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June 11, 2025 61 mins

In this brutally honest conversation, serial entrepreneurs Mike & Kass Lazerow join Stephen Scoggins to break down what it really takes to build, scale, and survive business, emotionally, mentally, and financially.

From selling Golf.com and Buddy Media for millions to raising $100M+ in venture capital and still fearing failure, Mike and Kass reveal the hidden costs of success, the role emotional control plays in leadership, and why most founders crash because they ignore one thing: themselves.

You’ll learn:

- The mindset shifts that helped them go from bankruptcy to billion-dollar exits

- How to scale without blowing up your team or culture

- What makes co-founder and couple dynamics actually work

- Why gossip kills companies faster than bad cash flow

- How to stay grounded when success comes fast

Get Their Book: Shoveling $h!t: A Love Story
https://kassandmike.com/the-book

Learn more about Kass and Mike → https://kassandmike.com/

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