December 8, 2024 • 52 mins
Can a high school running back really change the course of a game with a record-breaking performance? Join us as we celebrate the thrilling highs of the high school football playoffs, where teams like Strasburg and Graham are gearing up for the Class 2 state final while Essex and Grayson County prepare for a fierce matchup in Class 1. We highlight the close call for Kettle Run in Class 3 and the much-anticipated clash between Phoebus and Varina in Class 4. The future of Virginia high school football looks brighter than ever, and we dive right into it with shoutouts and predictions.
Shifting our focus to the courts, we dissect recent high school basketball games, with Skyline's impressive win against Clarke County taking center stage. Wayne offers a candid take on both teams, pointing out areas for growth and celebrating standout performances, including contributions from players like Ahsan Caison. We explore James Wood's early challenges under new coach Ben Bates and the potential shift he might bring. The conversation unfolds with insights into Loudoun Valley's triumph, Meridian's surprising show against Spotswood, and what lies ahead for teams like Handley.
The excitement doesn't stop there. We spotlight Tyrese Woodgett's astonishing 605-yard, seven-touchdown game, and celebrate the undefeated start for Skyline's boys' basketball team alongside the Handley girls' team, led by young star Reagan Edsel. As we touch on the Heisman Trophy race, Ashton Jeanty and Travis Hunter emerge as prime contenders, each offering their unique flair. We cap off with a powerful call to action, urging listeners to engage in community efforts and activism, reminding them of our shared responsibility to foster change.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
I was ready, bro, there's a hindrance Silence is
cassette, so let your voices beheard.
Man, we brothers with opinions.
Now we spreading the word.
Bringing light to the darkRevolution is our art.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Man.
A lot of people talk, but theyain't never walked apart.
Gotta shine a light on povertyand fight against injustice and
always speak the truth when theenemy's on the line.
What's up?
Ladies and gentlemen, welcomeback to the BWO, the only
podcast y'all really need totune into on Sundays, sitting
here with my brother Wayne andmy brother Tony Y'all know where
Zeb's at on the clock gettingthat bread.
(00:51):
Anyway, man, we're going tokeep it short and sweet.
This week.
We're going to run down a bunchof scores from the high school
football playoffs and everybodyhitting to either the semis or
the championship games, and thenwe're going to slide on over to
our favorite sport.
At least me and wayne's I can'tspeak for my brother tony.
I think he liked football more,but his son is one of the best
players in the state mrchristian dinges and haley
(01:12):
looking real smooth right now,beating teams by 75 80 points,
taking teams on from bigger,bigger divisions like hugo and I
, and putting it on themyesterday.
So let's get on into thesescores with my brother Tony.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Well, chris, first off I'll say I love all sports.
I love football, basketball.
Come on man, I coach basketball.
I love all sports.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, what's the water polo scores?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Give me a second.
I'll get that by next week.
All right, we'll start off andcongratulate a lot of these area
teams because they made thestate finals, the VHSL state
finals.
So you had Strasburg defeatPocosin 14-13, and Graham
(01:54):
defeated Glenvar 28-24.
So those two will meet up inthe Class 2 state title.
So congrats to Strasburg,congratulations boys.
That's huge.
We'll speak on class two.
Real quick, didn't Central makestates last year and play
(02:14):
Graham in the state final?
Or was it the semifinal?
I can't remember Central, outof Woodstock, I believe.
So I want to say, yes, I can'tremember, I don't.
Yes, I can't remember, butmaybe they lost in the semifinal
.
So anyway, moving on, we'llspeak on class one.
(02:35):
The state final will be Essexand Grayson County.
So those two games will beplayed at Salem University.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'll be honest as much as I know about Virginia
man, I know Essex.
I've never heard of GraysonCounty.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, they're class one man who knows where they're
from.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Grayson County.
Yep, there you go.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I don't know where Grayson is, but hey, congrats to
them.
So class one and twochampionships will be played at
Salem University.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Definitely going for the Rams Yep.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
We got to root local.
Now your Kettle Run won by onepoint.
They squeaked by and made thestate championship in the class
three and they will be playingChris's Liberty Christian.
He's all about LibertyChristian.
I think that's nice.
We'll see.
Kettle Run is the team thatwho's all about.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Liberty Christian.
I think they're nice.
We'll see Petal runs, the teamthat whooped all of our area
schools, so it'd be better forme I'm going for them To answer
your question too.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Tony Central did beat Graham.
They lost to Graham 34-7 in theClass 2 state championship
final.
Just to correct you on that.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, I just wasn't sure.
No, no, no, I mean just thesemifinal or the final.
Yeah, so yeah.
But hey, that's two local teamsback to back making states,
right, yeah, so that's goodstuff.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And I'm pretty sure they're in the same district.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, they are yeah.
And so now moving on class four, right?
Yeah, you have Phoebus versusVerena.
Phoebus, portia Rando gotdemolished 34 to nothing against
Phoebus.
They've won what five statetitles in a row?
Class 4, I believe.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, they might as well.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Just call them Phoebus Community College, right
?
So Verena, we'll see Ver.
Phoebus Community College,right?
So Verena, we'll see if Verenagives them a game.
I feel they I don't knowPhoebus, shout out to.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Sharando for making it there, yeah.
A couple of years from now, allthose kids at Sharando will be
like oh, we played against himand him, and him, and they all
go on to Clemson and then thenext thing you know, they're
playing for the Jets and theCowgirls.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah, we definitely want to give a shout out to
Shred.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Hey, I know a lot of kids.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Wayne's coached me and him coached a few of them
kids.
Hunter Rashford you know heplayed for us and you know BB,
and you know there's some goodkids over there at Shred.
They're good football playersso I'm sure they've played them
hard.
They made it that far, to thestate semifinals.
(05:09):
Congrats to them.
They're defending districtchamps and regional champs,
coming back next year.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I'd like to go check out Phoebus next year, man.
We could you want to go to thegame?
Over these past three or fouryears, man, he's just been
blowing the fuck out ofeverybody.
Man, like I really want to seethis firsthand.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I believe, they was on.
I'll move on.
I believe Phoebus was on ESPNone time, like they were a game
of the week because you knowthey show high school football.
They were on ESPN againstsomebody.
I want to say they were.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I mean, they've got to have a well rounded group of
coaches out there, man, becausethey're doing this year in and
year out.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, so congrats to them too.
So the Class 3 and 4championships, which again will
be Kettle Run versus Liberty,christian Class 3 and Phoebus
versus Redder, class 4, will beat Liberty.
University where those twogames will be.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'm not going to lie.
I got to shout out Kettle Runman because I'm surprised their
whole team is white.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Except the Tapscots.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Funny gesture.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I like it.
I've seen their picture and I'mlike these dudes is the ones
that smoke and everybody.
Dude dude hey, I mean, shout it.
I've seen their picture and I'mlike these dudes is the ones
that smoke and everybody.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Dude.
Hey, I mean, shout out, theygot a good program.
I mean, they're another schoolthat has a hell of a football
program and they have a system.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
They do their damn thing year in and year out I
don't think the ethnic hasanything to do with it man,
fundamentals and IQ.
If you have that man you canbeat anybody you want man.
It was a good little funny jokethere.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Moving on to Class 5 and 6, state finals.
You have in Class 5, mauryversus Briar Woods in Class 5,
and then Oscar Smith versusJames Madison in high school,
and those games will be playedat JMU right down the road.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
James Madison playing at James Madison.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Home field advantage.
Where is that?
6a school, James Madison.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Good question.
I want to say it's down near,like Waynesboro area.
We don't have 6A schools inthat area.
No, no, no, I'm totally wrong.
I think it's Vienna, vienna,virginia, vienna.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So that's.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Northern Virginia.
I was thinking of somethingelse.
I can't think of a high schoolthat's down there.
It was like James Monroe.
James Monroe, oh yeah, that'sprobably who you're thinking of.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But I think James Monroe is like class two.
There was Strollberg in it, Ithink.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Or.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I'm thinking no, there is another James Madison.
Is it In Monroe?
Yeah, I believe in class two.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's because those are the first presidents of this
country.
You know they're all fromVirginia, so they probably got a
bunch of schools.
They got schools Just like wementioned last week.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
They got high schools , elementary.
How many Thomas Jeffersons arethere?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know what's crazy is?
There's only one, georgeWashington, and that's in
Danville.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That's the only George Washington school, are
you sure I that's the only.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
George Washington school, are you sure?
I don't know of any others.
I've never heard of themthroughout the whole time we've
been growing up till now.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I mean you got George Washington University in
Georgetown.
Yeah, those are in DC, but asfar as like a high school or
middle school or something likethat, that's probably the only
one that you've heard of.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Right.
The only ones we're going foris who?
Kettle Run and Strasburg Kettle.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Run Strasburg and.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah Kettle Run and Strasburg.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Because we didn't get over to our state limit boys,
Martinsburg and Spring MillsExactly.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
That was just the Virginia scores.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Oh, shoot my bad.
Well, I do know Martinsburg wonby one point by one point by
one point Over Highlander.
I said Was that 35?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Highlander?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I believe it was Highlander 35 to 34, so they
squeaked by.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And then Spring Mills beat Hurricane 49-7.
Yeah, you got yep there you goWayne's on it.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
He's helping me out over here this morning.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So are they both in the state semis now.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
No, no, no.
I think that's no, because theystarted behind.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Remember, they started their playoffs a week
later.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, and all of Virginia is going to state
championships.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Right so.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
West Virginia should be state semis.
They're in the semis right now,man I wish I could go to that
Martinsburg-Spring Mills statechampionship game.
That's going to be lit if theyboth make it Right.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
If they do, we have to go.
Who Spring?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Mills and Martinsburg .
Yeah, if they're in there, hellyeah, I'm down.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
That That'd be fire, I'm down.
So congrats to all these youngmen, congrats to the coaches,
everybody making it as far asthey have.
That's a big accomplishment.
Like Chris said, that'ssomething these kids can talk
about for years making mistakeslike that.
So now, moving on, basketballseason has started, everybody,
(10:24):
and we have some basketballscores.
And John Hanley won Fridaynight 97-18 over Princeville,
and we'll get back to that.
We'll talk about that a littlebit, because I was telling Wayne
, people always want to postlike oh why are you running the
score up?
And blah, blah, blah, but we'lltalk about that in a minute.
(10:44):
So then yesterday they playedagain and they played Huguenot,
huguenot, huguenot.
It went 75-49, that one.
So Haley is 2-0, and Chris saysthey're ranked number one in
the state for some reason, Idon't know how.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I think they're number two.
I think they have Hamptonnumber one and Hanley number two
.
Well, they're class, though, toclarify that.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, 4-8.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
They're not going to be ranked with Oak Hill and Paul
, the six of them.
But I ain't going to lie man, Igot to day.
He says he will be, but he'sbusy Because I ain't never in my
life thought I would see DwightHoward, gilbert Arenas and Matt
Barnes shouting out Hanley,that was lit.
Yeah, they showed that video atthe game yesterday.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, they showed that video at the game.
Yep, that was pretty cool howthey did that.
You know the kids got a kickout of that.
In fact, matt Barnes andGilbert Arenas Shout out to the
family.
That was pretty cool.
Darian is a producer on alltheir podcasts.
(11:54):
That's why he has his own.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I think he has a lot of followers now man.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
He is the producer for all those big podcasts, all
the smoke and everything that'slit well, he is the uh.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
He has his own media company entirely.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Media is his media entirely nba or entirely nba
media or something like that.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It just says not on this, but you could be right.
It could be entirely nba.
But yeah, we should get Darrenon the show.
Reach out to get him on.
So it seems like he's doing bigthings.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, my son might be able to reach out to him.
Maybe we can get a littlepointers from him on how to
continue on with our success.
Yeah, big up to Darren, though.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So you went to the Skyline game.
Who won that?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
That was Friday.
Yeah, that was a blowout man.
Clark County, they suck, butSkyline's got some work to do.
I hate to put it like that.
They're terrible, Wade is veryblunt.
You know me, man, I'm just abrother with my own opinion, but
that's what I saw with my owneyes, making me cough Skyline.
(13:03):
They got some players thatshould come off the bench and
contribute to the team.
It's not a good rotation ofplayers that the coaches got
going on out there.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, I can give you another score the other night
because Clark County playedJames Wood and guess who won.
Who won that?
Clark County?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
James Wood must be terrible, ben Bates, because I
didn't see anything exciting outof Clark County.
James Wood must be terrible,ben Bates I didn't see anything
exciting out of Clark County.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
We love Ben Bates, but, man, he's got some work to
do.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, it's his first year.
They lost last night, oryesterday I think, to Loudoun
Valley About one, did they?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
really.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I think Loudoun County is the power.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
They had to play Loudoun County Because Loudoun
Valley played and handledInflation last night.
So then they lost.
Think Loudoun County is thepower.
They had to play Loudoun Countybecause Loudoun Valley played
and handled it informationallast night.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So then they lost to Loudoun County yeah because I'm
like one of them in school.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, is the one that's the powerhouse in
basketball.
But yeah, Ben Bates, I feelwe'd love to get him on the show
, but I feel he'll change theculture.
At James Wood They'll playtough.
I'll, at you, say that.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It's not a good start , but we'll see.
You're going to come on theshow and be like don't be
bashing on Clark County no, thatwould be more my wife.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, just what I saw, man.
I mean the poor kids, they'renot good.
I saw maybe two guys out therethat you know you might have
been able to do something withthem, man, but the rest of the
team, they just got to fall inin the right place, man, because
they're I don't know, they'rejust hanging off the edge right
now.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
How'd Burks Payson?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
and Ford.
Look for Skyline Burks comingout of football transition
offensively.
I would say a little rusty, gotto get his feet under him.
His feet work, his fatiguelevel, I mean that's all there.
Bright side that I saw overthere was Ahsan, number 10.
He causes havoc top of thepress.
He almost plays like your son,tony.
(14:56):
They got him at the top of thepress.
He's pretty long, he's quick,he's agile.
He likes to cause havoc.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He was in our event, right, chris?
Yeah, that's good to see himout there too, because he got
hurt bad in football, oh yeah.
So that's good to see he'salready back for basketball, and
they were missing another keyplayer in Andre Ford.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I think he had some wisdom teeth pulled, so he's
going to be out for like atleast three games.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So they were missing one of their bigs, yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
But it was a cakewalk .
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I think they beat about like almost 30, 32 points
or something like that.
Wow, well, they get to playhandling twice this year.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
so that'll be fun.
Yeah, there should be.
It'll be interesting becauseright now, if they had to play
Hanley's, Hanley would probablybeat Skyline.
That's my belief, because I'veseen Skyline already play and
I've already seen Hadley play.
They probably run him out thegym, to be honest.
Right, but once they get alltheir players and get a little
chemistry going I mean, whoknows, you know how it is once
you get midway through theseason and deep towards the
(15:55):
playoffs, like basketball startsto change.
You know what I'm sayingBecause a lot of those kids
played football.
So the transition you've got toflip it over.
If I came off the footballfield and take a jump shot, it's
probably going to go over thetop of the back.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I'm just saying How's Chirando doing basketball?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I haven't even seen any of their scores yet, I don't
even know if they've played yet.
But let me say these real quickfrom the showcase yesterday,
meridian which is a surpriseMeridian must be good.
I have no clue, but they beatSpotswood with star Cam Pacheco
on Spotswood 64-49, after CamPacheco just came off a 40-point
game the night before.
(16:34):
Because you said who?
Monticello?
Yeah, right, so now I thinkSpotswood is one and one with
that loss.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Cam was first team off state last year, wasn't he,
I believe so he's probably goingto be player of the year this
year, unless Will, christian andthem can have something to say
about that.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
And then Loudon Valley defeated Western
Albemarle 48 to 44.
So that's two good schoolsgoing at it there.
Western Albemarle is alwaysreal and we know Loudon.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Valley do.
Does Hamlet play Spotswood?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, chris just said they play them twice.
So when do they play them?
They play.
You got to give me a fullschedule.
Of Mark it on your calendar,everyone.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
They played them last year.
They played.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Spotswood.
The first is Spotswood hastheir own tournament or showcase
.
That'll be December 28ththrough the 30th.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
That Hanley plays there.
Yes, do you know if they playSpotswood?
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
But I'm sure they probably will, and then they
play them later on, I believe.
Where is it at?
I'm sure they play them twice.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, if they play them twice.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I'm not sure for both of those, oh, maybe it's just
that I don't think they playthem twice.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, they don't.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Division conference.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, yeah, they don't.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They'll play Skyline twice, but they won't play that
team twice, Like they won't playHuguenot again or Brentsville
again.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Right, If they play them twice you'll probably see
them in the playoffs.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be that samething.
No, not Spotswood.
Spotswood's 3A.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Oh, they're 3A.
Yeah, wayne, basketball's all.
All the divisions are crazy.
From when we went to school,everything's all mismatched.
I know, man, I got to get up topar with this.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, it's like Skyline, skyline.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Skyline's what 3A too .
Speaker 2 (18:23):
They're 3A in football but 4A in basketball.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, that's different because we just went
to the game.
They're 3A in football and thenbasketball they're like 4A,
like Chris said.
Are you sure?
Yeah, there's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Some colleges are like that and I'm like that's
weird.
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I get that.
I mean, yeah, I don't know howthey can do that when they go by
popular.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I think Zach said that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
No, I think Skyline is not Y'all making me look this
up now.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
But they're in the same district, even though
they're 3A and then 4A.
But that's so weird, man, wedidn't have that stuff back in
the day, right.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
So basketball they are.
To answer that question.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen, they should be
the same.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That's so weird.
It's still the same amount ofkids in the school.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I got a fun stat for everybody at the end of the show
, so stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
What about Millbrook?
Millbrook didn't play.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Not that I know of.
I haven't heard anything.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's where the Winchester Star and Northern
Virginia Daily come in handy.
Oh, hold on.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
No, no, no, I'm sorry Millbrook did play.
They lost by like 30 or 40,.
Whoever they played the boysyeah the boys basketball team I
don't remember who they played.
The girls got beat prettyhandily yeah they, I'll find it,
but y'all move on, talk aboutbasketball.
(19:57):
Nah, I'm gonna give everybody afun stat.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I'll give you.
Go ahead, get the fun stat.
The fun stat.
Since you know we was talkinghigh school football playoffs
and all that, we'll jump up outof our state for just a quick
second man.
I wanna give a shout out toTyrese Woodgate.
He's a senior running back atCoffey out of Georgia High
School man.
So Friday night this kid had605 yards, seven touchdowns on
(20:25):
19 carries.
So every carry that he had was50 yards or longer.
He set a single game rushingrecord on friday night was 605,
seven touchdowns and 19 carriesrecord.
I'm not sure if it's a nationalrecord, but I do know it's the
georgia high school footballall-time record and you know
(20:46):
there's a lot of good runningbacks come out of georgia.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Is that kid going to georgia?
Alabama, uh, that I have, isthat?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
kid going to Georgia or Alabama?
That I have no clue.
He's going to one which top.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Or Oregon, but he's going somewhere.
He's from Coffey High School,5A out of Georgia.
So big ups to that guy man.
Yeah, that's wild.
Every time he touched a ball on19 carries right.
Every time he touched it it was50 yards or a longer run.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah it was just a touchdown.
Every time he touched prettymuch.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Half the time almost.
Yeah, A little more.
Yeah, I mean a little less.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
So, chris, to answer your question about Millbrook,
they are 0-2, okay.
Millbrook, they are 0-2, okay.
And if my phone stops acting up, sharando, I looked up.
They don't have the scoreposted, but Millbrook lost the
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broad run 69-33, and they lostthe skyline 56-54.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So that's Millbrook's basketball with old.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Eric Green leaving the helm.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
He coaches the boys.
Yeah, he coaches the boys now,yeah, he keeps switching.
Then he wasn't in girls for along time he had them dominating
.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, he left the girls because the varsity boys
position opened up and this ishis second year.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So Skyline's undefeated right now.
Yeah, they're 2-0 right here.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
And then shout-out to the Hanley girls.
I can't forget it, they're 3-0.
They won by three yesterday,right, yeah, I believe.
So yeah, over Hampshire County.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
How'd their young star do?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Oh, I'm not sure.
I'm just going to Providence.
I didn't make it in time forthe girls game.
The girls played right beforethe guys.
I was there for the night game.
I just had a lot going onyesterday, so I wish I could
have caught the whole tournament, because that tournament
started at 2 pm.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah it started.
Yeah, she's already gettingbig-time D1 scholarship offers.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I think she already had a visit to Providence, I
believe right, yeah, that's oneof the schools and she's only a
junior Right, and where's herolder sister?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I'm not sure she went somewhere.
Yeah, she went somewhere.
I'll check that out.
At a high level.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
But shout out to the girls.
You know the girls shoulddefinitely do some damage again.
You know girls program shoulddefinitely make some noise again
.
This year.
I think they have four out oftheir five starters returned on
their team for the girlsbasketball team.
So they're loaded.
So shout out to them.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
The girl that still plays at Hanley.
Her name is Regan Regan ReganEdsel she.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Regan Regan Edsel, she's a junior Regan Edsel,
she's a junior.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
What was her sister's name, though?
I?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
can't remember her sister's name.
Can't remember it.
I'm bad with names, man, justreal bad so who was the better?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's Corin or Corinne , corinne, corinne, it's real
bad.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
So who was the better , it's Corrin or Corrin, corrin,
corrin, yep, corrin, corrin,corrin, yep.
You're right, there you go.
How do you spell it?
Good job, chris.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
C-O-R-I-N.
Yep.
C-o-r-i-n.
She goes to Shepherd.
She goes to Shepherd outessential.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, so way, in your opinion.
I'll start with you who winsthe district basketball?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
yeah, our district, and I'm gonna look so far, early
in the season, just dating offof what I've seen on paper and
last year, I'm going, I can't, Ican't go against it, man, I'm
going with the handy judges, man, to win the district, you,
homer.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
That wouldn't be anything wrong.
They went to states the lasttwo years and those kids are all
back and they're onlysophomores and juniors.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
But I just like what they do, like they play at all
these invitationals, they getthemselves ready for the season
to dominate their actualdistrict and then the
competition comes once they hitthat playoff room.
You know what I'm saying.
So if they can get over thatplayoff hump, I mean sky's the
limit to these kids, man.
They can win states man.
But you got to play together.
You got to keep a solidrotation of players throughout
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the game, man, like what I sawlast night, it was just a
mixture of maybe like sixplayers and I think that Haley's
got about three or four playersthat can come off that bench
and contribute right away oncethey enter the game, just for
two, three, four minutes, justto give those key players a
break throughout the game.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
So, that being said, how did the team that knocked
Hanley out do Charlottesvilleman?
Chris, you're doing the mostCharlottesville.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Because you've got to keep up with those, those
schools.
That's the team that knocked.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Hanley out and they beat the Hanley girls but let me
educate you on this though.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
So in that game I don't ever want to blame nothing
on refs, but the fouldifferential was way off.
It was lopsided.
I believe Hanley had like 28fouls on him or some crap and
Charlottesville only had likeseven or eight.
So I think the refs had a lotto do with that game.
But the kids still played toughand almost pulled that game out
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.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Look so to answer y'all's question, I'm looking up
the basketball, our district,northwestern, and you guys are
right, skyline is in ourdistrict.
Yeah, or region I should say.
So you got Skyline Liberty,hanley, falkier, jameswood,
warren County, millbrook,brentsville, kettle Run,
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manassas Park, meridian andSharando.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
So Meridian's in y'all's district.
So why don't you know anythingabout Meridian?
And they beat Spotswood lastnight.
Where is Meridian's in y'all'sdistrict?
So why don't you know anythingabout Meridian?
And they beat Spotswood lastnight.
Where is Meridian?
It's got to be in Loudoun.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
County.
Yeah, it's in Loudoun.
We've scrimmaged them or playedthem before a year.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, they got to be somewhere close for them to be.
In your region there's some,yeah, interesting man.
I mean, when I played Iremember broad run parkview,
manassas park, osborne, likewhere them schools at man,
they're not you, just inbrinsville yeah in our.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, they're in our.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I wouldn't think they are.
They'd seem like they're likewrapping hand at clark county
kind of school.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I just looked it up, that's all the schools in our
region.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, yeah, but Brentsville, where's Brentsville
?
That's out of county, right,it's in.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Brentsville.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Virginia.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
In Brentsville oh.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
But I mean, what's the county?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Brentsville has.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
But what's the county there?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I'm not sure.
Look, I can only do one thingat a time, guys.
Meridian is from Falls Church,Falls Church, yeah, and then of
course, their record right nowthey're, I believe, 2-0.
Because the season just started, yeah, so they beat whoever
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Lewis is, Lewis High School.
They won 82-46.
And then, of course, they wonyesterday against Spotswood.
But it's funny they don't havethem officially on their
schedule.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Brentsville is out of Prince William County.
Okay.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
So another Virginia school.
It's not too far away, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I mean, yeah, that's probably why they're in your
region and it's funny, man, wewouldn't play forest church and
none of those schools back inthe day.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Oh, hell, no, man, they would have.
Man, one of the toughestschools that we played back in
the day.
Chris knows this, because chrisand I we played together and
that was part of you, man, part.
Parkview was a powerhouse backin the day and you don't want to
hear nothing about them now,man.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I think Tony said they don't have a team anymore.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
They don't, I don't think Parkview has a football.
No, I don't think they have afootball program anymore.
That's crazy.
And they was nice in footballtoo.
I think Broad Run Parkview, Idon't think.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
They have basketball.
Parkview got the same logo asthe Patriots, as the.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Patriots?
Yep, but I remember, man, theyhad a.
I think it was a receiver backin the day, it was like the late
80s.
Carl Pickens, yeah, and heended up going to the NFL and
playing for the PhiladelphiaEagles, or Pickens, what is his
name.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Pickens or something like that.
Yeah, he's a running back.
No, he was a receiver.
Well, I think for them in highschool he was a High school was
pretty different.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
He played running back, running back, but once he
moved to the league, yeah, youknow how that goes, man, like,
if you come up in a small areayou might play tight end, but at
the next level you might be areceiver.
I mean, you never know, man.
I coach kids in Little Leaguethat were linemen, because you
know they had that weight limit,and then they go on and have a
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successful career playingreceiver.
So you never know man.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Was Will out there looking like one of the top
shooters in the country.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I'll put it to you like this yeah, he had a good
game.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
All right, let Wayne answer this question.
He had a good game.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
At times a little inconsistent shooting-wise, like
I mean he would hit two orthree and you would think he's
in that zone and then all of asudden he'll miss two or three.
He would hit two or three andyou would think he's in that
zone and then all of a suddenhe'll miss two or three.
But overall, to be reclassed, Imean he should be doing a lot
more than what he's doing on thecourt.
From what I see they'reaveraging 55 points a win right
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now.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What is it?
Well, as a team, they'reaveraging 55 as a team.
Yeah, as a team.
I heard he 55 as a team.
Yeah, as a team.
I heard he scored 17 in thefirst quarter, so he didn't need
to do much else.
They was blowing him out.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Oh, the first game.
Yeah, like they were justgetting that game, just threw it
out because it was just likeeverybody was shining in that
game.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So who did something yesterday against Huguenot, who
is the more athletic team, asZach admitted, but obviously
they didn't handle Hanley at all.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Well, I'll let Wayne start with it.
Who stood out to you?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Your son, tony.
I mean Christian Denges.
Man, I appreciate it.
He caused havoc last night, man.
I mean this kid in the 1-4-1press it looks like a 1-3-1 to
me on the defensive side andhe's the ball presser.
So with his wingspan, at whatis he, tony?
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6'3", 6'4", 6'4", with awingspan, give or take 6'6",
6'7".
I mean he was causing havoc,making the point guard go to
parts of the sideline where hecould trap him.
All day long he was coming upwith steals, creating steals,
and offensively he's a problembecause of his length, his size,
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his quickness at that height Ithink he had 16, 17 points.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Last night Will had 21 or something like that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I think they were the top J Von Amari Cameron.
They all look good, I think,javon Amari-Kavern.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
They all look good.
I'm proud of all of them.
I've coached all them kids.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Christian was a little bit more efficient than
anyone on that offensive sidelast night.
I believe he didn't take a lotof shots in the shots that he
made he lets the game come tohim.
They were high-level shots.
First half.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
I don't even think he had a point.
You know, but, like Wayne said,you know Christian defense
calls and hats.
You know every little thing.
You know people If you payattention to the details, the
little things.
Like Wayne's saying is you know, as you put, make a bad pass.
Well, that's on Christian orwhoever did they?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
forced that Stuff like that don't show up in the
stats.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
All the little things don't show up in the stats.
He's like Josh Hart.
Yeah, he just says he calls hishavoc.
Just because his length, thekids are going to make a bad
pass, a bad decision, Shit.
He even picked their pocket.
Being 6'4" still, having quickhands and picking pockets that
size is amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
You don't know.
Hustle plays don't get actualstat, Pass deflection is no stat
and all that.
But you can make a hugedifference in the game.
So that's what you guys aresaying is Christian is going to
be a problem for Camper, Checoand everybody.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
He will.
He brings his A game.
He will be a problem.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And you've got all these quick guards Briscoe,
amari and then you got Kyron andWill, so they're going to be a
problem and Kyron's pretty big,and then Will is a sniper, so
they got an all-around team.
They just don't have a true bigright.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yeah, not really, not really.
Yeah, that's what.
Or you know down the road of ateam Is JoJo not playing?
No.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Man.
They could have used him too.
And Tony and I we were at thegame last night when they
started off the game.
I mean it didn't look too goodthey started out kind of slow.
I think things switched fromthe defensive perspective when
they started getting a fewsteals, a few turnovers.
That's when everything justkind of fell in place and they
kind of just like walked awaywith it.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Christian was out there catching windmills and
stuff.
I mean he could have had fouror five dunks last night.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
They tried one hoop.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I'm not sure of the kid's name.
Tony might know his name, butthe point guard number one.
I mean he's got to get a littlebit better with his court
vision, because there wasprobably three or four
alley-oops last night thatshould have been thrown.
There was a couple bouncepasses that he could have hit.
That could have led to a dump.
But you know that'll come overtime.
Man.
I mean you can't really teachvision.
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You've got to have that on yourmind.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
What's his name?
Tony.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Don Trill.
I can't remember his last name.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
He didn't play there last year, right?
No, he's a kid from Canada.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
He's a foreign exchange student.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, he's a point guard.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah yeah, oh, he's like Very quick.
He's quick, like hey, the boycan finish at the hoop.
I mean he had like threeamazing and ones Like finishing.
He can finish at the hoop.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Where's the 6'10 kid?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Didn't they have a kid that was supposed to come,
that was like 6'10?
They were supposed, but thatwas over that.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
That's history.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, had a kid that he played good defense last
night too.
The foreign exchange studentyeah, like they hey, defensively
they were great.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I love when they went to man.
I think what woke them up isbecause they were in that 1-3-1,
and then they went man and whatdoes it do?
It forces you to play defensewhen you play.
And then they started wreakinghavoc just playing man.
But then they started switchingup back and forth, back and
forth, make them kids playdefense.
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And it's not like they can't,you know, it's like what would
you say?
Like Christians in their gardenare guard, yeah, at 6'4".
So I think that kind of wokethem up too.
That when they went to man theyfind because sometimes I know
this from Chris sometimes whenyou sit back in a zone what
happens?
They get lazy Right.
Yeah, to me that's easy.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
They just start getting, they get lazy, you
start relying on the next man.
Oh, he's going to help, yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
A lot of times kids will get, especially if you're
not trapping in the like.
If you want them to, okay,there's a, because your mate is
like, hey, you better do it oryou're out.
But you know, if you're justsitting back and you know they
start to get a little lazy inthat zone.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And you know another thing that I noticed last night.
I mean, I ain't going to lie toyou guys.
Back in the day our high schoolcoaches always stressed it.
Chris would tell you TommyDixon, every time you catch the
ball, triple threat, triplethreat man.
I don't see none of these kidscatching the ball.
Like looking triple threat mode, you know what I'm saying.
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Like it's always, as soon asthey catch it, kids looking down
at the ground ready to put iton the ground.
Like man, where's the triplethreat man?
Come around, square up, look atthe rim.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I can give Will credit for that.
Will Square up.
Look at the rim.
I can give Will credit for that.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Will is pretty fundamentally sound, but I want
to see that a little bit moreoften man yeah from all the kids
.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
But that's because they don't see it a lot from the
NBA.
Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
So now, as the game evolves inthe big boys league, as
young'uns we all look up to allthose guys and be like, well,
they don't do that anymorenearly as much.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Well, I'm going to tell them right now they better
start watching NBA and watchcollege on the weekends.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Hey, I tell my kids I'm like you know watch the NBA.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Because a lot of college kids they still hit that
triple threat man, that triplethreat they're still being
coached in college, tony, you'renot taking away.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Taking away John Moran time from 1v1.
John Moran.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Yes, I am, you can sit there and watch his
highlights or whatever, butdon't watch these NBA cats hey
they beat the Celtics.
There's no fundamentals.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
He had a crazy reverse dunk man.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Last night, John, oh yeah, I saw that that reverse,
he had genes.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
And you've seen his interview.
He said he's not going to tryto dunk as much anymore.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I mean, hey, it's kind of smart because look at
all the cats that were like who?
First one that comes to mind isRose.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Derrick Rose right, but they're so explosive like
that it's rough.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
But it's rough on their legs.
I mean I get it Like you don'thave to, hey, but it's rough on
their legs.
I mean I get it Like you don'thave to, hey.
Everybody loves to highlightlike real, do it, you know, pump
the crap, but you know youdon't have to do it all the time
.
You know, sometimes the olderyou get, they got to get smarter
and think about their body inthe long run.
Because look what happened toDerrick Rose.
I mean, hey, he went to therack, I loved it, his I can name
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one person that didn't happento Michael Jordan?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
No, it did happen to him, it's just father time
catches up to everybody.
Injury-wise.
Every single time they go tothe rack, they rock it.
His name is Russell Westbrook.
Yes, I love him.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Hey, I mean pick up the Russell man who's to say.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Pick up the Russ.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
You want to be aggressive and blah blah.
Hey, I mean Russell Westbrook'slongevity, but he still plays
pretty much the same way.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Number one, all-time triple doubles.
Big up Russ, but big up theJokic too.
Man, Jokic is out there balling.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh to the Wizards.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
They lost to the Wizards but I think he's like
third all-time in triple-doublesman.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
He's a center.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Well, there's a lot of centers up there with
triple-doubles yeah but not thathigh man.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
They're down, maybe like 12th or 14th.
This guy's at the top.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
He's just amazing, his court vision.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
There's no centers in the top 20, except for him and
Wilt Chamberlain.
I think that's it, wilt.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Chamberlain and Jokic .
Yeah, man, but we know recordsare always meant to be broken.
We got the kid in college rightnow, gentry, he's got an
opportunity to break BarrySanders' all-time rushing.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Well, let's speak about that, that's good.
We'll move on from that.
Let's speak about the heismanrace here real quick, and then
we'll get to your scores or your, uh, you know, nfl picks lane.
Yeah.
So who great debate.
Who should win the heisman?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
it's only sanders we'll start with you, chris and
and gentry killing it, the onlykid that plays the only kid that
plays 90 of all snaps in hisgames.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
That's ridiculous to me.
Like maybe he's not the best athis position, but he's one of
the two or three best and toplay 90% of the snaps.
Imagine like people are tiredjust playing one side of the
ball.
This guy's playing both sidesof the ball and still elite at
all of it.
I definitely think Hunter.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I'll go next man, and and I'm totally gonna agree
with my brother chris, I hate todo it to you, tony to be the
eyeball man, but listen,gentry's having a historical
season.
Man, we all know about it lesstouches, more touchdowns, more
yards than almost any back thatwe've ever seen come through
college football.
You want me to give you thestats, so hold on, get this.
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That's when I'm done talking,though, but I'm with Chris.
I'm with Chris.
Travis Hunter plays over 90% ofthe snaps.
Man, 90% of snaps but performson both sides.
Man, just due to scoringtouchdowns on offense, turns
around, take maybe like oneplayoff and then comes up with
an interception for you, man, Imean, that's just unheard of man
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.
And, like I said, gentry ishaving a historic season but
what Travis Hunter's doing isunheard of man.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
I get it, guys, I get it.
It's tough.
So first, before I give myopinion, I'll give you Travis
Hunter's stats.
Okay, yeah, stats this year.
This year he had 92 receptions,1,152 yards, 14 touchdowns.
Okay, what's wrong with themnumbers?
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Nothing at all.
And then, gentry man, if it wasanother year, gentry would have
this in the bag.
This is tough.
So, gentry, stats this year 344carries, 2,497 yards and 29
touchdowns.
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What's his average per carry?
7.7 yards a carry.
All right, it's tough man.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
But that's his set position, yeah just yeah, I got
it.
Yeah, we're talking about adude.
You gave us his offensivenumbers.
You didn't say nothing abouthis defensive numbers.
How many times has he beenthrown at this year?
What?
34 times.
How many yards has he given up?
Not a lot.
How many interceptions did hehave?
You, we're talking about a dudethat's getting it done on both
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sides of the ball, man Right.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
That's hands down.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
I mean listen.
I don't mean to piss inGentry's cup of tea, but listen.
Great season young man, buthands down the Heisman's going
to T-Hunter All right, all right.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
So we won't forget, because, like I say, he plays
both sides of the ball.
So Travis Hunter has 30 tackles, nine pass deflections, three
interceptions and a forcedfumble.
How many yards has he given upDefense?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
And he's got pick six .
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah that man's might have gave up a little bit over
100 yards receiving this yearbro.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
It's because they learned after last year not to
throw it to his side too much.
This year Exactly.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Yeah, they learned who he was.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
At the end of the day , though, there's some Heisman
Trophy winners that go on to donothing in the pros, and vice
versa people that get snubbed,oh yeah.
So I'll give my opinion.
They've never given up aco-Hasman Trophy, have they?
No, no.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
But I'll give my opinion.
Of course it'll be close, but Ihave to agree with you guys.
We'll go back.
Travis, you play both sides ofthe ball like that, and at a
high level, the college level,d-1?
, d-1.
Okay, now, who was the last oneto do that?
Charles Woodson.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Charles.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Woodson, charles Woodson.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
He won.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Heisman Yep and won.
He won it over Peyton Manningand Randy Moss.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Yes, because he was a difference maker as well.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
I mean he didn't have the.
Wasn't there a great runningback too during that time?
Oh, I'm not sure that was upfor that, heisman.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
I'm sure Any other year he gets it hands down, like
hands down.
But when you got a specialplayer like Hunter who plays
both sides at a high level, Idon't know how you can't deny
that.
Like how many snaps, you see agame 92, 3.
It's like high, like he'sbarely out of the game.
(44:22):
He's not tired.
Yeah, he's just high, like he'sbarely out of the game, but
he's not tired.
Yeah, he's just different.
Yeah, he's different.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
So, stat-wise, I don't know what they're going to
go by.
Woodson's an all-time great,but I would rather have Peyton
Manning or Randy Moss over him.
But that could end up being thesame way.
Hey, Woodson was no slouch.
Then he might end up being theguy everybody loves in the long
run, but right now Hunter isthat guy.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah Well, I remember distinctively that.
I remember, I don't know ify'all remember, but I remember
distinctively that year Woodsontore it up.
I mean, like you say, he was agame changer.
I mean he was literallychanging, getting pick sixes and
what did he also do the thirdphase of the game.
He was a punt returner.
Also do the third phase of thegame.
(45:04):
He was a punt returner, right,so he even did.
He was on special teams.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
And then y'all got to also think of who's Travis
Hunter's coach, though he did italso.
He played both ways.
Yeah, he played both ways.
You know what I'm saying Like.
So, man, big ups to that dudeman.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, he's one of the best returners ever and he is
the best cornerback ever.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Man, I don't ever see this dude get tired.
I don't ever see this dude getcramps Like man.
Look man, that dude's a warriorman.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
He's an ultimate warrior.
That's why he's got that.
What is it the D for dog?
Speaker 3 (45:34):
on their jersey, yeah , and then still have the energy
to do the dance on you in theend zone.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
That's a lot got energy man, that dude be
breaking it down every time hescores.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
So yeah, I mean, hey, much love to Jetchy.
It sucked, but he's going to dobig things.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
I mean, he might win it.
I just don't think so.
I think the hype is too hypefor Hunter.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Yeah, it's a hard pick, we'll see.
The only way I don't see TravisHunter winning is just all the
Colorado hate.
You see how people are hatingon DIF All the hate.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah, I'm just here to say Gentry already got his
award.
Man, he got the best runningback in college football.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
He got that award, the Walker or whatever.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah, just be happy with that man.
Go make your money in theleague.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
He's first team All-American hands down, of
course.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I see him being like a Christian McCaffrey in the
league, though, Gentry.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I don't want to see that because McCaffrey get hurt.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Well, not that aspect of it, but you know what I mean
, Jeez Chris.
All right, we're going to goahead and move on.
Get this thing wrapped up, man.
All right, go ahead and move on.
Get this thing wrapped up, man.
Last week I was 62 on theparlay, week before I was 9-1.
So I mean, we're staying onthat high end side, man.
My losses.
Last week I took the Saintsover the Rams, which I lost, and
(47:00):
then I took the Bengals to beatPitt.
So those were my two upsetgames, as I told y'all last week
.
But I should have just wentwith my gut instinct.
But it happens, let's make somemoney this week.
So this week I got the Saintsover the Giants, I got the
Steelers over the Browns, theVikings over the Falcons, the
Buccaneers over the Raiders,philly over Carolina, the
(47:23):
Dolphins over the Jets,seattle's over the Cardinals and
, of course, you know, theChiefs are going to beat the
Chargers.
It'll probably be another coolthing.
Yeah, it'll probably be agame-winning field goal.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
There's got to be an upset in there somewhere.
And the Jets got to win oneeventually.
Yeah, and can they keep losing?
The Jets, they got to wineventually.
Who are they playing again?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
It's not going to help Miami.
The Jets are playing Miami, butit's not going to help having.
They might shut Brees Hall downfor the season.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
So he's not playing today.
They might see him now play.
They're talking about moving onfrom Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
Yeah, they might.
Bench Rodgers, why not man?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Here's the thing, that's a whole other topic.
I'm not even upset.
I got to go to work after thisshow.
All the games I heard here'sthe two best games of the day
Dolphins, jets, seattle andCardinals.
Like that's the best thing on aSunday slate, I'm all right, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
I think one that's good on a slate Pittsburgh,
cleveland, yeah, because that'sa rival game.
But I was going to say becausehe's facing his former team, I'm
going to say Kirk Cousins andthe Falcons.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Oh yeah, and the Vikings are balling, so yeah,
they need Kirk to show up,exactly.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
And Kirk's got some weapons.
And I'll tell you somebody thatreally has not shown up, man,
and this kid was an animal incollege, Kyle Pitts.
Where's Kyle Pitts been at man?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Right.
He had a good game once every10 games.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Y'all can call me crazy if you want it, but
throwing it in today, kyle Pittsscores two touchdowns.
Ooh, that's a good one though.
Kyle Pitts for two touchdownstoday.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Tony, y'all got a bye .
No, we play Monday night.
Hey, tell the people we havethe Bengals Monday night Dallas
and Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Hey, tony, tell the people what you sent me Thursday
, man, but I was at a WashingtonWizards game Thursday and
didn't even have time to put thebet in.
Tony tells me Tim Patrick, onThursday night, is going to
score two touchdowns at a plus6,000.
What does Tony not do?
Tony, don't put the bet in.
What did Tim Patrick do, people?
He scored two touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Hey, I can't take credit for that.
That's our boy, Brian.
Yeah, man, he's the brother outthere that gives parlays and
bets for people.
So I was like man, I was goingto play this and I didn't.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
I just can't believe you didn't play it because you
sent it to me, right?
Yeah, I forgot you knowbetting's not my top priority in
life I think you would have wonoff a ten dollar bet what you
would have won oh, you got like600, like 600 off every 10, the
odds of that off of every 10,you would have got 600, yeah, or
100 at least.
So you would have won 1200 ifyou put a 20 point in there,
(50:08):
yeah yeah, I'll stop.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
I'm kicking myself right now.
It's all good we're going intoday, man, but all right,
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football.
We're going to have a fish fryright now, all right?
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Man.
A lot of people talk, but theyain't never walked apart.
Gotta shine a light on povertyand fight against injustice and
always speak the truth when theenemy's on the line.
What's up?
Ladies and gentlemen, welcomeback to the BWO, the only
podcast y'all really need totune into on Sundays, sitting
here with my brother Wayne andmy brother Tony Y'all know where
Zeb's at on the clock gettingthat bread.
(00:51):
Anyway, man, we're going tokeep it short and sweet.
This week.
We're going to run down a bunchof scores from the high school
football playoffs and everybodyhitting to either the semis or
the championship games, and thenwe're going to slide on over to
our favorite sport.
At least me and wayne's I can'tspeak for my brother tony.
I think he liked football more,but his son is one of the best
players in the state mrchristian dinges and haley
(01:12):
looking real smooth right now,beating teams by 75 80 points,
taking teams on from bigger,bigger divisions like hugo and I
, and putting it on themyesterday.
So let's get on into thesescores with my brother Tony.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Well, chris, first off I'll say I love all sports.
I love football, basketball.
Come on man, I coach basketball.
I love all sports.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, what's the water polo scores?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Give me a second.
I'll get that by next week.
All right, we'll start off andcongratulate a lot of these area
teams because they made thestate finals, the VHSL state
finals.
So you had Strasburg defeatPocosin 14-13, and Graham
(01:54):
defeated Glenvar 28-24.
So those two will meet up inthe Class 2 state title.
So congrats to Strasburg,congratulations boys.
That's huge.
We'll speak on class two.
Real quick, didn't Central makestates last year and play
(02:14):
Graham in the state final?
Or was it the semifinal?
I can't remember Central, outof Woodstock, I believe.
So I want to say, yes, I can'tremember, I don't.
Yes, I can't remember, butmaybe they lost in the semifinal
.
So anyway, moving on, we'llspeak on class one.
(02:35):
The state final will be Essexand Grayson County.
So those two games will beplayed at Salem University.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'll be honest as much as I know about Virginia
man, I know Essex.
I've never heard of GraysonCounty.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, they're class one man who knows where they're
from.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Grayson County.
Yep, there you go.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I don't know where Grayson is, but hey, congrats to
them.
So class one and twochampionships will be played at
Salem University.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Definitely going for the Rams Yep.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
We got to root local.
Now your Kettle Run won by onepoint.
They squeaked by and made thestate championship in the class
three and they will be playingChris's Liberty Christian.
He's all about LibertyChristian.
I think that's nice.
We'll see.
Kettle Run is the team thatwho's all about.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Liberty Christian.
I think they're nice.
We'll see Petal runs, the teamthat whooped all of our area
schools, so it'd be better forme I'm going for them To answer
your question too.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Tony Central did beat Graham.
They lost to Graham 34-7 in theClass 2 state championship
final.
Just to correct you on that.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, I just wasn't sure.
No, no, no, I mean just thesemifinal or the final.
Yeah, so yeah.
But hey, that's two local teamsback to back making states,
right, yeah, so that's goodstuff.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And I'm pretty sure they're in the same district.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, they are yeah.
And so now moving on class four, right?
Yeah, you have Phoebus versusVerena.
Phoebus, portia Rando gotdemolished 34 to nothing against
Phoebus.
They've won what five statetitles in a row?
Class 4, I believe.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, they might as well.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Just call them Phoebus Community College, right
?
So Verena, we'll see Ver.
Phoebus Community College,right?
So Verena, we'll see if Verenagives them a game.
I feel they I don't knowPhoebus, shout out to.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Sharando for making it there, yeah.
A couple of years from now, allthose kids at Sharando will be
like oh, we played against himand him, and him, and they all
go on to Clemson and then thenext thing you know, they're
playing for the Jets and theCowgirls.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah, we definitely want to give a shout out to
Shred.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Hey, I know a lot of kids.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Wayne's coached me and him coached a few of them
kids.
Hunter Rashford you know heplayed for us and you know BB,
and you know there's some goodkids over there at Shred.
They're good football playersso I'm sure they've played them
hard.
They made it that far, to thestate semifinals.
(05:09):
Congrats to them.
They're defending districtchamps and regional champs,
coming back next year.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I'd like to go check out Phoebus next year, man.
We could you want to go to thegame?
Over these past three or fouryears, man, he's just been
blowing the fuck out ofeverybody.
Man, like I really want to seethis firsthand.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I believe, they was on.
I'll move on.
I believe Phoebus was on ESPNone time, like they were a game
of the week because you knowthey show high school football.
They were on ESPN againstsomebody.
I want to say they were.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I mean, they've got to have a well rounded group of
coaches out there, man, becausethey're doing this year in and
year out.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, so congrats to them too.
So the Class 3 and 4championships, which again will
be Kettle Run versus Liberty,christian Class 3 and Phoebus
versus Redder, class 4, will beat Liberty.
University where those twogames will be.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'm not going to lie.
I got to shout out Kettle Runman because I'm surprised their
whole team is white.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Except the Tapscots.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Funny gesture.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I like it.
I've seen their picture and I'mlike these dudes is the ones
that smoke and everybody.
Dude dude hey, I mean, shout it.
I've seen their picture and I'mlike these dudes is the ones
that smoke and everybody.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Dude.
Hey, I mean, shout out, theygot a good program.
I mean, they're another schoolthat has a hell of a football
program and they have a system.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
They do their damn thing year in and year out I
don't think the ethnic hasanything to do with it man,
fundamentals and IQ.
If you have that man you canbeat anybody you want man.
It was a good little funny jokethere.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Moving on to Class 5 and 6, state finals.
You have in Class 5, mauryversus Briar Woods in Class 5,
and then Oscar Smith versusJames Madison in high school,
and those games will be playedat JMU right down the road.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
James Madison playing at James Madison.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Home field advantage.
Where is that?
6a school, James Madison.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Good question.
I want to say it's down near,like Waynesboro area.
We don't have 6A schools inthat area.
No, no, no, I'm totally wrong.
I think it's Vienna, vienna,virginia, vienna.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So that's.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Northern Virginia.
I was thinking of somethingelse.
I can't think of a high schoolthat's down there.
It was like James Monroe.
James Monroe, oh yeah, that'sprobably who you're thinking of.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But I think James Monroe is like class two.
There was Strollberg in it, Ithink.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Or.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I'm thinking no, there is another James Madison.
Is it In Monroe?
Yeah, I believe in class two.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's because those are the first presidents of this
country.
You know they're all fromVirginia, so they probably got a
bunch of schools.
They got schools Just like wementioned last week.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
They got high schools , elementary.
How many Thomas Jeffersons arethere?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know what's crazy is?
There's only one, georgeWashington, and that's in
Danville.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That's the only George Washington school, are
you sure I that's the only.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
George Washington school, are you sure?
I don't know of any others.
I've never heard of themthroughout the whole time we've
been growing up till now.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I mean you got George Washington University in
Georgetown.
Yeah, those are in DC, but asfar as like a high school or
middle school or something likethat, that's probably the only
one that you've heard of.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Right.
The only ones we're going foris who?
Kettle Run and Strasburg Kettle.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Run Strasburg and.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah Kettle Run and Strasburg.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Because we didn't get over to our state limit boys,
Martinsburg and Spring MillsExactly.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
That was just the Virginia scores.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Oh, shoot my bad.
Well, I do know Martinsburg wonby one point by one point by
one point Over Highlander.
I said Was that 35?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Highlander?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I believe it was Highlander 35 to 34, so they
squeaked by.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And then Spring Mills beat Hurricane 49-7.
Yeah, you got yep there you goWayne's on it.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
He's helping me out over here this morning.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So are they both in the state semis now.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
No, no, no.
I think that's no, because theystarted behind.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Remember, they started their playoffs a week
later.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, and all of Virginia is going to state
championships.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Right so.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
West Virginia should be state semis.
They're in the semis right now,man I wish I could go to that
Martinsburg-Spring Mills statechampionship game.
That's going to be lit if theyboth make it Right.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
If they do, we have to go.
Who Spring?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Mills and Martinsburg .
Yeah, if they're in there, hellyeah, I'm down.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
That That'd be fire, I'm down.
So congrats to all these youngmen, congrats to the coaches,
everybody making it as far asthey have.
That's a big accomplishment.
Like Chris said, that'ssomething these kids can talk
about for years making mistakeslike that.
So now, moving on, basketballseason has started, everybody,
(10:24):
and we have some basketballscores.
And John Hanley won Fridaynight 97-18 over Princeville,
and we'll get back to that.
We'll talk about that a littlebit, because I was telling Wayne
, people always want to postlike oh why are you running the
score up?
And blah, blah, blah, but we'lltalk about that in a minute.
(10:44):
So then yesterday they playedagain and they played Huguenot,
huguenot, huguenot.
It went 75-49, that one.
So Haley is 2-0, and Chris saysthey're ranked number one in
the state for some reason, Idon't know how.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I think they're number two.
I think they have Hamptonnumber one and Hanley number two
.
Well, they're class, though, toclarify that.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, 4-8.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
They're not going to be ranked with Oak Hill and Paul
, the six of them.
But I ain't going to lie man, Igot to day.
He says he will be, but he'sbusy Because I ain't never in my
life thought I would see DwightHoward, gilbert Arenas and Matt
Barnes shouting out Hanley,that was lit.
Yeah, they showed that video atthe game yesterday.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, they showed that video at the game.
Yep, that was pretty cool howthey did that.
You know the kids got a kickout of that.
In fact, matt Barnes andGilbert Arenas Shout out to the
family.
That was pretty cool.
Darian is a producer on alltheir podcasts.
(11:54):
That's why he has his own.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I think he has a lot of followers now man.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
He is the producer for all those big podcasts, all
the smoke and everything that'slit well, he is the uh.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
He has his own media company entirely.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Media is his media entirely nba or entirely nba
media or something like that.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It just says not on this, but you could be right.
It could be entirely nba.
But yeah, we should get Darrenon the show.
Reach out to get him on.
So it seems like he's doing bigthings.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, my son might be able to reach out to him.
Maybe we can get a littlepointers from him on how to
continue on with our success.
Yeah, big up to Darren, though.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So you went to the Skyline game.
Who won that?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
That was Friday.
Yeah, that was a blowout man.
Clark County, they suck, butSkyline's got some work to do.
I hate to put it like that.
They're terrible, Wade is veryblunt.
You know me, man, I'm just abrother with my own opinion, but
that's what I saw with my owneyes, making me cough Skyline.
(13:03):
They got some players thatshould come off the bench and
contribute to the team.
It's not a good rotation ofplayers that the coaches got
going on out there.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, I can give you another score the other night
because Clark County playedJames Wood and guess who won.
Who won that?
Clark County?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
James Wood must be terrible, ben Bates, because I
didn't see anything exciting outof Clark County.
James Wood must be terrible,ben Bates I didn't see anything
exciting out of Clark County.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
We love Ben Bates, but, man, he's got some work to
do.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, it's his first year.
They lost last night, oryesterday I think, to Loudoun
Valley About one, did they?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
really.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I think Loudoun County is the power.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
They had to play Loudoun County Because Loudoun
Valley played and handledInflation last night.
So then they lost.
Think Loudoun County is thepower.
They had to play Loudoun Countybecause Loudoun Valley played
and handled it informationallast night.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So then they lost to Loudoun County yeah because I'm
like one of them in school.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, is the one that's the powerhouse in
basketball.
But yeah, Ben Bates, I feelwe'd love to get him on the show
, but I feel he'll change theculture.
At James Wood They'll playtough.
I'll, at you, say that.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It's not a good start , but we'll see.
You're going to come on theshow and be like don't be
bashing on Clark County no, thatwould be more my wife.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, just what I saw, man.
I mean the poor kids, they'renot good.
I saw maybe two guys out therethat you know you might have
been able to do something withthem, man, but the rest of the
team, they just got to fall inin the right place, man, because
they're I don't know, they'rejust hanging off the edge right
now.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
How'd Burks Payson?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
and Ford.
Look for Skyline Burks comingout of football transition
offensively.
I would say a little rusty, gotto get his feet under him.
His feet work, his fatiguelevel, I mean that's all there.
Bright side that I saw overthere was Ahsan, number 10.
He causes havoc top of thepress.
He almost plays like your son,tony.
(14:56):
They got him at the top of thepress.
He's pretty long, he's quick,he's agile.
He likes to cause havoc.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He was in our event, right, chris?
Yeah, that's good to see himout there too, because he got
hurt bad in football, oh yeah.
So that's good to see he'salready back for basketball, and
they were missing another keyplayer in Andre Ford.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I think he had some wisdom teeth pulled, so he's
going to be out for like atleast three games.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So they were missing one of their bigs, yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
But it was a cakewalk .
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I think they beat about like almost 30, 32 points
or something like that.
Wow, well, they get to playhandling twice this year.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
so that'll be fun.
Yeah, there should be.
It'll be interesting becauseright now, if they had to play
Hanley's, Hanley would probablybeat Skyline.
That's my belief, because I'veseen Skyline already play and
I've already seen Hadley play.
They probably run him out thegym, to be honest.
Right, but once they get alltheir players and get a little
chemistry going I mean, whoknows, you know how it is once
you get midway through theseason and deep towards the
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playoffs, like basketball startsto change.
You know what I'm sayingBecause a lot of those kids
played football.
So the transition you've got toflip it over.
If I came off the footballfield and take a jump shot, it's
probably going to go over thetop of the back.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I'm just saying How's Chirando doing basketball?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I haven't even seen any of their scores yet, I don't
even know if they've played yet.
But let me say these real quickfrom the showcase yesterday,
meridian which is a surpriseMeridian must be good.
I have no clue, but they beatSpotswood with star Cam Pacheco
on Spotswood 64-49, after CamPacheco just came off a 40-point
game the night before.
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Because you said who?
Monticello?
Yeah, right, so now I thinkSpotswood is one and one with
that loss.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Cam was first team off state last year, wasn't he,
I believe so he's probably goingto be player of the year this
year, unless Will, christian andthem can have something to say
about that.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
And then Loudon Valley defeated Western
Albemarle 48 to 44.
So that's two good schoolsgoing at it there.
Western Albemarle is alwaysreal and we know Loudon.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Valley do.
Does Hamlet play Spotswood?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, chris just said they play them twice.
So when do they play them?
They play.
You got to give me a fullschedule.
Of Mark it on your calendar,everyone.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
They played them last year.
They played.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Spotswood.
The first is Spotswood hastheir own tournament or showcase
.
That'll be December 28ththrough the 30th.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
That Hanley plays there.
Yes, do you know if they playSpotswood?
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
But I'm sure they probably will, and then they
play them later on, I believe.
Where is it at?
I'm sure they play them twice.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, if they play them twice.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I'm not sure for both of those, oh, maybe it's just
that I don't think they playthem twice.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, they don't.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Division conference.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, yeah, they don't.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They'll play Skyline twice, but they won't play that
team twice, Like they won't playHuguenot again or Brentsville
again.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Right, If they play them twice you'll probably see
them in the playoffs.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be that samething.
No, not Spotswood.
Spotswood's 3A.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Oh, they're 3A.
Yeah, wayne, basketball's all.
All the divisions are crazy.
From when we went to school,everything's all mismatched.
I know, man, I got to get up topar with this.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, it's like Skyline, skyline.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Skyline's what 3A too .
Speaker 2 (18:23):
They're 3A in football but 4A in basketball.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, that's different because we just went
to the game.
They're 3A in football and thenbasketball they're like 4A,
like Chris said.
Are you sure?
Yeah, there's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Some colleges are like that and I'm like that's
weird.
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I get that.
I mean, yeah, I don't know howthey can do that when they go by
popular.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I think Zach said that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
No, I think Skyline is not Y'all making me look this
up now.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
But they're in the same district, even though
they're 3A and then 4A.
But that's so weird, man, wedidn't have that stuff back in
the day, right.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
So basketball they are.
To answer that question.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen, they should be
the same.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That's so weird.
It's still the same amount ofkids in the school.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I got a fun stat for everybody at the end of the show
, so stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
What about Millbrook?
Millbrook didn't play.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Not that I know of.
I haven't heard anything.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's where the Winchester Star and Northern
Virginia Daily come in handy.
Oh, hold on.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
No, no, no, I'm sorry Millbrook did play.
They lost by like 30 or 40,.
Whoever they played the boysyeah the boys basketball team I
don't remember who they played.
The girls got beat prettyhandily yeah they, I'll find it,
but y'all move on, talk aboutbasketball.
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Nah, I'm gonna give everybody afun stat.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I'll give you.
Go ahead, get the fun stat.
The fun stat.
Since you know we was talkinghigh school football playoffs
and all that, we'll jump up outof our state for just a quick
second man.
I wanna give a shout out toTyrese Woodgate.
He's a senior running back atCoffey out of Georgia High
School man.
So Friday night this kid had605 yards, seven touchdowns on
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19 carries.
So every carry that he had was50 yards or longer.
He set a single game rushingrecord on friday night was 605,
seven touchdowns and 19 carriesrecord.
I'm not sure if it's a nationalrecord, but I do know it's the
georgia high school footballall-time record and you know
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there's a lot of good runningbacks come out of georgia.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Is that kid going to georgia?
Alabama, uh, that I have, isthat?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
kid going to Georgia or Alabama?
That I have no clue.
He's going to one which top.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Or Oregon, but he's going somewhere.
He's from Coffey High School,5A out of Georgia.
So big ups to that guy man.
Yeah, that's wild.
Every time he touched a ball on19 carries right.
Every time he touched it it was50 yards or a longer run.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah it was just a touchdown.
Every time he touched prettymuch.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Half the time almost.
Yeah, A little more.
Yeah, I mean a little less.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
So, chris, to answer your question about Millbrook,
they are 0-2, okay.
Millbrook, they are 0-2, okay.
And if my phone stops acting up, sharando, I looked up.
They don't have the scoreposted, but Millbrook lost the
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broad run 69-33, and they lostthe skyline 56-54.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So that's Millbrook's basketball with old.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Eric Green leaving the helm.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
He coaches the boys.
Yeah, he coaches the boys now,yeah, he keeps switching.
Then he wasn't in girls for along time he had them dominating
.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, he left the girls because the varsity boys
position opened up and this ishis second year.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So Skyline's undefeated right now.
Yeah, they're 2-0 right here.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
And then shout-out to the Hanley girls.
I can't forget it, they're 3-0.
They won by three yesterday,right, yeah, I believe.
So yeah, over Hampshire County.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
How'd their young star do?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Oh, I'm not sure.
I'm just going to Providence.
I didn't make it in time forthe girls game.
The girls played right beforethe guys.
I was there for the night game.
I just had a lot going onyesterday, so I wish I could
have caught the whole tournament, because that tournament
started at 2 pm.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah it started.
Yeah, she's already gettingbig-time D1 scholarship offers.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I think she already had a visit to Providence, I
believe right, yeah, that's oneof the schools and she's only a
junior Right, and where's herolder sister?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I'm not sure she went somewhere.
Yeah, she went somewhere.
I'll check that out.
At a high level.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
But shout out to the girls.
You know the girls shoulddefinitely do some damage again.
You know girls program shoulddefinitely make some noise again
.
This year.
I think they have four out oftheir five starters returned on
their team for the girlsbasketball team.
So they're loaded.
So shout out to them.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
The girl that still plays at Hanley.
Her name is Regan Regan ReganEdsel she.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Regan Regan Edsel, she's a junior Regan Edsel,
she's a junior.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
What was her sister's name, though?
I?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
can't remember her sister's name.
Can't remember it.
I'm bad with names, man, justreal bad so who was the better?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's Corin or Corinne , corinne, corinne, it's real
bad.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
So who was the better , it's Corrin or Corrin, corrin,
corrin, yep, corrin, corrin,corrin, yep.
You're right, there you go.
How do you spell it?
Good job, chris.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
C-O-R-I-N.
Yep.
C-o-r-i-n.
She goes to Shepherd.
She goes to Shepherd outessential.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, so way, in your opinion.
I'll start with you who winsthe district basketball?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
yeah, our district, and I'm gonna look so far, early
in the season, just dating offof what I've seen on paper and
last year, I'm going, I can't, Ican't go against it, man, I'm
going with the handy judges, man, to win the district, you,
homer.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
That wouldn't be anything wrong.
They went to states the lasttwo years and those kids are all
back and they're onlysophomores and juniors.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
But I just like what they do, like they play at all
these invitationals, they getthemselves ready for the season
to dominate their actualdistrict and then the
competition comes once they hitthat playoff room.
You know what I'm saying.
So if they can get over thatplayoff hump, I mean sky's the
limit to these kids, man.
They can win states man.
But you got to play together.
You got to keep a solidrotation of players throughout
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the game, man, like what I sawlast night, it was just a
mixture of maybe like sixplayers and I think that Haley's
got about three or four playersthat can come off that bench
and contribute right away oncethey enter the game, just for
two, three, four minutes, justto give those key players a
break throughout the game.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
So, that being said, how did the team that knocked
Hanley out do Charlottesvilleman?
Chris, you're doing the mostCharlottesville.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Because you've got to keep up with those, those
schools.
That's the team that knocked.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Hanley out and they beat the Hanley girls but let me
educate you on this though.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
So in that game I don't ever want to blame nothing
on refs, but the fouldifferential was way off.
It was lopsided.
I believe Hanley had like 28fouls on him or some crap and
Charlottesville only had likeseven or eight.
So I think the refs had a lotto do with that game.
But the kids still played toughand almost pulled that game out
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.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Look so to answer y'all's question, I'm looking up
the basketball, our district,northwestern, and you guys are
right, skyline is in ourdistrict.
Yeah, or region I should say.
So you got Skyline Liberty,hanley, falkier, jameswood,
warren County, millbrook,brentsville, kettle Run,
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manassas Park, meridian andSharando.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
So Meridian's in y'all's district.
So why don't you know anythingabout Meridian?
And they beat Spotswood lastnight.
Where is Meridian's in y'all'sdistrict?
So why don't you know anythingabout Meridian?
And they beat Spotswood lastnight.
Where is Meridian?
It's got to be in Loudoun.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
County.
Yeah, it's in Loudoun.
We've scrimmaged them or playedthem before a year.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, they got to be somewhere close for them to be.
In your region there's some,yeah, interesting man.
I mean, when I played Iremember broad run parkview,
manassas park, osborne, likewhere them schools at man,
they're not you, just inbrinsville yeah in our.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, they're in our.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I wouldn't think they are.
They'd seem like they're likewrapping hand at clark county
kind of school.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
I just looked it up, that's all the schools in our
region.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, yeah, but Brentsville, where's Brentsville
?
That's out of county, right,it's in.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Brentsville.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Virginia.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
In Brentsville oh.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
But I mean, what's the county?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Brentsville has.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
But what's the county there?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I'm not sure.
Look, I can only do one thingat a time, guys.
Meridian is from Falls Church,Falls Church, yeah, and then of
course, their record right nowthey're, I believe, 2-0.
Because the season just started, yeah, so they beat whoever
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Lewis is, Lewis High School.
They won 82-46.
And then, of course, they wonyesterday against Spotswood.
But it's funny they don't havethem officially on their
schedule.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Brentsville is out of Prince William County.
Okay.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
So another Virginia school.
It's not too far away, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I mean, yeah, that's probably why they're in your
region and it's funny, man, wewouldn't play forest church and
none of those schools back inthe day.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Oh, hell, no, man, they would have.
Man, one of the toughestschools that we played back in
the day.
Chris knows this, because chrisand I we played together and
that was part of you, man, part.
Parkview was a powerhouse backin the day and you don't want to
hear nothing about them now,man.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I think Tony said they don't have a team anymore.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
They don't, I don't think Parkview has a football.
No, I don't think they have afootball program anymore.
That's crazy.
And they was nice in footballtoo.
I think Broad Run Parkview, Idon't think.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
They have basketball.
Parkview got the same logo asthe Patriots, as the.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Patriots?
Yep, but I remember, man, theyhad a.
I think it was a receiver backin the day, it was like the late
80s.
Carl Pickens, yeah, and heended up going to the NFL and
playing for the PhiladelphiaEagles, or Pickens, what is his
name.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Pickens or something like that.
Yeah, he's a running back.
No, he was a receiver.
Well, I think for them in highschool he was a High school was
pretty different.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
He played running back, running back, but once he
moved to the league, yeah, youknow how that goes, man, like,
if you come up in a small areayou might play tight end, but at
the next level you might be areceiver.
I mean, you never know, man.
I coach kids in Little Leaguethat were linemen, because you
know they had that weight limit,and then they go on and have a
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successful career playingreceiver.
So you never know man.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Was Will out there looking like one of the top
shooters in the country.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I'll put it to you like this yeah, he had a good
game.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
All right, let Wayne answer this question.
He had a good game.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
At times a little inconsistent shooting-wise, like
I mean he would hit two orthree and you would think he's
in that zone and then all of asudden he'll miss two or three.
He would hit two or three andyou would think he's in that
zone and then all of a suddenhe'll miss two or three.
But overall, to be reclassed, Imean he should be doing a lot
more than what he's doing on thecourt.
From what I see they'reaveraging 55 points a win right
(30:26):
now.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What is it?
Well, as a team, they'reaveraging 55 as a team.
Yeah, as a team.
I heard he 55 as a team.
Yeah, as a team.
I heard he scored 17 in thefirst quarter, so he didn't need
to do much else.
They was blowing him out.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Oh, the first game.
Yeah, like they were justgetting that game, just threw it
out because it was just likeeverybody was shining in that
game.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So who did something yesterday against Huguenot, who
is the more athletic team, asZach admitted, but obviously
they didn't handle Hanley at all.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Well, I'll let Wayne start with it.
Who stood out to you?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Your son, tony.
I mean Christian Denges.
Man, I appreciate it.
He caused havoc last night, man.
I mean this kid in the 1-4-1press it looks like a 1-3-1 to
me on the defensive side andhe's the ball presser.
So with his wingspan, at whatis he, tony?
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6'3", 6'4", 6'4", with awingspan, give or take 6'6",
6'7".
I mean he was causing havoc,making the point guard go to
parts of the sideline where hecould trap him.
All day long he was coming upwith steals, creating steals,
and offensively he's a problembecause of his length, his size,
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his quickness at that height Ithink he had 16, 17 points.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Last night Will had 21 or something like that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I think they were the top J Von Amari Cameron.
They all look good, I think,javon Amari-Kavern.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
They all look good.
I'm proud of all of them.
I've coached all them kids.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Christian was a little bit more efficient than
anyone on that offensive sidelast night.
I believe he didn't take a lotof shots in the shots that he
made he lets the game come tohim.
They were high-level shots.
First half.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
I don't even think he had a point.
You know, but, like Wayne said,you know Christian defense
calls and hats.
You know every little thing.
You know people If you payattention to the details, the
little things.
Like Wayne's saying is you know, as you put, make a bad pass.
Well, that's on Christian orwhoever did they?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
forced that Stuff like that don't show up in the
stats.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
All the little things don't show up in the stats.
He's like Josh Hart.
Yeah, he just says he calls hishavoc.
Just because his length, thekids are going to make a bad
pass, a bad decision, Shit.
He even picked their pocket.
Being 6'4" still, having quickhands and picking pockets that
size is amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
You don't know.
Hustle plays don't get actualstat, Pass deflection is no stat
and all that.
But you can make a hugedifference in the game.
So that's what you guys aresaying is Christian is going to
be a problem for Camper, Checoand everybody.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
He will.
He brings his A game.
He will be a problem.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And you've got all these quick guards Briscoe,
amari and then you got Kyron andWill, so they're going to be a
problem and Kyron's pretty big,and then Will is a sniper, so
they got an all-around team.
They just don't have a true bigright.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yeah, not really, not really.
Yeah, that's what.
Or you know down the road of ateam Is JoJo not playing?
No.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Man.
They could have used him too.
And Tony and I we were at thegame last night when they
started off the game.
I mean it didn't look too goodthey started out kind of slow.
I think things switched fromthe defensive perspective when
they started getting a fewsteals, a few turnovers.
That's when everything justkind of fell in place and they
kind of just like walked awaywith it.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Christian was out there catching windmills and
stuff.
I mean he could have had fouror five dunks last night.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
They tried one hoop.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I'm not sure of the kid's name.
Tony might know his name, butthe point guard number one.
I mean he's got to get a littlebit better with his court
vision, because there wasprobably three or four
alley-oops last night thatshould have been thrown.
There was a couple bouncepasses that he could have hit.
That could have led to a dump.
But you know that'll come overtime.
Man.
I mean you can't really teachvision.
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You've got to have that on yourmind.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
What's his name?
Tony.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Don Trill.
I can't remember his last name.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
He didn't play there last year, right?
No, he's a kid from Canada.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
He's a foreign exchange student.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, he's a point guard.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah yeah, oh, he's like Very quick.
He's quick, like hey, the boycan finish at the hoop.
I mean he had like threeamazing and ones Like finishing.
He can finish at the hoop.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Where's the 6'10 kid?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Didn't they have a kid that was supposed to come,
that was like 6'10?
They were supposed, but thatwas over that.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
That's history.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, had a kid that he played good defense last
night too.
The foreign exchange studentyeah, like they hey, defensively
they were great.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I love when they went to man.
I think what woke them up isbecause they were in that 1-3-1,
and then they went man and whatdoes it do?
It forces you to play defensewhen you play.
And then they started wreakinghavoc just playing man.
But then they started switchingup back and forth, back and
forth, make them kids playdefense.
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And it's not like they can't,you know, it's like what would
you say?
Like Christians in their gardenare guard, yeah, at 6'4".
So I think that kind of wokethem up too.
That when they went to man theyfind because sometimes I know
this from Chris sometimes whenyou sit back in a zone what
happens?
They get lazy Right.
Yeah, to me that's easy.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
They just start getting, they get lazy, you
start relying on the next man.
Oh, he's going to help, yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
A lot of times kids will get, especially if you're
not trapping in the like.
If you want them to, okay,there's a, because your mate is
like, hey, you better do it oryou're out.
But you know, if you're justsitting back and you know they
start to get a little lazy inthat zone.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And you know another thing that I noticed last night.
I mean, I ain't going to lie toyou guys.
Back in the day our high schoolcoaches always stressed it.
Chris would tell you TommyDixon, every time you catch the
ball, triple threat, triplethreat man.
I don't see none of these kidscatching the ball.
Like looking triple threat mode, you know what I'm saying.
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Like it's always, as soon asthey catch it, kids looking down
at the ground ready to put iton the ground.
Like man, where's the triplethreat man?
Come around, square up, look atthe rim.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I can give Will credit for that.
Will Square up.
Look at the rim.
I can give Will credit for that.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Will is pretty fundamentally sound, but I want
to see that a little bit moreoften man yeah from all the kids
.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
But that's because they don't see it a lot from the
NBA.
Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
So now, as the game evolves inthe big boys league, as
young'uns we all look up to allthose guys and be like, well,
they don't do that anymorenearly as much.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Well, I'm going to tell them right now they better
start watching NBA and watchcollege on the weekends.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Hey, I tell my kids I'm like you know watch the NBA.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Because a lot of college kids they still hit that
triple threat man, that triplethreat they're still being
coached in college, tony, you'renot taking away.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Taking away John Moran time from 1v1.
John Moran.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Yes, I am, you can sit there and watch his
highlights or whatever, butdon't watch these NBA cats hey
they beat the Celtics.
There's no fundamentals.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
He had a crazy reverse dunk man.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Last night, John, oh yeah, I saw that that reverse,
he had genes.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
And you've seen his interview.
He said he's not going to tryto dunk as much anymore.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I mean, hey, it's kind of smart because look at
all the cats that were like who?
First one that comes to mind isRose.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Derrick Rose right, but they're so explosive like
that it's rough.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
But it's rough on their legs.
I mean I get it Like you don'thave to, hey, but it's rough on
their legs.
I mean I get it Like you don'thave to, hey.
Everybody loves to highlightlike real, do it, you know, pump
the crap, but you know youdon't have to do it all the time
.
You know, sometimes the olderyou get, they got to get smarter
and think about their body inthe long run.
Because look what happened toDerrick Rose.
I mean, hey, he went to therack, I loved it, his I can name
(38:20):
one person that didn't happento Michael Jordan?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
No, it did happen to him, it's just father time
catches up to everybody.
Injury-wise.
Every single time they go tothe rack, they rock it.
His name is Russell Westbrook.
Yes, I love him.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Hey, I mean pick up the Russell man who's to say.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Pick up the Russ.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
You want to be aggressive and blah blah.
Hey, I mean Russell Westbrook'slongevity, but he still plays
pretty much the same way.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Number one, all-time triple doubles.
Big up Russ, but big up theJokic too.
Man, Jokic is out there balling.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh to the Wizards.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
They lost to the Wizards but I think he's like
third all-time in triple-doublesman.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
He's a center.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Well, there's a lot of centers up there with
triple-doubles yeah but not thathigh man.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
They're down, maybe like 12th or 14th.
This guy's at the top.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
He's just amazing, his court vision.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
There's no centers in the top 20, except for him and
Wilt Chamberlain.
I think that's it, wilt.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Chamberlain and Jokic .
Yeah, man, but we know recordsare always meant to be broken.
We got the kid in college rightnow, gentry, he's got an
opportunity to break BarrySanders' all-time rushing.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Well, let's speak about that, that's good.
We'll move on from that.
Let's speak about the heismanrace here real quick, and then
we'll get to your scores or your, uh, you know, nfl picks lane.
Yeah.
So who great debate.
Who should win the heisman?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
it's only sanders we'll start with you, chris and
and gentry killing it, the onlykid that plays the only kid that
plays 90 of all snaps in hisgames.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
That's ridiculous to me.
Like maybe he's not the best athis position, but he's one of
the two or three best and toplay 90% of the snaps.
Imagine like people are tiredjust playing one side of the
ball.
This guy's playing both sidesof the ball and still elite at
all of it.
I definitely think Hunter.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I'll go next man, and and I'm totally gonna agree
with my brother chris, I hate todo it to you, tony to be the
eyeball man, but listen,gentry's having a historical
season.
Man, we all know about it lesstouches, more touchdowns, more
yards than almost any back thatwe've ever seen come through
college football.
You want me to give you thestats, so hold on, get this.
(40:42):
That's when I'm done talking,though, but I'm with Chris.
I'm with Chris.
Travis Hunter plays over 90% ofthe snaps.
Man, 90% of snaps but performson both sides.
Man, just due to scoringtouchdowns on offense, turns
around, take maybe like oneplayoff and then comes up with
an interception for you, man, Imean, that's just unheard of man
(41:04):
.
And, like I said, gentry ishaving a historic season but
what Travis Hunter's doing isunheard of man.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
I get it, guys, I get it.
It's tough.
So first, before I give myopinion, I'll give you Travis
Hunter's stats.
Okay, yeah, stats this year.
This year he had 92 receptions,1,152 yards, 14 touchdowns.
Okay, what's wrong with themnumbers?
(41:34):
Nothing at all.
And then, gentry man, if it wasanother year, gentry would have
this in the bag.
This is tough.
So, gentry, stats this year 344carries, 2,497 yards and 29
touchdowns.
(41:55):
What's his average per carry?
7.7 yards a carry.
All right, it's tough man.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
But that's his set position, yeah just yeah, I got
it.
Yeah, we're talking about adude.
You gave us his offensivenumbers.
You didn't say nothing abouthis defensive numbers.
How many times has he beenthrown at this year?
What?
34 times.
How many yards has he given up?
Not a lot.
How many interceptions did hehave?
You, we're talking about a dudethat's getting it done on both
(42:25):
sides of the ball, man Right.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
That's hands down.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
I mean listen.
I don't mean to piss inGentry's cup of tea, but listen.
Great season young man, buthands down the Heisman's going
to T-Hunter All right, all right.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
So we won't forget, because, like I say, he plays
both sides of the ball.
So Travis Hunter has 30 tackles, nine pass deflections, three
interceptions and a forcedfumble.
How many yards has he given upDefense?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
And he's got pick six .
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah that man's might have gave up a little bit over
100 yards receiving this yearbro.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
It's because they learned after last year not to
throw it to his side too much.
This year Exactly.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Yeah, they learned who he was.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
At the end of the day , though, there's some Heisman
Trophy winners that go on to donothing in the pros, and vice
versa people that get snubbed,oh yeah.
So I'll give my opinion.
They've never given up aco-Hasman Trophy, have they?
No, no.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
But I'll give my opinion.
Of course it'll be close, but Ihave to agree with you guys.
We'll go back.
Travis, you play both sides ofthe ball like that, and at a
high level, the college level,d-1?
, d-1.
Okay, now, who was the last oneto do that?
Charles Woodson.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Charles.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Woodson, charles Woodson.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
He won.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Heisman Yep and won.
He won it over Peyton Manningand Randy Moss.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Yes, because he was a difference maker as well.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
I mean he didn't have the.
Wasn't there a great runningback too during that time?
Oh, I'm not sure that was upfor that, heisman.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
I'm sure Any other year he gets it hands down, like
hands down.
But when you got a specialplayer like Hunter who plays
both sides at a high level, Idon't know how you can't deny
that.
Like how many snaps, you see agame 92, 3.
It's like high, like he'sbarely out of the game.
(44:22):
He's not tired.
Yeah, he's just high, like he'sbarely out of the game, but
he's not tired.
Yeah, he's just different.
Yeah, he's different.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
So, stat-wise, I don't know what they're going to
go by.
Woodson's an all-time great,but I would rather have Peyton
Manning or Randy Moss over him.
But that could end up being thesame way.
Hey, Woodson was no slouch.
Then he might end up being theguy everybody loves in the long
run, but right now Hunter isthat guy.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah Well, I remember distinctively that.
I remember, I don't know ify'all remember, but I remember
distinctively that year Woodsontore it up.
I mean, like you say, he was agame changer.
I mean he was literallychanging, getting pick sixes and
what did he also do the thirdphase of the game.
He was a punt returner.
Also do the third phase of thegame.
(45:04):
He was a punt returner, right,so he even did.
He was on special teams.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
And then y'all got to also think of who's Travis
Hunter's coach, though he did italso.
He played both ways.
Yeah, he played both ways.
You know what I'm saying Like.
So, man, big ups to that dudeman.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, he's one of the best returners ever and he is
the best cornerback ever.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Man, I don't ever see this dude get tired.
I don't ever see this dude getcramps Like man.
Look man, that dude's a warriorman.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
He's an ultimate warrior.
That's why he's got that.
What is it the D for dog?
Speaker 3 (45:34):
on their jersey, yeah , and then still have the energy
to do the dance on you in theend zone.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
That's a lot got energy man, that dude be
breaking it down every time hescores.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
So yeah, I mean, hey, much love to Jetchy.
It sucked, but he's going to dobig things.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
I mean, he might win it.
I just don't think so.
I think the hype is too hypefor Hunter.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Yeah, it's a hard pick, we'll see.
The only way I don't see TravisHunter winning is just all the
Colorado hate.
You see how people are hatingon DIF All the hate.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah, I'm just here to say Gentry already got his
award.
Man, he got the best runningback in college football.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
He got that award, the Walker or whatever.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah, just be happy with that man.
Go make your money in theleague.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
He's first team All-American hands down, of
course.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I see him being like a Christian McCaffrey in the
league, though, Gentry.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I don't want to see that because McCaffrey get hurt.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Well, not that aspect of it, but you know what I mean
, Jeez Chris.
All right, we're going to goahead and move on.
Get this thing wrapped up, man.
All right, go ahead and move on.
Get this thing wrapped up, man.
Last week I was 62 on theparlay, week before I was 9-1.
So I mean, we're staying onthat high end side, man.
My losses.
Last week I took the Saintsover the Rams, which I lost, and
(47:00):
then I took the Bengals to beatPitt.
So those were my two upsetgames, as I told y'all last week
.
But I should have just wentwith my gut instinct.
But it happens, let's make somemoney this week.
So this week I got the Saintsover the Giants, I got the
Steelers over the Browns, theVikings over the Falcons, the
Buccaneers over the Raiders,philly over Carolina, the
(47:23):
Dolphins over the Jets,seattle's over the Cardinals and
, of course, you know, theChiefs are going to beat the
Chargers.
It'll probably be another coolthing.
Yeah, it'll probably be agame-winning field goal.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
There's got to be an upset in there somewhere.
And the Jets got to win oneeventually.
Yeah, and can they keep losing?
The Jets, they got to wineventually.
Who are they playing again?
Speaker 3 (47:43):
It's not going to help Miami.
The Jets are playing Miami, butit's not going to help having.
They might shut Brees Hall downfor the season.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
So he's not playing today.
They might see him now play.
They're talking about moving onfrom Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
Yeah, they might.
Bench Rodgers, why not man?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Here's the thing, that's a whole other topic.
I'm not even upset.
I got to go to work after thisshow.
All the games I heard here'sthe two best games of the day
Dolphins, jets, seattle andCardinals.
Like that's the best thing on aSunday slate, I'm all right, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
I think one that's good on a slate Pittsburgh,
cleveland, yeah, because that'sa rival game.
But I was going to say becausehe's facing his former team, I'm
going to say Kirk Cousins andthe Falcons.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Oh yeah, and the Vikings are balling, so yeah,
they need Kirk to show up,exactly.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
And Kirk's got some weapons.
And I'll tell you somebody thatreally has not shown up, man,
and this kid was an animal incollege, Kyle Pitts.
Where's Kyle Pitts been at man?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Right.
He had a good game once every10 games.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Y'all can call me crazy if you want it, but
throwing it in today, kyle Pittsscores two touchdowns.
Ooh, that's a good one though.
Kyle Pitts for two touchdownstoday.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Tony, y'all got a bye .
No, we play Monday night.
Hey, tell the people we havethe Bengals Monday night Dallas
and Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Hey, tony, tell the people what you sent me Thursday
, man, but I was at a WashingtonWizards game Thursday and
didn't even have time to put thebet in.
Tony tells me Tim Patrick, onThursday night, is going to
score two touchdowns at a plus6,000.
What does Tony not do?
Tony, don't put the bet in.
What did Tim Patrick do, people?
He scored two touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Hey, I can't take credit for that.
That's our boy, Brian.
Yeah, man, he's the brother outthere that gives parlays and
bets for people.
So I was like man, I was goingto play this and I didn't.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
I just can't believe you didn't play it because you
sent it to me, right?
Yeah, I forgot you knowbetting's not my top priority in
life I think you would have wonoff a ten dollar bet what you
would have won oh, you got like600, like 600 off every 10, the
odds of that off of every 10,you would have got 600, yeah, or
100 at least.
So you would have won 1200 ifyou put a 20 point in there,
(50:08):
yeah yeah, I'll stop.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
I'm kicking myself right now.
It's all good we're going intoday, man, but all right,
everybody, that'll wrap it upfor, uh, brothers with opinions
and everybody.
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channel at brothers withopinions weions.
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We have 15 subscribers now whosubscribe to our YouTube channel
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Speaker 4 (51:11):
All right, everybody, have a great day and enjoy your
football.
We're going to have a fish fryright now, all right?
Cheers everybody Cheers Brodown Big voice, no voice, no
silence.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Revolution, televised ain't no good, in private not.
Knowledge to the ignorant ain'tnever been bliss.
Stand up and be heard.
We, the new activists.
Yeah, brothers with opinion,let the convo begin.
You know, communication key.
But then you must comprehend.
Preach b-w-o, let your voicesbe heard.
We enlightened by the truth,and now we spreading the word.
Let's go.
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(51:47):
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Man, they told us we wasworthless.
We believed in the lie.
We took it way too literal whenBig said ready to die.
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