Conference Championship Picks, TikTok Ban Politics, and Kamala’s Next Move

Beleh, Ben, and Dylan break down the divisional round surprises, make their calls for the conference championships, and talk about what’s next for Kamala Harris.

They start by recapping last week’s predictions and current Brogressive prediction league standings (00:07) before digging into the Ravens’ missed chances, the Lions’ collapse, and the Bills' narrow victory over the Ravens. Looking ahead, they preview the conference championships, debating whether Josh Allen and the Bills can finally get past the Chiefs (18:33). They also lock in new Super Bowl picks after last week’s chaos (23:07).

On the political side, the crew talks about the TikTok “ban” and how it turned into a political win for Trump (28:41). They close with a discussion on Kamala Harris — whether she’ll run for governor in 2026, how that could reframe her political future, and what it means for 2028 (29:12).

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Episode Transcript

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Welcome everyone to the Progressive Podcast.
This is officially I think the 11th episode.
Kind of crazy to say out loud, but do want to thank everyone
that has been watching and and continuing to, you know, go on
this journey with us. We're really excited to talk
about the NFL once again, right?That's what we all love out
here. But we're joined by Ben,

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obviously, and then Dylan, who was not in the last episode
because he was traveling, but heis back.
And real quick, Ben, if you justwant to go over the records so
far, see who's ahead and then wecan go from there.
So Belay had a bit of a comebackthis week.
He was in the last place going in.
But last week we we all went with the Chiefs and we all went

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with the Lions. The two progressive unanimous
picks, we went one and one thereand then we split for Bills,
Ravens and Rams. Eagles, me and Dylan were on the
wrong side of that. So me and Dylan ended up going
one and three and ballet and Luis went three and one.
That brings us to a total. Now for the whole play offs, I,

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me and ballet are five and five.Now Dylan is 6 and four in
second place and Luis, though not present, is apparently an
Oracle and he is 7 and three. So that's what we're looking at.
We should add a loss to him for not being here.
There's an appearance, there's aparticipation credit.
Well, yeah, let's let's not do that because I missed the last

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episode. And I think that's true.
I would prefer not to get an extra loss on my record.
Oh shit. So me and me and Dylan went with
the the Rams and the Ravens. We were wrong in both cases.
Pretty good close games though for both.
Those were fair ones I think to be split on.
Yeah, I think, I don't think theRams had it this year to really
carry it over the edge against ateam like the Eagles where you

(01:55):
have literally the best running back ever to exist since Adrian
Peterson feeling hurt. I don't know about that.
You might have just I'm just kidding up on that game.
I think. I think it was actually more sad
to see Lamar Jackson and more specifically Mark Andrews just
completely fumble that game. Really.
Brutal, really quite brutal against your.

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I feel like there are more rivals than than Josh Allen and
Patrick Mahomes just because they're going back and forth for
the MVP title. So I think I think that was
probably an an interesting game to to be watching and and just
see, I see it fall apart. I was, I was at a bowling alley.
We were fit. We like we're, we were.
We weren't playing bowling. We just wanted to watch the

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game. We weren't bowling or anything.
So we kind of stay there for theend.
And I remember my face just, like, shocked when Andrews
dropped it. And then I had tweeted on the
account, like a meme about it. And I was like, Oh my God, like
now Raven fans know how like Charger fans feel with Quentin
Johnson, right? Like you guys know how we feel
about this. But I'm seeing some takes about
how it's like, it wasn't Andrew's fault.

(02:59):
It was like Lamar's fault and the ball place, man.
And I don't know, at the end of the day, like if the ball was
right there, you catch that ball, dude.
Like there's no. It wasn't as easy as the
announcers were making out. To me.
They were like 1000 out of 1000.That happens.
But yeah, it was definitely not an easy catch, but it was
doable. That was, that was brutal.
And then get much worse for one game, like on one guy.

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What was that like within withinthe same quarter?
I mean, it was brutal, yeah. He 'cause he had fumble like the
possession before it did. Yeah.
I mean, what can you? Stands that was that was what
did you guys think of the of thechoice from the bills to to go
for that field goal ended up to go up 8 instead of going up two
scores. I like the move and obviously it

(03:41):
paid off so it's easy to say that now, but I thought it was
interesting. Well, I'm sure there's some
answer about NFL statistical math like where you have to or
the the touchdown is more valuable because it's worth more
points. You have to go for the risk.
I don't know. I I think it's probably probably
an interesting choice to go for.It would be my would be my take,

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not not the the ballsiest take or not the ballsiest choice
against Lamar Jackson, who couldhave probably usually just come
back if he was really on top of it and Marc Andrews didn't
exist. But.
There you go. I think also with the time
remaining, I mean, like it it did work out where even if the
Ravens did convert the two point, I think the Bills would
have had like a minute and some change left and that's like

(04:25):
that's enough time to get yeah, that's enough time to to kick
it. I think they would have gone
like a field goal. I wonder what like the live odds
would have been because I Lamar or Josh Allen with a minute 30
in the game left like two time outs.
All he has to get is the field goal.
I think he'd he'd be the favorite at that point, even
tied. I think he'd be able to be
regardless. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know. It was it was a sad game for
Raven fans, but I mean, you, I don't, I don't blame Lamar.

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I think Lamar had like a good game and at the last possession,
I think he didn't, he did prettygood too.
So I can't really believe. It was a perfect discourse game
because it didn't solve anything.
Like nothing. Nothing in our playoff claim
victory. But yeah, what was your guys
favorite game of the weekend? What do you think was the the
most fun one to watch? I'll be fully honest, I didn't

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watch the Rams game. I was on a flight.
I'm not a real fan here, but I Idid watch the chiefs game and I
think it was it was it was a good game to watch.
It was a good, solid game. I don't think the the Texans
really ever had a chance in thatgame with some voodoo magic
going on there and Patrick Mahomes literally tripping and

(05:29):
just somehow the ball landing inTravis Kelsey's hands for a
touchdown. And and it continues.
And they're I mean, you also have to admit that they're a
good team and they have great coaches and great rookies.
And you're the best quarterback of all time.
Probably if he wins this year. And like for this upcoming match
up with the Bills, I just I justcan't see this is going any

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other way. It has to be Chiefs.
We'll see. I think for me.
It does feel inevitable. It was the Ravens bills game, I
think just because like that wasthat game I think had the most
hype going into it for a while. It kind of looked like a dud,
but second-half was really good in that last like it was last
couple possessions were really fun to watch and.
It felt like a conference championship game.

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It did it fully felt like a conference championship game and
there was like snow. I thought that was like pretty
cool too. And I don't know, I, I, I, I had
hopes for like the lions game. I thought it it would be like a
nice offensive match up. I know the commanders who have a
really good defense, but I mean,I'm getting absolutely just like
demolished shocking. Like it's insane to think about

(06:31):
because I think us 3 have them going the Super Bowl and
winning. Luis was the one that picked the
chief. So we need new I'm I'm pretty
disappointed about that, man. I think that we'll we'll go into
the segment, but I wanted to askyou guys like your guys's
biggest disappointment this thislast week in terms of, you know,
NFL play. I think it definitely has to be
the lions for me. I'm a Niners fan, so I I felt
wrong doing this, but I, I was definitely rooting for the Rams

(06:54):
in that game. And that last drive at the end
when I think it was puka made the catch in the sideline, some
ridiculous Stafford throw that he barely ridiculous catch and I
fully was like, OK, the Rams are100% they're going to drive down
and score right here. And it, it would have been fun
with all the LA stuff. I'm kind of I, I enjoyed McVeigh
on the sideline this time. I it was nice not rooting

(07:16):
against them and I think they'rea fun team to root for And I
would have liked that story a little bit.
It would have been interesting. Yeah, you've been high on the
Rams. You've been picking them.
I Yeah. What held my predictions, too?
So that was the biggest disappointment.
Yeah, Well, I think like, like Iwas saying, Marc Andrews is my
biggest disappointment for this week.
Not the Ravens in general, but Marc Andrews.

(07:36):
I should have, I should have putmoney on him dropping footballs
this week. I think that would have been a
great. They should have called my
bookie and and told him I know what's going to happen, Marc
Andrews going to drop these balls.
So I think that's my biggest disappointment because I didn't
even get to watch Duran's game. I was, I was literally in the in
the air. It's like when you were like
last last year at the, at the last game of the NBA Finals.

(07:59):
I watched the first half as and as the plane was taking off, my
Wi-Fi cut off and I didn't know what happened for like 8 hours.
And I was like like sitting there like I wonder who won?
I wonder if this is still going on.
But. Let's let's get some mandatory
Wi-Fi on the plane. I think, you know, it'll just
push for a lot. I think it's really important so
we can watch our world games andthen, you know, parents could

(08:20):
text their children. I don't know.
That's also important, I think. Yeah, Well.
President Trump, here we go. President Trump, let's get some
free Wi-Fi on every single airline.
Let's do that. I mean, I could watch your
speeches live. I'm making this pledge to you
right now. President Trump gets free Wi-Fi,
mandated Wi-Fi in every single airline, and you can watch the

(08:41):
podcast in the air. Passes mandated Wi-Fi in the
air. I'm not using it just out of
principle. Oh, it's going to be called
Trump Round Fi Yeah. Trump fi it did T faults the
Truth Social. Yeah, there you go.
We should. We should get on that soon,
actually. Lucky.
You can commence him. Besides like biggest

(09:02):
disappointment, what was like the biggest surprise in terms of
like a team that did pretty wellor a team that surprised you in
a good way? Yeah, I mean, it was definitely
Commanders Lions. I was obviously we all pick
Lions. I was pretty shocked.
But I I it reminded me a little bit of I didn't catch all of it,
but reminded me of the Niners last year, like both their
playoff games where they kind ofgot shell shocked early.

(09:23):
It was Green Bay last year in the divisional round coming off
the bye. And it reminded me of that I
think, I believe was the Green Bay game last year.
The only reason the Niners got back into it was like that was
when Brandon Iuke had the ball that bounced off his head that
he caught. Like it.
It took some some miracles and alot of turnovers and Lions
weren't able to to recover at the at the coming off the the
week 1 the the the bye. And then also just them in

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Minnesota, both with that brutalgame last week of the season.
And it seems like it took a lot out of both teams.
So that's a good point. But that was surprising.
Yeah, I think it it has to be that.
I think the skill and the amountof pressure and the amount of
experience that NFL rookie QBs are coming into the with the
league literally just was it last year.

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CJ Stroud was like making history by going as far as an
NFL rookie has in however many years.
And I feel like just like JaydenDaniels, I, I heard somebody
today say that Jayden Daniels isthe truth.
I don't think you can not say that at this point.
He has to be the man of the moment.
And hopefully, hopefully he'll take his team.

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And my girlfriend is from DC, soI kind of have to have to say
that the Washington Commanders are probably my my team for the
rest of the NFL playoffs. Wow.
I'm whatever is whoever's playing against the Chiefs, I'm
I'm a fan of. So yeah, I think for me the the
biggest, I mean like commanders,yes, I can't lie like that
surprised me the most I have to say them.
But I also think like the Bills played a complete game, right?

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I think like all sides of the ball were good.
I think Josh Allen had a good game.
I think he had like 2 rushing touchdowns too.
Not necessarily a surprise, but they I feel like they command it
despite what the score, you know, shows.
They commanded that game for much and they were able to like
slow down Derrick Henry at leastenough.
Especially that was a big surprise for me.
I thought Derrick Henry would domore.
So I mean, their defense might actually be legit and stand a

(11:11):
chance against the Chiefs or some dark black magic shit.
And then they collapse, which could also happen.
But yeah, that's it for like thepast games we got we go look
into the future guys. We got to be progressive like
that and and look, look in the future.
But it's been you kind of went over the records.
I do want to just go over real quick.
Wild card round records. Ben was one.

(11:31):
Wait, wild card round record? No, the divisional.
So the divisional round records,yes, Ben was one in three.
Ben, how does that feel? One in three.
It was a rough week, but I have Dylan suffering the same fate.
So we're going to get through this together.
Yeah, Dylan also one in three Tam say over here I made a
comeback 3 and one baby three and one the Lions, you guys, you

(11:57):
guys really played a game on me.But Luis is also 3:00 and 1:00
so I can't be the only one that holds that mantle.
But total Ben, you're five and five wild card and divisional so
far. Dylan, you're six and four.
OK, Dylan, I am 5:00 and 5:00, so I'm tied with Ben and the
Luis is number one at 7:00 and 3:00, but we don't have that
many games left, but looks like I might not be last place there.

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There might be some. Hope maybe it's going to come
down down to the last few games.I I don't know if Luis has, I
think he's going to need some upsets and some brave picks from
us to have any chance to lose inthat first place.
So yeah, we got to be bold. Lord, I mean, yeah.
But essentially, I mean, let's let's go into real quick before

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we go into that. Ben Johnson to the to the Bears.
I think we kind of discussed about that because there were
some rumors behind the Raiders. But I was like, I'd rather go to
the Bears. You have the cap space, defense
is solid. You have the QB.
And it looks like that did happen.
It happened pretty quickly. Did you guys see the video of
Caleb Williams being pranked like last weekend?
So some like fans pranked Caleb Williams.

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They got his number and they acted like they were Ben Johnson
texting him like, hey, it's Ben.It's not like to finalize the
media, but I'm going to be the next coach.
He completely believes it. Face Times, the kid that's like
17 years old and the kids like they're just Caleb, really good
sport. He was laughing about it.
They're all laughing about it, but it looked like that did
actually happen. So Ben Johnson is now the coach

(13:23):
of the Chicago Bears. I think they're going to be a
really fun team to watch it. He's like a really good
offensive mastermind. We'll see what Detroit does.
I mean, what do they do at offense now?
Because I had one of my friends who was like, wait, LA did you
know that Dan Campbell doesn't doesn't call offensive plays?
I'm like, yeah, he doesn't. And then my friend's like, what
does he do? I'm like, he's a motivational
speaker, but he's a pretty good one.
Like, you know, he's a good management and yeah, but like,

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yeah, he doesn't call their offensive plays or anything.
So I think that's like, I think Chicago finally did something
good besides drafting Caleb Williams, right?
They actually are pairing him with a great offensive
mastermind, which is like the best thing you could give a
rookie heading into his sophomore year.
Yeah. I think besides a really good
line, obviously, yeah, that's what really all it's going to

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come down to. But but lay.
Are you actually? Are you going to forget that
Caleb Williams was a member of the USC Trojans?
Are you really? Oh yeah, I know.
I think don't stroke his ego that much that you're going to
betray your own school. Look, as much as I hate to say
it, like, I think he's good, youknow, and I want to root for the
kid. Like there's nothing like, but
that's the one factor. Like even like, that was the

(14:33):
reason why I was kind of rootingagainst Sam Darnold a bit too,
I'm not going to lie. But yeah, let's say he's in
Chicago now and I I like Ben Johnson a lot.
So we'll see what happens. He was at like the USC
basketball game or whatever. Airs 01720252026 seasons.
Go, I guess now will suffer if he goes back.

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I don't want Keenan to suffer. It's the downfall of Caleb
Williams. That's all I care about at this
point. We'll see.
Other than that, I mean, do we have any other, I mean, Ray Bowl
to the the Patriots? We kind of all talked about
that. We saw that coming a little bit.
Yeah. What do you guys think of that?
I mean, reunification, I think it's a good move.
I mean, they probably should have done it last year and maybe
would have if they didn't have like the weird quid pro quo

(15:18):
thing, though. I don't know.
It's a good move. It seems like a perfect fit.
Obviously he's got the history there.
I think they should be fun goingforward if they we'll see what
they do with that pick. That should have been a first
overall pick. That's why you fired the head
coach. The not before the game where
they're fighting for their job and you're fighting for a pick.
But it's a good. Point, good point.
OK, I let's just go straight into the games this weekend.

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We have two pretty big games, unless you guys want to cover
anything else. But we got the first game, which
is going to be Sunday at 3:00 PMEastern Time on Fox.
We have the Washington Commanders versus the
Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles are favourites here
-6.5 and the, I don't know, I, Ithink that I'm going to go with

(16:03):
the Eagles because of the run game.
It's in Philly and at the end ofthe day, like Jaden Daniels has
been a really good quarterback. But I think Jalen Hurts is who I
want and that match up, he's more experienced.
He's been to a Super Bowl. And I think that the pressure
will eventually get to Jaden Daniels.
I mean, it's really hard not to,you know, feel that pressure,
especially in the NFC Championship game.

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So I'm going with the Eagles. What do you guys think?
And you go for it. All right.
Well, I, I, I wouldn't be shocked if Jane Daniels, like
doesn't succumb to the pressure necessarily, but like the team
as a whole, I think it's still probably a year early.
I think the Eagles just kind of outlast them run game ends up
wearing down the defence and then just a few explosive plays
with, with Saquon and that's allit takes to like put it out of

(16:48):
hand. But I, I wouldn't be surprised
if like Washington comes out looking good.
The take coming out of it is theJane Daniels is still the real
deal. They're they're just a year away
and the Eagles are, are built for built for the long run.
It it feels right that the Eagles are gonna, are gonna move
on to the Super Bowl. That feels right to me.
And I don't know, Washington would be fun, though.

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But I, I think it's just, it's the easy answer.
Saquon's gonna dominate and they're gonna overpower.
My hot take is that Jason Kelsey's aura is no longer in
Philadelphia and and looking at looking at regular season
matchups. Whenever, whenever the Eagles
and the commanders have played each other, they're one in one

(17:29):
regular season. They're both within one scores.
I know the the eagles are favorited in the over under
odds, but you know crazier upsets have happened in this
league. So I'm my pick is is the
commanders because I'm drinking the Kool-aid on this one.
Gutsy. It's pretty gutsy, OK?
Yeah, yeah, Wants to overtake, Imean.
They're defensive, yeah. Defense has been amazing, guys

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like that. Jayden Daniels has been playing
really good, too. But that defense is really good.
Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense.
We have Dan Quinn. Eagles opened as five point
favorites. It's grown to -6.5.
OK, I don't know if anything's happened behind the scenes, any
injury or anything, but I think I think it was more certain that
Jaylen hurts. I mean, I think Jaylen hurt.
Yeah, it was more certain that Jaylen.

(18:11):
Hurts. So that's why it's -6.5 now.
But Louise also picked the Eagles.
And I mean, yeah, he also pickedthe Eagles for that game.
So looks like we're all going with the Eagles except Dylan.
So Dylan, this is your chance tomaybe tie Louise.
And looks like Ben and I aren't gonna have much separation here.
So we might just at least we'll be tied for last place unless we
both pick different Super Bowl teams.
Let's beat out Dylan. That's all that matters.

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Yeah, the next game is the Buffalo Bills led by Josh Allen,
and the Kansas City Chiefs, led by Devil Magic king Patrick
Mahomes from Taylor Swift. I do love you, but you know,
you're messing with a team that you know, deals with devil
magic. It's also on Sunday, 6:30 PM
Eastern. It's on CBS and Paramount Plus.

(18:54):
And for this game, the Chiefs are favorites.
It looks like the -2 So yeah, I'll let you guys go first for
this game and then I'll make my prediction at the end.
Well, this is the AFC matchup. I don't think it's just it's too
good. It's too good.
You can't choose anybody else. You have crazy speedy rookie
wide receivers. You have crazy, weirdly

(19:15):
geriatric, but old Travis Kelseystill making touchdown plays.
You have Patrick Mahomes and hissacrifice of young children in
the back rooms of the Chiefs stadium.
So I think I think this is this is the team to three.
P 2.0 FL Yeah, there you go. OK, so Dylan's going with the
the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, my, my gut completely

(19:38):
tells me to go with the Bills. I feel like Kansas City, like
the consensus, maybe there's been an overcorrection and like
everyone's just like, oh, well, obviously the Chiefs are going
to somehow pull it out. And maybe this one time Bills
kind of just come in with so much energy, they overpower that
and end up winning by like A2 score margin.
I I wouldn't be shocked, but I can't listen to my gut.

(20:00):
I got to go with the Chiefs. I got to fall with the crowd and
I would feel dumb picking against the Chiefs and.
Them pulling the same shit again.
So I'm gonna go with the Chiefs,But I very much feel like
there's a chance that it like the line is just everyone is
betting heavy on the Chiefs and everyone's assuming they're
going to pull through once again.
And maybe they don't. And maybe the maybe the media,

(20:21):
the NFL takes note and sends outa little thing to the rest to
extra not get them in hot water so that I'm sure that doesn't
happen. But couldn't rule that out.
So I don't know. I can't rule that out.
I'm going to go with Chiefs, though.
So Lewis is also going with the Kansas City Chiefs, just for the
record. And Ben, you brought out
something interesting. I think that that the Buffalo
Bills are going to win so big. That's going to be too big to

(20:42):
rig. That's what I think it's going
to be. It's going to be too big to rig,
guys. No, I think that.
I think the Buffalo Bill, I think the Bills are going to
win. And I'm not just saying this so
I can get ahead of Ben if the Chiefs lose.
My heart says it, but also like there's something in my gut that
says it too. I think that like we've all been
expecting the chiefs just to winagain and win in these odd ways

(21:05):
that involve like devil magic. But I really think I mean, I
believe like the Bills, their defense is good.
Josh Allen is playing good. I mean, they're all lines been
playing good. I just don't see why they don't
win. I mean, Patrick Holmes is the
reason why they don't win, right?
I mean, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce and and Andy Reid,

(21:27):
Mr. Andy Cheesburger Reid. I I think that the Bills win
this one. I think it's going to be close
three points if they win by a field goal.
And my heart says the Bills are going to win.
But I also think something in mygut tells me the Bills are going
to win. If the Bills do win, I get to
tell the three of you that I told you so and I am right and
Blaze always right. So and Ben will be the loser
going into the Super Bowl so. And I'll I'll extra regret it

(21:49):
because I really had everything you say.
I completely agree with I I think the Bills playing good and
it just it does feel right like it caps off the the Josh Allen.
And. The potential yeah.
Hailee Steinfeld afterwards Super Bowl.
Celebration. And it's going to be cold in
Kansas City, right? But like the Bills?
Play in Buffalo, so that. Doesn't even matter.

(22:10):
That doesn't affect them. If anything, it's warmer in Buff
in Kansas City. Yeah, so I my gut agrees with me
or agrees with you, but we'll see.
Let's see, I mean, I see I honestly betting against the
Chiefs is also a bad bet, but that's it.
We're going to break the devil magic guys.
We're going to. Break.
It supporting the devil. The interesting thing about this

(22:30):
is that if if Belay's right and Ben is wrong about the Bills and
the Chiefs, then Ben has to pickthe opposite team that that
Belay picks for the Super Bowl in order to make it a tie.
Or you could lose on the other one.
Yeah, you're. Yeah, you're Washington.
So we'll see. Yeah, that's true.
I guess with you too. This does make it pretty fun

(22:51):
though. OK.
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of, although I kind of feel like all
I maybe this is just me, but I kind of think all of us are
probably just going with the AFCteam for the Super Bowl, right?
That's kind of where I'm at. I don't know if it's the Eagles.
It's going to be tough. I think if it's the.
Command. Well, well, let's get into it.
So all three of us, Luis is the only one with a Super Bowl
prediction still standing. We all went with the Detroit

(23:13):
Lions, So let's let's make our new picks.
Hopefully they last longer than a week, but we will see.
Man. Yeah, I I feel like, I feel like
the reason why I agree with Belaze logic, if it is the
Commanders in the Super Bowl, they have already beaten the
Super Bowl worthy team in the Lions.
Maybe they didn't play like a Super Bowl worthy team in that

(23:35):
game. But if you if you're beating the
Lions, that's part of my logic too, is like if you're playing
the Eagles, who are Super Bowl team, Super Bowl contender each
year, like you're and you already beat the Lions, like you
beat the Eagles too, and you're just, it's like a coronation
ceremony out almost at that point.
Who do you, Dylan? So who was your pick?

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If you had to guess today, who'sgonna win the Super Bowl?
Would it be the Eagles? Isn't that for next next week's
podcast? Play.
Yeah, we gotta, we gotta update our picks.
We gotta update our picks where all three of us are eliminated.
Louis's pick only the only one that stands.
OK. Wait, so Super Bowl match up
between Chiefs and Commanders? No, it's anything you got.
To pick. Well, you 14.
Yeah. So according to your prediction,

(24:16):
it's it's it's, Yeah. I guess you got to kind of be.
Consistent chiefs and commanders, yeah.
So you got to line that. Up OK, so it has to be dude, no.
Where do I go here now I'm just like, I'm just feeling so much
bullshit. I don't know what to pick at
this point. Give me the Chiefs.
Yeah, make it a 3P Patrick Mahomes.
Michael Jordan is what's the difference?

(24:37):
I mean, they're the same person basically.
Really true. LeBron better.
I'm going Chiefs as well. I gotta gotta stick with it.
But I I'd pick whatever AFC team.
If it's Bills, I'll end up goingBills.
OK, I've been thinking about this guys.
I really think it's the Eagles. I just God, like something
really tells me it's the Eagles here.

(24:57):
I just makes, I don't know, likethey lost.
What? Like what was it 2 years ago?
They lost? I feel like it's they're like if
they go back, I think they're going to win it.
Like I just, I don't know, man. It's like the ghost of Jason
Kelsey, right? He's there.
Like he's there on the sidelinescommentating and he's.
That would be 1 ghost on the. Side 1 ghost.

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I think it's the Eagles. I think that it would.
Make sense, Like big picture wise, like if you just look at
it as like they made it to the Super Bowl a couple years ago
when the Eagles are tough. Yeah, and the Eagles are like a
tough team, man, Like a physically tough team.
And having Saquon, especially inthe Super Bowl, that's huge.
That is huge. That would be huge.
That would be huge. I think there there is a great

(25:41):
reason to say that whoever has Saquon is is just going all the
way. I don't.
I don't disagree with that. I I agree the NBA playoffs logic
of the best player in the matchup that team wins wouldn't
be although I then you're going against Mahomes, but still,
yeah, there's an argument, especially this year that
Saquon's most impactful. Yeah, I think, I think he is the

(26:02):
most valuable like player if youwant to go like straight up, I
value. I think he's been the Most
Valuable Player. Like he's been insane for the
Eagles. Not not Most valuable
quarterback, Most Valuable Player under the most.
Valuable Player, Yeah, just straight up.
Player I think, like I'm hoping that Philly's painting the
they're doing the blueprint for the Niners next year.
Lower year Super Bowl hangover. You guys still have Brandon

(26:24):
Staley or what? I don't know.
Apparently we're kind of puttingall the eggs in the Robert Solid
basket. Yeah, I saw the.
Defensive coordinators have signed that we would have
otherwise gotten, but as long asyou guys saw the back.
Staley, you guys aren't going anywhere, man.
I I don't even know what fake position they gave him it was.
He sounds like defensive. Run.
I don't know what he is. Like no, it was it was even like

(26:45):
faker than that. It was something like the buys
or like he was, let's find out, in some big picture role, But I
don't know if he's responsible for the defense last.
Year assistant head coach OK, that is a pretty.
Assistant head coach. Yeah, there you go.
So I don't really know what thatentails, but I didn't like the
results last. Year so live in was where the
Senate where where they practiceSanta Clarita.
Yeah. Santa Clara?

(27:06):
Santa Clarita is in LA. Oh my God.
The Santa Clara. Yeah, that's pretty nice.
I'll take that. It's a it's a nice area for
sure. Yeah.
Any last thoughts from you guys about what we're heading into
this weekend? I mean, nothing really important
happened this week. No, no, definitely.
I'm really excited for these games.
I think it was a great weekend. I really fucking.
I enjoyed watching all these games, even with my team out.

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I haven't experienced this in a while.
I've been lucky so, but it's been fun.
I'm excited for both these games.
I think they're really exciting match ups and I could see a lot
of different things happening so.
Ben, you're telling me that you didn't see your team lose by
like 18 points in person? I did not.
I did go. I went last year to the Warriors
Sacramento Kings play in game and I saw the Warriors get blown

(27:48):
out in the Klay Thompson over over 15 live.
That was that was a fun experience.
You saw that in person. I saw that in person.
I was laughing. Almost as bad as we've seen
Herbert throw 4 intercept, 3 interceptions.
I left like 5 minutes early. No, it's not No, it's not belay.
That's like that's like Kerber going oh, and 26, yes,
completely. That's really bad.
It was like yeah, it wasn't justthe end of a season, it was the

(28:10):
end. It was like, oh, this team sucks
now and. End of an era is.
Over, yeah. I thought the Lakers like sealed
that era when we beat you guys in the.
Yeah, but there was a glimmer ofhope remaining on that.
I was there, I think, I think brilliant 6.
That brought you Chris Paul for Jordan Poole Did not.
Did not. Yeah, they.
Weren't I'm excited for these games?

(28:30):
I'm excited for these games too,Dylan.
Anything you're looking out for?I think this weekend has just
been God guns Trump football. That's that's TikTok is back,
baby. There you go.
That one like night of politicalstunt they had.
Oh my God, all my friends textedme what's happening?
I'm like, guys, it's going to beback.
This is a political stunt. No, I was so annoyed because

(28:53):
I've been telling multiple people in my life like.
They did not have to do this. They did not have I've been.
Telling people for for months actually, like, oh, it's not
really going to get banned. It's like fake.
They're going to figure something out.
Like I'd be shocked. And then I was like, they were
all bragging for like 5 hours and I was like, damn, yeah they
didn't. Even have to do it was
completely stunt. I mean smart tactic by them
though, because we know who's drunk operates.

(29:13):
Yeah, Brilliant, Brilliant. Yeah.
But. Well, I mean, the VMVP, Kamala
Harris, she's back in LA. She's back in her house at
Brentwood, pretty close to Dylanand I.
And she landed in LA. First thing she did was go to a
food bank and meet with some of the fire victims up in Pasadena.
Literally first thing she did. She didn't even go home.
So she's been posting a lot today and yesterday.

(29:33):
I don't think she's, I don't think she's out of public life.
Guys, you don't post. You don't post the next day.
A gun to your head. What's What's her next governor?
Governor, I'm leaning. Governor, Oh my, what these
fires especially she's going to.The and you need someone who's
not associated with Gavin Newsomor just somebody.
California right now, yeah. And you hear about it and it's

(29:55):
like Gavin fucking Newsom might even matter of the God damn
governor's mansion in Sacramento.
I think he's done a solid job. He's been.
He's been down here in LA for like 3 weeks now I think.
Yeah, yeah, he's, he's definitely, he's definitely been
a good governor so far and especially since he's making
DID. You see the permit thing he did
today, he he's eliminated a lot of the permitting to, to get rid
of the like the the bra bowl so you could start rebuilding.

(30:17):
He like, yeah, they're speedlining the they're
speedlining the process pretty quick.
I have just kind of, I think he's done fine.
I've kind of a take that I don'tthink it may have been different
in the past, but I don't think in today's era with social media
that a disaster, especially natural disaster hitting you can
be a political positive. Really.
I think social media is so easy.The facts don't really matter.

(30:39):
Anything can spread any idea anyperceived failure of the
government that is probably it'shard.
There's no other option. Like there's nothing that could
have been done about optics. Yeah.
The the only counter example I guess would be like Shapiro and
that like bridge fell, but that that's a very contained thing
that had like a fixable like concrete way to actually do
something. So I think like nowadays it's
hard in your state you're you'refucked.

(30:59):
There's there's not like. I think it's difficult.
And I also think, I mean, I don't know.
I mean like the Santas with the Hurricanes, but he's like been
doing this for a while. So he kind of gets the, you
know, the the reception he receives.
But I think I don't know. What do you think she does?
I think she, I think Governor Ben.
You agree, Governor? Yeah, I mean, I was, I was
leaning that she probably wants to keep 2028 open and I feel.

(31:20):
Like, oh, she can keep it open with running, yeah.
I don't know if she can. I think it's that's a tough.
I mean if she frames it as like a she's the opposition leader as
she's running for governor, I could see it I guess.
But it's pretty hard to immediately be like she'd have
to announce her campaign immediately after taking office
as. Governor, I I don't think so.
I if anything, this election cycle showed us the, the
election cycles don't need to bea year and a half long.

(31:41):
And I think she showed us that right?
Yeah, but I think you could you could do the exact counter
example that I almost think fitsbetter of Trump, where he
announced immediately after the midterms and that kind of made
him ubiquitous. But I think it made it so
everyone else who came after. I think Trump said just a way
different phenomenon because let's say he, I even think if he
announced much later, he still would have won the nomination.

(32:02):
He. Probably would have been with
her. I think if I actually disagree,
I don't think she needs to be the opposition leader.
I think she needs to run as we're going to fix XY and Z in
California. I'm going to do a good job about
this. We're going to focus on
California that first year, thatfirst year, like the 2027, the
first four months, right? She gets all these bills passed,
They're cleaning up the state, whatever it is.
And then let's say beginning of 2028 like December ish, they she

(32:24):
announces her candidacy. I mean, I could even see the DNC
moving some of the primaries a little bit further down the road
for that too. I I hope not.
Get her out of national politics, please.
Man. No, I do think that there is a
path to her to reframe her image.
There is, Governor. I'm.
Cracking down on the crazy in inCalifornia taking us back.

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I'm making California great again.
Basically like. Cleaning it up, whatever it.
Is but making her like kind of this moderate like not the the.
Crazy. Yeah, I think that's that's what
that. I do think also like I agree
more with Ben's take on like herturn around in a in a campaign.
If she was going to run for governor and she had to turn
around 2027 and be like, OK, I'mlaunching my campaign super

(33:08):
late. I think the the main problem
that voters had with Conroe is that they just didn't know who
she was. That was like.
Well, I think they know who she is now.
I well, they obviously knew who she was vice president.
Like it's not like it's not the name that recognition, it's the
policy recognition. It's the background.
It's like we can paint you as the person who wants to support

(33:28):
transgender youth being transitioned in illegal
immigrant prisons or whatever that quote was.
And because she was like enough of an unknown, they could paint
that on her. And I don't think that's like a.
I agree, but I think the best way for her to rebrand her image
is by actually being a governor and governing.
I think that's. The way that you could
convincingly do that in such a short period of time, and you

(33:50):
somewhat convinced me with the bills immediately, but I think
it'd be a little hard to. Order.
California, if it was that. Quick look, I think it's I think
like we just talked about socialmedia optics.
I mean, all a lot of eyes are onher already.
If she's first of all, while sheis running for governor, she's
going to get the most attention like we can, we can agree by
that, like she's going to get the most attention in the 2026

(34:11):
midterms. So that helps her a what she's
saying on the campaign, like thecampaign stage.
So probably do some like nationally televised like debate
against her opponent. Like she'll probably agree to
some of that stuff town halls for like, oh, I'm running for
governor, but really I'm going to run for president later on.
She has the whole 2026 election cycle where like we're
forgetting that is an election cycle and she can start

(34:32):
positioning herself which gives her an advantage.
But hey, I'm running into. That makes her the opposition
leader a little bit. Too.
Yeah, that, Ben, you're right about Democratic message for the
midterms. Exactly.
So all she needs to do is suck up that energy in the midterms,
which she will if she runs for governor.
And then hey, 2027, take a couple months to chill, govern,
come back into the national media, point to your successes.

(34:54):
And I think it depends how the country feels about the Trump
fans administration. If they're at 40%, I can almost
assure you she runs like there'sno way that's.
A great point actually, because I think in the in the like
vacuum, I think she's setting herself up more for like
everything you're saying is true, but it's easier to pull
off of it's 2032 JD Vance wins and like is running for re
election and she runs against it.

(35:14):
But I think you're totally rightthat like it's kind of like a
press in case of emergency. Like if she the polls are
looking shitty for them around the midterm, I think that like
she can easily be like, actually, let's speed this up a
little bit and. Alien votes.
I mean she's I. It depends on the circumstance
in the context I, I I think. Circumstance and context like is
very important too, though. He is.
Who would you say was the opposition in 2018 to Trump?

(35:39):
I don't think you would say it was.
There was Biden, and I think that.
And I think that hurt us. I think that hurt us.
That was done. So it just let Joe Biden come in
and he was the establishment figure.
I mean, I guess it was maybe like a Bernie Sanders.
Like it was with Warren, I did I.
I don't know, like Harris kind of also well.
Actually, I think it was. It was.
Definitely if you're going to fill in the case, it was, I

(36:00):
think it was Bernie and it's kind of a good replica, even
though like he was less so obviously, which is why he
wasn't so strong going in the premier.
He was, he was the guy who was in town halls on scene.
Yeah, he was the guy who had ran.
For president in 2016, and it was kind of like a four year
presidential campaign where everyone knew he was running, a
lot of Dems were kind of. Positioning themselves some
closer to him, but I I don't think.
That like the the framing of an opposition leader.

(36:23):
It might be a a picture that Kamala can paint, but it's not
the reality. Like that's the why I asked the
question because like in 2018, there was no opposition leader.
Maybe you could say Bernie, maybe you could say Liz Warren.
Maybe you could say I think like, yeah.
But I think. There's it's more continuity
with her. Like Bernie was kind of like,
OK, well, what's his claim to this?
Oh, he might run president againfor her.

(36:44):
Yes, she would get so much mediarunning for governor.
Like if Hillary Clinton was running for Senate in New York
again or something like in 2018,like, I think she would have
been like the public spotlight. I mean, that she wouldn't for a
million reasons that wouldn't, Ithink.
I think it's a little different.With her and Kamala because I
don't think Democrats blame Kamala as much as they blamed
Hillary. But I agree with the Trump.
Like comparison, I think she herbest chance of winning the

(37:06):
primary. I honestly, I kind of think she
can win the primary no matter what if she really wants it
because just the polls are so bombing.
And I know people compare it to like Biden or whatever in 16 or
in 20, but it's not even close to the same range.
Like she's dominating and there's not a clear #2 like
there was with Bernie and stuff.But I think the longer she waits
and if she runs for governor, like it open, like her best
strategy to win is if the default is oh, calm was running

(37:28):
again, she's going to be the nominee again.
The longer she waits and like Shapiro jumps in and all these
people have already jumped in and then it's like, oh, she's
running in a primary. I think all these people.
Like it should be. A built in thing if she wants to
win, yes I think. The calculus in here is like
again, tramp the Trump fans administration, if they start
getting unpopular quickly, especially with the 20226

(37:50):
midterms, everyone's going to belooking at her and they kind of
sink to like 40% high 30s for like Biden was.
I think she's the default. I think it's really hard not to
go with her when you have an unpopular administration.
It's like going with Trump again.
I just think that it, it dependsall.
I think that she will be a lot more comfortable running for

(38:10):
governor of a state she is from,that she's literally born in,
that she knows so much about. Like first of all, it's a
practice run. On on coming because the
campaign isn't hard and she'll win.
I think the first step is like the.
Fact that she flew in and like and obviously we have so much
compassion for the people who come impacted by the wildfires.
That's the first thing she did. She literally landed, heard and
dug, went straight to, she landed in Burbank.

(38:31):
She usually ends up in LAX, landed in Burbank and went
straight to Pasadena all night. She was there meeting with the
firefighters mean with people distributing food like she knows
this state really, really well. I think she is most comfortable
running. Like her Senate run was really
good, right? She had a really good Senate
run, Attorney general run like that was really close, but she
pulled it through. So I think she is most

(38:51):
comfortable in that position andthat will kind of allow her to
grow. And, and if she is governor, I
think a lot of Americans could be like, OK, look, she can
govern. I think that was the issue with
her were like, Americans were like, Oh yeah, she was vice
president, but what did she really do?
Can she handle this? Like Americans don't dislike
Kamala Harris. Like I think her favorable
rating was like 47% on election night, which is pretty damn
good. She had a higher favorable

(39:12):
rating than Donald Trump. It was like, can she actually do
the job? And I think being governor of
the largest state and implementing some of these
reforms and and I think she's going to be the most comfortable
doing that. I mean, we'll see.
Again, it depends how unpopular do they get on do the Trump fans
administration, do they get unpopular?
We'll see what happens. I will just, I think California.
Is a place to get some easy likepublic dubs to like optics wise

(39:33):
that actually breakthrough because I think it's easy to
like be like, oh, I'm making these big changes in California
executive order chief. Housing in California, Yeah,
it's easy to be the. Chief person in California in a
place. Very easy National here is
considered pretty negative like and the legislator will listen
to her. But if they don't listen to they
don't listen to Newsom that much.
But Phil listen to Kamala Harrisbecause they're like, well, we
want a job in her future administration.

(39:53):
The new era of California. Like Raffles.
But Dylan, do you like gun to your head?
Does Kamala Harris run for governor in 2026?
I think. I I can hide this to actually
another very prominent historical California
politician. I think Kamala Harris's
political career so far is very similar.

(40:14):
And if you're, if we're going down the path that you 2 are
talking about, I think it's verysimilar to actually Richard
Nixon and perfect replica. It's scary.
It's scary out similar somebody who served as a.
California Senator. They're both in the term early.
Yeah, there you. Go EPA.
Somebody who served part of a term as Senator of California,
ran on the ticket, become vice president, ran in the subsequent

(40:37):
election after the president wasdone with their term in office.
Lost and now we're talking aboutwhat, four years later coming
back again. It's, it's not exact, but it's
it's nice, but it could be exact.
It's. It's even like more scary
similar that Nixon ran in a midterm election that was open
for governor. Two years after losing that

(40:57):
election, it would be exactly 8 years right to run again.
Well, and no. And then he lost.
He lost. The race for governor, I think
we're we can be pretty confidentif she chooses a run that will
happen. But.
And then he ran. Yeah, I believe it was it was
eight years after the presidential loss.
Six years after the presidentialloss.
Wow. I think I.
Think 2032 would be the. Stand in are Richard Nixon and
Kamala. Harris same people?
Let's hope so. I haven't seen.

(41:18):
Evidence. Otherwise.
But I, I do think it would, it would make sense, but it also
four years in American politics,it's, it's an eternity and also
not very long at all. I think like a similar example
is like Bernie Sanders 2016 and 2020, Like it was an eternity in
the sense that his movement actually got Co opted by like

(41:41):
everyone and their mom in the 2019-2020 Democratic primary.
But also, he came back and was the only last remaining person
against Biden and was still polling pretty well up until,
like, it fell apart. Obviously, I was just looking at
that. I had.
I was just looking. At Super Tuesday, I think it's a
crazy because it is really weirdto like look back at a Wikipedia
article of something kind of recent like that.

(42:03):
They all just dropped one. By one but looking at like Iowa.
And, and New Hampshire and Nevada before it's got to South
Carolina, like how bad that Biden was doing in, yes, those
early states, like 12%. And then I think that he came in
second. Though I was well then, so
that's what. Changed is that Pete almost won
New Hampshire. An interesting alternate
history. Pete loses New Hampshire by 1%

(42:24):
to Bernie if he wins New Hampshire coming off winning
Iowa technically I feel like does he get all the momentum and
stay in? But what I was looking at is
super. I think Bernie would have won
Nevada regardless. Though oh, Bernie would have
known Nevada, but. I but does the moderate
coalition happened later I saw someone say this on Twitter an
interesting move for Bernie would have been Nevada right
after winning. I don't know if he if she would

(42:46):
have said yes but reaching out to Kamal and being like let's do
the ticket today coming out Nevada.
I think I I also. Agree that regardless if I mean,
I think Kamala Harris would havebeen the VP nominee no matter
who. I don't know much everyone.
Yeah, I think I if anything, shewas actually more aligned with
Bernie that year. So yeah, true.
So she wouldn't have had to do all the weird positioning like

(43:08):
being like, no, that's not but yeah, it was my position, not
Biden's position. Like I think that's that's a
good point actually. But all I.
Had to say with like all of thislike positioning and stuff, I do
think it's almost like a Biden esque argument that you could
make in 2028 is like, if the Trump administration is
unpopular again, if you need someone to return to normalcy,

(43:29):
who would you call besides a former vice president, former
California senator, still kind of young in comparison to Trump
and Biden and California governor?
Yeah, exactly. And.
At that point, Governor, I do think it makes sense.
I do think though, if Trump is popular in any shape or form,
like above or at like slightly above where he was in his first

(43:54):
term or above where Biden was, then I don't think she makes
sense because you just need someone who speaks to a
different audience in a different voter base in the.
I think at that point we're justthe.
Dems are just kind of toasted ifhe has like a 46% approval
rating heading into that election.
I mean, actually, I don't know. Who knows, We'll see.
Well, one more thing on. Kamala's political future I I

(44:15):
agree with you that like work, she shouldn't run if the
approval ratings like solid around the midterms or whatever
my kind of take is. I mean, I don't know what she
personally will do, but I don't really see a scenario very
clearly in my head where she chooses to run for president in
2028 and doesn't get the nomination.
Do you guys see the scenario that is number?
I feel like it would be so easy for her to call let maybe if

(44:36):
Trump is really popular, there could be like dumb voters are
more scared to like go back. But I really I think if she goes
in there, she's so popular with the base.
She has all this. No, I think so too.
She does have like real support within the base, like that is a
real thing. Like there is energy in the base
for her and there's not like a clear.
Opposition that would make like a very clear argument like a
moderate lean necessarily. I could see Bernie endorse her.

(45:00):
Yeah, maybe. I mean I I don't know who like
the Bernie candidate would be and does Josh Shapiro have that
different of a lean as I think AOC would probably endorse?
Her too. I mean, they were like, yeah.
I mean, I don't think she's going to run.
Against Kamala from the left, like I don't think AOC is going
to do that. So I don't know.
What do you guys think? I I've not looked at numbers.
At all, Obviously, I, I think all those numbers are probably

(45:21):
way too early anyways, but they are too early.
I, I do think like you are coming off of a defeat where a
lot of people expected Kamala towin.
Probably is a lot of empathy that people have with her.
But I just also feel like the sense that I've gotten is that
like, yes, a lot of people don'treally blame her, but also she
was part of this historically unpopular administration.

(45:44):
And also there are parts of her personality and her as a
politician that are just not very likable.
Her presence in in a lot of speeches and her, I think she
got better. As time went on, I I do, I do
think she got. Better, I just think she'll have
another training run with. The Governor, California.
I think she's a lot more comfortable here.

(46:04):
Yeah, I do. I do feel.
Like it would be a. Like it would feel like a return
to the establishment quo, like status quo.
I thought it would be in like a populist era.
I do. I just something about it feels,
I don't know wrong. She was a.
Populist in like 20. I don't she's I don't know.
Well, I also I thought something.
Interesting in the campaign thatshe didn't really pull out until

(46:25):
the last few weeks. So it wasn't really a real
message. But I I thought it was
interesting. She started talking about how I
spent most of my career not in Washington, like I'm not part of
the establishment. And she didn't do that.
And I wonder if she could lean on that a little more of being
like, I don't know, like what's going on in DC and all this
dysfunction that there's been few years.
Yeah, I'm focused on California.Like, I'm not in this
establishment that's creating all this like chaos.

(46:47):
Over the last few years. So I wonder if she could lean on
that messaging. I think this all goes back to,
like, what we all I think agree on is, like, circumstance and
how popular the Trump fans administration are.
Like, I think that's what it goes back to.
And I think, yeah, there's only so much of a difference that you
can make from, like, any of these candidate perspectives
that come from the tides. Yeah.
I think. I think.
She's definitely gonna. I just don't see a scenario

(47:09):
where she doesn't run for governor.
I just don't. Well, it's funny you've you.
Have convinced me though, because I was thinking of it as
like run for governor or run forpresident and that that's how
she's thinking of it. But I like your take of like if
she runs for governor, probably baseline scenario.
Maybe she's setting herself up for 2032 but it's like if the
approval ratings are bad and it looks like there's a lane.

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Like she jumps in and cruises. This up yeah and again the media
attention she'd garner running for governor would be she'd be
the most high profile governor Imean person running and because
of that I think she's. Absolutely gonna run.
I'm convinced of it. Bovada.
I put those betting odds up for me.
I need to. Yeah.
I mean, we'll see. I I think I think it.

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Is more it's the more question is will she run in 2028?
I do. I do think I agree she'll
probably will run like fuck the Lieutenant governor, whoever she
is. The successor of Gavin, hey
that's her first like Asian woman like.
It's it's the lowest. Name track field.
Ever. I was like blown away looking
through it. But besides John Fetterman in
Pennsylvania. He was Lieutenant governor.

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He was kind of. That was true which?
Is funny because I think Lieutenant Governor for for
Pennsylvania is like the it's like a fake job compared to I
think California is elected directly, but Pennsylvania it's
like vice president like you runon the governor's ticket so it
no, I think California you. Also, I think you also run on
the governor's ticket, do you? If I'm not, I don't remember
voting like everyone. I don't remember voting for

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Lieutenant governor unless I just.
I don't really either. But I.
Don't know, I thought. I don't think I would have left
that blank either. You're, you're protesting.
And we'll see, man, I think. That she I don't know again,
it's like all she can like we God knows what it well, it's so
early it'll be. It'll be fascinating to see how
the next few months unfold. I think there's so many unknowns
and like so many different political actors that I it's

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going to be so interesting to see what they do.
Like, how does Kamala position herself?
And yeah, it's, I think right now just.
Just. She seems to be focused on like,
the fires and she is, which is the right thing to do from a
moral standpoint and just kind of focus on like, take some time
away from the media and then start focusing on California,
which she already has started. Yeah, she'll probably announce
like Near. May, I would guess if she's
going to do it or at least we'llget some rumblings.

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I think longer no you. I think maybe a little bit later
she. Could announce, I'm sure we'll
get. Like a little bit of rumblings,
yeah. There'll be some.
Reporting well, I'd and also we'll know because I'm sure
people are not going to want to jump in the race and then
immediately have to jump out. I was reading like so many
people. Are just like waiting on that
right now. Yeah, I'm sure.
So I'm sure. She'll indicate a little bit to

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some people, especially the establishment types, but yeah,
it's a good point, yeah. It'll be it'll be a shit show
for. The next four years, we'll see.
Maybe 8. We'll see.
Fingers crossed, not 8. Stay tuned.
For a really good episode that'sgoing to come out next week,
we're going to be analyzing the Trump administration first week
with a really special guest. He's an awesome guy, but you

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have to come back to see who that is.
I don't think Dylan and Ben know, but I think Ben, you know
what I'm talking about. I know a little bit.
Lots of very exciting. Guests in the next few weeks.
Yeah, Marianne. Williamson might be on soon,
yes, and maybe some elected. Officials, we might.
We're moving up in the world so stay tuned with the progressive
feed. We're excited, yeah.
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