Built on Solid Rock Podcast
Built on Solid Rock Podcast is where business, leadership, recruiting, and entrepreneurship come together. Hosted by Shaun Boen and John Chisham, each episode delivers honest conversations, practical insights, and hard-earned lessons on building better businesses, stronger teams, and lasting success. From hiring and leadership to culture, resilience, customer service, and growth, we equip business owners, entrepreneurs, recruiters, and leaders with ideas they can put to work immediately. No corporate fluff. Just real conversations about building businesses and people the right way.
Episodes
Everybody wants something to change. A better job. More money. Better clients. A stronger team. A better boss. More freedom. More opportunity. A better economy. A business that finally takes off.
We are pretty good at identifying what needs to change around us. We are not always as good at asking the harder question: What if the biggest thing that needs to change is me?
In Episode 13 of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast, we tackle a pr...
People don't stay because of free lunches.
They stay because of culture.
Great company cultures aren't built by accident. They're built through trust, leadership, accountability, purpose, and genuinely caring about people.
In Episode 12 of the Built On Solid Rock Podcast, Shaun Boen and John Chisham discuss what it really takes to create a workplace where people want to stay, grow, and do their best work.
Cu...
Leadership Is Lonely
The Weight Nobody Sees
Everyone wants to be the leader.
Few people want the weight that comes with it.
From the outside, leadership often looks glamorous. People see the title, the office, the freedom, the paycheck, or the success. What they don't see are the sleepless nights, the difficult conversations, the financial pressure, or the constant responsibility.
Leadership isn't lonely because people don't su...
Is the American Dream still alive?
As America approaches its 250th birthday, that question matters more than ever.
Manufacturing is growing. Investment is returning. The World Cup was bigger and better than ever. Opportunity is everywhere for those willing to build.
In Episode 10 of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast, Shaun and John tackle a bigger conversation than recruiting. We discuss entrepreneurship, relationships, opportunity, and...
One Bad Shot Won't Kill Your Career
Built on Solid Rock Podcast – Episode 8
Golf is a brutal teacher.
It exposes your mindset faster than almost anything else.
One bad swing can ruin a hole- but it does not have to.
One bad hole can ruin a round. In golf, if you let frustration take over, one bad moment can snowball into a complete collapse.
Business works the same way.
In Episode 8 of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast, Shaun...
Stop Thinking Like an Employee
Built on Solid Rock Podcast – Episode 9
What separates people who build great businesses from those who simply work in them?
It is not talent.
It is not intelligence.
It is not even experience.
More often than not, it comes down to mindset.
In Episode 9 of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast, Shaun and John discuss one of the biggest transitions every entrepreneur, leader, and business...
The Hustle Mindset Without Burnout
Everyone says hustle harder.
Almost no one tells you what that actually means.
And that is why most people burn out instead of breaking through.
In the latest episode of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast, Shaun and John break down what hustle really is, what it is not, and why the people who succeed long term understand the difference between disciplined consistency and chaotic activity.
Because...
AI Can Read Resumes. It Can’t Read People.
Built on Solid Rock Podcast – Episode 5
Artificial Intelligence is everywhere right now.
In recruiting, it’s changing the game—faster searches, automated outreach, resume screening in seconds. What used to take hours now takes minutes.
And that’s a good thing.
But here’s the truth we talk about in Episode 5 of the Built on Solid Rock Podc...
Don’t Hire This Person
Built on Solid Rock Podcast – Episode 6
Bad hires are not a surprise.
They are predictable.
The signs are there. Most companies just miss them. Or worse, ignore them.
In Episode 6, “Don’t Hire This Person,” Shaun and John get direct about what actually leads to bad hires and how to spot the red flags before they cost you.
Because they will cost you.
Time. Money. Momentum. Culture.
An...
Death, Taxes, and Bad Hires
Why the Right Hiring Strategy Changes Everything
There are a few things in business you can count on.
Death.
Taxes.
And if you are not intentional about hiring… bad hires.
In our latest Built on Solid Rock podcast episode, “Death, Taxes, and Bad Hires,” we break down a reality most business owners learn the hard way:
Hiring is not just an HR function.
It is one of the most...
People Over Placements
The Solid Rock Recruiting Philosophy
In an industry obsessed with metrics, spreads, ratios, and revenue per desk, it is easy to forget something simple. Recruiting is about people.
Not placements. Not inventory. Not transactions.
People.
Our latest Built on Solid Rock podcast episode, “People Over Placements,” dives into the philosophy that defines Solid Rock Recruiting: relationship recru...
Built on Solid Rock – Episode 2: Burn the Boats
Episode 2 of Built on Solid Rock tells the story of what happened after the decision was made.
Episode 1 was about conviction: why we left.
Episode 2 is about construction: how we built.
When we stepped away from our former corporate recruiting firm, we didn’t just want freedom. We wanted structure. Not chaos. Not rebellion. Not reaction.
We wanted to build a company by rec...
Built on Solid Rock – Episode 1
The Book of Beginnings
Two top-producing recruiters.
Hundreds of placements.
Millions in fees generated.
So why walk away from a corporate firm?
Because recruiting isn’t just a job. It’s a calling.
In Episode 1 of Built on Solid Rock, we break down:
• The moment we knew we had to leave
• The mindset shift from employee to owner
• What corporate recruiting gets wrong
• W...
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