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Stacey & Brian literally sweat out an episode in hot & humid Florida while visiting the kids. 

Questions range from what makes us feel loved, classes we would retake in high school and the craziest thing everyone did in their youth.

Brian confesses he started drinking and smoking at an absurdly young age.  

Annoyingly , it turns out everyone on the planet has cheated except Stacey & Kenzi. 

Someone in the family has arrested a serial killer and Brian thinks the killer is now listening in Folsom prison. 

Kenzi & Bailey’s dog “Snips” has zero respect for the production and keeps trying to ruin the show. 

“Mansplaining” is attempted with terrible results …

Aynsley & Brian tripped balls on the St. Pete Pier and ripped some rave music from two  kids. 

…and the podcast gets downloaded in Islamabad. 


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Stacey Upton (00:20):
Welcome to the broken tiles podcast. With Brian
Spacey. Today we have Yes.
Bailey up to NZ shisler. Hi. AndAinsley up to Hello. B Ainsley

(00:40):
and returning. Where are we?
We're in St. Petersburg,Florida. When visiting Bailey
and Kenzie, finally it's been ayear they've been here and we're
finally able to come visit ayear.

(01:02):
But we're so excited to have youguys.

Brian Upton (01:04):
This thing has gone. Absolutely. Beyond the
millions of followers we havenow, which I've referenced. This
is our second mobile broadcast,which is incredibly expensive.
The production value to bringthis thing 3000 miles to the
east coast to St. Petersburg,Florida

Stacey Upton (01:26):
is 3000 miles.

Brian Upton (01:28):
It's 3000 miles, it's a million followers. That's
a huge budget.

Stacey Upton (01:33):
There is a lot of grandiosity happening.

Brian Upton (01:38):
There is no ass in that word. You said grandi
Asante, she

Stacey Upton (01:43):
definitely did.

Brian Upton (01:46):
The playback will validate my so we're excited. We
are we were excited to do this.
I think we planned this trip amonth ago. Right? Roughly ish,
and maybe a little more. And Ithink the the plan was to bring
the podcast equipment out andplay the game with the kids. And
so we're super excited. I thinkto kind of get this thing going.

(02:07):
We're going to try impossibly tostay on time.

Stacey Upton (02:11):
We will attempt and one thing I wanted to
mention is we have an additionalguest who you may hear panting
in the background snips.

Bailey Upton (02:21):
That's our golden doodle. Two year old puppy who
is laying directly under thetable begging for pets from all
of us right

Stacey Upton (02:29):
now. So unprofessional part of the
family. Should we get right intothe game? Let's do it. Well hang
on now I can't remember yearskids are okay. I've chosen

(02:56):
questions that are applicable toeverybody here. Not necessarily
focused on couples. So we can wecan all answer this question
number one, guess who found anew buddy? What makes you feel
most loved? And we will startwith Ainsley. Oh,

Brian Upton (03:20):
Leanne Ellen's.

Aynsley Upton (03:23):
Um I wasn't ready to go first.

Brian Upton (03:28):
This podcast isn't tense.

Aynsley Upton (03:33):
I think without having time to think about it
too much. What makes me feelmost loved is just quality time,
I guess. And like intentionaltime. And being able to have

(03:56):
conversations with somebody thathas listened to me and knows who
I am. So that kind of time spentis good.

Stacey Upton (04:08):
A familiarity with somebody? Yeah. Yeah, that's
nice. Definitely feels good.
Things going really

Bailey Upton (04:18):
well makes me feel most loved. My first thought was
basically what Ainsley said Ithink our whole family probably
feel that way. Yeah, just thetime spent. Just kind of quality
of time spent is very importantto us and also using intention
of time spent it's alsoimportant to me as to just yeah,

(04:40):
obviously everyone wanting to betogether. But that is probably
one of the most important thingsto me is is exactly the same
answer to so boring but it'sjust it's a yeah, it's just just
as important to me that timespent with the people I love

Stacey Upton (05:00):
Hey, kids, he's jamming. And let's see, what's
your answer?

Kenzi Schissler (05:06):
For me, it's all about words of affirmation.
I need to hear that you love meand that you're happy to be
spending time with me. And justlike, hearing that you're
excited to be with me and thatyou appreciate what I do those
things really make all thedifference for me.

Stacey Upton (05:27):
There's lots of love languages happening here
right now. Yeah, there are.

Brian Upton (05:32):
Right and I think the thing we try to do is also
expand this and I think, aquestion like that, we
immediately get in the box of,for Ainsley, she's thinking of
the people in this room. She'sthinking of Stefan, but I think
Kinsey's answer makes me thinkabout, we can find that word

(05:52):
love to our spouses, ourboyfriends or girlfriends. But I
think Kinsey's answer makes methink you're looking for that
even in your curriculum, you'relooking for that from a
professor,

Kenzi Schissler (06:04):
I'm looking for it from my friends, I want it in
every relationship that I have,is really important. That's

Brian Upton (06:10):
it, I think, for like going back to ainz Lee's,
and knowing you so well, thatit's not in the box of our
family, or like we talked about,I think you're searching for it
sometimes at an interactionserving coffee. Oh, always. And
that's

Aynsley Upton (06:27):
the thing. Like I've been able to experience
that from the smallest ofinteractions with people at
work, or in really greatfriendships. And it's something
like Kennedy said, I look forit. In everything I do. I mean,
even if even to connect it totheater, that's why I do theater
is for quality connection andtime right now.

Brian Upton (06:50):
And I think it's my turn. So I'll go quick to
expound on that a tiny bit. Butto broaden the subject for
people that are listening is yesto everything you guys said.
There's no doubt about it thatthat would be one. But one a for
this question. To me it would beI feel loved when I feel like

(07:10):
equity in like, a surprisingequity in the day. And that can
be through a walkthrough with aclient that respects what our
guys do for work. It could bewith the magazine where you
inexplicably run into equity ina conversation or somebody
showing respect. And I do feel asense of the word would be like
love for all that we are becauseyou're like, oh shit, there's

(07:34):
there's a little hope inhumanity right now. And, and I
do love when that happens. Likethat good. Hold on stays. Some
people want to weigh in? To myanswer again. This is weird, but

(07:54):
it happens all the time. Ifrickin love you guys to every
single one of you wanting toknow what a million people sound
like.

Stacey Upton (08:06):
Tell me.
Interesting how these reactionsonly happen when it's your
answer. And you are the personthat has control of it all
hurtful. Okay, for my answer, Iwill say kind of elements of
what everybody has said. But ifI feel listened to. And it's

(08:32):
sort of reflected back to me,even if I don't know, I think
that is a moment where I ammoved. Because it says, Then
then it feels like somebody wasreally paying attention. You
know, I feel heard. And I thinkI think I probably didn't feel

(08:55):
like that was the case a lotwhen I was growing up. And so
it's really special to me. Now.
I think I really appreciatethat. One thing I wanted to say
is, if anybody is listening andheard me mentioned love
language, I think we've talkedabout it on this podcast before.
But there's a book by GaryChapman, that describes the love

(09:17):
languages and also gives you aquiz and it can be found online
as well. But so interesting tofirst of all, understand what
your own love languages becauseyou can share that with somebody
that cares about you. And theycan try to put that into
practice. And then of course,you want to learn what their
love language is, too. It's itreally it's helpful. And just

(09:39):
like Kennedy said, it can bemore than just your partner. It
could be the people that youspend time with in any capacity.
And it's it's helpful. Just havethat insight about yourself. So
you know what's important toyou.

Brian Upton (09:53):
That was good stuff. You pulled the next
question out to kill some time,guys last night. This is really
good. anything last night ispositive. Oh, I stole this from
a dude laying next to us. Theravers. Wow, I'm actually funny.

(10:14):
Yeah. I don't know how to playclub music. And I was like I was
ruthless to soul. Wait, tellthem Kenzi what that is down
there.

Kenzi Schissler (10:26):
So down on the St. Pete Beach Boardwalk or not
boardwalk, the pier. There isthis incredible art exhibit. And
during the day, it just lookslike this weird mesh canopy but
at night. They. Yeah, they lightup the mesh with different
colors, that kind of change. Andit sways in the breeze. It's so

(10:48):
beautiful. And last night, wekind of sat underneath it. And
there's areas where the sky kindof peaks through through big
holes. And these people next tous were listening to really
awesome. Just we were taking itin. It was awesome. Yeah.

Stacey Upton (11:05):
So this art exhibit is by an artist named
Janet Edelman. And she's fromthe Tampa Bay area. And I would
encourage you to check it out.
Even look it up online if youhave an opportunity because it's
really something

Brian Upton (11:19):
and Ainsley and I would highly recommend laying on
the grass no below the blackhole and tripping balls.
completely lose

Aynsley Upton (11:30):
yourself in the space time.

Stacey Upton (11:33):
And I think the music might have helped that.

Bailey Upton (11:35):
Absolutely. It was the closest that I were
tripping.

Brian Upton (11:40):
They were and so I told mom this morning, they said
I think I found a portal intothe youth as far as what they
might be doing when they havethose silent kind of raves.
Yeah, I still I think I finallyfound the music. They might be
listening because they're superchill when I see it for sure.
And they're listening tosomething. And I think it's this
dude,

Stacey Upton (11:57):
it's not surf punk. Okay.

Brian Upton (12:03):
Oh, Stacy. Yeah. Is it every single pet, we pay this
band $1,000 to transition? Oh,snippers payment must be it must
been that high pitch noise.

Stacey Upton (12:23):
Okay, so I've chosen another question. And it,
it can be used, you know, in acouple of situation. But I think
I'm going to turn the wordingaround a little bit to make it
more usable for this scenario.
So the question is, do you feelaccepted by me? And I'm going to
turn it to say maybe what makesme feel accepted? Ooh, is that

(12:44):
answer too close to what we justhad? Might be

Brian Upton (12:51):
makes me feel loved. It makes me feel
accepted. It's, it's prettyclose. My answer would probably
be similar. Yeah. I could comeup with someone else. Nice job
stays. Yeah, well, wait aroundthe whole show. I can save it.
Hold on.

Stacey Upton (13:05):
No. He's pulling out his question book you.

Brian Upton (13:10):
Once you take a minute, get yourself in the
organization of these questionsto stimulate the conversation
together, and I'll drop a bomb.
Oh,

Stacey Upton (13:19):
my God. He's mansplaining a small way again.

Brian Upton (13:25):
mansplaining is a man slowly explaining things to
you. It's the words combinedtogether states. All right. You
guys. Ready to get a littlebreak? Here we go. If you had to
name the craziest thing you didin your youth, what would it be?

(13:45):
And we're very honest here onthe broken tiles, podcasts. And
we'll know snippers. So if youhad to name the craziest thing
you ever did in your youth, whatwould it be? Okay, you can go
first. Are you ready? I'm tryingto think I'm gonna be that

Bailey Upton (14:06):
crazy. I mean, we just spent in Watertown. spent
most of our childhood is in abasement.

Stacey Upton (14:16):
But that sounds horrible. Random field. Please
explain that further.

Brian Upton (14:21):
Did you just tell her or worldwide audience that
were your parents were in thebasement? I think you said
locked in a basement.

Aynsley Upton (14:31):
Alone locked in a base.

Brian Upton (14:32):
Does anybody have one that jumps at them right
now? Because I can throw one outsee me have you go ahead. I'll
give you you guys have heard somany of my stories, but I'm
taking this one to heart youth.
I don't consider high schoolyouth in my context, old as dirt
as I am. But the quickest storyI can get to without going crazy
is in my fifth grade year. Mybest friend's name was Paul wind

(14:55):
dust, and he lived close to usin SoCal.

Stacey Upton (14:59):
Me We're going to not use names of an investment
from

Brian Upton (15:03):
40 years ago, Paul, I love you, by the way, didn't
didn't do anything. It wasn'tlike a felony. He actually, he
was completely innocent in this.
His mom and dad, I'd have dinnerover there all the time or lunch
after school, and we have like ahalf day school. And I went home
with the wind gusts. And theysaid that they were going to go
to San Francisco, and that theyneeded to drop me off before

(15:24):
they went unless I wanted to gowith them. And I said, I'd love
to go with you. He said, Well,you got to call your mom and dad
and see if it's okay. So whenthe other room and I shut the
door, and I didn't call my mom.
And I went to San Francisco, andwe went up there we had dinner.
We had no thing. No cell phones,oh man. No communication. Oh my

(15:48):
god gone and the ramificationsof that. This was still in the
days where my dad would right onthe edge of it. But my dad was a
policeman. And when I gotspanked, he would use his police
belt. You want to talk aboutbeing locked in a basement. That
would be a crazy story from myyouth that was just so ballsy.
So just just so but a classickid thing to do within hours in

(16:11):
San Francisco with nopermission, but those parents
that a permission. Everybodythought it was great. So there's
mine. Who's up. Ken, did youhave one? Um,

Kenzi Schissler (16:23):
I don't know. I mean, I think maybe at the time,
it didn't seem so crazy. Butlooking back on it now it seems
wild. Just the idea of like,sneaking out a window and
driving to a party in the middleof nowhere. My parents have
absolutely no idea that I'm evengone. That counts. I think

(16:45):
that's it. I would never even dothat now drive to a field in the
middle of nowhere. It's sofunny.

Bailey Upton (16:53):
Yeah, I guess my mind would be similar enough to
that I never snuck out growingup, but I would just be at
Austin's and we would leave fromthere. But again, I don't know.
I mean, it's just tough. I kindof felt like me and my friends.
We just stayed at home.

Brian Upton (17:10):
It's very true. I

Bailey Upton (17:11):
think of specific things we enjoyed playing wiffle
ball and video games.

Stacey Upton (17:19):
I remember one time you came home with a police
officer.

Aynsley Upton (17:22):
Oh, yeah. I mean, oh, yeah.

Bailey Upton (17:25):
I mean, that's good. And I was just driving
without a license. Well, I hadmy license. In New York, you
couldn't drive past 10 o'clockor whatever the time it was.

Stacey Upton (17:38):
It was very late.
And you were going fast. Yeah.

Brian Upton (17:42):
Question. Next question was, what was the
craziest thing you did? Not thecraziest thing you got caught?
Yeah. A distinction there?

Bailey Upton (17:51):
Yeah. I mean, it's an Kinsey made a good point when
you look at it. Now, it seemsinsane. But even just like the
quarry parties we would go toDid you ever do that? Like that
forgot about danger. That wasjust that is super dangerous. I
guess it's yeah, it's a thingthat we didn't think about at
all. As a kid for

Stacey Upton (18:09):
a party.

Bailey Upton (18:10):
Yeah. So, guy, you would know from our show in high
school that you coached througha bunch of parties in a quarry
that hands down, right? Yeah.
And we just be at the bottom ofit partying. And it's like a
super sketchy thing when youreally think about it, but it's
just super cool in high school.
I guess that's a good

Brian Upton (18:29):
quarry. Yeah, the thing is the hardest like that
is is we used to talk aboutbecause yeah, we were the thing
with coaching in that town, itwas so small, we were generally
90% of where were all the kidswere all the time at one point.
And it was within a realm ofreason of what you guys were
doing. But you make a good pointabout it. The difference between
the parties were thrown in thebottom of the quarry. But then

(18:50):
you had alcohol and stimulantsand alternate that there's also
a way to get up to the top ofthat. Yep. And that's the thing
about the disconnect betweenlike, that's where the danger
comes. It's not where the partywas supposed to be. No, it's who
might wander up to the top ofthat 80 foot face internet.

Bailey Upton (19:07):
Of course, there's all sorts of Link equipment and
stuff around as well. Like it's

Brian Upton (19:11):
the other one that makes me think before Stace goes
is that six crazy stories thatlike the craziest thing I did is
also most of us have that storyof when we snuck away and like
had sex for the first time too,because that in your mind is
crazy. It's a crazy town thingyou just did. Because it's this
fundamental moment. It'ssomething that you did that if

(19:33):
course you're going to keep itfrom everybody you're going to
and so that one rings in my headis another seminal moment that
most everybody I know they don'tcome rocking that news out to
their parents the next day.
Guess what happened last night?

Stacey Upton (19:48):
Or several years later, we don't need to hear
that. Yeah.

Brian Upton (19:52):
We don't we don't we we do or don't I could care
less. You know, as far as thatgoes. I think we had an idea I
was only wrong on one kid. I wasjust, I was just off by 12
months, which kid. Ainsley anywe don't know. That's just more
fodder. But that's one that Ithink about as far as like

(20:13):
Unifor for the broader podcast.
Yeah, exactly. Stacy

Stacey Upton (20:20):
does easily have an answer for this. Oh, yeah.

Aynsley Upton (20:24):
Again, it's kind of similar to what Bailey in the
way he said it thinking back onit. It's something I would never
do especially like in the worldwe live in now. Like, it's just
dumb. And it's not safe. Butthere was one specific night,
and I was at a certain beachwith cottages. Good job so far.

(20:48):
And everyone knows what happensat that beach with the cottages.
But there was one night where wejust left we, we I don't think
we necessarily snuck out becausenobody actually cared. They just
knew we would be right there.
But we completely left. We tookthe golf cart down to the end of

(21:10):
the road. And we just walked andbroken to farm houses and was
like, rolling on the hay bales.
And we walked around that townuntil the sun came up. And I
think we got coffee that like Idon't know, we literally stayed
out from midnight to 8am camehome and no one knew anything.

(21:36):
And we were definitely a littlealtered.

Brian Upton (21:42):
There was some that was some that was some grown ass
adult and party and right thereended up like partying to have
breakfast in Washington. So thatwas

Aynsley Upton (21:53):
the I think we came in and just poured some
cereal and then went to sleepright out in the sun and

Brian Upton (21:59):
to hide the identity of everybody that
matters and keep this thingreal. We'll just call that going
forward. So no one knows. We'llcall it smart, just speech.

Aynsley Upton (22:08):
More just niche.

Brian Upton (22:10):
It's like a Harry Potter space.

Stacey Upton (22:14):
I didn't go yet.
I'm trying to decide which storyto tell. I wasn't that crazy.
But for me, it was crazy. Onething that I actually did
several times in my youth beforeI was fully a teenager, no
snips. I had a neighbor. I livedin the mountains in Colorado,

(22:35):
and my neighbor was my same age.
He and I were really goodfriends and we loved to hike.
And so he would come to my doorin the middle of the night. Tap
at it. I would slide open thedoor climb out, and we'd hike in
the mountains in the middle ofthe night. Oh my God, my dumb.

(22:57):
Yeah, I realized that now but itwas so there was one time. One
time I got scared was we foundit was like a rock ledge. And
underneath it there was thislittle opening kind of like a
cave, but it didn't go back veryfar. And there was a potbelly
stove and a sleeping bag inthere. And I was like, Oh, no.

(23:18):
There could be some strangeraround watching us. Oh, and
another time that was alsoscary. We found a house that was
being built. And so we were kindof exploring it. And then there
was another house like rightbehind it. And we heard someone
come out and he shot a shotgunin the air because he could hear
somebody prowling around. Imean, he could have thought we

(23:39):
were a bear. If there were bearsthere again, why were we doing?
So but those were exciting timesand so much fun. Yeah, it sounds
like it. That's where I got mylove of hiking. Yep.

Brian Upton (23:53):
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Stacey Upton (24:00):
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Brian Upton (24:02):
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Brian Upton (25:58):
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Stacey Upton (26:04):
awesome. I can't believe it did. You kind of
boggles my mind. And then

Brian Upton (26:08):
here's a couple of the funnest cities I saw this
week on our analytics. How aboutCape Town?

Stacey Upton (26:17):
Why?

Brian Upton (26:20):
I don't understand what part of global phenomenon
you're not getting in this.

Stacey Upton (26:25):
I don't understand it, but I'm really excited by
it. Folsom California. Do youknow what's there? That's a
prison isn't that's a prison?

Brian Upton (26:34):
I think that's where somebody might get
arrested is that's a serialkiller. I'm not shitting you
next podcast

Stacey Upton (26:43):
that's a good topic to cover some time.

Brian Upton (26:44):
It is because that is so that's juicy right there
that I just dropped in the eightsecond thing that we have a
listener? Possibly actually I'mgonna say this to Him. Shout out
to you. That's a serial killerthat my dad caught.

Stacey Upton (26:59):
We don't know that for certain that's a city. Also.
It's only a prison. City prisonis amazing.

Brian Upton (27:15):
Like, right now my kids are looking at me with it's
when you're famous Stacy. Isthis really awkward the first
time you feel your fame? And yousee the look in your kid's eyes
of I don't know. Is it wonder?

Stacey Upton (27:28):
I think you're misinterpreting all for
questioning. Maybe disdain.
Anyway, no comment. Okay, nowwe're on to question number

(27:49):
three, which is read closest. Sothis I chose because we can each
answer individually. Or you canask someone to answer for you if
you choose. What is preventingme from becoming the person I
want to be?

Bailey Upton (28:11):
This is prevented?

Brian Upton (28:14):
I can Is there any way to translate that? snips?
Answer the question that shesent us the positive cheek she
had enough time to contemplateit. snips answered that question

Kenzi Schissler (28:26):
saying the lack of treats,

Brian Upton (28:29):
treats and some goddamn peace and quiet. Is
anybody ready? Right off thebat.

Bailey Upton (28:38):
He read the question one more time.

Stacey Upton (28:41):
What is preventing me from becoming the person I
want to be?

Brian Upton (28:46):
I can answer well, everybody's thinking. For me,
it's that we talk about it inour family states I talk about
it all the time is I'm on ajourney. Like it's like trying
to like be a little bit. It's ait always comes down to me as

(29:06):
far as like empathy. Like, Ifeel like it's a path that we
talk about all the time thatlike, you know, engaging people
creates empathy. Empathy is apath to understanding. And I'm
not close. I mean, I'm 54 yearsold, and I know I try I try hard
but I think for me, the person Isee myself being is like, you

(29:29):
know, I hope I have more time onthe planet because I'm not there
yet at 54 and so that questionfor me the answer to it is is
that I want to keep playing thatempathy game because we I think
we even talked about it atdinner the other night is we
were such a position this table.
We're in such a position of it'sa canned word right now but

(29:53):
privilege that it's a it's aharder game to fight from a
position of privilege not whammynot only For me, but it is a
harder game to fight to get to aproper level of empathy when you
are coming from this spot, sothat to me is the that's the
it's a block for me, not anoverall block, but it's the
challenge for me.

Stacey Upton (30:17):
That's a good answer. I want to

Brian Upton (30:21):
help you, you know, that I only this is there, every
time I talk, I, I bring this in.
Because it would kill the wholepodcast if every time I just let
the audience go. We wouldn'thave a podcast. Anybody else
ready? Um, yeah, I

Bailey Upton (30:42):
can go. I'd say.
For me right now, it's the samething for the past few years of
it kind of in decisiveness topick a lane for my future, I've
just, I have always kind ofstruggled to justify my time
spending my time doing things Idon't want to do to a point

(31:03):
where I'd become fall intomassive depression, when I'm
spending most of my time doingthings I don't want to do. And
the thing they don't want to domost of time is work. With just
talk, I mean, you got to workdown, you can't get around that.
So that's obviously my plan. Myhope is to find something that I
can be passionate about anddirect my time and effort into

(31:26):
so that I don't feel like thatwhen I'm spending most of my
time.

Stacey Upton (31:33):
What do you think, would have to happen for you to
fall into that?

Bailey Upton (31:41):
It's just tough.
I'd have to find something I'mpassionate about something that
I'd want to commit my life todoing, I suppose, is just tough.
I mean, it's not it's notnothing really that's

Brian Upton (31:55):
I don't think it's a huge thing. I think we we
pause in the podcast every onceawhile to make it broader.
Sometimes it feels like thatquestions about you about us.
And I think the broader subjectis, sometimes what I like to do
is look at other practicalthings that I can model. And I
think sometimes the end issomething that most all of us

(32:18):
want, we all want the end partof it, but the fundamentals of
it are the part that you that wehave to put in place to get to
the end that can be retirementplanning that can be what your
girlfriend's going through rightnow with PA school, is that the
the pressure we found out thisweek can be so great at certain

(32:39):
times during that, like withKenzie is is that but that is
the part that you have noticedhave to like put blinders on and
do the fundamental parts andthen almost guaranteed, you
know, he's founded at Metro intheater that the head down
grinder part pays off. And sothat's just more broader advice.
It's not Bailey so much. It'sjust like, we all struggle with

(33:01):
that part where we want that insatisfaction so fast that we
sometimes don't even get startedon the first part of it. Right.
Okay.

Aynsley Upton (33:09):
But it's also I think, where you and I are
similar. It's recreating, it'srecreating the nine to five, for
what works for you, right,because you and I have found out
pretty quick, that is not whatwe're going to do, like what's
not going to do that. And weliterally can't do it. No matter
how good the money is. We don't

Bailey Upton (33:27):
survive if I'm not happy. Exactly. I just won't do
that. Yep, term. Exactly.

Aynsley Upton (33:31):
And like, I just got lucky that I found it in
theater, you know, and it's justyou and me are recreating what
that looks like. That's a greatway to put it. Because we could
not survive. Yes.

Stacey Upton (33:44):
Yeah. I think that can be said for a lot of people.
This reminds me of James clear,who's an author. And he I can't
remember the name of his bookright now. It'll come to me, but
it's an excellent book aboutbehavior change. And one one
thing I really took away fromit, that's so important is we

(34:05):
have a goal. And there may belike, this question is asking
you the becoming the person Iwant to be? Well do you know,
first of all what that personyou want to be is? And then the
next step is, you know, onceyou've defined that, or defined
it enough, figuring out okay,well, what are the small steps
I'm going to do to get there?
And that's the part that becomesyour process. And you actually

(34:28):
have to enjoy the process foryou to get anywhere and it's
really the process. That's thekey. You know, you can think
about that in terms of any kindof behavior change you want to
make, say you wanted to eat morehealthfully or get more physical
activity, whatever it might be,you know, say somebody's goal is
oh, he snippers somebody's goalis oh, I want to you know,

(34:52):
manage my weight. So how are yougoing to do that? Okay, so I'm
going to eat healthy. I'm goingto get more exercise As well, if
both of those things aredrudgery to you, that process is
no fun. So maybe instead, it'slike, oh, I'm going to take, I'm
going to go dancing three nightsa week, because I love that. And
I'm just going to make sure Ieat more vegetables two days a

(35:12):
week, you know, whatever. Thatis something that's so doable,
but it is a process that youactually enjoy. And that's
really what it comes down to.
Yep, that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah. Can you read the questionagain? Yes. What is preventing
me from becoming the person Iwant to be?

Aynsley Upton (35:35):
I can go go for something, a very common theme
in my life is that I don'treally adapt to change well. And
so I think over the last year,I've kind of figured out that
the person I want to be issomeone who is adaptive to
change. And what's getting in myway is honestly, just myself,

(35:57):
I've dealt with anxiety anddepression for a really long
time. And it keeps me a littlelike, like, a little locked in
place sometimes. But I'm tryingto work through that. And I'm
trying to accept that part ofmyself instead of trying to
completely get it out. Becausethe reality is, I can get as

(36:19):
much help as I want, but it willbe there. i The point is to
learn how to take care of ittake care of myself. And I think
that's the biggest thingstanding in my way of being
someone who will be in aposition to constantly change. I
don't think I'm ever going toreach a goal of this is who I

(36:42):
want to be, I'm going to reachit and never move again. Because
that's just not realistic. Sowhat's getting in my way of
being who I want to be, is beingable to take care of myself
enough so that when the timecomes to change, I'm ready to
change, right? Yeah, I

Brian Upton (37:02):
think I'll jump in again on that. It's just so
helpful. That's introspective,and it's so helpful to maybe
someone listening, both ofthese, all of these answers, I
think can be helpful in a wayof, we're all going through this
in some increments, and we feelso alone sometimes, but but the

(37:22):
reality of it is, when you sayit out loud, you realize, oh,
shit, we're all going throughdifferent Yeah, in what you're
going through, I'm not goingthrough right now. But I have a
time in my life. I'm like, thatwas me that you just said, that
was me. I couldn't come up withthe age right now. But there's a
window of time where that wasme. And you were me. And
everybody is kind of like, it'swhat I like about it.

Kenzi Schissler (37:45):
For me, it's maybe a little bit of a cop out
response, because I think anyonecould say this, but I think it's
a lack of time. I feel like LikeBrian said, I am in PA school
right now, which takes up a lotof my time and energy. So I
don't have as much time as Iwant to work on self development

(38:06):
and sort of time to betterinvest in my relationships the
way that I really want to beable to. But I think that I can
definitely find time. I thinkthat's something that even
though we all think we're sobusy, I think carving out time

(38:27):
for those things to be theperson you want to be for me
that's, you know, someone who isstable and mentally strong, and
who is really giving inrelationships, and is really
present in relationships. That'ssomeone I want to be and I think

(38:48):
I can definitely find the timeto do that. It's just hard
sometimes.

Stacey Upton (38:53):
You're also in a situation that does require a
lot of you, but it's temporary.

Kenzi Schissler (38:58):
Yeah, it is.

Aynsley Upton (38:59):
It also requires all of those things. Yeah. So
it's good to know, it's alreadya part of you.

Stacey Upton (39:05):
That's true.
That's true. You know, you havethe capacity for it. Yeah, I do.
Okay, do I any dancer the firstthing that came to my mind when
I read this was fear. I mean,fear of all kinds of things,
fear of being vulnerable, fearof putting myself out there. You

(39:29):
know, I think I'm well I know Iam closer to the person I want
to be now than I ever have beenbecause I have been able to
overcome a lot of fear. I was asuper shy kid growing up. I was
somebody who never spoke mymind. I didn't feel like I had

(39:49):
value. So why would anybody wantto hear what I had to say? Took
a long time for me to overcomethat. And in some ways that's I
think it was brought up beforethat's still the person I am.
It's just a matter of fightingthrough it and growing and
moving into this next. I don'tknow the person I'm becoming I

(40:11):
guess, but fear is probably thecrux of you know, any barrier.
If you think about it if you getreally granular with it. That's
what it is for me.

Brian Upton (40:24):
You will run up into a commercial break so we'll
I think we'll finish with like asoft question at the end and
then we'll play the game becausedid we get through you got
through the Let's get closerpart. Yeah, nice. We did so we
got to pay bills. Were you guyslaughing? I didn't realize the
podcast was

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and a half minutes.
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Kenzi Schissler (40:56):
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Stacey Upton (41:14):
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Brian Upton (41:20):
I take that part back. You already didn't tell.
The one I wanted hold on Stacy.

Stacey Upton (41:29):
Brian is searching his book for another question.

Brian Upton (41:34):
What's that little simple one is squared. Oh yeah.
It's f squared. It's by EvelynMacFarlane and James say, well,
it's just a fun little book. Weactually got three of them.
There's one for couples, onegeneral, and I think one a
little deeper. So I bring itinto kind of simple one to go
out. Because we're really goodon time. We're doing great.
Awesome. If you could retake onecourse in high school, what

(41:57):
would it be?
Well, take your time you guysare kind of blown away by the

(42:19):
overall production value. Thispodcast I think is right now.
Like that's the stunned silenceon such a dang simple question.
I'll tell you what, I didn'tknow I'd have to kill time on
that.

Kenzi Schissler (42:31):
I have an answer. And it might not be the
one you're expecting. Whoa. Iwould want to retake my art
classes. Just how fun is it tohave the access to supplies and
sort of unlimited, like, setaside time each week to do art

(42:51):
and just find ways to expressyourself and in the moment? I
couldn't have cared less

Brian Upton (42:56):
where you take it with what you know now. Yes,
yeah.

Aynsley Upton (42:58):
I would love the

Kenzi Schissler (42:59):
opportunity to spend you know, whatever, two
hours a week just in an art roomwith unlimited supplies. Just do
it.

Brian Upton (43:06):
I love it. Mine is easy. And it's simple work
related in California relatedSpanish. Easy, easy, easy and
pay attention. I wouldn't. Iwouldn't put the answers on the
bill of my blog I had so manydifferent ways to cheat on the
back of the desk in front of meon the top my hat.

Kenzi Schissler (43:29):
Your water.

Brian Upton (43:30):
Oh with it. Oh.
See, it's a generation's. It'sonly you

Aynsley Upton (43:38):
the folding mind button.

Stacey Upton (43:40):
I never occurred to me that cheap. Wow.

Aynsley Upton (43:44):
You didn't need to

Brian Upton (43:46):
people like you and me that make us cheat. Sorry.
Alright, who hasn't answered?
Um,

Bailey Upton (43:55):
I definitely would have loved it. Not retaken. With
BOCES they stopped making metake math, science and history
classes. So I missed out on abunch of stuff I wish I had
taken in high school that youwould think would have been to
fourth gen ed, you have to takethis class but chemistry. I

(44:16):
mean, what's after, what are yousupposed to take after geometry?
Trade? I never got Yeah. I feellike yeah, it was awesome at the
time, and I love BOCES. But now,at this point, not doing graphic
design and not having taken alot of high school classes.
There's a bunch of

Aynsley Upton (44:36):
Exactly. I'm really glad you said that.
Because I was thinking the samethings like math history. Yes.
But then again, I if I were toretake them in the same
environment that we do,

Brian Upton (44:49):
no, no, that's right. And I can seize on to the
question like retake it withwhat you know. Now for the
purpose of this question forfun. Exactly.

Aynsley Upton (44:57):
Yeah, I'm saying like, like science and math. I
see i No matter where I went, Idon't think it would have made a
difference in my life. Right,right. It's not my thing. Now I
know that, but I think I'msimilar to Dad's, I would retake
French and immerse yourself likecompletely, completely immerse
myself. Thank

Brian Upton (45:17):
them for doing Yeah, with back to 1984. And
Toby, who was our teacher camein with all of his experience.
He wanted to teach Spanish I hadno interest. I would worship Him
right now, if I knew now belike, I'm going to be an A
student here. Yep.

Aynsley Upton (45:30):
Yep. And I think, like thinking about it, I wish I
had taken Spanish just to haveit's better than taking French.
But being able to speak fluentFrench today would have been
really cool. Stace.

Stacey Upton (45:43):
This is hard for me, because I enjoyed a lot of
the classes that I took, I wasnot great at math. But I don't
know that I'd want to retake itbecause I had to retake it in
college. So I learned more thanmaybe I would retake my jazz
band class. Because I was sofearful of doing solos, I could

(46:06):
do a great solo in my bedroom bymyself. But in the class it was
I just was so shy. But knowingwhat I know now and and how I am
now I had a lot more confidencethan I did back then. I think
that's what it was. That'sawesome.

Brian Upton (46:18):
band nerd. So you live your whole life. You were a
band nerd. And then you would goyour whole life with everything.
You don't go back.

Stacey Upton (46:28):
Yes. I love it with a little less nerdiness

Brian Upton (46:35):
All right, we're gonna play the blame game on the
way out so we don't kill toomuch time and then we never know
where we're coming in. But thenI think we'll go with the hosts
you guys come up with a numberbetween one and 15 and we'll
we'll Oh Who is it? Wait,this this one doesn't count.
They just kind of you. This isnot the game. Is it? Matt
Miller.

(46:56):
Okay, was it seven this summer Ican't look now, don't process
it. It's just a vote. We'lllisten to it for a little bit.

(47:17):
And then we'll Don't Don't Don'ttalk get don't talk within your
vote one of one of the family.
It could be three. You can alsothe blend. Spotify blend also
can be if you're one of thethree you're in you don't have
to get all three like if you saysomebody's name and it's three
people on it. You you're on theboard. So mom's never won the
game.

Stacey Upton (47:40):
This time I found I did once again. I'm sorry.
You're one

Brian Upton (47:43):
of the three until until

Aynsley Upton (47:44):
mom guessed it once right and then you changed
your mind.

Brian Upton (47:48):
That's controversial. We'll come back
to the next podcast easily.
Who's your guest Taylor? Yeah, Iwas Taylor because it sounds
like he's getting filthy again.

Stacey Upton (47:59):
Taylor. Yep. It's Taylor on YouTube. The song is
by Kay flay. What's it called?

Brian Upton (48:13):
Taylor and Bailey everybody's on the board for
that one right.

Stacey Upton (48:20):
What's the song called?

Brian Upton (48:21):
This is four letter words by K play.

Stacey Upton (48:25):
That's why I thought it was Taylor. Yeah.

Brian Upton (48:27):
Kinda like it

Kenzi Schissler (48:28):
just for the night. I want to be mean our big
fans. Yeah. For that it

Brian Upton (48:34):
was alright. It's It's the second time I think
we're sort of on a we didn'ttrail out with Taylor's filthy
one that was just a that wouldjust popped out you are Yeah,
this one's gonna bring us allthe way out. We've got to get to
the Salvador Dali museum. We gottickets in about like, four
minutes.

Stacey Upton (48:54):
We must go love you guys know it's so fun. Love
you. Hi everybody out there.

Aynsley Upton (49:05):
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