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July 15, 2025 83 mins

In this eye-opening episode of Broken Healthcare, host Ray Kober sits down with Shawn Gremminger, President & CEO of the National Alliance of Healthcare Purchaser Coalitions, to expose why healthcare feels out of control — and what employers can actually do about it.


Shawn brings decades of insider knowledge from Capitol Hill, lobbying firms, and national coalitions to reveal how policy, politics, and industry forces shape the $5 trillion U.S. healthcare system — and why employers have far more power than they realize.


🔎 In this episode:

  • The truth about lobbyists, money in politics, and how healthcare laws really get made
  • The story behind the No Surprises Act and why it almost didn’t pass
  • Why most employers are “self-funded” in name only — and how to fix that
  • How the National Alliance influences policy for 90M+ lives
  • Why regional coalitions may be the key to reshaping healthcare at scale
  • A behind-the-scenes look at working in D.C. — and why compromise still matters


💬 “We can’t keep pretending we have no control. Employers have more leverage than they realize — they just need to organize, get loud, and push back.” – Shawn Gremminger


If you're a CFO, CHRO, benefits leader, or policy junkie, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.


📺 Watch now and subscribe for more real talk from the front lines of healthcare reform.


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