Beyond the Game: Unmasking Mysteries, Injustice, and Holiday Cheer

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What if the games we play are more than just sports, echoing larger societal issues and mysteries?" Join us as we unpack this episode filled with riveting discussions that transcend the court and field. We kick things off with an urgent call to combat injustice before diving into local basketball scenes, where we question the competitive balance and explore strategies for fairer games. You'll hear about Skyline's supremacy, Central's triumph over Broadway, and the noteworthy first dunk by Riley at Millbrook.

Then, the conversation swerves into uncharted territory with the enigmatic drone sightings along the East Coast. Are these just routine surveillance tools, or do they hint at something more sinister, possibly linked to global powers or secretive government operations? From the whispers of underground bunkers to the shadowy activities of the elite, we unravel theories that challenge the official narratives. We also shine a spotlight on college football's coaching evolution, as former NFL star Michael Vick takes the helm at Norfolk State. His journey could redefine a struggling program and inspire new paths in sports leadership.

The episode continues with a shocking turn, dissecting the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO and the potential motives tied to systemic healthcare failings. We ponder over the implications of this high-profile crime and what it says about the broader healthcare landscape. As the holiday season beckons, we pivot to festive celebrations, urging listeners to find joy and activism in equal measure. From holiday movie picks to heartfelt messages, we wrap up with a reminder of the power of voice and the spirit of truth. Merry Christmas and a hopeful New Year to all our listeners, with promises of more engaging conversations ahead!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I was ready, bro.
There's a hindrance Silence isconsent, so let your voices be
heard, man, we brothers withopinions.
Now we spreading the word.
Bringing light to the darkRevolution is our art.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Man.
A lot of people talk, but theyain't never walked apart.
Gotta shine a light on povertyand fight against injustice and
always speak the truth when theenemies are watching.
Happy Sunday, ladies andgentlemen.
Three days before the festivalstarts for everybody, when they
get to see Santa Claus come downthe chimney, we're going to
have a good show for you todaywith the most elite brothers you

(00:52):
ever known Wayne, Zeb and Tony.
Along with myself, we're goingto get into this.
We're going to speak about theUnitedHealthcare murder
situation out here in New Yorkand we're going to get into Mr
Michael Vick taking over atNorfolk State as the head coach.
Definitely going to get intoZeb's Pick'em because he went
100% again.
Now that's two weeks in a row,so y'all need to follow my man,

(01:13):
Mr Rush, and we are definitelygoing to talk about all the
drones flying over top of all ofour houses lately.
So let's get right into it withlocal sports and local news by
my man, TD.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yes, sir.
So let's jump right into theselocal scores.
There was a lot of good gamesand a lot of not so good games,
me and Wayne especiallydiscussing.
But we'll start with.
We'll recap the week a littlebit.
And on Monday night Skylinedefeated Clark County 90-48.
And then Tuesday night you hadSkyline play again.

(01:50):
They played Brentsville and won81-24.
Meridian defeated Liberty 96-25.
And Falkier defeated WarrenCounty 70-44.
So Thursday night games we hadRock Ridge with over Liberty

(02:14):
61-32.
Skyline destroyed Kettle Run101-36.
We're starting to see a patternhere with Skyline and Hanley
defeated Sharando 66 to 49.
Osborne Park fell to Meridian93 to 25.
Falk here beat Manassas Park 66to 15.

(02:37):
Wayne over here, shake it, I'mwith you, it's coming, just let
me get through this.
Parkview defeated Brentsville69-56.
Hold on, who did?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
you just say Parkview .

Speaker 3 (02:50):
So they do exist.
Yeah, parkview's still there,they exist.
And then Friday night we hadJames Wood beat Liberty 54-51
and Millbrook beat Kettle Run94-36.
And yesterday's game we hadgames on Saturday.

(03:13):
Skyline played again, beat PageCounty 82-18.
Hanley beat George Wythe 64-54.
Manassas Park fell to who's JF,I'm not sure.
Jefferson Forge Jefferson Forge, yeah 63 to 28.
Sharanda beat Fort Defiance 63to 45.

(03:37):
And Strasburg defeated WarrenCounty 60 to 41.
So there you go, fellas.
Local basketball scores.
I know, wayne and I we went toa few games and we have some
opinions on our local basketball.
And Chris will answer yourquestion of definitely why

(04:01):
Hanley does not play a lot ofthese local teams, some of them
anymore.
So, wade, I'll let you startbecause I know you look like
you're eager.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
I'm not eager, I'll pass the mic right up as I'm
talking, but I mean, some ofthese schools know, when it
comes to your basketball program, you're not on that elite level
.
So therefore they need to putthemselves in a class where they
can at least compete.
I mean, we're we're hearingscores like 82, 18 and 101 to 36

(04:33):
, like come on, man, like peopledon't want to see that man.
You know what I mean?
Like so we gotta class theseschools and there's certain
class that they, that theybelong in.
Basically is what I'm trying tosay.
Like we know Kettle Run can'tcompete with the Handleys and
the Skylines, but we know theycan compete on the football
level.
You know what I'm saying.

(04:54):
It's just different man.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, and what's funny and I totally agree with
you you get a lot of blowoutsand you're playing a class that
you could compete in.
Because what's funny to me isokay, you have kettle run, who's
3a in football?
Right, and can beat five 6aschools in football, compete on
that level, right, but yet inbasketball they're playing up in

(05:21):
4a now, now, make that, makesense.
Like Manassas, parsons andBrinson, they're all like 3A or
2A or 3A in football.
But yet in basketball which tome we all know, that's taking
nothing away from football play,but way more skill involved in
basketball you can't translate afootball player a lot into a

(05:42):
basketball player.
Sometimes you can't.
But yeah, you see what I'mgetting at.
Like, how are you 3A infootball, dominating, right, and
then you get bad ball.
You think you can compete withlike a 4A, 5a school, which I
get.
You know a lot of colleges theywant to build, so you don't
really know what's going oninside a coach's head.
Because I'm like that, you,because I'm like that, you want
to play the best.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Isn't Skyline 4A in basketball?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yes, so why?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
are they playing people like Page County and
stuff and beating about 100points?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Because I believe that's part of their district.
Yeah, it's part of theirdistrict, probably, so they have
to play them.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
And you know what's weird I was telling you guys.
I saw like the Hanley Gym theother day through a video.
Skyline's not on the wall asone of our opponents for the
district, but I thought they'rein Northwestern District.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
No, no, I believe they are in the.
They're in the NorthwesternDistrict right.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
When it comes to basketball.
I believe they're in thatdistrict, or the, because.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Clark County's bull run, right, yeah, I know that.
Then what's the other one youhave that I can't think of?
It's not.
Maybe it's his bull run I'mthinking of.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
But what I'm saying is Skyline's playing all them
smaller schools and destroyingthem.
It's not just Skyline.
Yeah, that's why I'm but evenJames Wood was destroying teams,
like it's not just Skyline,like whoever's been to Nassauas
Park no lie, man, they struggle.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, they're unfortunate, but that's what
we're getting at.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's like Brentsville too, man.
I mean Brentsville's terribleat basketball.
Man, I don't know how were theyat football.
Tell me, were they good infootball?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, that's another one that's decent in football.
Their football team is deep,but they're 3A in football.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah.
So it goes back to those thingswhere they say like, oh,
certain schools are, they're abasketball school.
You know what I'm saying?
They're a basketball county.
That's just like the team thatHaney played yesterday, george
Wythe.
They're known to have a goodbasketball program.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I mean, and they're only 1A, and they're only one A,
and they hung with Hanley.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Man, I'm not going to lie to you.
At halftime they were up there.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
They did look like a one, A school.
They did Trust me.
Have you seen?
Saw those kids?

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Tony and I, we were at that game.
They did not look like a singleA school man.
Yeah, they could play.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
They were good, yeah, so it's kind of hard, but like,
but I I just want to say, letme get somebody on the show to
discuss it because it's a greattopic.
You know the classes and allthis and that.
Because at first, well we know,at first we thought, oh, it
went by student population andhey, you're in this class period
.
But no, obviously you have thediscretion to move up if you

(08:19):
want, and that's what some ofthese programs are doing, like
the skylines, the britsvilles, Iguess, and all that you know,
playing 4A and basketball.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
So, even though it's early on in the season, still so
far it looks like a collisioncourse is heading this way for
Hanley and Skyline.
We'll see.
They're both stomping teams.
Hanley had close games thisweek Shout out to Sharando and
George Whiff but they seem to bereally good compared to the
area schools.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh yeah, the separation, the gap, I guess I
mean.
But let's go back.
I mean, look, page County iswho.
Skyline played we talk aboutall these right 82 to 8.
They beat Brentsville, hanleybeat the Brakes off Brentsville,
millbrook, I think.
Did I say Milbrook played them?
Yeah, I think Milbrook playedBrentsville right and scored 101

(09:10):
or something againstBrentsville.
So all three of those schoolshave played them and the
outcome's been the same.
The scores are about the same.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Did Hampton lose?
Because Hanley's now rankednumber one and Hampton's third?
They might have.
I'll have to look that up.
Hampton was first and Hanleysecond.
Now Hanley's first andHampton's third.
They might have lost tosomebody.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I'm pretty sure I mean typically that's what
happens.
I mean if they lost and theywere number one in the region.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Anything on Martinsburg, jefferson and
Spring Mills or nah.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Nah, I didn't.
Unfortunately, I didn't pullthose up real quick.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
All right, sorry, west Virginia, we'll see you
guys next week.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, we'll see.
It's just because I wanted tomove on, us to move on and talk
about, because Wayne hadsomething you know about the
local basketball and Bubba,that's great, you brought up
West Virginia.
You know a hop, skip and a jumpaway.
Most of them teams can playwith Spring Mills, martinsburg,
even your hedges.
You know they're competitive, alot of them Very competitive.

(10:16):
So who would you ask at allHampton if they lost?
I would say yeah, they're 5-2.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's why they went from 1-3.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
They lost to Woodside High School and they lost to
John Marshall.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, see, and John Marshall's 2A.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
They lost 70-51 to John Marshall.
Well, Haley played JohnMarshall, but that out?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, they lost by like 50.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
They're hugging for the first half, Then the second.
John Marshall, hey they'reloaded, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
then their coach was like all right, unleash the dogs
.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, I mean we just couldn't put the ball in that
game when they played them.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
But they have a huge size I could say they got
compliments.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
There was parents and stuff from John in the state
like hey where are you all from?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
So, they made some noise.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
They played him hard, so they got complimented.
I can say that they got theirrespect.
You know what I mean.
It's not like they laid downagainst them.
They played hard.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Shout out to the big homie, ben Bates, on getting a
couple wins this week.
Yeah man.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, what is he?
That's four or five wins now.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
After being 0-2, he's turning it around, baby, I
believe who's?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
that James Wood, yeah , James Wood.
James Wood, yeah, James Wood.
So my whole thing is and Ithink Wayne's thing is is just
make the talent pool a littlemore competitive, right, I guess
is what?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
you're getting at, I mean at the same time, like I,
say, if you have these schoolseedings not seedings but like
double A single, a all that thatbased off a student population
there's no way to tell if you'regoing to have good kids in
certain sports or not.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Oh well, I was talking to my ad after the game
that you know, and that prettymuch exact same thing came up,
because he wanted to schedulewhatever and let him know
they're playing charlottesvilleand stuff.
But uh, yeah, we said the exactsame thing.
Like dave, where I coach, likedude, I could have an amazing
class come through and then it's, it's hit or miss, and to me

(12:31):
that goes with a lot of schools.
So that's what I'm saying.
It'd be good to get somebody onhere, like, because you never
know what your talent is goingto be, a lot of times coming up.
Right, you know, we know thatyou can have your down years.
So maybe manassas park just Idon't know, maybe they were a
powerhouse, like they were good,but now they've just had a

(12:51):
couple down years.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I mean they need to go work out at the park in
Manassas.
Yes, swamp.
So I'm just saying you know somaybe they did it.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Like hey, like we can talk about it Like, all right,
we're really good nowcompetitive team, and then
that's what I'm getting at.
So okay, so say not to say herein a few years, but hey, maybe
they might have some down years.
Are they going to do they dropor just stay for it like dude,
we're a 4a school, you see whatI'm getting at.
Like you, you'll have your debt, so maybe that's about to be

(13:21):
good, just to get somebody onyeah, I've, I've never known
them to be really good man.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Like it's like when I was here, like that's mid-90s,
late-90s, I mean all you prettymuch heard from that area was
like Osborne or Osborne Park.
Oh yeah, when we was in schoolthey never talked about a
Manassas Park man, I mean it wasa school, obviously, but I mean
I don't even think they were onour schedule.

(13:45):
Man, like when I played, wenever played them.
No, we played Osborne.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Osborne Parkview.
Yeah, those guys Broad Run.
We're old Broad Run.
Yeah, yeah, broad Run, butBroad Run is good.
Broad Run used to be good.
No, no, no, they're still.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
And football back in the day.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Basketball.
They're up.
Look I'll bring them up.
Oh no, I believe you now.
I was surprised.
The broad runs supposedly got avery good basketball team.
Yeah, Can they be added?
Because I think broad runsranked in the state what are
they?
3a, I wouldn't say.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Are they 3A?
No, they got to be higher thanus.
Chris, you never know.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
They might be 5A, you never know what they are.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You said 5A Probably.
Where's Loudoun Valley andLoudoun County?
How come Haley and them don'teven see these schools anymore?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Now see, I can agree with you on that.
I'm like why don't we play likeLoudoun Valley anymore?
It's like in football orbasketball.
We played them.
I think a couple years we'llplay them in basketball yeah in
the region and stuff.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
It's so weird.
It's too many schools nowthere's so many, it's good.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
When you pull up, when you pull up northwestern
region basketball teams, allthat pops up is they got the
standings right away.
So I'm gonna list it from oneto the bottom.
That number one is Falk here at3-0, hanley 3-0, liberty 2-0.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
That's not updated, bro.
They play way more games thanthat.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Well, I mean hold on my bad Overall Hanley 4-0,
liberty 3-2.
Skyline's already played eight.
They're 7-1.
3-2.
Skyline's already played 8.
They're 7-1.
Millbrook 2-2.
Central 3-0.
Meridian 2-0.
Monroe 4-1.
Sharando 2-1.
Keller Run 0-2.
Manassas Park 0-4.

(15:35):
Warren County 0-4.
And Brentsville 0-5.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
You said Northwestern District.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Dude, it says Northwestern Region.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Oh, I was about.
So that's the whole mad schools.
And you said central, butthey're definitely a smaller
school like double a orsomething.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
So yeah, so that's the whole northwestern region,
like yeah, but they, but theydon't even have like like uh,
james wood's not even on there.
You know, I'm saying, but theygot new, they got warren county
and they got um shirando.
Where's james wood?
James, but how did?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
central get into our district.
It's weird man.
I don't know.
Didn't y'all go see centralplay yesterday?
Yeah, yeah, how'd that game go?
Who they play?

Speaker 4 (16:19):
they played broadway broadway, not broad run, not
broad run, broadway, central onebroadway was trash bro.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, I mentioned, he played.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Broadway Broadway, not Broad Run, Not Broad Run
Broadway.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Central One Broadway was trash bro, yeah, I mentioned
that score Wayne isn'tCentral's coach Jeff Whittle.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeah, and that invitational was at his former
high school, yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Charlesburg yeah, I said they have a very nice gym.
Yeah, I like the setup.
They got a scores table lid.
I'm like man, we need this.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
They had the real, like when sweat gets on the
floor.
They had like the NBA mop padsman, they had that shit.
They was ready out there thekids were out there.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Tony Jeff Whittle used to give us 20 a game.
He used to get at us man he wasnice.
He ain't give me 20 a gamebecause I was watching him,
Wayne me, and you was watchingbut you know what I'm saying he
got 20 on us every game.
Who is he coach?

Speaker 4 (17:12):
He coaches Central, the big tall guy.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I mean, hey, he and Andrew Dillinger, they was nice
when we played.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
So last thing we'll say on this and we'll move on.
We got to move on, but I cansay I'll speak on it.
We know that Aiden Click is onWoodstock.
You know Ashley, yeah, ashley'sson, so he can play.
They've got some ballplayers,like you know, talented, but

(17:45):
what we're going to try to say,it's just that overall I get
talent.
You know what I mean.
Like if Central played, itmight be, if Central played
daily they'd score 20 points.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
To sum it up for you, there's not enough talent man.
Yeah, they just don't haveenough.
Like a lot of these schoolsthat I go around and watch over
the previous few weeks, theyonly have like a six seven-man
rotation and you know likeyou've got to have more players
that can come off the bench andcontribute in just a little bit
of minutes that they get.

(18:15):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
But I've noticed that with every school, Hanley only
has six seven-man rotation IfWill's getting 35 and Christian
15, they only scored 16 points.
The rest of the team.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, but there's going to be nights where you
know Will might have to guard abigger player.
He might get a foul trump.
Like you have to have at leastthree or four guys that are
coming off that bench that cancontribute.
Man.
You got to have like a nine-manrotation in my eye.
Man, you got to have two guardsand two bigs that's coming off
that bench.
Keeping everybody fresh, man.

(18:46):
And that's how you minimizeyour superstars getting in foul
trouble.
Man, giving them quickbreathers Nine times out of ten.
A lot of high school playersthey pick up dumb fouls because
they're tired and that happensto Will a lot.
So getting that quick twominutes, maybe 60 seconds even
helps man, you know what I mean,but you have to have the guy

(19:09):
that comes off that bench,that's ready for that thing.
You?

Speaker 3 (19:12):
know what I mean.
You make a great point.
It's like you know a kid can'tplay.
I understand some kids can goforever, like I have one kid who
played soccer but playsbasketball forever.
Like that boy never gets tired.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
You know what I mean.
We can't say that because weknow that he has used up the
energy.
But I get what you're saying,for example.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
This is what I would do with, like Christian and
Riley, who played for Millbrook,and shout out to him he had his
first dunk in the game, so goodjob, riley.
So I would just be like if I'dsub him out, I'd be like I'd I
literally tell them look at theclock, in a minute you get a 60.
You go right back to the sportstable and that's what I thought
when they'd come out.

(19:49):
You know, hey, I get it.
You have your dogs on your that.
You want it.
But they add, they have to geta breather during it.
You know you have to give them abreak and that quick little,
like wayne just said, 60 secondslittle, a minute to dude,
that's good enough.
They catch their breath, theyregroup.
Sometimes the kids got toregroup too yeah like they might
not be playing.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
You know, get them out, maybe talk to them, but
yeah, wait, I mean good pointand it also takes out like that
heaviness that you feel to yourlegs at times, man, like when
you run a lot up and down thefloor.
Chris knows, because chrisplayed high school basketball
with me like your legs get heavyat a certain time, yeah, and
then you'll see a kid pull upfor a jumper.
You'd be like it looks good,but it's flat as shit.

(20:28):
You couldn't get no liftbecause them legs are heavy.
But yeah, just quick breathers,man.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yep, my legs didn't get heavy they got heavy in
practice, because you got to thefirst team rocking them, but we
have no first team rocking thembut we have no books.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Well, chris, when you have no muscle tone, how can
they get heavy?
No, you're not gonna get heavy.
It don't matter if you gotmuscle tone or not, as long as
you're using them, using themuscles, look, they're gonna get
heavy man.
And then it just.
It's just so weird, when you goto that bench, just get that
good, nice little sick, quickstretch, a couple, a little bit
of water, look, you have to goafter that, you're good to go
after that man You're good

Speaker 2 (21:05):
to go, but let's move right along, man, zach got to
get that state title today.
Man, since my senior year we'vebeen the states like fucking 15
seasons, man, and we've lostevery one.
So let's go, zach, let's goChristian, let's go Will, let's
go get this.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Okay, and on that point we are moving on to drones
in the news.
Drones flying in new jersey,new york, virginia, all along
the east coast, up and down,coming out the ocean.
What's the theory?
Got these drones?
God wayne said he saw some theother night outside his house
and the military is coveringthis up I'm gonna let y'all
speak first, so let's go aheadwhat you got, chris, because
you're in new york.
Have you seen any drones?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
you're in brooklyn no , they ain't gonna be right here
in the city.
You haven't seen none, not inthe city, it's over jersey.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
They can't be flying them right here with all these
big skyscrapers and stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Man, yeah, it's across the bridge on you, yeah,
but I know lots of people thatsay they see him.
I just hate how thegovernment's hiding it up,
hiding it and covering it up,like wayne just said, and oh, we
got everything under control,but yet they're like well, we
don't know what they are andwho's, who's in control of
flying all of them.
I'm like so you don't know, butthey're like well, we can tell

(22:22):
you it's not foreign, it's notfrom other countries.
How do you know?
If you don't know, but they'relike, well, we can tell you it's
not foreign, it's not fromother countries, how do you?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
know if you don't know who's in control.
That's my whole thing.
Yeah, yeah, and as the day Iwatched the press conference, I
guess the what commander inchief or whatever the military
dude, he's just like ducking allthe questions, like you just
said.
That's what he's basically justsaying, like, oh well, we don't
really know what, we just knowit's a drone, but not don't know
who's controlling it orwhatever hey dude, you're the

(22:48):
freaking military, don't?
we have like restricted airspace?
You know I'm getting certainthings and stuff ain't supposed
to fly, sort of.
But anyway, if you have aforeign object and not just one,
because I know people havedrones and fly them around, but
what people are saying hundredsof them, them, I guess, in the
sky and your answer is well, wereally don't know what it is yet

(23:12):
.
But that doesn't settle wellwith me.
I think they're trying to saywell, we do know, it's not
foreign related.
You know a foreign country, butthat's all they'll say.
But other than that, we don'tknow who's doing it.
It's not foreign related.
You know a foreign country, butthat's all they'll say.
But other than that, we don'tknow who's doing it.
It's not the militarysupposedly.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Well, if it's not foreign related, then it's got
to be our government.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
I would say you don't really know, because they could
be lying.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Oh, of course.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well, of course we know that the government would
never lie to us.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
But there's other theories out there too, like I
guess the government iscontrolling these drones and
what they're looking for?
A nuclear warhead that wassupposedly sent here, yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
I heard about that too, tony.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, from North Korea Supposedly.
People snuck it here,disassembled it many different
ways and parts, and then theygot all of it here, they
assembled it and now it'ssetting off all the radioactive
stuff and that's why they haveall these drones out there
trying to figure out what it isand where it's coming from.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, so that's the first theory I heard.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I believe a little bit with the radiation thing
with Chris, Because I mean, lookat all these birds that are in
the area, man.
I was talking to Tony the otherday, man, Around this time of
the year, man, I normally don'tsee a lot of birds man, but I've
been seeing a hell of birds man, and it's fucking hella cold
outside bro.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
And we've said our whole life it's weird, for the
winter like the birds they'renot flying down south.
For the winter like the birds,they're not flying down south.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah but they're acting funny, though.
You know what I mean.
And then they said they hadthis fucking state of emergency
with the California governor.
He's talking about the birdsgot some kind of flu.
Now Did they say this shit likefour or five years ago, the
same governor About some birds?
Yeah, all of a sudden, thebirds are sick again.

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Man, what's really going on?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
What's your take on it, Zeb?
What do you think it is?
Why do you think this ishappening?

Speaker 5 (25:15):
I'm going with the nuclear theory because I heard
the same thing as Tony thatthere's a dirty bomb and people
are trying to put it togetherand they're searching for it.
They've got, they've gotequipment that can detect, I
guess, radioactive materials.
I think that's what they'reusing.
They'll never tell us that.

(25:35):
The government's never going totell people that.
It'll make people panic.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, it's better to say they try to hold a lot.
I guess I get it in a way,because if it's here, there's
nothing we can do about it.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
All King, John Un or whoever all they have to do is
press a button.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
I mean, yeah, a lot of things is to press a button
when you have that technology,when you have access to all that
.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
And obviously they always say they're not sure if
it's around DC or New York, butthese are the two places they're
always going to want to blow upfirst, which means everybody on
this podcast.
We could be gone soon, but yeahthey don't want to.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
They don't want to.
So what did y'all start Doesnuclear so-called bomb is in the
water.
It's the government.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
It's the government.
If it was people, it's like thedrone you control it.
So there's a signal beingtransmitted.
They can track that shit down,just like how they can hang your
cell phone.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
They would know you're flying the drone, but
does that explain why there wasdrones in the water?
Are they trying to say thisnuclear bomb is in the ocean?
Maybe?

Speaker 5 (26:44):
Maybe they might have thrown it off the ship like a
container.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I've never even known that drones could come out of
the water and just float rightin the air.
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Yeah, man, I didn't even know.
I mean, I'm pretty sure theycan make things waterproof, but
a lot of drones that you seepeople flying, man, they're not
fucking waterproof.
Take your drone in the water.
See what happened I bet you'regoing to fucking die.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
It's got electric on it to make it work.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
So how does it work in the water for these people?

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, they always say electric and water, don't,
don't mix.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
That's because it's us, it's military equipment.
They've got high-techtechnology man.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, what did we talk about on this show about a
year ago?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
All the underground bunkers that all the super
powerful and elites are building, right?
Yeah, so all of this could beleading up to.
They've already known all thisis going to happen and they've
been preparing for it.
That's why they have all theseunderground tunnels and bunkers
and everything for all thosesuper powerful, rich people.
So when it detonates, peoplelike us get wiped out which is
what population control and thenthey come out of those bunkers

(27:49):
afterwards and all that's leftis those elites to create their
whole new world again yeah, butusing nuclear weapons it would
ruin it because it would makethe place uninhabitable because
of the radioactive waste,nuclear fallout but I'm sure
that they already havetechnology for all of this to be

(28:09):
able to figure it out when theydo decide to come out of those
underground bunkers they've gotplans, they've been planning
this kind of stuff forever, sowe don't know what they're
capable of.
But I feel you, but you knowwhat I mean.
There's so much that we don'tknow.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yeah yeah man these drones could be putting out
diseases just over the top ofthe areas that you've been
seeing like a crop duster.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, man and we and it can be invisible, we won't
even know.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah, I mean, it's not funny there's a whole bunch
of people man, you're reallygonna start something way, but
no, this always says, man, they,they want to feel like they,
they are in control, and thecontrol is basically controlling

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us, keeping you in fear, livingin fear.
You know what I'm saying andthey do a good job of it,
because a lot of people listento what they fucking say, man,
and do what they say man.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
They control people with fear Lane.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
They use fear to control people.
Well, let me touch on an articlefrom the Associated Press.
It's titled Drone Detectors inNew Jersey have Found Little or
no Evidence of Wrongdoing.
The Governor of New Jersey saysfederal officials, including
Homeland Security AlandroMaracas I don't know how to say

(29:43):
it, I butchered that, but anywayhave reportedly said there are
no signs that any droneoperators have shown bad intent,
nor is there evidence offoreign involvement, and I quote
going on, it says there's noquestion that people are seeing
drones on Sunday.
But I want to assure theAmerican public that we are on

(30:05):
it.
We are working in closecoordination with state and
local authorities.
So then going on, it says theskeptics include president
donald trump, who suggestedmonday that the government know.
They know what is happening,our military knows and our
president knows and for somereason they want to keep people

(30:28):
in suspense.
Trump said he refused to saywhether he had been briefed on
the drone sightings.
So they're there, but, likewe've just said, the military,
nobody wants to basically giveany answers.
What the hell's going on?
They'll just say what they'renot.

(30:50):
We know for a fact they're notman, unmanned flights.
But they say it's suspectedthey're unmanned flights.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
So I believe Trump, he's telling the truth.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
I mean, for once I can agree with, for once, the
first time I ever agree with you.
I mean, yeah, he's right, he'slike the government, somebody
they know, which we just said weknow, they know.
So give us something.
What's going on?
My whole thing is we'resupposed to be this big,
powerful country and blah, blah,blah, and you know our airspace

(31:28):
and this, and that, well,you're letting all this, these
drones, fly around.
What is it?
What are they out there for?
I mean, to me it's just like oh, it's just people flying them
around, it's not regular people.
That's what?
To me, it's just like, oh, it'sjust people flying them around,
it's not regular people flyingthem.
That's what I'm saying butthat's just like, oh, it's
nothing to worry about, don'tworry about it, it's just people
having fun.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Regular people don't even have drones that big.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, I can agree with that.
I've never seen somebody with.
You know if they have, have one.
It's basically a toy, what youknow.
I mean a little small one.
It's not that big, but theysaid what?

Speaker 2 (32:01):
some of these things are huge yeah, they're like
their biggest helicopters andplanes.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Some of them I'm like people don't have those yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, you're right, it's all shady man.
It's all shady, it is man.
But I think they're preparingfor something crazy to happen
sooner than later.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Right.
So, like I say right now, I'mleaning towards Zeb.
Like we know, the government'sdefinitely involved.
They have to be.
They know what's going on andI'm kind of leaning towards with
Zeb Like they're looking forsomething.
They're using them drones, anuclear warhead, whatever it is.
They're looking them drones, anuclear war, whatever it is.
They're looking for somethingand they are lying to us.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
They're lying to us.
They know exactly what's goingon.
You can't tell me.
They don't know what thosedrones are in this country.
United States of America, andthere's drones flying around New
York City, basically, and wedon't know.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I'm not stupid.
With the technology we have,they have no clue who's
operating those drones.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah, man, I had an encounter last week, man, and I
thought it was a drone.
So I took my camera and Izoomed in on it and what I saw
through my camera of my iPhone?
It just looked like a symbol oflike an angel type face, but
didn't have no eyes, no nose, nomouth, obviously.

(33:23):
But the more I looked at thepicture, it reminded me of like
an orb.
You know what I mean.
You know the orb, they say likethe globe is divided into like
three sections by bands ofjewels and the three sections
represent like three continentsknown from the medieval times.

(33:44):
And that orb is like a sign ofpower.
And that's basically what Iencountered, man, because I
thought it was a drone.
But I never physically saw adrone through my actual picture.
So you think it was a UFO.
I mean, I don't know man.
People are saying that too, itcould be an angel.
Physically saw a drone throughmy actual picture.
So you think it was a UFO.
I mean, I don't know man.
People are saying that too, itcould be an angel.

(34:04):
It's just a sign of power.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, we never mentioned it.
Some people think it's alienactivity.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Me personally.
I truly don't think it's alienactivity Never know Independence
Day man Other dimensions, it'snot just other planets.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
There's other dimensions.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, you guys don't think that this could be another
country spying on us.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
That's my whole point .
It's like no, not really man.
The stuff that I'm trying toget at man, like with what I
encountered with man, I thinkit's just spirits coming back.
Man, oh, you're gettingspiritual on us now.
It's like spiritual type stuff,man, that's happening, man.
That that's what I mean.
You know, I don't want to getinto that because, like, our

(34:52):
topic isn't about spiritual andbiblical but it's about the
drones, that's what you think itis, so that's fine right, it's
possible yeah, man.
So I don't know.
Man.
I mean, I feel like it's likethe takeover moment of the world
.
Man like judgment day.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Is that what you're saying could be?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
man, I've also heard that people think that this is
all happening because somebody'strying to do something before
they allow Trump to actuallytake over on the 20th of January
.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah, you're right, you have another one, but I feel
like the Judgment Day typething is controlling the
population, though man you knowwhat I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, I think those people like Bill Gates and Elon
Musk, they're going to be herewhen all of us get killed if it
happens.
Like Bill Gates and Eli Musk,they're going to be here when
all of us get killed if ithappens, Because they have all
these underground bunkers.
That's why I'm like maybe it'sway more to it than we know, but
they've been mourning us, yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
And they have the knowledge and tools and fucking
time capsule blueprints to justkeep the world going, man, they
already know how to doeverything, man.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Oh yeah, that's a whole other other getting into
Judgment Day.
They say there's undergroundbunkers built.
They say there's over in Europeor Italy somewhere.
They've built bunkers on thehighest mountains in the world.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Judgment Day only comes from God.
It doesn't come from man.
Man can try to create it, butJudgment Day day, they're like a
whole nother topic like newworld order and everything.
Yeah but that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
It was to say god's not sending out his spirits but
that's that's interesting wayand I didn't expect you to go in
that direction, the spiritualdirection, to take all people
away from Earth man.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
I wasn't expecting that.
That's interesting.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
There's no way out, but God.
God takes us all out of here.
So you think it's little angelsflying around.
I think it's just spiritualangels sent possibly from God.
But you know, that's my belief,man.
You know, people don't have tobelieve everything that they
hear.
That's deep.
I wouldn't expect that.
I would do that, if you will.
This is only for entertainmentpurposes only, but I'm glad you

(37:05):
said that, wayne.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
People don't have to believe everything they hear,
which is why I get so baffledthat everybody gets so
brainwashed and believeseverything they see on fox, cnn
and abc and cbs news.
I'm like bro, they all say thesame thing on every station
because they're controlled bythe same elite powers exactly.
They brainwash you and the moreand more they say it, you're

(37:28):
going to believe it.
So people would have just saidthese are drones from north
korea and that's all they said.
The whole.
Everybody like, oh my god,north korea.
Or if they would have played,you know what I mean.
But they kept telling us it'sthe same thing.
But when they're like theydon't know, now everybody's like
, oh shit, what's going on?
Yep.
So now everybody's left to beup in the air on what they think

(37:48):
it is.
This is why we're speaking onit Exactly, yep.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
And speaking of angels man before the angels man
, before we switch into thisnext topic, I just want to say
rest in peace to one of myfavorite ball players of all
time, mr ricky henderson passedaway yesterday man, so sad, only
65 young man.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I that was one of my idols growing up.
I loved him and if it wasn'tfor ken griffey jr, I would have
started him as my centerfielder, but I start both of
them.
But anyway, we can move ondefinitely.
Rest in peace to one of thegreats.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
But that was the team back in the day, because they
had Jose Canseco and MarkMcGuire and Ricky Henderson.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Like that was a squad Yep and if you needed somebody
on the mound, mr Dennis Ackleshy.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yes, Ricky Henderson is one of the reasons why I
played baseball man.
Yeah, that's what I'm gettingat.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I just said this.
When I texted you all lastnight, I said my top three
players growing up.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Cal Ripley was one of them, then Don Mattingly, yep
and Ricky Henderson See, I payattention, big bro, love them.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Those three.
We're going to move on, though,because Chris got some
interesting information aboutUnitedHealthcare.
The CEO so.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Chris, take it away.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, so we waited a couple weeks, ladies and
gentlemen, to try to do a littlemore research and stuff.
But as y'all know, because I doreside here in New York the CEO
the CEO of UnitedHealthcare Wasmurdered, gunned down and it
was definitely plotted.
And the young man that did itis Luigi Mancione, who killed

(39:24):
him on the morning or thedaytime of December 4th in
Midtown, new York, manhattan.
He escaped in all black on abicycle and ran through Central
Park and they found him fivedays later in Altoona,
pennsylvania eating a Big Mac atMcDonald's.
Oh my Lord, like he was justchilling at McDonald's in

(39:45):
Altoona Pennsylvania.
But they brought him back uphere to New York because for
some reason, as we spoke aboutbefore all these high profile
so-called celebrities, he's nota celebrity, but he is.
Now.
They house him on this crazyran down prison here in Brooklyn
man, and it's weird.
But yeah, I'm not going to lie.
I don't really want to say I'magainst the dude, I'm not about

(40:09):
killing people either, but atthe end of the day, I'm
definitely against thehealthcare system as a whole in
this country and I can see whypeople would want to do stuff
like that.
He had back injuries, he wasn'tgetting the right help.
Obviously, if you don't havethe right insurance and this and
that, or have enough money, youdon't get the support and the
help you need, and that goes forevery one of us.
So I don't really know thewhole reason behind why he did

(40:31):
it, but it definitely is.
He's got people backing himright now because they're like,
well, it's health over wealth.
But obviously if you don't haveenough wealth, you can't get
the right health care, and hewas frustrated with it.
He knew what he was going to dowas going to be in New York.
He caught a bus from Atlanta toNew York, waited for him, shot
him in the back with a gun witha silencer on it, so nobody

(40:53):
heard him.
But obviously they seen himjust get gunned down and yeah,
are on this and nobody heardthem.
But obviously they seen andjust get gunned down and yeah,
they found him.
But, um, I want to know whaty'all's thoughts on that, about
the whole situation and, um,they're all also before we
before.
I ask you guys that my mainthing is they're calling this an
act of terrorism.
That was very yet it was justone man that was killed.

(41:16):
How is that an act of terrorism?
And because he's the CEO ofUnitedHealthcare and we're not
going to switch topics.
But when you talk aboutterrorism, joe Biden and
Netanyahu are murdering andkilling thousands of innocent
people every single day in Gaza,and that's not terrorism, it's
a whole new genocide.
But yet you want to call thiskilling of the CEO of

(41:36):
UnitedHealthcare, who we're noteven going to take name him
because it's just he's the ceoof united healthcare and that's
the reason it happened.
So it doesn't matter what thatperson's name was, it was
whoever was the ceo, was the,was the person they were going
to get well, zeb you, you saidit.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
What did you say?
Why they're saying it's an actof terrorism yeah, because of
because of who he is.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
If somebody kills me, is it an act of terrorism?
No, it's because of his status.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yep you're right.
Yeah, they're saying they'regoing to give him the death
penalty and this and that.
Yeah, but terrorism, that'sridiculous yeah, it is
ridiculous right.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yeah, it's like you say.
It's just a status thing, youknow, when it's a president or
whatever, and obviously a CEO ofa healthcare system.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
But yeah, he's the CEO of a corporation, like the
president that's the leader of acountry.
So I mean you can kind of saythat, but for a guy that's the
CEO of a business, how is thisterrorism?
Well, I mean what's up withthat?

Speaker 3 (42:40):
The health care system runs the country.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Yeah, that's basically what they're saying.
Basically, they're saying ifyou attack an insurance company,
you're attacking the UnitedStates.
Yeah, Terrorism.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
You're affecting everybody's pockets big time.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
They're affecting people's pockets by not covering
their medical bills.
That's how they're affectingpeople's pockets by not covering
their medical bills.
That's how they're affectingpeople's pockets, yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Well, the thing is like Chris touched on it too,
it's like there isn't really, orthe guy as it came out it said
well, you know why this, why hedid it, his motive, yeah, the
motive, yeah.
But obviously everybody rightnow already knows, you know it's
.
They think he did it justbecause he was probably denied

(43:23):
some health care.
You know something happened andjust resentment, you know, I
mean, against the insurancecompany.
So that's the only thing peoplecan suspect right now.
You know who knows he mighthave been denied health coverage
or something.
But yeah, like you say, nobodyreally knows what his motive was
.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Well, let's, let's take a vote real quick on this
call.
How many of you guys are veryhappy about your health coverage
and your health plan right now?

Speaker 4 (43:50):
I mean no one should be happy, I mean because you
never it should never get theservices that don't give me pay
for because, like it's likeevery paycheck that you get,
there's some kind of feededuction towards your health
care, right, and then you go tocertain places because you're
either sick or you need surgeryor something like that, and then

(44:12):
they say, oh well, we can onlycover 10 of this, you have to
cover the rest of it.
What are you talking about,motherfucker?
You've been taking money out ofmy account every two weeks.
Why are we denied that?
You know what I'm saying.
But to speak on what y'all wasjust talking about with the
shooting man.
So it was interesting manbecause, like I think he had the

(44:33):
numbers 286, was somewhereinside of his facility of his
home and I got to doing someresearch about the number 206.
And also on like TikTok orInstagram, that's his number of
followers 286.
So I looked up a Bible versethat is discussed in a video
titled Day 286, luke 11, aboutjesus's words to a lawyer at a

(44:58):
dinner party and in jesus wordshe says you make burdens
unnecessarily hard for somepeople and you refuse to offer
any help at all.
You're harsh and god is holdingyou responsible for what you
have done.
So these people basically thatcan offer help always refuses

(45:21):
you.
Man.
That's interesting.
Damn Wade, that's shit.
It's weird that this number 286was found in his presence of
his computer, inside of his home, and there was some words that
was written out, also engravedin something.
I couldn't remember what it was.
It could have been engraved inthe murder weapon, I believe it

(45:43):
was, but it's just interestingthat and this is who- got shot.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
The health care, the health care the number
represents.
But he refuses.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
That's what.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
I was going to say, basically not offering help.
You're there to provide aservice but yet you don't want
to give it.
Refuses.
Yeah, that's what I was gonnasay to some is like, basically
not offering help.
Like you, you're there toprovide a service but yet you
don't want to give it.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Yeah, right that's what health care and the
explanation behind all that injesus words are directed at the
self-righteousness who areconcerned with being clean on
the outside but are dead reallyon the inside.
And jesus said that God valueslove and justice and that people
should give to the poor andstop being greedy.

(46:22):
Oh, oh, it's deep man.
I mean, look into it, it's deep.
Luke 11.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I know Zeb's got something to say on that.
I mean my opinion, chris, toanswer what I think about
healthcare, I've always said itshould be free, it should, it
should be universal healthcare,but you should never be shot
down, refused Like if somebodyneeds a kidney, get them a
kidney.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
You know we all saw, which is why I love the movie
John Q.
They tell the whole truth inthere, while most of us can't
get any of that.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
So it's the movie John Q.
They tell the whole truth inthere, while most of us can't
get any of that.
It's really embezzlement ofmoney from all citizens that
takes benefits from the companythat they work for.
Man, because you're not gettingthe proper healthcare benefit
assistance that you need fromthe CEO of the companies, man,
it's more of like a scandal tome.
Man.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Especially when you're paying for it, wayne.
It's more of like a scandal tome, man, especially when you're
paying for it, wayne.
You're paying for it, youcontribute to it and your
employer people are paying forthis service and then you don't
get it.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Yeah, that's what pisses everybody out.
You're exactly right, it comesout of your paycheck or whatever
it's coming out of.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
Yeah, you're paying for this.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
The worst insurance I ever had was Chad I can't think
of the name.
Anyway, when I worked for thegovernment and had horrible
insurance, they was taking formy family every paycheck over
$300.
Out of my paycheck I'mcommuting.

(48:01):
It wasn't even worth it.
The money per hour looked great, but anyway, $300 to cover my
family, that's probably twice amonth.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
You're probably spending $600 a month.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
I got paid every two weeks there, so over like $600,
almost $700, you know when youtotal it up a month.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
It would be more now.
You'd be paying more now.
Trust me.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah, that was years ago, that about almost 10 years
ago.
But Jesus, but the bestinsurance I had was at.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
But of course, when you, you're we know, when you're
single, like you just coveryourself.
It's cheaper, it's like I payalmost 600 a month for my health
really do you have privatemedical, dental and vision
altogether.
Yeah, it's a lot.
It's like 300 every two weeks.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
And why are people getting denied man?
Wow, it makes no sense, no, itdoesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
But it does when we realize that all these people
are just fattening their pocketsand acting like they're doing
right, oh yeah, and that there'sa system, that why we got to
wait, and this and that no, likeWayne said, you need a liver
transplant, a heart transplant,anything as long as you got the
right match.
Get in there, him or her, andget this taken care of.
Life is about living, and we're, as a, as a society, not

(49:21):
helping each other live longerand and have have healthier
lives, because they don't care.
That's the truth.
The truth is, they just don'tcare.
They only care about taking themoney from people oh yeah,
you're, it's just a money racket.
Well, what do you guys thinkabout this, about the lawyer for
Luigi Mancione, who is the onethat killed Brian Thompson, the

(49:46):
CEO of the UnitedHealthcare?
His lawyer and Sean PuffyCombs' lawyer are married, but
wait, because here goes our.
Is that not weird?

Speaker 3 (49:59):
There's some conspiracy theories now coming
out about this ceo is theresomething else housed in this
brooklyn prison?

Speaker 2 (50:07):
like you know what I mean.
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (50:09):
what's really going on, yeah so I mean, what I've
seen is I saw one art, you know,supposedly, like I say, there's
more behind this shooting thanoh, he was just mad, he got
denied or you know whatever.
Everybody just thinks this iswhat it was why he shot and
killed this man.
But now it's getting deeper.
Okay, did he have skeletons inhis closet?

(50:33):
You know, like, was he intosome dirty shit, saying suppose
he had a tunnel in his home.
They found stuff in this tunnel, not coming out and saying what
they found yet.
And so it's like this guy hisname, what Chris, who shot and
murdered Luigi Mancione yeah,luigi Mancione said, you know,
is there more behind it?

(50:53):
Did he know something aboutthis guy?
Like he's doing some dirty shit.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, were there lawyers involved.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yeah, yeah I.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Could this be a bigger distraction and to take,
take the heat off of Puffy rightnow and and worrying about
whose name isn't at the parties,yeah, very good.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Good to take the heat off of them man, it's
interesting, man it is.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
It's one thing after another that keeps coming out to
just slide other things thatare the carpet, red carpet, man
and that happens all the time.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
It's crazy.
It is man it does all the damntime and we ain't afraid to
speak on it and tell how we feel.
But I'm pretty sure now there'slots of people out there that
are like, oh man, those brotherswith the pennant, they the
biggest conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
We just we throw them options out there, like hey,
we've heard this, we've heardthat, that's all we say.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
We don't throw options.
We just pay attention to what'sgoing on.
Got it?
We just throw it out there.
We just never let it go untilwe really get a legitimate
answer of why this happened anddid he get any time for this, or
we want to know the outcome,man.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
So we want feedback from y'all.
We want y'all's thoughts andopinions too, ladies and
gentlemen, we basically aretelling you guys, we don't know
the answers or the full reasonbehind the drones, as well as
the killing of the CEO ofUnitedHealthcare, so we're going
to move on and tell you what wedo know the answer to and one
of the GOATs from Virginia isMike Vick.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Bo, north Fork State baby.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Head coach.
Yes, sir, big shout out to MikeVick.
Way to get a job, azeb.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
Norfolk State.
Yes, sir Big shout out to MikeBig.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Where'd he get a job as of Norfolk State?
Yes, sir Head coach.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
He's from Newport News.
I mean it makes sense he'sgetting back to his area.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
He said that's why he chose them over Sacramento
State because he can go make adifference at home.
You know what I mean.
So he can start there.
He called Deion up andeverything, asked him his input
on and all that well, I wasgonna say I was like, is it?

Speaker 3 (53:05):
is all these colleges looking for the next deon
sanders now looking for?
Because you're hearing rumorsof ray lewis might get it?

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I don't want to hear nobody bashing mike vick when he
has a bad season first year.
Norfolk state has only had onewinning season in the last 10
years and that was a six andfive winning record.
So he's got his work cut out,yeah, but you know what I'm?

Speaker 3 (53:25):
saying Because people are talking about oh, now
they're looking for ex-NFLfootball players to be head
coaches, Now they're trying tofind the next Deion.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Elite football players, because Vic, ray, lewis
and Deion are some of thegreatest.
I mean hey.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
I want Ray Lewis to be my head coach.
I'd run through a wall for thatdude.
That dude is a motivator.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Yeah, I would love that I love watching like his.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
So I'll definitely say Mike Vic, I don't know, I've
never seen Coach, but we'll see.
Time will tell how Vic does.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
I'm just saying their team has only had one winning
record in the last 10 seasons.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
He's not going to turn it around next season.
It's going to take some work.
I guess he can't do anything.
The only way is up.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
But Deion coached at the HBCU.
Now what's that again?
What school?
Do you remember?
What school Deion coached atHBCU before he went to Colorado?
Yeah, jackson State.
They just won the nationalchampionship this past week.
Well, congrats, because heturned that whole program around
.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Yeah, he did.
I have a question.
I've been thinking whathappened to the running back he
had on Jackson State.
I can't remember his name,that's Jenty.
It wasn't Jenty, was it?
No way?
But I was thinking that theother day I was like supposedly
he had some stud running backand I'm like hold on, I haven't
heard nothing about it Becauseall you hear is Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
But was he an upperclassman, so maybe he
already graduated.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Maybe I just threw that out.
I couldn't remember the kid'sname.
So, because I remember, I thinkhe was like the number one
running back in the countryBecause everybody's saying, you
know why is he going to JacksonState.
I can't remember the kid's name, but anyway, yeah, yeah,
congrats to Michael Vick.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Maybe we'll go hit up a Norfolk State game?
Yeah, that'd be dope.
We'll have to get out there andcheck one out, man, we'll give
him about a year or two, why ayear or two?
Then his recruiting class willprobably start coming in in
about a year or two.
Once he gets there, he's notgoing to have a cruise that he
really wants to come there.
He'll have to take over whatwas there.
I did that's if you can getplayers to come.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
He also had his son.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
He had a son come along.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Why are we knocking his sons for being talented Like
, I'm just saying, the firstyear he made noise because he
got kids.
That's what I'm talking about,this run back I can't remember
his name that he recruited toJackson State Like he brung in
right out the gate?

Speaker 4 (55:54):
Yeah, but some of it was through transfer.
Yeah because you got thetransfer portal now.
So who's to say there's not acouple good players already at
Norfolk State waiting on him?
You know what I mean.
But he's definitely going tohave to build it up, man, and
it's good that he comes from aquarterback perspective, of a
mind.
He can help the quarterback outright away.
And then it's going to beinteresting who he brings on

(56:17):
with his coaching staff.
You know what I mean, becauseyou can bring whoever you want
in.
You know what.
I mean Because you can bringwhoever you want in.
You can kick whoever's alreadythere out.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
You know what?
I kind of think the opposite.
I mean I get what you're saying.
Yeah, he'll be great with thequarterback.
Because he played quarterbackRight, he should be a great, you
know, help quarterback.
But I always think the opposite.
I always think like I think aquarterback or former
quarterback would be a greatdefensive coordinator.
Because why?

(56:43):
Because, why not?
Because they know offenses Likeflip-flopping Right, like a
great inside linebacker maybe,but definitely a quarterback.
But it would be interestinglike, what's his role, though?

Speaker 4 (56:53):
also, tony, like we know he's the head coach, but we
know a lot of head coaches.
Let offensive coordinatorscoach.
Oh yeah, yeah, well, I do that.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
I did that when I coached football.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
He's the head coach of the offense.
From that perspective, likeDeion, he does it differently.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
You were my OC.
Remember yeah, deion he is thehead coach.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
He can oversee anything, overtake anything that
you call, but he lets hiscoaches coach for the most part.
You know what I mean For astaff you trust It'll be
interesting, man.
I'd like to see like a guy likePercy Harvin come along with
him, you know, to coach thereceivers.
He's from the 757 area, youknow.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
That's a good question.
Who's he going to bring on hisstaff Right?
Blacks or Colberts.
Yeah, because you mentionedthis, chris, like you're
basically a all-star staff.
Yeah, I can see him bringinghis brother on, but didn't his
brother get in some trouble?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Well, I was about to say that, Tony and Wayne.
I'm surprised now that Vic gotthat job, all those animal
people ain't coming at him.
Right, you know what I mean,because no lie.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Vic is going to have a squad full of dogs, yeah, but
he is no pun intended.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
I had to laugh.
Oh my God, he was going to havea team full of dogs eventually.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
But keeping it NBA real quick.
Shout out to the Dukes.
Jmu won their bowl gameyesterday.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Yes, sir, I noticed that I was keeping up with the
score on that.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
JMU stays nice man, their ex-coach and half of their
team went to Indiana.
They got handled pretty good byNotre Dame.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
Yeah, speaking of that, we'll touch it Big up to
him, though he got coached in ayear.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Yeah for Indiana.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
JMU all around.
Baby, big up to VA, man Two up,two down.
Yes, baby, Big up to VA, manTwo up, two down.
Yes sir, stay grinding.
Yes sir, so we're doing bigthings in the state of Virginia,
baby.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Don't sleep on VA, so Wade, moving on the end of the
show Moving on.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Y'all know what time it is.
Give me a little drum roll,please.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I can't do it that good.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
That is horrible.
What was that?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
that's.
That's how y'all know I ain'tused to being a drummer.
Y'all better go get jermainewalker and those guys that was
in the band we're a one lowbudget podcast yeah, where's the
sound effects?
Sound effects coming shortly.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
sound effects will be here shortly, man, probably
after the new year.
Okay, but anyway, to speak onthe parlay for this week, y'all
know your boy hit it again.
What's your record now?
The last two weeks?
Last two weeks, I'm 17-0.
Over the last three weeks, I'm26-1.
Lost one game in three weeks.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
So y'all better follow your man.
You're going to have your ownpage here pretty soon, like your
own TikTok following.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Yeah, but I'm going to start trying to get these
scores on.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
No lie, we're going to open up a studio and have
some nice new work andeverything.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Bro, before he gets into his picks, he doesn't even
place the bet.
He sounds like did you play.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
No man.
I get so busy man, I startcooking food for the game, man,
and then by the time I go to tryto put the parlay in shit, the
game's already started.
I'll be mad at myself, but I'mgoing to get this one.
I promise you all.
I'm going to get this one intoday.
All right, if you ride with me,you're going to die with me, If
not, we're going to fly.
Let's go get this money.

(01:00:21):
All right, let's go.
We got the Arizona Cardinalsover the Panthers.
We got Atlanta over the NewYork Giants.
We got the Lions over the Bears.
Taking the Colts over theTitans, I'm taking the Rams over
the Jets.
I don't want to do this, butI'm taking the Eagles over my
commanders.
I think it's going to be a goodgame, but I think they're going

(01:00:41):
to get us by like 7 to 10points.
Then I'm going to takeCincinnati over Cleveland,
minnesota over Seattle.
We're going to take the Jagsover Vegas.
We're going to take Green Bayover New Orleans, we're going to
take Tampa over Dallas and thenwe're going to take the Bills
over the Patriots.
So, a bigger parlay this week.

(01:01:04):
Usually I've been doing eightto nine legs, but we're going to
do a little big this weekbecause we're trying to get that
payout.
You did 12.
Yes, sir.
So if you want to put thatthing in, go ahead and put that
in.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
You're pushing your luck now.
It's like, oh, I got like sevenor eight.
I'm going to say you're pushingyour luck now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
It's like oh, I got like seven or eight, I'm going
to push it to 15 games.
Hey, it's Christmas time, man,I'm trying to get some money
back into people's pocket man.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
There's actually games on Christmas Day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
Speaking of that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
If you're listening for the NFL, I won't be watching
that because the NBA runsChristmas.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
I mean that's good, it's close to the playoffs for
football.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Do you guys know?

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
what network it's on Netflix?
It's on Netflix, so if youain't got Netflix, you can't
watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
That's been a lot, Even like that first game.
Yesterday I was at work and Iget it.
It's all for money and stuff,Like we're talking about.
Everything is about the money,but to have these games on
Peacock and stuff.
Most people don't got all thesethings, so how do they?
And they put all ratings aredown.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Well, because you're showing shit on Peacock, disney
and Netflix.
This man is another form ofcontrol.
It's another form of control.
You better go buy the devicethat's got it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
They want us to get every single one of those
networks just to be able towatch it.
Yep, it's wild.
Remember back in the day, if wedidn't have cbs and abc, we
couldn't watch it because espnwasn't on a regular tv and stuff
.
But now it's like oh and I.
When I first heard about thegame, somebody was like it's on
peacock.
I'm like what the hell is that?
but, I know now, but I'm justlike dog, like really what they

(01:02:38):
want all of our monies forsubscriptions and everything
else you have to have have gameson what?

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
and you know, peacock um amazon prime, they have
games certain get that netflixdude nfl network.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
You got to have the nfl network but all these
streaming apps.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
So it's like dude and there's no bundles or nothing
you can get to like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Get all of it, yeah, but some of these streaming apps
, though it's poor quality, man,so they're ripping you off in a
way, man.
Sometimes Netflix was horribleduring the Tyson fight.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Remember Tyson and Paul oh my God, when they had
that on there live.
So let's see how this NFL gamego being on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
I'm not watching no games on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Well, I'm just saying , you know, when it happened,
like the streaming.
So, like Wade said, is it goingto be real bad?
Because everybody said thatafter the Tyson-Paul fight they
were like man, they better fixthat issue with their streaming,
you know, because it wasfreezing up and people could,
you know, get on and blah, blah,blah.
So they better fix that issuewhen them NFL games come around.
So we'll see how it goes.

(01:03:42):
But all right, man, I meanWayne, I hope you go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
What 12-0 today I'm going 12-0, man, so go put that
parlay in.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
I'm putting it in right now, as we speak.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
All right, what y'all got going on for the holiday
Shopping.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
For the holiday?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I don't think he's shopping on Christmas Day Get my
shopping done today and then weeat baby, I hang out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
It'll be close family .

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Jason's going to be in.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Oregon.
Nah, he's not coming home, soit'll just be the fam.
Yes, sir, and open up themgifts and eat ham.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
All my brothers better log into that parlay, All
right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
I'm about to do it once we get off here Everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
have a safe and blessed Sunday from your boy
Rush.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Yep, everybody have a great weekend, great show
everybody and guys hit us up onFacebook, youtube subscribe.
We have a YouTube channel now.
We started going live herepretty soon.
We keep talking.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
And it's free, just hit the subscribe button.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Yep, that's it.
It's free to subscribe, that'sit.
So Chris is right, you know,got tons of followers.
How many followers we got onFacebook Like 700, almost Turn
that into being a YouTubesubscriber.
You know we have 16 right now,I believe.
Yeah, last time I checked.
So you know, very cool, andthanks for you know the 16 new

(01:05:11):
app subscribers.
Like Chris said, it's just theclick of a button, you ain't got
to pay nothing.
Yeah, support your localpodcast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Yeah, yeah, before we go, shout out to our sponsor
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Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
It's what America runs on yep, me and Wayne Dunkin
every morning.
Yes, sir, alright guys, so itwas fun and we'll see everybody.
Well, hopefully, on Wednesday,that's Christmas day good luck.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
Oh yeah, we still coming to them live on Wednesday
.
That's Christmas Day.
Good luck, oh yeah, we stillcoming to them live on Wednesday
.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
We got a Christmas Day special coming ahead and I
definitely will get the parlaysin, Sir, when they get back here
.
Win by Yamba.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Good luck on Christmas.
So Merry Christmas everybody.
We'll get to our shoot.
We'll have to do it on Mondayor something which is tomorrow
For sure.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
We're coming to y'all on Christmas man People only do
presents and stuff like that inthe morning man Cut the crap
man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I'm off Zeb any final words, brother.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
Merry Christmas everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Happy New Year.
You guys.
Go ahead, put on Home Alone Elf, whatever y'all like to watch
for Christmas.
Man, make sure it's all aboutthem kids and them smiles.
Man, seeing your loved ones.
Get out there and enjoy Y'allbetter.
Have got on to Wayne's ParlayNow.
Help us do some research andhelp us with some input on the

(01:06:43):
show how we did and what youguys think about the drones and
the killing of the CEO of Unitedhealthcare and everything else,
cause you guys are too quiet.
You got some of you guys listenbut don't say anything.
Not even you guys suck or justtell us something, right All
right, yeah, chris, just summedit up everybody so yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Merry Christmas everybody.
If you don't hear from usbefore then, have a great
holiday.
We'll see everybody next Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Peace Ain't never been bliss.
Stand up and be heard.
We, the new activists, brotherswith a pain, let the convo
begin.
You know communication key, butthen you must comprehend.
Preach B-W-O, let your voicesbe heard.
We enlightened by the truth,and now we spreading the word.
How do we learn to live when weconditioned to die?

(01:07:38):
Most people fail before theystart because they don't ever
try.
Man, they told us we wasworthless.
We believed in a lie.
Outro Music.