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Ever wonder if the pursuit of eternal youth is actually robbing us of a good death—and maybe even a good life? 

Healthcare advocate and author Hattie Bryant joins us to challenge the myths of modern medicine’s death-denying culture. From the over-treatment epidemic to the rise of supplement obsession and longevity hype, Hattie brings decades of wisdom and clarity to a conversation too many of us avoid.

We dig into why Americans are afraid to die, how our system profits from that fear, and what it really takes to have a life—and death—on your own terms.

Main Topics Covered:

  • Why we’re afraid to die and what that’s doing to our health choices
     
  • The rise of "health perfectionism" and supplement addiction
     
  • Does longevity = vitality, or just a longer slow death?
     
  • The truth behind those flashy anti-aging clinical claims
     
  • How spiritual emptiness fuels the obsession with living forever
     
  • What living well really looks like, and why it includes dying well
     

Hot Takes:

  • “You’re not extending life; you’re prolonging death.”
     
  • “We used to die of pneumonia. Now we die of protocols.”
     
  • “Fifty years ago, we planned our estate. Now we plan to upload our consciousness.”
     

A Better Path:
Instead of trying to hack death, what if we focused on hacking life—with clarity, purpose, and soul-centered health choices?

Closing Advice:
Let’s stop fearing death and start fearing regret. Choose how you want to live—and how you want to leave. This episode isn’t about fear. It’s about freedom.
 

Bio!

Hattie Bryant has made a living since 1979 in adult education, public speaking, seminar and continuing education curriculum development, and television production for PBS stations. At the age of 27, while working as a public relations specialist for the University of North Texas, she decided she should either sell something or own something.

After two years of research, she incorporated a business, Leadership Development Corporation, and while developing her own materials, she worked through a leading franchisor of business education materials. In that group she was among its top ten performers out of hundreds.

For the next fifteen years, she taught management, sales and customer service in the classrooms of hundreds of small businesses and from the convention platform. She presented seminars in 47 states and produced teaching materials for customers like ABC and Frito-Lay.

In 1993 Hattie began working with her husband, Bruce Camber, to bring the “best practices” of small business owners to public television, and since 1994 they have created more 300 half-hour episodes of Small business School featuring small business owners in 34 states and 150 cities. With sponsorship from IBM, the United States Postal Service, Verizon, Qwest, Travelers, Dun & Bradstreet, AT&T, MassMutual and Microsoft, Small Business School reached into millions of US homes via some 300 PBS member stations and around the world via the USA’s Voice of America.

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