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Brian Upton (00:11):
This is the broken
tiles Podcast.
started the whole thing withouttelling you. Yeah, now, I was in
the middle of something, butthat's okay. I'm here.
How are you?
Stacey Upton (00:31):
Good. It's been a
very busy week. But it's been
good.
Brian Upton (00:39):
Let's
do a quick review of
we did a podcast last week fromFlorida. That's right.
Stacey Upton (00:50):
Why don't we do a
little quick review of that
trip?
Unknown (00:54):
Oh, well, there were so
many adventures we did.
Stacey Upton (00:59):
It was beautiful.
We've been to Florida before,but not that area. No. And I
think we did a podcast in themiddle of some of the
adventures. I think it washalfway through. And we had out
that that point, experienced theboat trip out to egg monkey. And
we had gone to St. Pete pear fordinner. And I think that's when
we did the podcast with thekids. We had that experience.
(01:20):
But we still had a lot of funthings to do. And I think we
became big fans of that area wedid. Kind of like when we retire
is that might that might bewhere we go. Yeah, I've always
had it in that.
Brian Upton (01:38):
The so obvious
category of life, like you
retired, you move to Florida.
But watching Go ahead.
Unknown (01:46):
I was just gonna say
yeah, now I get it. It seemed
like a
Brian Upton (01:51):
you know, just the
tired story. But I, I'm on
board. But when you're watchingthat sunset, over the Gulf of
Mexico at Pasic, real beach witha rum and soda, I think you had
staying on diet a little bit. Iwent for the full Roman Diet
Coke and broke off. There was itwas minor.
(02:17):
And it was a vacation. It wasand we always give ourselves a
little bit of latitude on that,you know, when we it's well,
one, it's almost impossible tostay on point when you're
traveling like that. And that'svery true. But overall, I think
the trip was to a part of thecountry we'd never been not that
we hadn't been to Florida. Butwe've done the eastern side, the
(02:39):
classic sort of, I've been toLauderdale for spring break back
in the day. We taken the familydown there to Disney World, once
on our own. And then once withthe past goals, I think the
family right, that was a greattrip. Actually. It was a lot of
fun. Yeah. And forever ago.
Yeah.
Unknown (02:57):
Does keep moving. We
leave
Brian Upton (02:59):
as fans of that
area. And I think we'll talk
about it maybe a little bit morelater in the podcast. You know,
some of the specifics of placeswe went and things that we
didn't maybe some smallrecommendations, or not depends
on how fast the game goes. Iguess that's true. Yeah. So
update on the kind of wherewe're at with the podcast right
(03:24):
now. Rolling Along. This will beepisode seven. I think that's
right, Episode Seven, we, thisone will put us over 1000
downloads. And that's a bignumber. It's a big number. And I
think like you talked about lastweek, probably one we can drift
away. I think we're excited kindof how quick it got there. But
(03:46):
it's just got its own littlekind of groove right now. And
it's stretching out. And I thinkwe're starting to get a little
diversity as far as where it'sbeing played. We'll jump back in
every once in a while and kindof update some of the unique
cities as I need time anyways toinvestigate the Folsom prison
situation.
Stacey Upton (04:05):
Well, I think this
is a nice opportunity to just
say thank you to people that arelistening and maybe sharing with
other people they know becauseI'm I for 1am a bit taken aback
by the fact that so many peoplehave downloaded and it's been
kind of fun to watch.
Brian Upton (04:25):
And I think the
next step we want to take is on
your recommendation. I'm goingto bust open a Instagram page,
we already have a Twitteraccount for the broken tiles
podcast. I think what we want todo is make it a little bit
easier for people to connectshare when some of these games
that we're giving away ratherthan even email us you know, I
think that you had the idea whenwe were traveling like let's
(04:46):
just open up a couple of thosesocials. And then the ask is a
little bit simpler to go tobroken tiles on Instagram, and
Twitter or Twitter. The andbasically just like and share it
from there and then you're inour universe. or we can draw
winners for the prizes fromsocial media more than having
that extra step of dropping anemail.
Unknown (05:06):
Yeah. And then we could
just direct message somebody.
Can you do that on Twitter? Idon't use Twitter.
Stacey Upton (05:13):
Yeah, there's
messaging, all the All of that's
very that that part is, onceyou're in that universe, it's
very easy to basically kind ofeither DM them or ask them that
they won the game, and then canopen up the conversation, and
then we can get theirinformation for intelligent
change to get the game out. Andwe'll be sending out our seventh
prize this week. And that justkind of keeps moving along.
(05:33):
Okay, so I think we've been in agroove lately. I think the pace
of it's been much better and so.
Unknown (05:46):
All right, our first
question of this podcast. Again,
we're using our intelligentchange. Let's get closer game,
the green level, which is close.
The question is, what is ourstrongest common value? And how
does it connect us?
Brian Upton (06:07):
It's an our
question. Yeah.
Unknown (06:10):
And so to make this
slightly easier, I did pull up a
list of values, core values. Soyou know, if you had a little
trouble trying to pin somethingdown here, you
Stacey Upton (06:23):
likely will and I
think, take a second. And I
don't think we circled back toit last week, but we had the
couple of weeks before. I justthink it's the dip back into us
trying to expand these directquestions to each other. Talk a
little bit about as we try toexpand it into the universe of
(06:45):
what the specific you arequestions could mean in a
relationship.
Unknown (06:51):
Right. So it's, I think
it can be helpful to really get
a sense of what a common valueis within a couple, or a family
or, you know, whatever. Maybeeven a friendship, whatever
relationship it is you're tryingto focus on, because it helps
you find common ground. And whentimes are challenging, and also
(07:15):
in the good times as well.
Stacey Upton (07:17):
Do you think that
a question like this repeat the
question to me again,
Unknown (07:21):
what is our strongest
common value?
Stacey Upton (07:25):
Before I even
answer in probably killing some
time here? Because it's a bigquestion. I wonder also, if we
drift away from each other, inrelationships, not, we always
say not asking these questions,but not kind of being open to
(07:48):
these type of doors that youdon't open in relationships. Or
maybe you do early in the datingphase, not saying this. No one
would phrase a question likethis in the first date. But you
are a lot of times in the earlypart of the relationship much
more eager to get out what makessomebody tick, what are they all
about? I think it drifts away.
Unknown (08:10):
Yeah, you may be right,
unless you're actively working
to not allow that to drift away.
Stacey Upton (08:21):
Right. And I think
when I say that, I think of the
times where we have beendisconnected and we're apart, we
can probably narrow it down tohave we gotten away from caring
about that.
Unknown (08:36):
Oh, that could very
well be. And it also could be
that maybe there are new valuesat play in one's life during
different seasons of one's life.
You know, for a family withkids, when you're in those
years, where it's really agrind. Getting the kids out the
(08:59):
door to school and staying ontop of all of their needs, and
maybe working. And there's justso much going on. It's like a
marathon. And when you're inthat kind of a grind. It is very
easy to become disconnected andyour values may shift because
(09:20):
right now, well, maybe adventurewas a value early on, right? We
don't have time for adventureright now because we are just
focusing on getting the kidsthrough school. That's an
example of how that might shift
Stacey Upton (09:35):
we're seeing so
far away from the question right
now, but it makes me think of aconversation I had with Greg,
who's my boss, and we talk a lotof times about we're in such
different stages. Our kids are3020 God thinks 26 and 2425. And
(09:56):
we've mentioned quite a fewtimes that It doesn't end. But
what you do get is you do get akind of a reconciliation and a
reconnect with your significantother. When time allows it.
We're not chasing them topractice, we're not getting food
on the way home. A lot of timesI'll give Greg advice. And it's
(10:17):
kind of bullshit, because I'lleven stopped myself in the
middle of our conversationgoing, not for now,
yeah, this doesn't work for you.
In this mode,
Brian Upton (10:24):
I talked about the
diet and the shit we're doing.
And he looks at me like I'm outof my mind. And then I and then
I realized, there is no time.
And I realized, they immediatelyclicked to the thought of a game
ending at 845. And we're inSyracuse, and we've got an hour
and 20 minute hour and 15 minutedrive. And there's bags and
Wendy's in the car, and we'reeating Taco Bell, or Taco Bell,
or whatever served the purposeon the way back. And so my
(10:46):
advice on the other side, that'svery, that's kind of really in
the the, the, the macro, kindof, but you know what I'm
talking about that, I think thatif you're in it for the long
haul of the game, that time doescome back to you sort of that
lingering time when you're firstmeeting somebody, you're in the
(11:07):
shitshow, of raising the kidsfor a while. And some of the
depths of the relationship, dotake a little bit of a backseat,
because of the honest to Godlike just the schedule.
Unknown (11:22):
Yeah. And I was just
thinking about, you know, what
about relationships where theydon't have kids, I think there
still are times when the focusisn't necessarily on each other
as it was in the beginning.
Because life takes a hold. Andwe allow things to sort of get
away from us for a while. Butthat's why I love questions like
this, because it can, it bringsyou back to Oh, yeah. Why are
(11:46):
why are we in this relationshiptogether? Again, what are the
things that are important to us?
How do we connect
Brian Upton (11:55):
in you, I could not
agree with you more, it's
actually a really good point.
And I think it's fair to say,we're always dealing from our
perspective. But to be honestwith you, the same elements of
distraction apply to people withor without kids, as far as the
grind of a job, maybeaccumulating debt, you know,
(12:15):
mortgages, things, whatever itmay be, all of those things have
the tendency to assail, you'rekind of like, the selfish
connection you want to have withthat person that you like. So
that was an overwhelming list onyour phone. It just died. But I
did see one that keyed me to theother ones, the one that jumped
out at me from the list as faras the cheat code is humor. And
(12:37):
if that's one I take that. Theother one I think of is we
talked about on the podcast andin life is empathy. Would that
count?
Unknown (12:49):
Sure. That's a value, I
think, I think that's a strong
value we both have in common.
Brian Upton (12:55):
And then the last
one, I guess I'm talking for
myself, I'm trying to think thequestion was,
Unknown (12:59):
are what is our
strongest common value? Oh,
Brian Upton (13:03):
well, probably not
humor. Empathy is way up there,
if that is one, and I think theother one we just talked about
this today, as a relates to awork situation that I was in and
one last week that brings upsort of the dregs of you know,
sometimes interactions, not justat work, but in in public or
(13:26):
whatever. Sort of diminish yourfaith in humanity, it can
happen. It can happen at acoffee house can happen at work,
it can happen it sure whereverit is, but I think the I think
if people if authen TriCity wasa choice, I think we both value
that in somebody else, if that'sa choice. If that word is a
(13:48):
choice, that would be an hour.
Sure
Unknown (13:50):
that's a value. I like
that. Those are not ones I had
thought of, but they definitelyare common values far as the one
that came to my mind. And Ithink connectedness is what
interesting. Yeah, likeconnection being connected to
(14:11):
each other in some way. We thatseems like it's a common strong
value for us.
Brian Upton (14:18):
And I liked it that
direction, because I think this
question is sort of a pivot fromthe me i My perspective, my
answer is this and then webranch out to what it is. I
think it very well might be thefirst our question that this
(14:39):
game has asked.
Unknown (14:40):
Well, there's a second
part to this. Okay. How does it
connect us?
Brian Upton (14:46):
Probably gets into
the system sphere of the
obvious, you know, the ones webrought up at least don't don't
confuse me too much. How does itconnect us? Humor breaks down
barriers. alleviates See, someof the takes the air out of the
pressure of a day life, whateverit may be authenticity, just I
(15:11):
don't know how much you need todescribe how important that core
value or achievement is. Becauseit makes everything else easier.
Unknown (15:23):
Yeah, you're not
putting up a pretense and
creating something that doesn'texist, you just are as you are,
Brian Upton (15:29):
right? And I
really, I imagine if you know
me, you can feel it in the room,if, if I feel authenticity,
there's it's almost electric.
Like, I think you would be ableto feel that I feel chemistry
with people that are authentic.
And I feel like I don't need tosay it. Go ahead. You're itchin.
Unknown (15:48):
I am. So we bring this
up a lot. There was a friend of
yours visiting who broughtanother friend once we just
talked about this. Maybe eventoday. I think his name was
Jesse. And you guys were havinga conversation. And use I don't
even remember what theconversation was about. You said
(16:09):
something. And he said, Oh, I'msorry. Can you say that? Again?
I was actually thinking aboutwhat I was going to say next.
And I Oh, that was interesting.
Sorry about that out. And Ididn't hear you is what he said.
That was authentic. He wasallowing himself to be very
humble in that moment and say,Oh, hey, I'm not paying
(16:29):
attention. How often does thathappen? And that endeared him to
me. I thought that was amazing.
It
Stacey Upton (16:36):
endeared him to
you. It, it took the very
intense conversations we werehaving. And it took the edge off
of some of the conversations wewere having in our living room
about it. And it's a story thatwe don't go much more than six
months, 12 months withoutbringing up in a conversation or
(16:56):
talking about it in some form,because it's something that we
all struggle with. Yes. Can yousay what you said again, I
wasn't listening, because I wasthinking about what I was going
to say next. I think I remembersaying like, dude, thank you.
You did we're saying thatbecause it's going to slow me
down because I do that shit allthe time. You know, less and
(17:18):
less. I try to be present. Tryto listen, but that was good.
i Are we on to the nextquestion. We
have a little break here though.
Okay. You called me out onsomething? I did. I made a
promise.
Unknown (17:35):
Very first episode.
What did I say? You said youwere going to play different
versions of your favorite AHAsong.
Brian Upton (17:45):
I think I said I
had millions of versions. Did we
have millions of fans? Millionsof versions of Take on me. And a
serial killer. Downloads ourpodcasts in prison facts? Just
straight facts.
Stacey Upton (18:02):
So far from back.
Brian Upton (18:04):
What does this
remind you of before I fade it
out? We go on to the nextquestion. This version. This
broken down version of take hervoice audition?
Unknown (18:17):
Yeah. Her audition for
the voice which was spectacular.
But they didn't accept
Stacey Upton (18:21):
no, but she made
it very far in the beauty that
was that she broke that downthat way she did. It was really
it was really a lot of fun. Likegave me the chills. You know
what else gives you the chills?
What? Yes.
Brian Upton (18:38):
Questions.
Questions give you the chill.
Unknown (18:43):
They do. Okay, are you
ready? We're moving on to the
closer level. When you areupset? Do you want me to give
you space or talk to you?
Stacey Upton (18:56):
Do you want to
answer this? Or do I? I mean,
we're gonna we know the answer.
I think you want space. Yeah, Iwant to be on a different
planet.
Unknown (19:04):
Yeah. And it's funny
because I want to talk well,
maybe that's not funny. I thinkthat's the crux of the issue.
Stacey Upton (19:12):
And there's a big
difference between you and I,
you're a slow processor. I am.
And I'm just pissed. Yeah.
Unknown (19:22):
I need time. But that
doesn't mean I need space. I
just need to think about itbefore I formulate my answer,
but I want to talk about it.
Don't you leave because this ishappening.
Stacey Upton (19:35):
What you
underestimate? Is the burden of
being right all the time.
Oh, gosh. Are we mansplainingagain?
Brian Upton (19:43):
I didn't do that
you that is you bringing that
up? I'm just telling you whenevery word you say is correct.
And somebody a sales my point ofview. Yeah, I need some space. I
see, you know why it was a greatidea stays
Unknown (20:02):
why? You know, the
because it was yours. Right?
Brian Upton (20:06):
So the, this is a
quick one, and then we'll bridge
into your answer, then we'llbridge further out to this is a
quickest question fastest answerwe've had but probably the
biggest issue to dive into forsustaining any relationship. I
mean, this is a quick one toanswer i, i inappropriately look
(20:29):
for space.
Unknown (20:32):
I don't know that
inappropriately is necessary,
Brian Upton (20:36):
but I'm not doing
it for the positive reasons.
There's my point, like, when Iget space, I'm not necessarily
going like, I'm gonna gomeditate. I'm gonna process it.
I'm just pissed.
Unknown (20:45):
Yeah, but here's what
I've learned in my held on my
fifth, almost 53 years,
Brian Upton (20:52):
way more than
halfway there?
Unknown (20:55):
Well, what I've
learned, what I have observed
maybe a better way to say it, isthat sometimes being mad? Well,
that's valid. And if you're madin that moment, okay, that's
what you are. Right? You know,as long as it doesn't manifest
into some physical altercation.
That's very different. But beingmad is not a bad thing,
(21:19):
necessarily. Sometimes we getmad, we have emotions. And
that's okay. It's a matter ofhow those emotions may be
expressed. Because then it cancreate a problem, right? And
it's hard if you're flooded withan emotion to maintain enough
control to not act on thatflooding of emotion.
Brian Upton (21:43):
So we are poster
children for the dilemma. I want
to not be around you, you wantto talk about it?
Unknown (21:54):
Yeah, absolutely. I
wonder? Well, I would imagine
many people experienced this.
But I think it really helps tohave a conversation about it at
a time when you're not fightingor, you know, you know, when it
gets to this type of asituation, a time when
everybody's calm, and say, Okay,here's, here's what I need. What
(22:18):
do you need? And then how can wefigure out to make sure we're
giving each other what theyneed?
Brian Upton (22:26):
Right. And I think
it goes to, almost to that math
equation we talked about, wheremy opposition level doesn't meet
the level of your basically thereward level. And that might not
(22:47):
have been the exact way wedescribed it. But this might be
a situation where if you havethat dilemma in a relationship
in one wants to, there's adifference between wanting space
and never talking about it, andwanting somebody wanting to talk
about it in the timing of whenthey want to talk about it. I'm
(23:08):
not an expert, we, you know,you're a health educator, you're
not an expert in this field. Butmy gut feeling is like that
should be one of those 5140Nights, give that person a
little space. You know, becausethe downside of trying to
continue that conversation withsomebody that does not want to
talk about it could create acavernous void.
Unknown (23:28):
Yeah, it's an uphill
battle. And early on, I think I,
I really tried to make you havethat conversation in those
moments. And it never ended.
Well, it was I ended up in tearsevery time it was not good.
Stacey Upton (23:41):
Yeah. And I also,
if it was done the wrong way,
different stages of ourrelationship. Some of that I
could carry for months.
Unknown (23:50):
Yeah. And you say
different stages of our
relationship. I think it's alsodifferent stages of our growth
and development. We we kind ofgrew up together because we got
married young.
Stacey Upton (24:01):
That's exactly
what I meant to say. But yeah,
I'm not. And then
Unknown (24:06):
that's not true. But I
want to point out one more
thing. So this says, when youare upset, do you want me to
give you space or talk to you?
One other thing that oftenhappens and you like to do, and
I think there are many peoplethat like to do this is they
want to fix the situation. So itmay not be somebody's upset
because of a fight. Maybethey're upset about something
(24:27):
else. And they all they need todo is just talk about it, or
maybe figure out how to solve iton their own. But very often
somebody else comes in and welllet's do this. Did you do this?
Let's you know, we can fix itlike this. And that's not what's
needed. Sometimes that's kind ofgrading right away, right? It
(24:48):
dismisses the pain that theother person is experiencing,
and that can actually feelreally good disrespectful. It's
what it is, at least it seemslike this to me. It's somebody
saying, I'm really uncomfortablebecause you're upset. So I want
(25:09):
to fix this right now. It's notsaying it's not being
empathetic. It's saying, I don'tlike this, I need to change it
is what it feels like. Thankyou.
Brian Upton (25:23):
That's your first
one. Because you know what, what
was a really good answer? Thelast bit I want to tag on that
is, like a introspection as Ilook at myself in that question.
Now, there's growing up is, isthe key word there? The end
(25:47):
result question makes merealize, for a long period of
time 2018 1920 21, then we getinto our relationship is I
wanted to be I was confounded. Iwanted to just be right, nothing
else. Nothing else. Because Ijust wanted to be right now so
(26:12):
pissed that somebody I almostjoked about it, you know,
sailing it. I've gotten betterat that, because I started kind
of giving myself in my 20s and30s, you kind of start just by
guess, things develop inperspective starts to kind of
outweigh your stubbornness inyour your limited perspective.
Unknown (26:35):
And maybe, I don't
know, maybe I'm wrong, you can
tell me if this is hitting themarker way away from it. But as
you grow older and get betterperspective, you also might have
developed a more secure sense ofwho you are. And so to admit
that maybe you're not right.
feels far less threatening.
Stacey Upton (27:01):
Like, that's so
onpoint
Unknown (27:04):
like, I could give two
shits, right? It doesn't matter
anymore. And that's
Stacey Upton (27:08):
going on the it's
hard to put an exact date on it.
But that's going on 15 years orwhatever, where hope sorry, I
don't know how that got in.
Unknown (27:20):
It's it's are you
playing our game already? No,
Stacey Upton (27:23):
no, it's it is in
there. But it's it's a it's an
amazingly surprised appearanceby big energy again,
interesting. I don't know howthe game set. But I don't know
how that made its way in rightthere.
Unknown (27:36):
Well, it was a cute
little ditty. Right.
Brian Upton (27:39):
But it does allow
me to get to we have to pay a
bill. There's been someconfusion about now that pan-am
is blowing up. And they'restarting service again. Where
exactly do they go and notgoing? It's overwhelming. It's
easier for me to let you knowthe one place they don't go.
(28:01):
Guess what this commercial likethis?
Unknown (28:05):
I have no idea. 10
seconds. Oh, this is better than
what we've done. A littlereminder, from Pat, we can take
you to every continent in theworld, except one. Antarctica.
Brian Upton (28:19):
That's the
commercial. as much research as
I had time to do last week wasnot where they go. Or they don't
get the luxury that you canhave, but where they do not go
Unknown (28:31):
speaking of Antarctica,
and a common value of adventure.
Brian Upton (28:38):
I'm interested.
Well,
Unknown (28:40):
you know where I'm
going with this? I do not, we've
decided where you want to go toAntarctica, you got that? Right.
Brian Upton (28:48):
I didn't know where
you're going. Tell a little bit
about it.
Unknown (28:54):
Well, written, this is
a, this is a big trip. And it's
a bit more costly than the tripswe normally do. So we decided,
okay, we're going to startsaving for it. And it's going to
be a several years out. But thenwe realize the trip that we want
to do means that we will besailing from Argentina. Is that
(29:18):
correct? That's correct toAntarctica, and then getting off
putting our feet on theAntarctica and kayaking
somewhere.
Stacey Upton (29:26):
And I'll get more
of the details for the next one.
So we'll tease a little bitgoing for existence, the fun. I
think part of this is reachingout. And maybe a lesson here is
that you kind of like there's noreason to stop sort of like
future casting and dreamingtogether. And that's just one
big one. And I think I put itoff to the back end of all of
our budgeting at first at firstand then I looked at the trip
(29:48):
that you wanted us to reservein. I looked at the energy
that's involved in thisparticular one, which is taking
soil samples getting on landtaking kayak trips. You're not
just seeing Antarctica.
Yeah, we don't want to be in our60s doing this.
Brian Upton (30:05):
I don't think I
don't think we want to be too
far out. Yeah. So it's better tobe put on the front end after
you're here to kind of put in anarticle on the on the board. So
Unknown (30:15):
that's our plan Okay,
under question number three, the
closest Are you ready?
Stacey Upton (30:29):
No, not because I
haven't done one of mine yet.
Oh, you want to do yours first?
Yeah, I want to do one of mine.
Next potential sponsor if is thebook questions for the game of
life. We've been having fun withthis one breaking it up. Yeah.
If you can resolve any singledispute anywhere in the world,
(30:51):
what would you solve?
Oh, my goodness. There's somuch.
Brian Upton (31:04):
I think it'd be
fair, because it's kind of
catching us at a left. I thinkit'd be fair to possibly expand
that question, too. If you couldsolve one thing. Oh, yeah. And
that if you have something thatyeah, climate change. You want
the world to stop gettingwarmer?
Unknown (31:24):
Yeah. I would like the
the forest fires and the floods,
and all the turmoil. I'd like tostop all that. I'd like to think
about the fact that maybe ourgrandkids and grandkids, great
(31:44):
grandkids and great, great.
grandkids and beyond, will havea planet to be on still.
Brian Upton (31:52):
I think it's know,
the dog right now is laughing
her waters so loud. I know. It'sincredibly distracting to me.
You mentioned global warming.
Yeah. And the end of the planet,and she went and drank all the
water out of her bowl. It's nothappening right now.
Stacey Upton (32:08):
pretzels are
making me thirsty.
Brian Upton (32:10):
Well, you brought
up a feisty little dinner
conversation that happened inClearwater with Brian Upton and
his son, Bailey, Upton Kinsey,and Kenzie and Stacy over
climate change. Not for now. Butit does elicit a ton of emotions
on both sides. And I thinkthat's a valid one. I don't
(32:31):
know. I feel like I would liketo do one solve one. Issue, or
conflict, I guess is the exactquestion but I'll broaden it a
little bit to if I can unwindit. And solve the problem of
say, like armed conflict. Well,I feel like some pieces it's an
(32:59):
impossible ask. I know that. Butthis we're playing the game,
right? Yeah. The game would beif, yeah, unwinding all of like,
the history we know. You know,the basic shit we know about,
you know, human culture.
48 50,000 years, we stopbasically hunting and gathering
10,000 years ago. Once we stopwe start creating borders and we
(33:20):
start protecting them in weaponsevolve in I would stop armed
conflict in its super flower inthe rifle kind of thing you say?
But shit, why not playing thegame?
Stacey Upton (33:34):
We're playing a
game and that brings one more
thing to mind.
Brian Upton (33:38):
I was off to now.
Yeah, I
Unknown (33:40):
want one more to solve
our mental health our lack of
resources and support for mentalhealth in our country, and
really probably across theworld. I don't know that any
anywhere, does it? Well.
Brian Upton (33:59):
I'm gonna take
yours now. Okay, yeah. Well, no,
I'll keep mine. I'll keep mine.
Because I think or maybe you'llget rid of yours. Because if I
do mind, maybe we'll have bettermental health.
Stacey Upton (34:14):
Possibly.
Brian Upton (34:16):
That's guaranteed.
Yeah.
Unknown (34:18):
Okay. Well, when you
brought yours up, that spurned
me to think of that so I thinkthey're they may be related in
some ways you could certainlysay
Stacey Upton (34:29):
right, and were
you onto last question. We're
gonna do one fun thing. I'mgoing to surprise you. You are I
love surprises. See if thisrings a bell?
Unknown (34:40):
Yes, what is it? Only
murders in the building.
Stacey Upton (34:45):
And we're going to
start doing some reviews. On the
podcast just for a little bit offun because we do enough movies.
You might have a book you wantto read TV shows restaurants
that might be appropriate in bigcities. We did a little bit in
San Francisco. But I thoughtwhat we do is we just do it on a
flat one to 10 scale. And we'lldo it like the one by pizza
(35:05):
reviews, you can go to pointfour, you can go 7.8, you can
really get specific getgranular. And the way that we're
going to do it is we're going todo it in tiles. So, you know,
the obvious one would be, youknow, one being one or zero
being, you know, not much totalk about, and 10 being, you
know, the best and stealing fromall the other ones, you know, I
(35:29):
think I even had a an idea killsome time, Stace.
Unknown (35:35):
Okay, so my question
is, are we reading only murders
in the building right now?
Brian Upton (35:41):
It's exactly what
we're doing. Okay. And so well,
we're, we're
Unknown (35:46):
in the midst of season
two. Now.
Brian Upton (35:48):
I think for the
purpose of this. What we'll do
is nobody knows what we'retalking about. It's on Hulu.
It's on Hulu, and it stars SteveMartin, Martin Short, and Selena
Gomez.
Unknown (36:00):
And they're all so
good. It's really well cast and
the dialogue is well done.
Brian Upton (36:08):
It's unbelievable.
Three strangers share anobsession with true crime and
suddenly find themselves wrappedup in one. When a grisly death
occurs inside their exclusiveUpper West Side apartment
building. The trail suspectsmurder and employs their precise
knowledge of true crime toinvestigate the truth, perhaps
even more explosive are the liesthat they tell to one another.
Soon, the endanger trail comesto realize a killer might be
(36:29):
living among them as they raceto decipher the mounting clues
before it's too late. That's thelittle BS summary of it. And
it's brilliant.
Stacey Upton (36:40):
That and that
summary does not do it justice.
Brian Upton (36:42):
No, I think it's
the best we can do is just kind
of like, you know, talk a littlebit more like you said, the, the
writing is quick, I think Iwould compare it to a movie that
I really enjoyed called knivesout, which is six 710 different
plot lines. But, you know,concisely brought together,
(37:03):
everything makes sense. All ofthe leads they follow up on as
far as like the teasers theytake they close
Stacey Upton (37:09):
everything up.
Yeah. So what are you given it?
I will give this oh, here's
Brian Upton (37:16):
00 to four tiles is
broken.
Stacey Upton (37:19):
Yeah, I'm gonna
say,
Brian Upton (37:21):
five to seven is
quality or anything in eight,
nine or 10 range is somewhatwe're calling it a mosaic.
Unknown (37:28):
And I think this is a
mosaic. I would give it a solid
nine, maybe even a littlehigher. It's, it's really well
done. I have not seen a singleepisode. That was disappointing.
And the humor in it is, it'sjust great.
Brian Upton (37:48):
I'm gonna go just a
little below you give myself
some wiggle room. 8.5 is whereI'm going on this one as far as
that, and we'll post that upthere. But we'll kind of start
keeping track of these reviews.
The other thing I want to callout is a friend of ours, Laura
suggested that we make a Spotifyplaylist for the podcast, and
throw all the music, all thecomedians, everything we're
(38:11):
thrown on. It's a great fuckingidea. It was a great idea. And I
told her that immediately, thepodcast exists. It's public.
It's called the broken tilesplaylist, and it's on Spotify.
And we'll just throw everythingwe think that's interesting from
the show in there.
Stacey Upton (38:28):
Did you start it
Brian Upton (38:29):
yet? It's that
it'll do a search for the broken
tiles playlist. I will do that.
Yeah. And then we'll just addthe little fun things from the
show but it was call out to agreat we hear a great idea we'll
do it this question where we getto get to entrance?
Unknown (38:49):
Okay, here we go.
Closest. What is the nextchapter in our relationship?
Stacey Upton (39:00):
As always, with
every incredibly difficult
question that gives me pause.
You go first.
Unknown (39:14):
We're definitely into a
new chapter. I kind of feel like
we're, our kids are out of thehouse. They've been out of the
house for a while. Oh, I think Iwould say our next chapter is
really not to belabor this word,but adventure. You know, we're
(39:34):
planning trips, we're planningbigger trips, because we have
the time. And me I think thatthat's what it would have to be.
That's my answer.
Stacey Upton (39:47):
Mine is going to
be you know how I can get a
little bit morbid with the timewe have and specific data On the
ages will live to, and how manyyears we've put in divided into
what the world says we're goingto live, I got every intention
of living to 100 Yeah, we'reeating enough beans and grains
(40:10):
and vegetables are still live to100 and fucking 50. Unless a
truck hits us, that's whatthat's what makes the average.
And so that's why you have tokind of Thank you. That's what
so the average is real. I thinkthis is in tune with it. Yes,
that part of it. But I feel likethe next chapter for us because
we're still in the front end ofit. So we be in the beginning of
this next chapter in I feel theequity, we're into a chapter of
(40:35):
like, equity, the whole balancein our relationship. And that's
a very first for us.
Unknown (40:41):
Well, that is so true.
And I think that's playing outalmost every day right now.
Brian Upton (40:48):
And don't get me
wrong, that makes it sound like
this is gonna be very careful.
There's been times where I'vebeen in the ship, and I didn't
feel equitable in therelationships. Other times I
might have, you might have feltthe same way about you're
standing in the relationship.
This isn't just at 50 years old,the view leveled up to mine, I'm
talking about both of us overthe whole time at different long
(41:11):
periods of time, not havingequal standing in the
relationship. And so it's realsweet felt,
Unknown (41:18):
right. And when we're
talking about not having equal
standing, it's not about who'searning more money, or anything
like that, or who's, who's theone putting in more time to deal
with all the things that withinthe home, it's, it's kind of it
could be all of that combined.
Brian Upton (41:39):
In fact, that would
be one of the back ends of it,
I'm just talking about lookingacross the room and having that
sort of like baller kind ofrespect for somebody else that
you just that we seem to giveout more to others in our life
than our partners sometimesbecause you kind of have a
different standard at home, ordifferent place we've come from,
(42:00):
but just like in a businesspartnership, just like in
coaching football, the minuteyou try to meet somebody where
they're at and try to achievethat. And I think I'm a broken
record on this on this podcastas far as the equity part. But I
do circle back around to becausemy record is sort of undefeated
in trying to achieve that. Notjust in our relationship with
(42:23):
with other people. It's it's ait's a goal to get to,
Unknown (42:28):
you know, you might say
that is also a common value for
us.
Brian Upton (42:34):
Equity. Yeah, I
think it's a common value that I
think the more I look at thatquestion, going back to the
first question, the game, Ithink it was, I'd look at that
more as these ones that you saw,I always looked at life and like
that video game where you'rekind of jumping up and you're
(42:55):
grabbing coins, you're jumpingup and some of those levels are
just harder than the other to,like the boss monsters have
certain boss monster is a veryquick reference that I would
make where I'd lose you andprobably 90% of the audience
that at the end of each level ofa video game, most like platform
video games, you end up having avery big challenge at the end,
(43:17):
it's going to be difficultpuzzles to solve, you might make
your way through at tunnel,jump, leap, grab things. But
inevitably, you're going to runinto a boss monster to get to
the next level much harder, youknow, to beat that. The only way
to get past that boss monster isby learning the game repetition,
sort of understanding what ittakes to beat them generally
doesn't happen on the first try.
But I know I'm getting wayaround the point here. But I
(43:41):
think some of these things arejust like that some of these
ones you grab, and you have themin common and they work. Some of
these ones we talked about verydifficult to achieve together.
Sure, you know, in equity wouldbe one that I would say was a
difficult boss monster for us inoh, gosh, maybe we haven't
beaten it yet. Maybe we're stillwe're in the baby. We're in the
(44:03):
stages of I can see the end ofthat level. Or maybe maybe we
have but I think some of thoseones are harder than others to
achieve.
Unknown (44:11):
Yeah. And I think
equity it makes sense. It would
be a boss monster. I've neverheard that term before, because
our society doesn't reallyuphold equity.
Brian Upton (44:28):
Explain that a
little bit.
Unknown (44:29):
Well, equity. You can't
say that there is equity between
men and women in the workforce.
And even among people of color.
You know, there's a lot of youknow, it's just a fact we've
(44:52):
seen a play out time and timeand time again. So defined
equity. It's it's not anintuitive there are not we don't
we don't see people modeling howto manage and create that often
right? Occasionally, but notoften.
Stacey Upton (45:13):
Yeah Are you ready
to play the blame game and get
out of here I am.
Do we miss anything? Did youhave anything on your we did
miss somethingYes we did not mention
intelligent change that's kind
Brian Upton (45:25):
of a good move
though because I think the more
I we did actually at thebeginning we kind of started out
we didn't give the promo codesand all the other things but we
did right out the gate mentionedthat this is the game we pay
intelligent change.
Unknown (45:36):
Well, let's mention the
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interested in learning moreabout some of the games we play
and some of the the wonderfulproducts by intelligent change,
I think I've mentioned in pastepisodes, The Five Minute
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(46:00):
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Brian Upton (46:06):
for 10% discount
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Unknown (46:09):
10% That's why it's
called broken tiles 10
Stacey Upton (46:13):
Then I will have
by the time this drops, we will
make it easier on our side. Alsowill will go and open it up now
the Twitter's open Instagrampage will be open anything and
everything to share the podcastget on there like the post that
we do share it, download onApple, do all those things and
then we'll start accumulating.
We really just wanted to be likesuper organic you I mean, like,
(46:34):
just just find a way to shareit, talk about it a little bit.
And we'll find you and get yousome free ship from intelligent
change. Hey, this is thebeginning of the game. But this
is also one of the funniestmoments we've ever had.
Unknown (46:48):
Oh, yes, this is such a
great memory. So you hear this
song?
Brian Upton (46:52):
Hold on a classic
Alphaville. Yep. Right. Yeah,
Stacey Upton (46:56):
that's exactly it.
Brian Upton (46:58):
But go ahead.
Unknown (46:59):
We were at the
intersection near where we live.
And we heard this music we're inour car and we're just like,
gosh, where's that coming from?
And we look and Stan is sittingat the intersection on Well,
you'll have to describe themotorcycle
Stacey Upton (47:16):
it's a fake
Harley. It's a three wheel it's
a Harley Davidson in I'mprobably gonna get the shit beat
out of me for saying becausemaybe that is some hardcore bike
gang out there. That's on threewheel Harley's but, but it was
like a group of it was a groupof three wheel Harley Davidsons.
With husbands on the front,wives on the back helmets with
the microphones talking to eachother that classic sort of three
(47:36):
wheel kind of seen this songblasting through the Esplanade
blasting like it was it was infull surround sound stereo. guy
had to be in his 60s 70s ontheir 60s 70s and the sunglasses
in state they drove by and staystay looked at each other
forever young on their Harley'sthat aren't really Harley's
(47:58):
holy, but the midlife crisis itwas so funny.
All right, I need a number andwe'll get out.
Okay, between one and what?
Brian Upton (48:07):
I don't know.
6,000,030 Taylor's ageseriously? Really jokey we? We
did 30
Stacey Upton (48:16):
Oh gosh, I forgot
you have to do that. Yeah,
I mean, I got it. Okay. I thinkwe can do it. Let's see if it
even plays. We might be past theplaylist. I gotta get on my
button
Brian Upton (48:36):
okay
Stacey Upton (48:43):
take your time.
Oops. I think you're getting aphone call from
Brian Upton (48:51):
that'd be
hilarious. Phone call from
Taylor. Yeah, I don't think thisis her. Then we can't talk too
much. We got to guess and goout. I need you. I'm Bailey.
Yeah, I
Unknown (49:03):
am Bailey. Also. Okay.
Brian Upton (49:05):
We'll take it out.
See, I gotta clear out. Saysomething brilliant. To me. kill
some time.
Stacey Upton (49:17):
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm
not too good at that.
Brian Upton (49:19):
Well, we played we
landed 30 for our daughter
Taylor on a song that we bothsaid was Bailey. It's Taylor and
it's Taylor. That's great. Putthis on the playlist this is let
me go let me get into this.
song's called better. Read Vailand Sam truth.
Unknown (49:43):
Okay, well, it's a
wrap. Thanks. Love you bye.
Bye. Why I need a reason. I needyou right here to be away