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In this episode of B.S. with Tommy and Wes, the boys are on a walk and discuss the movie "Sinners", Energy Drinks, their top 25 Superheroes - PLUS just like Eve, the forbidden fruit causes horrific endings on Wrestling Survivor🍎🔥

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(00:00):
Hey guys, before we get started I just want to pop in and say
thank you for listening. And if you haven't already,
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mentioned are in the descriptionbelow.
Now on to the episode. Welcome, welcome, welcome to BS

(00:22):
with Tommy and Wes. Good morning and welcome on this
beautiful Monday to another episode of BS with Tommy and
Wes. As always, I am Wesley Crane and
I am here with my illustrious cohort Tommy.
But before we get started, I just like to say to all the moms

(00:44):
out there holding it down, hope you had a fantastic Mother's
Day. You guys deserve it.
Absolutely. I'll do we dude, we're a little
rusty here. We we got to switch it up now
it's not morning anymore. It's not morning.
It's not the afternoon. Good afternoon.
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Noon. Oh my goodness.
So have you had anything interesting go on lately?

(01:06):
Oh. Nothing, nothing.
Nothing. I clicked my toenails.
Yeah, that was how it was. Nice.
Big step for you. Oh, yeah, dude, any time I start
to feel my toenails, I actually feel like, so I actually like
I'm doing. I do a lot of walking.
We're actually walking right now.
We are walking right now. We are kind of circling around
the very lovely Regal Warren Theater here in Broken Arrow

(01:28):
right down the street from our our homes.
But no, it's whenever I start tofeel like my toenails kind of
like clip at the top of my shoes.
I know it's time. I know it's time.
I know it's time. But yeah, we do this.
We, we, it's, it's afternoon now.
It is the afternoon. Also got to say, as of the time
that we are recording this today, unfortunately, also on

(01:51):
Mother's Day, we have lost a legend.
We have we lost a legend. It's sad.
We lost a real one. We lost the legendary, the, the
suicidal, homicidal genocide, death defying Sabu, man, I'll
tell you what I wrote like RobinDam's my favorite wrestler of
all time. Yep, He's my favorite wrestler.

(02:12):
Watching him and going back and watching his stuff and then
seeing Sabu and being like, Oh my God, I think that's the first
time in my life I ever saw a real motherfucker.
So. Dude I have I have memories of
watching Sabu back in like 1999.I don't remember what event it

(02:34):
was, but I remember my dad working in ECW event at one
point and he brought home a bunch of little action figures
and he brought home a Hardcore Heaven tape and I remember
watching that until it stopped working.
Yeah, dude, I man. So going back and being able to
watch that Boo was like so cool because like, oh man, I wish I
could see this guy now. And then around that, like not

(02:56):
too long later, WWE started to do the re advanced DCW.
Yeah, but before like leading into that, it was a lot of older
ECW guys coming in and getting to see Sabu like Russell John
Cena, like in an extreme roles match on fucking Monday Night
raw was crazy. Especially because like this is
also starting to be the time where everybody hated John Cena

(03:17):
listen and see and Sabu come in and just drop the fucking lame
drop on him through the table. Oh, it was beautiful.
Love Sabu. Listen, I know he's not like the
greatest human being in the world, but Vinny Mack had some
brilliant moments. Vinny Mack.
Just saying. Vinny Mack.
But yeah, like you said, we are circling the Warren Theater

(03:38):
here. Where?
Where? Right up the street where we
live. I actually got to see a movie
that you have been just really, really pushing for me to go see.
You're like. Math mouth orgasms about this
movie. So I went and watched it, and
that movie is Sinners. Yes.
You asked me before we started recording.

(04:00):
You're like, all right, all right, just give it to me.
One out of 10. What did I say?
Said. Ten said 10.
Depending with the old Thai Dillinger.
Listen, this is the first time I'm going to say this out loud.
OK. I think I watched my favorite
movie. Do you think this is?
It I think this is my. Favorite Favorite movie?
You have an answer now. I think I have an answer buddy.

(04:21):
This is my favorite movie. Nice to meet you.
Welcome to the go. Yeah, dude.
Hell yeah, man. You know what?
I'm not going to argue a single bit with you because this, I
told you when I watched this movie, he was like, I was like,
this movie's really fucking good.
You have to watch. And he was like, oh, is it that
good? I was like, brother movie of the
decade. Yeah, not necessarily that it's

(04:43):
going to be my favorite movie ormy most enjoyable movie, but
watching it like it, like I think it might just objectively
be the movie of the decade. I so I gave it 10.
Yes, there are a couple things that I have qualms with.
I should say I already mentionedone of them two earlier the the

(05:04):
ending. Yeah, because technically, like,
look, there's no such thing as aperfect movie.
No, no, there will never be. Like, just like in wrestling,
there's no such thing as a perfect match, right?
Like, everything's going to haveissues, but it's still kind of a
perfect movie. It's still kind of a fucking
perfect movie. So watching it at the Warren, I,
I saw it on one of their biggestscreens, not in a balcony, but

(05:29):
we were like 2nd to last row. OK, fantastic seat.
I just think that that big of a screen kind of washes some of
the color out. OK.
And I wasn't able to see the saturated blacks that I feel
like are in that movie. I immediately wanted to watch it

(05:50):
again. Dude, I'm I'm with you.
I'm with you. Like I would have sat through a
second showing. Dude, it's so good.
Yeah, it's so good. That I'm hesitant to say that
that may have pushed Michael B Jordan into my favorite actor
spot as whoa, that's. Crazy.

(06:11):
Yeah, we did talk like I didn't mention on this podcast, I like
Michael B Jordan is becoming like him.
I he is a phenomenal actor. I don't think I would go that
far though. I will go that far simply based
off of the fact that in this film he plays two different
characters with two different personalities while being the

(06:37):
same personality. Does that make sense?
I Yep, I I get it. Like when you're that close with
your brother. Yeah, but each brother has their
own individual Ness, right? Their own individuality, right?
Like he played them both perfectly.
Correct. That's insane to.

(07:00):
Me, it's it's an Oscar worthy performance.
But I got to say like I, I thinkI told you this on the last
episode too. The guy that plays our cousin,
Yeah, kind of steals the show for me.
Him and the the lead antagonist,OK, they kind of steal the show,
especially because that cousin, it's his first movie.
Yeah, yeah, first ever movie, which is crazy so.

(07:20):
I mentioned it to you and if andif anybody listening has an
answer I would love to hear please, please let us know.
I asked if his voice was real orwas that after?
Was that ADR? Was that done after the fact?
I don't know if there was any effects done to it.
I I think he's making that voice.

(07:41):
Whether or not that's how he actually talks or not, I don't
know. Like that was it.
It's trippy because the whole time I was watching his mouth
trying to match the audio to it.Like because I couldn't tell if
maybe they recorded a voice after the fact or if he was
doing that on set or what was going on.
But it was the sound of his voice is distinctly different
than the rest. I imagine it's probably a bit of

(08:03):
both, maybe? So if anybody's got an answer I
would love to know because I'm aI'm a weird film nerd like.
That fantastic man. It was a nine to a 9.5 for me.
Like I don't necessarily I don'tnecessarily have issues with the
movie, but there are things where it's like things that not,
I'm not going to say necessarilypull the movie back, but stop it
from being a 10. OK, Is that like when it comes I

(08:27):
I wish I hadn't watched the second trailer of this movie and
not knowing it was a vampire movie because I think that would
have made the movie even better.Not knowing it was a vampire
movie and that shit just happens.
But going into it knowing that it's a vampire movie, like they
keep the vampire stuff super simple.
Yes, and I think it works, but it doesn't do anything new.

(08:51):
I don't think I, I don't, I don't think I needed it.
To, I don't know, Yeah, definitely.
I don't need it to at all. But I think that's what stops it
from being a 10 for me. Is that like it did everything
really good, but it didn't do anything super crazy that I
haven't seen before. It didn't shock me in any way.
So I think that's the only thingthat kind of stops it from being
a 10 for me. See, I have the.

(09:13):
I have almost the opposite take.As far as it not shocking me, it
did shock me at how simple they kept the vampires.
Yeah, but they they kept them simple.
They kept them interesting. The fucking vampire musical part
was awesome. Yep.
I love that so much. That was probably like the the
main thing that they did. Crazy.
That was different because we had a fucking vampire musical at

(09:33):
one point. Like Culty.
This movie is not a musical though.
But no, it's not a musical. But it does pay a lot of tribute
and respect to some music history as a whole.
Yes. So very, very good movie.
I I I would say. There's a heavy influence on the
Blues, but I'm not going to complain about that.
I fucking love the Blues. Listen.
Sinners was great, but you Sir, you missed out.

(09:54):
You missed out on the movie. Sinners might be the movie of
the decade, but you missed out on the movie of the century, my
friend. OK, let me tell you a little bit
about this epic banger called Clown and a Cornfield.
I say that like it's like I'm being super sarcastic and I am,
but like, like it's, I'm saying that like I'm about to tear down

(10:14):
this movie. I'm not going to do that.
I actually very much enjoyed Clown in a Cornfield.
I can't say too much about it because there is a kind of A
twist in the middle that's like,huh, OK, like this movie is
predictable to all hell, especially after the twist
happens. But like, there is a moment
where you go like, huh, there's no way.

(10:35):
There's got to be something. Oh, shit.
OK, so that's what's happening right now.
OK, let's. Well, fuck me.
Let's. Let's see where this goes.
And it becomes all predictable after that point, but it's fine.
It's still very enjoyable. I will say the ending left me a
little unfulfilled. But one thing I did not know is
that this movie is based off of a book, a very recent book from

(10:59):
the year 2020 with two sequels. So not a lot of time in between
movie and book, but it did make me want to go read the books.
So I will probably be doing that.
But clown in the horn. Yeah, sure.
That was clown in a cornfield. It's a fun time for me.
I'm going to give it a 6.5, possibly A7.

(11:21):
I will say the teenage characters that you usually are
just meat sacks. Not all of them are just meat
sacks in this movie. I like, I like some of these
characters. OK, There's good, there's good.
There's some good character build.
You know what isn't good? I have not seen this film, Yes,
but you know what isn't good? Immediately that stands out to
me, The name sounds like a firstdraft name.

(11:42):
Oh, dude. Like, why does it?
Why does that sound like they wrote that on the paper first?
I don't know but I weirdly I'm into it.
I think they they definitely could have chosen a better name.
Probably. You know what I didn't realize
is that so the the classic movie, The thing is based off of
a book. And another thing I did not know

(12:04):
is that is not the first movie based off of that book.
But it's not a remake of anothermovie.
Really. Yeah.
I don't remember what the name of the first movie is, but
there's a like a 1951 movie based off the exact same book.
But The thing is not a remake ofthat movie.
It's just a a different adaptation of the book.

(12:25):
There are two different film adaptations.
I. Had no idea.
I didn't either, but it made me want to go read that book and
watch the other movie. So just bring that up because
it's movie to movie to book comparison, it matches.
Fuck yeah. Another movie I watched recently
is Thunderbolts. OK.
I liked it a lot. Did you?
I will say I've watched, I've watched a lot of reviews on it

(12:47):
because I want to see other people's take.
I want there there. There are very few YouTube
channels I watch now for becauseI want to see what they think of
it because I have similar opinions.
I will I will say this now, Jeremy Johns love his movie
reviews, 3C films and new rock stars.
I do also like dead meat reviewsand like the we watch the movie

(13:09):
guys. Yeah, I typically don't
necessarily have the same opinion as them all the time,
right. So when it comes to like, I want
to know what I might think aboutthis movie.
Those are the three channels I typically watch.
OK I will say like all three of them had different opinions but
I'm not going to say any of themare wrong except for New
Rockstars. New Rockstars called
Thunderbolts the best movie since in game.

(13:31):
I think Eric Voss, as much as I love him to death, is just
sucking that Kevin Feige Dick because it is not the best movie
since in game. It is very good though.
It is very very good. But it's not.
I don't even know if it's top five really.
I don't even know if it's top five movies since in game in
game is is is awesome. Thunderbolts is a great movie.

(13:54):
It takes a bunch of side characters from previous movies
and the Disney Plus show and it makes you care about just about
every single one of them. I will say some of the
characters shine way more than others, but this movie is a very
fun fucking time. OK.
And it is kind of a tribute to that kind of old, old, old
school or more style of introducing characters in a
Marvel movie. Like it's not just Disney Plus

(14:17):
Cog machine kind of feel, right?This movie kind of rules and it
has one of the best Postscript scenes I've ever seen.
OK, just going to say that too. So you being, I would say, a
marvel. Just call it what it is.
Call it what it is. It's a Marvel Dick Rider.
I'm a Marvel. Dick Rider being a Marvel Dick

(14:37):
Rider, would you recommend this to someone like me who may not
be so? Yes, I I would actually, yeah, I
would. I do think there's movies
getting some criticisms that I don't feel are actually
deserved. Like there's a lot of criticism
for Bucky in this movie. Yeah, like a lot of like,
reviewers and like IGN, you know, they, I, I used to agree

(15:00):
with IGN a lot. Now IGN can fucking suck a Dick.
IGN could suck a Dick. Don't like their takes any more.
But but like, I really like Bucky in my own way in this
movie because it's not super hard found in this movie.
But this movie, it's this movie is kind of a metaphor for

(15:20):
depression and bipolarism. So there's there's a scene where
people are kind of like revisiting their past, you know?
Yeah. And we don't see that with Bucky
in this movie and we don't see it with a few characters.
But The thing is, is like when Ilook at this, when I look at
Bucky as a whole, we've seen everything we need to see about
Bucky's past. We've seen him grow and show

(15:44):
that his past doesn't define whohe is today and be his own man.
I don't need to see all that revisited in this movie.
What I do like about this movie is that he is a representation
for these other characters who are now going through and
experiencing all this. Because there's even a scene in
this movie where he's like, hey,I've been where all you guys
are. I've been through all of this.
Learn from me. So yeah, I but I do definitely

(16:11):
recommend this movie. OK, the reason I ask is because
there's posters all over the inside of my job for it.
Because in the movie, one of thecharacter was it, is it Bucky?
The rides of motorcycle? OK, the motorcycle he's riding
is the Harley-Davidson Pan America.
And so we've been advertising the movie all over the fucking

(16:31):
place. So I genuinely didn't want to
watch it because I see the poster everywhere.
And then. But now hearing how much you
liked it and that you would recommend it, I might just check
it out. I'll definitely get this movie.
I'm OK. So I'm going to give a little
spoiler warning here. I'm not going to say it out

(16:55):
loud, but I will say if you do, you pay how much of the credits
do you pay attention to? Not the credit scenes, but the
credits themselves. Like the names?
I mostly on the back end when itgets to like the songs.
I don't typically pay attention to the song unless I hear
something that really got my ear.
Here's the deal. I'm going to tell you this so

(17:16):
you have a warning. If you look at the soundtrack
for the movie, The very last song is a spoiler for the post
credit scene. Really.
I didn't notice it on 1st watch.On 2nd watch, I noticed it
because I had kind of been pointed out already.
But there is there's there's a massive post credit scene, like

(17:37):
post post credits like at the very end.
Yep, It's the longest post credits scene in Marvel history
and it's it's very much like it it.
This might just be a a scene from an up, let's just say an
upcoming Marvel Avengers movie. OK.
I never like how the end of Ant Man, like the post credit scene
was just a scene from Civil War.Yeah, it's this feels like that.

(17:59):
OK, so and there's there's a soundtrack that plays at the
very end of this post credit scene that shows up in the
credits before the scene happens.
So if you look at the soundtracks, you will have
somewhat of a spoiler for the post credit scene.
OK, so fair warning going into it if you want to be surprised.
Fuck yeah, all right. What up?

(18:20):
All right, I got to move on because I've been waiting to
open up this bad boy. Hey Wesley Crane, it's time for
everyone's new favorite segment.Yeah, what you drinking?
I am drinking the We talked about it a little bit on the
last podcast, or mentioned it anyway.
The Ryze. Grape.

(18:41):
Kool-aid flavor It's it's prettydamn good It it's and it's
really, really accurate to the grape kool-aid flavor.
I feel like I feel like grape kool-aid has a different flavor
than other artificial grape things.
I was. Never a grape kool-aid fan, I
wasn't as a kid growing up drinking kool-aid.
You see, There was a war, though, in my house.

(19:02):
OK, there was fruit punch and then there was tropical punch,
and there was a big war between those two flavors.
They're not the same. No, they're not.
I loved them both, but I did have a side.
Are you a Fruit Punch Man or areyou a Tropical Punch Man?
Oh OK, I have to set the scene. OK, it's a hot summer day.

(19:22):
I'm talking you're fucking sweating balls.
OK, nothing else can quench yourthirst but a fresh iced glass of
tropical. OK, I'm going to do the same.
I'm going to set the scene for you.
It's 3:00 AM on a fall evening. Fall evening on a fall night.

(19:47):
OK. All right, I've had way too much
meatloaf and candy. It's three.
AMI woke up. Usually my go to would be an
enormous glass of milk with a lot of strawberry syrup.
OK, the milk is gone and so is the strawberry syrup.
Not because they're out. They're just hidden from me.

(20:07):
People picked up on my tactics. So what am I going to do?
I'm going to make some Kool-aid.I open it up.
I you know, there's the usual. Three, yeah.
Lemon lime, Yep. Grape, Yep.
And fruit punch? Yep.
But today or tonight I should say, there's a blue packet and I
thought I was a fruit Punch man and then I had this tropical
punch with probably an extra cupof sugar.

(20:28):
Yep. Which in my house a normal
couples too, so that's already alot.
So we throw in an extra cup of sugar, we get our spatula out,
but we turn it upside down and we stir.
We make the tornado because we're fucking 8 years old.
Actually, that was like 11 either way.
And then we get one of those QuikTrip size 64 oz cups and we

(20:51):
pour almost the entire pitcher into it.
And we go microwave ourselves some fish sticks and we turn on
2006 Magnum versus Raw Panties Match because we're secretly
trying to explore about ourselves here.
And we take that per sip of Tropical Punch kool-aid.
And let's just say I didn't needto play that bra on Panties
match anymore. I don't know what it is about

(21:14):
tropical punch that I think it'sbecause you get that fruit punch
undertone, but then you get likemango and other like exotic
flavors on that high tone, on the high note of it all, which
like I don't know, it's sandwiches perfectly.
Together, it's so good. It's so I forgot I had fish
sticks. All right, but I we will go to

(21:37):
this segment because I got really thirsty.
Yeah. So I'm drinking for the first
time. I've never tried this before.
I am drinking the Black Rifle 0 sugar freedom punch energy
drink. Yes.
Never tried this before. Never had black Rifle energy?
Nope. Have you ever had their coffee?
No, never. I've never had black rifle
anything. So black Rifle is actually a

(21:58):
coffee company? Oh shit, crack it open real
quick. Yeah, so Black Rifle is a
coffee. Company and we give that crack a
four out of 10. So them coming out with an
energy drink was crazy to me. I will say it smelled like the
fruit punched Kool-aid, but theydid not taste that way at all.
There's no artificial colorings on that either.

(22:20):
Oh, OK. It's completely clear.
I feel like the flavors there, but then it's not.
Yeah, I feel like it disappears when it hits my tongue.
So like it's on my tongue and I'm like, oh, there's free punch
and then it's gone. I'm like, no, come back.
Please. That's one of the ones we have
in the vending machine at work. OK.
And so I tried it after being recommended it by a listener.

(22:43):
After trying that, I decided that next week I'm just going to
do the entire lineup and I'm going to try every single one
that they make that I can get myhands on.
This was not intentional. I didn't mean to grab like the
same energy drink. That was not the doubt to say
that I don't appreciate the recommendation.
I just this was not intentional.We were.
I think it's, I think it's fucking.
Great that like we were referredthat and the last thing

(23:05):
everybody else heard was that I would try it, you would not you
would ignore it all and here we.Are I would have ignored.
You're the one. You're the.
One trying it on, you're not unaware.
I I went into war. So OK, I had AI had a an old
classic, an old faithful. I had the great blossoms ghost
because it's fucking delicious. And I finished it before we

(23:27):
started recording right. So we went into Walmart to get a
new energy drink and I was looking for anything else.
Somebody's not like a Dick. I was looking for like the
fucking the Waltz's ghost. I was looking for a cherry lime
prime or any any rain that wouldhave done and like that Walmart

(23:50):
was just out any type of C4. A fucking prime energy would
like a like a regular one would have been nice.
And I couldn't find anything. So it's like, all right.
My choices are 0 sugar plain monster which is good, white
monster which is also good and this.
So I was like, Oh yes, I'll try something new for the podcast.

(24:13):
You know what's really crazy to me is the white the the white
monster kind of created its own sub niche flavor of energy
drink. The also like, so much so that
like every single person that makes an energy drink or every
company that makes an energy drink has tried to make that
flavor. Oh man, isn't that wild dude.

(24:34):
Anyways, thanks for the recommendation.
Black rifle energy. See, here's the thing.
I'm I'm I'm looping all black rifle energy into this because I
got freedom punch and I don't like any like like any kind of
punch is my favorite flavor. Yeah, so your blue razz, your
weird flavors, your original probably not going to be better

(24:55):
than this. They have the the Arctic cone
and that's supposed to be like the white monster.
Yeah. Now I'm going to try it, so
listen. I this is this is a four.
Out, it's in. I drank 1 the other day.
OK, I am going to try the entireline up, or at least however
many I can get my hands on on next week's episode.
But. My verdict on that was that it

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tasted like a seltzer water witha little.
Bit more flavor. That do not.
OK, that's. What's but not enough flavour
that I would like? Really want one of these, you
know what I mean? It's like seltzer water but less
bite. Yes, there's not enough.
Bite to it, yeah? And the flavours gone too.
Fast, yes. I will say though, it's like

(25:44):
something I get off of the rise energy drinks that I didn't get
with that one, is that the the sugar substitutes that they use
in the rise one like coats the back of my throat a little bit.
OK. Whereas like that doesn't, OK,
OK. So that's something I will give
it. Now.
That's not something that is. So it's not such a deterrent for

(26:06):
me that I'm going to make that switch.
You know what I mean? But it's just something I
noticed. Well, I appreciate the
accidental recommendation. It's probably not one guy I'm
going to. The one guy that's also the one
guy in every other category. He's the one guy that likes
hearing me talk about books. Yep.
The one guy that probably likes hearing me talk about Marvel.

(26:27):
Yep, he's the he's the guy. Dude.
I talked about Marvel and I didn't get to do my intro.
Now I'm sad. That's OK, because we have a top
25 list to get through. What?
Yep, we do. Yeah.
Now you made the post, correct? I did.
OK, So what was the post? Fill in the blank top 25 blank

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and then we were assaulted with random shit.
There was a lot of them. The people spoke.
The people. I mean, like two people said
like 8 thanks, yeah. Top 25 Hot takes Top 25 cereal.
Listen, there were several of them that sounded appetizing.

(27:08):
Appetizing. Shot 25 fast food items.
The one we landed on though, yeah, I feel like is a great one
to start with. It is because we're diving into
the top 25 superheroes. Superheroes.
That's not Marvel. That's not DC.
That's. Everything OK and that let let's
just say I I forgot to mention this at the top.

(27:29):
This is our 25th episode. It is.
That's why we decided to do this.
Yes, 25 episodes of bullshit. Yes, who The Who the fuck We
would have made it so. Far all the bullshit.
You know that like 80% of podcasts that start don't make
it past like 10 episodes? I think you said that on episode
10. Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, that's so crazy. So the fact that we're 25 in
quarter, yes, we're going to make it, Yeah, sure.

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Now back to the episode. So yes, you and I, we have come
together and we have made a top 25 list of superheroes.
We've made separate lists. We kind of based them on
whatever we separately chose to base our list on.

(28:35):
I will say mine are based on howmuch I like these characters,
who's my favorite, who made the best impression on me?
Who do I just who, who was I feeling at the time that I made
this list? Yeah.
I will also say, like the top five to 10 are kind of like, OK,
yeah, these are like, these are my number ones and twos,
whatever. There's a point.

(28:56):
We're in the middle. I'd say from like #9 to #22
where it's like I just started throwing people in there kind of
that I knew that I, that I know I like that I wanted to be on
this list. I didn't really order them all
that well, but they're kind of in the general area, like 15

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through 20 or probably 15 through 20.
Just I don't know if they're in,you know, which one's 15 or
which one's 20. They're all kind of in that
order though. But I'm not going to change a
thing. What did you base your list off
of? So, OK, something that I think
is important to kind of point out is that throughout this
process of listening to each of our top 20 fives, they're going

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to learn a little bit about us as people, something we like.
They're going to take a little bit of a look into our
childhood. I feel like because your list
is, I would dare say predominantly Marvel.
Okay, my list is predominantly DC.
I'm going to tell you right now I've got 2 DC characters on my

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list. OK, I have more than two Marvel
characters, but I've got 2. My list is predominantly DC.
I've got 2 Marvel or not not. I got 2 DC characters and I've
got one who's not DC or Marvel. I think I've got 3 so.
I had I had originally more I decide I'm going to say this
right now spoilers. I took the ninja rolls off OK, I

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was going to I was going to put some ninja.
I was going to put RAF and Leo. I decided not to.
But they didn't make my cut either.
It's. OK, I'm not going to give all of
my honorable mentions right now,but they are honorable mentions.
Shout out to the ninja trails. Fucking love the ninja trails.
OK, so who? Who should go first?
We got to we got to base off a penis.
Size OK, a solid 2. You know what I think on a

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normal day I'm less than that, but when I get hard.
I'm talking diagonally. What?
You know what? How about you just go first?
OK, so we're going to run this backwards.
We're going to go 25 all the wayto 1 #25 Simon Bellamy.

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He's a character on the show Misfits.
If you haven't seen Misfits yet,get on Hulu and watch Misfits.
I have not seen misfits. The first, like the first Four
Seasons are fucking awesome. OK, so yeah #24 Nathan Young
from Misfits, he's he's one of the main main characters of the

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show, and I think he's just the right balance of Dick Henry and
hilarious. Plus he doesn't really find out
his power until like, he leaves the show.
OK, that's pretty fun. Should we do one more lap around
the Warren and then start heading back?

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Sure. OK, I forgot we also have
another thing off the list, but go ahead.
Yes, yeah, OK #23 we got Nightcrawler.
Oh yeah, come coming out with a with a left fielder.
I have no idea. I.
Think somebody yelled at us? Oh, cat calling.
Oh, you know what? You know what?

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We have two very different perspectives.
Because my instinct was like fuck you redneck.
And he can. Speak was like he wants to see
the crane. Like hey girl, you'll see my
crane hole. OK, so #2023 is Nightcrawler. 23
is Nightcrawler, 22 Punisher. Yeah, love that 21 Raven.

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Oh, are you talking like Teen Titans, Raven?
Yes. OK, yes, let's see #20 we got
Blade, OK? Yeah.
Fuck yeah, Blade #19 Captain America, OK #18 Peacemaker
because he would say fuck Captain America.
Fuck Captain America. Actually, I think he said.

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Fuck Batman. He did say fuck Batman, we'll
get to Batman #17 we got Wolverine #16 only fitting.
Deadpool OK after Deadpool at #15 we got Daredevil.
OK, 14 Beast Boy. Oh.
Yeah, love me some Beast Boy #13we got Superman, specifically

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Henry Cavill's Superman. Have to stress that enough.
I felt like Cavill's Superman was perfect.
It is like a perfect balance of that.
Like I want peace and justice toalso like people should be
afraid of him. And if he were to snap, because
there were a few points he did #12 we got Lucifer.

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Yeah, believe it or not, Luciferis ADC.
Character. I know that.
Yeah. So is God.
Yes. Yeah.
So Lucifer makes the list #12 #11 I got Damian Wayne's Robin,
specifically Damian Wayne at #10we got another Robin coming in
at Nightwing, you know, Dick Grayson.

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Let's see at #9 we're at the, we're at the top 10 here.
OK, so #9 I got the Incredible Hulk.
The one I immediately envision is the Edward Norton Hulk.
But I suppose that can just go for anyone that was titled The
Incredible Hulk. I'm taking, I'm taking one

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person off my list. He's not my 25, but I'm taking
him off my list and I'm I'm adding somebody else that I
forgot to add. OK.
Oh, no, go ahead, continue. At #8 we have Venom at #7 four
number six, we have Red Hood. Let's see.
Here's where it's going to get fun.

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The top five, these are the onesthat so for my list, I
strategically put the top five and then just kind of listed OK
afterward for sure. So the top five are the ones
that I strategically placed in these.
Positions for a reason. #5 Spawn.
Oh my God I forgot about Spawn and I did not list them that

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used to. Dude that was my favorite movie.
Yes. Like I just recently like.
Fucking so much of my life I just.
Recently went back and watched. It it still holds up.
I love that movie so much. I'm I I cannot add him to my
list. I can't make any more changes.
I just made one change because Iwanted to put someone on my list
when I first started about startthinking about this list and I
forgot so, but I'm not going to make any more changes.

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But God damn it. Spawn, spawn #4 Hancock.
Hancock, yeah #3 Spider man. Oh shit.
OK, yeah, here we go. And #2 and #1 go hand in hand,
but I have a strong argument forwhy the other one makes number
one. OK, so #2 we have Batman, OK,

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and the number one goes to Iron Man.
The reason Iron Man edges him out is solely because I believe
that Tony Stark is a smarter individual and is more ruthless
than Batman is willing to. Get I thought you were going to
say because Batman's a pussy. No, just like John Steven.

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But I, I believe that, like, Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne are
essentially the same fucking character.
They're super smart, They have all the riches and technology.
I just think that Iron Man is willing to blast somebody's face
off well before Batman's willingto.
OK. However, Batman does kind of get
a couple bonus points for aesthetics, OK?

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Because you know, black on blacks kind of fucking awesome.
I do have a couple. I do have a couple honorable
mentions. These are not DC or Marvel
characters. OK?
This is just because, I mean, this is BS of Tommy and Wes.
A little bit of a little bit of bullshitter goes a long way.
So my honorable mentions are Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy.

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I love it, I love it. Shout out to Bikini Bottom.
Shout out to Bikini Bottom. All right, so all right, mine.
I love that the OR I feel like no, OK, I'm not going to give my
honourable man still the way first, even though there's some
thick ones that are missing fromthis list.
My #25 and he barely made the cusp.

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Like I said, Ike, like it was down to him and three other
people, and I barely put this gentleman on here.
And even when I just met took somebody off, I still kept him
on because I I genuinely like I he was always in the back of my
mind while I was thinking about this.
It's Shung Chi. I thought about him when I was
making my list. I didn't know shit about Chung
Chi until that movie, but that movie is so I I love that movie.

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I think it is the most underrated movie since any game
that's come out. Yeah, I'll agree.
I remember you, you you messagedme after you watched Chung Chi.
And he was like, I have a new favorite Marvel movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My #24 this was the spot that
got switched. And it my #24 is Rocket.
Yes. OK, now you're not going to like

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the person I took. You're not going to like that I
took off who I took off OK, I will say I'm going to go ahead
and say this. The person who I took off my
list was Venom. Venom was #24 I took him off my
list for Rocket. And I had to say that because as
soon as I said I took somebody off my list, you were like, OK,
cool. 19 Venom. So I took off Venom.
But #24 is is Rocket. My #23 is Storm.

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OK, I I love. Storm from the animated series
from the 90, The 90s show from X-Men 97 all the way to Halle
Berry, baby. OK.
Oh yeah. My #22 is my first DC character.
It's Aquaman. I got Bert.
I got I got Barnacle Boy too. What's up?
No, it's Aquaman because I really like Adjacent.

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Momoa is my funny bone. Yeah, but he also just looks so
badass and I just love. I don't know, I just.
It just works for me. Jason Momoa as Aquaman just
fucking works for me. It's Fishman.
Am I the only one that seems to think that Jason Momoa no
matter? Like unless he is playing
Aquaman, he just looks like a fucking goober.

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Like he looks like a fucking goober and I think.
This is a goober. Unless he's playing Aquaman and
then he looks like a straight badass.
I just love. It dude, my #21 is Star Lord,
OK? My #20 was it was it was your
number 21. I just had to point that out
because we were so close to having one that was the same.

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I don't think we came out with one that was the same, but we're
so close to this one. My #20 is Raven.
So I was having trouble. So I guess I have more I have, I
have more DC characters on here that I thought I forgot because
I love. This is specifically from the
Teen Titans cartoon when I was achild.
And the comic books, the only comic books I ever read were

(39:56):
Teen Titans comic books. And like they were more like
adult based as well. Yeah.
So love Raven #19 Winter Soldier, love love Bucky,
especially from that movie. #18 this, this probably seems very
low for this character. It's Iron Man.
OK, number. I mean, here's the thing right

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before I keep going on. These are 25 characters in
Marvel alone. There are are over 2000
predominant Marvel characters. Like there are 8000 characters
overall that have names, right? Probably even more now, but
there are over 2000 predominant characters and we're taking 25

(40:38):
heroes in general #18 of fuckingthousands is pretty good #17 is
Ghost Spider also known as Gwen Stacy or Gwen?
Yes. I fell in love with that
character in the latest spider verse movie.
Yeah, Yep. So why did the latest spider
verse? I don't know.
I I really like that across the spider verse movie and that

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character is a big reason why I don't really know how to explain
it. Just I don't know, like I just
love that character. I fell in love with that
character. Like I want to give her a hug.
My #16 is Robin, specifically Dick Grayson and specifically
from the Teen Titans show. OK, I I like, I just really love

(41:22):
that Teen Titans show. It's funny, yes, but it was
mainly because like like that that show in general is like, I
don't know, it was my introduction to like heartfelt
story, I guess. Yeah, there are there are
episodes that make me want to cry.
Dude, the. The animation style in that show
is also just fucking on point. Yes.

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My #15 is Rogue OK from specifically the cartoon, the
90s cartoon and X-Men 97. OK, that is I'm joking #14 is
very, very what's the word appropriate?
Because it's Gambit, OK, also from the cartoon and Chaney

(42:05):
Tatum. Well, about the mega name of it
#13 is Deadpool #14 It's not a superhero from Marvel or DC.
It's the only one I have on here.
It's the green power Ranger. Love Tommy Oliver, bro.
Also the white Ranger, technically.
But yeah, I love just Tommy Oliver #11 and we're going to,

(42:27):
there's a couple on this on thisfrom 11 up.
That is a little bit recency bias.
Punisher, OK Specifically Jon Bernthal.
OK, I have seen other Punisher movies.
I have seen Thomas Jane. Is that the one where he fights
Kevin Nash? Yeah, yeah, I have seen that one
and I've seen breakdowns of the other ones.
But Jon Bernthal is Punisher to me for sure.
And I think that actor is just the best actor of all those

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actors that's ever played them #10 is White Widow also recency
bias? White Widow is the sister of
Black Widow. It is Yelena from, from the
Black Widow movie, from the Hawkeye show, and most recently
from Thunderbolts. And like, I think it was
Thunderbolts that really pushed over the edge that she, she
would not have been on this listwithout that movie.

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And she cracked top ten because of it.
And specifically because of that, that, that performance
that Florence PU gives #9 it's Doctor Strange.
Now, here's the thing. Doctor Strange in that first
movie don't really care about Yeah, Doctor Strange Infinity
War goes fucking hard. You know, I didn't even think

(43:31):
about Doctor Strange when putting my.
Legs it's specifically, I don't know what it is.
It's like the moment fan like Thanos shows up on Titan and
then they have that conversationbefore the fighting starts.
Yeah and then he just stands up and goes I think you'll find our
world equal to yours. And it's like, oh, like I got
chills. And then there's the whole when

(43:52):
they they fail to get the gauntlet off.
So not everybody's just got to try to one V1 this guy.
And then you get that fight scene between Doctor frames and
Thanos and it's fucking epic. I don't know, just that scene
alone is just like puts Doctor Strange out for me.
Also Multiverse of Madness was fun #8 this is a shocker
probably to a lot of people. It's Nebula.

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I loved Nebula in in game specifically like the scenes
between her and Tony Stark in the beginning and just her when
she goes back to get this down and her and and guardians volume
3 specifically the performance she gives like this.
I don't even want to try to describe it but just go back and

(44:36):
watch Guardians Galaxy Guardiansof the Galaxy volume 3 and just
watch for nebula #7 it's the final non Marvel character on
this list is Batman. And here's the thing it's not
from any of the Movies OK? It is specifically from the
games. I love all the Arkham games.

(44:58):
OK, I I love Batman, don't care about Batman from any of the
cartoons. I like the movies but they're
nothing groundbreaking to me except for The Dark Knight.
But could be argued that like I do like Christian Bells Batman
but it could be argued that movie so great because of the
Joker. Hey, you know what Tommy?
I just had a bright idea. What if next week we hopped on

(45:21):
Gotham Nights together and we did the podcast live playing
Gotham Nights? I have Gotham Nights, I played
it once and I didn't really likeit that much, but I will play it
with you online and we could do the podcast like that.
Maybe not next episode, but let's plan an episode.
Let's do that. Yeah, I'm down.
Wait, wait, let let us know whatyou guys think about that

(45:43):
because because I'm I'm interested to see if anybody
else would be down for like a live stream podcast set.
Yes, yes. Number six, this is very
recently biased. It's Daredevil.
OK, I recently watched all the all all all all of it.
I watched all of it. Born again was fucking awesome.

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It did it. Just Charlie Cox's performance
is that it's crazy. All right.
We're into the top five, OK. We're in it, yes, All right. #5
is the Hulk. And I told you, I told you
beforehand, up until Infinity War, the Hulk was my favorite
character. Right.
And then he got his Dick pushed in by Thanos, and we have not

(46:28):
seen that Hulk since, right? And it's depressing.
We are in 2025, it's been 7 years and my boy has not come
back to me. It's very upsetting.
But still I love the Hulk #4 is Blade.
Yes. Much higher on my list than you
want to share. Yes.

(46:49):
Oh dude, the the The Blade moviesaved Marvel from bankruptcy
back in the day. I believe that.
Wesley Styles was my favorite actor for a long time too.
So love those movies #3 is Wolverine.
It's just so consistent how goodthat character is across the

(47:10):
board. Movies, comics and show.
That character is amazing through and through.
Yeah, my number two, number number one and two were very
hard for me. My number 2 is Thor.
OK, because Thor post Infinity War pre in game was #1 and it's

(47:32):
specifically because of his character.
It's see here's the thing. A lot of these characters are
really like in certain movies because of I, I, I feel like
it's a director's thing. Could.
I don't know if it's a characterthing or an actor thing, but
like the Russo brothers directing Thor and Doctor
Strange, I love way more than I that I do those characters in
their own movies. OK.

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Because everyone loves Thor riding around.
Sure, it's a good movie, but I'mnot super into it.
I love the Sirius Thor. Yeah, I'm not into comic Thor.
Not like I, I could be like so serious that it's funny.
Like, because that's kind of what it is, Infinity War.
But the, the scene where he shows up in Wakanda and he's
fucking hits the hole bringing me Thanos line.

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That scene hit me so much that Igot fucking Stormbreaker
tattooed on me. Like that's how much that
fucking shit hit me. My number one, it should
probably not be a surprise if you've been paying attention at
all. It's Spider Man.
Listen, there's not a bad version of Spider Man anywhere
that you look. There's not a bad show.

(48:34):
There's not a bad game. There's not a bad.
Movie. Buddy, buddy, even if there even
if there is a bad movie per SE, there's not a bad Spider Man
himself. I'm sure if you searched pornhub
hard enough you can. Find What do you mean?
Those are the best ones. You thought I was saying this
because I Toby or Andrew? Hell no.

(48:56):
I'm saying this because I'm DickMcGuire.
No dude, fuck, it's fucking spider man.
It's got to be spider man, bro. Like consistently that fucking
character hits every time. Tobey Maguire goat shit, not
literal goat shit like he's he'sthe GOAT.
Andrew Garfield, the best, probably Peter Parker ever.
Tom Holland fucking killing it through and through and he just

(49:19):
gets fucking better. Think it's fucking better yeah
the spider man games on PlayStation, hard as fuck.
Hard as old and new Yeah, awesome.
You ever watched a a spider man show that you didn't like?
I haven't. I'm just just, I'm just seeing,
but it is maybe the. Spider Man and friends.
Oh, the kids one. Yeah, maybe that one.

(49:42):
Lady Ghost Spider. That's really it.
One word. Fucking what's that?
What's that rock band that does the intro for us?
I have no clue what's. That one of the more famous rock
bands, Audra listen or shit ducknoises party killers to them all
the time. But John, dude, it's fucking

(50:02):
spider man. It's fucking spider man bro.
It's got to be spider man bro, bro.
Like I can watch No Way Home right now, four years later and
still get chills. I watched No Way Home a couple
months ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.
I get, it's not even that I enjoy it, it's like I get like
goosebumps. Like I've watched that movie

(50:22):
double digits Times Now. I'm I'm a weird person where I
don't like watching the same movie in close proximity because
like I just don't, I'm not like that with movies, right?
Unless they are just phenomenal.Like I like I said with sinners
earlier, like I wanted to watch that one almost immediately
after again. So I won't do it out of the

(50:43):
theater like what you're saying,close proximity, yeah.
But I can watch a movie in theaters multiple times.
I don't know that I ever have. I I do right now, I probably the
the 2014 Ninja Turtles movie probably holds that record.
I think I've watched it like 7 times in the theater.
Oh. I take them back.
I've I've watched the Harry Potter films multiple times in

(51:03):
the theaters. OK.
Yeah, what could he have been onthis list?
Harry Potter, he's not a superhero.
You're right. He's a cock.
Oh, no. But yeah.
But those are our lists. Yes, Those are our lists, yes.
Tell us in the comments who had the better list, who had it or?
If you have any superheroes thatmaybe we forgot you think belong

(51:24):
on a top 25 list, Yeah. Fucking honorable mentions, yes.
Forgot. So some audible mentions of
mine. Beast Boy and Starfire.
Yeah, I'm not going to say Cyborg.
Cyborg was never that guy for me, yeah.
I had the same thought. Nightcrawler was definitely.
Scarlet Witch was one that I heavily debated putting on this
list. OK, like, I like, she was one

(51:45):
that I was contemplating from 10all the way down to 25.
Oh shit. Yeah.
And then she just couldn't make the cut.
Like I said, Venom was on my list at one point.
Took him off there. There are a lot.
The Ninja Turtles. Like I said, Captain America did
not make my list but Winter Soldier did so I don't know,

(52:06):
maybe it's just because I'm not into the Boy Scout aspect of it.
But but but but again, Captain America in Infinity War and end
game, I love him to death. I did so it.
Maybe I love the Russo bird. Maybe that's who should be #1 on
this list is the Russo. Brothers the Russo brothers.
Yeah, that's we should do a top 25 villains.
Top 25 villains, Yeah, OK, yeah,yeah.

(52:28):
Top 25 villains, yeah, absolutely.
But I'm down for that one. 100% previously on Wrestling
Survivor. The rich get poorer and Dalton
gets grimier. OK, I don't know, I was off the

(52:49):
spot. Brett the Scordy get scordier.
Scordy get scornier. Yeah, on the previous episode of
Wrestling Survivor, it was literally just a continuation.
It felt like ever since the theywere able to vote out Justin
Lee, it was kind of just like, all right, we're going to pick
off that whole group. Dalton Gray 1 immunity and then

(53:11):
they just picked off the next bridge guy, Alex world.
He was gone. See you later, sirenara.
Which brings us to the final seven.
These 7 remaining contestants. That's a one in seven chance of
getting the bullshit basket. Yes, we have Stormy Renee, we
have Dalton Gray, we have that guy Red Chambers, we have Jacob

(53:33):
Lindsay, we have Eddie Lebone, we have Taylor Manning and we
have Derek James. We got 7 guys left.
We're getting down to the nitty gritty.
They're they're they're like in that 30 days plus Mark Mark
where they've been on this island.
They're fucking sick of this shit.
How do you think everybody's spanking on?
How do you think everybody's faring on a survival aspect?

(53:56):
Because obviously there's been alot of game going on, a lot of
strategic, a lot of alliances and and tribe alliances and
backstabbings, yes. How are they doing from a
survival aspect? Who is dying of hunger right
now? Eddie's got to be dying.
Eddie is. So how is Eddie made it?
Shout out to Eddie Levon bro I. Genuinely think he's just making

(54:18):
it on smiles. Yeah, like he's just smiling his
way through. She has been depressed since day
nine, and he is somehow still onthis.
She's still in this. He's been to key vote several
times as well. Yeah.
Yeah. We are currently walking back
home, by the way. So that's why you're hearing
more and more cars if you hear them.
But men. OK.

(54:39):
So there is still a strong alliance.
Yep. Stormy Renee, Eddie Lavonne,
Derek James, Tatum Manning, Red Chambers.
Dalton kind of swapped over and it worked out for him once.
Yeah. And now he's on the outs.
Same with kind of Jacob. Jacob has been gunning for
Tatum. Yes, for like a week.
Strike now. So we're going to just jump

(55:02):
right into immunity. No reward again this week.
They're surviving on their own right now.
There's no rewards right now. Yeah, not since that yacht.
So we're going to jump right into immunity.
Here's the deal. We have, let's say like a 30
foot pole, seven of them. Each contesting gets their own
pole. They all have a ladder.

(55:24):
What they ought to do is climb the ladder and then just hug
this pole. There are three sections about,
you know, 10 feet apart, basically, OK, where there's
like a rope, there's not like a foothold, but there is a little
bit of rope and it's tied aroundthe poles that they can kind of
try to stand on, hook themselveson.
Doesn't really work that well. OK, once all 7 contestants go up

(55:47):
and grab their pole, the laddersare removed and it says who can
fucking hold on to this pole without falling off instantly?
And he's gone. Yeah, he's, he's out.
He he probably, I probably should have rolled to see if he
fucking breaks an ankle in the way down.
But we're not going to do that. We're going to give him the
benefit of the doubt. Just say he slides down and gets

(56:08):
a lot of splinters. Yeah.
On this wooden pole. So Eddie's gone.
He's not holding on to this polefor that long.
No way. Who's standing out to you right
now? You got Stormy, Derek.
Jacob. Lindsay's probably not holding
on for very long. Either no, probably not.
Unfortunate for him. Yeah.
So we got Stormy Derek Tatum red.
And Dalton, I think Derek's probably got a pretty good

(56:30):
stronghold. Oh yeah, he's got, he's got
jacked arms. Yeah, dude.
Dude's. Got next level.
Arms and he's got he doesn't have like a massive chest get in
the way. Either no, no, he can just hang.
He can just hang on there. Dalton's a little spider monkey.
Yep. I think Storm is probably a
strong contender. She's.
Got strong legs, yeah. So she can she can squeeze with
those thighs and yeah, but the second those thighs go, I think

(56:51):
she's gone. Yep.
I don't think she, I don't thinkshe's got great grip strength.
Nope, probably not. Jacob's not lasting.
Eddie's gone. Jacob's gone, I think.
I think Stormy might be the nextto go.
I think she's got great leg strength, but I think it's going

(57:12):
to give out slightly. Yeah.
And once she starts to slide, I don't think there's no stopping.
No, because like. I don't think she can stop on
the other rope sections of the way down.
I think it's just once she starts to go, it's a straight
shot. Down, well, not to mention like
as she slides down, she's going to be getting splinters in her.
Legs. Yeah.
So I think she kind of like, starts to slide and it just kind
of gives up and falls off. Yeah.
So Dalton, Derek, Tatum and Red.I think Tatum's next, I think.

(57:37):
Tatum's next to go as well. Yeah.
I think this comes down to Dalton and Derek.
I think so, too. I don't think Red holds on for
that long. I think Red can survive a long
time on each section. Yeah, but he's consistently
like, he's like, further down. I think him and Tatum both get
to a point where they're hovering like maybe 5 feet above
the ground. Yeah.

(57:58):
And they're just holding on for dear life and it's just not
working out. I think it comes down to Derek
and Tatum, who are still probably at the top of this
pole, too. Holding on, Derek.
And Dalton? Yeah, that's what I meant.
Yeah, that's what I said. You said you definitely said
Tate. You can't, you can't prove that.
It's not like you have to recordproof or anything.
Nope. I think it's come with a Derek
and and and Dalton. There's no, there's no

(58:20):
temptations, by the way, on this.
Yeah, it's just who it's it's immunity.
It's just for immunity bread. Like it's what?
I don't know if I could pick between these guys because I
feel like like, like Dalton doesn't have as much size as
Derek, so he's not holding on with as much weight, but he's

(58:41):
not as strong as Derek is either.
No so in it and all. He mentally wants this more.
In all honesty, I think Derek has it in physical stature.
Yeah. But Dalton is really holding on
to the fact that he is on the outs right now.
He is on the outs. Derek also hasn't had any weed

(59:02):
right in a while now, right? And he's kind of losing his shit
here. I I think this challenge goes
for hours. Yeah.
Like 3 to 4 hours there. Yeah, I think eventually, Derek,
just as like, I'm not on the chopping block tonight, so I
don't really need this as much, right.

(59:23):
And I think Dalton wins this immunity.
And Derek, just let's. Go.
I think Derek just kind of let'sgo and Dalton saves his own ass
the second. Week in a row, Yes, He, he,
he's. Pulled two weeks out, two weeks
out on the road, and he's not like any sort of challenge beast
or anything. No, he's a.
He's a grimy one, but he's a slippery.
One, he's a grimy, slippery little bastard.
Dalton Gray. Yes.
Wins immunity for the second week in a row.

(59:47):
Crazy. Crazy we go back to camp.
How are things like? I don't.
Know that anybody's really talking to each other, I think.
We do have a five man alliance, yeah.
Jacob was kind of on the outs. Does Red OK?
What is Jacob's move? Because Jacob and Red are still
cool. Right.

(01:00:08):
He just wants to hate him out. What is Jacob's play here?
I think he's just kind of watching from afar right now,
OK? Like he's not really making a
whole lot of moves. He's just kind of pondering his
next move. But what is his next move?
Because he's kind of on the chopping block right now because
we have a 5 minute alliance. Yeah, Dalton's immune.

(01:00:29):
Yeah, it leaves Jacob Lindsby. It does leave Jacob, so he's got
to act. He's got to go to red somehow.
Red is his only link because he was a part of the Trot.
He was a part of the alliance that was getting out.
But we people, do you think he'slike in the house?
Maybe he. Goes to Red and he's kind of
pleaded like hey man, like look around like they're about to

(01:00:51):
fucking get me. Like we we got to band together
numbers, we got to get as many people to make sure I don't go
home, blah blah blah blah. And then he lets Red talk to
Tatum and then they talk to Dalton because they realize
Dalton's on the out just to get numbers.
But is it? Is Red going for it though?
Because he's they've been butting heads.

(01:01:13):
Like, they're still cool, but they've been butting heads over
Tatum and the apples. Yeah.
Can't forget about the apples. Yeah, but they're not like, it's
not like they completely distrust Jacob.
I know Tatum completely distrustJacob.
Tatum probably does completely distrust him.
Tatum's probably super hesitant about the whole thing.
Oh yeah. As a matter of fact, I could

(01:01:34):
even hear Tatum being like, no, fuck him, let him.
Let him vote him out. Yeah.
So yeah. This is a tough one for Jacob,
man. This is this will be a tough
one. Yeah, because here's the thing.
He could convince Red to not vote him out, but who would Red
have to vote for at that point? Because he's in an alliance with

(01:01:56):
everybody else. Yeah.
So that's a hard sell. Yeah.
Like, realistically, who could he get him to vote for?
And would it even make a difference?
Because you can get you can get Dalton and Jacob.

(01:02:17):
And if they can convince right to vote for somebody else, who
are they going to like? They would need still need one
more person. And I don't think Tatum is going
to vote for anybody whose name isn't Jacob.
Yeah, no, Tatum and Stormy. Stormy, Derek and Eddie are
tight. Yeah.
Because it was those three versus the world at one point,
right? So unfortunately I think this

(01:02:41):
just I think they just take out Jacob.
And they take out Jacob. I think it just, I think he
scrambles, he tries, he tries, maybe, maybe, maybe they
convince them to try to vote forEddie.
Redd takes his argument to Tatumand he's like, that guy's been a
swing vote this whole time. He's been a wild card.
We kind of got to get him out ofhere and it just doesn't work.

(01:03:03):
I think he's 3 on Eddie and fouron Jacob.
Jacob's gone just like that. You think on the way out he's
like, fine, fuck it, I ate the apples.
Yeah, he's like, those apples were great.
He's finally admitting. It or does he try to just
double? Down and they're like so I
didn't. I voted me out and you still got
the guy that ate all those apples.

(01:03:25):
I think he's like, Nah, all right, I ate the apples.
Guys. Fucking double s.
Down on her. Which one?
Does he double down or does he just admit I'll let you decide?
I'm not letting Jacob decide though when he fucking calls me
again tomorrow night. He definitely, he he definitely

(01:03:45):
admits he's like, fine, fuck it,I ate the apples.
Yeah, those apples were fucking good.
And you know who told me to do it was Eddie.
And I'm doing. He's like, apples are fucking
good, tastes pussy, and he's just like, wait.
I don't think Jacob is fucking leaves like that.
Listen, we all know Jacob Lindsey doesn't know what pussy
tastes the hunger. No, I'm joking.
I love you, Jacob. I think that does it, bro.

(01:04:09):
But we're down to the final six.We are.
We're down to the final six for Survivor, Yes, Holy shit, Dalton
Gray is on the outs right now. Red Chambers, I think, is going
to start playing for himself, I think.
So I think he's going to start really putting some pieces
together. I think Derek, Stormy and Eddie
are still going to be tight. Yep.

(01:04:30):
I think they're having conversations of like, Oh yeah,
it's us and Red in the final four, but then it's us in the
final three, right? So I think Red is going to start
really trying to put some shit together here.
Is it too little, too late, though?
I don't know. I don't know.
We'll have to find out next weekon Wrestling Survivor.
Yeah. So Tommy, where can the people
find you? Oh dude then then your trash

(01:04:50):
cans. Just not, not looking for
anything, just kind of hanging out.
It's chilling. Just wait until your lights go
out. Just making sure you're safe.
I mean, you can find me on social medias at the Tommy Dean
Pro or Tommy Dean 32 or any kindof mixture of those words on any
of the socials. You can get your own self Tommy

(01:05:12):
Dean merch at the Tommy Dean shop.bigcartel.com.
Yeah. Any shows coming?
Up. No, really, nothing really.
I've been, I'll probably be at the Ryder Cup.
I'm not in the Ryder Cup, but I'll probably be at the Ryder
Cup. OK, so whatever that is.
Hell yeah. Yeah.
Well, guys, go check out BizarreUnderground on May 16th at

(01:05:35):
Spaded and Jaded Tattoo in Tulsa, OK.
I'm not saying I'm going to be there, but definitely go check
that out because it's going to be fucking insane.
Absolutely. First underground too.
Yeah, May 18th I will be in Springdale, AR for Diamond State
Wrestling's Clash of Diamonds event.
As always, you can subscribe andfollow me on all social media
that's Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube at I am Wesley

(01:05:58):
Crane. Grab yourself some super sick
merge hoodies, hats, digital downloads.
It's all available at www.imwesleycrane.com And with
all of that being said, I will see you, we will see you we will
see you. Maybe we.
Will see you. Well, where are you, at least?
Well, they'll hear us. You're white.
On the next one. Hey, Wes.
Do you remember the first ever outro line we ever did for this?

(01:06:20):
The first like 1 zip liner. No, actually I don't.
Good, because it's a good time to remind you Chick Nuggets are
back at Taco Bell right now. We're going right now to get
some. Dude, we have to wrestle.
I mean our alter egos have to wrestle.
This is bullshit. This is such bullshit.
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