And another thing tonight.
They were complaining about him a couple of weeks ago.
No, they're good.
He's no Trent Grisham.
As soon as they got rid of Buck, the organization went like this.
They got rid of Buck.
Who's the next manager that Yankee's going to be after this year?
Some Math nerd.
Math nerd.

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Math nerd we've never heard of.
The only two I take are Donnie or Coney.
You got to get off the Donnie thing.
It's not happening.
I don't know who would win that.
I have no idea who's the next manager would be.
Who would think of Math?
Donnie?
It's not happening.
What about Osmos?
Maybe Sly Osmos in there?
Oh, geez.
I get on the podcast.

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Would you take the guy from the Red Sox if they didn't resign him?
He'd never get along.
He would never get along with Cashman.
Bigger problem is Cash.
Guys, I'm going to try to be positive about this.
Get rid of Torres for starters.
Get a closer.

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We'll figure out first base.
We'll make a traitor do also in a bullpen.
We're in first place.
What are we complaining about?
Here's the issue, Bobby Mack.
You got 52 wins.
You're all star breaking.
With the landscape, the baseball, and the amount of teams that make the playoffs now,
there's not going to be a ton of guys available.
There's not going to, in their minor league system, there's nobody coming through.

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Not asking for a lie.
They want a hustling second baseman.
Remember we had Jerry Hereston back in the days?
I'd take a guy like that.
I do remember him.
I'd take a guy like that.
I'd take a...
They won a World Series with Viscayano as their second baseman.
Take him.
Sojo.
Take him.
Brian.
Brian Roberts.
Well, he wasn't a great Yankee because he was hurt.

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But no, he's better than this guy.
He runs.
Come on.
Is that when we had...
Look at Mariano Duncan.
We played today.
We win today.
That's it.
Let's take Castro.
Castro was an underrated Yankee.
Unfortunately, they got rid of him in the Stanton trade.
He went to Miami.
You did.
Well, you wanted a power hitter.

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So you got him.
I wanted another right-handed power hitter that played right field at the time.
That's what we needed.
Gleiber entering free agency.
He's hitting 2.15 with 7.8 strikeouts opposed to 31 walks.
Got a groin injury.
Seven home runs to 29 RBIs.
Like, you talk about a guy who's ruining it for himself.
A guy who hit 30 something home runs six years ago.
He should have went to the Royals.

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38.
He should have went to KC.
You know who's raking right now?
Our boy Miguel Andujar.
Let's bring him back.
Where is he?
Pirates?
A's, I think.
Well, the A's don't count.
How's Clint Fraser doing?
Out of baseball.
How about Brandon Drewry, who started at third for us?

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Then they said he couldn't see.
For like a week.
All of a sudden he was blind.
He was blind after opening day.
Mr. Magoo.
Mr. Magoo.
He's only going to be out a couple of games.
He never played another game.
Thank God he moved the walking stick.
I think that as Jay calls him, the propaganda machine that is the New York Yankees, the

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Yes Network is starting to turn on guys like Torres.
And we're hoping for better things.
And Coney and O'Neill will call these suckers out.
Let's turn toward hoops.
Yukon.
A lot of new faces.
Can they do it?
Can they do it with these new faces?

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I mean, it's fun to talk about because they won two in a row.
Like, it's not like you could talk about a three-peat with some scrub team.
They got two in a row with a few pieces coming back.
And the kid who was heading the Indiana shifted course to Yukon.
I mean, they say he could put it into who?
McNeely.

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McNeely, yeah.
Why not?
You know who else has new faces?
Every other program in the country because of the landscape of college basketball.
So you got a great coach.
You got Caribbean back.
You got a great recruiting class.
And you got guys like Ball and Stewart that are a little bit hungry and looking for a bigger
role this year.
Why not?

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Michigan.
Yeah.
Reed.
Is that his name?
Reed.
Yep.
I mean, you can't doubt the guy right now, the coach, you know?
I mean, you can get him there.
Get there early late eight and it can happen, you know?
They're hot.
They're used to it.
I mean, see what's going on.
We turned down Kentucky.
Turned down to Lakers.
I want to talk about Kentucky.
What separates Hurley from being a Calipari?
We're now just everyone who wants to go and play for him.

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Like Calipari had that going for a minute and he became such like a bad coach, I guess.
He was just a recruiter.
He was just a recruiter.
He just got the best talent.
I know.
I was going to kill stuff like that now too.
You know, because where do you go to?
Arkansas.
Arkansas.
And he left on his own?

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I mean, they had to tell him, right?
They probably should.
Arkansas deal was huge too.
His deal?
Yeah.
I just think with the Yukon's coaching staff, the way they teach offense, they're always
going to be a threat to be a national champ.
I just think that coaching staff is phenomenal.
I really do.

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Speaking of recruiting, another team we talk about happens to be having a nice little spring.
Nice little early summer.
And we're talking about Ace Bailey and the boys.
We're not going to overblown because we're going to wait and they're talking.
I'll do the, not going to what?
We're not going to overhype them.

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They're talking.
We'll speak for itself.
Overblown, you see any of those highlights though?
They got him in the mock drafts next year going one or two already.
One.
One.
All right.
So isn't Cooper flag the guy?
No.
Cooper flag.
You got to.
I'm just serious.
Like, yeah, they, they say this kid's like Garnett, which would probably excite you.

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I hate Cooper flag all of a sudden.
I'm talking about these Bayley.
So does Hurley.
He was pissed that he missed the Billy Jill concert because he had a recruiting visit
with him last year.
Yeah.
All right.
So college can't wait for it.
I didn't want to go there.
I didn't want to go there.
Ace Fraley.
You're saying this?
Oh yeah.
You wait.

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Um, how about, how about that though?
Like they're having college practice right now.
I mean, think you think things haven't changed.
The Celts took it home.
Angry J.
What thoughts on the Celts?
Great team.
It's a real, it's a real team.
It's fun to watch guys actually care about each other.

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Maybe somebody's NBA teams and I got to give the next credit.
They instead of doing what everybody else is doing with like try to get superstars, they're
actually investing in like actually having a team where guys care about each other.
Just bringing back all of them over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it like makes a difference that, you know, I mean, look at, if you look at some

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of the stats that the Celts had from last year to this year, like guys scoring went backwards
for Tatum Brown drew a holiday was like seven or eight points less.
How good was that guy?
Like how good is it?
You know, there, Hawaii, I mean, Jay, as a hardcore fan, I'm going to give you that.
Can we at least admit that this product that the NBA is putting out there is not the one

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we grew up to love.
Oh, it's totally different.
I mean, it's a different game.
It's a much different.
I thought the next one was the funnest team to watch in the playoffs to be honest with
you.
I'll go with the Celts.
I'll stand like, yeah, your team won and they were, they were really good.
I'm pumped, man.
I was pumped.
Funnest.
I would say Brad Stevens did an amazing job over just the holiday and Port Zingas
editions.
They were funner than the next.

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He built the team.
Funnier.
He built the team.
And that's what the Nica Backers are doing.
That's what they're doing.
Yeah.
Instead of, instead of getting one of these losers like Harden or Kyrie or anything.
Durand, that wants to move.
Yeah.
Funnest.
There's something to be said for keeping those teams together.
And they just, they get better every year.
What do you get?

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What's going on over there?
I'm trying to talk.
I'm trying to talk at a sports podcast here.
This guy's talking about Peter Lonzo having an off here.
Yeah, so let's go Celts.
All right.
So the Villanova model with the Knicks.

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Could a local team take on the same model with the Huskies and get together one of the
greatest leaders of all time according to Donovan and Dre.
Hawkins, Newton, Big Guy, Castle.
Could they do that on the NBA level?

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Bring her all the way over to the Nets maybe.
Seriously.
Or you got to wait.
You got to wait four years to see once those first contracts are over.
When people start moving around.
Is that kind of what Nova did?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Steven Senzo was done with his four.
Brunson was done with his four.
Hearts bounced around a little bit.

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And none of us have predicted that Brunson would be Brunson.
Well, I didn't answer.
So is there a Yukon guy that could be that guy?
Probably Castle.
Have to be Castle.
Some of them would have to be less than successful in those four years.
You just couldn't afford all of them being if they were successful four-year player.

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Castle went four in the draft.
Brunson was a second round pick.
Was he?
Yeah.
Castle's not a great offensive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We saw the power of yet.
Farner.
His physical attributes are just off the charts for a guard though.
But his shot is a struggle.
He's going to have to get a lot better on that.
He was one of the leading scorers in the final four though.

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I mean, his game elevated.
He did.
You know, he missed what, a month for the knee injury?
About that.
Yeah.
Really?
And then he came back from.
He's not a knockdown shooter though.
If you've watched some of these guys like Jemon Laughin at Westbrook.
Westbrook's a Hall of Famer.
He backs off him and laughs.
Like he's got to be able to hit, you know, if not three-pointers, like pull up 15s and

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all that.
Just they're going to back off him.
They're going to do that.
They're going to still get people off him too.
Yeah, I was amazed by like Pazinga, what do you say his name?
Pzinga?
Pzingas.
Pzingas.
Pzingas.
How quick his releases, you know, on top of, you know.
Yeah, it's not even in his hands.
The Oak will do that.
The Oak will do that.
Okie-dokie.
No, congrats to the Celtics.

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Steven's did a good job assembling that team.
But I'd say if the Knicks were healthy, Knicks and Sebbon.
Oh my God.
Eastern Conference finals, Knicks and Sebbon.
Jay, do you like the coach and love the coach?
What's your thoughts on that?
I'm all right with him.
I don't know.
He's weird.
I kind of like it.
Well like this, I was reading an article how Yadoka, Yadoki, how do you say it?

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I'm Yadoka.
Yeah.
He's like, he was really, they thought he was going to be a really good coach and screwed
around literally and lost the chance to this team.
He probably could have, you know, maybe won something earlier.
When they had him they thought.
I hope that sex was worth it.
Exactly.
He blew it.
He blew it.

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He was just the funnest couple months of his life.
I'm sure it was worth it.
He over blew it.
Yeah.
He definitely over blew it.
Lottie.
Odds on favorite to win in next year, Celts easily.
Are the Knicks in that top five?
No, because the odds just came out today and the Knicks are actually with Tide for Second

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with Denver.
Second?
Yes.
He's got too much.
Celtics were like 250 to one and Knicks and a couple other teams were 800.
You think that's too high?
No, I think the Knicks are legitimately the second best team in the Eastern Conference.
They'll be like seven or eight teams that win.
You think it's too high?
You think it's too high?
I don't know if the Knicks are done yet.

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If they get rid of Randall, I'm going to have an unbelievable off season if he's not on
that team next year.
He can't be on that team.
That's a, they give up a lot of talent though, dude.
With Randall?
Yeah.
I guess the McBride's in a deal now?
No.
Harder.
You might want to check that.
I don't think so.

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He had surgery today.
Deuce.
That's the only thing I heard about him.
Is that why they drafted Colick?
Because Deuce is in the deal?
I think he's in the deal.
I don't think so.
Are they, are they signing?
That's Tibs guy.
Are they going to sign Hartenstein?
A lot of money for.
Knicks can only offer him four for 72 and other teams are like four for 90.

(26:02):
For Joe Klein?
I mean, if he wants to win a world championship and be remembered forever, he stays with the
Knickabongers.
Calla part B coach and Joe Klein this year with the Razorbacks.
That's all he is, right?
My own grief.
Sydney.
Anyway, Knicks, interesting sales champs.

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It's great to have them both be good at the same time.
It's been a while.
Last night, they selected players for new teams in the NBA.
It's called the NBA draft.
One of our guys was there.
We had a correspondent there for the pod.

(26:43):
We sent somebody out to the field.
The Bristle boys.
Well, Robert represented.
It was worth every penny.
We wanted the call on, but he's the only one that could set up the computer to make
a call.
Kevin Ross, studio engineer.
Like what are your big takeaways from the draft?
Not to get into the charter oak situation, just like the draft itself, the experience.

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You probably never thought you'd be going to someplace like that.
You probably never go back to one.
What's your takeaway?
It's impressive.
I mean, the amount of time and effort I think these kids, mostly kids now, put in to get
here and the amount of work that you see.
And then it's also become like a, to me, you know, it's funny, a fashion, as much a fashion

(27:32):
thing as anything else.
The red carpet beforehand, multiple sets they have on stage and things like that.
So I mean, it was, there was a red carpet outside.
I didn't see it, but I know what happened.
How many people were there?
That's a good question.

(27:53):
I know there was about 600 tickets left for the upper deck, but everything down low was
used, was filled up, but the only, the backside of Barclay was not, you know, because of the
stage was covered.
So I don't know what they, it holds.
That's a weird building, isn't it?
It is.
The way it is.
I mean, because it's kind of cool because it's a basketball arena.
So it's not hockey as well.
So all the seats are tighter.

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So you're right on top of the court.
So like, you know, because it's not, it has no hockey build out.
Were you in a regular seat?
Yeah.
So we're in the lower section.
So the boxes are mid the lower section and then there's an upper deck above the boxes.
And full service.
Yeah.
You could, you know, they had food and drink.

(28:36):
You would ask that.
They did have that.
I want to know, it's like a game.
What was the peer situation?
They had a self-serve.
They had this pretty cool thing where you actually scan your card before you go in and
somehow magically charges you when you walk out.
Who knows how it worked.
But you know, probably cost me $300 for those two high noons.
So yeah, they had, you know, not everything was open.

(28:58):
How long were you there at the event?
We got there at 6.30.
Whoa.
And maybe closer to seven.
And then, yeah, you know, we took our time getting in and then we stayed until 10.
No, nine something.

(29:20):
We didn't have to pick who cares, right?
We had to wait for Donovan to finish up with all of his media and then they pulled it.
They brought us all down and we got to go through the back area where all of the picks
were and the families and they were still doing photos.
And that's where we got some family photos and with Donovan and everything.
So it was pretty cool.
Was it, for Donovan, was a sense of relief for him?

(29:43):
What was, you know, that's got to be a lot of stress on a young kid like that.
Yeah, I mean, the crazy part is really didn't know.
I mean, heard late that Atlanta really liked the kid they picked.
He had a really great workout and that it was still, that it wasn't most likely going

(30:05):
that way.
SAR was pretty much going to Washington pretty much for a while.
And so then it was going to be at that three pick, you know, they were talking about all
these crazy trades trading up to get him traded.
And it never really came to fruition.
The Warriors blew it.
Yeah, there was, there was going to be a trade with Charlotte from Memphis.

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And then the way the pick before came out, their guy was still available.
They wanted their picks.
So they backed out of it.
And then basically Portland thought they had a 5% chance for Donovan to be there at seven.
And they took five.
Yeah, that's what they were banking on.
So they got their guy.
That's why the pick came out within less than five minutes.
I mean, the East Coast lost their guy, but they got their guy.

(30:54):
Bobby Mack, if he came out after his freshman year, Portland wanted him.
They wanted him since high school.
That's crazy.
Little segue, Commish, have you ever covered this event?
Yes, 2004.
Oh, get out.
And who was there?
Gordon and Okafour.
I think they went like back to back.
What was that at?

(31:14):
That was at MSG.
Were you on the floor?
I was, I was, I think I was in the middle.
LeBron was one that year, right?
No, I'm not sure.
Him and Okafour were in the same year, I thought.
No.
No, one, um.
That was the year before.
They were, LeBron was the year before that.
Yeah, LeBron was with Mellow, right?
Yeah, and Dwayne Wade.
Class of his class.
Wow, do you follow the NBA, right?

(31:36):
No.
Yeah, but I always...
That was Jair Nelson Jair.
I don't know who's number one.
I thought, I thought, check it out.
It was like 3 and 4, I think.
Maybe Gordon, Okafour, 3 and 4.
It was 2 and 3.
2 and 3 is what it was.
Okafour was 2.
Okafour was 2.
It was 1.
Gordon was 3, I'm trying to remember.
Krocker, speak up.
Hold on, I'm looking into it, man.
All right, so, Kamish, what was your, like, being with the poker protector and the pen?

(32:00):
My takeaway was that it was really exciting because they're coming off of national championship
like they were this year.
And it's a day where the kids are just so happy, but that's why I asked you about being
in relief because I remember like these kids have put in so much work to get there.
And where am I going to go?
How's it going to work out?
I mean, where you get picked is going to determine basically your life for a while.

(32:21):
So it was very exciting.
It was fun.
It was almost like the reward, you know, the dessert after a nice meal, you know, so to
speak.
Yeah.
It was a very fun time and I enjoyed it.
That's cool.
Now, back in those days, you still had to go back and beat the deadline to get the story
in.
Yeah, so these days, is it, it's either electronic or digital stuff or you waited for the next

(32:46):
day in the paper, right?
Yeah.
Like when's the deadline now?
Early, right?
Early, like eight or nine now.
Because there's very few places that print the paper.
Right.
So, but did you get yours in back then?
Oh yeah, we got it in.
It was fun.
They were...
Now, who would you like better?
Who was it easier to work with?
Gordon or Okaphar?
Okaphar.
Okaphar was great.
He was like a quote machine.

(33:07):
He was very smart.
But it did, like, bend a lot.
He was like, I always felt Ben was like, you know, it was Batman and Robin and Okaphar
was always Batman, but Ben was a really good player.
He was unbelievable.
What a score.
What a score.
Yeah, it's a good one.
Our friend Steve Turner probably like working with him because he probably would need him
in 2003.
Poor kid.
He struggled a little bit.
Well, for Ben to be third was a big deal.

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Who was number one that year?
For the record, Dwight Howard was 2004.
Ron was 2003.
Right, right, right, right.
No comment on Dwight.
But he didn't play in college, right?
High school kid?
Yeah, that's a good segue because six of the top 12 guys I was telling you this morning

(33:48):
did not play college basketball that I got picked last night.
So there was three guys from France who knew they were a hotbed, right?
Right.
Serbia and then two guys from the G League.
That did the skip.
Six of the top 12 guys did not play a second of college basketball.
And I don't know about the...
Are we screwing up over here then or what?

(34:10):
I mean, Colby Bryant, may he rest in peace, said it a year before he passed away, how
bad basketball was in the United States.
He said that you got to go over to Europe where they had these academies and they practice
six days a week and then they have one game.
And then in the United States, it's completely opposite.

(34:30):
So the fundamentals are overseas.
I'm still rooting for the Oak and kind of Castle, but anyway.
We kind of Castle.
What do you mean?
No, I love Castle, but like if I got to pick one that I want to do well.
You can pick both.
Of course.
Well, Castle's gonna do well.

(34:51):
He's in a system.
So try to question him.
I know.
Do they make the team?
No, they remind me of like the Denim Brown type of player.
And Denim went in the second round.
I was positive he'd make a team.
He didn't.
He was the last pick.
Charles Lewis and those type of guys.
Like, I mean, do you really think they're going to make a team?
Like Newton got a shot.

(35:11):
Special shot too.
He could shoot it.
He could shoot.
He's going to make it.
It doesn't mean he's going to play, but he's going to make a team.
He's going to.
12 guys.
He's going to be a, I think it's 15, but a big time practice player.
He's 12.
Spets are a winner, man.
They all dress 12.

(35:31):
They dress 12.
Yeah.
I said that.
Yeah.
And so Spencer could be in a freaking suit for two years and get paid.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It'll be a two way deal or something.
You see it?
Do you see it or not?
Do I see Spencer?
Yeah.
I think he sticks.
How about Tristan?

(35:52):
Yep.
So do I.
Yeah.
He's a good size guard.
Cause I don't know if you guys watched it at all today.
But there's other guys that are that big.
Like Tristan Newton is a two time national champ.
He's all American this year.
And they talked about Barani James for like, 30 minutes.
They literally, Spencer and Newton got drafted when they were at commercials.

(36:14):
Of course, for break.
They came back and they're like, oh, this just in Indiana took Tristan Newton.
So Barani James is rumored to be getting drafted by the Lakers.
And by the way, his, his agent, you guys see this too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He told everybody not to draft.
Told teams not to draft them.

(36:34):
Nobody wanted them.
Yeah.
That's a bad story for sports right there.
Daddy ball ESPN.
I told you guys off the air.
I don't watch ESPN anymore, but they broke up Van Gundy, Mark Jackson and Mike Breen for
the slop that they're throwing out there for the NBA finals.
And now TNT's taking our guys off.

(36:54):
Yep.
Yeah.
I got to tell you this though, in defensive ESPN, you got to check out this guy's Stephanie
Smith.
He's amazing.
He's 18 million dollars a year.
What a freaking loser.
He freaking sucks.
Like their content now is that he argues with Chris Russo.

(37:15):
Yeah.
Mike did it for how many years on the fan?
I mean, you don't have to watch it on TV either.
These guys are terrible.
Anyway, getting back to studio engineer Kevin Russo.
The pick is in.
Actually, let's go from three to five.
Were you feeling it at all?

(37:36):
And were you nervous when seven came around being like, Jesus, we knew at about five that
he was going at that point.
You knew?
Yeah, he had been kind of.
You knew he wasn't going to slide past seven or you knew he was going seven?
If he wasn't taken by someone out of the blue, he was going to Portland.
No doubt.
Okay.

(37:56):
So Kevin, Portland's a long way away.
3000 miles, right?
Yep.
Would you or anyone else rather have him in Detroit?
With that blight in that crap city?
Or Charlotte, which is like an almost that's like the first one.
A sponsorship from Detroit.
No, they don't have money.

(38:19):
They don't have money.
I mean, I mean, Charlotte, we have, you know, personally, we have connections down in Charlotte.
Oh, you do.
Yeah.
My cousin Jeff Ross was a comptroller for the Bobcats and the Spurs.
That's right.
He does the rules.
Yeah, exactly.
And so he's still down that area.

(38:42):
And there's a new owner.
There's new ownership.
And he's doing that.
Maybe Charlotte is turning a page if he went there.
But there was not a lot of interest.
I think Yukon is kind of, you know, a lot of Yukon guys have gone to Charlotte and kind
of, you know, all the way back to Okafor.
Mecca, Kanban, and Lamb.
Did Lamb go there?

(39:02):
No.
Where'd he go first?
So yeah, that was, there was not a lot of talk there.
Even Castle, like I said, refused to work out for him, which was kind of a get out.
And is that bad for that organization?
Huh?
Yep.
And that's not inside.
That was printed that he refused to work out for him.

(39:22):
So yeah, it was, it's far out of Boston.
You can get there in six hours, three hour time change.
So it's really in three hours on the watch.
Now you can get there in six hours to Oregon.
Yeah.
And the flights are only about 400 bucks.
Nothing out of Bradley.
No, unless you want to land in like Indianapolis or something like that in a way.
But that's like a nine hour flight.

(39:42):
Kev, you know what a great thing though?
They play the, they'll be out in these two.
That's what I'm saying.
Washington, DC, New York, Brooklyn, Boston.
You're going to have plenty of time.
Everybody locally will have plenty of time to see him.
Let's go see a pacer game.
Tim Barrett was there, we were talking, he said, I just hope all those games are in the
same pacer game.
You want to go to Indiana to see a pacer game?

(40:04):
Yeah.
No?
Great steak places.
Is that market or anything?
Indianapolis is fun.
Used to be a market square, ran on hand.
Yeah, I mean, Smiths and the boys are out there.
Come on.
The Davis brothers?
They were awesome.
All right.
So great experience, right?
Yeah, it was amazing.

(40:27):
Is it there yet?
They fly out tomorrow morning.
That would be Friday after Friday morning and they go meet everyone.
I don't really know that.
Why weren't you allowed in the after party?
I was allowed in the first after party for anybody, but the late, late one was for the
agency who was 25 and under.
Did Harry go?

(40:48):
I'm going to play the fifth on that one.
He went!
What were the emotions like for the draft night compared to the night of the national
championship?
How can you compare those?
Was there the same amount of nerves?
I think Donovan's uncle Chris actually summed it up.
He was like, what are we afraid?

(41:10):
Like, oh my God, he's going to get drafted tonight.
I mean, yeah, it would have been nice if he went one, two.
Yeah, but he's getting drafted.
So this is all positive.
We should be just in a good mood.
Who said this?
This was Uncle Chris.
Uncle Chris.
By the way, former neighbor of ours, always known as Mr. Positivity.
Yeah, I'm not shocked to hear that.

(41:32):
I mean, that's awesome.
It's a great perspective.
I actually looked, I was kind of hoping he would be the first pick because I want to,
when was the last American white guy that was picked first?
Do you know the answer?
Yes.
I looked it up.
How far back we got to go?
60s.
70s.

(41:53):
Bill Wong.
First.
First pick.
He was the first pick, but is somebody good for that?
No.
Played for the Pistons for a while.
If I give it a college team.
Tripulca?
No.
Played for the Bucks, I believe, too, for a little while.

(42:16):
Played to Indiana.
Pete Mammoth.
Oh, not Kent Benson.
Kent Benson is the correct answer.
Is that Notre Dame?
Indiana.
Indiana.
The one and only.
Oh, Kent Benson.
Played for the general.
Same state, right?
He was the first pick.
Yeah.
Same state?
No.
70s.
70s.

(42:37):
He was in the coach and the white shadow, too.
Ken Rains.
No, Ken Rains.
I'm sorry.
Man, what a great day for everybody, man.
In the national championship game was nerves, because it's a game, and you don't know what's
going to happen.
Well, we knew what was going to happen.
It started feeling that way again, both those games.

(43:01):
It's funny, the other thing real quick, that Ed went two guys later, I think it was two
or the next.
Oh, you're right.
He went nine.
Nine.
And everyone posted how he beat up on Donovan.
And I get it.
And I get it.
And I get it.
Yeah, because he scored so many points.
He gets his points, and he did.
I will give him that.

(43:22):
He had some really hard shots early, but Donovan was able to take him one-on-one for a guy who's
leading score in the NCAAs for what, two years?
No one else scored.
And then they shot everyone else down.
And people were trying to say, I wrote, these people like to say that they had double team,
and they didn't even double team.
No.
Donovan got into foul trouble, and so did Samson followed out.

(43:44):
So they gave him a lot of freebies down the stretch, but they had one three-pointer,
I think, given up in there.
Maybe two.
Yeah.
And he starts bouncing that ball on the NBA.
That Schroeder's going to have already dunked it on the other side.
Even an excellent score.
The game plan was to do exactly what they did.
Let him get his points and shut everyone else down.
That's what they did.
And Donovan, Charterook was the funner center.
Yeah.

(44:04):
And, you know, he had fun.
Coach Morwitt and I were just saying, his job was just to basically not follow and play
tall, play long, and especially down the stretch because they needed him in there.
So, well.
It's all overblown.
Yeah.
Kev, do you have any perspective on the hurly stuff?
Was there a lot of smoke and fire there?

(44:28):
You know anything?
I asked a couple guys and everyone was like, ah, he wasn't going.
He wasn't going.
I think he was such a big deal that he had to take the meeting at least.
Did he have to do it so publicly?
I mean.
I think it also was a bargaining chip with Connecticut to show the value that other teams

(44:51):
see in him.
So, media guy from Connecticut who wouldn't let it go unnoticed anyway.
Yeah.
I mean.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, I think it was a really big deal.
I mean, you imagine.
I would think there would be a better chance of going to the lake.
No chance.
No way.
Never worked.
I don't think it worked, but I think Caravan coming back right when he did.

(45:11):
Yeah.
I heard an interview with him on, I was like, we're still old podcast or something.
And he just said he was like, he was going to try to run the same offense.
He has it.
You kind of with the Lakers.
If he was going to do it.
Can you imagine?
No.
Sure.
Can you imagine?
I think he was doing it.
They move.
Yeah.
You can tell those.

(45:32):
You can tell me Anthony Davis and Lamar are going to run around like that and be screeners.
No way.
That's what I'm saying.
Give me the ball.
He's his eye brought that.
Yeah.
I got you.
Yeah.
I'm with you.
You know who else though?
He could coach the Nick roster.
He could coach the Celtic roster.
He could coach the Warriors roster.

(45:54):
He could probably coach OKC, but then rosters change and professionals come in and nobody
wants to see him in the NBA.
I think you will eventually.
I think you will eventually.
Yeah.
I hope not.
He's great for college basketball as well.
Yeah, he really is.
I think if it's an East Coast job, you might know.
That's what I think.
He's going to take over for tips.
I think we're more apt to see Bobby in the NBA.

(46:16):
Possibly.
Point guard you.
I mean, Bobby Hurley.
He could storm around the sidelines.
Has he done anything?
He's point guard you.
They used to, they were calling that Arizona stay for a minute.
He's done nothing out there.
Well, I'm just saying he was in the NBA player.
No, I know.
He's got a name.
Yeah.

(46:37):
Brothers.
I agree with you because he's done nothing in college to stay there.
Yeah.
headache Smith.
Was he?
Remember that guy?
I do.
Anyway, great, great for Yukon Hoops, more importantly, great for the city of Bristol
and the greatest for the for the oak.

(46:57):
Yeah, what a good kid.
All those five o'clock in the mornings, all those, you should do this, you should do that.
All the, you know, camera in his face, bite his time, knowing it's not going to go past
seven.
And I texted studio engineer Kevin Ross right after and I'm like, I don't know if I asked

(47:18):
if it was somewhat disappointing.
I don't think that's how I phrased it, but you're like, listen, could be a hell of a
lot worse to get from Bristol when number seven in the NBA draft.
I mean, that sums it up.
The only time I got nervous was when Detroit was on.
I just don't want him to go there.
I don't want him to go there anywhere else.
The lovely Mrs. McMahon doing the same thing.
She's like, not Detroit, not Detroit right next to me.

(47:40):
I didn't know they were paying attention.
Who is it?
Do they have a coach yet?
No.
No.
They got to pay him what?
Sixty something million dollars or fifty something million dollars?
You know why I was nervous about that?
They got a ton of like wings over the last two or three years.
They got Ivy and K.
Conningham.
And then the kid that's got a twin.
Oh, from last year.
Twins.

(48:01):
Yeah, like they got, got, and you know what they need?
The UFC.
They need the tripler and the facilitator and a big guy.
And I think teams still need big guys.
Is that right?
You need a rim protector.
Hey, just guys, you guys see that Lopez is going to be on the block?
Yep.
They don't want to pay him.
How about him for the Knicks?

(48:24):
Makes too much money.
Yep.
Knicks are all set.
Oh my God.
He's awesome.
I thought you want to get rid of one guy.
I do.
I got trusted.
Hypothetical question.
If you could pick one player in NBA history to join the four Villanova guys and the bench
guys.

(48:44):
In NBA history?
History.
Who would be the piece of that puzzle?
I mean, you can't pick Jabbar.
Those guys, do they move the board around too much?
Take that Jordan.
No, I can't be Jordan.
They got a bunch of guards playing my center.
Playing my center.
Well nowadays you probably could.

(49:06):
Bridges Hart, Benchenzo Brunson.
Elijah one.
He would dominate and beat.
In today's game, would Elijah one shoot any threes?
I don't think he hit.
I don't think he hit the other small.
How about Timmy or Robinson?
No.

(49:26):
Wow.
You're talking about three pointers?
No, no, no.
I'm just saying on the next.
Guys, who's better?
Timmy or Dirk?
Go.
Oh, Duncan.
It's nice to know.
Duncan's one of the top 15 players of all time.
Where's Dirk?
16.
I got a better one.
Garnet or him?
You're in this Garnet guy.
You're in this Garnet guy.
Garnet or Timmy?

(49:47):
No.
Dirk.
It's a good one.
They both won one.
The whiskey's up, see it better off.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure if it's an upstamp, but it's all a player, I thought, other guys that
are all time defenders...great leader to it.
They're passers who neither want to go past.

(50:11):
I would take Garnet.
Just because of the whole package.
Just the intangibles.
Garnet's kind of psycho, which I like, and the whiskey is like a typical Euro guy.
I probably go with the psycho, but that's a lot closer than people would think.
Is it anybody else?

(50:31):
Is Novitsky a top five shooter of all time?
Shooter?
No.
No.
Because you would put bird, curry, Miller, Allen, and who?
Jim Les.
Tim Lugler.
Kidding.
Mark Price.
Dude, you know who's way up there?
Chris Jackson.
So what's his nuts from?

(50:54):
What's his nuts?
Corvers way up there.
Did you see him last night?
He's way up there.
Did you see him last night in the one in the front office?
One in the front office with Quinn Snyder.
What front office was that?
He's working for an organization behind the scenes.
Jazz?
Was it Utah?
Quinn Snyder coached Atlanta, though.
So it was Atlanta.

(51:14):
So he was in the room with Quinn Snyder.
Corvver.
Quinn Snyder.
What number was he at Duke?
Quick.
14.
Yep.
Good job, guys.
All right.
Look at Kevin Ross shaking his head.
Where's he from?
No idea how you guys are.
Where's he from?
Missouri.
What state?
Missouri to show me state.
Jersey.

(51:35):
Washington.
How do you know that?
Washington state.
I'm a loser.
Washington state.
There you are.
All right.
He did.
He was the coach of Mizzou for a minute, right?
Yes.
All right.
Guys, this next segment brought to you
by my friend Joe Moriello,
vice president, Capital Securities.

(51:57):
And like he was in a war room with Kyle Corvver
and Quinn Snyder, he wants to have his ducks in a row
because he believes in a life.
Well planned.
All right.
Who'd you rather?
Who'd you rather be friends with?
I saw this on Twitter.
Prime.
Or Aaron Rodgers.
Just who would you rather be friends with?

(52:18):
They stop over to podcasts, hang out.
Can I take the bullet?
Well, no, because it's not who you're rather.
You know, that'd be like,
who'd you rather or would you rather die?
For me, I take Aaron Rodgers.
We just hang out in the dark.
So I have to.
Do I have a Oscar or whatever that thing is?
I would take prime.

(52:41):
Are you saying the blooms off the rose with prime, huh?
Didn't he lose like half his team?
I'm not worried about it.
Nobody wants to play because he made it.
Not worried about it.
His remaining players, he made him go listen to the Sun's
rap concert or something.
Doesn't matter.
He's planned this out.
It's a life.
Well planned.
Who'd you take, man?

(53:02):
Name me a guy.
I'll take prime.
I'll take prime.
I'll take prime.
Primer, get in there.
Primal enough.
I do it.
Prime with prime as well.
I mean, how could you not hang out with prime?
I want to know why.
He's a genius.
I think prime has better footage.
He's a genius.
I like to hear his stories more.
Dude, if NIL, I agree.
It's a comedic value.

(53:22):
All right, that's a good point.
I want to know why he did that to Macarver for real.
And then Macarver goes away.
And if now it's legal existed back then, I mean NIL,
this guy would have made a ton of money
because he was making it back down
with his necklaces.
All right, guys, who would you rather,

(53:44):
moving forward with your football team right now,
from now going forward?
Jalen Hertz, Josh Allen, go.
Josh Allen.
Oh, the Eagle fan.
I mean, Josh Allen, definitely.
Crack.
Josh.

(54:05):
Commiss.
Josh Allen.
Who'd you say?
Josh Allen.
Josh Allen.
Josh Allen.
Well, does Buffalo make the playoffs this year?
It's one of our very few landslide unanimous victories.
And the Eagles, they don't have a cornerback.
They take Allen over him.

(54:26):
All right.
Golf or cousins?
Go.
We're hanging out with them or feeding them.
No, no, we're going forward.
We're hanging out with my cousins.
I've hung out with your cousins.
You might want to take off.
I'll take off.
I'm going golf, too.

(54:49):
Oh, God.
I'll go golf.
Producer is starting there.
I'm going to go cousin.
Angry?
They drafted Pentax, right?
I know.
Angry.
I said cousins already.
That was the first guy jumping.
Easily golf.
All right.
Running backs, slightly different era.
A few years separate them.

(55:10):
All day AP or McCaffrey?
I'll take Peterson.
Loved him.
McCaffrey's a pretty boy.
I would take Peterson.
Durability.
Peterson.
I'm going McCaffrey.
The switch man.
That's why I wouldn't take him.
I'm going McCaffrey.

(55:31):
I got a better human being.
And probably a better pass catcher.
We're talking about the NFL, right?
Yeah.
Why, there's no good human beings in the NFL?
Maybe there are.
I mean, I know you're a Brown fan,
and they actually prey on terrible human beings,
but whatever.
I'm not proud of the Raster, all right?
I like the organization.

(55:53):
CP3 or Rondo?
Serious question.
Rondo.
For one game, Rondo.
Rondo.
Rondo.
CP3, I said.
Okay, so CP3 will be a Hall of Famer, right?
Without question.
Rondo will not, right?
No.
No, he will.
He'll make it.

(56:14):
He will?
He's a winner.
He is.
He's not going to make it right away,
but eventually, down the line, he'll make it.
He's 15th all time in assists.
Yeah.
Yeah, eventually he's going to make it.
He won't be someone you think about right away.
All those CP3 doubles.
Phenomal rebounder.
I mean, I can't believe this many people took Rondo,
but I'm taking Rondo.
I hate the other guy.

(56:35):
I think there's a movie out now about, like,
the Clippers with the owner.
And I saw a couple things on Twitter.
Oh, yeah.
I saw a couple things on Twitter.
The guy from Marry with Chills was like the owner.
Bundy?
Yeah, Bundy.
No way.
Well, he spoke like himself.
I think, like, Lawrence Fishburne is a doc.
What a cast.
No, it's not.
I'm not going to say that.
I'm not going to say that.
What a cast.

(56:57):
No, it's like that Yankee.
Show story story.
Show story story.
Why does this thing come out?
He was never some way.
I see it in the commercial.
There's some segments on Twitter.
And, like, there's this one thing where CP3 stops
at the Warriors entrance and is like,
oh, somebody died here?
Seems like a funeral.
And he walks away laughing.
And this guy playing Drayminal looks nothing like him,

(57:20):
comes out and challenges him.
And then both teams did it.
Do you remember when Shaq, they were saying that,
the cops were called because of an altercation
outside one of those locker rooms?
And he was laughing.
Him and Charles can talk.
Oh, yeah.
I do remember that.
I think that was that.
I think you're right.
And anyway, moving on to more important stuff.
Stephen A. Smith or Chris Maddog Russo.

(57:43):
You have to listen to one of them for an hour a day.
Russo.
Russo.
100%.
Yeah, Russo, he talks baseball.
He's actually.
He's knowledgeable.
He's just the MLB where he has a show on.
It's actually not bad.
If only he listened.
Yeah, not bad.
Because he doesn't look at anything.
His head's all over the place.
Russo.
Overblown.

(58:04):
When his wife is going away, he's got a couple gummies
this weekend.
He says they're good.
A couple gummies two hours later.
I'm good to go.
Got the US open on.
A couple gummies.
I missed that show.
I'm liking it mad though.
Thank God.
Has radio been the same since?
No.
Not at the fan.
They've tried at the fan too with like the Bart Scots and stuff like that.

(58:28):
They've tried too hard.
Angry J.
What do you got?
We're going all baseball.
Who would you rather?
Let's go.
Standing in the Torah.
Let's go.
Yeah.
All right, we're going to go with the bells.
Albert Bell, George Bell.
Albert Bell.
Taco Bell?
Joey.
Albert.
Just so you guys know, maybe you're going to pick Albert Bell.
George Bell actually won an MVP.

(58:49):
He did.
He went to, or that's only one.
He came in second the next year.
87, I think he won.
He also ran out there at the end of his career for the White Sox and almost killed a pitcher.
Did he bring the bat with him?
No, no bat.
Number 21 at that point.
George Taco Bell.
Yeah, he had some cuckoo in him too.
Or Albert Bell?
Yeah.
Joey.
Joey Bell.
All right.

(59:10):
Listeners, that's Albert.
Why?
He's not in the Hall of Fame.
Albert Bell is not in the Hall of Fame.
Is it just because of his personality?
His numbers are unreal.
Unreal.
He needs a couple more.
He has like, he had 10 years that Albert Bell won an MVP.
Great.
And that's it.
Like he kind of needs a couple more.
He got hoes out of that.

(59:31):
That 95 MVP too.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Who won it instead of a New York ever?
Oh God.
In 144 games, they won.
Look at the crack.
He hit 52 home runs and 50 doubles in 144 game season.
And they won a hundred games.
They won 144.
Move on on MVP.
Probably because at that time the Indians were loaded, right?

(59:54):
So the media.
Maybe they just didn't like them.
Yeah, they hated them.
Well, the Indians weren't liked.
I think we're talking to Alomar, Ramirez, Tomei.
No, not Tomei.
That's Murray, right?
No, they had.
Bayerga, Lofton, those guys.
They were loaded.
Eddie Murray was not liked.
They weren't liked though, that team.
Travis Fryden.
Let's move on.
Ricky Vaughan.
Go.
Everybody go.

(01:00:15):
Who'd you take?
McGryff.
Joe Carter.
Easy.
McGryff.
McGryff.
I like McGryff, yeah.
McGryff.
I'm going Carter.
Crime dog.
Why?
Just a clutch player.
Correct.
Winner.
493 homers or 91?
We'll hit 91.
491.
491.
Yeah, 491.
Hall of Famer now.

(01:00:36):
You got your wish.
Kenny Lofton.
Should have been.
Kenny Lofton.
Tim Reigns.
Reigns, easy.
Rock.
Easy.
I'm saying.
In basketball, Lofton, baseball, Reigns.
When he was with Montreal.
Is Kenny Lofton Hall of Famer?
You're not going to make it.
I don't think so.
He's pretty close.
That's Randy Johnson.

(01:00:59):
Kenny Lofton.
Johnny Damon.
Hold on.
Can we?
Oh, this is Lofton again.
Go.
Go ahead.
I'll take Lofton there.
You got numbers there?
No.
Lofton.
I'm going Damon.
Just because he was a very Yankee.

(01:01:22):
Can I say something about Lofton?
Go ahead.
You're going to do it anyway.
I don't.
Well, I know.
That was a very.
Get your own show.
So.
Ho, ho, ho.
So.
You've got Frances over here.
He's just.
Go ahead.
So I was watching something last couple of weeks and the big unit, Mariners Indians, he

(01:01:49):
throws one high and tight, but it's a slider and Lofton goes crazy and Dan Wilson is trying
to get in the way and the unit got pissed.
He was like, it's a slider.
It's a slider.
If I want to hit you, it'd be a fastball.
So they separate.
They go back this way.
Baseball used to be.
He throws a freaking 93 mile fastball's head on the next pitch.

(01:02:11):
Now Lofton is trying to come out there and Wilson's got him in the ground like two steps.
And by the way, Lofton's probably a little quicker than Wilson.
So maybe he didn't want to get out there to the unit.
Lofton hell of a player, jerk of a Yankee.
I think he bunted with like two outs and guys on in a world series at one point.
And I thought that was in the ninth inning.
I thought that was a kind of a wisp bag move.

(01:02:34):
Hell of a player.
Hall of Famer.
Jay, you got that?
I would say no, but he's very close if you look at it.
Kamesh, you voted for the Hall of Fam.
What do you think?
I don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
Why?
Numbers aren't there.
Oh, thanks.
You got to lock in a little bit.

(01:02:54):
That's classic.
Jay, 280.
What are we talking about?
He is 299 career hitter.
Jesus.
Got to be 300.
2400 hits, 2428.
Got to have 25 on there.

(01:03:15):
Only 130 home runs.
Yeah, 250.
1500 runs though.
How many years did he play?
Played 17 years.
Stole seven.
Compiler.
Oh, 781 RBI.
622 steals.
He led the league five different times.
All right.
So besides Cleveland in the one year with the Yankees, who else did he play with?

(01:03:38):
That's a great question.
I don't remember.
He played with the Braves.
He did play with the Boston Rod.
I think he played with a ton of teams late.
Yeah.
All right.
So he came up actually with Houston, believe it or not.
And then he played with the Indians for 10 years.
And yeah, White Sox, Giants, Pirates, Cubs, Yankees, Phillies, Dodgers, Rangers, back

(01:04:01):
to the Indians.
That's crazy.
No Braves.
Okay.
I can't see him in some of those uniforms.
All right, let's go.
We'll go a lot.
Actually, we'll let Crocker go here.
And we know he's going Dwight Evans, Andre Dawson.
Glad you even asked me.
Dwight Evans, Andre Dawson.
The Hawk.
He was a lot faster base runner.

(01:04:22):
Hawk.
Hawk has the numbers.
Hawks of Hall of Famer.
That ends that question.
He won an MVP on the last place team.
He did, 87.
Let's go Kurt Schilling.
Mike Musina.
Musina.
Get out of here with that other guy.
Mus.
The sock.
Bloody sock, huh?
That's so stupid.
He's a jackass.

(01:04:42):
I'll say Musina.
He's a great pitcher, though.
Great pitcher.
Yeah.
Musina.
All right.
Let's go.
Robinson Cannell.
I'll tell you.
Cannell's numbers for a second baseman were nuts, but I'm going to take Padreia, winning
player.
Because he used to be a fake hustle.

(01:05:05):
Winning player.
Head first, I won.
There's no throw to third.
I'm on the baseman.
You know I can't stand the Red Sox, but Yankees need about seven of him.
Cannell.
For me.
What a hitter.
Yeah, incredible.
He did.
You got to have Cannell there.
Slaver did follow his piece.
If Cannell stayed with the Yankees, if he stayed with the Yankees and then get pinched

(01:05:29):
for the steroids, Hallfanner.
He wanted to get paid too much to be there, though.
I did see him take BP one time and like, dude, what a sound.
It was different.
So much different than everybody else.
Alan Srammel.
Robin Yelp.
Yelp.
Yelp.
Man, me too.

(01:05:50):
I like them.
All right.
Lou Whitaker.
Ryan Sandberg.
Sandberg.
Sweet Lou.
Sandberg.
I would go Sandberg too.
All right.
This one.
Hallfanner.
Sandberg is in.
Whitaker is not.
Tony Gwyn.
Ichiro Suzuki.
Each.
That's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
That's a good one.
Very good.

(01:06:11):
Each that went off the ground, dude.
Each.
Tony Gwyn's a better hitter.
Each is a way better outfielder.
I'm going to say Ichiro.
It hurts me to say it, but I think so.
But Tony Gwyn sounds like the guy in what you call the movie.

(01:06:37):
Who's Tom Hanks?
Sam Pryor, right?
Forrest Gump.
Yeah.
Shremkamba.
That sounds like Tony Gwyn, right?
You guys ever see that?
He's talking about Baba Gwyn.
Yeah, I would.
That's him.
Baba.
I would probably take Tony Gwyn just because I love them.
But Ichiro was awesome too.
Have you ever seen the Tim Flannery interview about Tony Gwyn?

(01:06:58):
Yeah.
Was that during a Randalay or something?
Yeah.
So they were.
It's great story.
Flannery tells the story.
He's getting ready to hit and they're going to bring in a lefty to face Gwyn and he says
to the Flannery, I guess, who's on deck.
He's like, listen, they're going to bring this guy.
First pitch, he's going to throw me a slider.
I'm going to hit it into the left center field gap.

(01:07:19):
You're on deck.
You'd be ready.
He's got to play.
It's absolutely pouring and they show the video.
Literally.
They're walking back.
He goes, remember what I said to him?
Welcome back to the clubhouse.
He's like, next game, next day they pick it up the game.
He's like, he's like, swear to God.
First pitch, they show it.
That wasn't a slider.
He's a double in the left center.
Shut up.

(01:07:40):
He literally, he's standing on second base and he's pointing that Flannery and a dugout.
He's like, it's unbelievable.
All right.
I got a spontaneous hoot you rather.
The Tony Gwyn poster would like the.
I had that.
The pencil diagrams about the mechanics of his swing before baseball became this mechanical
scientific bunch of crap.
That order George Gervin poster with two hands on a ball.

(01:08:03):
Oh, that's a good one.
You know something I had to.
You could have one right now in this studio, which one is it?
I take that.
Gervin poster is a mean to.
Iceman.
Iceman.
Do I think.
All right.
The Iceman or the Hitman?
Oh, come on, Bobby.
I got the Hitman down.
I got the Hitman down.
Oh, yeah, I gave it to you.
Didn't I?
Mm-hmm.

(01:08:23):
All right, we're going to, let's go.
I got a bunch more.
Go.
Kirk Gibson, Darrell Strawberry.
Strawberry.
The whole package.
The whole package.
Strawberry.
I won Kirk.
I won Kirk myself.
I love straw.
I hated strawberry with the Mets when he came to the Yankees and he was, he was kind of
platoon player.

(01:08:44):
I love them because anybody that got hit, he tried to fight.
I'm going to go straw.
Does that just cause you to be the Yankee?
No.
All right.
That's not an easy call because I love Gibson's intensity, but I'll go straw.
Gibson early on was a beast too.
Yeah.
I mean, I could never go against straw.
You don't want.
Yeah, it's autograph.
It was Jersey.

(01:09:05):
I didn't want to autograph.
That's awesome.
That's a great story.
He had a new port, a filtered new port.
The only thing you could have at that point.
So we, we got to listen, we go to a Yankee game and it gets me and straw and I'm with
Mac and we're there early, whatever they're playing the brewers and it gets rained out.
Warring.
It gets rained out.

(01:09:26):
So we're like, ah, they're making everybody leave.
We immediately go right to the gate where the players come out.
And then Mac is there.
He gets his, he walks, he's smoking a cigarette, I believe.
Okay.
Unfiltered.
He went over and asked him for his autograph.
He came right over in, you know, he was scratching, scratching out his autograph.

(01:09:47):
Like a minute goes by and I lost, like there's people everywhere.
And I lost Mac.
I'm like, where the hell is this guy?
Like I'm looking like Jesus.
I'm like, I don't even know where we parked.
Also, I hear this, this, like you can hear this noise.
I'm like, well, I, the team busters there for the boards, shade tinted windows.
I turn around, I walk around the box.

(01:10:09):
This guy's standing here.
I remember that gate to Mark Newfield.
Want to kill me.
Oh, it was hilarious.
Absolutely.
I got the straw man's.
You guys scrubbing.
He gave finger to the brewers.
Half the brewers wanted to fight him.
It was terrific.
I know them guys.
Yeah.
I got a lot of them.

(01:10:30):
Let's go.
Let's go.
Bonito, Bonito San Diego or a passata passata.
I mean, the hitting, the hitting's got up Trump.
How great Benito was behind the dish.
He was great.
I mean, he was great.
He was Molina before Molina was Molina, right?

(01:10:52):
Right.
What's the numbers though?
Yeah.
Compared to Santiago, nothing close.
Now with today's rules, what's more important?
The hitting.
Yeah.
Now with the two throwovers and having to throw down all the time?
Sonny, I was not going to go hard.
Guys aren't stealing a lot of bases anyway.
You take that hitting.

(01:11:13):
Passato.
Look at every catcher in the big leagues.
You take passato over most of them.
This one will be pretty easy.
And we didn't like them.
Go ahead.
Pudge Rodriguez, Buster Pozzi.
Pudge.
Right.
Pudge.
What were you going to say?
I was going to say Puzzi did win an MVP, but so did Pudge, I believe, right?

(01:11:35):
And Puzzi won three titles.
But Pudge was so, he was also awesome too, by the way.
Who was that?
Pudge.
Pudge.
I didn't know the other guy wasn't.
They all were.
I'm taking Pudge because they changed their style.
Pudge because they changed the blocking home plate rule because of Pozzi getting hurt.

(01:11:56):
Yeah.
It's soft in the sport.
All right.
Pudge was the Yankee.
For half a season, right?
Opening day, I was there.
Steve Sax, Willie Randolph.
Willie.
Willow.
You got Captain Willie.
The captain.
I mean the captain?
The captain was a player.
You couldn't throw the first base.

(01:12:19):
The number three Sax was better than number six.
I got a few more.
Let's go.
Willie McCovey, Joey Vado.
I mean it's hard to talk about McCovey.
We didn't watch him, but like, Jesus.
I'm saying McCovey.
McCovey.
You gotta look up Vado's number.

(01:12:40):
Yeah, they're crazy.
Vado's also.
Trey Turner.
Trey Turner.
Jimmy Rollins.
Check the time frame.
Trey Turner, Jimmy Rollins.
Rollins.
Rollins.
Rollins.
Take Turner.
Easy.
Rollins won an MVP.
I'll take Trey Turner.

(01:13:01):
I like Rollins a lot.
Mookie Betts, Mike Trout.
Mookie.
And it's down.
Mookie stays on the field.
Who's out for two months?
What's going on?
He used to stay on the field.
He used to stay on the field.
He's gonna run for the rest of the game.
It's not his fault.
It got broken wrist.

(01:13:23):
Trout plays 70 games a year.
Yeah, it is a problem.
That's why I'm asking.
I'm not denying his stardom, but you can't rely on him.
Call McCartney over.
So you got Betts.
You got Easy Betts.
I was at Betts.
Like Trout could never play for the Knicks.
He's not reliable.
If it's today, Mookie's in the Hall of Fame.

(01:13:45):
He would.
Trout is out right now today.
What's it again?
Mookie's in today.
Trout's out.
Trout's at Hall of Fame right now.
Go. Three to go.
What do you got there?
Mookie.
MVP.
Yeah.
Boy year.
Well, first player in history to win the most valuable player, Silver Slugger.
Gold glove betting title.
I'm just impressed.
I'm impressed.
All in the same season.

(01:14:06):
Mookie.
All the same season.
Since he passed away.
All in the same season.
I'm impressed.
I give a...
And like the steroid stuff, not a factor, right?
Well, man, you just picked Rodriguez.
So I don't think that's the same thing.
The nostalgia part of me says Willie Mays.
But Bons is the best player I've ever seen.

(01:14:29):
Yeah, probably.
In my age.
We didn't see Willie Mays.
That's what I'm saying.
In my age.
Just highlights.
I'm going to Bons.
I'll say Willie, man.
When he went out to the street and said, Hey, to the kids.
That's the reason he played stickball.
That's amazing.
You wanted that.
And like slacks on a college here.
If you remember that.
Like last two, uh, Manny Machado.
Or Hosey Ramirez.

(01:14:51):
Ramirez.
Yeah.
Or who?
I'm sorry.
Hosey Ramirez.
Hosey.
Machado is falling off the...
He's been terrible.
He's not even talked about.
He's not even talked about.
All right.
Then this won't be easy for Lottie.
Manny Machado.
Craig Nettles.
Captain Puff.
Are you kidding me?
If you look at the numbers, I mean...
Captain, it's a different era.

(01:15:13):
It is.
Captain Puff, 77, 78.
So you're going to be Captain Puff?
All right.
Am I going Captain Puff?
The magic dragon.
He saved, he saved Gidry in the World Series.
Yeah, I saw.
I was making, I was diving all over my yard on freaking out.
Freaking kidding me.
The same thing.
I love Captain Puff because he got a fight with Reggie Jackson.
Don't mess with Captain Puff.

(01:15:34):
Don't mess with Captain Puff at the bar.
Why, Lottie, why do they call him Captain Puff?
Because he would instigate and start troubling the locker room
where at the bar and then when things started to go south,
he'd bow out.
Like he was gone.
So it's like Puff.
He was gone.
He was gone.
Okay.
Can I, uh, introduce you to it for a minute?

(01:15:56):
We lost our friend Keith Arktis.
We grew up with a great guy.
I wanted Jada to share two stories about what Keith was like.
Um, first the Cecil Fielder 50th home run.
He tells about that one.
You want me to share this?
Yeah.
She has a story.
Unbelievable story.
All right.
So we went through, um, we both went to school to Western Connecticut.
And, uh, the last three days of the season, the Tigers were playing at Yankee Stadium.

(01:16:20):
It was 1990, I believe.
Was it 1990?
Yeah.
I think it was.
And, uh, back.
So back then, this is before everybody hit 50 home runs.
Everybody started taking steroids and George Foster was the last one.
George Foster, 1978 was the last guy to do it.
The last he had 52 yet.
The last American we got to do it was Mantle and Marist and 61.

(01:16:43):
So it was a big deal.
As you guys know, being Yankee fans, the Yankee stadium in 1990 with how bad they, they literally
won 60 games, I think.
Oh, for grabs.
Yeah.
So you could sit anywhere you wanted.
We used to go all the time and get up our deck and sit wherever we wanted.
So we did that.
We literally went three nights in a row and the last night, even he did nothing the first

(01:17:09):
two games, the last night of the year, game 162.
Steve Atkins is the pitcher.
And, uh, you remember that name?
Yeah.
And then they told everybody he was going to be this great.
I couldn't get anybody out.
So we go to left.
We sit in the left field.
There's 10,000 people there.
8,000 people are sitting in the left field.
And we had made a plan.

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Like you guys know how the, they had moved the fences in like years before, but there's
like a walkway towards Monument Park back then and the old, old Yankee stadium.
And so the Tigers backfielder, the bad at second that night in a second time up, it's
like the third or fourth inning.
He comes up atkins on the mound.
He hits an absolute bomb.

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And we had planted all we said, like, Hey, if the ball ever goes down there, we're going
to jump down.
So he hits a bomb.
It goes into the upper deck.
Like we just turn on looking.
There's nobody in the upper deck hits the plastic chairs.
It comes bouncing down to maybe a guy 50 feet to our left and he, he snarls it like it bounces
right off his hands and it drops down to that, that walkway was.

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And like you could actually YouTube it a little bit.
Like back then they, the only camera angle they have is behind home plate.
And it was we, we immediately had planned it out.
Like, Hey, if it goes down there, we're jumping down there.
And this ball eight feet from where we were sitting to the ground.
Like I, I, when I look, Harky was already like all over the railing.
I'm like, I was right behind them.

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A third guy jumped down Harky's running towards the ball.
That's on literally on the walkway towards Monument Park.
The Tiger bullpen guys are running towards the ball and there's me and some other dude.
And I like Harky's got the lead.
So I just tackled the other guy.
Like, I'm like, Oh, no, I pretended like I tripped.
The guy's like swinging at me.

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Harky picks the ball.
Like we were like so pumped.
He just runs to me.
He's like, I got it.
I got it.
And in a couple of the Tigers, I remember one guy, I think the guy was named as Paul Gibson
or something.
He was a lefty.
Lefty pitcher 45.
Yeah.
He comes, runs up to me.
He runs up to me.
He's like, he's like, give us the ball.
I was like, fuck you.

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So we just ran back.
Like we couldn't get back into the seats though.
Like the fans literally like it was awesome.
The fans are like grabbing us and they pull us up into the seats and we were like, Holy
He's like, what do I do with the ball?
I'm like, dude, stick it in your front pocket.
And like people are like grabbing at him.
I'm like, just Yankee Yankee securities there within five minutes.

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They're like, who has the ball?
This and that.
They, they ask him, is like, will you give the ball?
This and that.
They're like, they gave them, they gave us like a place to meet that he gave him like
a little card or something that said like meet right here after the game.
You're going to go down and there's going to be like a press conference, this and that.
This is the fourth inning, right?
So we're sitting there like we're like cloud nine, you know, like literally they look up.

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People are like walking up to him.
Hey, will you sign my ticket?
Will you sign my ticket?
Like he said, it was unreal.
Like I'm like, I'm looking to my right and there is a line of about a hundred people
lining up for, for Harky to sign her.
Nobody believed me.
Like nobody like, it's like, he was like signing all these things.
Like it was, it was, it was unbelievable.

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So he actually hit another home run like this next time up.
But so after the game ends, we go to this place and they pull us in the back studio.
It was even before Sterling was the announcer.
Jay Johnstone came by and stuff like he said, hi to us and stuff.
And we're waiting.
They're like, you're going to go down to take elevator, go downstairs in a couple minutes.

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So we're sitting like on these couches.
I'd never, I've never seen it before anything like that.
You can't see him.
Bob Garen came out, remember that loser?
Yeah.
That's a three.
Yeah.
It was disgusting.
It was absolutely disgusting.
So I didn't hate him though.
Go ahead.
They finally grabbed me like, who got the ball and it's like, man, he walks over there.

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I'm like, I start going with him.
They're like, you can't call him.
I'm like, what?
I'm like, he's like my right home too.
There's some loser like degenerate Yankee fan like with a plastic ball he bought.
Right.
And he's like asking us to get Fielder to sign it and Harky took it.
Right.
So we, he goes downstairs.
I'm sitting there like five minutes goes by.

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I was like one security guy not paying attention.
Like I just, I know they went down.
I saw him go down the elevator stopped him as well.
You could see like reporters and stuff going down.
I'm like, this is never going to happen again.
So boom, I hit the, I hit the thing to get security's turned around.
I jumped on the thing.
I didn't know I was going.
There's a couple of right reporters in there.
Jason Bourne over there.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
So like, I didn't know where to go.
So we went down.
I was just like, I'll just follow everybody else.
So we walked down and it's like in the bowels of Yankee staying like literally.
Right.
You walk by, there were some cool stuff like people had signed like you ever see where
they sound like you walk by that.
So we're in the back and I look up and you, you saw the pictures that were, they had them
like the Hartford current was actually in the USA today.

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USA today.
That's what we believe.
Yeah.
So like I walk in, I'm in the back of the room.
I called you out here.
How was that learning?
He's up there.
He's literally up there with Cecil Fielder at a podium.
Like I walk in the back and he saw me.
He's like waving like a third grade.
Awesome.
So I'm like, there's a lady next to me and I started talking to her.

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It's Fielder's wife.
She's like, they're talking about hoping he could win the MVP.
I think, I think Henderson won at that year, but there's a little fat kid to my right.
Prince.
Who's about 12 years old.
It's Prince Fielder.
Like he was bigger than me and I was in college.
And so Harky's up there.
They're asking them questions and like it's, it's like it's still unreal.

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It's surreal.
So he was up there.
Fielder was great and like they asked him a bunch of questions and you know.
Tell Lottie who you met.
Again, on the way out, like he had signed it, you know, a bat and a ball for Harky.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Manningley came out.
Yeah.
Look at Lottie.
Yeah.
Like Manningley just happened to be walking out like, I literally, I think I said to him

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like, you're great.
He said, thanks.
That was, that was, that was better than you're not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like, but Fielder, they were, they were great and stuff.
Donnie.
So we're literally like walking out, like we're walking out of the stadium and there's like
nobody, now there's nobody like around except for this.
The guy wanting the ball back.
We walked out.

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I had signed the ball.
Get out.
Jason M. Harlow I wrote on this.
It's a plastic, you know, it's those plastic baseballs.
We walk out and we're like, like we just got smiles on our faces.
Like, you know how much I smile.
And we walk and this guy's there.
His name was Roy.
I'll never forget his name was Roy.
I had signed it.
Harky gives him the ball.

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And the guys, like he's like, I couldn't get Fielder signed.
Harky gave the guy Roy the ball.
It says Jason Harlow and he says, keep this ball.
This guy's a Yankee prospect.
He's gonna be worth something.
That even makes the story better.
So that, like we drive back to Western.
It's only like a hour.
You had a great spring too.
Yeah.
I think they got a 2.8, they let me go.

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So the next morning, like we went back, like half the people didn't believe us in our dorm.
And out there like, you're fall.
Shit.
There's like, I remember like Eddie quick, the guy who coached us.
I saw him like, Eddie, like we got a, he's like, you're fall.
Shit.
And so the next morning is like seven 30 the morning, the R-Rays wrap on our door.
Detroit radio station must have talked to Keith Harkness.

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He went, he goes down to the RA office.
He was on, he talked to like three different radio stations in Detroit.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
You know, that's the story, but like even a year later, like they had like a car signing in Waterbury.
And Harkness actually brought like a picture he had with him.

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And the fielder was great.
Like he saw him immediately and went over and gave him like a half a hug, a bro hug and all that stuff.
It was pretty cool.
That's really cool.
That's a great story and he was a great friend of ours and that was a tough loss for us.
You got to tell one more.
Keep it short.
I don't care about the time because we owe it to this guy.
Tell the story about your minor league trip with Harky, back to back fields.
I think it was the Haven.
The Mike Vintz.

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Yeah.
If you can keep it like a PG.
No, no.
Yeah.
So Mack will know this because he's as good as anybody is.
We select that in our twenties.
We used to, the heck old guys, right?
I had mentioned the middle finger to Milwaukee for a team buzz.
You must.
You talked about before in the podcast about Bobby.
So we go to a minor league game in New Britain and this guy, Mike Mims is pitching.

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And he actually played in the major leagues for a while for the Phillies.
So we go down.
I forgot the New Haven.
It might have been like.
You remember Ravens maybe?
Yeah.
Whether they're Rockies or minor league.
I don't remember.
So this guy Mims is pitching.
I think he was like a Montreal Expo affiliate or something.
So we go and we're we're heckling a few guys, but Mims is this guy Mims pitches seven innings.

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He only gives up a couple hits, but he walked like five or six guys or something.
So they're taking them out and like minor league parks.
There's like no clubhouse.
They had like a little trailer down the left field line.
So like Harky's like, let's go get something to drink.
And the way we walked down like behind home plate wherever the in we're going to get something

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to drink.
Literally like a soda and all of a sudden Mims like walks in front of me and Harky and there's
a he's walking with the trainer and I mean, I was a ball buster, I guess.
So I just said, Hey, Mims good game.
And he was like this gruff guy.
And then he just like looked at me and like, you get some fucking control.

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He'd be really good.
And he goes, what'd you say?
I'm like, you get some fucking control.
You'd be pretty good.
He literally comes at me like wanted to fight me.
I mean, Harky was great.
Like he grabbed me and pulled me like, dude, it's like pulling me away.
I'm like, first of all, I wasn't going to win the fight, but like I would have had to take
a couple swings.
The trainers grab and Mike Mims get them away.
So like we're, you know, whatever.

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That's that's it.
They pull them to the pull them away.
We go and get something to drink.
Like we're laughing about it for the rest of the night.
Next next day, get done working.
The phone rings and it's Harky.
He's like, what are you doing?
No, he's like landline to right land landline.
We had the old kitchen phone where the phone was actually built into the wall for you for

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youngsters.
So Harky was like, listen, they're playing in the Britain.
I'm like, who he's like, he's like, I think it was like Harris or something.
Like you want to go home like he goes, I'm like, what time does it start?
He goes, we got to get there early.
Whose car are we taking?
Yeah.
It was always his.
Fortunately for praying it would start.

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So we get, we drive to the Britain, the old beehive, whatever.
We walk in there.
We're literally, there's 10 people in the park.
And we're two of them.
And he's like, Harky just taps him.
He's like, he's right there.
He's, we walk in and they're shagging balls.
He isn't.
He's literally Mike Mims is leaning against the dugout with his back to us.

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Can I say something?
What do you think I said?
Mims, you got to get some fucking control.
He turned around.
He turned around.
He was like, he was immediately read.
Like he, like Mike, he wanted to kill me.
The trainer was there comes running around and he's like pointing at the guys.

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They're like, this is the guy.
This is the guy.
The Mike Mims is not a fan of Jason Arlton.
But this guy Roy might be.
Me and like Harky, like, like, love the guy.
Love the guy.
Like we, there's some stories like you guys, Mac knows and Johnny, you guys know and legendary front.

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Yeah.
So.
Sorry for your loss.
So this year we had, you know, the general go down, right?
Or maybe that was before the new year.
I don't know when that was.
Bill Walton, Bill Russell, the great Willie Mays.
But there's, there's no one number eight.
Yeah.
There's nobody more great than our friend number eight Keith Harkness.

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Rest in peace boys.
Great job tonight.
Ploughboy down.
Any, any time one of them goes down the rest of the boys rally and that happened charter oak.
Make us proud.
You don't have to be good.
Just do your best buddy.
What, what is he?

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He's going to be number 23.
Nice.
He can't be 32.
It's retired.
Walton.
Yeah.
We can't get that changed.
No, no, bad time.
Harky.
Hook us up.
He can make it happen.
Good night everybody.